Report: DeMar DeRozan Ready to Move On From Spurs; Spurs Have “Made it Clear” DeMar Is Available Via Trade

[BatManu20]

It’s Bleacher Report so take it with a big ‘ol grain of salt, but yea.

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[BatManu20]

The NBA trade deadline is just two days away and DeMar DeRozan — despite continuously denying reports (https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-news-demar-derozan-strong-statement-about-alleged-trade-demand/) of him wanting a trade — may be a player who would welcome a change of scenery.

In an article about what insiders are saying ahead of the deadline, Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer reported that DeRozan could have his sights set on rejoining (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2937698-what-inside-sources-are-saying-about-nbas-top-buyout-candidates) the Eastern Conference, either now or after this season.

DeMar DeRozan is amid the final year of his current contract with the San Antonio Spurs (https://clutchpoints.com/sports/nba/san-antonio-spurs) and is earning himself some money with how he’s performing this season. The four-time All-Star is quietly having a productive season with the Spurs by averaging 20.6 points, 4.5 rebounds, and a career-high 7.4 assists per game.
While DeRozan seems to be getting comfortable in Gregg Popovich’s system, it’s uncertain if he is anxious to remain in San Antonio. With that in mind, Fischer named the New York Knicks (https://clutchpoints.com/sports/nba/new-york-knicks), Chicago Bulls (https://clutchpoints.com/sports/nba/chicago-bulls), and Orlando Magic (https://clutchpoints.com/sports/nba/orlando-magic) as suitors for DeRozan.


If the Knicks were to acquire DeMar DeRozan, it would give them exactly what they need as they make a push for the playoffs. Getting a wing who can facilitate the offense could open things up for Julius Randle (https://clutchpoints.com/sports/nba/players/julius-randle/9a6b0863), RJ Barrett, and Immanuel Quickley.
As for the Bulls, they believe they are a piece away from being able to sneak into the playoffs. Chicago currently holds the No. 9 seed in the Eastern Conference at 19-23 but is still just 2.5 games behind the No. 4 seed. Fischer notes Otto Porter Jr. could be used as a possible trade chip to get DeRozan.

For the Magic, while they aren’t positioned to win this season, they are confident in their future once Markelle Fultz and Jonathan Isaac return from injuries. Regardless of whether or not he’s traded by Thursday’s deadline, DeMar DeRozan may be paying close attention to teams in the Eastern Conference for when he hits free agency.

[Prime BEEF]

Yeah, made available and willing to actually accept trade offers are to very different things. Will be very surprised if he actually does get traded.

[BatManu20]

Yeah, made available and willing to actually accept trade offers are to very different things. Will be very surprised if he actually does get traded.


Agreed. Don’t think he’s moved before the deadline, but him wanting out of SA wouldn’t be the least bit surprising, especially if we miss the playoffs for a second straight year. Or even making them but being eliminated in the first round. Not unless we offer him max money, which we won’t.

[Dex]

He gone....but probably will walk as a free agent.

[NASpurs]

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[MoSpur02]

His defense sucks. He showed that a lot yesterday. It’s super frustrating. I’m a fan of his game offensively, but he pisses me off on defense. Trade him if you can get a young player in return who is up and coming.

[duncan2k5]

If we can't trade him, our FO sucks

[JADG79]

No way DD is out right now, but I like Bulls young players like Markkanen (inj prone) and Coby White, even Wendell has some ceiling.
White is struggling with Billy Donovan system, but his ceiling is high, he need a change.

[Dejounte]

If we can't trade him, our FO sucks

So you say he's terrible, but then expect other teams to think the opposite so that they trade for him. Doesn't make sense.

[John B]

Demar strikes me as someone loyal. He didn't want to leave freezing cold Canada because he invested deeply and learned to love the city. And I think he feels the same with the Spurs, especially playing with the young core. But then again he was snubbed by the All-Star selection and rated 82nd by ESPN, it could be how everybody hated the Spurs? Or it would be different in a big market like New York, Miami or Orlando? I hope not. I think Demar is waayy under appreciated, and he's been a very good soldier. He hasn't really complained and did what he was asked to do. He has learned to become a facilitator, and arguably playing the best basketball in his career imo.

[BatManu20]

Watch him go back to Toronto :lol

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[szkorhetz]

Watch him go back to Toronto :lol

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Lowry is gone.

[John B]

Watch him go back to Toronto :lol

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Maybe recruiting Kyle?? :lol

[itzsoweezee]

See ya. Don’t let the DOR hit you on the way out.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

We'll see. DeMar would help an Eastern team's playoff chances significantly and he's playing good ball. If the FO feels they'll lose him anyway they should make a move.

[Dverde]

Still like a trade to ATL. Makes sense for both sides.

[NK123]

I really don't think this is true.
Demar had the opportunity last year and he didn't.
Maybe we are offering a contract that he does not agree with.
I see him staying for 2 more years at least.

[MultiTroll]

It’s Bleacher Report so take it with a big ‘ol grain of salt, but yea.
No chit. Pure speculation piece.

"The NBA trade deadline is just two days away and DeMar DeRozan — despite continuously denying reports of him wanting a trade — may be a player who would welcome a change of scenery.

In an article about what insiders are saying ahead of the deadline, Bleacher Report’s Jake Fischer reported that DeRozan could have his sights set on rejoining the Eastern Conference, either now or after this season.

DeMar DeRozan is amid the final year of his current contract with the San Antonio Spurs and is earning himself some money with how he’s performing this season. The four-time All-Star is quietly having a productive season with the Spurs by averaging 20.6 points, 4.5 rebounds, and a career-high 7.4 assists per game.
While DeRozan seems to be getting comfortable in Gregg Popovich’s system, it’s uncertain if he is anxious to remain in San Antonio. With that in mind, Fischer named the New York Knicks, Chicago Bulls, and Orlando Magic as suitors for DeRozan.

If the Knicks were to acquire DeMar DeRozan, it would give them exactly what they need as they make a push for the playoffs. Getting a wing who can facilitate the offense could open things up for Julius Randle, RJ Barrett, and Immanuel Quickley.
As for the Bulls, they believe they are a piece away from being able to sneak into the playoffs. Chicago currently holds the No. 9 seed in the Eastern Conference at 19-23 but is still just 2.5 games behind the No. 4 seed. Fischer notes Otto Porter Jr. could be used as a possible trade chip to get DeRozan."


For the Magic, while they aren’t positioned to win this season, they are confident in their future once Markelle Fultz and Jonathan Isaac return from injuries. Regardless of whether or not he’s traded by Thursday’s deadline, DeMar DeRozan may be paying close attention to teams in the Eastern Conference for when he hits free agency.

[Dverde]

We'll see. DeMar would help an Eastern team's playoff chances significantly and he's playing good ball. If the FO feels they'll lose him anyway they should make a move.

Exactly. If you can get good assets back and the guy still won’t re-sign, they should be listening.

[Joseph Kony]

I wouldn't mind having DD back for 1 more year but it's best to trade him now to fill the roster out. Spurs really need to alleviate the glut of guards so they can start giving guys like Vassell/Keldon/Samanic at their natural positions

[John B]

I really don't think this is true.
Demar had the opportunity last year and he didn't.
Maybe we are offering a contract that he does not agree with.
I see him staying for 2 more years at least.

I think it depends on who we can sign a 20/10 to help us go deeper. I think he'll be a big part of the discussion, and will make him decide whether to pack or stay.
He's also probably thinking of his friend Lowry in addition. I wouldn't mind a two year deal. We don't have a clutch shooter, deadly assassin like Lowry.

[SpursDynasty85]

we need a starting pf who can also play backup center. demar has to go for roster balance at the very least

[John B]

we need a starting pf who can also play backup center. demar has to go for roster balance at the very least
Demar is a point forward and not a PF/C. You're mistaking him for Aldridge :bobo

[slick'81]

Soo nothing new? Got it

[Prime BEEF]

Still like a trade to ATL. Makes sense for both sides.
That is my hope as well

[slick'81]

Derozan and lma both wanting out of sa :(

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Derozan and lma both wanting out of sa :(

Bleacher Report articles have the journalistic integrity of most posts on Spurstalk, so I'm not necessarily inclined to believe DeRozan is asking to be traded. Now, whether the Spurs are shopping him a bit...that could be happening for sure.

[cd98]

Maybe DDR wants to leave. But I can't imagine he is in a rush to leave S.A. He's revitalized his career by putting up some of his best numbers. SA makes him the centerpiece of the offense. He gets as many shots as he wants and the ball is in his hands whenever he is on the court. He's in the perfect showcase situation and so I don't know that he is in a rush to leave to another situation where he becomes the 2nd or 3rd best player and his shots get limited. The only way I would see him really wanting out would be if he had a chance to play somewhere with Lowry again and contend.

Leave as a free agent? Sure. But want out this season, I'm not so sure.

[daslicer]

Maybe DDR wants to leave. But I can't imagine he is in a rush to leave S.A. He's revitalized his career by putting up some of his best numbers. SA makes him the centerpiece of the offense. He gets as many shots as he wants and the ball is in his hands whenever he is on the court. He's in the perfect showcase situation and so I don't know that he is in a rush to leave to another situation where he becomes the 2nd or 3rd best player and his shots get limited. The only way I would see him really wanting out would be if he had a chance to play somewhere with Lowry again and contend.

Leave as a free agent? Sure. But want out this season, I'm not so sure.

The Knicks are going to make a strong push for him. He will get plenty of shots with them since they don't have a legit perimeter scorer. NYC is also only a 30 minute flight from Toronto and we all know how much Demar misses Toronto.

[lmbebo]

Only reason I could see him pushing out is because of the contract situation. I'm guessing he would only agree to be traded to a particular situation if they are promising a contract extension he wants.

[murpjf88]

Derozan and lma both wanting out of sa :(
Duncan, not culture was the glue that held this franchise together for 20 years.

[eDizzle20]

I’d rather have Demar walk than take on a bad contract. He would be a great addition to a team that is the cusp of the playoffs. His offensive efficiency is through the roof. To average less than 2 turnovers a game and more than 7 assists is impressive. Atlanta and Chicago are logical destinations, but not for peanuts.

[DesignatedT]

I agree it would make more sense for DDR to just wait until the off-season.

This looks like the Spurs see the writing on the wall that DDR is walking and now they are scrambling to get something.

[Texas_Ranger]

Id say get a 1st round pick, but i also know that pick will be wasted on a player that needs 3 years to start playing.

[Dejounte]

Id say get a 1st round pick, but i also know that pick will be wasted on a player that needs 3 years to start playing.

Yeah, because that's what happened with Keldon (who is averaging 30 minutes in his second year, 3rd highest on team) & Vassell.

[Mugen]

Good stuff. Now just need to ditch Rudy, Patty, and the old man this offseason and this organization can finally move on and start looking towards bigger / better things than the last 3 garbage years tbh.

[pad300]

Id say get a 1st round pick, but i also know that pick will be wasted on a player that needs 3 years to start playing.

If that gives us a legitimate, ring-worthy, #1 option... That's a price you pay.

[slick'81]

Duncan, not culture was the glue that held this franchise together for 20 years.

even duncan almost went to the magic. Thank david for really buying in and keeping sa legitimate

demar has been a good teammate and is def coachable . If i were him id be worried sours havent got an extension done with him yet. Spurs should move him for a big and balance the roster if they dont plan to resign him,unless that "cap space" is going to bring back something this off season.

[lmbebo]

Only way Spurs cap space does anything is to absorb bad contracts attached to 1st round picks ...no FA signing here

[Teamduncan21]

As long as it keeps us better.

It's plausible. But spurs usually is quite picky with returns.

It maybe contract talks didn't go well. But then again he will.be one of the better free agents next season. So he don't need to rush

[John B]

I’d rather have Demar walk than take on a bad contract. He would be a great addition to a team that is the cusp of the playoffs. His offensive efficiency is through the roof. To average less than 2 turnovers a game and more than 7 assists is impressive. Atlanta and Chicago are logical destinations, but not for peanuts.

Nah if Demar wants out, you trade him now for a good haul. There is no top FA who will be knocking on Spurs door anytime soon, especially without a Star to play with.

[El Santo]

Trey lyles wants out too.....

[KobesAchilles]

Spurs need him way more than he needs us. We are over here losing to CHA without LaMelo (and would've gotten blown out ifhe wasn't here) and people want him gone :lol

[daslicer]

Spurs need to target the Knicks. The Knicks want to get in the playoffs badly and have had interest in Demar for a while. See if you can trade Demar to them for a first rounder and some solid role players. The knicks have 2 first round picks this year.

[daslicer]

Spurs need him way more than he needs us. We are over here losing to CHA without LaMelo (and would've gotten blown out ifhe wasn't here) and people want him gone :lol

Spurs are definitely a lottery team without him but if he doesn't want to be here they might as well trade him and just start the official rebuild. Maybe you can package him and LMA together and get some interesting offers from a desperate team.

[cd98]

Trading DDR now would mean the Spurs are giving up on making the playoffs. I'm all for it if they can get a good lottery pick. Lots of talent in the upcoming draft. But I also enjoy watching DDR play. I wouldn't even mind if they signed him for two more years if the money was reasonable for the dropoff. But I'm sure he wants a big contract and he has probably earned one. No way the Spurs make the playoffs with him getting traded.

[The Truth #6]

Maybe DDR wants to leave. But I can't imagine he is in a rush to leave S.A. He's revitalized his career by putting up some of his best numbers. SA makes him the centerpiece of the offense. He gets as many shots as he wants and the ball is in his hands whenever he is on the court. He's in the perfect showcase situation and so I don't know that he is in a rush to leave to another situation where he becomes the 2nd or 3rd best player and his shots get limited. The only way I would see him really wanting out would be if he had a chance to play somewhere with Lowry again and contend.

Leave as a free agent? Sure. But want out this season, I'm not so sure.

Excellent point. We have rehabilitated his playing style in a way that should be helpful for a lot of teams, at least ones with outside shooting. And yeah, going to another team could potentially lower his market value.

[lmbebo]

Trading DDR now would mean the Spurs are giving up on making the playoffs. I'm all for it if they can get a good lottery pick. Lots of talent in the upcoming draft. But I also enjoy watching DDR play. I wouldn't even mind if they signed him for two more years if the money was reasonable for the dropoff. But I'm sure he wants a big contract and he has probably earned one. No way the Spurs make the playoffs with him getting traded.

I think Spurs would be willing to max him out for 2/3 years? But DDR wants 4 year max... do you sacrifice this year for one last run at playoffs? Stuff we aren't privy too in the discussions internally.

[CGD]

Spurs need to target the Knicks. The Knicks want to get in the playoffs badly and have had interest in Demar for a while. See if you can trade Demar to them for a first rounder and some solid role players. The knicks have 2 first round picks this year.

Knicks would be good, but theyre probably targeting him and Lowry together this off-season with all their cap-room.

Chicago is interesting though with that Porter contract. DDR/Trey for Porter/Markenen works on paper. Unclear who would have to add the picks to make it work.

[EasyMoney]

If the bulls rumors are true. Then you gotta think they want lauri markannen. Demar as a stretch 4 for them with lavine and Williams would be dirty.

The Knicks is an intriguing option too, a veteran scorer is what the Knicks need to solidify a playoff spot

[ginobilized]

Knicks would be good, but theyre probably targeting him and Lowry together this off-season with all their cap-room.

Chicago is interesting though with that Porter contract. DDR/Trey for Porter/Markenen works on paper. Unclear who would have to add the picks to make it work.

I love the idea of DDR/Trey for Porter/Markkanen, but, it seems like Luka has the potential to become a very similar player at a fraction of the price. Maybe Markkanen could help expedite Luka's growth. It would be a luxury to always have a 6'11" gut that can shoot on the floor.
Only 48 hrs to go!!!!

[mo7888]

I love the idea of DDR/Trey for Porter/Markkanen, but, it seems like Luka has the potential to become a very similar player at a fraction of the price. Maybe Markkanen could help expedite Luka's growth. It would be a luxury to always have a 6'11" gut that can shoot on the floor.
Only 48 hrs to go!!!!

I also think Lauri can play the 5 alongside Luka in certain lineups..

[B1gduff]

I wonder if we can possiablity get Demar to agreed to an extension with another team while accepting a trade.
I actually thing the Hawks are a perfect trade partners and also a team that could fit Demar's play style, With Youngs ability to stretch the floor.
If we can get Demar to agreed, it could also increase his trade value, and the hawks are a deep team.

Demar and Lyles
for
gallinari, Reddish, Okongwu, with one 1st round pick or if we can get another round pick.

I personally thing that Galli has more value to us than Bogan. The only issue is if the Hawks will be willing to send both Reddish or Okongwu and a 1st round pick

[BackHome]

Only thing about Lauri is he worse then White as far as he is made off glass. He is good when he is not hurt but that is like rare for him not to be injured and that is the real reason Chicago won’t sign him

[NK123]

Why destroy a team that is one solid PF away to become something respectful?

I think that Keldon should be our 6th man playing the 3 or the 2.
Samanic should learn on the spot by being our starting stretch 4 for now.
I respect Pop but the game is slowly lefting him behind. He no longer uses the roster the best way.
I don't like the modern idea of two 5 player rotations. Teams should have their best possible roster during the entire game.

This team does not need much else to be great. Just better and taller rotations plus a PF that is solid.
Hope Demar stays.

[gambit1990]

https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1374402294523912194?s=21

[CGD]

Why destroy a team that is one solid PF away to become something respectful?

I think that Keldon should be our 6th man playing the 3 or the 2.
Samanic should learn on the spot by being our starting stretch 4 for now.
I respect Pop but the game is slowly lefting him behind. He no longer uses the roster the best way.
I don't like the modern idea of two 5 player rotations. Teams should have their best possible roster during the entire game.

This team does not need much else to be great. Just better and taller rotations plus a PF that is solid.
Hope Demar stays.

bc it's not in the team's control. Sounds like LMA, Trey, and DDR are gone after this season. Dont know about Gay, he seems to enjoy the young guys and always has glowing things to say about the org.

[Mr. Body]

https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1374402294523912194?s=21

Lol. Trey, you're lucky to get a paycheck.

[duncan2k5]

So you say he's terrible, but then expect other teams to think the opposite so that they trade for him. Doesn't make sense.

There's a lot of dumb teams that make dumb trades....some owners only care about having a big name to put fans in the stands and not actually about winning

[duncan2k5]

https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1374402294523912194?s=21

Lol

[duncan2k5]

Even scrubs are demanding trades nowadays... Hilarious, tbh

[Dverde]

The Bulls have entered the chat

“There’s a faction of the Chicago front office that feels adding one piece such as DeRozan could push the Bulls firmly into the postseason, sources said,” wrote (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2937698-what-inside-sources-are-saying-about-nbas-top-buyout-candidates?share=other) Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report.

[cjw]

Him leaving as a FA doesn’t mean the Spurs get back nothing for him. There’s always the S&T route, and many suitors would need to do that.

[Chillen]

I would love for DeMar to be traded to Chicago. Yes, please happen.

If Spurs trade both LMA and DeMar they are obviously going all in on a rebuild.

[mo7888]

Him leaving as a FA doesn’t mean the Spurs get back nothing for him. There’s always the S&T route, and many suitors would need to do that.

Pretty much everyone would need to acquire him by a S&T except... Toronto, Charlotte, Miami, NY, and Dallas. If he goes to any of those we get nothing...or at most a TE if we are willing to give up a future 2nd.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Just means Lonnie and Vassell getting more opportunities. The team’s defensive ceiling would raise if vassell started

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Not a good look for free agents when you're top two vets, and ones with the best chances of getting into the HOF, want the fuck outta town. Not good at all.

[DesignatedT]

Gotta build through the draft. Get future 1sts. That’s how we build..

[gambit1990]

Not a good look for free agents when you're top two vets, and ones with the best chances of getting into the HOF, want the fuck outta town. Not good at all.
not to mention the demarre carroll situation...

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not to mention the demarre carroll situation...

That and Trey Lyles minutes are just fucking schizophrenic insanity.

Start him. Play him heavy minutes off the bench. Play well in both spots. Get praised by Pop. Then fail to sniff the court for the last 3 or 4 games when we are in the midst of 5 games in 7 days and could use his legs.

It's just increasingly clear to me, dating back to the unserious way he used Bryn, that the game or his ego has been detrimental to the team.

I'm now all on board to see Will Hardy or Ime Udoka run this club.

[spurs1990]

I gotta believe it's the contract that's driving DeRozan to part ways.

Per B-Ball Reference, this is what Tim Duncan made his last four seasons, in addition to the haircuts Parker and Manu took. Spurs MO likely won't fly with DeRozan
https://i.ibb.co/30qRq8L/Duncan-contract.png

Duncan was an All-Star in 2013 and 2015 btw.

[cd98]

I gotta believe it's the contract that's driving DeRozan to part ways.

Per B-Ball Reference, this is what Tim Duncan made his last four seasons, in addition to the haircuts Parker and Manu took. Spurs MO likely won't fly with DeRozan
https://i.ibb.co/30qRq8L/Duncan-contract.png

Duncan was an All-Star in 2013 and 2015 btw.

In fairness, those guys took discounts to put together a championship level team. They had the pieces. This team is no where near winning a championship. Maybe DDR takes a discount to play with a team ready to win a championship. But if he's on one that isn't, then I get him wanting to get paid.

[TD 21]

The thing is, they have 6 less losses than the Pelicans with 32 games left, so they can have their cake and eat it too regarding the play in or possibly (I doubt it) playoffs, especially if they acquire a secondary creator/shooter like Bogdanovic or Fournier, in a DeRozan trade.

The same applies if they acquire a big wing in it, such as Gordon or Porter Jr., which would free up trading Gay too (I'd imagine he'd prefer to be moved if DeRozan is traded).

But I'll believe they're making a trade when I see it. They probably haven't even done their homework with regards to whether an upcoming cap space team (namely Raptors) has interest in signing DeRozan, which would obviously destroy their leverage on the sign and trade front.



I also think Lauri can play the 5 alongside Luka in certain lineups..

Two string beans, who are mediocre and worse on the defensive glass, can't protect the rim and don't roll. Yikes.

[Dejounte]

Don't players usually get held out of games a day or two from being traded? DeMar isn't being traded.

[Joseph Kony]

Don't players usually get held out of games a day or two from being traded? DeMar isn't being traded.

Not always. Pretty sure Harrison Barnes got traded in the middle of a game :lol

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Like some poster said. If they promised him Championship runs and we don't have that, he was misled and should request a trade. We don't know. So I won't judge this guy atm. We'll see in the future.

Trey Lyles??? Muther fuckin' Trey Lyles??!!!! No one wanted Trey Lyles. He was promised that he'd go another year being able to avoid eating 2 for $5 Whoppers. He was picked up off the scrap heap after he couldn't crack the rotation in Denver.

Jeezus. Maybe we can trade him for Demarre Carroll.

[mo7888]

The thing is, they have 6 less losses than the Pelicans with 32 games left, so they can have their cake and eat it too regarding the play in or possibly (I doubt it) playoffs, especially if they acquire a secondary creator/shooter like Bogdanovic or Fournier, in a DeRozan trade.

The same applies if they acquire a big wing in it, such as Gordon or Porter Jr., which would free up trading Gay too (I'd imagine he'd prefer to be moved if DeRozan is traded).

But I'll believe they're making a trade when I see it. They probably haven't even done their homework with regards to whether an upcoming cap space team (namely Raptors) has interest in signing DeRozan, which would obviously destroy their leverage on the sign and trade front.




Two string beans, who are mediocre and worse on the defensive glass, can't protect the rim and don't roll. Yikes.

It just depends on the lineup they are up against. They can't play against just anybody but Lauri would be at least as good as Gay as a small ball 5 and the spacing they'd provide on the other end would open things up dramatically.

[r0drig0lac]

If the bulls rumors are true. Then you gotta think they want lauri markannen. Demar as a stretch 4 for them with lavine and Williams would be dirty.

The Knicks is an intriguing option too, a veteran scorer is what the Knicks need to solidify a playoff spot

OPJ + Lauri + pick

[Dejounte]

Lauri isn't ideal at the 5, but you gotta think... he probably would have done a shit ton better job than the travesty that was Rudy Gay last night.

[CGD]

OPJ + Lauri + pick

I think it’s Lauri or a pick, hard to see both unless DDR is 100 committing to return to CHI this summer

[BackHome]

I think it’s between Chicago and Atlanta and I think Derozz would sign off either one as long as they have a gentleman’s agreement on his next contract. And yeah I would definitely want a first from either trade that’s a no brainer

[gambit1990]

Don't players usually get held out of games a day or two from being traded?
:lol

[Down Under]

The constant reports would seem to be his agent trying to get an extension (previously) or getting another team to commit to him to get his extension. Everything the young players say about him, plus his body language around them, looks like he really enjoys playing here.

[Sugus]

Lauri isn't ideal at the 5, but you gotta think... he probably would have done a shit ton better job than the travesty that was Rudy Gay last night.


Ehh, idk about that, tbh. Like sure, he probably would've done marginally better than Rudy, just for the fact that Rudy is old as balls and shouldn't be anything more than a bench player, nevermind a 4th Q closer; but everything I've read and seen of Lauri points to him being a solid negative on defense. It's exactly the reason most Bulls fans aren't really torn about potentially losing him, despite how well he theoretically fits into the modern game with his player archetype. He doesn't box out, gets picked on, doesn't set good screens, and doesn't read PnR defenses well.

Having said that, I'll gladly take him in place of DD :lol but that's a given, and because I think the Spurs can develop him into something better than he is right now. If he can at least become a neutral defensive player, he can easily be hidden and complement Poeltl's game with his perimeter shooting. The Bulls' package is certainly the most enticing to me, if we were to trade DeRozan away...

[Chillen]

I think Bulls really want a star and DeMar is sort of a low budget Kobe. It would be a perfect fit as long as they keep Zach and don't gut the core of the team to much. I think for Spurs it's all about picks. How many future picks will the Bulls throw their way.

[spurs1990]

Don't players usually get held out of games a day or two from being traded? DeMar isn't being traded.

Usually being held out happens day of deadline which usually is mid-afternoonish. Spurs could get their money trade at the last second. Iirc Brent Barry for JR Smith did get agreed on but the paperwork didn't meet the cutoff time

[Mr. Body]

That and Trey Lyles minutes are just fucking schizophrenic insanity.

Start him. Play him heavy minutes off the bench. Play well in both spots. Get praised by Pop. Then fail to sniff the court for the last 3 or 4 games when we are in the midst of 5 games in 7 days and could use his legs.

It's just increasingly clear to me, dating back to the unserious way he used Bryn, that the game or his ego has been detrimental to the team.

I'm now all on board to see Will Hardy or Ime Udoka run this club.

Bryn Forbes has value in this league. He has a superior skill that he's using in Milwaukee. As a starter? Probably not.

Trey Lyles has no appreciable skills whatsoever. He was given his shot once LMA was removed from the rotation and utterly failed to make an impact. He wasn't even remotely as good, on offense or defense, as a guy from Croatia trying to find his place in the league.

Trey Lyles was on his way out of the league when the Spurs picked him up because of the Morris debacle. Lyles failed in Utah, he failed in Denver, two teams that value players of his 'skill set.'

Give me a break. Trey Lyles trying to request a trade or a new situation is absolutely laughable.

[Mr. Body]

Lauri isn't ideal at the 5, but you gotta think... he probably would have done a shit ton better job than the travesty that was Rudy Gay last night.

Oh God, I can't wait for this board to bitch incessantly about what a disaster Markkanen is on defense for the next five years.

[jjspur]

If Lyles isn't careful he may get let go for a buy out candidate, a player on a 10 day contract, or a G-leaguer with halfway decent stats.

[james evans]

nobody wants Derozen. We'll be lucky to a 2027 2nd round pick for him or Aldridge.

[RC_Drunkford]

If we are moving DeRozan we should definitely get a lottery pick out of it. I don't understand why the rumor is that he can be had for next to nothing. One would think with only 4 teams having cap space to sign him, the price should be a little higher. Anyway the Spurs should absolutely inquire about Myles Turner and John Collins. I think DeMar would make a lot of sense for Indiana.

[KobesAchilles]

Is it time to tank now boys? We are like a game out of 10th place. LMA gone and now DDR. My spidey senses are tingling boys! It’s happening! Another Devin Vassell :lol

[SpurSpike]

This is more media drivel designed to disrespect the Spurs tbh.

[Prime BEEF]

Is it time to tank now boys? We are like a game out of 10th place. LMA gone and now DDR. My spidey senses are tingling boys! It’s happening! Another Devin Vassell :lol
lmao

[rankingtear]

Oh God, I can't wait for this board to bitch incessantly about what a disaster Markkanen is on defense for the next five years.

[tim_duncan_fan]

It feels like the organization is behind common consensus rather than ahead of the game these days.

We probably should have ripped the band‐aid last year. Oh well.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

i love watching demar play (offense)

i'll be a player fan of his wherever he goes

[spursparker9]

Least to say, Demar still put up the numbers in these 3 years.

Kudos to him for his contribution

[SpurPadre]

DeMar was put in a fucked up situation, forced to fit in a team that was originally built around Load Management...and he's given it his best. He has clear flaws on the court but he'd be a great fit for certain teams out there as a second or third option. Whatever happens (very unlikely he gets dealt by the deadline), I wish him the best.

[Fusternino]

I still think splitting DDR/KJ at 3 evenly 24/24 makes a lot of sense and gets both away from playing the 4.

[cjw]

Pretty much everyone would need to acquire him by a S&T except... Toronto, Charlotte, Miami, NY, and Dallas. If he goes to any of those we get nothing...or at most a TE if we are willing to give up a future 2nd.

And a TE does little good if we operate under the cap as we’d have to renounce it to sign anyone. Though I guess they could sequence events to use space and keep Demar’s cap hold on the books (won’t have much space) and then S&T him. More likely they’re not using space if going this route.

[Excessive Egotist]

The Knicks have the expirings and cap space to easily absorb DDR. Does anyone think they'd give up Mitchell Robinson and the Clippers' first for DDR. Some scenarios net a 15M TE (which may amount to nothing). It's not my ideal scenario, but Robinson is a fine reserve big, an extra pick is always great, and a sizeable trade exception could be useful if take on salary through other trades.

Also, I wonder if the Spurs could land a couple picks in the next 24 hrs so that they may send three or four picks with Aldridge to Toronto for Siakim without completing depleting future drafts.

[Rito3d30]

I guess nothing will happen other than LMA being bought out,
Is it too late to tank now?:reading

[Dverde]

I guess nothing will happen other than LMA being bought out,
Is it too late to tank now?:reading

I think Spurs will get Al Horford or Kevin Love for LMA. I think they have other things in the works, but the other teams will do different trades. Probably Horford as OKC is loaded with draft picks to trade.

[PrimeMinister]

I think Spurs will get Al Horford or Kevin Love for LMA. I think they have other things in the works, but the other teams will do different trades. Probably Horford as OKC is loaded with draft picks to trade.

Horford expires before the 23 FA class and can provide defense and spacing in the mean time

I’m not jumping all over it- but honestly I wouldn’t hate it.

Trading for love would be to make the money work and facilitate taking their draft pick. Cleveland is all but confirmed paying 20 mil+ for JA annually and is going to be paying the tax for a team that right now is 11 games under .500 with years left on loves deal and more paydays coming up.

Cleveland dumping payroll is more likely than some would think

[offset formation]

Bryn Forbes has value in this league. He has a superior skill that he's using in Milwaukee. As a starter? Probably not.

Trey Lyles has no appreciable skills whatsoever. He was given his shot once LMA was removed from the rotation and utterly failed to make an impact. He wasn't even remotely as good, on offense or defense, as a guy from Croatia trying to find his place in the league.

Trey Lyles was on his way out of the league when the Spurs picked him up because of the Morris debacle. Lyles failed in Utah, he failed in Denver, two teams that value players of his 'skill set.'

Give me a break. Trey Lyles trying to request a trade or a new situation is absolutely laughable.

Why did Pop praise him then? Do you listen or readjust game comments from the players and coaches. After every single game he played? Can't have it both ways. Either he made no.impact or played well.

[baseline bum]

I think Spurs will get Al Horford or Kevin Love for LMA. I think they have other things in the works, but the other teams will do different trades. Probably Horford as OKC is loaded with draft picks to trade.

:vomit:

[Mr. Body]

Why did Pop praise him then? Do you listen or readjust game comments from the players and coaches. After every single game he played? Can't have it both ways. Either he made no.impact or played well.

Because they were trying to get the best out of him? Clearly didnt work.

[Mr. Body]

I would love Al Horford, tbh. A consummate pro, he's still a nice positive on both sides of the ball, which LMA is definitely not. He'd instantly improve the PF position and provide strength on the court and locker room.

But I think OKC are sellers here. They'd want something for him

[duncan2150]

I would love Al Horford, tbh. A consummate pro, he's still a nice positive on both sides of the ball, which LMA is definitely not. He'd instantly improve the PF position and provide strength on the court and locker room.

But I think OKC are sellers here. They'd want something for him

If they want to move him and his contract, they need to give at least a first. He has a massive contract and will take more than half of our cap space. I like him as a player but the contract kills any deal.

[MultiTroll]

I realize you were just posting the clickbait from the proffeshional 'baiters......


It’s Bleacher Report so take it with a big ‘ol grain of salt, but yea.

"The Spurs have 'made it clear' that DeMar DeRozan is available via trade, per JakeLFischer" spouts NBA Central and Fischer.
Yet the articles contain not one iota of Spurs source commenting on Demar being available via trade.

'made it clear' :lmao

[Kevin]

Horford's contact isn't very good. He's owed about 27 million a season for the next two years, turns 35 this season and is on the decline.

Still though, Horford and the Miami 1st the OKC will likely have of wouldn't be bad for LMA. OKC sheds his deal, Spurs get a pick and a decent big man upgrade.

[baseline bum]

Horford's contact isn't very good. He's owed about 27 million a season for the next two years, turns 35 this season and is on the decline.

Still though, Horford and the Miami 1st the OKC will likely have of wouldn't be bad for LMA. OKC sheds his deal, Spurs get a pick and a decent big man upgrade.

Is Miami's first worth $54 million to you? I'd take on that kind of money to get Cleveland's first but not for a later mid first Miami pick.

[Kevin]

Horford as a player still has value despite being over paid.

But you're probably right that OKC should add more. Lord knows they have picks to sweeten the pot.

[J_Paco]

Is Miami's first worth $54 million to you? I'd take on that kind of money to get Cleveland's first but not for a later mid first Miami pick.

I think the Cavaliers have too many needs to attach a first - round pick (likely top 5) just to dump Kevin Love. Do they have any extra first-round picks acquired from other deals?

I seem to remember them gutting their draft assets during the last LeBron era. Not sure I'd like either guy with those ridiculous price tags attached even if both would proved a need (if Love can somehow return to form).

[Dverde]

Horford's contact isn't very good. He's owed about 27 million a season for the next two years, turns 35 this season and is on the decline.

Still though, Horford and the Miami 1st the OKC will likely have of wouldn't be bad for LMA. OKC sheds his deal, Spurs get a pick and a decent big man upgrade.

Exactly. A low end first rounder would be my expectation. Then OKC will take on another bad contract next season with LMA’s expiring contract off the books getting another draft pick to replace the one they gave up. OKC playing 3D chess.

[CGD]

Probably best to try to do a ST with DDR in the summer when draft order known. I like the idea of testing the waters now though, to get a sense of the teams interested.

[BacktoBasics]

Is Miami's first worth $54 million to you? I'd take on that kind of money to get Cleveland's first but not for a later mid first Miami pick.

There is no amount of Cap relief that would have Cleveland giving up that pick. That pick is arguably the most valuable piece in their entire franchise.

[RC_Drunkford]

Why did Pop praise him then? Do you listen or readjust game comments from the players and coaches. After every single game he played? Can't have it both ways. Either he made no.impact or played well.

Cause Pop is an idiot who praises people for their character while ignoring how bad of a player they are

[RC_Drunkford]

I realize you were just posting the clickbait from the proffeshional 'baiters......



"The Spurs have 'made it clear' that DeMar DeRozan is available via trade, per Jake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=36033)LFischer" spouts NBA Central and Fischer.
Yet the articles contain not one iota of Spurs source commenting on Demar being available via trade.

'made it clear' :lmao

I forgot that that's how NBA teams operate. They tell the press publicly who they are trying to trade. Makes sense :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I like Horford. I don't like Horford's contract.

[Ocotillo]

I like Horford. I don't like Horford's contract.

Yeah, right now at this moment his presence in the rotation would be a welcome addition but with LMA, I am snake bit about guys that age with that many years left. What if he drops off suddenly next season, then you are stuck with paying out a large amount to dead weight or having to buy it out.

[Mal]

I think Spurs will get Al Horford or Kevin Love for LMA. I think they have other things in the works, but the other teams will do different trades. Probably Horford as OKC is loaded with draft picks to trade.

Why would Spurs take negative value in trade ?

[baseline bum]

There is no amount of Cap relief that would have Cleveland giving up that pick. That pick is arguably the most valuable piece in their entire franchise.

True, but there's a reason the Cavs are stuck where they are so can't rule out them doing something stupid. Or maybe being cheap and slashing payroll to ensure they get luxury tax shares just like Sterling used to do. Still can't believe they couldn't even make the Finals with the first seven years of LeBron's career. Even the Knicks could have put enough of a team around him to win the conference.

EDIT: Fuck, duh, 2007 Finals

[BacktoBasics]

True, but there's a reason the Cavs are stuck where they are so can't rule out them doing something stupid. Or maybe being cheap and slashing payroll to ensure they get luxury tax shares just like Sterling used to do. Still can't believe they couldn't even make the Finals with the first seven years of LeBron's career. Even the Knicks could have put enough of a team around him to win the conference.

I can definitely rule them out moving that pick for cap relief.

No amount of cap relief would return the potential to dig themselves out of the gutter more than the chance of getting the 1st pick in the draft... or even a top 3 or 5 pick.

[r0drig0lac]

lol horford

[BatManu20]

Don't players usually get held out of games a day or two from being traded? DeMar isn't being traded.

Not always. Remember when Harrison Barnes got traded during a game :lol

bdOxHxmitd8

[cjw]

Why would Spurs take negative value in trade ?

I think poster was saying that Thunder or Cavs would send picks back attached to one of those contracts. I don’t think the Thunder care though about moving out Horford if they have to pay to unload him. They can just be patient and let the clock tick.

[exstatic]

Yeah, right now at this moment his presence in the rotation would be a welcome addition but with LMA, I am snake bit about guys that age with that many years left. What if he drops off suddenly next season, then you are stuck with paying out a large amount to dead weight or having to buy it out.

We don’t need the cap room until 2023 now, and Horford is roughly the same age as LMA right now, but his play has IMPROVED this year. The only year when he wasn’t positive in both OBPM and DBPM was Hs rookie year. I would more compare his aging to Duncan than LMA, who never comes into camp ready.

[KingKev]

True, but there's a reason the Cavs are stuck where they are so can't rule out them doing something stupid. Or maybe being cheap and slashing payroll to ensure they get luxury tax shares just like Sterling used to do. Still can't believe they couldn't even make the Finals with the first seven years of LeBron's career. Even the Knicks could have put enough of a team around him to win the conference.

Ummmm we beat the Cavs in the finals in his 4th season

[baseline bum]

Ummmm we beat the Cavs in the finals in his 4th season

Shit :lol

OK nevermind :lol