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timvp
03-31-2021, 11:52 PM
https://www.spurstalk.com/grades-san-antonio-spurs-sacramento-kings-game-45/

Better :tu

John B
04-01-2021, 01:12 AM
Thanks Timvp. Better defense from giving up 130 pts the other night and just 106 tonight. Great closeouts, switching and defending every position. I like our guys when they play great defense. I also like them taking it to the hole and earning free throw. great win. I hope it continuous tomorrow.

John B
04-01-2021, 01:19 AM
Tre has such a fast burst to the basket. He's deceptively athletic. All he needs to make those shots, which I don't doubt he would. Funny how on that last possession, he tried to pass to Reynolds to give him the TO instead. It didn't show on both their stats anyway :lol

Dex
04-01-2021, 09:09 AM
timvp, any insight on Jakob's free throw woes?

My eyes tell me that he has been trying to work on his form with Chip. It just looks very mechanical...like he is thinking through his steps instead of just letting it fly. As we know, anytime you make an adjustment to something you have done naturally for years, it's probably going to get worse before it gets better.

When his shot goes in, it looks pretty and has good rotation...he even got a kind bounce off the front of the rim on one free throw last night.

On the other hand, when he is off......yeesh, he is way off. Any player shooting off instinct alone should be able to at least hit the rim.

Dex
04-01-2021, 09:10 AM
Tre has such a fast burst to the basket. He's deceptively athletic. All he needs to make those shots, which I don't doubt he would. Funny how on that last possession, he tried to pass to Reynolds to give him the TO instead. It didn't show on both their stats anyway :lol

My understanding is that dribbling out the ball at the end of game goes down as a team turnover and doesn't affect the player who has the ball?

Dex
04-01-2021, 09:41 AM
1377460015842304004

Pop not holding back.

PrimeMinister
04-01-2021, 10:00 AM
Bigs with long, slow shots at the line are the ones that seem to struggle. More time to overthink the mechanics in game.

he needs a change of routine or to adopt the Duncan stare down with the hoop followed by an abrupt 2x speed motion to eliminate any possibility of alligator arming the mechanics

his mechanics and touch aren’t terrible. There’s just no consistency to the motion because it’s so long.

John B
04-01-2021, 10:23 AM
1377460015842304004

Pop not holding back.

Yup that was pretty direct, no improvement since the day he got here. And this with Chip who has been nothing less than the reknowned guru of shooting

KobesAchilles
04-01-2021, 10:38 AM
Yup that was pretty direct, no improvement since the day he got here. And this with Chip who has been nothing less than the reknowned guru of shooting
Dude doesn’t put in any work during the off-season. No real surprises about his free throw shooting. I’m glad Pop is calling him out.

SpursDynasty85
04-01-2021, 10:47 AM
Yup that was pretty direct, no improvement since the day he got here. And this with Chip who has been nothing less than the reknowned guru of shooting

It's historically bad. I keep thinking he should try it one handed. If he is that bad at it, there is no way this could hurt imo. Also, he could try to bank every shot. That would be both hilarious and should be a real consideration.

rjv
04-01-2021, 10:56 AM
amazing what some decent outside shooting can do for this team. and metu is still finding ways to be a detriment to the spurs.

Darius Bieber
04-01-2021, 11:06 AM
When you have Chip Engelland on your staff, there is no reason ANYONE's FT % should be below 75%, let alone airballing two consecutive FTs in a professional game. That doesn't even happen in girl's Middle School B Team games. Jesus Christ.

Dejounte
04-01-2021, 11:08 AM
Poeltl is just the easiest target, isn't he? :lmao

On a night when he was one of the best players, people still find a way to complain.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
04-01-2021, 11:11 AM
granny shot jak. granny shot.

John B
04-01-2021, 11:38 AM
Poeltl is just the easiest target, isn't he? :lmao

On a night when he was one of the best players, people still find a way to complain.

Not just the fans. Even Pop himself is calling him out. I mean yeah he works hard, he said. But does he really? It seems like just a gesture not to totally alienate his starting C. Look the signing of Dieng is obviously not an accident. Dieng can shoot and contrary to what Poeltl can do. And to have his poor FT make the starting C not playeable in the 4th and closing period IS somrthing needed yo be addressed. This is precisely what this discussion is about.

Collins21
04-01-2021, 11:50 AM
Poeltl is just the easiest target, isn't he? :lmao

On a night when he was one of the best players, people still find a way to complain.

When LMA was on the team his closeouts and defensive mistakes were pointed out all the time and rightfully so. Now that Poetl who yall like to swallow is being criticize now it's "picking on him"

Dejounte
04-01-2021, 11:51 AM
Not just the fans. Even Pop himself is calling him out. I mean yeah he works hard, he said. But does he really? It seems like just a gesture not to totally alienate his starting C. Look the signing of Dieng is obviously not an accident. Dieng can shoot and contrary to what Poeltl can do. And to have his poor FT make the starting C not playeable in the 4th and closing period IS somrthing needed yo be addressed. This is precisely what this discussion is about.

There was more praise from Pop and the other players interviewed last night than criticism. Pop was asked the question, he gave an answer. Poeltl is what he is, and he's been improving on his rolls and overall offense yet people still expect a back to the basket game + free throws from one of the lowest paid starting centers in the league. This Spurs team has bigger problems than Poeltl and the center rotation, especially if Dieng's injury is minor.

Dejounte
04-01-2021, 11:53 AM
When LMA was on the team his closeouts and defensive mistakes were pointed out all the time and rightfully so. Now that Poetl who yall like to swallow is being criticize now it's "picking on him"

I'm not even a huge Poeltl defender, but how is this even a comparison? LMA gave up so many more points as a poor defender than the points Poeltl gives up from being bad at free throws. LMA's offense didn't even make up for his bad defense. Poeltl's defense makes up for his poor offense.

John B
04-01-2021, 12:07 PM
There was more praise from Pop and the other players interviewed last night than criticism. Pop was asked the question, he gave an answer. Poeltl is what he is, and he's been improving on his rolls and overall offense yet people still expect a back to the basket game + free throws from one of the lowest paid starting centers in the league. This Spurs team has bigger problems than Poeltl and the center rotation, especially if Dieng's injury is minor.

Poeltl is the starting C. He wanted the job and he got the job. I think it's good that people are noticing his awful FT and fouling him forcefully, if that would get him work harder on his free throws. Chris Dudley has worst form, but has better FT percentage :lmao. Our starting C is shooting 38%.

rjv
04-01-2021, 12:14 PM
I'm not even a huge Poeltl defender, but how is this even a comparison? LMA gave up so many more points as a poor defender than the points Poeltl gives up from being bad at free throws. LMA's offense didn't even make up for his bad defense. Poeltl's defense makes up for his poor offense.

i like poeltl and he does get slammed on ST, but usually by the same ST posters that think manu was overrated so...you know. but i'd still prefer that poeltl was a back up or spot player; he's ideal for certain situations and not so much for others. and what he does well, he does very well; what he does poorly, he does quite poorly.

Sugus
04-01-2021, 12:20 PM
Poeltl is the starting C. He wanted the job and he got the job. I think it's good that people are noticing his awful FT and fouling him forcefully, if that would get him work harder on his free throws. Chris Dudley has worst form, but has better FT percentage :lmao. Our starting C is shooting 38%.

I don't disagree, and like that Pop was asked that question and answered truthfully. It tells us that the coaching staff has definitely noticed this is an ongoing trend, and that they're taking steps to work on it. What I do disagree with, is posters expecting the issue to be solved overnight, when it's not realistic. Players usually don't work on their games during a season, and especially so during a schedule as condensed as the Spurs' to end this one - Jakob will probably go through some form of "getting locked up in the gym till he hits 100 FTs in a row", but we're not gonna get that until the off-season at the earliest. As Dex says, it's probably gonna get worse before it gets better...

And it's a damn shame that the bad FT shooting shadows over the rest of his amazing game, and leads posters to stupidly think he hasn't improved on or worked on his offense. He's getting noticeably better, to the point that the fact that he has a double-double isn't even a passing mention for him anymore. Of course we're gonna hear all about it from ST Experts™ once he has a 4pt game though, but that's just how it is I guess. He has to get better at FTs, no doubt.

ragas
04-01-2021, 12:26 PM
I'm not even a huge Poeltl defender, but how is this even a comparison? LMA gave up so many more points as a poor defender than the points Poeltl gives up from being bad at free throws. LMA's offense didn't even make up for his bad defense. Poeltl's defense makes up for his poor offense.

It’s a problem if he wants to be the starting/closing 5. And I won’t defend shooting ft so poorly... even as an Austrian. No f*** way. He should throw it at the backboard to bank some in at least, but please... no airballs ever again.

ragas
04-01-2021, 12:32 PM
I don't disagree, and like that Pop was asked that question and answered truthfully. It tells us that the coaching staff has definitely noticed this is an ongoing trend, and that they're taking steps to work on it. What I do disagree with, is posters expecting the issue to be solved overnight, when it's not realistic. Players usually don't work on their games during a season, and especially so during a schedule as condensed as the Spurs' to end this one - Jakob will probably go through some form of "getting locked up in the gym till he hits 100 FTs in a row", but we're not gonna get that until the off-season at the earliest. As Dex says, it's probably gonna get worse before it gets better...

And it's a damn shame that the bad FT shooting shadows over the rest of his amazing game, and leads posters to stupidly think he hasn't improved on or worked on his offense. He's getting noticeably better, to the point that the fact that he has a double-double isn't even a passing mention for him anymore. Of course we're gonna hear all about it from ST Experts™ once he has a 4pt game though, but that's just how it is I guess. He has to get better at FTs, no doubt.

I like what you’re saying and hope for the best. But I also think he only has this offseason to show an improvement - if not, his days as a starter are over.

John B
04-01-2021, 12:41 PM
I don't disagree, and like that Pop was asked that question and answered truthfully. It tells us that the coaching staff has definitely noticed this is an ongoing trend, and that they're taking steps to work on it. What I do disagree with, is posters expecting the issue to be solved overnight, when it's not realistic. Players usually don't work on their games during a season, and especially so during a schedule as condensed as the Spurs' to end this one - Jakob will probably go through some form of "getting locked up in the gym till he hits 100 FTs in a row", but we're not gonna get that until the off-season at the earliest. As Dex says, it's probably gonna get worse before it gets better...

And it's a damn shame that the bad FT shooting shadows over the rest of his amazing game, and leads posters to stupidly think he hasn't improved on or worked on his offense. He's getting noticeably better, to the point that the fact that he has a double-double isn't even a passing mention for him anymore. Of course we're gonna hear all about it from ST Experts™ once he has a 4pt game though, but that's just how it is I guess. He has to get better at FTs, no doubt.

I think it gets magnified with Chip in the coaching staff.

The Truth #6
04-01-2021, 12:56 PM
I’m surprised no one is clamoring for Metu. I mean, he looked way better on the Kings. Not great, and still sort of a moron, and 2nd stringer at best, but his outside shot looked honest. Maybe he’s comfortable being back in Cali. But it’s annoying that his potential was never realized on the Spurs. Not a huge issue. But he could help the team in theory. In practice, another player to steal minutes from Luka perhaps, sure. Still.

Sugus
04-01-2021, 12:57 PM
I think it gets magnified with Chip in the coaching staff.

For sure. I don't understand why people expect the sole presence of Chip to magically alter or improve every single one of our players' shooting touches. It's become to the point where people outright dismiss the idea that getting a player who has a bad shooting form is a negative, because "oh, just lock him up with Chip and he'll fix it right up". Not realistic. It also doesn't take into account how much work is actually required to modify something as fundamentally mechanic (and learned through innumerable repetitions) as a shooting motion, with people expecting players like Jakob to "just improve" or "just get in the gym!!", and it's exacerbated after a bad shooting night. On that topic... I was gonna make a separate comment, but what gives.

https://i.imgur.com/GnT3Unn.jpeg

Here's Jakob's shooting motion for one of last night's FTs. I tried to find footage of him shooting from a couple years ago, but it's incredibly hard to find full game highlights of his (unsurprising as he's a defense-first roleplayer) and especially ones that feature him shooting free throws. Anyways. You can see that his right hand has the motion down, and he brings the ball down with both his hands, but at the moment of shooting, his left hand inexplicably goes off to the side and stops participating in the motion. This leads to a really high variance on the shots, which is exactly what we've been seeing. The rest of his shooting form and posture don't look bad whatsoever:

https://i.imgur.com/0fgBjqv.jpeg

Set feet, good posture, follow-through after the shot. All normal aspects of the motion are there, except for the guiding off-hand. It's such a ridiculously noticeable mistake that I really can't believe Chip is watching him shoot like that at practices, and doesn't take him aside to beat that habit out of him... Anyways, I'm expecting his form to keep on changing, and hopefully "fixing" his FTs doesn't hinder his floater shooting, because he's extremely good on those shots. We'll have to wait until the off-season to see whether he gets noticeably better.

RD2191
04-01-2021, 01:01 PM
Poeltl is just the easiest target, isn't he? :lmao

On a night when he was one of the best players, people still find a way to complain.
Free throws matter, fukin tard. He isn't shaq, bum ass needs to learn how to make a shot or he can gtfo.

Spurs Homer
04-01-2021, 01:02 PM
I’m surprised no one is clamoring for Metu. I mean, he looked way better on the Kings. Not great, and still sort of a moron, and 2nd stringer at best, but his outside shot looked honest. Maybe he’s comfortable being back in Cali. But it’s annoying that his potential was never realized on the Spurs. Not a huge issue. But he could help the team in theory. In practice, another player to steal minutes from Luka perhaps, sure. Still.


i always thought -and still do

that Metu should have stayed and Ewwwbanks should have gone-

but ...

Dejounte
04-01-2021, 01:03 PM
Free throws matter, fukin tard. He isn't shaq, bum ass needs to learn how to make a shot or he can gtfo.

Love when I trigger your dumbass :lmao

John B
04-01-2021, 01:07 PM
For sure. I don't understand why people expect the sole presence of Chip to magically alter or improve every single one of our players' shooting touches. It's become to the point where people outright dismiss the idea that getting a player who has a bad shooting form is a negative, because "oh, just lock him up with Chip and he'll fix it right up". Not realistic. It also doesn't take into account how much work is actually required to modify something as fundamentally mechanic (and learned through innumerable repetitions) as a shooting motion, with people expecting players like Jakob to "just improve" or "just get in the gym!!", and it's exacerbated after a bad shooting night. On that topic... I was gonna make a separate comment, but what gives.

https://i.imgur.com/GnT3Unn.jpeg

Here's Jakob's shooting motion for one of last night's FTs. I tried to find footage of him shooting from a couple years ago, but it's incredibly hard to find full game highlights of his (unsurprising as he's a defense-first roleplayer) and especially ones that feature him shooting free throws. Anyways. You can see that his right hand has the motion down, and he brings the ball down with both his hands, but at the moment of shooting, his left hand inexplicably goes off to the side and stops participating in the motion. This leads to a really high variance on the shots, which is exactly what we've been seeing. The rest of his shooting form and posture don't look bad whatsoever:

https://i.imgur.com/0fgBjqv.jpeg

Set feet, good posture, follow-through after the shot. All normal aspects of the motion are there, except for the guiding off-hand. It's such a ridiculously noticeable mistake that I really can't believe Chip is watching him shoot like that at practices, and doesn't take him aside to beat that habit out of him... Anyways, I'm expecting his form to keep on changing, and hopefully "fixing" his FTs doesn't hinder his floater shooting, because he's extremely good on those shots. We'll have to wait until the off-season to see whether he gets noticeably better.

Thanks bruh. I also see DJ and Fox maybe betting that Poeltl doesn't make it and who gets the rebound? And Metu noticeably chuckling in the bench? :lol

But great observation. His left hand prematurely separating makes this more of a one-handed shot

John B
04-01-2021, 01:12 PM
i always thought -and still do

that Metu should have stayed and Ewwwbanks should have gone-

but ...

Nah man. Ewwbanks bring more energy than Metu EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, not just playing against a former team. And did you see how many silly things Metu does? His first play, I think he forcibly took a rebound from Fox's hands. I remember because I thought that was silly.

RD2191
04-01-2021, 01:16 PM
Love when I trigger your dumbass :lmao
Yeah ok, faggot.

Fusternino
04-01-2021, 01:20 PM
I don't his hand is coming off early. It looks more like the ball stays in contact with palm for a really long time rather than coming off his fingers, so he has no control where it actually goes.


And I've always been of the mind that Metu never got a fair look. He would allow us to play two bigs by being either a small ball 5 or stretch 4..

Dejounte
04-01-2021, 01:29 PM
Yeah ok, faggot.

Haha okay shithead :lmao

The Truth #6
04-01-2021, 02:09 PM
For sure. I don't understand why people expect the sole presence of Chip to magically alter or improve every single one of our players' shooting touches. It's become to the point where people outright dismiss the idea that getting a player who has a bad shooting form is a negative, because "oh, just lock him up with Chip and he'll fix it right up". Not realistic. It also doesn't take into account how much work is actually required to modify something as fundamentally mechanic (and learned through innumerable repetitions) as a shooting motion, with people expecting players like Jakob to "just improve" or "just get in the gym!!", and it's exacerbated after a bad shooting night. On that topic... I was gonna make a separate comment, but what gives.

https://i.imgur.com/GnT3Unn.jpeg

Here's Jakob's shooting motion for one of last night's FTs. I tried to find footage of him shooting from a couple years ago, but it's incredibly hard to find full game highlights of his (unsurprising as he's a defense-first roleplayer) and especially ones that feature him shooting free throws. Anyways. You can see that his right hand has the motion down, and he brings the ball down with both his hands, but at the moment of shooting, his left hand inexplicably goes off to the side and stops participating in the motion. This leads to a really high variance on the shots, which is exactly what we've been seeing. The rest of his shooting form and posture don't look bad whatsoever:

https://i.imgur.com/0fgBjqv.jpeg

Set feet, good posture, follow-through after the shot. All normal aspects of the motion are there, except for the guiding off-hand. It's such a ridiculously noticeable mistake that I really can't believe Chip is watching him shoot like that at practices, and doesn't take him aside to beat that habit out of him... Anyways, I'm expecting his form to keep on changing, and hopefully "fixing" his FTs doesn't hinder his floater shooting, because he's extremely good on those shots. We'll have to wait until the off-season to see whether he gets noticeably better.

Nice work breaking down the images.

Here's my interpretation of what is going on with Yak and Chip. From prior stories of how Chip fixed Parker's shot, Chip started with what Parker was comfortable with, which was sort of his teardrop/push shot, and tried to utilize that motion as a way to evolve towards an actual jump shot.

I'm just speculating on a hypothesis here, but my guess is that Chip is trying to the same approach with Yak, because that one handed push is the only shot he normally tries in a game, though obviously from a few feet out. A further guess is that Yak is so bad at moving beyond this stage that Chip still has him trying to use his natural push shot while shooting free throws. Anyway, that's my vague theory. I think it would be malpractice if Chip wasn't aware of how he shoots them one-handed.

ragas
04-01-2021, 02:09 PM
For sure. I don't understand why people expect the sole presence of Chip to magically alter or improve every single one of our players' shooting touches. It's become to the point where people outright dismiss the idea that getting a player who has a bad shooting form is a negative, because "oh, just lock him up with Chip and he'll fix it right up". Not realistic. It also doesn't take into account how much work is actually required to modify something as fundamentally mechanic (and learned through innumerable repetitions) as a shooting motion, with people expecting players like Jakob to "just improve" or "just get in the gym!!", and it's exacerbated after a bad shooting night. On that topic... I was gonna make a separate comment, but what gives.

https://i.imgur.com/GnT3Unn.jpeg

Here's Jakob's shooting motion for one of last night's FTs. I tried to find footage of him shooting from a couple years ago, but it's incredibly hard to find full game highlights of his (unsurprising as he's a defense-first roleplayer) and especially ones that feature him shooting free throws. Anyways. You can see that his right hand has the motion down, and he brings the ball down with both his hands, but at the moment of shooting, his left hand inexplicably goes off to the side and stops participating in the motion. This leads to a really high variance on the shots, which is exactly what we've been seeing. The rest of his shooting form and posture don't look bad whatsoever:

https://i.imgur.com/0fgBjqv.jpeg

Set feet, good posture, follow-through after the shot. All normal aspects of the motion are there, except for the guiding off-hand. It's such a ridiculously noticeable mistake that I really can't believe Chip is watching him shoot like that at practices, and doesn't take him aside to beat that habit out of him... Anyways, I'm expecting his form to keep on changing, and hopefully "fixing" his FTs doesn't hinder his floater shooting, because he's extremely good on those shots. We'll have to wait until the off-season to see whether he gets noticeably better.

I think his main problem is that he gets too low and his up movement is too shaky for a stable shot. Sometimes he lifts his heels, the left hand is also part of this, but probably not the main reason.

for comparision a game from 2017: https://youtu.be/YVZPB_MF09o (47s mark)
He didn’t get so low and shot 5/7 or something in the game.

The Truth #6
04-01-2021, 02:12 PM
i always thought -and still do

that Metu should have stayed and Ewwwbanks should have gone-

but ...

If Metu can continue to hit from the top of the key he will stay in the league for a while at least. But with the Spurs he sucked and I can't say otherwise. But yeah, it would be nice to have a center who can shoot. We do but now he's injured.

ragas
04-01-2021, 02:18 PM
I found a clip with some ft when he played for the Utes and shot 69%. This proves me wrong about getting too low, but...

https://youtu.be/oBP2yt0LG8Y


https://youtu.be/oBP2yt0LG8Y

...Looking way more fluid and confident.

PhantomDashCam
04-01-2021, 02:19 PM
https://youtu.be/irmR-B7jaW0

The Pop quote is confusing when taken in printed/twittered context without the full verbal exchange.

1:40 mark of video.
Tom stumbles over his words and references Drew Eubanks before changing it to Jakob midway through the question which makes it even worse.

The very next line Pop states too ,“He works hard all the time.”

It’s a weird exchange.
Pop is clearly not happy through the short interview - (Dieng injury, having to take Poeltl out because of the FT issues late in games, defensive issues - though improved from last game) and can’t help feel that Pop was trying to compliment Jakob’s consistent work ethic - (which is high, yet hasn’t seen the results on the court) rather than disparage him and say that he doesn’t practice the FTs.

timvp
04-01-2021, 02:31 PM
You can see that his right hand has the motion down, and he brings the ball down with both his hands, but at the moment of shooting, his left hand inexplicably goes off to the side and stops participating in the motion. This leads to a really high variance on the shots, which is exactly what we've been seeing.

Eh, no. That's the correct way to shoot a basketball. Watch 99% of players shoot in slow motion and you will notice the guide hand is off the ball at the time of release. Poeltl's release of his guide hand is early but that's by design. He doesn't need his guide hand (because, due to his big hands, he can control the ball with one hand) and removing it early helps to simplify his mechanics. That's what Chip wants him to him to do.

As, Dex mentioned, it's just in his head. He's thinking too much about his mechanics. Chip has worked with Poeltl to simplify his mechanics as much as possible but obviously the results aren't there yet. I think he'll get there because he legitimately has good touch.

Mechanically, the only issue Poeltl can suffer from is the timing of his knee bend. Sometimes his knees will be all the way straight before he has released his shot, which causes his free throw to be short. But this issue was more prevalent earlier in the season. I didn't rewatch his two airballs last night but I didn't see an issue with his knee bend while watching it live.

Spurs Homer
04-01-2021, 02:34 PM
If Metu can continue to hit from the top of the key he will stay in the league for a while at least. But with the Spurs he sucked and I can't say otherwise. But yeah, it would be nice to have a center who can shoot. We do but now he's injured.


i watched him in g league and college videos- he can hit those shots consistently

but he never got a chance with the spurs-pop would give him garbage time and/or yank him immediately after a few seconds of play if he made a miscue

just watch his career

Spurs Homer
04-01-2021, 02:36 PM
Nah man. Ewwbanks bring more energy than Metu EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, not just playing against a former team. And did you see how many silly things Metu does? His first play, I think he forcibly took a rebound from Fox's hands. I remember because I thought that was silly.

had the spurs allowed him to play-

anyone can see he has the tools - where ewwwbanks is just a plain scrub

just watch their careers

John B
04-01-2021, 03:25 PM
I found a clip with some ft when he played for the Utes and shot 69%. This proves me wrong about getting too low, but...

https://youtu.be/oBP2yt0LG8Y ni


https://youtu.be/oBP2yt0LG8Y

...Looking way more fluid and confident.
Damn. He had both post ups and free throws. What happened? :lol And his FT’s were excellent form

ragas
04-01-2021, 03:28 PM
Damn. He had both post ups and free throws. What happened? :lol And his FT’s were excellent form

yes, it’s stunning when you watch his college games and you get an understanding why he was drafted 9th. Like I said, he even hit 3ps for our National Team when he was younger

RC_Drunkford
04-01-2021, 03:46 PM
The issue with Poeltl shooting so bad is most likely that his hands are too big. People with big hands have problems shooting because it’s hard for them to grab the ball in a way that there is this little gap between palm and ball that you need to have to get a proper release. This was the same reason with nephew who has huge hands also and couldn’t shoot in college. What I don’t understand is why he was working on corner 3s in the offseason when he can’t shoot FTs

Mugen
04-01-2021, 03:51 PM
The issue with Poeltl shooting so bad is most likely that his hands are too big. People with big hands have problems shooting because it’s hard for them to grab the ball in a way that there is this little gap between palm and ball that you need to have to get a proper release. This was the same reason with nephew who has huge hands also and couldn’t shoot in college. What I don’t understand is why he was working on corner 3s in the offseason when he can’t shoot FTs

Boban is a career 77% FT shooter tbh :lol

RC_Drunkford
04-01-2021, 03:53 PM
Boban is a career 77% FT shooter tbh :lol

that‘s not the point. I just said it’s more difficult for people with big hands to become good shooters, not that it’s impossible. Embiid can shoot too.

Mugen
04-01-2021, 03:56 PM
that‘s not the point. I just said it’s more difficult for people with big hands to become good shooters, not that it’s impossible. Embiid can shoot too.

His issue is 99% mental tbh. I bet he's a 90% FT shooter during practice. I'd be thrilled if he can eventually hover at 60%+ tbh.

RC_Drunkford
04-01-2021, 04:06 PM
His issue is 99% mental tbh. I bet he's a 90% FT shooter during practice. I'd be thrilled if he can eventually hover at 60%+ tbh.

I highly doubt that he ever hit 9 out of 10 free throws ever in his life

rjv
04-01-2021, 04:09 PM
Thanks bruh. I also see DJ and Fox maybe betting that Poeltl doesn't make it and who gets the rebound? And Metu noticeably chuckling in the bench? :lol

But great observation. His left hand prematurely separating makes this more of a one-handed shot wtf if Metu laughing about; his whole game is laughable.

Mugen
04-01-2021, 04:25 PM
I highly doubt that he ever hit 9 out of 10 free throws ever in his life

Eh there have been numerous stories of guys being lights out shooters when the bright lights are on. Some guys just get the yips when it's the real deal. I guarantee Jak is a good FT shooter in practice tbh.