View Full Version : Spurs Have Acquired Marqueese Chris from Golden State
BatManu20
03-25-2021, 02:17 PM
Per Woj.
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JuneJive
03-25-2021, 02:19 PM
Huh?
Chinook
03-25-2021, 02:19 PM
Shams has been missing today, so we'll see. Maybe playing with DJM again can get him to move closer to his ceiling
Robz4000
03-25-2021, 02:19 PM
They'll prolly buy him out too.
BackHome
03-25-2021, 02:19 PM
Damn BatManu with the goods :flag:
timvp
03-25-2021, 02:19 PM
Which Shams?
MoSpur02
03-25-2021, 02:20 PM
I’m assuming it’s for Lyles
Darius Bieber
03-25-2021, 02:20 PM
He’s the most un-Spur like player they could have traded for lol
MoSpur02
03-25-2021, 02:20 PM
For Cady Lalanne
BatManu20
03-25-2021, 02:21 PM
Which Shams?
Woj*
from one end of the bench to another
slick'81
03-25-2021, 02:21 PM
Dude had some promise years ago. Dont know whats happend since
Dejounte
03-25-2021, 02:22 PM
Game changer :lmao
Darius Bieber
03-25-2021, 02:23 PM
Also isn’t he injured and out indefinitely? Lol
gospursgojas
03-25-2021, 02:24 PM
Showed flashes in Phx. Project to keep Pop’s Alzheimer’s away.
DesignatedT
03-25-2021, 02:24 PM
Cady Lalanne lol haven’t heard that name in awhile..
JuneJive
03-25-2021, 02:24 PM
GSW saving money.
SpurPadre
03-25-2021, 02:25 PM
Dude had some promise years ago. Dont know whats happend since
It's because his now former teammates have turned the league into a 3 point shooting chuckfest.
RC_Drunkford
03-25-2021, 02:25 PM
They didn't trade him for Lyles, we got him for free
timvp
03-25-2021, 02:25 PM
Marquese Chriss out for the season with a broken leg. Basically, Spurs got paid to release him. Warriors save luxury tax money.
Holts get richer. Yay.
MoSpur02
03-25-2021, 02:27 PM
Yeah I was assuming it was for Lyles then it was tweeted out that it was for Lalanne.
TimDunkem
03-25-2021, 02:27 PM
I totally forgot he has a broken leg. :lol
Chinook
03-25-2021, 02:27 PM
Honestly, I would've preferred the team not do this, but it's not my money.
Nice to see the Spurs be sellers, but it's not nice for them to not get a basketball asset for being sellers.
murpjf88
03-25-2021, 02:27 PM
A 29% three point shooter and a 67% free throw shooter. He should fit right in.
SpurPadre
03-25-2021, 02:27 PM
Marquese Chriss out for the season with a broken leg. Basically, Spurs got paid to release him. Warriors save luxury tax money.
Holts get richer. Yay.
I thought there were rules against trading for injured players.
Joseph Kony
03-25-2021, 02:28 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao
YoungbuckMurray
03-25-2021, 02:28 PM
Is this guy even healthy?
RC_Drunkford
03-25-2021, 02:28 PM
:lmao :lmao :lmao we traded for a player on an expiring who's out for the season. Playoffs here we come :lmao :lmao :lmao
exstatic
03-25-2021, 02:28 PM
Some things are worse than doing nothing.
Be careful what you wish for.
Mugen
03-25-2021, 02:30 PM
:rofl
We need to see how much cash they saved on moving out Lyles + the Aldridge buyout, compared with what they took on for Chriss. That will dictate if they can go sign someone they actually need.
Look at the bright side - more playing time for Luka, if nothing else.
SpurPadre
03-25-2021, 02:31 PM
It's basically Pop just doing Kerr a solid.
r0drig0lac
03-25-2021, 02:32 PM
watch the Pop boys who spent their lives attacking this guy, say it was a great acquisition of patfo.
slick'81
03-25-2021, 02:33 PM
:rollin:lmao
Light
03-25-2021, 02:34 PM
Looks like they got paid to do GSW a favor.
BackHome
03-25-2021, 02:35 PM
BIO:
Ht: 6’9. Wingspan: 7.1
Age: 23
Draft: Selected first round 8th by Kings
Injury- Out for season - Suffered a right syndesmosis ankle injury with a right fibular fracture
8sy21vd
03-25-2021, 02:35 PM
Not so fast. Let's see what Chris can do with a broken leg before putting Eubanks back in the rotation.
RC_Drunkford
03-25-2021, 02:35 PM
We need to see how much cash they saved on moving out Lyles + the Aldridge buyout, compared with what they took on for Chriss. That will dictate if they can go sign someone they actually need.
Look at the bright side - more playing time for Luka, if nothing else.
Lyles is still on the team, they didn't move him :lol
LeBowen
03-25-2021, 02:36 PM
We're in the playoff hunt but we help our direct competitor shed luxury tax. :lmao
PATFO getting bent over, what a surprise.
ViceCity86
03-25-2021, 02:36 PM
Traded Pops Mensah-Bonsu to Warriors
mo7888
03-25-2021, 02:36 PM
We need to see how much cash they saved on moving out Lyles + the Aldridge buyout, compared with what they took on for Chriss. That will dictate if they can go sign someone they actually need.
Look at the bright side - more playing time for Luka, if nothing else.
Did we move out Lyles? If not we can waive him bit it won't save us money. He's not the kind of player that can afford to give us a discount.
Nice to see us helping GSW out. When are they going to return the favor?
Chinook
03-25-2021, 02:38 PM
So like this is the nadir for the franchise from an PatFO perspective. Making a deal that does nothing but saves the owners money feels about as bad as it could get. Makes you wonder how cash-poor the Holts are now and if the team is going to basically be the new Suns.
gospursgojas
03-25-2021, 02:38 PM
At least the spurs finally have a guy that has his own fight compilation on YouTube .
B1gduff
03-25-2021, 02:39 PM
This is probably a move for next year as he is out for this season. But still not a bad get, he's only 23, and was finally starting to turn a corner last year with the Warriors. He'll never be all-start but has the potential to be a solid bench player.
So like this is the nadir for the franchise from an PatFO perspective. Making a deal that does nothing but saves the owners money feels about as bad as it could get. Makes you wonder how cash-poor the Holts are now and if the team is going to basically be the new Suns.
This. New ownership is needed to fix what's looking to become (if not already) systemic problems in approach.
timvp
03-25-2021, 02:41 PM
So like this is the nadir for the franchise from an PatFO perspective. Making a deal that does nothing but saves the owners money feels about as bad as it could get. Makes you wonder how cash-poor the Holts are now and if the team is going to basically be the new Suns.
Not a great look, to be sure.
MultiTroll
03-25-2021, 02:43 PM
Cady Lalanne lol haven’t heard that name in awhile..
Any relation to Jack?
SpurPadre
03-25-2021, 02:44 PM
Not a great look, to be sure.
As I asked you before, aren't there rules against getting injured players?
Strategic
03-25-2021, 02:44 PM
Will he be able to sign with whom ever he wants at the end of the season?
Chinook
03-25-2021, 02:46 PM
As I asked you before, aren't there rules against getting injured players?
There aren't, at least not anything that would affect a deal like this.
LurkingSpursFan
03-25-2021, 02:46 PM
Traded for rights to Lady Calanne
This is probably a move for next year as he is out for this season. But still not a bad get, he's only 23, and was finally starting to turn a corner last year with the Warriors. He'll never be all-start but has the potential to be a solid bench player.
The Spurs have cap space, and Chriss doesn’t come with bird rights. If they cared about next season, they could just sign him outright then. This was purely cash grab by Holts.
spurraider21
03-25-2021, 02:50 PM
Per Woj.
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how much cash are these types of deals for? you send the spurs money so you can save money on the tax?
Chinook
03-25-2021, 02:50 PM
This. New ownership is needed to fix what's looking to become (if not already) systemic problems in approach.
Yeah, basically if the Holts can't afford to have a team anymore, they need to give it up. There's no way a modern club can't at least budget to the tax. I get this was a bad year and that next year won't be much better. But it's going to just become easier and easier to cheap out. It doesn't help that they're already selling off pieces to the team. Makes me think they're eventually going to be taken fast by someone who could move the team, and all of that trolling will end up becoming true.
timvp
03-25-2021, 02:52 PM
As I asked you before, aren't there rules against getting injured players?
No.
SpurPadre
03-25-2021, 02:52 PM
There aren't, at least not anything that would affect a deal like this.
Thanks.
Robz4000
03-25-2021, 02:52 PM
Yeah, basically if the Holts can't afford to have a team anymore, they need to give it up. There's no way a modern club can't at least budget to the tax. I get this was a bad year and that next year won't be much better. But it's going to just become easier and easier to cheap out. It doesn't help that they're already selling off pieces to the team. Makes me think they're eventually going to be taken fast by someone who could move the team, and all of that trolling will end up becoming true.
:lol I sure wasn't trolling with my comments. I don't think the Spurs will be in SA by the end of the decade.
Kurgan
03-25-2021, 02:53 PM
So like this is the nadir for the franchise from an PatFO perspective. Making a deal that does nothing but saves the owners money feels about as bad as it could get. Makes you wonder how cash-poor the Holts are now and if the team is going to basically be the new Suns.
Every article I've read seems to indicate the rich have gotten richer during the pandemic. Holtcat was already the 5th most wealthy family owned business in the Dallas/FtWorth metroplex back in 2016.
Chinook
03-25-2021, 02:53 PM
how much cash are these types of deals for? you send the spurs money so you can save money on the tax?
My guess is probably Chriss' remain money plus a couple hundred thousand bucks. Maybe SA drove a hard bargain and get a million or so.
Chinook
03-25-2021, 02:55 PM
Every article I've read seems to indicate the rich have gotten richer during the pandemic. Holtcat was already the 5th most wealthy family owned business in the Dallas/FtWorth metroplex back in 2016.
The billionaires on the whole, and those who own businesses in logistics and fast food and the like got richer. Those like Tillman whose money is in hospitality lost their shirts. You're right that construction probably didn't take that big of a hit. But I'm not sure if the pandemic helped it on the whole.
YoungbuckMurray
03-25-2021, 02:55 PM
We need to see how much cash they saved on moving out Lyles + the Aldridge buyout, compared with what they took on for Chriss. That will dictate if they can go sign someone they actually need.
Look at the bright side - more playing time for Luka, if nothing else.
Is it tho? Lyles is still here and LMA has been gone forever. Even Lyles hasn’t been getting mine. Trading Rudy would have gotten luka mins
Kurgan
03-25-2021, 02:56 PM
Not a great look, to be sure.
So classy of us to help the team that intentionally injured Kawhi in the playoffs in 2017, which eventually led to the falling out between Nephew and the Spurs.
MultiTroll
03-25-2021, 02:57 PM
Nice to see us helping GSW out. When are they going to return the favor?
Sipping wine and speaking woke politics.
timvp
03-25-2021, 02:58 PM
how much cash are these types of deals for? you send the spurs money so you can save money on the tax?
To use round numbers for example purposes, the Warriors would owe $3 million in taxes if they kept Criss so instead they traded him to the Spurs along with $1 million. The Spurs use that $1 million to buyout the $900,000 Criss has left. Holts profit $100,000.
Yeah, basically if the Holts can't afford to have a team anymore, they need to give it up. There's no way a modern club can't at least budget to the tax. I get this was a bad year and that next year won't be much better. But it's going to just become easier and easier to cheap out. It doesn't help that they're already selling off pieces to the team. Makes me think they're eventually going to be taken fast by someone who could move the team, and all of that trolling will end up becoming true.
:lol I sure wasn't trolling with my comments. I don't think the Spurs will be in SA by the end of the decade.
Multiple posters have said a move to Austin makes too much sense. Tech, PE, Elon, etc... make it a rich city. They could keep the brand and move the team to South Austin/Kyle/Buda (I don't think the distance from SA would be materially different than Auburn Hills-Detroit). But with several data points over the past few years, we're seeing a negative trend.
Chinook
03-25-2021, 03:00 PM
So classy of us to help the team that intentionally injured Kawhi in the playoffs in 2017, which eventually led to the falling out between Nephew and the Spurs.
Eh, helping GS wasn't the bad look. Helping them for something that can't be used for basketball at all, which is seriously just something to go into the Holts' pockets, is the bad look. For the first time in a long time (Red McCombs?) we saw the Spurs unambiguously not prioritize basketball with their moves. It's scary, because now we have less confidence that any subsequent move they make will be to improve the product. Like SA might not sign anyone and hang out near the cap, not to be flexible, but to be cheap. They might make a habit of selling off assets like second-rounders for money. It's potentially really bad, because fans won't stand for it, and that could easily be enough to force a sale and move.
slick'81
03-25-2021, 03:00 PM
Beyond shitty deadline where spurs couldnt find anyway to help a team that just got blasted by 30 points
spurraider21
03-25-2021, 03:01 PM
My guess is probably Chriss' remain money plus a couple hundred thousand bucks. Maybe SA drove a hard bargain and get a million or so.
To use round numbers for example purposes, the Warriors would owe $3 million in taxes if they kept Criss so instead they traded him to the Spurs along with $1 million. The Spurs use that $1 million to buyout the $900,000 Criss has left. Holts profit $100,000.
thanks fellas :tu
The billionaires on the whole, and those who own businesses in logistics and fast food and the like got richer. Those like Tillman whose money is in hospitality lost their shirts. You're right that construction probably didn't take that big of a hit. But I'm not sure if the pandemic helped it on the whole.
Well there is a big infrastructure stimulus coming so construction will be doing okay.
spurraider21
03-25-2021, 03:02 PM
Eh, helping GS wasn't the bad look. Helping them for something that can't be used for basketball at all, which is seriously just something to go into the Holts' pockets, is the bad look. For the first time in a long time (Red McCombs?) we saw the Spurs unambiguously not prioritize basketball with their moves. It's scary, because now we have less confidence that any subsequent move they make will be to improve the product. Like SA might not sign anyone and hang out near the cap, not to be flexible, but to be cheap. They might make a habit of selling off assets like second-rounders for money. It's potentially really bad, because fans won't stand for it, and that could easily be enough to force a sale and move.
vegas, baby
the silver and black franchises belong together. my username needs to start making sense
J_Paco
03-25-2021, 03:03 PM
So like this is the nadir for the franchise from an PatFO perspective. Making a deal that does nothing but saves the owners money feels about as bad as it could get. Makes you wonder how cash-poor the Holts are now and if the team is going to basically be the new Suns.
Yeah, this has been my concern all season. Not sure how the team can get an infusion of "cash rich" ownership without losing some integrity in the process.
timvp
03-25-2021, 03:03 PM
My guess is probably Chriss' remain money plus a couple hundred thousand bucks. Maybe SA drove a hard bargain and get a million or so.
There are multiple teams who could have done the same trade so it was a race to the bottom to see which team would do it for the cheapest amount. The Spurs won that race :lol :cry :lol
Should have extracted a 2nd on something.
Chinook
03-25-2021, 03:04 PM
vegas, baby
the silver and black franchises belong together. my username needs to start making sense
Man, a few years ago, it looked like the Spurs and Raiders might have united in SA. Now it could be the other way?
#XMasLives
Chinook
03-25-2021, 03:05 PM
Yeah, this has been my concern all season. Not sure how the team can get an infusion of "cash rich" ownership without losing some integrity in the process.
Oh shit, yeah. Didn't like a hedge fund or something buy into the team? Selling basketball assets to turn into cash is exactly the kind of shit that hedge funds do.
Spursfanfromafar
03-25-2021, 03:05 PM
Not a great look, to be sure.
Reminds me of the time the Spurs traded an injured Tiago Splitter to the Hawks to make way for LaMarcus Aldridge. Well, the Spurs are not the Spurs of Tim, Tony, Manu & RCB anymore.. thats for sure.
Chinook
03-25-2021, 03:08 PM
Reminds me of the time the Spurs traded an injured Tiago Splitter to the Hawks to make way for LaMarcus Aldridge. Well, the Spurs are not the Spurs of Tim, Tony, Manu & RCB anymore.. thats for sure.
What? No. This is very different. The Splitter trade was 100-percent justified. Heck, in retrospect, it would've been a great trade even if the Spurs hadn't signed LMA. It was a basketball trade. The goal was to make the team better. This, this is bad. Like there are dead canaries everywhere.
Degoat
03-25-2021, 03:11 PM
So will we buy him out or hold on to him?
Spursfanfromafar
03-25-2021, 03:12 PM
What? No. This is very different. The Splitter trade was 100-percent justified. Heck, in retrospect, it would've been a great trade even if the Spurs hadn't signed LMA. It was a basketball trade. The goal was to make the team better. This, this is bad. Like there are dead canaries everywhere.
I agree. I meant to say that the Spurs are doing what the Hawks were doing then. If Bud was doing Pop a favor, its now Pop doing good for Kerr.
TheGreatYacht
03-25-2021, 03:12 PM
PATFO taking it from the entire league :lmao
Poverty front office are bankrupting the Holts. I knew it was bad when FSSW said last night that they still had tickets available for tonight’s game. Can’t even sell out a Kawhi “revenge” game at limited fucking capacity. Good lord. Didn’t think it was cash considerations bad...
slick'81
03-25-2021, 03:12 PM
So will we buy him out or hold on to him?
Spurs have no interest in his ass
slick'81
03-25-2021, 03:13 PM
Spurs been dealing like a small market hovel for years now
DesignatedT
03-25-2021, 03:14 PM
Who the fuck wants to go sit inside a stadium with a mask on?
Its a year of the pandemic and COVID, give ownership a break until there's a pattern of this at least. Maybe GS called and asked them to do a favor or something.
Kurgan
03-25-2021, 03:15 PM
Oh shit, yeah. Didn't like a hedge fund or something buy into the team? Selling basketball assets to turn into cash is exactly the kind of shit that hedge funds do.
Good point. We give Mark Cuban shit all the time but at least he's spending money to make his team better on the court. Spurs future is looking very grim without any reliable ownership or franchise player to lean on.
GAustex
03-25-2021, 03:16 PM
The billionaires on the whole, and those who own businesses in logistics and fast food and the like got richer. Those like Tillman whose money is in hospitality lost their shirts. You're right that construction probably didn't take that big of a hit. But I'm not sure if the pandemic helped it on the whole.
Road construction did well. Quicker progress due to less competing existing traffic was the main reason.
Dverde
03-25-2021, 03:18 PM
GSW just used us as dead hooker storage.
Chinook
03-25-2021, 03:19 PM
Why do people keep framing this as a "favor"? That's not what it was. It was a transaction. The Spurs sold salary space they could've used for other players for a small bit of money that goes straight into the owners' pockets. They sold a basketball asset for a personal asset. Sure, we can wait until it becomes a pattern, but what if it's ALREADY a pattern, and we just haven't seen it until now? What if SA has been bypassing trades for a while now trying to save money? What if they didn't trade Aldridge because the owners valued getting his buyout over getting folks who could actually play for the team? We could easily see the Spurs passing up both on signing guys and on taking back bad money for picks because the owners want to save as much money as possible.
Sugus
03-25-2021, 03:22 PM
Why do people keep framing this as a "favor"? That's not what it was. It was a transaction. The Spurs sold salary space they could've used for other players for a small bit of money that goes straight into the owners' pockets. They sold a basketball asset for a personal asset. Sure, we can wait until it becomes a pattern, but what if it's ALREADY a pattern, and we just haven't seen it until now? What if SA has been bypassing trades for a while now trying to save money? What if they didn't trade Aldridge because the owners valued getting his buyout over getting folks who could actually play for the team? We could easily see the Spurs passing up both on signing guys and on taking back bad money for picks because the owners want to save as much money as possible.
We might be getting close to "old lady Greta publicly ranting about how bad the FO is" territory :(
Dejounte
03-25-2021, 03:22 PM
Why do people keep framing this as a "favor"? That's not what it was. It was a transaction. The Spurs sold salary space they could've used for other players for a small bit of money that goes straight into the owners' pockets. They sold a basketball asset for a personal asset. Sure, we can wait until it becomes a pattern, but what if it's ALREADY a pattern, and we just haven't seen it until now? What if SA has been bypassing trades for a while now trying to save money? What if they didn't trade Aldridge because the owners valued getting his buyout over getting folks who could actually play for the team? We could easily see the Spurs passing up both on signing guys and on taking back bad money for picks because the owners want to save as much money as possible.
You really expect much from people who don't know how a business operates?
RD2191
03-25-2021, 03:25 PM
You really expect much from people who don't know how a business operates?
Enlighten us, faggot.
Twisted_Dawg
03-25-2021, 03:25 PM
Wonder how much cash the Spurs received?
Chinook
03-25-2021, 03:26 PM
Let me put it this way: I am more disappointed in this trade than I was in the Miluntinov pick, and blood vessels in my eyes still burst whenever I think about that draft. Not to be dramatic, but this is the kind of thing that might actually affect my enjoyment of the team for the rest of the season. It's that bad, and that scary for what it could mean for the team going forward.
r0drig0lac
03-25-2021, 03:26 PM
:lol I sure wasn't trolling with my comments. I don't think the Spurs will be in SA by the end of the decade.
good
Dejounte
03-25-2021, 03:26 PM
Enlighten us, faggot.
Not worth explaining to failures like yourself whose greatest achievement in life is this forum :lmao
jjspur
03-25-2021, 03:26 PM
That's NBA accounting for you. The rich pay less taxes, the poor get screwed slowly.
TimDunkem
03-25-2021, 03:28 PM
Let me but it this way: I am more disappointed in this trade than I was in the Miluntinov pick, and blood vessels in my eyes still burst whenever I think about that draft.
You should jump in on that bet with ATL Spur. He still thinks Milutinov is coming over. :lmao
exstatic
03-25-2021, 03:31 PM
This is probably a move for next year as he is out for this season. But still not a bad get, he's only 23, and was finally starting to turn a corner last year with the Warriors. He'll never be all-start but has the potential to be a solid bench player.
No. He’s a jerk. GS would have sent the cash for us to cut him and pay off his contract. He has no role or future here.
Mugen
03-25-2021, 03:35 PM
Las Vegas Spurs back on the menu boys! Woo!
exstatic
03-25-2021, 03:35 PM
Let me put it this way: I am more disappointed in this trade than I was in the Miluntinov pick, and blood vessels in my eyes still burst whenever I think about that draft. Not to be dramatic, but this is the kind of thing that might actually affect my enjoyment of the team for the rest of the season. It's that bad, and that scary for what it could mean for the team going forward.
It’s a nothing burger. We have a roster spot. GS needs to shed ANY salary. They send us the cash to pay him off, we cut him, and that’s it. Nothing to have a meltdown about.
RD2191
03-25-2021, 03:37 PM
Not worth explaining to failures like yourself whose greatest achievement in life is this forum :lmao
No no, show us your credentials, how many businesses do you own?
Dejounte
03-25-2021, 03:40 PM
No no, show us your credentials, how many businesses do you own?
Yeah, like that would be smart for me to disclose :lmao
Let's do this all day, RD. It's fun going back and forth with an internet king such as yourself. :lmao
RD2191
03-25-2021, 03:41 PM
Yeah, like that would be smart for me to disclose :lmao
Let's do this all day, RD. It's fun going back and forth with an internet king such as yourself. :lmao
So nothing? Got it, you broke bastard. :lol
TheGreatYacht
03-25-2021, 03:42 PM
Joe Lacob wasn’t lying when he said his org was “light years ahead” of the NBA :lol
PATFO are supposedly responsible for the model franchise others aspire to be, and GSW see them as a cum sock. Finessed a 1st rounder for Stephen Jackson, use them as cap relief, sweep em in the playoffs, injure the franchise player..
Dejounte
03-25-2021, 03:42 PM
So nothing? Got it, you broke bastard. :lol
Yeah, I'm not so insecure about how much I make to need to defend myself on this one. Lmfao you're still in your mom's basement, internet king :lmao
RD2191
03-25-2021, 03:46 PM
Yeah, I'm not so insecure about how much I make to need to defend myself on this one. Lmfao you're still in your mom's basement, internet king :lmao
So nothing? :lol
Chriss has played well for the Warriors when he is healthy. For a second, I thought it was not a bad deal. But then I saw he was an expiring contract and he was out for the season, so I guess they are just going to cut him. He is a power forward/center and he did okay last season, but looks like just fodder. DJM can tell him the advantage of getting drafted and developed by the Spurs as opposed to the Suns.
Dejounte
03-25-2021, 03:46 PM
So nothing? :lol
Let's fill up these pages, fat fuck :lmao
Which other threads you want to go talk shit in? I'm down.
Chinook
03-25-2021, 03:49 PM
Joe Lacob wasn’t lying when he said his org was “light years ahead” of the NBA :lol
PATFO are supposedly responsible for the model franchise others aspire to be, and GSW see them as a cum sock. Finessed a 1st rounder for Stephen Jackson, use them as cap relief, sweep em in the playoffs, injure the franchise player..
Eh, the Warriors turned around and traded two first-rounders to dump RJ on Utah the next year. SA definitely won that deal.
Let me put it this way: I am more disappointed in this trade than I was in the Miluntinov pick, and blood vessels in my eyes still burst whenever I think about that draft. Not to be dramatic, but this is the kind of thing that might actually affect my enjoyment of the team for the rest of the season. It's that bad, and that scary for what it could mean for the team going forward.
I understand you’re frustrated and would have liked to sign someone else instead of taking on dead money just to get some cash savings.
But money is fungible. If the Holts save a few million this year, that’s a few million they can spend in the future. That’s assuming PATFO didn’t completely bungle this and put them into the tax if Aldridge and Lyles take on no money.
Anyone they would add for a minimum type deal wasn’t going to move the needle, and if anything was only going to take playing time away from young guys. That should be what the team is focused on.
They haven’t had real gate revenue in over a year now, and are one of the poorer ownership groups in the new NBA. I’m fine with them penny pinching a little bit here, when there was nothing they were going to do with the roster otherwise. But are still spending near the luxury tax when teams like the Knicks aren’t meeting salary minimums.
exstatic
03-25-2021, 03:52 PM
Joe Lacob wasn’t lying when he said his org was “light years ahead” of the NBA :lol
PATFO are supposedly responsible for the model franchise others aspire to be, and GSW see them as a cum sock. Finessed a 1st rounder for Stephen Jackson, use them as cap relief, sweep em in the playoffs, injure the franchise player..
The first rounder was for the extra year and $12M on RJ’s contract, and it was pick #30. I swear, some of y’all are so fucking stupid, not understanding about paying to offload salary. It’s like NBA 101.
RC_Drunkford
03-25-2021, 03:53 PM
made up some of the 6.6 million they paying Demarre Carroll this season
exstatic
03-25-2021, 03:55 PM
I understand you’re frustrated and would have liked to sign someone else instead of taking on dead money just to get some cash savings.
But money is fungible. If the Holts save a few million this year, that’s a few million they can spend in the future. That’s assuming PATFO didn’t completely bungle this and put them into the tax if Aldridge and Lyles take on no money.
Anyone they would add for a minimum type deal wasn’t going to move the needle, and if anything was only going to take playing time away from young guys. That should be what the team is focused on.
They haven’t had real gate revenue in over a year now, and are one of the poorer ownership groups in the new NBA. I’m fine with them penny pinching a little bit here, when there was nothing they were going to do with the roster otherwise. But are still spending near the luxury tax when teams like the Knicks aren’t meeting salary minimums.
Maeqees Chris is going to be cut, using the cash that GS would send in the deal. Once dickless is bought out, we’ll have that cash savings to use to fill the two open spots, and they will fill them. They have to, in the season of COVID.
Maeqees Chris is going to be cut, using the cash that GS would send in the deal. Once dickless is bought out, we’ll have that cash savings to use to fill the two open spots, and they will fill them. They have to, in the season of COVID.
I understand that the cash from the Chriss trade goes to pay his salary (plus a sweetener for ownership). They get more than Chriss will cost them, but less than GSW saves in tax.
But unless Aldridge and theoretically Lyles give up a decent amount, I don’t think the Spurs will have tax room to sign anyone else. They’re not going into the tax to sign someone to replace Lyles.
Aldridge’s buyout will almost certainly happen. Hopefully he gives up a couple million bucks that lets the Spurs fill out the roster.
Robz4000
03-25-2021, 04:03 PM
I understand that the cash from the Chriss trade goes to pay his salary (plus a sweetener for ownership). They get more than Chriss will cost them, but less than GSW saves in tax.
But unless Aldridge and theoretically Lyles give up a decent amount, I don’t think the Spurs will have tax room to sign anyone else. They’re not going into the tax to sign someone to replace Lyles.
Aldridge’s buyout will almost certainly happen. Hopefully he gives up a couple million bucks that lets the Spurs fill out the roster.
Zero chance LMA gives back any worthwhile money, especially as a favor to the Spurs.
exstatic
03-25-2021, 04:06 PM
I understand that the cash from the Chriss trade goes to pay his salary (plus a sweetener for ownership). They get more than Chriss will cost them, but less than GSW saves in tax.
But unless Aldridge and theoretically Lyles give up a decent amount, I don’t think the Spurs will have tax room to sign anyone else. They’re not going into the tax to sign someone to replace Lyles.
Aldridge’s buyout will almost certainly happen. Hopefully he gives up a couple million bucks that lets the Spurs fill out the roster.
I don’t think Lyles will be bought out. I also think we still have enough vets, so anyone signed will be a youngster on a tryout. Two years, in case they pan out. Second year, unguarateed, in case they don’t pan out.
exstatic
03-25-2021, 04:06 PM
I understand that the cash from the Chriss trade goes to pay his salary (plus a sweetener for ownership). They get more than Chriss will cost them, but less than GSW saves in tax.
But unless Aldridge and theoretically Lyles give up a decent amount, I don’t think the Spurs will have tax room to sign anyone else. They’re not going into the tax to sign someone to replace Lyles.
Aldridge’s buyout will almost certainly happen. Hopefully he gives up a couple million bucks that lets the Spurs fill out the roster.
I don’t think Lyles will be bought out. I also think we still have enough vets, so anyone signed will be a youngster on a tryout. Two years, in case they pan out. Second year, unguarateed, in case they don’t pan out.
objective
03-25-2021, 04:22 PM
Let me put it this way: I am more disappointed in this trade than I was in the Miluntinov pick, and blood vessels in my eyes still burst whenever I think about that draft. Not to be dramatic, but this is the kind of thing that might actually affect my enjoyment of the team for the rest of the season. It's that bad, and that scary for what it could mean for the team going forward.
Milutinov is a damn good player who would really help the Spurs a lot right now splitting time with Poeltl.
Picking him wasn't the problem, the way the Spurs handled it was. They had to room to get him his rookie year. And if they had spent the same money on Milutinov that they had on Carroll it wouldn't have been a waste of a season's MLE.
Considering how third-stringish Eubanks is and the lack of free agents to spend money on, Milutinov would still be a smart signing this summer.
NASpurs
03-25-2021, 04:43 PM
*deep breath*
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao
slick'81
03-25-2021, 04:49 PM
Milutinov is a damn good player who would really help the Spurs a lot right now splitting time with Poeltl.
Picking him wasn't the problem, the way the Spurs handled it was. They had to room to get him his rookie year. And if they had spent the same money on Milutinov that they had on Carroll it wouldn't have been a waste of a season's MLE.
Considering how third-stringish Eubanks is and the lack of free agents to spend money on, Milutinov would still be a smart signing this summer.
too bad the spurs jerked him around like scola
ace3g
07-17-2021, 03:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgNWRbWm5QU
lmbebo
07-17-2021, 09:16 PM
Maybe a flyer? I dunno, talent was there (I think). Worth signing to a guaranteed deal if he doesn't get money elsewhere
Fusternino
07-18-2021, 02:41 AM
Maybe a flyer? I dunno, talent was there (I think). Worth signing to a guaranteed deal if he doesn't get money elsewhere
Certainly helps to fill the 4/5 slot.
Sort of depends also on if Spurs sign Collins and/or S&T DDR and get someone like Kuzma back.
He has been rehabbing at the Spurs facility even though he's no longer under contract? Seems like DJ likes him a lot.
exstatic
07-18-2021, 08:23 AM
Why are we still talking about Chriss? He was released to make room for Dieng. The Spurs ONLY traded for him because GS threw a wad of cash their way. It was more than enough to buy him out, and still turn a profit, because we are not tax payers, and GS are repeat offender tax payers. Both teams came out ahead.
John B
07-18-2021, 08:40 AM
Why are we still talking about Chriss? He was released to make room for Dieng. The Spurs ONLY traded for him because GS threw a wad of cash their way. It was more than enough to buy him out, and still turn a profit, because we are not tax payers, and GS are repeat offender tax payers. Both teams came out ahead.
I think the last time I saw timvp posted, besides the grades, was after this deal. The Holts just went for some cash instead of making deals to make the team more competitive. Although I thought Dieng’s signing was a very good one
JeffDuncan
07-18-2021, 02:11 PM
I think the last time I saw timvp posted, besides the grades, was after this deal. The Holts just went for some cash instead of making deals to make the team more competitive. Although I thought Dieng’s signing was a very good one
Oh please. Anybody who thinks there was ownership involvement in a deal for Cady Lalanne is so feeble minded he should have court supervision of his personal affairs for his own good. Don’t be a moron.
It was Pop and Kerr doing each other a small favor. The Warriors got a little cap relief and the Spurs got a little cash. That’s all there was to it.
But yeah, be sure to slander the Spurs ownership every chance you get, to prove what a loyal fan you are.
buttsR4rebounding
07-18-2021, 04:02 PM
I think the last time I saw timvp posted, besides the grades, was after this deal. The Holts just went for some cash instead of making deals to make the team more competitive. Although I thought Dieng’s signing was a very good one
So when they signed Dieng and cut Chris it cost them money. You act like getting “some cash” is a bad thing and what evidence do you have that there was something available that the Chris move precluded? The shit offered for Aldridge wasn’t as valuable as the money Aldridge left on the table. There’s lots of things to complain about with PATFO, but this ain’t one of them.
exstatic
07-18-2021, 04:19 PM
I think the last time I saw timvp posted, besides the grades, was after this deal. The Holts just went for some cash instead of making deals to make the team more competitive. Although I thought Dieng’s signing was a very good one
You never want to turn down free cash, which is what GS was offering them. It would have cost GS about 3X as much to cut him as it cost us, because we’re not tax payers. That’s why the cash was included. It also doesn’t hurt to have done another team a favor. If we do some sort of deal with GS this summer, maybe it all rotates back to this “nothing” trade.
Ed Helicopter Jones
07-20-2021, 12:03 PM
You never want to turn down free cash, which is what GS was offering them. It would have cost GS about 3X as much to cut him as it cost us, because we’re not tax payers. That’s why the cash was included. It also doesn’t hurt to have done another team a favor. If we do some sort of deal with GS this summer, maybe it all rotates back to this “nothing” trade.
The "goodwill" aspect of this trade was the primary benefit of it, I believe. Right now, the Spurs only real trade partner is whatever team Coach Bud is on. The Spurs probably need to do a few of these types of otherwise meaningless deals just to try to get some traction for future transactions.
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