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Winehole23
03-13-2021, 11:47 AM
Manchin chairs the Energy Committee.

Will brief colleagues on "climate facts", warns agains nuking the filibuster.



"I'm not going to do it through reconciliation," which requires only a simple majority, like the COVID stimulus, Manchin said. "I am not going to get on a bill that cuts them out completely before we start trying."
Asked if he believes it's possible to get 10 Republicans on the infrastructure package, which could yield the 60 votes needed under normal Senate rules, Manchin said: "I sure do."


Manchin said the infrastructure bill can be big — as much as $4 trillion — as long as it's paid for with tax increases. He said he'll start his bargaining by requiring the package be 100% paid for.


Manchin said that with all the debt we're piling up, he's worried about "a tremendous deep recession that could lead into a depression if we're not careful. ... We're just setting ourselves up."
He talked up an array of tax increases, including raising the corporate tax rate from the current 21% to 25% "at least," and repealing "a lot of" the Trump tax cuts for the wealthy.

https://www.axios.com/joe-manchin-infrastructure-bill-c8408e99-17f3-4477-b5df-8e3d537c0bd9.html

Adam Lambert
03-13-2021, 11:58 AM
Manchin continues to operate under the delusionally utopian assumption that Republicans will negotiate in good faith.

Good luck to him.

Winehole23
03-13-2021, 11:59 AM
Manchin continues to operate under the delusionally utopian assumption that Republicans will negotiate in good faith.

Good luck to him.Gotta think this is a front. Can he really be that dumb?

Winehole23
03-13-2021, 12:00 PM
On Thursday, a bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation aiming to help the U.S. government develop more technology partnerships with allies to counter China’s rise in artificial intelligence, 5G, quantum computing and other areas.


The bill, led by Virginia Democratic Senator Mark Warner, a former technology entrepreneur, would create a new interagency office within the State Department focusing on coordinating tech strategies with other democratic nations. It would also create a $5 billion fund supporting research projects between government and private companies.

Winehole23
03-13-2021, 12:05 PM
Biden's EO on supply chains: not shy.

Some of the mandates go out one year, this EO could become a recurring theme.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/02/24/executive-order-on-americas-supply-chains/

Adam Lambert
03-13-2021, 12:05 PM
Gotta think this is a front. Can he really be that dumb?

Dumb like a fox, maybe. Being the Democrat incumbent in a GOP state requires one to pretend he tried to work with Republicans.

Winehole23
03-13-2021, 12:07 PM
subtext: economic independence/dominance, particularly wrt the PRC.

ducks
03-13-2021, 01:03 PM
Trumps bill was better assholes did not pass it

Winehole23
03-13-2021, 01:04 PM
Trumps bill was better assholes did not pass it:cry

Reck
03-13-2021, 01:04 PM
Manchin continues to operate under the delusionally utopian assumption that Republicans will negotiate in good faith.

Good luck to him.

He can probably take Susan and Murkowski along. You only need 1 after all.

Republicans will probably listen to Manchin more since they consider him a republican lite too.

ChumpDumper
03-13-2021, 03:29 PM
Trumps bill was better assholes did not pass itlink to his bill?

Reck
03-13-2021, 03:30 PM
link to his bill?

He'll post it in 2 weeks.

ducks
03-13-2021, 06:48 PM
link to his bill?

https://politicalwire.com/2020/06/16/trump-preparing-1-trillion-infrastructure-bill/

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/490353-trump-backs-infrastructure-bill-as-next-phase-of-coronavirus-relief

Trump pushes $2 trillion infrastructure package in next coronavirus bill
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pushes-dollar2-trillion-infrastructure-package-in-next-coronavirus-bill/ar-BB11YImc

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5efcd2a9c5b612083c5614bf

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/31/trump-calls-big-and-bold-2-trillion-infrastructure/

ducks
03-13-2021, 06:49 PM
link to his bill?

DuckDuckGo.com
Use it fool

ChumpDumper
03-13-2021, 06:52 PM
https://politicalwire.com/2020/06/16/trump-preparing-1-trillion-infrastructure-bill/

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/490353-trump-backs-infrastructure-bill-as-next-phase-of-coronavirus-relief

Trump pushes $2 trillion infrastructure package in next coronavirus bill
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-pushes-dollar2-trillion-infrastructure-package-in-next-coronavirus-bill/ar-BB11YImc

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5efcd2a9c5b612083c5614bf

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/31/trump-calls-big-and-bold-2-trillion-infrastructure/

So no actual bill.:tu

ducks
03-13-2021, 06:53 PM
You read those articles that fast
Bull fucking shit

Ef-man
03-13-2021, 06:55 PM
“Despite all of Trump’s bluster about an infrastructure bill, this appears to be one piece of legislation he has no intention of signing — not that he will ever be forced to make the choice.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Wednesday morning that the Senate wouldn’t be taking up the measure.”

No he did not. Learn to read fool.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/house-infrastructure-bill_n_5efcd2a9c5b612083c5614bf

ChumpDumper
03-13-2021, 06:55 PM
You read those articles that fast
Bull fucking shitThey weren't long articles tbh.

There was no Trump bill in any of them.

There was the bill the Democrats passed last summer -- that's it.

CosmicCowboy
03-14-2021, 04:58 PM
You aren't getting 4 trillion out of tax increases without hitting the middle class too.

boutons_deux
03-14-2021, 05:06 PM
Hey Joe M

Dems aren't "cutting out Repugs", the Repugs cut themselves out, OBSTRUCT in pure, smash-mouth, kick-head bad faith, everything Dem, for years.

Can this mofo Manchin be that dumb? or is somebody bribing him to be that "dumb"?

CosmicCowboy
03-14-2021, 05:16 PM
Look at what 1.9 trillion did to the bond market last couple of weeks. Add another 4 trillion and suddenly interest rates become relevant in the national debt discussion.

spurraider21
03-14-2021, 05:26 PM
is it finally infrastructure week?

Winehole23
03-14-2021, 05:30 PM
Look at what 1.9 trillion did to the bond market last couple of weeks. Add another 4 trillion and suddenly interest rates become relevant in the national debt discussion.You been prognosticating a spending led blowup for 13 years straight. Well, not straight, Only whEN THERE'S A dEMOCRAT IN THE wHITE hOUSE.

Maybe someday you'll be right!

Not gonna lie, this isn't easy to understand. Adam Tooze wrote this thing about the bond market. Maybe some financial pros on the board can do an explainer on it, it's beyond my competence, tbh. Lotta noise about the SLR exemption.



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https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/chartbook-newsletter-16

CosmicCowboy
03-14-2021, 05:59 PM
I have always said deficits are going to matter at some point no matter who was president. I can support low taxes AND responsible deficits.

Winehole23
03-14-2021, 06:05 PM
I have always said deficits are going to matter at some point no matter who was president. I can support low taxes AND responsible deficits.You were totally silent on deficits the last four years, have you been sleeping the whole time?

SnakeBoy
03-14-2021, 06:11 PM
Biden economic plan

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o6nUMRm46ceoDRAd2/giphy.gif

SnakeBoy
03-14-2021, 06:12 PM
Not that I'm opposed. MOAR the better for me.

CosmicCowboy
03-14-2021, 06:21 PM
You were totally silent on deficits the last four years, have you been sleeping the whole time?

Started the wine early today? I wasn't silent about deficits the last four years. Based on your posts in here I'll bet you are a mean damn drunk.

Winehole23
03-14-2021, 06:29 PM
Started the wine early today? I wasn't silent about deficits the last four years. Based on your posts in here I'll bet you are a mean damn drunk.Not a drop.

You have been utterly silent on deficits the last four years.

Winehole23
03-14-2021, 06:37 PM
Not that I'm opposed. MOAR the better for me.Presumably, economic growth will be good for most people.

Winehole23
03-14-2021, 07:53 PM
Biden economic plan

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o6nUMRm46ceoDRAd2/giphy.gif

1371258367847579648

Winehole23
03-14-2021, 07:56 PM
If the Goldman Sach GDP estimate is met or exceeded for the next ee years, that would be more robust growth than any year during *Trump's America*

SnakeBoy
03-14-2021, 08:51 PM
If the Goldman Sach GDP estimate is met or exceeded for the next ee years, that would be more robust growth than any year during *Trump's America*

Sweet!

Pump it up. MOAR the better for me.

CosmicCowboy
03-14-2021, 09:48 PM
Sweet!

Pump it up. MOAR the better for me.

I will be making bank on it too. Since my kids will inherit millions they thank you young democrats too. How will your kids do?

Winehole23
03-14-2021, 10:09 PM
I thought it was a good idea to load the money bazookas last year, don't you?


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwfSTPBWEAA0SAD?format=png&name=large

SnakeBoy
03-14-2021, 10:25 PM
I will be making bank on it too. Since my kids will inherit millions they thank you young democrats too. How will your kids do?

You as drunk as whinehole?

Winehole23
03-14-2021, 10:37 PM
SnakeBoy, helpless to make his own argument, resorts to prosonomasia (http://rhetoric.byu.edu/Figures/P/prosonomasia.htm).

ChumpDumper
03-15-2021, 03:03 AM
:lmao Trumptards trying to act like they wanted Biden's success all along.

Winehole23
03-15-2021, 03:58 AM
:lmao Trumptards trying to act like they wanted Biden's success all along.Or, characterizing that success as a "bad thing" they're going to get rich off of.

Reck
03-15-2021, 05:08 PM
Biden economic plan

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o6nUMRm46ceoDRAd2/giphy.gif


Not that I'm opposed. MOAR the better for me.


Sweet!

Pump it up. MOAR the better for me.


You as drunk as whinehole?

:lol melting down all over page 2.

ducks
03-15-2021, 08:20 PM
I wanted this passed over the first stimulus bill

Winehole23
03-15-2021, 08:26 PM
I wanted this passed over the first stimulus billIt's not an either/or, we can do both.

spurraider21
03-15-2021, 08:28 PM
I will be making bank on it too. Since my kids will inherit millions they thank you young democrats too. How will your kids do?
lol big-timing as usual

Winehole23
03-18-2021, 08:41 AM
House Republicans overcome their own scruple against earmarks.


Republicans in the US House of Representatives on Wednesday (Mar 17) voted to join Democrats in ending their self-imposed ban on earmarks and resume the controversial practice of allowing lawmakers to add pet projects to spending bills.https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/us-house-republicans-end-earmarks-ban-ahead-of-biden-s-14430708

Winehole23
05-29-2021, 11:47 PM
Texas prepares the ground

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RandomGuy
06-01-2021, 10:49 AM
You as drunk as whinehole?

Interesting metaplasm.

RandomGuy
06-01-2021, 10:51 AM
I wasn't silent about deficits the last four years.

You were silent, as far as I remember.

Feel free to demonstrate your concern by posting a link to your MOST urgent statement, where you expressed your strongest opinion.

(edit)


vBulletin Message
Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

I couldn't find any thing you really said, and don't remember you saying anything. Didn't look to hard, because it isn't my claim to prove, it's yours. Feel free to try.

Until then I call bullshit. Your double standards are obvious to everybody but you. :lol

Winehole23
07-22-2021, 09:26 AM
The same folks who hollowed out health care and are ripping off public pensions for billions, want more control over public utilities.

Biden's infrastructure bill could help them get it.

1418199163838160899 (https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1418199163838160899?s=20)

leemajors
07-22-2021, 10:38 AM
The same folks who hollowed out health care and are ripping off public pensions for billions, want more control over public utilities.

Biden's infrastructure bill could help them get it.

1418199163838160899 (https://twitter.com/ddayen/status/1418199163838160899?s=20)

gross

RandomGuy
07-22-2021, 12:22 PM
Biden economic plan

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3o6nUMRm46ceoDRAd2/giphy.gif

:cry Democrats are better at running the economy :cry

Cry harder, fashie.