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stnick2261
04-06-2021, 04:19 PM
There are 240 minutes in each game split between the 5 positions.

Tim Duncan averaged around 40mpg for his first 6 years (with a bump to 41/43 during playoffs). Tony Parker (at his prime) averaged around 34mpg (with a bump to 36/38 during playoffs). Manu Ginobili averaged around 30mpg for 9 seasons (with a bump to 32/35 during playoffs). Remember, they always managed his minutes. That's 43% of available minutes split between 3 players in the regular season and up to 48% of available minutes during prime playoffs (1 franchise and 2 all-star players).

1999 playoffs: Spurs starters averaged 76% of available minutes played.
Minutes distributed: Top 1 (Duncan), next 1, next 3, filler.
6 man rotation averaged 85% of available minutes.

2003 regular season: Spurs starters averaged 66% of available minutes.
2003 playoffs: Spurs starters averaged 68% of available minutes.
Minutes distributed: Top 1 (Duncan), next 3, next 3, filler.
8 man rotation averaged 87% of available minutes.

2005 regular season: Spurs starters averaged 65% of available minutes.
2005 playoffs: Spurs starters averaged 71% of available minutes.
Minutes distributed: Top 2 (Duncan & Parker), next 2, next 3, filler.
7 man rotation averaged 90% of available minutes.

2007 regular season: Spurs starters averaged 61% of available minutes.
2007 playoffs: Spurs starters averaged 69% of available minutes.
Minutes distributed: Top 2 (Duncan & Parker), next 2, next 3, filler.
7 man rotation averaged 85% of available minutes. 10 man rotation averaged 95% of available minutes.

2014 regular season: Spurs starters averaged 57% of available minutes (beautiful game).
2014 playoffs: Spurs starters averaged 61% of available minutes.
Minutes distributed: Top 3 (Duncan, Parker & Kawhi), next 4, next 2, filler.
9 man rotation averaged 93% of available minutes.

2020 regular season was a mess and trying to get accurate numbers was difficult since the starting lineup kept changing and we didn't have a playoff series to use playoff rotations (since there is less experimenting or managing minutes)... BUT the top 5 spurs averaged 59% of available minutes.
Minutes distributed: Top 2 (DDR & LMA), next 6, next 4, filler
11 man rotation averaged 95% of available minutes.

2021 currently (including LMA): Same problems as 2020, BUT the (mostly starting) spurs are averaging around 61% of available minutes.
Minutes distributed: Top 2 (DDR & Murray), next 2 (White & Johnson), next 5, next 3
10 man rotation averaging 90% of available minutes.
13 man rotation averaging 97% of available minutes (now minus LMA)

2021 Jazz: starters are averaging 65% of available minutes with a 9 man rotation getting 94% of available minutes.
2021 Suns: starters are averaging 65% of available minutes with a 9 man rotation getting 85% of available minutes.
2021 Nets: 4/5 starters are averaging 58% of available minutes by themselves. Too many changes to get better numbers.
2021 Clippers: starters are averaging 60% of available minutes with a 11 man rotation getting 94% of available minutes.
2021 76ers: starters are averaging 65% of available minutes with a 11 man rotation getting 93% of available minutes.

2018 Warriors playoffs: starters averaged 75% of available minutes
2019 Raptors playoffs (last champion before Covid): starters averaged 72% of available minutes with a 8 man rotation getting 98% of available minutes.

We already have DDR, Murray, White, Johnson, Poeltl, Walker, Vassell, and Samanic. Obviously we need depth with Covid protocols, but my point is that we are trying to go too deep with decent talent. If those 8 players are not enough to compete for a championship, then we really need to consolidate our talent into a franchise player (trading multiple decent players for a great player), and then filling out with veterans on minimum contracts or rookies.

TD 21
04-06-2021, 04:47 PM
No offense, but of course those 8 players aren't enough (at this writing, I'd argue only White, Poeltl, Vassell, could fill rotational roles on contenders). They're not even close to being close, nor are they to being able to be consolidated for a franchise player.

Getting a franchise player obviously isn't easy, but it is simple . . .

Post #262: Official San Antonio Spurs 2021 NBA Draft Discussion Thread - Page 11 (spurstalk.com) (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289803&page=11)

stnick2261
04-06-2021, 05:05 PM
No offense, but of course those 8 players aren't enough (at this writing, I'd argue only White, Poeltl, Vassell, could fill rotational roles on contenders). They're not even close to being close, nor are they to being able to be consolidated for a franchise player.

Getting a franchise player obviously isn't easy, but it is simple . . .

Post #262: Official San Antonio Spurs 2021 NBA Draft Discussion Thread - Page 11 (spurstalk.com) (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=289803&page=11)

My point is that we don't need more players. We need to tank, we need to trade up in the draft, or we need to trade for a potential future franchise player.