Shams: Spurs Buying Out Aldridge [Archive]

objective

03-25-2021, 02:38 PM

Joseph Kony

03-25-2021, 02:39 PM

100% as i expected. anyone who thought today would be different was really fooling themselves :lmao

MultiTroll

03-25-2021, 02:40 PM

Pathetic

cd98

03-25-2021, 02:41 PM

Going to need a more generous buyout on Aldridge than usual to stay out of the tax. More than they got from Carroll if I remember right

Wouldn't be surprised if Aldridge screwed them and refused anything less than a full payout. Maybe not likely, but the Spurs trading their way into the tax on a bungled deadline day fits with the front office. They'd be too classy and nice to refuse Aldridge.

Well Spurs don't have to buy him out. He can stay at home the rest of the playoffs. Plus Heat will be begging us to release him.

YoungbuckMurray

03-25-2021, 02:43 PM

Going to need a more generous buyout on Aldridge than usual to stay out of the tax. More than they got from Carroll if I remember right

Wouldn't be surprised if Aldridge screwed them and refused anything less than a full payout. Maybe not likely, but the Spurs trading their way into the tax on a bungled deadline day fits with the front office. They'd be too classy and nice to refuse Aldridge.
if Aldridge did that I would tell him to kick rocks and he can sit at home for the rest of the year. Spurs are becoming a joke. Stop being the nice guy and start being schrewd. Country club BS

Rocalcio

03-25-2021, 02:45 PM

I can't believe we couldn't get anything for him. Watching all these teams now fighting to get him for free like fucking vultures makes me sick.

BatManu20

03-25-2021, 02:50 PM

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YoungbuckMurray

03-25-2021, 02:52 PM

So who are the Spurs going to pickup on the buyout market?? Sorry that’s hard to say with a straight face lol

TimDunkem

03-25-2021, 02:53 PM

So who are the Spurs going to pickup on the buyout market?? Sorry that’s hard to say with a straight face lol
:lmao

Robz4000

03-25-2021, 02:54 PM

Called this before the season started tbh.

John B

03-25-2021, 02:55 PM

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And Aldridge becomes the hottest player in the market :lmao

8sy21vd

03-25-2021, 02:56 PM

This FO needs to buy out itself.

TimDunkem

03-25-2021, 02:57 PM

Called this before the season started tbh.
Based on the last few years you just knew they would fuck up and lose him for nothing. Next up: DDR max loyalty contract.

slick'81

03-25-2021, 02:57 PM

Called this before the season started tbh.

Trust the process...rinse ,repeat

slick'81

03-25-2021, 02:58 PM

And Aldridge becomes the hottest player in the market :lmao

spurs getting played per par

Budkin

03-25-2021, 02:58 PM

Alright, the Spurs FO officially needs a complete overhaul. This is embarrassing.

SpurPadre

03-25-2021, 02:58 PM

Welp, it wasn't supposed to end this way but after Fredo and his uncle fucked us good, this is what happens. LMA would've left the team with a ring if it wasn't for that piece of shit.

RD2191

03-25-2021, 03:00 PM

Welp, it wasn't supposed to end this way but after Fredo and his uncle fucked us good, this is what happens. LMA would've left the team with a ring if it wasn't for that piece of shit.

:lol no

cjw

03-25-2021, 03:02 PM

So who are the Spurs going to pickup on the buyout market?? Sorry that’s hard to say with a straight face lol

They don’t have luxury tax space to add anyone

Prime BEEF

03-25-2021, 03:04 PM

No shit

Kurgan

03-25-2021, 03:04 PM

The Batman and Robin of NBA front offices. Playing 4D chess with the rest of the league:

https://clutchpoints.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/San_Antonio_promotes_R.C._Buford_to_CEO_names_Bria n_Wright_as_GM.jpg

BillMc

03-25-2021, 03:07 PM

Is the number 12 retired by the Heat or Lakers? Do buyout players have enough clout to ask them to be unretired for their own ego?

slick'81

03-25-2021, 03:07 PM

Hope aldrdige appreciates spurs bending over backwards for his ass all these years

koriwhat

03-25-2021, 03:22 PM

Pop and the FO are nothing more than fools gold. Over the decades the scouting has been tremendous but the real culprits for our championships are no other than the big3 and only the big3. Let's be real, Pop didn't have much to do with all those championships. Pop can coach, no doubt about that, but having the big3 was the difference maker what made people believe Pop was the mad scientist behind the team and its success.

We keep allowing players to dictate if they will stay or if they will play and in the end we let them walk for nothing or chump change. Our Coach and FO are as soft as it gets and their collective IQ is dwindling away rapidly.

spurs1990

03-25-2021, 03:23 PM

Kurgan

03-25-2021, 03:29 PM

All you Spurs insiders - tell us who's calling the shots on player deals. Is it really Wright? A virtual shadow figure that not even some (most?) of us Spurs would recognize. I gotta believe Gregg is still the executive on who stays and goes.

Not an insider but it's gotta be Buford/Pop still calling the shots. Brian Wright is a glorfied scout/number cruncher. They had an article last summer where Buford barely let Wright talk to the reporter. It was pretty embarrassing for Brian, had the vibe of a parent holding their child's hand.

SpurSpike

03-25-2021, 03:38 PM

This is pathetic, LMA better give up a shit ton of money is all i gotta say...

Kurgan

03-25-2021, 03:48 PM

This is pathetic, LMA better give up a shit ton of money is all i gotta say...

LMA will give up $100, enough for the Spurs janitor to pack up his belongings from the locker room and deliver them to his house.

RD2191

03-25-2021, 03:49 PM

LMA will give up $100, enough for the Spurs janitor to pack up his belongings from the locker room and deliver them to his house.
:rollin

widowmaker

03-25-2021, 03:50 PM

Pussies

Degoat

03-25-2021, 03:52 PM

By the time LMA makes his decision the season will be over

poopbox

03-25-2021, 03:55 PM

But we have several deals in place :lmao

But we have several teams interested :lmao

But we want to do right by Lamarcus :lmao

This dude played like shit, got demoted, quit, went home, now telling the spurs to pay him all his money so he can go play for whatever team he wants :lmao

Wherever he goes I hope they ring :lmao

baseline bum

03-25-2021, 03:58 PM

Send Brian Wrong to Miami too, he's like the Trump of GM, everything he touches turns to shit.

Kurgan

03-25-2021, 04:02 PM

Send Brian Wrong to Miami too, he's like the Trump of GM, everything he touches turns to shit.

Are you telling me hiring the best and brightest from the Pistons front office was a bad move:

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/2d0e2c609548a5733db9b12bef0d639d35e45b54/c=133-958-1257-1593/local/-/media/2016/07/20/DetroitFreePress/DetroitFreePress/636046023178590666-DFP-0628-pistons-new-1-1-SGB6RTVI-L634962124.JPG?width=660&height=373&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp

baseline bum

03-25-2021, 04:07 PM

Are you telling me hiring the best and brightest from the Pistons front office was a bad move:

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/2d0e2c609548a5733db9b12bef0d639d35e45b54/c=133-958-1257-1593/local/-/media/2016/07/20/DetroitFreePress/DetroitFreePress/636046023178590666-DFP-0628-pistons-new-1-1-SGB6RTVI-L634962124.JPG?width=660&height=373&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp

Time to go hire from the TWolves next.

TimDunkem

03-25-2021, 04:08 PM

I would bet money that Brian Wright was friends with someone in Buford's family before he got the job.

dbestpro

03-25-2021, 04:08 PM

Look at the bright side. Keeping the vets and losing LMA for nothing will most likely result in a complete collapse for the team and a better draft pick.

Degoat

03-25-2021, 04:16 PM

They’ve officially bought him out

DAF86

03-25-2021, 04:16 PM

But Mr. Body told me the Spurs were getting buyers' attention :lmao

The complete and utter incapacity of PATFO when it comes to trades is really outstanding. I have never seen anything quite like it.

r0drig0lac

03-25-2021, 04:19 PM

This FO needs to buy out itself.
if some "experts" on the forum agree with everything the front office does, imagine the random fan, they have no reason to change.

Dejounte

03-25-2021, 04:30 PM

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1375198039426629632

Mal

03-25-2021, 04:30 PM

He left 7,5 mil. That's a lot

TimDunkem

03-25-2021, 04:31 PM

WE GOT 7 MILLION BACK :lobt2:

K...

03-25-2021, 04:33 PM

Move to las Vegas cancelled....viva San Antonio!

TheGreatYacht

03-25-2021, 04:41 PM

LMAlpha doing charity work :lma

PATFO is on pace to start auctioning 2nd round draft picks for cash at this pace..

Rocalcio

03-25-2021, 04:45 PM

He left 7,5 mil. That's a lot

If I remember clearly, Griffin left 13M$

DPG21920

03-25-2021, 05:00 PM

timvp - how concerned are you about this front office and Pop?

Chinook

03-25-2021, 05:09 PM

timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) - how concerned are you about this front office and Pop?

I'm not timvp, but I play one on TV.

The Chriss trade was still bad; there's no other way to slice it. Selling salary space for pure cash is something that usually only bad FO's do. The only way one could be okay with it is if the Spurs are going to use all of their remaining salary space on some acquisition. If they just sit on this salary space, the Chriss trade goes from bad to downright alarming.

However, if the Spurs do use the new-found MLE availability to play the international free-agent market early, it could restore a lot of my faith in PATFO's general competence. Folks might not remember that this year is going to have a later start to free agency than normal, but overseas (especially Europe) will still be on a normal schedule. This could create timing issues for many clubs who want to sign guys who are overseas and might be looking for new deals while the season is still going on here. The Spurs are one of the few teams with legit buying power that doesn't depend on the new year rolling around. If there is someone they like over there, they could face significantly less competition to sign them. As I said, there are prospects I've seen folks talking about. If that's the goal, then trying to Baynes them would be true 4D chess.

Likely, they don't sign anyone big and fill the last spots with vets or prospects who don't play while the Holts save even more money. That will be very bad. But there's hope again at least.

BatManu20

03-25-2021, 05:19 PM

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DPG21920

03-25-2021, 05:19 PM

I'm not timvp, but I play one on TV.

The Chriss trade was still bad; there's no other way to slice it. Selling salary space for pure cash is something that usually only bad FO's do. The only way one could be okay with it is if the Spurs are going to use all of their remaining salary space on some acquisition. If they just sit on this salary space, the Chriss trade goes from bad to downright alarming.

However, if the Spurs do use the new-found MLE availability to play the international free-agent market early, it could restore a lot of my faith in PATFO's general competence. Folks might not remember that this year is going to have a later start to free agency than normal, but overseas (especially Europe) will still be on a normal schedule. This could create timing issues for many clubs who want to sign guys who are overseas and might be looking for new deals while the season is still going on here. The Spurs are one of the few teams with legit buying power that doesn't depend on the new year rolling around. If there is someone they like over there, they could face significantly less competition to sign them. As I said, there are prospects I've seen folks talking about. If that's the goal, then trying to Baynes them would be true 4D chess.

Likely, they don't sign anyone big and fill the last spots with vets or prospects who don't play while the Holts save even more money. That will be very bad. But there's hope again at least.

Makes sense but that still doesn’t explain Carroll or getting nothing for any vets and losing them all for nothing.

Mal

03-25-2021, 05:20 PM

If I remember clearly, Griffin left 13M$

7,5/24 vs 13/60+ or something

Chinook

03-25-2021, 05:25 PM

Makes sense but that still doesn’t explain Carroll or getting nothing for any vets and losing them all for nothing.

Carroll was the worst thing the FO had done until the Chriss trade. It doesn't need to be lumped with everything. We all agree it's bad.

The Spurs want to make the playoffs this year. That's why they haven't traded their vets. They are using their value to go for the post-season. Any team that trade "something" for them would be trading for the exact same reason. Back when we all thought SA was a likely lottery team, your "lose them for nothing" attitude was a lot stronger. Now, it'd be pretty hard for them to miss the play-in at least. Clearly Gay, Mills and especially DeRozan have given value to the Spurs. Whether that's what you personally wanted is one thing. But by and large, that PATFO wanted (to competed for the playoffs while giving minutes to their youngsters) has been going off as well as they could've hoped.

Robz4000

03-25-2021, 05:33 PM

Carroll was the worst thing the FO had done until the Chriss trade. It doesn't need to be lumped with everything. We all agree it's bad.

The Spurs want to make the playoffs this year. That's why they haven't traded their vets. They are using their value to go for the post-season. Any team that trade "something" for them would be trading for the exact same reason. Back when we all thought SA was a likely lottery team, your "lose them for nothing" attitude was a lot stronger. Now, it'd be pretty hard for them to miss the play-in at least. Clearly Gay, Mills and especially DeRozan have given value to the Spurs. Whether that's what you personally wanted is one thing. But by and large, that PATFO wanted (to competed for the playoffs while giving minutes to their youngsters) has been going off as well as they could've hoped.

It won't be hard for them to miss the play-in game at all tbh. Pelicans will be right behind the Spurs in a few weeks and they still have a H2H match up in NO that'll basically count as two games.

RC_Drunkford

03-25-2021, 05:35 PM

I'm not timvp, but I play one on TV.

The Chriss trade was still bad; there's no other way to slice it. Selling salary space for pure cash is something that usually only bad FO's do. The only way one could be okay with it is if the Spurs are going to use all of their remaining salary space on some acquisition. If they just sit on this salary space, the Chriss trade goes from bad to downright alarming.

However, if the Spurs do use the new-found MLE availability to play the international free-agent market early, it could restore a lot of my faith in PATFO's general competence. Folks might not remember that this year is going to have a later start to free agency than normal, but overseas (especially Europe) will still be on a normal schedule. This could create timing issues for many clubs who want to sign guys who are overseas and might be looking for new deals while the season is still going on here. The Spurs are one of the few teams with legit buying power that doesn't depend on the new year rolling around. If there is someone they like over there, they could face significantly less competition to sign them. As I said, there are prospects I've seen folks talking about. If that's the goal, then trying to Baynes them would be true 4D chess.

Likely, they don't sign anyone big and fill the last spots with vets or prospects who don't play while the Holts save even more money. That will be very bad. But there's hope again at least.

that‘s a great point and would be a huge positive. This team needs some euro players. Are there any interesting players who could have an instant impact?

RC_Drunkford

03-25-2021, 05:37 PM

I‘m not so confident about this team making the playoffs. No 3-point shooters in the starting line up will be a big issue from here on. Teams have figured us out and Pop will have to change the starting line up if he wants to win games

Kurgan

03-25-2021, 05:39 PM

It won't be hard for them to miss the play-in game at all tbh. Pelicans will be right behind the Spurs in a few weeks and they still have a H2H match up in NO that'll basically count as two games.

Yeah, seriously. We have the second hardest remaining schedule and currently on a three game losing streak(soon to be four after tonight)

BacktoBasics

03-25-2021, 05:48 PM

Everything was going according to plan until that Morris twin started one of the worst domino effects we’ve ever seen.

SAGirl

03-25-2021, 06:18 PM

Expected. Thanks for sharing all the tweets folks.

DPG21920

03-25-2021, 08:50 PM

Carroll was the worst thing the FO had done until the Chriss trade. It doesn't need to be lumped with everything. We all agree it's bad.

The Spurs want to make the playoffs this year. That's why they haven't traded their vets. They are using their value to go for the post-season. Any team that trade "something" for them would be trading for the exact same reason. Back when we all thought SA was a likely lottery team, your "lose them for nothing" attitude was a lot stronger. Now, it'd be pretty hard for them to miss the play-in at least. Clearly Gay, Mills and especially DeRozan have given value to the Spurs. Whether that's what you personally wanted is one thing. But by and large, that PATFO wanted (to competed for the playoffs while giving minutes to their youngsters) has been going off as well as they could've hoped.

You’ve made your stance known. I just disagree. The youth got enough good mileage from these guys. Sa wasted every single asset and at a minimum they could have hedged some and still been just as competitive. Not like Derozan been a +

Chinook

03-25-2021, 09:28 PM

You’ve made your stance known. I just disagree. The youth got enough good mileage from these guys. Sa wasted every single asset and at a minimum they could have hedged some and still been just as competitive. Not like Derozan been a +

But this is the issue -- what you (or I) want doesn't really determine how well the Spurs doing at extracting value. You want the Spurs to "pick a direction". The Spurs want to ride out a gentle transition between their vets and young players. So when you're judging if they're succeeding or not, you have to use their standard instead of yours. That they're still in position to make the playoffs while so many of the young players have gotten minutes shows that they are executing their plan well enough to reach their goals. So they are getting value for their vets by playing them. They are using the value to accomplish the goal they set out before the season. It would be like saying that someone who uses a timeshare (if those still exist) rather than holding onto it or selling it is letting it go "for nothing". Like sure, if you can't accept that that week spent that the resort had value to the people who went, then they wasted it. But if you ask them why they did it and they're like, "Because we needed a vacation", they don't have to keep explaining themselves.

You "agree to disagree" with PATFO, not me. I REALLY don't feel like defending them right now. They've done some awful things recently, but of all the terrible plans they've had, this one is working out as well as they could've expected.

DPG21920

03-25-2021, 09:35 PM

Doing nothing is not a plan. They simply exist and let chips fall where they may with no extra work or attention to detail. And what they say doesn’t jive with what they do. It’s clear they are stuck in two worlds. That’s not a plan imo.

slick'81

03-25-2021, 09:39 PM

Spurs plan was to play it year by year and try to stay competitive for pop and his ego. It didnt work

DPG21920

03-25-2021, 09:42 PM

Spurs plan was to play it year by year and try to stay competitive for pop and his ego. It didnt work

That’s fine. I’m not reconciled with how trading would have hurt that plan at all.

slick'81

03-25-2021, 09:53 PM

That’s fine. I’m not reconciled with how trading would have hurt that plan at all.

Have to ask pop& co tbh. Everything since kawhai has been one huge cluster fck

ThaBigFundamental21

03-25-2021, 10:46 PM

daslicer

03-25-2021, 11:02 PM

Hard to believe the Spurs sank the value of Aldridge so much that they couldn't even flip him for a young promising player. Obviously Aldridge can't play a lick of D at this point, but the man can still average 15 ppg and heat up from time to time. He should have been traded months ago. What the hell is going on?

Agreed he's still a player that can get you 15-7 and like you said occasionally dominate a game. Aldridge will look a lot better once he signs with whatever team he agrees to sign with.