UT football players forced to stand for EOT, and admonished not to protest it in the future.

[Winehole23]

Didn't see this posted in the club or the college sports forum.


University of Texas athletic officials in October told Longhorn football players they had to remain on the field postgame for “The Eyes of Texas” singalong with fans because donors were upset by athletes (https://www.texastribune.org/2021/03/01/ut-eyes-of-texas-donors-emails/) protesting the game day tradition, two Longhorn football players told The Texas Tribune.


Previously, some student athletes had chosen not to participate after multiple games, as the song had become a flashpoint over the summer — especially for Black student athletes — given the alma mater song’s historical ties to campus minstrel shows.


The football players said athletics officials, in a meeting with the players after the Oklahoma game, referenced emails from donors who said the protests could impact their job prospects after graduating. At least one other player, former defensive back Caden Sterns, made a similar claim in a tweet (https://twitter.com/CSterns_7/status/1366508489929986049?s=20)on Monday but declined to be interviewed.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/03/03/ut-austin-eyes-of-texas-donors/

[Winehole23]

Two observations: UT can get new benefactors. It can also stand the criticism from its own players about the racist history of UT up to this day.

College athletes entertained us for no pay during a pandemic. I think they should be allowed to speak their minds.

[DarrinS]

Progs suck the joy out of everything

[Winehole23]

Progs suck the joy out of everythingDude, I like "I've been working on the railroad" too, but face it, EOT kinda sucks.

Time for a new school tradition, a bunch of early 20th century minstrelsy isn't necessary, it's optional.

[Winehole23]

and secondly, how does other people speaking their minds suck the joy out anything?

[ChumpDumper]

Uppity blacks suck the joy out of everythingFIFY

Say what you mean next time.

I love the fact that the fat old white guys are buying BIG12-4+2 mediocrity for the next 20 years.:tu

[FrostKing]

FIFY

Say what you mean next time.

I love the fact that the fat old white guys are buying BIG12-4+2 mediocrity for the next 20 years.:tu
"white guys" but Black Men


I would never trust you people to teach or coach my white children

[FrostKing]

and secondly, how does other people speaking their minds suck the joy out anything?
People don't want to pay to hear or see their teenaged indoctrinated beliefs.

No money, no football. Back to the ghetto

[pgardn]

Didn't see this posted in the club or the college sports forum.


https://www.texastribune.org/2021/03/03/ut-austin-eyes-of-texas-donors/

I put in the UT recruiting section as I had no idea about the donors.
I think it was deemed too political for the recruiting section and therefore did not get much response.
I probably needed to put in a different sports section so my bad for that.

I had no clue the song had anything to do with what it was traced back to.
Second, UT donors are all over the place; they are very liberal to very conservative. They have one thing in common, they are all rich (and possibly very spoiled). UT is a very politically diverse school, when I was there anyway. ATM is usually much more conservative with the rich donors and kids. Like any big school there are a bunch of guys that break the mold. rjv graduated from ATM with a degree in philosophy and I would definitely put him on the liberal part of the spectrum. He was about the only one who commented on this stuff at ATM and Texas in the recruiting section. He does not comment too much in the political section. Good dude though. Thoughtful.

[Winehole23]

People don't want to pay to hear or see their teenaged indoctrinated beliefs.

No money, no football. Back to the ghettoSo get rid of the national anthem and the flyovers. we don't need politics and indoctrination along with our football.

[Winehole23]

*shut up and let us enjoy* is a demand that someone be silenced. it's bullshit.

[Blake]

"white guys" but Black Men


I would never trust you people to teach or coach my white children

But what about black surgeons?

I'm asking for Wild Cobra

[ChumpDumper]

"white guys" but Black Men


I would never trust you people to teach or coach my white childrenThe white guys are acting like children.

They should grow up and stop pouting about a stupid ass song.

[ChumpDumper]

People don't want to pay to hear or see their teenaged indoctrinated beliefs.Of course they do. They want to hear and see their own teenaged indoctrinated beliefs forced on others under threat of defunding.

[FrostKing]

I put in the UT recruiting section as I had no idea about the donors.
I think it was deemed too political for the recruiting section and therefore did not get much response.
I probably needed to put in a different sports section so my bad for that.

I had no clue the song had anything to do with what it was traced back to.
Second, UT donors are all over the place; they are very liberal to very conservative. They have one thing in common, they are all rich (and possibly very spoiled). UT is a very politically diverse school, when I was there anyway. ATM is usually much more conservative with the rich donors and kids. Like any big school there are a bunch of guys that break the mold. rjv graduated from ATM with a degree in philosophy and I would definitely put him on the liberal part of the spectrum. He was about the only one who commented on this stuff at ATM and Texas in the recruiting section. He does not comment too much in the political section. Good dude though. Thoughtful.
That sub-forum is mostly fan boy chat. Idiolizing jocks.

UT is probably one of the most liberal Universities in that region.

[pgardn]

That sub-forum is mostly fan boy chat. Idiolizing jocks.

UT is probably one of the most liberal Universities in that region.

You have not heard of Rice in Houston.
And if you think the biggest donor, Red McCombs is a liberal, you dont know wtf you are talking about as a Slavic immigrant.
The young Republicans on campus was every bit as large as the young Democrats. And frats and sororities are still a big thing.
You probably need to shut it. It is a diverse school politically.

[FrostKing]

You have not heard of Rice in Houston.
And if you think the biggest donor, Red McCombs is a liberal, you dont know wtf you are talking about as a Slavic immigrant.
So put Rice on that short list.

My buddy voted for Biden recently and he said his brother was radicalized at Austin.

[pgardn]

So put Rice on that short list.

My buddy voted for Biden recently and he said his brother was radicalized at Austin.

Your buddy...
Cool my brother and Cousin and sister were " reactionaried" at UT.

[pgardn]

So put Rice on that short list.

My buddy voted for Biden recently and he said his brother was radicalized at Austin.

Holy shit.
He voted for Biden along with 76,000,000 other radicals?

[FrostKing]

Your buddy...
Cool my brother and Cousin and sister were " reactionaried" at UT.
Haha. Are you an alumn? Why you getting so offended. The entire city is full of California transplants.

[pgardn]

Haha. Are you an alumn? Why you getting so offended. The entire city is full of California transplants.

uhhh yeah... Thats why I can tell you how wrong you are.

That school helped me become a very fortunate man. The science program, both undergraduate and graduate, gave me a route to knowing really good people in biochemistry which led me to take part in a job I really love and find an absolute joy everyday. Can you say this?
I consider going there a huge advantage for the way I get to live.

And I dont live in Austin, I live in San Antonio. I drive there all the time. I still have ties there with the program and my friends who work there.
Yes, Californians have driven up prices... like this does not happen in places all over the country, people move to more advantageous areas for their line of work.

[pgardn]

Im not offended.
You are just horribly wrong.
And I loved Austin and going to school there.
I like San Antonio even more.

[DarrinS]

Austin traffic sucks tho. Or, at least it did pre-covid.

[pgardn]

Austin traffic sucks tho. Or, at least it did pre-covid.

No it still absolutely sucks.
Was there last week. Well I should say Saturday evening on I-35 sucks.
Thats another reason SA is so nice. Except for places along 1604.

[Spurtacular]

Progs suck the joy out of everything

[GAustex]

Before the mid 00s Austin was glorious. It started downhill in the late 90s. Mid 80s on was such a cool town. Small enough with the music and party and outdoor thing.
There is money to be made here now though. My house is turning into gold.

[CosmicCowboy]

Before the mid 00s Austin was glorious. It started downhill in the late 90s. Mid 80s on was such a cool town. Small enough with the music and party and outdoor thing.
There is money to be made here now though. My house is turning into gold.

About the time Armadillo World Headquarters closed is when it started going to shit.

[pgardn]

Yeah.

The younger folks always miss the good old days.

[GAustex]

Saw Charlie Daniels there.
Stevie Ray on Sixth Street for like $7. About 25 feet from me. He is a really good guitar player.

[CosmicCowboy]

It was kind of symbolic that they tore it down to build another freaking office building.

[GAustex]

Liberty Lunch, Club Foot, Two Bitter in San Marcos, Cheatham Street Warehouse, Jorge's.

[GAustex]

Windsurfing on Lake Travis, hooping at Enfield

[GAustex]

my go to day date was Hamilton Pool when you threw a dollar in the box by the walkway down to the pool. That trail down to the Pedernales is sweet. Did some scoring on that trail.

Good old days

[Blake]

So put Rice on that short list.

My buddy voted for Biden recently and he said his brother was radicalized at Austin.

Lol "my buddy" anecdotes

[DarrinS]

No it still absolutely sucks.
Was there last week. Well I should say Saturday evening on I-35 sucks.
Thats another reason SA is so nice. Except for places along 1604.


I don't even bother with 35. I go I10 and then head east from Blanco.

[elbamba1]

I think you mean 281. 281 runs north through Blanco. I-10 heads west.

[DarrinS]

I think you mean 281. 281 runs north through Blanco. I-10 heads west.

Lol. My bad. That's what I meant. :lol

[FrostKing]

uhhh yeah... Thats why I can tell you how wrong you are.

That school helped me become a very fortunate man. The science program, both undergraduate and graduate, gave me a route to knowing really good people in biochemistry which led me to take part in a job I really love and find an absolute joy everyday. Can you say this?
I consider going there a huge advantage for the way I get to live.

And I dont live in Austin, I live in San Antonio. I drive there all the time. I still have ties there with the program and my friends who work there.
Yes, Californians have driven up prices... like this does not happen in places all over the country, people move to more advantageous areas for their line of work.
Glad to hear you enjoyed your time and it made you a better & more successful man. I do not have a negative opinion of UT. My statement was that by and large it is more Left than its rivals in the region. When Texas threatened to leave the Big12 it looked West and not to the SEC.

[Blake]

When Texas threatened to leave the Big12 it looked West and not to the SEC.

:lol the west wanted UT way more than the other way around. Either way it was about football and money, not liberalism

[pgardn]

Liberty Lunch, Club Foot, Two Bitter in San Marcos, Cheatham Street Warehouse, Jorge's.

You sound like my Dad except it was more mid late 70s.
And Im gonna say I have enjoyed the music he has exposed me to and the stories about CLub Foot and Raul's. The place that had a car ram it and they just left it there... right on the drag? The punkers spitting on the audience and the audience flinging round trays at the band.

Good stuff... I do wish I would have seen all that.

[pgardn]

Glad to hear you enjoyed your time and it made you a better & more successful man. I do not have a negative opinion of UT. My statement was that by and large it is more Left than its rivals in the region. When Texas threatened to leave the Big12 it looked West and not to the SEC.

That was mostly due to academic reasons and money.
I do think UT has more in common with Pac 12 schools.
Just my opinion. But it has a hell of a lot of very conservative alumni as well as liberal.
ATM though is definitely more of a deep South Mississippi type school with much better academics, in Science anyways.
ATM has an outstanding Ag program. They have done incredible stuff with plants. Really top notch.

[GAustex]

You sound like my Dad except it was more mid late 70s.
And Im gonna say I have enjoyed the music he has exposed me to and the stories about CLub Foot and Raul's. The place that had a car ram it and they just left it there... right on the drag? The punkers spitting on the audience and the audience flinging round trays at the band.

Good stuff... I do wish I would have seen all that.
I have heard others describe the decade before the 80s was even better. For me it was a halcyon time. Austin is just not the same but it maybe I am older. It seems like there are too many people here now. It was such a cool vibe back in those days.

[DarrinS]

I like the areas surrounding Austin, but I don't really like being in town.

[DarrinS]

Don't get me wrong. I don't enjoy being in downtown SA either. :lol

[koriwhat]

So get rid of the national anthem and the flyovers. we don't need politics and indoctrination along with our football.

How about you just take your pussy pov and get to steppin' buddy? You're the problem, and those just like you, in society tbh.

[pgardn]

I have heard others describe the decade before the 80s was even better. For me it was a halcyon time. Austin is just not the same but it maybe I am older. It seems like there are too many people here now. It was such a cool vibe back in those days.

Well my dad loved it. They got some of the best bands that would completely skip San Antonio. He saw Rush, Pink Floyd, Electric Light Orchestra, and at the end came back for the Talking Heads, The Cars, Fleetwood Mac... on and on. Before some of these were even popular bands. The punk stuff was apparently beyond weird. They slam danced (sounds like a Mosh pit kind of deal). And amongst these he claims there were some really awful punk groups. He also came back for a guy named Joe kIng Carasco who played what sounded like roller skating music to me.

And I still like it but the crowded roadways (especially North) and the prices are definitely difficult. I like the fact there are still a bunch of non restaurant chains that have some really good food. I got some great food on Saturday from some place my friends ordered from. Had sea weed and all kinds of wierd vegees with some raw fish and Chicken and these peppers, it was awesome but 20 bucks a pop.

[koriwhat]

I got some great food on Saturday from some place my friends ordered from. Had sea weed and all kinds of wierd vegees with some raw fish and Chicken and these peppers, it was awesome but 20 bucks a pop.

Sounds good! :tu

[GAustex]

Well my dad loved it. They got some of the best bands that would completely skip San Antonio. He saw Rush, Pink Floyd, Electric Light Orchestra, and at the end came back for the Talking Heads, The Cars, Fleetwood Mac... on and on. Before some of these were even popular bands. The punk stuff was apparently beyond weird. They slam danced (sounds like a Mosh pit kind of deal). And amongst these he claims there were some really awful punk groups. He also came back for a guy named Joe kIng Carasco who played what sounded like roller skating music to me.

And I still like it but the crowded roadways (especially North) and the prices are definitely difficult. I like the fact there are still a bunch of non restaurant chains that have some really good food. I got some great food on Saturday from some place my friends ordered from. Had sea weed and all kinds of wierd vegees with some raw fish and Chicken and these peppers, it was awesome but 20 bucks a pop.
Joe kIng Carasco "Its a Party Party Weekend" Saw him numerous time at Club Foot

[pgardn]

Joe kIng Carasco "Its a Party Party Weekend" Saw him numerous time at Club Foot

Oh crud so he lasted well into the 80s.
And I believe there is some sort of organ in that band that makes it sound like roller skating music.

Club foot... Thats a good name. Apparently there was a lot of cracking of some sort of nitrogen vials to give people a high at that place. And he said there was a lot of hair pulling by girls dancing and what looked like a bunch of dead people lying in some sort of alley way next to that club as they were very wasted.

[GAustex]

Oh crud so he lasted well into the 80s.
And I believe there is some sort of organ in that band that makes it sound like roller skating music.

Club foot... Thats a good name. Apparently there was a lot of cracking of some sort of nitrogen vials to give people a high at that place. And he said there was a lot of hair pulling by girls dancing and what looked like a bunch of dead people lying in some sort of alley way next to that club as they were very wasted.
Whippets were what they were called. Tried a few but not my style. I look back fondly. Lots of good times. I had to get a job and it slowly ended. Hey ho lets go!
Uranium Savages were a blast fun time band.
Talking Heads, The Cars, Fleetwood Mac-I saw all those big name bands.

[pgardn]

Sounds good! :tu

was very good
stuffed myself.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

and secondly, how does other people speaking their minds suck the joy out anything?

Because the only joy Darrin gives shit about is his own.

[pgardn]

For those who are still interested:

got sent this

http://app.econnect.utexas.edu/e/es.aspx?s=1740541080&e=298741&elqTrackId=f0d6624887924d1e9a4f4b03108dd7d5&elq=d2ebb62548db4bdb8927a4d3fdc51c2f&elqaid=21810&elqat=1

[Winehole23]

Translation: UT will meet and listen to the concerns of the NAACP and the Texas Black Caucus before declining politely to change a single thing.

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