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Trill Clinton
04-10-2021, 08:09 AM
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Caron Nazario was driving his newly-purchased Chevy Tahoe home when two police officers pulled him over in Windsor, Virginia, whipped out their guns, and started barking orders.
With their weapons raised, the officers demanded that Nazario, a Black and Latino man, get out of the SUV. Nazario looked in the mirror and saw he was being held at gunpoint, then placed his cellphone on his dashboard to film the December 5 encounter. He repeatedly asked to know what was going on. At one point, he even admitted to being afraid to leave the vehicle.

“Yeah, you should be,” one of the officers responded.

Nazario, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Army Medical Corps, was coming home from work and in full uniform at the time.

“I’m serving this country, and this is how I’m treated?” Nazario told the officers, according to his cellphone video.



By the end of the incident, the cops would threaten Nazario, pepper-spray him in the face, and knee-strike him in the legs, according to body camera footage, Nazario’s cellphone video, and legal filings. Later, when Nazario was in tears and on the ground of a gas station parking lot as officers put him in handcuffs, he repeated, “This is fucked up, this is fucked up.”


(https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvzggv/cops-arrested-a-black-man-taking-out-his-garbage-while-looking-for-a-white-suspect)


The officers allegedly told Nazario if he were to complain, they’d charge him with crimes like obstruction, eluding, and assault on a law enforcement officer—potentially destroying his military career.
But now Nazario has a lawyer. And he sued the two Windsor police officers, Joe Gutierrez and Daniel Crocker, on April 2, alleging violations of his constitutional rights under the Fourth and First Amendments.
“He’s a sworn member of the United States Army. He swears an oath to support to defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies foreign and domestic—and the way these officers behaved, this implicates the oath that he takes,” said Jonathan Arthur, an attorney for Nazario.
Arthur said Nazario thinks he was racially profiled. His hope with the lawsuit is to hold the officers accountable and send a message to other law enforcement officers “that this type of behavior will not be tolerated,” Arthur said.




The Windsor Police Department and Gutierrez did not immediately respond to VICE News’ requests for comment. Contact information for Crocker wasn’t immediately available.
The incident ostensibly began after an officer believed Nazario was driving on U.S. Route 460 without a rear license plate, according to the lawsuit. While the SUV was new to Nazario, meaning he hadn’t gotten permanent plates yet, he still had a temporary plate taped to the inside of his rear window, the lawsuit notes. The temporary tags are visible in the body camera footage.
Nazario slowed down his vehicle within seconds of the police pursuing him and activated his turn signal. Because it was dark, Nazario also drove for less than a mile—below the posted speed limit—until he reached a well-lit BP gas station, where he pulled over. In all, it took about 1 minute, 40 seconds for Nazario to pull over after Crocker initiated the stop, according to the lawsuit. News (https://www.vice.com/en/section/news)



(https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7amde/police-screamed-at-a-5-year-old-and-told-him-handcuffs-would-be-his-best-friend)


Still, the cops claimed in a report Nazario was “eluding police,” had a dark window tint, and lacked plates, so officers treated the incident as a “felony traffic stop,” or a traffic stop they believed to be risky. (https://archive.theincline.com/2018/08/06/what-police-officers-should-and-shouldnt-do-when-a-suspect-flees-from-a-felony-traffic-stop/#:~:text=A%20felony%20stop%20is%20any,on%20an%20ou tstanding%20felony%20warrant.) One of the officers admitted later that they knew why Nazario had pulled into the BP—it happened all the time, and was a maneuver often used by people of color, according to the lawsuit.

Once he was in the BP parking lot, Nazario was ordered to put his hands out of his car window and turn the vehicle off, according to body camera footage. He was also ordered to get out of the vehicle multiple times by both officers as he asked, “What’s going on?”

The officers were not “willing or able to articulate why they had initiated the traffic stop,” according to the lawsuit. Gutierrez told Nazario, who did not immediately get out of the car despite repeated orders to do so, that he was “fixin’ to ride the lightning,” according to body camera footage.
“This is a colloquial expression for an execution, originating from glib reference to execution by the electric chair,” the lawsuit alleges.
Gutierrez attempted to remove Nazario from the car with an “arm-bar,” but failed, according to the lawsuit. The officer pepper-sprayed Nazario in the face and continued to order him out of the SUV, body camera footage shows. The pepper spray caused Nazario’s dog, which was in a crate in the back of the vehicle, to start choking, according to the lawsuit.

After Nazario got out of the vehicle, he was allegedly hit with “knee-strikes” to the legs. Officers continued to strike him after he was on the ground and in tears, according to the lawsuit.
Once Nazario was in handcuffs, the officers pulled him up and began to interrogate him. Medics also responded to provide assistance to Nazario, who said his eyes were burning.
Meanwhile, Crocker searched Nazario’s SUV “without permission or authority” to locate a firearm that Nazario said he had, according to the lawsuit. Crocker “radioed the serial number back to dispatch to see if the firearm was stolen.”
While interrogating Nazario, Gutierrez said the problem was that Nazario hadn’t exited the vehicle, according to the lawsuit.
Nazario was told that he could leave without charges if he would “chill and let this go,” according to the lawsuit—or, he could be charged, have to go to court, and face the consequences in his military career.

The body camera footage adds to the many documented, aggressive police traffic stops of non-white people (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/inside-100-million-police-traffic-stops-new-evidence-racial-bias-n980556) that have drawn attention in recent years.

“I made the decision to release him without charges,” an incident report narrative from Gutierrez, submitted in the lawsuit as an exhibit, reads. “The reason for this decision is simple; the military is the only place left where double jeopardy applies. Meaning that regardless of what happened in civilian court the military could still take punitive actions against him.”

“Being a military veteran,” Gutierrez’s report continued, “I did not want to see his career ruined over one erroneous decision."

Spurtacular
04-10-2021, 08:19 AM
Another false flag? Wouldn't be surprised.

pgardn
04-10-2021, 09:10 AM
Yes this is way too bizarre for your belief system to be true.

so the solution is to make up something much more bizarre.
impeccable logic from a guy who claims to be a master debater.

Winehole23
04-10-2021, 09:50 AM
nothing to see here, DMC says he does not care

SnakeBoy
04-10-2021, 11:55 AM
Thanks to all involved for their service

FrostKing
04-10-2021, 11:59 AM
Identity overload

MultiTroll
04-10-2021, 12:20 PM
2 million settlement?

koriwhat
04-10-2021, 01:10 PM
Lmao Imagine getting your news from VICE... HAHAHA

Thanos
04-10-2021, 01:18 PM
Lmao Imagine getting your news from VICE... HAHAHA
Vice was started by the former leader of the Proud Boys.

koriwhat
04-10-2021, 01:22 PM
Vice was started by the former leader of the Proud Boys.

Gavin... And why should I care? I'm not in the Proud Boys and don't even know anyone who is. What are you getting at reject?

Actually Vice was started by Gavin and some other dude who sold out and pushed Gavin out of the company. They made shit tons of money and blew it all so I am surprised they are still somewhat around and relevant.

Fuck that hipster rag outlet. It's no better than Buzzfeed and if I had to guess I'd lay odds that they share some of the same personnel.

Thanos
04-10-2021, 01:27 PM
Gavin... And why should I care? I'm not in the Proud Boys and don't even know anyone who is. What are you getting at reject?

Actually Vice was started by Gavin and some other dude who sold out and pushed Gavin out of the company. They made shit tons of money and blew it all so I am surprised they are still somewhat around and relevant.

Fuck that hipster rag outlet. It's no better than Buzzfeed and if I had to guess I'd lay odds that they share some of the same personnel.
lol dismisses Vice, but watches Infowars.

Winehole23
04-10-2021, 02:53 PM
2 million settlement?sounds low, the reported offer to let Lt. Nazario "ride the lightning" could be construed as a threat to use lethal force.

Trill Clinton
04-10-2021, 03:02 PM
Lmao Imagine getting your news from VICE... HAHAHA

Tyrants violate a service member's rights while in his uniform and all you have to say is "lol vice" you're a fucking joke. Get the cops dick out ya mouth lame.

Winehole23
04-10-2021, 03:05 PM
The Amazon river runs for thousands of miles. At some points it runs through areas of the rain forest that are almost untouched and have been barely explored. Because of the porous limestone in these areas, the river water leaks through the stone and travels deep into the earth, and forms underground pools almost a mile below the surface. Over thousands of years, small blind transparent fish have lived and evolved in these pools. These fish have never seen the sun or surface and have never been seen by the human. These fish care more about this than I do.

Proxy
04-10-2021, 03:20 PM
Gavin... And why should I care? I'm not in the Proud Boys and don't even know anyone who is. What are you getting at reject?

Actually Vice was started by Gavin and some other dude who sold out and pushed Gavin out of the company. They made shit tons of money and blew it all so I am surprised they are still somewhat around and relevant.

Fuck that hipster rag outlet. It's no better than Buzzfeed and if I had to guess I'd lay odds that they share some of the same personnel.
You know, for someone that uses a 12 year old’s Reddit meme for their avatar, you sure do sound a bit triggered

ElNono
04-10-2021, 07:13 PM
Lmao Imagine getting your news from VICE... HAHAHA


Gavin... And why should I care?

Looks like you care, tbh

ElNono
04-10-2021, 07:15 PM
Would fox make you care more, less?

https://fox2now.com/news/national/lawsuit-windsor-police-officers-threatened-man-and-his-career-during-traffic-stop/

https://fox8.com/news/police-officers-sued-after-pepper-spraying-drawing-guns-on-army-officer-during-traffic-stop/

koriwhat
04-10-2021, 07:21 PM
lol dismisses Vice, but watches Infowars.

Because you say I do I must watch infowars? Lmao

You trolls do this time and time again. Yall make assumptions but present them as fact and pat yourselves on the back. It's quite odd.


Looks like you care, tbh

What? You're diving off the deep end with the rest of the loons tbh. What happened to you bro?

Spurtacular
04-10-2021, 07:25 PM
nothing to see here, DMC says he does not care

:lol Proactively lashing out.

ElNono
04-10-2021, 07:25 PM
What? You're diving off the deep end with the rest of the loons tbh. What happened to you bro?

You cared enough about Vice to single it out, then you ask why should you care about Vice... merely pointing it out...

Wondering what happened to you, joey? Melting down over simple stuff that has nothing to do with the story...

Maybe you jezt trolling, then disregard, tbh

koriwhat
04-10-2021, 07:25 PM
Tyrants violate a service member's rights while in his uniform and all you have to say is "lol vice" you're a fucking joke. Get the cops dick out ya mouth lame.

You care about the military now? Lmao Your faux virtue signaling is appalling bro just like you pretending you're anything but white here on ST. You're quite the shit show bro.

And I can laugh about Vice all I want while not having to give my opinion on the subject at hand. Vice is a rag outlet but losers like you follow them because you're a trendy bastard and you know it; you probably watch all the late night hacks too for "the news".

Spurtacular
04-10-2021, 07:26 PM
Lmao Imagine getting your news from VICE... HAHAHA


Vice was started by the former leader of the Proud Boys.

Which shows how inbred all these gimmicks are.

Spurtacular
04-10-2021, 07:27 PM
Looks like you care, tbh

Moar pearl clutching.

koriwhat
04-10-2021, 07:27 PM
You cared enough about Vice to single it out, then you ask why should you care about Vice... merely pointing it out...

Wondering what happened to you, joey? Melting down over simple stuff that has nothing to do with the story...

Maybe you jezt trolling, then disregard, tbh

I laughed at the mere fact that Vice is anything but a dead venture trying to survive just like Buzzfeed. It's not my fault you jump to conclusions and assume bs you pulled out of your ass.

How am I melting down exactly? Because I laughed at Vice? Because I answer yalls dumbass replies to me? Fuck off bro!

koriwhat
04-10-2021, 07:28 PM
Which shows how inbred all these gimmicks are.

These loons here make no sense whatsoever. "I hate Gavin & the Proud Boys but I love Vice! Did you know the leader of the Proud Boys started my favorite hipster trendy loser ass rag outlet?"

ElNono
04-10-2021, 07:30 PM
I laughed at the mere fact that Vice is anything but a dead venture trying to survive just like Buzzfeed. It's not my fault you jump to conclusions and assume bs you pulled out of your ass.

How am I melting down exactly? Because I laughed at Vice? Because I answer yalls dumbass replies to me? Fuck off bro!

Do you have an opinion about the actual story though? I don't think OP posted that to discuss Vice... as noted, it's been reported by multiple outlets.

ElNono
04-10-2021, 07:31 PM
These loons here make no sense whatsoever. "I hate Gavin & the Proud Boys but I love Vice! Did you know the leader of the Proud Boys started my favorite hipster trendy loser ass rag outlet?"


How am I melting down exactly?

smh

koriwhat
04-10-2021, 07:41 PM
Would fox make you care more, less?

https://fox2now.com/news/national/lawsuit-windsor-police-officers-threatened-man-and-his-career-during-traffic-stop/

https://fox8.com/news/police-officers-sued-after-pepper-spraying-drawing-guns-on-army-officer-during-traffic-stop/

Bro IDGAF about fox either. I don't think yall are quite understanding me but it's ok. Yall can continue to entertain me with yalls lackluster assumptions though. :tu

koriwhat
04-10-2021, 07:43 PM
Do you have an opinion about the actual story though? I don't think OP posted that to discuss Vice... as noted, it's been reported by multiple outlets.

I didn't read it and don't care to. Sucks a Military man was harassed by a LEO or it seems as so by the headline.

koriwhat
04-10-2021, 07:44 PM
Moar pearl clutching.

Always with this crowd!

pgardn
04-10-2021, 08:26 PM
These loons here make no sense whatsoever. "I hate Gavin & the Proud Boys but I love Vice! Did you know the leader of the Proud Boys started my favorite hipster trendy loser ass rag outlet?"

Wow...

You stick with derp, go feed off him, you are in good hands.

Millennial_Messiah
04-10-2021, 08:54 PM
yeah, those cops were fucked up.

I got pulled over twice in Nebraska in a 10 minute span by two different officers this past october, No tickets or written warnings, just verbal but but I got to ride shotgun in a cop car with no handcuffs or anything which was kind of cool.

pgardn
04-10-2021, 09:52 PM
yeah, those cops were fucked up.

I got pulled over twice in Nebraska in a 10 minute span by two different officers this past october, No tickets or written warnings, just verbal but but I got to ride shotgun in a cop car with no handcuffs or anything which was kind of cool.

If you only were black with a big fro.
And gay. Then you would experience the true riding shotgun.

Winehole23
04-10-2021, 10:24 PM
yeah, those cops were fucked up.

I got pulled over twice in Nebraska in a 10 minute span by two different officers this past october, No tickets or written warnings, just verbal but but I got to ride shotgun in a cop car with no handcuffs or anything which was kind of cool.at least you're not a bootlicker, unlike some other posters who make an extravagant display of not caring.

ElNono
04-11-2021, 12:36 AM
yeah, those cops were fucked up.

I got pulled over twice in Nebraska in a 10 minute span by two different officers this past october, No tickets or written warnings, just verbal but but I got to ride shotgun in a cop car with no handcuffs or anything which was kind of cool.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrRy06k2keA

diego
04-11-2021, 02:09 AM
Bro IDGAF about fox either. I don't think yall are quite understanding me but it's ok. Yall can continue to entertain me with yalls lackluster assumptions though. :tu

Theres a video you little punk bitch. Either get on the derp train that this is staged or admit you prefer racism over patriotism like a good white supremacist, or I dunno maybe try to stfu with your pathetic attempts at distraction lest you be singled out as a white supremacist

FYI i dont care to back and forth just wanted to let you know how stupid you look

Winehole23
04-11-2021, 10:05 AM
1381248585833054209

boutons_deux
04-11-2021, 10:16 AM
move police/sheriff settlements with victims to be paid from insurance, or from pension funds, rather than from taxpayers.

LE fired for cause or conviction loses all retirement benefits.

FrostKing
04-11-2021, 12:47 PM
1381248585833054209
> obsession with skin color

Trill Clinton
04-11-2021, 09:37 PM
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Officer ride the lightning has been fired

pgardn
04-11-2021, 09:40 PM
> obsession with skin color

Yep.

BLM taking the Capitol = many dead black people.
But you dont think skin color mattered?

FrostKing
04-11-2021, 10:05 PM
Yep.

BLM taking the Capitol = many dead black people.
But you dont think skin color mattered?
Not sure I understand your post.

Americans are recently obsessed with identity. It use to be your regional or local city but now skin/gender/sexual preference. The rest of the World rejects this. The elite will not divide us. We live in the same neighborhood but I'm supposed to dislike you because you have tanner skin. American leftist need to u-turn this mindset.

ChumpDumper
04-11-2021, 10:14 PM
Not sure I understand your post.

Americans are recently obsessed with identity.
When did you become obsessed with identity?

FrostKing
04-11-2021, 10:37 PM
When did you become obsessed with identity?
Recently. My close friends growing up were/are diverse. I am immigrant so never was accepted in the elite circles.

Imo we are being pinned against each other.

ChumpDumper
04-11-2021, 10:45 PM
Recently. My close friends growing up were/are diverse. I am immigrant so never was accepted in the elite circles.

Imo we are being pinned against each other.To which elite circles did you try to be accepted?

Trill Clinton
04-12-2021, 09:27 AM
Defund the police. Taxpayers always end up bailing these tyrants out.

1381578922823913472

boutons_deux
04-12-2021, 11:02 AM
Defund the police. Taxpayers always end up bailing these tyrants out.

1381578922823913472

cops, sheriff people fired for cause, for convictions, DUI, other misdemeanors must lose their retirement benefits and severance pay, as well as lose SCOTUS-created qualified immunity.

LE settlements with victims and/or victims' families must be paid from the LE pension funds, not by taxpayers.

Winehole23
04-12-2021, 11:17 AM
Defund the police. Taxpayers always end up bailing these tyrants out.

1381578922823913472Police are bad providing public safety and clearing serious crimes so they overrely on pretextual stops.

Winehole23
04-12-2021, 11:18 AM
80% of police/public interactions are for misdemeanor bullshit

https://today.law.harvard.edu/professor-natapoff-on-how-our-massive-misdemeanor-system-makes-america-more-unequal/

RandomGuy
04-12-2021, 12:23 PM
sounds low, the reported offer to let Lt. Nazario "ride the lightning" could be construed as a threat to use lethal force.

taser?

RandomGuy
04-12-2021, 12:25 PM
Moar pearl clutching.

That's not what pearl clutching means, you mouth-breathing fucktard.

Are you deliberately misusing it? Or are you that dumb?

Winehole23
04-12-2021, 12:28 PM
taser?evidently, but the phrase reportedly has a stronger colloquial meaning.

RandomGuy
04-12-2021, 01:02 PM
evidently, but the phrase reportedly has a stronger colloquial meaning.

gotcha.

Support the... um... Back the... uh....

This one presents a real conundrum for the blue line crowd.

boutons_deux
04-12-2021, 01:12 PM
Newsmax host

smears Caron Nazario as ‘the Bad Lieutenant’ :lol

– and then gets crushed by a Black conservative


Kelly suggested that Navario, who is Black, brought the incident upon himself.

"One more little 'tidbit' —the Bad Lieutenant Nazario had a loaded GUN on the floor of the car," Kelly wrote.

"In the front seat. By his Leg. Something the CORRUPT folks in the Media won't say for some 'reason.'"

Kelly's tweet immediately drew a wave of backlash, many accusing him of applying uneven standards for Second Amendment protections since Navario is a Black man.

"...he has EVERY right to keep and bear arms," Singleton wrote.

"Do we know if he had a concealed carry license?

Also, even if he doesn't,

in the state of Virginia you can legally have a handgun in a private motor vehicle."

And for those who are saying did he notify the police he had a gun in his car,

the state of Virginia is not a Must-notify state;

Virginia is a Notify-when-asked state.

https://www.rawstory.com/newsmax-host-greg-kelly

Trainwreck2100
04-12-2021, 01:22 PM
The best part of that interaction was when the cop asks if he's a specialist or a corporal, and he answers lieutenant

Winehole23
04-12-2021, 08:55 PM
The best part of that interaction was when the cop asks if he's a specialist or a corporal, and he answers lieutenantnot that it made any difference to the troopers.

Trainwreck2100
04-12-2021, 09:58 PM
not that it made any difference to the troopers.

it absolutely did, they found out he was an officer

Winehole23
04-12-2021, 10:04 PM
it absolutely did, they found out he was an officerwell, i mean, they did not exactly go easy on him because of that.

koriwhat
04-12-2021, 10:45 PM
Theres a video you little punk bitch. Either get on the derp train that this is staged or admit you prefer racism over patriotism like a good white supremacist, or I dunno maybe try to stfu with your pathetic attempts at distraction lest you be singled out as a white supremacist

FYI i dont care to back and forth just wanted to let you know how stupid you look

Lol "Everyone is a white supremacist because I say so!"

You're a dumbass bro.

ElNono
04-13-2021, 02:50 AM
Who's starting the Blue Lives ramping up the fascism thread, tbh?

boutons_deux
04-13-2021, 07:04 AM
well, i mean, they did not exactly go easy on him because of that.

His skin color dominated their considerations.