View Full Version : Did LaMarcus Aldridge quit on the Spurs?
MultiTroll
03-22-2021, 11:22 PM
Is there some reason he can't be helping out these past 3-4 weeks with his $24 million salary still being paid?
While the cutesy "mutually agreed" PR spin was given by woke Pop, it's got to be true that this was LMA prompting 100% right?
Some reason he can't continue to play productive spot minutes and actually up his value?
td4mvp2k
03-22-2021, 11:23 PM
he's been collecting checks all season sitting on his ***
Brazil
03-22-2021, 11:24 PM
Avoiding injury while being negotiated to another team.. makes actually a lot of sense for film and the Spurs
MultiTroll
03-22-2021, 11:33 PM
Avoiding injury while being negotiated to another team.. makes actually a lot of sense for film and the Spurs
So in games like tonight's vs the Hornets, where LMAs offense could fit in very nicely and contribute to a win thus playoff picture?
So instead of risking injury he can be bought out and Spurs get nothing in return?
BackHome
03-22-2021, 11:50 PM
I don’t think we are getting anything in return.
And YES LMA quit on Pop and he quit in his team mates.
We can't get anything for him. Why can't he just come off the bench and play hard for 15 minutes a night? I don't get it. It's for one year, and he can find a new team at his choosing next year.
MultiTroll
03-22-2021, 11:54 PM
Kawhi Leonard, quitter.
LMA class act?
Sure, the impact was and is grand canyons apart. But in principle did they both quit?
Yes or no?
GreekSpursfan
03-23-2021, 01:27 AM
If he goes to the lakers or Clippers and we see him revitalized we'll get our answer. If we goes to Portland then he's probably washed
DeRozan m8
03-23-2021, 01:35 AM
Bitch ass diva...always had been.
Couldn't handle starting on the bench...always chose himself over the team....always
Degoat
03-23-2021, 01:39 AM
Regardless it’s for the best, he could of stayed here and been a weapon off the bench but it’s time to move on from him. Still holding out hope for a trade but worst case we buy him out and maybe sign a g league guy or something
duncan2k5
03-23-2021, 06:43 AM
Funny how nobody is bashing him for not sitting on the bench like they were doing for Kawhi
EasyMoney
03-23-2021, 07:01 AM
Funny how nobody is bashing him for not sitting on the bench like they were doing for Kawhi
To be fair. Considering the pandemic, if you're guaranteed not to play then there's no need to be around.
Kermit
03-23-2021, 07:03 AM
Funny how nobody is bashing him for not sitting on the bench like they were doing for Kawhi
Two completely different scenarios, but keep fucking that chicken.
RD2191
03-23-2021, 07:46 AM
Funny how nobody is bashing him for not sitting on the bench like they were doing for Kawhi
Tbh.
Chinook
03-23-2021, 07:54 AM
Eh, I think it's more complicated than that. I believe the Spurs wanted to move him and that played a role in his effort. That then made it harder for them to justify keeping him and so on. "Quitting on" to be implies that the team wants the player but the player is gone mentally.
It's not a good look for either side, though, LMA more than the Spurs
The Truth #6
03-23-2021, 07:54 AM
Something definitely happened behind the scenes. I'm not sure we'll ever know what was expected of him and if boosting his trade value was the goal all season. He bailed on the team at some point, it's just hard to say when. That's how I see it. I was concerned he was going to be a distraction this season after Yak's contract and being dangled in trade scenarios that never came to pass. But LMA not being around much this season was a positive in my opinion so it sort of worked out better than I expected once they didn't trade him over the Summer.
Uriel
03-23-2021, 08:10 AM
People are making this more complicated than it really is. It’s very simple. Aldridge and his ego couldn’t handle losing his starting role to Poeltl and being a bench player. So he wanted out. That’s really all there is to it.
jjspur
03-23-2021, 08:26 AM
Compare him to Timmy & Manu taking less money and smaller roles and you can see why people are ragging on Aldridge and calling him selfish. Aldridge has made more money this year sitting on his ass not playing, then Duncan or Ginoblili did their last few seasons. Thats one reason those two will be hall of famers and Aldridge wont ever be. Now he will be known as a ring chaser.
exstatic
03-23-2021, 08:33 AM
He’s really an emo. I knew he had no team concept or selflessness when he wanted Bowen’s retired number. It must have driven Pop crazy to emotionally coddle him for almost 6 years.
Dejounte
03-23-2021, 08:49 AM
He’s really an emo. I knew he had no team concept or selflessness when he wanted Bowen’s retired number. It must have driven Pop crazy to emotionally coddle him for almost 6 years.
DeMar's another dude who I feel Pop tip toes around his feelings.
I mean, I get it. Not everyone can take it, especially today.
Pop yells at DJ but holds back with DeMar. I think if/when the torch is passed to DJ, we'll see a mentally tougher team.
Stump
03-23-2021, 09:02 AM
Aldridge quit. He genuinely thinks he's entitled to be a starter, despite being 35 years old and playing poorly.
james evans
03-23-2021, 09:12 AM
Something definitely happened behind the scenes. I'm not sure we'll ever know what was expected of him and if boosting his trade value was the goal all season. He bailed on the team at some point, it's just hard to say when. That's how I see it. I was concerned he was going to be a distraction this season after Yak's contract and being dangled in trade scenarios that never came to pass. But LMA not being around much this season was a positive in my opinion so it sort of worked out better than I expected once they didn't trade him over the Summer.
I just think players are tired of Popovich and his dictatorship we know as the San antonio spurs. We're gonna continue to suck as long as he's here. What worked in in the 90s and 2000s does not work in 2021. And I'm tired of seeing the Mills/Derozen 4th quarter combo..
Leetonidas
03-23-2021, 09:14 AM
Funny how nobody is bashing him for not sitting on the bench like they were doing for Kawhi
Probably because Kawhis trade request came after the season and all year he pretended like he was coming back. LMA and spurs have already parted ways, why would he sit on the bench? It's funny how you post this shit and act like you don't understand the difference because you simp for Kawhi 3 years later
Aldridge quit. He genuinely thinks he's entitled to be a starter, despite being 35 years old and playing poorly.
Not just a starter, but seems to want the team built around him and offense run through him. Straight up delusional at this point.
exstatic
03-23-2021, 09:49 AM
DeMar's another dude who I feel Pop tip toes around his feelings.
I mean, I get it. Not everyone can take it, especially today.
Pop yells at DJ but holds back with DeMar. I think if/when the torch is passed to DJ, we'll see a mentally tougher team.
I guess there are degrees. DD didn’t melt down when he didn’t reach an extension agreement, and he’s been pretty with the program and mentoring the young guys.
Dejounte
03-23-2021, 09:55 AM
I guess there are degrees. DD didn’t melt down when he didn’t reach an extension agreement, and he’s been pretty with the program and mentoring the young guys.
I was talking more about on-court than off-court. Off the court, yes, DeMar has been a great leader. On court, not being able to discipline DeMar when he plays selfishly or plays poor defense impacts wins and losses.
John B
03-23-2021, 09:57 AM
It takes a warrior or an alpha to go through hell and back. Aldridge doesn’t have it.
Ice009
03-23-2021, 10:10 AM
I don't get how a lot of people here were wishing him well. Fuck this guy. He could have really helped the team in a bench role the rest of this season. He could have just left as a free agent next off-season, so no, I don't think I want to wish him well.
John B
03-23-2021, 10:16 AM
I don't get how a lot of people here were wishing him well. Fuck this guy. He could have really helped the team in a bench role the rest of this season. He could have just left as a free agent next off-season, so no, I don't think I want to wish him well.
You can’t really blame him for ring chasing at his age. And the Spurs are not at that position, yet. He was still a part of the Spurs, and I could only wish him the best.
paperboy77
03-23-2021, 10:16 AM
Is there some reason he can't be helping out these past 3-4 weeks with his $24 million salary still being paid?
While the cutesy "mutually agreed" PR spin was given by woke Pop, it's got to be true that this was LMA prompting 100% right?
Some reason he can't continue to play productive spot minutes and actually up his value?
Thats exactly what I’ve been thinking since trade talks stalled. He probably did get his feelings hurt and quit. Seems like a dude that would do that.
Also think Pops wokeness is total bullshit way too often.
paperboy77
03-23-2021, 10:20 AM
Funny how nobody is bashing him for not sitting on the bench like they were doing for Kawhi
Probably because it’s expected coming from him. It’s his MO. The guy always sits at the end of the bench an seemingly away from the “acrimony”. Also two completely different situations.
paperboy77
03-23-2021, 10:25 AM
I just think players are tired of Popovich and his dictatorship we know as the San antonio spurs. We're gonna continue to suck as long as he's here. What worked in in the 90s and 2000s does not work in 2021. And I'm tired of seeing the Mills/Derozen 4th quarter combo..
Probably a lot to what you’re saying. Pops a hall of fame but we need a changing of the guard pretty soon. (A year or 2)
The Truth #6
03-23-2021, 10:31 AM
DeMar's another dude who I feel Pop tip toes around his feelings.
I mean, I get it. Not everyone can take it, especially today.
Pop yells at DJ but holds back with DeMar. I think if/when the torch is passed to DJ, we'll see a mentally tougher team.
Absolutely agree. Aldridge wanting out the first time changed Pop in some way, and then Kawhitter's horrendous drama made it more so. Then we get DDR who is getting technicals constantly and feels betrayed. Yeah, Pop had to bite his tongue and that has had an effect. I joke that Pop just yells at the younger players more to get it out of his system. The irony is that when LMA and likely DDR are off the team, then Pop will be too, most likely retired.
John B
03-23-2021, 10:39 AM
Probably a lot to what you’re saying. Pops a hall of fame but we need a changing of the guard pretty soon. (A year or 2)
I love Pop and what PATFO have helped brought to the city of San Antonio. And I get frustrated also with Pop and his calls. But always at the end of the day, it seems that the Spurs are in a better position. You have to admit Spurs lost a franchise player in the worst way, and Spurs only missed the playoff once. We don't even know if by design to land a Vassell :lol. And all the while we curse Pop. We have a young athletic core at every position, and 4 expiring contracts that could net us the 20/10 PF/C. PATFO seems to be always a few moves ahead, and we're just too simple minded to realize at the moment? :lol
duncan2k5
03-23-2021, 10:46 AM
DeMar's another dude who I feel Pop tip toes around his feelings.
I mean, I get it. Not everyone can take it, especially today.
Pop yells at DJ but holds back with DeMar. I think if/when the torch is passed to DJ, we'll see a mentally tougher team.
Completely agree...glad someone else noticed that too
duncan2k5
03-23-2021, 10:47 AM
Probably because Kawhis trade request came after the season and all year he pretended like he was coming back. LMA and spurs have already parted ways, why would he sit on the bench? It's funny how you post this shit and act like you don't understand the difference because you simp for Kawhi 3 years later
I genuinely think Kawhi was gonna come back until the Spurs lowballed him...all reports said he and Pop made up, then the shit hit the fan after the lowball
KobesAchilles
03-23-2021, 10:51 AM
I genuinely think Kawhi was gonna come back until the Spurs lowballed him...all reports said he and Pop made up, then the shit hit the fan after the lowball
I thought we offered him the supermax. I just think he was always going to leave. But yes LMA is a quitter and f the quitter. I hate this whole I can just sit and do nothing and get paid 24 million just bc I whine about my minutes. It's shit like this that makes me hate player entitlement.
Saitam
03-23-2021, 10:57 AM
LMA quited when asked to play C
LMA quited when #2 was our first offensive option
LMA quited last year with soulder debridement surgery before the bubble
LMA quited when sent to bench
Leetonidas
03-23-2021, 10:57 AM
I genuinely think Kawhi was gonna come back until the Spurs lowballed him...all reports said he and Pop made up, then the shit hit the fan after the lowball
I think you got your time lines messed up bro. Dude said he was coming back all year. Showed up to the team photo shoot like all was cool and dipped. Team confronted him and he ghosted the Spurs after that. I don't think it was ever about the money tbh
poopbox
03-23-2021, 10:58 AM
Eh, I think it's more complicated than that. I believe the Spurs wanted to move him and that played a role in his effort. That then made it harder for them to justify keeping him and so on. "Quitting on" to be implies that the team wants the player but the player is gone mentally.
It's not a good look for either side, though, LMA more than the Spurs
The whole reason why the spurs wanted to move him was because he quit...
He came off the bench all of what...2 games...and then boom..."mutual agreement"...
Do we really need to list all the nba players who hear there names in trade rumors or are on the verge of being traded and still play ?
I mean Harrison Barnes found out he was getting traded from the mavs WHILE he was playing in the game...
poopbox
03-23-2021, 11:01 AM
I think you got your time lines messed up bro. Dude said he was coming back all year. Showed up to the team photo shoot like all was cool and dipped. Team confronted him and he ghosted the Spurs after that. I don't think it was ever about the money tbh
I believe what actually happened was Kawhi camp thought the spurs would fold and supermax him anyway, and ownership sent Pop to tell him he was going to have to play out the last year of his deal and there would be no extension talk until after the season, in which his team said trade me...
Lets not give Kawhi to much credit here where he would be the person to say anything...uncle dennis probably still changes his diaper
paperboy77
03-23-2021, 11:14 AM
I love Pop and what PATFO have helped brought to the city of San Antonio. And I get frustrated also with Pop and his calls. But always at the end of the day, it seems that the Spurs are in a better position. You have to admit Spurs lost a franchise player in the worst way, and Spurs only missed the playoff once. We don't even know if by design to land a Vassell :lol. And all the while we curse Pop. We have a young athletic core at every position, and 4 expiring contracts that could net us the 20/10 PF/C. PATFO seems to be always a few moves ahead, and we're just too simple minded to realize at the moment? :lol
Probably. All I know is that the man is getting older AND we should be starting to transition away from Pop. Soon.
duncan2k5
03-23-2021, 11:15 AM
I think you got your time lines messed up bro. Dude said he was coming back all year. Showed up to the team photo shoot like all was cool and dipped. Team confronted him and he ghosted the Spurs after that. I don't think it was ever about the money tbh
Nah bro...ur wrong...after pops wife died there were reports after the season ended that he and Kawhi mended the relationship...the media even stopped trying to push the narrative that Kawhi wanted out... everyone expected he would be back...this was in the offseason...then when contract extension time came, he was lowballed and the shit hit the fan from there
Ed Helicopter Jones
03-23-2021, 11:27 AM
There's not a huge physical talent gap between a guy like LMA and someone like Tim Duncan, but there is a giant difference in what's between the ears. Timmy had the focus, and the burning desire to win that LMA never had. As Tim aged, he did everything he could, physically, to stay competitive. LaMarcus (without Tim's knee issues) just let himself become irrelevant.
It's too bad, because I'm an LMA fan. Sliding back into being a role player is something LMA just can't mentally handle, even though that's all he can do, physically, at this point.
John B
03-23-2021, 11:41 AM
Probably. All I know is that the man is getting older AND we should be starting to transition away from Pop. Soon.
It's off topic and should be on Pop thread, but I would hold on to Pop for the longest. We never realize what we have until we lose it.
I think the PATFO are best in scouting, drafting, and developing unknown players. But it takes somewhat a "jerk" to be a savvy salesman, to trade players without emotional attachment. Whether it's the best way or not in the long run. That's what always differentiate the Spurs as a classy organization from top to bottom.
Aldridge quit, and I don't blame him for ring chasing at his age. This is every basketball players dream, to get a championship by the end of the day. It's tough nephew jumped ship, or Aldridge could've won a ring or two. Just the same, I wish him well.
Joseph Kony
03-23-2021, 11:49 AM
Nah bro...ur wrong...after pops wife died there were reports after the season ended that he and Kawhi mended the relationship...the media even stopped trying to push the narrative that Kawhi wanted out... everyone expected he would be back...this was in the offseason...then when contract extension time came, he was lowballed and the shit hit the fan from there
:lol revisionist history big time. there was no mended relationship. regardless of how Kawhi felt about Pop he had an issue with the Spurs, not pop himself. Pop's wife dying wasn't going to guilt Leonard into staying. and if the price was paying him a supermax which would have completely hamstrung the franchise because he cant even carry a team by himself - then so be it.
i think if anything - Spurs told him we will pay you the supermax but we want to see that you're healthy on the court. which is not an unreasonable request. I guarantee if they felt he was healthy and would've stayed they probably would've given him the supermax. the issue is he balked and demanded a trade before we ever got to see his on court play
seriously, find these reports of Pop and Kawhi making him and him willing to re-sign and post them because I don't remember seeing anything remotely like that during the summer of 18
MultiTroll
03-23-2021, 11:50 AM
Aldridge quit, and I don't blame him for ring chasing at his age. This is every basketball players dream, to get a championship by the end of the day. It's tough nephew jumped ship, or Aldridge could've won a ring or two. Just the same, I wish him well.
Why in your view does "quitting" and "chasing a ring" have to be one and the same?
The whole reason why the spurs wanted to move him was because he quit...
He came off the bench all of what...2 games...and then boom..."mutual agreement"...
Do we really need to list all the nba players who hear there names in trade rumors or are on the verge of being traded and still play ?
I mean Harrison Barnes found out he was getting traded from the mavs WHILE he was playing in the game...
:bobo
Joseph Kony
03-23-2021, 11:51 AM
in regards to the OP - LMA definitely quit, dude can fuck off tbh. I appreciate him putting in work in 18 and 19 but he has been a diva his entire time here and i won't miss him one bit
John B
03-23-2021, 11:55 AM
Why in your view does "quitting" and "chasing a ring" have to be one and the same?
:bobo
"Quit" on the Spurs and did not stay as a role player instead. I said I would understand him "ring chasing" that's why I don't blame him. I think the language is fair.
slick'81
03-23-2021, 12:09 PM
Since the bubble hes totally quit on sa
Brazil
03-23-2021, 12:18 PM
So in games like tonight's vs the Hornets, where LMAs offense could fit in very nicely and contribute to a win thus playoff picture?
So instead of risking injury he can be bought out and Spurs get nothing in return?
If an injury happens it means no trade for the Spurs and no trade for LMA.
It's not like we have a shot at a deep PO run anyway... why risking it then ?
jjspur
03-23-2021, 12:30 PM
I think that every team has at least one diva on it. I do respect DeRozen for at least trying to finish out his contract no matter what the situation, unlike Aldridge just whines and sits because he's not a starter but still gets paid. He saw the writing on the wall telling him he wasn't all that important any more. Guess what Sir Whinealot no matter where you go, you still wont be all that important. Welcome to the official washed up ring chaser's club.
John B
03-23-2021, 12:32 PM
Since the bubble hes totally quit on sa
I don't think so. He did try to shoot the 3's more and be a stretch 4. But it's his perimeter defense that's not up to par
slick'81
03-23-2021, 12:57 PM
I don't think so. He did try to shoot the 3's more and be a stretch 4. But it's his perimeter defense that's not up to par
Meh, hes asked out before and did it again. He is who he is
offset formation
03-23-2021, 03:51 PM
I don’t think we are getting anything in return.
And YES LMA quit on Pop and he quit in his team mates.
Source (other than your ass)?
offset formation
03-23-2021, 03:53 PM
Tbafm.
To be a fucking moron
offset formation
03-23-2021, 03:55 PM
Something definitely happened behind the scenes. I'm not sure we'll ever know what was expected of him and if boosting his trade value was the goal all season. He bailed on the team at some point, it's just hard to say when. That's how I see it. I was concerned he was going to be a distraction this season after Yak's contract and being dangled in trade scenarios that never came to pass. But LMA not being around much this season was a positive in my opinion so it sort of worked out better than I expected once they didn't trade him over the Summer.
The front office is demonstrating yet again they can't do a fucking thing right other than draft. The day to day stuff has been an epic failure since nephew
offset formation
03-23-2021, 03:58 PM
DeMar's another dude who I feel Pop tip toes around his feelings.
I mean, I get it. Not everyone can take it, especially today.
Pop yells at DJ but holds back with DeMar. I think if/when the torch is passed to DJ, we'll see a mentally tougher team.
Yup. Name another player that wouldn't have had his ass benched for a week or shipped out the millisecond he punted or chucked a ball, laid on the floor whining about a foul call, etc. Pop altered who he is with certain players and in so doing showed weakness to his players. Hard to respect that after seeing the other side.
offset formation
03-23-2021, 04:06 PM
Lol at all the ppl saying, "but couldn't he be helping out and playing when we want him to play against the teams we think he could play well against (see all our losses)" while also being the same people trashing him and his game.
It's fucks like many of you that have DWhite deleting his social media accounts after a bad game.
You're fucking toxic shitbags and deserve all the shitty play from the players you trash one night and praise the next. Fucking dolts.
Slippy
03-24-2021, 02:45 AM
Not just a starter, but seems to want the team built around him and offense run through him. Straight up delusional at this point.
Sorry to rain in on this threads parade. The actual evidence shows he was willing to play their way. You know shooting threes , pretty much a floor spacer as the second or third option this season .
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 11:09 AM
If an injury happens it means no trade for the Spurs and no trade for LMA.
FFS. Ewwww you better not drive to the store anymore. You might get in a car accident.
The whole reason why the spurs wanted to move him was because he quit...
He came off the bench all of what...2 games...and then boom..."mutual agreement"...
Do we really need to list all the nba players who hear there names in trade rumors or are on the verge of being traded and still play ?
I mean Harrison Barnes found out he was getting traded from the mavs WHILE he was playing in the game...
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 11:33 AM
Kawhi Leonard, quitter.
LMA class act?
Sure, the impact was and is grand canyons apart. But in principle did they both quit?
Yes or no?
I mean, yes, he quit but so be it.
The Cavaliers & Pistons purposely sat Andre Drummond and Blake Griffin in an attempt to find a market for them, we're both possibly unsuccessful & they'll likely both be bought out.
The Spurs likely didn't want LaMarcus to sit - they are in the playoff hunt - but LaMarcus likely felt "devalued" playing behind Poeltl & coming off the bench.
Oh well, buy him out and move on if you can't find a suitor. These situations literally happen every season - and he isn't owed money past this year like Carrol was - yet ST acts like it is something new.
I'd also love it if they'd move Gay or Mills for an extra draft asset, but going by Pop's recent rotations (and no Luka) that likely isn't happening.
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 11:46 AM
I mean, yes, he quit but so be it.
The Spurs likely didn't want LaMarcus to sit - they are in the playoff hunt - but LaMarcus likely felt "devalued" playing behind Poeltl & coming off the bench.
A vote for "he quit".
Rummpd
03-24-2021, 11:48 AM
Sham sort of former superstar quit big time
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 11:57 AM
Yup. Name another player that wouldn't have had his ass benched for a week or shipped out the millisecond he punted or chucked a ball, laid on the floor whining about a foul call, etc. Pop altered who he is with certain players and in so doing showed weakness to his players. Hard to respect that after seeing the other side.
Didn't DeJounte get fined for punting a ball into the stands? With no "punishment" from Pop coming afterward.
Hasn't TP said that he and he alone was yelled at the most? That Pop rode him the hardest out of everyone on the team (in his 20's)?
Pop is going to his mid - 70's, so you can't blame him for not being the fire breathing, taskmaster of the past. Especially with how more "coddled" and empowered the modern NBA athlete is.
Somehow, lightning up, altering his style and knowing who to ride means a loss of respect by fans (or idiots on ST). :rolleyes:dramaquee:rollin:rollin
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 12:22 PM
Somehow, lightning up, altering his style and knowing who to ride means a loss of respect by fans (or idiots on ST). :rolleyes:dramaquee:rollin:rollin
Ya that's got to be the reason. :lol
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J_Paco
03-24-2021, 12:27 PM
Ya that's got to be the reason. :lol
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One of those guys is gone, yet y'all obsess over him, and the other could be this off-season. Photo has absolutely nothing to do with anything being discussed.
Acting like Pop hasn't had "favorites" or players he "mistreats" his entire time in San Antonio.:rolleyes:rolleyes:rolleyes
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 12:29 PM
Oh well, buy him out and move on if you can't find a suitor. These situations literally happen every season - and he isn't owed money past this year like Carrol was - yet ST acts like it is something new.
No, ST doesn't act like it's something "new".
But with a history of Greatest Player of his Era Timmy Dunker taking far less money, to a lesser extent Ginobili (for one year anyway) you could see why a someone like Aldridge pouting sets a lot of us off. As was posted upthread, he's basically pouted the whole time he's been here. His *best* years were -Oh my- the year Kwa was injure / sat and thus Muh Touches got by far the most FGA's on the team.
Ya real team player that Aldridge.
Lonzo Ball has been constantly on the trade rumor block. He's upped his game and especially his 3 point shooting since. Too bad a vet like LMA can't follow a "modern day coddled" players attitude.
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 12:34 PM
One of those guys is gone, yet y'all obsess over him, and the other could be this off-season. Photo has absolutely nothing to do with anything being discussed.
You brought it up. I'm fine with a little side detour.
Somehow, lightning up, altering his style and knowing who to ride means a loss of respect by fans (or idiots on ST). :rolleyes:dramaquee:rollin:rollin
Any loss of coaching strategy respect has a rock solid basis.
To the threads point, I'd rather they sit pouting LMA the entire year then buy the f'er out.
Why reward his bullshit.
duncan2k5
03-24-2021, 02:42 PM
Buying out LMA instead of trading him for at LEAST an expiring contract and a 2nd round pick would be an epic fail... Only teams that are a free agent destination should ever consider buying out a player...
Dejounte
03-24-2021, 02:45 PM
Buying out LMA instead of trading him for at LEAST an expiring contract and a 2nd round pick would be an epic fail... Only teams that are a free agent destination should ever consider buying out a player...
Not getting a 2nd round pick is an epic fail to you? Because an expiring contract is worthless.
Who gives a fuck about LMA anymore. Some of you guys need to move on. Petty ex boyfriend vibes in this thread. Just be glad we're at this stage already. Some of y'all prayed for this moment to come and now you want more. Greedy bastards.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 02:51 PM
No, ST doesn't act like it's something "new".
But with a history of Greatest Player of his Era Timmy Dunker taking far less money, to a lesser extent Ginobili (for one year anyway) you could see why a someone like Aldridge pouting sets a lot of us off. As was posted upthread, he's basically pouted the whole time he's been here. His *best* years were -Oh my- the year Kwa was injure / sat and thus Muh Touches got by far the most FGA's on the team.
Ya real team player that Aldridge.
Lonzo Ball has been constantly on the trade rumor block. He's upped his game and especially his 3 point shooting since. Too bad a vet like LMA can't follow a "modern day coddled" players attitude.
The reality is that not everyone is the same and you shouldn't expect every athlete to be like Timmy & Manu. Fuck, even David Robinson (the second greatest Spur ever) wasn't willing to take a huge pay cut/"hometown discount" his final season in SA. He even flirted with leaving town and negotiated with other teams (or spoke to them), until the Spurs handed over enough money.
He'll be gone soon and the team will be able to more than replace him.
Kurgan
03-24-2021, 02:53 PM
You brought it up. I'm fine with a little side detour.
Any loss of coaching strategy respect has a rock solid basis.
To the threads point, I'd rather they sit pouting LMA the entire year then buy the f'er out.
Why reward his bullshit.
Technically, they already rewarded him by fully guaranteeing his 25 mil in the summer when he was originally only supposed to make 7 mil this season. LMA on a 7 mil expiring contract would have been more tradeable. By buying him out, it just looks like a repeat of the Carroll buyout...Spurs giving free money to an old vet that's done and then paying them to leave. The front office must be extremely bad at player evaluations to not recognize when a player is washed up.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 02:55 PM
You brought it up. I'm fine with a little side detour.
Any loss of coaching strategy respect has a rock solid basis.
To the threads point, I'd rather they sit pouting LMA the entire year then buy the f'er out.
Why reward his bullshit.
I was speaking about how he treats the players not his strategies, dumbass. And your "respect" means little except that you don't truly value anything Pop helped bring to San Antonio.
Dump him (either by buying him out or trade) and move on by using the two available roster spots. It is a terrible reflection on upper management/ownership that they are cheaping out by at least not bringing in a ten - day contract.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 02:59 PM
Buying out LMA instead of trading him for at LEAST an expiring contract and a 2nd round pick would be an epic fail... Only teams that are a free agent destination should ever consider buying out a player...
What?
Buy outs happen every damn season regardless of team stature. The fucking Pistons, Cavaliers and Spurs aren't free - agent destinations and will all likely need to buy - out talent they couldn't move.
ST just likes to cry about everything....:depressed:depressed:dramaquee:drama quee:dramaquee
Kurgan
03-24-2021, 03:01 PM
The reality is that not everyone is the same and you shouldn't expect every athlete to be like Timmy & Manu. Fuck, even David Robinson (the second greatest Spur ever) wasn't willing to take a huge pay cut/"hometown discount" his final season in SA. He even flirted with leaving town and negotiated with other teams (or spoke to them), until the Spurs handed over enough money.
He'll be gone soon and the team will be able to more than replace him.
IIRC, the Spurs only resigned DRob after they struck out on Chris Webber. SA wasn't overly thrilled at the notion of resigning David and his back problems until they ran out of other options in free agency.
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 03:22 PM
Who gives a fuck about LMA anymore. Some of you guys need to move on. Petty ex boyfriend vibes in this thread. Just be glad we're at this stage already. Some of y'all prayed for this moment to come and now you want more. Greedy bastards.
Vs bending over like a cuck and saying "oh slam me please"?
Expecting a 24 mil a year player who was gifted a completely unnecessary 18 mil extension in the offseason to put forth effort vs quit.
Ya soo greedy.
There is some greed in this equation all right.
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 03:25 PM
I was speaking about how he treats the players not his strategies, dumbass. And your "respect" means little except that you don't truly value anything Pop helped bring to San Antonio.
:cry:dramaquee
Goal post mover.
At any rate, your LMA "quit" vote is in. :clap
Dejounte
03-24-2021, 03:27 PM
Vs bending over like a cuck and saying "oh slam me please"?
Expecting a 24 mil a year player who was gifted a completely unnecessary 18 mil extension in the offseason to put forth effort vs quit.
Ya soo greedy.
There is some greed in this equation all right.
Again, what will you gain to take action and take revenge against a player who is gone after this season? Just so you can brag, "YES, WE MADE HIM MAD! HAHA"? It's a waste of time and energy. It's the definition of pettiness.
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 03:37 PM
Again, what will you gain to take action and take revenge against a player who is gone after this season? Just so you can brag, "YES, WE MADE HIM MAD! HAHA"? It's a waste of time and energy. It's the definition of pettiness.
Bullshit.
What message does it send to bend over and pay the f'r to go pursue another team on the Spurs dime?
It's the definition of cuckery.
And it's present, not past. The ungrateful asstard could be contributing to a potential playoff run right now. Case in point last game vs Charlotte.
DPG21920
03-24-2021, 03:44 PM
Avoiding injury while being negotiated to another team.. makes actually a lot of sense for film and the Spurs
Until you realize he won’t be traded. Should have played him 35 minutes a night if that’s the case tbh
TD 21
03-24-2021, 03:56 PM
What?
Buy outs happen every damn season regardless of team stature. The fucking Pistons, Cavaliers and Spurs aren't free - agent destinations and will all likely need to buy - out talent they couldn't move.
ST just likes to cry about everything....:depressed:depressed:dramaquee:drama quee:dramaquee
The Raptors are on the verge of getting a haul for their in decline, similar aged player, while the Spurs literally can't get a minor asset for theirs and we're supposed to be okay with them once again not reading the tea leaves and being a charity and farm system for the rest of the league?
Try as you might, even you apologists can't spin this one. This is an unmitigated disaster, the latest embarrassing episode for this front office and it'll only get worse when they lose DeRozan and to a lesser extent Gay for nothing in the off season.
DPG21920
03-24-2021, 04:40 PM
If the Spurs weren’t a gigantic outlier in trades then some of y’all would have a point. It’s obvious they suck at trading (lots of variables) and it’s a big organizational blind spot.
Having said that let’s see what happens tomorrow
Dejounte
03-24-2021, 04:47 PM
If the Spurs weren’t a gigantic outlier in trades then some of y’all would have a point. It’s obvious they suck at trading (lots of variables) and it’s a big organizational blind spot.
Having said that let’s see what happens tomorrow
The Spurs are the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
Did people only become a fan of the Spurs because of all the winning that happened behind Tim Duncan?
If so, there's plenty of other legendary players they can follow... LeBron James, for one. Attaching yourself to a team that has stuck by its principles and then acting shocked for it is strange. Why continue?
exstatic
03-24-2021, 04:54 PM
Vs bending over like a cuck and saying "oh slam me please"?
Expecting a 24 mil a year player who was gifted a completely unnecessary 18 mil extension in the offseason to put forth effort vs quit.
Ya soo greedy.
There is some greed in this equation all right.
His contract was actually guaranteed in Oct 2019, not last offseason. He had just had B2B All Star seasons.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 04:59 PM
The Raptors are on the verge of getting a haul for their in decline, similar aged player, while the Spurs literally can't get a minor asset for theirs and we're supposed to be okay with them once again not reading the tea leaves and being a charity and farm system for the rest of the league?
Try as you might, even you apologists can't spin this one. This is an unmitigated disaster, the latest embarrassing episode for this front office and it'll only get worse when they lose DeRozan and to a lesser extent Gay for nothing in the off season.
What "farm system" are we when talking about a 35 - year old, declining player who's game doesn't fit any other team's system or roster.
The team is going to have to bite the bullet and move on from LaMarcus through a buy-out. The same way other teams will with parts (Redick, Drummond & Griffin) that contenders are unwilling to trade for.
The Spurs could move him for an albatross contract with assets attached (Love or Horford), but maybe the team values cap flexibility instead.
Anyway, just another reason for ST crybabies (like yourself) to whine and moan instead of letting things play out.
TD 21
03-24-2021, 05:27 PM
What "farm system" are we when talking about a 35 - year old, declining player who's game doesn't fit any other team's system or roster.
The team is going to have to bite the bullet and move on from LaMarcus through a buy-out. The same way other teams will with parts (Redick, Drummond & Griffin) that contenders are unwilling to trade for.
The Spurs could move him for an albatross contract with assets attached (Love or Horford), but maybe the team values cap flexibility instead.
Anyway, just another reason for ST crybabies (like yourself) to whine and moan instead of letting things play out.
The one where they put a certain scumbag who decimated their franchise a Curry/Durant injury away from a championship and gave a team that was stuck a get out of jail free card. Not to mention all the times they put dead money on their books, bought players out or allowed teams to poach RFA's.
Is that why most of the usual suspects are rumored interested when he gets bought out?
Yeah because they inexplicably didn't trade him while he had more value and gave him an extra $17M this season.
Enjoy the incoming McDermott, Dieng, Galloway (if Mills prefers a contender) haul.
This from the guy who flies into a rage whenever someone dares question the almighty PATFO. How dare we want the team we're fans of to show a pulse and stop throwing assets in the garbage. Stupid us.
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 05:41 PM
His contract was actually guaranteed in Oct 2019, not last offseason. He had just had B2B All Star seasons.
Negative.
2020-21 fully guaranteed on Wednesday, January 1, 2020.
"2020 $7 million guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 1/1/2020."
Numerous comments on how much easier he would have been able to trade for the 6 mil guaranteed this season vs the +18 Unloyalty he got Pop gifted.
Please inform if otherwise.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 06:16 PM
The one where they put a certain scumbag who decimated their franchise a Curry/Durant injury away from a championship and gave a team that was stuck a get out of jail free card. Not to mention all the times they put dead money on their books, bought players out or allowed teams to poach RFA's.
Is that why most of the usual suspects are rumored interested when he gets bought out?
Yeah because they inexplicably didn't trade him while he had more value and gave him an extra $17M this season.
Enjoy the incoming McDermott, Dieng, Galloway (if Mills prefers a contender) haul.
This from the guy who flies into a rage whenever someone dares question the almighty PATFO. How dare we want the team we're fans of to show a pulse and stop throwing assets in the garbage. Stupid us.
Stop crying about Nephew, man. Let that shit go and move the fuck on.
Aldridge isn't an asset anyone wants to trade for, peroid. There has to be mutually interested parts but the Spurs can't find one (just like Detroit, Cleveland, etc). It isn't hard to understand but here you are crying, moaning and complaining like a little bitch (on que) like always.
Anyway, I'm more interested in them finally using the vacant roster spots and trying to find a diamond in the rough. You'll be back by 4:30 PM (Eastern time) tomorrow to whine like a bitch and call them "gutless worms.":lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
exstatic
03-24-2021, 06:17 PM
Negative.
2020-21 fully guaranteed on Wednesday, January 1, 2020.
"2020 $7 million guaranteed, fully if not waived on or before 1/1/2020."
Numerous comments on how much easier he would have been able to trade for the 6 mil guaranteed this season vs the +18 Unloyalty he got Pop gifted.
Please inform if otherwise.
They
Did
It
Early
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/spurs-lamarcus-aldridge-gets-remaining-24m-of-contract-guaranteed-through-end-of-2020-21-season-per-report/
EricB
03-24-2021, 06:22 PM
No, he didn’t.
MultiTroll
03-24-2021, 06:23 PM
^ and it proved to be a very foolish decision, one of many by PATFO circa AZ. (After Zaza)
Drafting / scouting continues to be A++.
KingKev
03-24-2021, 06:25 PM
Not getting a 2nd round pick is an epic fail to you? Because an expiring contract is worthless.
Who gives a fuck about LMA anymore. Some of you guys need to move on. Petty ex boyfriend vibes in this thread. Just be glad we're at this stage already. Some of y'all prayed for this moment to come and now you want more. Greedy bastards.
Yeah this. Bye LMA thanks and good luck. We have a franchise to rebuild and you serve no purpose but we we will work with you on the way out. Cue the obligatory tribute video.
R. DeMurre
03-24-2021, 06:28 PM
The Spurs had two very good years with him, and then diminishing returns. Honestly, he never seemed overly happy. I have no grudge against the guy, but there was never the sense that he loved being in San Antonio. But I think the Spurs held on too long, even when it was clear that the future would rely on the youth movement.
TD 21
03-24-2021, 06:29 PM
Stop crying about Nephew, man. Let that shit go and move the fuck on.
Aldridge isn't an asset anyone wants to trade for, peroid. There has to be mutually interested parts but the Spurs can't find one (just like Detroit, Cleveland, etc). It isn't hard to understand but here you are crying, moaning and complaining like a little bitch (on que) like always.
Anyway, I'm more interested in them finally using the vacant roster spots and trying to find a diamond in the rough. You'll be back by 4:30 PM (Eastern time) tomorrow to whine like a bitch and call them "gutless worms.":lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
If you don't like the answer, you shouldn't have asked the question.
Not at that salary, but he didn't have to be at it (they guaranteed him an extra $17M) and they could have traded him sooner, genius. Instead they held on to the bitter end, as if he was helping them contend for a championship.
All this good guy bullshit has got them where exactly? This is a cutthroat business and it's past time they start looking out for #1.
exstatic
03-24-2021, 06:32 PM
^ and it proved to be a very foolish decision, one of many by PATFO circa AZ. (After Zaza)
Drafting / scouting continues to be A++.
Oh, I agree with that. Just fact checking you. Bad offseason. That was also the summer of Bertans, Lyles, and DeMarre Carroll. They made pretty much all of their mistakes at once.
objective
03-24-2021, 08:11 PM
Aldridge is a big time quitter and the Spurs shouldn't reward his crap with a buyout.
And no, playing hardball with him wouldn't ruin the Spurs reputation and cause agents around the league to keep their clients away. Morey treated his players like garbage, actively sabotaged their careers and destroyed entire lifetime earning potentials, and lied his way out of Houston pretending to quit to spend time with his family with Philly in his back pocket. It's never hurt him.
It wouldn't hurt San Antonio to look out for themselves for once instead of being the nice-guy doormats for everyone else. Hell, look at the quality of free agents they've signed with a 'good' reputation the last 3 years: Marco Belinelli, DeMarre Carroll, Trey Lyles. If that's the kind of free agent they'll miss out on, they'll be lucky.
Aldridge didn't have to sign the extension. He could have asked them to not guarantee his final season. He didn't have to ask for Bruce Bowen's number. He didn't have to do a lot of things. But he still quit.
I expect people will be surprised at how well he plays once he's off the team and other fans will curse at the Spurs for buying him out.
Batum looked like a retiree until he decided to play with some effort after he got his money. Aldridge will be better than that. His slow defense and bad rebounding will suddenly not look so weak.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 08:42 PM
If you don't like the answer, you shouldn't have asked the question.
Not at that salary, but he didn't have to be at it (they guaranteed him an extra $17M) and they could have traded him sooner, genius. Instead they held on to the bitter end, as if he was helping them contend for a championship.
All this good guy bullshit has got them where exactly? This is a cutthroat business and it's past time they start looking out for #1.
Wah, wah, wah.....
The guy was still a serviceable player until this season and the thought was that he'd "age well" with his added three - point shot.
He fell off a cliff defensively, rebounding and effort wise and hindsight tells us they "held on too long." Oh well, again, reality tells us that happens often in sports and with star (or former star) talent.
You'll still cry and whine no matter how reality actually works, but that is has been your M.O. since forever even in the "salad days."
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 08:46 PM
Aldridge is a big time quitter and the Spurs shouldn't reward his crap with a buyout.
And no, playing hardball with him wouldn't ruin the Spurs reputation and cause agents around the league to keep their clients away. Morey treated his players like garbage, actively sabotaged their careers and destroyed entire lifetime earning potentials, and lied his way out of Houston pretending to quit to spend time with his family with Philly in his back pocket. It's never hurt him.
It wouldn't hurt San Antonio to look out for themselves for once instead of being the nice-guy doormats for everyone else. Hell, look at the quality of free agents they've signed with a 'good' reputation the last 3 years: Marco Belinelli, DeMarre Carroll, Trey Lyles. If that's the kind of free agent they'll miss out on, they'll be lucky.
Aldridge didn't have to sign the extension. He could have asked them to not guarantee his final season. He didn't have to ask for Bruce Bowen's number. He didn't have to do a lot of things. But he still quit.
I expect people will be surprised at how well he plays once he's off the team and other fans will curse at the Spurs for buying him out.
Batum looked like a retiree until he decided to play with some effort after he got his money. Aldridge will be better than that. His slow defense and bad rebounding will suddenly not look so weak.
It isn't about "rewarding him" and everything about moving on and looking for something that could conceivably help. They have a empty roster spot that they're unwilling (apparently) to fill and are down another with Aldridge.
Dennis Rodman did the Spurs 1,000 times worse and the team "rewarded him" by sending him the the Bulls. Players (and organizations) do this shit all the time whether right or wrong, so the Spurs need to wipe the pie off their face and look for something that could help.
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03-24-2021, 08:47 PM
Didn't DeJounte get fined for punting a ball into the stands? With no "punishment" from Pop coming afterward.
Hasn't TP said that he and he alone was yelled at the most? That Pop rode him the hardest out of everyone on the team (in his 20's)?
Pop is going to his mid - 70's, so you can't blame him for not being the fire breathing, taskmaster of the past. Especially with how more "coddled" and empowered the modern NBA athlete is.
Somehow, lightning up, altering his style and knowing who to ride means a loss of respect by fans (or idiots on ST). :rolleyes:dramaquee:rollin:rollin
He's not consistent which is the point. You wouldn't know an idiot if one inhabited your body.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 08:53 PM
He's not consistent which is the point. You wouldn't know an idiot if one inhabited your body.
No, your too stupid to understand that he's never treated "everyone" the same. He rode Tony Parker like a damn show pony (if that is what you do with them), Danny Green & Lonnie Walker too.
He didn't ride hothead like Jackson as hard or a terrible defender like Belinelli. See, examples of how he treated players differently, but you'll just lose respect for him for being a "hypocrite" (as if that take away from any of his success).:dramaquee:dramaquee:rolleyes:rolleyes
objective
03-24-2021, 09:02 PM
It isn't about "rewarding him" and everything about moving on and looking for something that could conceivably help. They have a empty roster spot that they're unwilling (apparently) to fill and are down another with Aldridge.
Dennis Rodman did the Spurs 1,000 times worse and the team "rewarded him" by sending him the the Bulls. Players (and organizations) do this shit all the time whether right or wrong, so the Spurs need to wipe the pie off their face and look for something that could help.
The Rodman move was ridiculous at the time and everyone with a clue knew it. It guaranteed the Bulls a title. People pretend that the Bulls didn't win in the Jordan half-season because he was rusty. No, it was because Grant was gone and they needed a PF.
There's nobody the Spurs can pick up to make any difference with anything. So if Aldridge shaves $500k off the Spurs tax bill, they're going to sign some great player now? Going to spend the mid-level?
Of course not. Some nobody big on a 10-day. Not like that player would get minutes over Eubanks anyway.
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03-24-2021, 09:03 PM
No, your too stupid to understand that he's never treated "everyone" the same. He rode Tony Parker like a damn show pony (if that is what you do with them), Danny Green & Lonnie Walker too.
He didn't ride hothead like Jackson as hard or a terrible defender like Belinelli. See, examples of how he treated players differently, but you'll just lose respect for him for being a "hypocrite" (as if that take away from any of his success).:dramaquee:dramaquee:rolleyes:rolleyes
He gets up in everyone's ass. That's what he's known for. But you're too dense to know that each and every motherfucking time Pop talks about Timmy, he says thank you to him for letting him coach him like everyone else.
Every time you hear old spurs interviewed they say Pop would tear into everyone, even Timmy. Of course some get it worse than others -- that's human nature.
Regardless, he'd have fucking benched a DD the millisecond he chucked a ball or pouted and didn't get his ass back on defense. That's not wanting him to be hard on his players. That's wanting a certain level of consistency, of effort, of heart and drive from your players. Old Pop does that every fuckin day. New pop, not so much.
You repeatedly demonstrate you know shit about how pop coaches his players if you think Pop didn't give it to every single person he could when he felt it necessary.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 09:22 PM
He gets up in everyone's ass. That's what he's known for. But you're too dense to know that each and every motherfucking time Pop talks about Timmy, he says thank you to him for letting him coach him like everyone else.
Every time you hear old spurs interviewed they say Pop would tear into everyone, even Timmy. Of course some get it worse than others -- that's human nature.
Regardless, he'd have fucking benched a DD the millisecond he chucked a ball or pouted and didn't get his ass back on defense. That's not wanting him to be hard on his players. That's wanting a certain level of consistency from your players. Old Pop does that every fuckin day. New pop, not so much.
You repeatedly demonstrate you know shit about how pop coaches his players if you think everyone didn't give it to every single person.
He didn't, dumbass.
Did he ride Robert Horry, Avery Johnson, David Robinson as hard as Tony Parker, Danny Green or Lonnie Walker?
I'll drop it cause you're too dense to understand that he always rode people to different degrees. And obviously, he'd mellow out as he aged unless he wanted to have a heart attack.
I gave you an example of DeJounte doing the samething and going "unpunished" too. Not sure what lesson a 10+ veteran will be "taught" by benching him.
Did Pop bench Stephen Jackson and give him a DNP in the playoffs for that "foolish" technical he received in the '13 playoffs (taunting the OKC bench)?
Seems to me that you just hate DeMar's on - court body language and overly emotional "tirades," but expect Pop to coach it out of him when he's been in the league for 10+ years.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 09:29 PM
Hilarious that people want Pop/the organization to adapt to the "modern Black athlete" but in the same breath bench our best offensive player (cause he's too emotional).
That would really send a good message to other Black players outside the team.....
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03-24-2021, 09:32 PM
He didn't, dumbass.
Did he ride Robert Horry, Avery Johnson, David Robinson as hard as Tony Parker, Danny Green or Lonnie Walker?
I'll drop it cause you're too dense to understand that he always rode people to different degrees. And obviously, he'd mellow out as he aged unless he wanted to have a heart attack.
I gave you an example of DeJounte doing the samething and going "unpunished" too. Not sure what lesson a 10+ veteran will be "taught" by benching him.
Did Pop bench Stephen Jackson and give him a DNP in the playoffs for that "foolish" technical he received in the '13 playoffs (taunting the OKC bench)?
Seems to me that you just hate DeMar's on - court body language and overly emotional "tirades," but expect Pop to coach it out of him when he's been in the league for 10+ years.
Omg!?! Ppl used to say Danny Green was his whipping boy. He kicked Jackson off the team. Jackson has unabashedly talked about Pop riding him. You seem oblivious to Pop and his old characteristics.
You clearly don't follow spurs content because you're demonstrating sheer ignorance of the reality.
:pctoss
Ppl here can set you straight.
J_Paco
03-24-2021, 09:39 PM
Omg!?! Ppl used to say Danny Green was his whipping boy.
You clearly don't follow spurs content because you're demonstrating sheer ignorance of the reality.
Ppl here can set you straight.
What?! When did I say that he didn't ride Danny hard? He rides Lonnie as hard as he did Danny and nearly as hard as he did Tony. Anyway, there are different degrees and ways you approach different personalities and Pop knows that.
He dumped Jackson for being unwilling to accept a lesser role (kind of like Aldridge), not for any of his antics during the ' 12 WCF.
The days of "benching" your best player for punting a ball (which DeJounte also did, LOL) are over. I even said modern players need to be coddled more (DeMar is one of those types), but you want Pop to scream in his face and bench him like he's 19 - year old rookie.
I think you took that he "screams at Timmy, so he'll scream at everyone" stuff too literally. Obviously, he knew who to go really hard and who not to.
I've been following the team for nearly 30 years, so I don't think I need anyone to "smarten me up." Thanks....
objective
03-24-2021, 09:55 PM
The other kicker on what makes Aldridge a supreme quitter: The Spurs were a likely playoff team if Aldridge decided to play hard.
It's nothing like Drummond in Cleveland or Griffen in Detroit. Lottery teams where it was time to move on.
Spurs were playoff bound in the west and Aldridge still quit. I'd understand if the Spurs had been 11-14th all season. Sure, buy him out, no playoffs anyway. But he was sabotaging a playoff team.
Sad way to pay back a franchise that gave him a retired number and an extension.
Kurgan
03-24-2021, 10:02 PM
The other kicker on what makes Aldridge a supreme quitter: The Spurs were a likely playoff team if Aldridge decided to play hard.
It's nothing like Drummond in Cleveland or Griffen in Detroit. Lottery teams where it was time to move on.
Spurs were playoff bound in the west and Aldridge still quit. I'd understand if the Spurs had been 11-14th all season. Sure, buy him out, no playoffs anyway. But he was sabotaging a playoff team.
Sad way to pay back a franchise that gave him a retired number and an extension.
This is the same guy that asked for a trade because he wasn't getting his touches on a team that made the conference finals. He's always been a loser, even before he put on that Spurs jersey. I remember Tiago locking him up in the 2014 playoffs. Could never take him seriously as a 1st option star after that.
DPG21920
03-25-2021, 12:54 AM
The Spurs are the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow.
Did people only become a fan of the Spurs because of all the winning that happened behind Tim Duncan?
If so, there's plenty of other legendary players they can follow... LeBron James, for one. Attaching yourself to a team that has stuck by its principles and then acting shocked for it is strange. Why continue?
What
jjspur
03-25-2021, 09:44 AM
Don't players in Europe have buyouts paid for by the player and the team (other Euro team or NBA team) that wants to sign them. That would be a nice rule in the NBA but I'm sure the players association would whine all day and night about that rule. A lot of buyout players come across as real greedy when they get paid for doing absolutely nothing.
TD 21
03-25-2021, 11:25 AM
Wah, wah, wah.....
The guy was still a serviceable player until this season and the thought was that he'd "age well" with his added three - point shot.
He fell off a cliff defensively, rebounding and effort wise and hindsight tells us they "held on too long." Oh well, again, reality tells us that happens often in sports and with star (or former star) talent.
You'll still cry and whine no matter how reality actually works, but that is has been your M.O. since forever even in the "salad days."
He was 35 and obviously liable to fall off a cliff anytime. There was signs/slippage last season.
All your apologist ass does is whine and make excuses while bowing down at PATFO's altar because of 5 rings. As if that gives them a lifetime pass to continue to do stupid, negligent things that anyone with a brain doesn't need hindsight to realize.
J_Paco
03-25-2021, 12:23 PM
He was 35 and obviously liable to fall off a cliff anytime. There was signs/slippage last season.
All your apologist ass does is whine and make excuses while bowing down at PATFO's altar because of 5 rings. As if that gives them a lifetime pass to continue to do stupid, negligent things that anyone with a brain doesn't need hindsight to realize.
Get over it, man. All you've ever done is complain, bitch and whine. Even when the Big 3 was here you'd refer to them as "Gutless Worms" & other such nonsense.
There are a lot factors to why they won't or can't move their assets, but you've ignored me stating them repeatedly.
Just keep whining, man....
J_Paco
03-25-2021, 12:33 PM
The other kicker on what makes Aldridge a supreme quitter: The Spurs were a likely playoff team if Aldridge decided to play hard.
It's nothing like Drummond in Cleveland or Griffen in Detroit. Lottery teams where it was time to move on.
Spurs were playoff bound in the west and Aldridge still quit. I'd understand if the Spurs had been 11-14th all season. Sure, buy him out, no playoffs anyway. But he was sabotaging a playoff team.
Sad way to pay back a franchise that gave him a retired number and an extension.
Drummond was healthy, willing to play and wanting to help them maintain or gain a playoff spot. Instead, Cleveland sat a healthy, serviceable and productive player with the express purpose of dealing him, but might need to buy him out instead.
I already stated that Aldridge quit on the team and his teammates, but the Spurs also needed to move on less he starts to become a distraction.
I guess people wanted the Spurs to fine and suspend Aldridge. While he sits out games and it becomes a national story, then other players' complain about the mistreatment on social media or the national media? The Spurs will (whether right or wrong) always take the perceived "high road" and other similar situations should tell us that.
I'm not expecting Pop to all of a sudden start slinging mud and "strongly punishing" misbehaving players. That isn't his M.O. and likely never will be...
MultiTroll
03-25-2021, 01:50 PM
I already stated that Aldridge quit on the team and his teammates, but the Spurs also needed to move on less he starts to become a distraction.
So how about moving on to this thread?
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TD 21
03-25-2021, 03:49 PM
Get over it, man. All you've ever done is complain, bitch and whine. Even when the Big 3 was here you'd refer to them as "Gutless Worms" & other such nonsense.
There are a lot factors to why they won't or can't move their assets, but you've ignored me stating them repeatedly.
Just keep whining, man....
I knew you'd try to steer this into the gutter to distract from the fact that there is no defense for it coming to this with Aldridge and that it's another embarrassing episode for them. Deal with it.
Kurgan
03-25-2021, 03:58 PM
I knew you'd try to steer this into the gutter to distract from the fact that there is no defense for it coming to this with Aldridge and that it's another embarrassing episode for them. Deal with it.
Three buyouts in three consecutive years is a real bad look for the FO.
J_Paco
03-26-2021, 01:06 AM
I knew you'd try to steer this into the gutter to distract from the fact that there is no defense for it coming to this with Aldridge and that it's another embarrassing episode for them. Deal with it.
All I picture is you crying to yourself. They were "embarrassed" to buy - out the contract just like Cleveland, Detroit, etc.
Three buyouts in three consecutive years is a real bad look for the FO.
This is the second year for them consecutively for something that routinely and annually happens.
My apologies, you were correct and I was wrong forgetting that they've bought out Gasol, Carroll and now Aldridge in successive seasons.
This is literally how bad and/or mediocre teams operate but y'all acting like it's brand new.
It also indicates that they need to stop signing past their prime talent, hoping they can squeeze more productivity out of them. Hopefully they don't re - sign Mills or Gay and end up with buyer's remorse later on.
Them not filling the roster spot (they likely won't) is actually shameful and signals that the Holt family isn't in it to improve (quickly) or win.
RC_Drunkford
03-26-2021, 04:13 AM
Imagine being LaMarcus Aldridge on a lottery team and the headcoach tells you that he prefers to start a volleyball player over you while contenders like the Lakers and Heat offer you a starting gig. I would leave immediately too
tbdog
03-26-2021, 04:42 AM
Imagine being LaMarcus Aldridge on a lottery team and the headcoach tells you that he prefers to start a volleyball player over you while contenders like the Lakers and Heat offer you a starting gig. I would leave immediately too
Avg 4.5 rebs at 26mins, as a starting center with a 6ft6 pf next to you, is a disgrace.
TD 21
03-26-2021, 03:20 PM
All I picture is you crying to yourself. They were "embarrassed" to buy - out the contract just like Cleveland, Detroit, etc.
Either more spin to attempt to shield your beloved PATFO, poor reading comprehension or both.
I said, there's no reason it should have come to this with Aldridge; this could have easily been handled in the off season or preferably the previous season's trade deadline.
Drummond made even more and Griffin made way more than either for multi years, plus had fallen even further than Aldridge due to injury.
The other kicker on what makes Aldridge a supreme quitter: The Spurs were a likely playoff team if Aldridge decided to play hard.
It's nothing like Drummond in Cleveland or Griffen in Detroit. Lottery teams where it was time to move on.
Spurs were playoff bound in the west and Aldridge still quit. I'd understand if the Spurs had been 11-14th all season. Sure, buy him out, no playoffs anyway. But he was sabotaging a playoff team.
Sad way to pay back a franchise that gave him a retired number and an extension.
Dude's poor little ego couldn't handle coming off the bench, despite the fact that he was getting wrecked on a nightly basis against other starting lineups.
The more this buyout settles in, the less sympathy I have for Aldridge. He gave us a few good years but was a constant prima donna, then basically said "aight I'm out"
DeRozan m8
03-26-2021, 05:57 PM
This is the same guy that asked for a trade because he wasn't getting his touches on a team that made the conference finals. He's always been a loser, even before he put on that Spurs jersey. I remember Tiago locking him up in the 2014 playoffs. Could never take him seriously as a 1st option star after that.
This
J_Paco
03-26-2021, 06:10 PM
Either more spin to attempt to shield your beloved PATFO, poor reading comprehension or both.
I said, there's no reason it should have come to this with Aldridge; this could have easily been handled in the off season or preferably the previous season's trade deadline.
Drummond made even more and Griffin made way more than either for multi years, plus had fallen even further than Aldridge due to injury.
Blah, blah, blah....
Similar scenarios (of course the situations aren't 1:1), but here you are making excuses why they're different.
Again, they were under the (false) impression they could squeeze more productivity out of him, but he clearly didn't feel motivated to stay. He also clearly bulked at coming off the bench behind Poeltl. It sucks, he sucks and it sucks they team couldn't find any deal for him. Oh well....
He's gone, now, the team needs to move on and make smarter decisions, period. I'm sure you'll be crying about this sometime next year just like you still cry about "scumbag" ditching us.
I'm done with you and your negativity and constant whining. Go yell at your TV screen whenever Pop, Nephew or Aldridge appear....
TD 21
03-26-2021, 06:34 PM
Blah, blah, blah....
Similar scenarios (of course the situations aren't 1:1), but here you are making excuses why they're different.
Again, they were under the (false) impression they could squeeze more productivity out of him, but he clearly didn't feel motivated to stay. He also clearly bulked at coming off the bench behind Poeltl. It sucks, he sucks and it sucks they team couldn't find any deal for him. Oh well....
He's gone, now, the team needs to move on and make smarter decisions, period. I'm sure you'll be crying about this sometime next year just like you still cry about "scumbag" ditching us.
I'm done with you and your negativity and constant whining. Go yell at your TV screen whenever Pop, Nephew or Aldridge appear....
So it's okay when you say it, but it's the end of the world when I do.
Again, poor reading comprehension. It was never about Scumbag "ditching us", it was about how he went about it, which destroyed his value and set the franchise back years. Had he been a professional and allowed them to max out, I'd have been cool with it.
That's funny coming from the ranting, raving lunatic apologist.
RC_Drunkford
03-26-2021, 06:36 PM
J_Paco aka the last sniffer left
J_Paco
03-27-2021, 10:37 PM
J_Paco aka the last sniffer left
You mean a realist that knows 29 other organizations want what San Antonio has been extremely lucky to have. And that eventually, just like in Utah, Chicago, New York & Los Angeles (Lakers), our run would end and "bad times" are ahead.
They tried to slow that down, but all went to shit with the trading of Nephew. They've made plenty of mistakes since then but being in a small market with cheap ownership (seemingly cheaper than ever) not helping.
Not gonna say anymore about it cause it doesn't matter anymore. Try to draft a star, be smarter with signings and hope our downturn doesn't last a decade(s) (like Sacramento, Orlando, Chicago, Minnesota, etc, etc.).
J_Paco
03-27-2021, 10:39 PM
So it's okay when you say it, but it's the end of the world when I do.
Again, poor reading comprehension. It was never about Scumbag "ditching us", it was about how he went about it, which destroyed his value and set the franchise back years. Had he been a professional and allowed them to max out, I'd have been cool with it.
That's funny coming from the ranting, raving lunatic apologist.
Sure, just like your complaining about this Aldridge situation even though both parties agreed to it. He would have been nothing more than a distraction had he stayed (and pouted), he'd have left this Summer, yet here you are still bitching and crying......
Sure I'm the one that rants and raves not the guy that called Tim Duncan, Tony Parker & Manu Ginobili "Gutless worms" crying, ranting and whining like a lunatic in that very thread......
John B
03-27-2021, 10:53 PM
I guess signing with the Nets is understable. It’s just pure ringchasing and nothing else. Technically he quits on the team, but by the end of the day, he likes to finish a long career in basketball for a chance on the ring. I’m just relieved it wasn’t the Lakers nor the Clippers.
J_Paco
03-27-2021, 11:00 PM
I guess signing with the Nets is understable. It’s just pure ringchasing and nothing else. Technically he quits on the team, but by the end of the day, he likes to finish a long career in basketball for a chance on the ring. I’m just relieved it wasn’t the Lakers nor the Clippers.
Playing off of Harden, Durant & Irving is gonna make his life a lot easier than playing with DeRozan, Johnson and Murray.
Miami, Milwaukee or Philadelphia are going to have to play God - level defense to stop that many offensive options on one team. Gonna be an interesting Eastern conference playoffs this Summer.
I'm just happy the "saga" or situation is over and ready to turn the page.
John B
03-27-2021, 11:19 PM
Playing off of Harden, Durant & Irving is gonna make his life a lot easier than playing with DeRozan, Johnson and Murray.
Miami, Milwaukee or Philadelphia are going to have to play God - level defense to stop that many offensive options on one team. Gonna be an interesting Eastern conference playoffs this Summer.
I'm just happy the "saga" or situation is over and ready to turn the page.
Now to turn this team again to where vets want to chasering. It might be awhile. Spurs is dying for a franchise player. Regret I can’t see that with any of our guys. Spurs best is 2004 Pistons. Still that team had Rasheed and DPOY Ben.
Kurgan
03-28-2021, 12:08 AM
So which washed up vet will the Spurs sign this summer and proceed to buy out in one/two years after they fall off a cliff? Rudy seems like a good bet. Horford maybe if the Thunder let him go.
Gibbz
03-28-2021, 12:12 AM
So which washed up vet will the Spurs sign this summer and proceed to buy out in one/two years after they fall off a cliff? Rudy seems like a good bet. Horford maybe if the Thunder let him go.
Conley
PhantomDashCam
03-28-2021, 12:39 AM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376013455178792961?s=20
Teamduncan21
03-28-2021, 02:24 AM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1376013455178792961?s=20
It's not that fast. He has weeks to do it
Spurtacular
03-28-2021, 02:47 AM
LMA quit on a mediocre team.
Kawhi quit on a championship contender.
I differentiate between the two.
Kawhi can pound sand.
Teamduncan21
03-28-2021, 07:42 AM
LMA quit on a mediocre team.
Kawhi quit on a championship contender.
I differentiate between the two.
Kawhi can pound sand.
Lma is not that good anymore when he quit. Kawhi is top 5 in nba and quit in an unprofessional way
TD 21
03-28-2021, 09:42 AM
Sure, just like your complaining about this Aldridge situation even though both parties agreed to it. He would have been nothing more than a distraction had he stayed (and pouted), he'd have left this Summer, yet here you are still bitching and crying......
Sure I'm the one that rants and raves not the guy that called Tim Duncan, Tony Parker & Manu Ginobili "Gutless worms" crying, ranting and whining like a lunatic in that very thread......
Again, either being intentionally obtuse to attempt to shield your lord and savior, poor reading comprehension or both. Aldridge should have been traded the previous off season or preferably trade deadline, so that it wouldn't have come to this.
:lmao At the hypocrisy of complaining about me needing to supposedly "get over" something from less than 3 years ago, while you bring up a thread from almost 10 years ago.
duncan2k5
03-28-2021, 09:48 AM
You mean a realist that knows 29 other organizations want what San Antonio has been extremely lucky to have. And that eventually, just like in Utah, Chicago, New York & Los Angeles (Lakers), our run would end and "bad times" are ahead.
They tried to slow that down, but all went to shit with the trading of Nephew. They've made plenty of mistakes since then but being in a small market with cheap ownership (seemingly cheaper than ever) not helping.
Not gonna say anymore about it cause it doesn't matter anymore. Try to draft a star, be smarter with signings and hope our downturn doesn't last a decade(s) (like Sacramento, Orlando, Chicago, Minnesota, etc, etc.).
If ppl with ur mentality ran the Lakers and celtics, they would not have the most rings ever .. they'd be content with just 5
duncan2k5
03-28-2021, 09:49 AM
It's not that fast. He has weeks to do it
Jacob didn't like that clown either
duncan2k5
03-28-2021, 09:51 AM
Lma is not that good anymore when he quit. Kawhi is top 5 in nba and quit in an unprofessional way
LMA also did it in an unprofessional way TWICE...And if we're gonna talk unprofessional, the Spurs front office guy that called him a pussy and caused him to leave was unprofessional...but the FO can do no wrong, right? I don't carry your sorry team on my back, get hurt and u call me a pussy and expect me to be cool
J_Paco
03-28-2021, 09:52 AM
If ppl with ur mentality ran the Lakers and celtics, they would not have the most rings ever .. they'd be content with just 5
But none of us run anything, we're only FANS! Spurs had Jack shit before Duncan, Popovich, Parker & Ginobili arrived and nothing is guaranteed.
I'm done with this dumb thread and moving on. Y'all can continue to act like know - it - all entitled bitches like usual, though.:tu
Teamduncan21
03-28-2021, 11:20 AM
LMA also did it in an unprofessional way TWICE...And if we're gonna talk unprofessional, the Spurs front office guy that called him a pussy and caused him to leave was unprofessional...but the FO can do no wrong, right? I don't carry your sorry team on my back, get hurt and u call me a pussy and expect me to be cool
Lma did try to quit by requesting a trade. But not creating a fiasco. So depends how you define unprofessional.
I never said fo can do no wrong. You're making it up. I said kawhi was unprofessional. Doesn't mean fo is professional or not.
You're making up your own narrative so that you can argue with it
Play Boban
03-28-2021, 12:00 PM
This POS quit on the Spurs years ago.
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