Charles Barkley Says The ‘System’ And Politicians Want Black And White People To Hate Each Other

[ducks]

https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/03/charles-barkley-politicians-system-black-people-white-people/?fbclid=IwAR1Du5FjI26YT-XaGh7GCro3bN7jVyTehvnTLC7YtUgEuVY2D4VoZSiIaCo

[ChumpDumper]

So stop hating black people.

Problem solved.

[ducks]

Blacks need to stop hating whites
Problem solved

[ChumpDumper]

Blacks need to stop hating whites
Problem solvedMore of you than them.

Do your part.

[Ef-man]

Interesting that ducks still lacks reading comprehension skills.

Explains why Barkley’s comments went over his head.

[Spurtacular]

Someone might have to give Charles a talking to and let him know who's signing his paychecks.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

last thing they want is the vast majority (lower/middle class) joining up and shaking things up

[FrostKing]

So stop hating black people.

Problem solved.
But when will you stop hating white people?

[ChumpDumper]

But when will you stop hating white people?I don't.

Just you and people like you.

All you know is hate.

[DMC]

It doesn't matter what they want. You're free to hate or not hate whomever.

[Spurtacular]

I don't.

Just you and people like you.

All you know is hate.

:lol Admits to hating people and then clutches his pearls about people allegedly hating.
:lol Good one, Derp.

[ElNono]

It doesn't matter what they want. You're free to hate or not hate whomever.

this, and also deal with the consequences of your hate or not hate as well...

[Winehole23]

who feels they've been hindered from expressing hate? I don't see much sheepishness or restraint about it here.

[Spurtacular]

who feels they've been hindered from expressing hate? I don't see much sheepishness or restraint about it here.

You saw Derp being racist too, huh?

[baseline bum]

You saw Derp being racist too, huh?

Why are you referring to yourself in the third person, Derp?

[pgardn]

Someone might have to give Charles a talking to and let him know who's signing his paychecks.

That would be his viewing audience. convince people to stop watching him.
Do you wanna the free market to just cut him off? Someone is making money with him in place you fckn moron.

[ChumpDumper]

I'd guess NBA fans like black people, generally speaking -- or at least don't actively hate them.

Notable exceptions can be found here.

[Winehole23]

There seems to be a pattern. Some people get defensive about the cancellation of the social respectability of racism as if their own respectability were under attack.

Taking a knee = NBA and NFL boycotts
Taking down the Confederate battle flag = NASCAR boycott
Taking a stand against voter suppression = MLB and corporate boycotts

[FrostKing]

Muh racism

Americans programmed to be obsessed with the shade of one's skin color.

[ChumpDumper]

Muh racism

Americans programmed to be obsessed with the shade of one's skin color.

How did you get to be obsessed with it?

[FrostKing]

How did you get to be obsessed with it?
By consuming American modern culture/politics (which is being mixed) and attending College here.

When I am in foreign country these thoughts go away.

[ChumpDumper]

By consuming American modern culture/politics (which is being mixed) and attending College here.

When I am in foreign country these thoughts go away.:lol no

Bonus points for your Borat syntax though.

[FrostKing]

:lol no

Bonus points for your Borat syntax though.
This is a big reason why the World is rejecting American wokeness. They see how obsessed people here are with identity politics.

[ChumpDumper]

This is a big reason why the World is rejecting American wokeness. They see how obsessed people here are with identity politics.:lol "The World"

You're obsessed with identity politics.

[FrostKing]

:lol "The World"

You're obsessed with identity politics.
From the people that brought you

"Diversity is our strength"
"Systematic racism"
"POC"

[ElNono]

From the people that brought you

"Diversity is our strength"
"Systematic racism"
"POC"

You just proved him right, tbh...

[FrostKing]

You just proved him right, tbh...
It is all obsession with skin color

Other countries focus on culture

[koriwhat]

Taking a stand against voter suppression = MLB and corporate boycotts

What voter suppression in GA? I don't see you crying over the more strict state of NY but whatever.

[ElNono]

It is all obsession with skin color

Other countries focus on culture

If you weren't obsessed with skin color yourself, why would this bother you at all?

And when you say 'culture' what exactly do you mean? Assimilating WASP values? that's not going to happen.

[Bogie]

By consuming American modern culture/politics (which is being mixed) and attending College here.

When I am in foreign country these thoughts go away.

but you’re in a foreign country when you’re in America since you’re from Poland.

[FrostKing]

If you weren't obsessed with skin color yourself, why would this bother you at all?

And when you say 'culture' what exactly do you mean? Assimilating WASP values? that's not going to happen.
Because racism is bad and Wokeness fuels it

I considered this. Multiculturalism allows for identity politics.

[ElNono]

Because racism is bad and Wokeness fuels it

What you're saying is wokeness makes racists get uncomfortable and come out and say it. Don't see how that's not a plus.

Racism has been socially shunned for quite a while, and rightly so, despite the small pause we had the last four years.


I considered this. Multiculturalism allows for identity politics.

Everything allows for identity politics, if that's your thing. Nationalism divides 'patriots' and 'non-patriots'. Fascism divides strict adherence to officialism and criminalizing opposition.

I would argue the opposite: Multiculturalism tries to break down racial divides, as a byproduct of mixing cultures. That makes the hegemonic-values crowd nervous.

[baseline bum]

This is a big reason why the World is rejecting American wokeness. They see how obsessed people here are with identity politics.

Trumptards complaining about identity politics :rollin

[Spurtacular]

That would be his viewing audience. convince people to stop watching him.
Do you wanna the free market to just cut him off? Someone is making money with him in place you fckn moron.

That's true in a broader sense. And in fact that may be saving his bacon that he is one of the few TV personalities that people tune in / tune out for.
But generally speaking, these people are quite disposable and much of that by design.
Nonetheless, the industry has shown that they will sacrifice short term cash cows for their long term agenda; so CB is still at risk.

[FrostKing]

What you're saying is wokeness makes racists get uncomfortable and come out and say it. Don't see how that's not a plus.

Racism has been socially shunned for quite a while, and rightly so, despite the small pause we had the last four years.



Everything allows for identity politics, if that's your thing. Nationalism divides 'patriots' and 'non-patriots'. Fascism divides strict adherence to officialism and criminalizing opposition.

I would argue the opposite: Multiculturalism tries to break down racial divides, as a byproduct of mixing cultures. That makes the hegemonic-values crowd nervous.
Wokeness encourages people to focus on race/skin color. This is contrary to the material I was taught in liberal arts courses 10 years ago. A change occurred during President Obama's tenure.

Why? You can't get beneficial treatment if we are created equal and united.



Nationalism divides nationals and non-nationals. Seems like a rather common sense divide to me. You are lesser until you become a citizen of the country.

Your argument is an interesting one but I don't think multiculturalism equals a mixture. Maybe regionally but in the scope of America as a whole it is just a nation without a common belief or ground. A better example would be French/German approach which seeks to integrate and take on certain aspects of other cultures while still upholding their foundation.

[Spurtacular]

What you're saying is wokeness makes racists get uncomfortable and come out and say it. Don't see how that's not a plus.

THERE'S HIDDEN EVERYDAY RACISTS THAT NEED TO BE EXPOSED!!! THAT TOTALLY JUSTIFIES ALL OUR RACISM!!!

[Trill Clinton]

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[Spurtacular]

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Tell us what it is, fake black person.

[FrostKing]

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Let's recap

The system can be racist (systematic racism) but the system can't fuel racism.


Mental gymnastics tbh

[ElNono]

Wokeness encourages people to focus on race/skin color. This is contrary to the material I was taught in liberal arts courses 10 years ago. A change occurred during President Obama's tenure.

Why? You can't get beneficial treatment if we are created equal and united.

Not really. As a matter of fact, you can agree or not with wokeness, but if there are specific places that have a fixation with race/skin color that's the south, and predates however old the woke movement is.

Which really is the point. Wokenes and PC makes those people uncomfortable because they need to ditch their racism, and don't want to.


Nationalism divides nationals and non-nationals. Seems like a rather common sense divide to me. You are lesser until you become a citizen of the country.

False. The type of more hard-core nationalism (not quite neo-nationalism, but almost there) you find in some parts of this country doesn't treat immigrants, even legal, as co-nationals.

And the notion somebody is 'lesser' because they have or not have a paper that says so is not common sense, it's absolutely stupid. There's people that have been here for 10-15 years that didn't get an option to become a citizen, that are much more 'American' than a dude that's been here for 3 years and got a green card.


Your argument is an interesting one but I don't think multiculturalism equals a mixture. Maybe regionally but in the scope of America as a whole it is just a nation without a common belief or ground. A better example would be French/German approach which seeks to integrate and take on certain aspects of other cultures while still upholding their foundation.

mul·ti·cul·tur·al·ism
noun
the presence of, or support for the presence of, several distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society.

Mix of cultures is exactly what it means, and unlike most Euro countries, America has been pretty much put together by immigrants from all over the place and their cultures. You have the Italians, Irish/Brits on the East, the large Asian and Hispanic population on the West, predominantly Hispanic to the south.

Multiculturalism in Europe is also growing because it's frankly inevitable when you have such a disparity in power, education and wealth from the big cities to the farmer in the middle of nowhere. It's a huge divide, and as the economy moves more from manufacturing to services, it becomes an untenable position if you want to give your family a future.


THERE'S HIDDEN EVERYDAY RACISTS THAT NEED TO BE EXPOSED!!! THAT TOTALLY JUSTIFIES ALL OUR RACISM!!!

What do you mean by "our racism"? That makes no sense, tbh.

Fortunately a lot of the racists did come out of the closet the past 4 years, so they're easy to spot and socially shun again :tu

[Spurtacular]

What do you mean by "our racism"? That makes no sense, tbh.

Fortunately a lot of the racists did come out of the closet the past 4 years, so they're easy to spot and socially shun again :tu

There's a popular current thread about your racism; feel free to check it out.

As for these so-called racist enemies of yours; well, we know all about your shell game. Nobody cares about that ploy at this point.

[FrostKing]

Not really. As a matter of fact, you can agree or not with wokeness, but if there are specific places that have a fixation with race/skin color that's the south, and predates however old the woke movement is.

Which really is the point. Wokenes and PC makes those people uncomfortable because they need to ditch their racism, and don't want to.



False. The type of more hard-core nationalism (not quite neo-nationalism, but almost there) you find in some parts of this country doesn't treat immigrants, even legal, as co-nationals.

And the notion somebody is 'lesser' because they have or not have a paper that says so is not common sense, it's absolutely stupid. There's people that have been here for 10-15 years that didn't get an option to become a citizen, that are much more 'American' than a dude that's been here for 3 years and got a green card.



mul·ti·cul·tur·al·ism
noun
the presence of, or support for the presence of, several distinct cultural or ethnic groups within a society.

Mix of cultures is exactly what it means, and unlike most Euro countries, America has been pretty much put together by immigrants from all over the place and their cultures. You have the Italians, Irish/Brits on the East, the large Asian and Hispanic population on the West, predominantly Hispanic to the south.

Multiculturalism in Europe is also growing because it's frankly inevitable when you have such a disparity in power, education and wealth from the big cities to the farmer in the middle of nowhere. It's a huge divide, and as the economy moves more from manufacturing to services, it becomes an untenable position if you want to give your family a future.



What do you mean by "our racism"? That makes no sense, tbh.

Fortunately a lot of the racists did come out of the closet the past 4 years, so they're easy to spot and socially shun again :tu
I agree that is how it was until recently. For example Oakland passing law to help support low income families, but only certain skin color. The proposition on the ballot in California recently attempting to implement skin color on job applications and College entry paperwork. These are changes meant to categorize and divide us by race. I don't see anything like this in the South today.

The rest is :tu

I think America was the model to follow in the changing world until recently. I think it will work itself out and find a middle ground.

[pgardn]

By consuming American modern culture/politics (which is being mixed) and attending College here.

When I am in foreign country these thoughts go away.

BS racism is rampant in Eastern Europe.
They take a knee before champions league and premier league games as players of color are continually harassed in most of Europe.
Try playing in the Russian, or any Eastern European soccer leagues as a black and they give you the whole run down on what you will face if you play.

[pgardn]

That's true in a broader sense. And in fact that may be saving his bacon that he is one of the few TV personalities that people tune in / tune out for.
But generally speaking, these people are quite disposable and much of that by design.
Nonetheless, the industry has shown that they will sacrifice short term cash cows for their long term agenda; so CB is still at risk.

Everyone is gonna face some risk. If the dude was not watched he would be gone.
But the guy is very popular and he can be funny because he is somewhat of an idiot imo.
They asked him to point to Argentina on a world map and he grudgingly put the point somewhere in the middle of Europe.
But he can be funny in his ignorance.

Its more likely his time will come simply because he is old and fairly ignorant and people will no longer find him amusing.
His gregarious personality will wear thin and go away. It happens.

[ChumpDumper]

I agree that is how it was until recently. For example Oakland passing law to help support low income families, but only certain skin color:lol that's not a law

You are low information.

[ElNono]

There's a popular current thread about your racism; feel free to check it out.

As for these so-called racist enemies of yours; well, we know all about your shell game. Nobody cares about that ploy at this point.

again, what's my racism? use your own words...

I don't have enemies, tbh... society shunning racist people predates me and will outlive me as well... rightly so

[Spurtacular]

again, what's my racism? use your own words...

Oh, you want it personalized?

Well, you couldn't vote for president until the most racist candidate in the last century if not ever ran.

Good enough? :lol :lmao :rollin

[ElNono]

I agree that is how it was until recently. For example Oakland passing law to help support low income families, but only certain skin color. The proposition on the ballot in California recently attempting to implement skin color on job applications and College entry paperwork. These are changes meant to categorize and divide us by race. I don't see anything like this in the South today.

Funding didn't come from government on that Oakland program, otherwise that could open the door to discrimination claims. It's just too easy and popular nowadays to rile up useful idiots with clear skin to make them think they're victims of something or another.

Plus, there's absolutely nothing wrong with targeted help toward minorities (which normally end up closely delineated by race, unfortunately). This country has had programs like affirmative action since the 60's. The reason they exist is to combat actual, measurable discrimination towards such minorities, which present itself in a multitude of ways, from socioeconomic disadvantage, to longer sentences for the same crime, to inability to obtain an education on par with their wealthier peers, etc.

That's why the whole concept of reverse discrimination or victim card is extremely phony. I get that certain whiteys don't want to lose their privilege (heck, I enjoy it very much while it's there. Despite being hispanic, my euro lineage and looks bought me a membership card, tbh), but from that to pretend you're being persecuted by dem black or brown folks is simply ridiculous.

[ElNono]

Oh, you want it personalized?

Well, you couldn't vote for president until the most racist candidate in the last century if not ever ran.

Good enough? :lol :lmao :rollin

What do you mean? I didn't vote for Trump.

[Spurtacular]

What do you mean? I didn't vote for Trump.

Sure, bud. We knew the daddy issues were coming right up. :lol

[ElNono]

Sure, bud. We knew the daddy issues were coming right up. :lol

You're still not making any sense... you said I couldn't vote for president "until the most racist candidate in the last century if not ever ran"...

I voted Biden, which clearly is nowhere near the most racist candidate in the past 8 years for starters, much less in the past century or ever... unless you took history classes from the backpage of Mad Magazine...

[Spurtacular]

You're still not making any sense... you said I couldn't vote for president "until the most racist candidate in the last century if not ever ran"...

I voted Biden, which clearly is nowhere near the most racist candidate in the past 8 years for starters, much less in the past century or ever... unless you took history classes from the backpage of Mad Magazine...

So it was Trump that imprisoned the most blacks and claimed that he didn't want his kids living in a racial jungle?

You got daddy issues, bro.

[ElNono]

So it was Trump that imprisoned the most blacks and claimed that he didn't want his kids living in a racial jungle?

You got daddy issues, bro.

Biden didn't imprison a single black person, tbh... he did support laws that eventually imprisoned people of color, that's a claim you can make about any lawmaker, tbh...

That doesn't mean I agree with everything he says, did or does. Heck, I didn't like him as a candidate, expressed so many times in here. He was just useful to remove a historically terrible president.

You second claim is fake news, no surprises there:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/27/fact-check-post-partly-false-biden-1977-racial-jungle-remark/6045749002/

On the other hand...

“I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks,”

“I have black guys counting my money. … I hate it,” Trump told John R. O’Donnell, the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino, according O’Donnell’s account in his 1991 book “Trumped!” “The only guys I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes all day.”
Trump, according to O’Donnell, went on to say, “‘Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that.”

In an interview with NBC News in September 1989, Trump remarked, “A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market.”
He continued: “If I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.”

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people,”

“I’m leading in the polls with the Hispanics. I mean, you look at Nevada, I’m leading in the polls with the Hispanics because I produce jobs, and they know it. I have thousands of Hispanics that work for me, my relationships to Hispanics is better than those groups,”

“Who the f knows? I mean, really, who knows how much the Japs will pay for Manhattan property these days?” he asked in response, using a racial slur for the Japanese.

A year prior, in 2017, the New York Times reported on two of the comments at hand – that Trump said during a session with his national security team that all Haitians “have AIDS” and that once Nigerian immigrants had seen the U.S. they would never “go back to their huts.”

'Proud boys: Stand back and stand by.'

'They should be executed.'
Trump made this comment about the Central Park Five, a group of Black and Latino men wrongly accused of assaulting a white female jogger in 1989, in a newspaper ad he purchased in 1989. Asked about it again in 2019, he did not apologize for his comments.

'Kung flu'
The president first used the phrase “kung flu” to describe COVID-19 in June at a Tulsa, Oklahoma, rally. As the Washington Post reported, it became a rallying cry for the crowd.

'Go back to crime infested places from which they came'
Trump tweeted this statement in 2019 about an unspecified group of “progressive Democratic congresswomen,” most likely Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley and Rashida Tlaib, also known as “the Squad.”

'Very fine people on both sides'
The president made this comment in 2017 in response to violent confrontations in Charlottesville, Virginia, between white nationalists and those opposing them.

list goes on, tbh... these are probably just the most prominent. About 3/4 of them direct quotes.

[FrostKing]

Funding didn't come from government on that Oakland program, otherwise that could open the door to discrimination claims. It's just too easy and popular nowadays to rile up useful idiots with clear skin to make them think they're victims of something or another.

Plus, there's absolutely nothing wrong with targeted help toward minorities (which normally end up closely delineated by race, unfortunately). This country has had programs like affirmative action since the 60's. The reason they exist is to combat actual, measurable discrimination towards such minorities, which present itself in a multitude of ways, from socioeconomic disadvantage, to longer sentences for the same crime, to inability to obtain an education on par with their wealthier peers, etc.

That's why the whole concept of reverse discrimination or victim card is extremely phony. I get that certain whiteys don't want to lose their privilege (heck, I enjoy it very much while it's there. Despite being hispanic, my euro lineage and looks bought me a membership card, tbh), but from that to pretend you're being persecuted by dem black or brown folks is simply ridiculous.
I simply don't believe this stuff is necessary because demographics are naturally changing thru birth rates and immigration. There are/will be shortages in white male dominated fields opening the door for others.

To help these people you must first give them a label by race, gender, faith, sexual preference. That is the irony to me. The very people arguing we are all equal 10 years ago now want to pigeon hole us. Smells ideological to me, not some scientific epiphany. I.e people are obtaining degrees, getting jobs and creating fortunes preaching about skin color. They need an audience, they need so-called victims.

[ElNono]

I simply don't believe this stuff is necessary because demographics are naturally changing thru birth rates and immigration. There are/will be shortages in white male dominated fields opening the door for others.

The bolded implies there are white male dominated fields, which is exactly what systemic racism is.


To help these people you must first give them a label by race, gender, faith, sexual preference. That is the irony to me. The very people arguing we are all equal 10 years ago now want to pigeon hole us. Smells ideological to me, not some scientific epiphany. I.e people are obtaining degrees, getting jobs and creating fortunes preaching about skin color. They need an audience, they need so-called victims.

But you can't reduce the problem to what is it now. That's absurd reductionism. It's what's been going on in this nation for decades upon decades where 'normalcy' meant things like 'separate but equal' at one point, or if your skin is dark we ought to shoot first ask questions later, or when white guy get caught DUI the third time he gets 2 years probation but a black guy caught with weed sits in jail for 3 years, or even basic social things that are deeply ingrained in society because it's been (incorrectly) the 'normal' for many, many decades (sometimes can even be subconscious), like colored people having to pay more deposit or rent for the same apartment than white people, or requiring them to have more collateral when buying a property/getting a loan, or getting paid less for the same job than their white counterparts.

People of color do encompass a good portion of underserved and/or poor population in this country and it's not generally because they're lazy, but because they encounter a lot of these artificial barriers that are statistically measurable, and a good chunk of white people largely don't even know they exist.

Changing things like that don't happen overnight, sometimes they don't happen even over a century. The American Civil War ended in 1865, and the Civil Rights Act wouldn't actually outlaw discrimination for another 99 years. It hasn't been 60 years since this country had to pass that legislation because discrimination on the basis of color, religion, etc was still rampant. Sure, progress has been made over all that time-span, but there's clearly much more to do to both educate and bring consciousness to it. And there's obviously some push back as well from people that think colored people are inferior or that they have some sort of right to their privileges or simply don't want to share or lose them.

[FrostKing]

The bolded implies there are white male dominated fields, which is exactly what systemic racism is.



But you can't reduce the problem to what is it now. That's absurd reductionism. It's what's been going on in this nation for decades upon decades where 'normalcy' meant things like 'separate but equal' at one point, or if your skin is dark we ought to shoot first ask questions later, or when white guy get caught DUI the third time he gets 2 years probation but a black guy caught with weed sits in jail for 3 years, or even basic social things that are deeply ingrained in society because it's been (incorrectly) the 'normal' for many, many decades (sometimes can even be subconscious), like colored people having to pay more deposit or rent for the same apartment than white people, or requiring them to have more collateral when buying a property/getting a loan, or getting paid less for the same job than their white counterparts.

People of color do encompass a good portion of underserved and/or poor population in this country and it's not generally because they're lazy, but because they encounter a lot of these artificial barriers that are statistically measurable, and a good chunk of white people largely don't even know they exist.

Changing things like that don't happen overnight, sometimes they don't happen even over a century. The American Civil War ended in 1865, and the Civil Rights Act wouldn't actually outlaw discrimination for another 99 years. It hasn't been 60 years since this country had to pass that legislation because discrimination on the basis of color, religion, etc was still rampant. Sure, progress has been made over all that time-span, but there's clearly much more to do to both educate and bring consciousness to it. And there's obviously some push back as well from people that think colored people are inferior or that they have some sort of right to their privileges or simply don't want to share or lose them.
That's not systematic racism. When most these men joined the work force, they were a significant majority of the population. If anything it was systematic genderism :lol

It's not a colored thing. It's a black thing, backed by data that illustrates they destroy rented property and don't pay their loans (I'm generally speaking here). Not to mention the crime, oh lord all the crime they commit. Asians are thriving and by and large so are Mexicans. I watched 'Living Undocumented' last night. Guy did a month journey to sneak into America and was working the following day. Inspirational.

[hater]

last thing they want is the vast majority (lower/middle class) joining up and shaking things up

Yup genius to form a 2 party system tbqh. You can always keep 2 sides arguing w each other.

I can imagine the builders of this system:

"Ok you nigas take abortion rights. We take gun rights"


"Ok fine. But we take gay and minority rights, you take religious rights"

"Deal nig. These fools will be running in circles while we rob them blind :lol"

":lol this is too easy"