Super League = done deal

[lefty]

Well not sure howI feel about that tbh

https://twitter.com/mohamedbouhafsi/status/1383781505827164167?s=21

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1383801772381138948?s=21

[Jodelo]

Terrible.

[FrostKing]

Isn't this what UCL has developed into anyway?

Great for American audience.

[lefty]

Great for American audience.

And that sucks

[Jodelo]

I like that they are banned from UEFA and FIFA if that happens. So, can't compete at a WC.

[Hoops Czar]

It's official... City and Chelsea acting like they were backed into a corner.

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Soccer had a good run tbh.

Statement from City...

https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/club-statement-super-league-competition-63754377


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[RD2191]

Can someone explain what's happening to a non povertyball fan?

[FlAVaK]

https://youtu.be/GP05EDm9EB8

[FlAVaK]

Can someone explain what's happening to a non povertyball fan?

https://thesuperleague.de/press.html

[Down Under]

At least they'll each be in a competitive league now, instead of a small handful of teams winning for decades because of no salary cap.

[RD2191]

So it's like an NFL/NBA style of European soccer league? Why is euro twitter freaking out about it though? :lol

[Winehole23]

Kleinman added: "The new league includes staggering sums of money that will be handed to the participating clubs. About $5billion has been committed to this new project by the American bank JP Morgan.https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12279493/european-super-league-plans-set-to-be-announced-six-english-teams-involved-sky-news-understands

[lefty]

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[lefty]

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[Texas_Ranger]

uefa should throw them all out of the leagues and then lets see if these clubs really wanna play just 20 games every year. Also lets see if the players will wanna play just for the club without the national teams. And which club that isnt part of this will even wanna sell players to these clubs? This is all just fucked.

[lefty]

The next mercato will be super interesting :lol

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[velik_m]

I'm not so sure UEFA has much legal standing here. On what grounds would they ban them?

That being said, it's a shit move by these clubs and hopefully they do get thrown out of all competitions.

[pgardn]

Isn't this what UCL has developed into anyway?

Great for American audience.

No

and No

The idea absolutely sucks and it’s up to the fans to reject it. Horrible idea
The drama of soccer was also relegation and promotion as well as the local tournaments that allowed lesser teams to play big teams. this was part of the difference. The champions league is a whole other aspect of the game, it’s not what the game has become.

there are a lot of fans of smaller teams in communities where soccer is very important in this whole idea just sucks because they always have dreams of entering the top league for a year or two. and throw out Leicester city stunning the Premier league.

fucking horrible idea.
needs to be stomped out immediately.

[pgardn]

I'm not so sure UEFA has much legal standing here. On what grounds would they ban them?

That being said, it's a shit move by these clubs and hopefully they do get thrown out of all competitions.

they don’t.

But the country’s national team to do. Boris Johnson has already said he will make sure that players who play in this league do not play on the national team. In great Britain they know this sucks for the vast majority of real fans. Not just a fake fan to pick Real Madrid to watch and stream on occasion because they always have a chance of winning everything.

[pgardn]

The beauty of this sport as you grow up with your local team and then on the side possibly root for a bigger team, knowing your team might have a chance in the future. There is no dream with this farce of a new league.

[pgardn]

Further, Tottenham has been asked to join and accepted.
They dont win shit. They have a new big stadium, this is how they got in.
Their supporters will be absolutely against this, should be interesting.

[ElNono]

lol this is going to backfire spectacularly, IMO...

[GAustex]

No

and No

The idea absolutely sucks and it’s up to the fans to reject it. Horrible idea
The drama of soccer was also relegation and promotion as well as the local tournaments that allowed lesser teams to play big teams. this was part of the difference. The champions league is a whole other aspect of the game, it’s not what the game has become.

there are a lot of fans of smaller teams in communities where soccer is very important in this whole idea just sucks because they always have dreams of entering the top league for a year or two. and throw out Leicester city stunning the Premier league.

fucking horrible idea.
needs to be stomped out immediately.
Leicester city Is one of the reasons this Yank started watching. It was like RR Express winning into MLB and then beating the Yankees. O what fun that was
Leicester city

[lefty]

I'm not so sure UEFA has much legal standing here. On what grounds would they ban them?

That being said, it's a shit move by these clubs and hopefully they do get thrown out of all competitions.

welcome back

[lefty]

:lmao JP fucking Morgan is financing the whole thing

[velik_m]

they don’t.

But the country’s national team to do. Boris Johnson has already said he will make sure that players who play in this league do not play on the national team. In great Britain they know this sucks for the vast majority of real fans. Not just a fake fan to pick Real Madrid to watch and stream on occasion because they always have a chance of winning everything.

Boris "over my dead body" Johnson has no say in national team selection, he's a populist latching on a new issue that happens to be unpopular with the people.

[pgardn]

Boris "over my dead body" Johnson has no say in national team selection, he's a populist latching on a new issue that happens to be unpopular with the people.

Boris has a huge say in how the National Team is funded and who the directors are.
I hate the guy personally, but Im on his side on this one. No matter his political motives because I like the game.
These are GOVERNMENT funded and run National Teams. Private companies dont run National Teams.

[FrostKing]

Didn't include the Nazis fail

[FrostKing]

Rivalries matter. Players are smart for sticking up for their lower wage national teammates

[pgardn]

Rivalries matter. Players are smart for sticking up for their lower wage national teammates

Another good point.
Just throw out all these fantastic rivalries. No more Everton Liverpool? No more West Ham Tottenham? These are some of the biggest fun games of the entire year.

[lefty]

Spurs and Westham have a rivalry?

[Hoops Czar]

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[lefty]

To think that shit has been up in the air for 30-40 years lol
(which led to the Champions League format as we know it)

[Hoops Czar]

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:lmao You can't make this stuff up.

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:( Poor Madrid. What a clown show. Sell Hazzard.

[pgardn]

Spurs and Westham have a rivalry?

For Westham, definitely.
Tottenham hates West Ham, but not as much as Woolwich (Arsenal).
The London games are all "festive"
West Ham/ Millwall is probably more violent though.

The local games are huge draws. These fans will be so hungry for the big local games after Covid.
Its just ridiculous to leave them out. These so called kids who dont like the non competitive games... thats BS. They love the local games, its still the blood boiling rivalries. You want games that are not interesting, its the games in the middle of the table contests that are of no consequence. The relegation games and top 4 games are at the nice time of the year and big draws for the locals and huge for the local businesses.

[FrostKing]

Another good point.
Just throw out all these fantastic rivalries. No more Everton Liverpool? No more West Ham Tottenham? These are some of the biggest fun games of the entire year.
Good timing with Leeds

[FrostKing]

Iron Curtain mindest

[pgardn]

Good timing with Leeds

Its very nice to see them back up and playing a very open style.
Im happy both Aston Villa and Leeds United (finally) have made their way back up.

And teams like West Ham have a huge following in London but they are not ever going to a super league.

This whole thing is what made real football great in the country that invented the game and now they want to screw it up...
Dont teams in Madrid and Paris have huge followings from other teams besides RM and PSG. Sure they do.

[Hoops Czar]

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[FrostKing]

Another good point.
Just throw out all these fantastic rivalries. No more Everton Liverpool? No more West Ham Tottenham? These are some of the biggest fun games of the entire year.
EPL is loving. Spain is arrogant. Italy watching gang bang.

[lefty]

Is it too late to start rooting for Betis ?

[pgardn]

This is earthshaking bad for the fans in England and Wales.
Then they leave out teams like Celtic and Ajax?

This is so fcked.

This is far worse than hiring Jose MORONyo

[lefty]

For Westham, definitely.
Tottenham hates West Ham, but not as much as Woolwich (Arsenal).
The London games are all "festive"
West Ham/ Millwall is probably more violent though.

The local games are huge draws. These fans will be so hungry for the big local games after Covid.
Its just ridiculous to leave them out. These so called kids who dont like the non competitive games... thats BS. They love the local games, its still the blood boiling rivalries. You want games that are not interesting, its the games in the middle of the table contests that are of no consequence. The relegation games and top 4 games are at the nice time of the year and big draws for the locals and huge for the local businesses.

Thanks

[DAF86]

This is such a shitty idea. All they are going to do is water down the impact of these teams facing each other.

[pgardn]

This is such a shitty idea. All they are going to do is water down the impact of these teams facing each other.

^
Yet another very good point.
Its cool having leagues that have some basic styles that work very well in their league and then get to eventually see the styles compete in the Europa or CL leagues. Much more interesting.

[DAF86]

So it's like an NFL/NBA style of European soccer league? Why is euro twitter freaking out about it though? :lol

A better analogy would be the biggest market teams having a paralel tournament while the NBA season is going on. Not only does it water down the relevance of both leagues, it also gives an unfair economic advantage to those that can compete in both, on a sport that doesn't have a salary cap.

[lefty]

This is such a shitty idea. All they are going to do is water down the impact of these teams facing each other.
Agreed

[velik_m]

Boris has a huge say in how the National Team is funded and who the directors are.

Nah, the player visas will be far bigger issue for the english clubs, since they are no longer part of EU.

Also, it looks like there is some legal grounds for kicking them out of PL (lifted from reddit):

L.9. Except with the prior written approval of the Board, during the Season a Club shall not enter or play its senior men’s first team in any competition other than:
L.9.1. the UEFA Champions League;
L.9.2. the UEFA Europa League;
L.9.3. the F.A. Cup;
L.9.4. the F.A. Community Shield;
L.9.5. the Football League Cup; or
L.9.6. competitions sanctioned by the County Association of which it is a member.

I guess it all depend on their County Association :spin

[Spurtacular]

Spanish and Italian leagues have been a joke for a while now. Spanish league especially.

[ElNono]

This is Florentino trying to get leverage on UEFA and get a bigger TV cut, rights to mobile and other platforms, rule changes, etc. There's really no plans to move ahead with this.

The thing is, it's just not going to work out. UEFA and FIFA hold all the leverage here, with players especially. That includes all the national federations as well, and most every government inside and outside Europe.

We'll see what happens when they actually have to commit to dropping FIFA-sanctioned tournaments, including local leagues.

[lefty]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzaKew9XEAM2rf8?format=jpg&name=small

[DAF86]

"Football games are getting too long for kids". Florentino Penes.

This fucker wants to make games shorter. :lmao

[DAF86]

I'm watching a Florentino interview in "El Chiringuito", his backyard. This SOB wants to end with football as we know it. All he talks about is making more money. Doesn't give a single fuck about the integrity of the game.

[DAF86]

From what I'm hearing, he wants for the teams that play in the Superleague to never play Champions League and UEFA ever again.

Real Madrid's president wanting to kill the tournament that made Real Madrid the club that it is. :lol

[lefty]

well the man is a real estate mogul so he needs to finance a lot of projects I guess

Fuck him tbh :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

Chelsea are now preparing documentation to request withdrawing from the Super League.

respect

[DAF86]

Man City too.

[Jodelo]

:lol Perez, fuck him.

[lefty]

City and Chelsea shouldn't have joined in the 1st place, but still, good news

[DAF86]

Now Atletico and Barca. Everybody hoping off the bandwagon.

[lefty]

Haha what a bunch of phaggots


:lol at Agnelli and Perez

[lefty]

Now Atletico and Barca. Everybody hoping off the bandwagon.
I didn't realize ESL had its knockout stage that early

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/HvnieFO2sho

[pgardn]

Nah, the player visas will be far bigger issue for the english clubs, since they are no longer part of EU.

Also, it looks like there is some legal grounds for kicking them out of PL (lifted from reddit):

L.9. Except with the prior written approval of the Board, during the Season a Club shall not enter or play its senior men’s first team in any competition other than:
L.9.1. the UEFA Champions League;
L.9.2. the UEFA Europa League;
L.9.3. the F.A. Cup;
L.9.4. the F.A. Community Shield;
L.9.5. the Football League Cup; or
L.9.6. competitions sanctioned by the County Association of which it is a member.

I guess it all depend on their County Association :spin

The EU stuff is a separate issue.

The Government itself can do what it wishes with its own national team.
The EU stuff just really pertains to the Euro tourney.

Add to this the political aspect of what looks like some big financial institutions in the US playing a role in this.
The English across the board do not want their game fked with by Americans. Its already obvious with some of the American owners, they must tread lightly. In other words parlament and Boris have a clear and simple mandate from the fans. Dont let this happen, and, you might be able to punish via the National team.

[lefty]

United Update
@UnitedsUpdate
Manchester United players revolted about the European Super League behind the scenes, with Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire both heavily involved - they took it to the very top and confronted Ed Woodward. (
@LeahSmith_
,
@StrettyNews
) #MUFC

Manchester United will be leaving the European Super League, with official confirmation set to be made before Friday. (
@LeahSmith_
,
@StrettyNews
) #MUFC

[Hoops Czar]

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[pgardn]

United Update
@UnitedsUpdate
Manchester United players revolted about the European Super League behind the scenes, with Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire both heavily involved - they took it to the very top and confronted Ed Woodward. (
@LeahSmith_
,
@StrettyNews
) #MUFC

Manchester United will be leaving the European Super League, with official confirmation set to be made before Friday. (
@LeahSmith_
,
@StrettyNews
) #MUFC

Good stuff.
This may be going bad very quickly for the super leaguers.

[lefty]

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[lefty]

Fuck, I was really looking forward to the ASG and , free kick contest and skills challenge

[pgardn]

Daniel Levy of Tottenham better follow suit very soon.
I mean this is the one team that does not belong in a Super League and their fans hate the idea.
They have not won anything in such a long time. Levy is an idiot for hiring coaches and this latest decision.
I dont know why I even like this team. Their fans absolutely hate this shit. They want to "just" win the fckn EPL sometime in the next 100 years.

[Hoops Czar]

United Update
@UnitedsUpdate
Manchester United players revolted about the European Super League behind the scenes, with Luke Shaw and Harry Maguire both heavily involved - they took it to the very top and confronted Ed Woodward. (
@LeahSmith_
,
@StrettyNews
) #MUFC

Manchester United will be leaving the European Super League, with official confirmation set to be made before Friday. (
@LeahSmith_
,
@StrettyNews
) #MUFC

That's funny considering United and Liverpool were two of the biggest proponents of the ESL in the first place.

[Hoops Czar]

Perez about to abandon the league he created. :lol
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[Jodelo]

:lol Let's hope it happens.

[lefty]

Cech was in the Chelsea fans rally

Respeck

[velik_m]

Hopefully UEFA goes full retribution mode and bans everyone involved with the project from football for life.

[lefty]

Hopefully UEFA goes full retribution mode and bans everyone involved with the project from football for life.

That’s not going to happen

Nobody will tune in to watch Bayern vs Wolverhampton in the CL

[ElNono]

:lol this was so predictable

[velik_m]

That’s not going to happen

Nobody will tune in to watch Bayern vs Wolverhampton in the CL

Not the clubs, the people. Let me dream of UEFA banning Kroenke from soccer.

[Hoops Czar]

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[lefty]

Not the clubs, the people. Let me dream of UEFA banning Kroenke from soccer.

Without the people watching UEFA will lose money , don’t forget the neutrals who want to watch marquee games

[Hoops Czar]

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[lefty]

:lol Barca fans who wanted Laporta back - if this is true

[Hoops Czar]

Super League is finished.

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[DAF86]

:lol Barca fans who wanted Laporta back - if this is true

Laporta has said that Barca's inclusion to the SL will be left to vote. Which basically means they are out. Anyways I doubt this shit will even get to that point.

[lefty]

Laporta has said that Barca's inclusion to the SL will be left to vote. Which basically means they are out. Anyways I doubt this shit will even get to that point.

Yeah now he’s shifting the responsibility

[Hoops Czar]

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[SAtown]

Fl:lolrentin:lol Perez

[SAtown]

But seriously, punish these teams. Fucking snakes

[Hoops Czar]

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[DAF86]

"Generating resources and stability for the full football pyramid" :lmao

[DAF86]

lefty's jinxing powers are so big that he jinxed capitalism :wow

[Spurtacular]

It triggered a lot of bitches; I now wish it had went through.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmkl_AoY6yE&ab_channel=NBCSports

[lefty]

lefty's jinxing powers are so big that he jinxed capitalism :wow

Still got it

[lefty]

:lmao this fucking guy


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[pgardn]

It triggered a lot of bitches; I now wish it had went through.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmkl_AoY6yE&ab_channel=NBCSports

Yeah?

Well you can go fck yourself snowflake.
”Oh I now wish it had gone through because people I don’t like want it gone.”
Think for yourself you mindless twit.

“Oh a black former player said the fans should hate something THEY ALREADY HATED”
You are the biggest piece of gutless shit on this planet, fckn coward.

stinking half wit... always checking back to see if it fits your irrational mindless memers you follow.

Triggered... come up with something new for once in your despicable life.




Ok then, carry on. Bitch is slapped.

[velik_m]

https://twitter.com/IanWright0/status/1384632207558516744

[Jodelo]

Juve, Atlético and Inter out. :lol

[lefty]

Juve, Atlético and Inter out. :lol

Juve? you meant Milan imo

Lmao Agnelli and Flo will play Fortnite against each other every week

[pgardn]

American owners of soccer teams got American fans of this sport, so different from the NFL, MLB, NBA. ALL WRONG. So fckn greedy they had no idea how endearing the game is because its not American. NOT full of fckn commercials, much more continuous flow, you have a clue when the game will actually end, its not 5 hours long with a commercial before and after every damn play in which the clock is stopped.
And the fans from little clubs actually have a geographic attraction to their team because they live in the area and right next to their rivals. Much more of a college football feel in a game that starts and ends with continuity.

The big teams remain consistently good but the smaller clubs are so much more attractive because the fans actually like their teams for more than the CL or international competitions. They are just looking for a few moments of glory. Beat the team next door this year, do well in the local tournament, yes the FA cup is somewhat like the NCAA basketball tourney in which a small team gets to play a big team and its fun. These big fat greedy idiots got it so wrong and its so satisfying seeing this thrown back in their faces.

Then throw in the World Cup and Euro competition and even just some big rivalry in South America and you have a product with legs. FIFA and so on are not exactly wonderful stewards of the game, but at least they have enough sense to understand the local flare. Maybe some day it will even get to the point where people young enough will go out and play on their own and then in their free time watch the big boys play.

Seriously, wtf is sport without some understanding of the game because you have actually tried it and can appreciate what it means to be really good at it, but not at the expense of finding a game yourself at your level. Get out of the house and on your feet and go kick a damn ball.

[Jodelo]

Juve? you meant Milan imo

Lmao Agnelli and Flo will play Fortnite against each other every week


Yeah but Agnelli said it's over (for now).

[lefty]

Yeah but Agnelli said it's over (for now).

Ah ok

[lefty]

But thanks to those asshats, UEFA will propose a CL reform and I’m not looking forward to that

[Jodelo]

But thanks to those asshats, UEFA will propose a CL reform and I’m not looking forward to that

That plan was made before the Super League was announced. Not the best format but eh, nothing we can do.

[lefty]

That plan was made before the Super League was announced. Not the best format but eh, nothing we can do.
Yeah obviously they knew where this was going (activating tinfoil hat mode : the SL was orchestrated by UEFA so they could justify a reform)

Same shit happened in the late 80s and early 90s with Berlusconi trying to form a superleague, leading to the Champions League format as we know it

It would be great if they coud back to the old formula where you only had the domestic Champion of each country and no group stage but we all knw that's not going to happem

[FrostKing]

American owners of soccer teams got American fans of this sport, so different from the NFL, MLB, NBA. ALL WRONG. So fckn greedy they had no idea how endearing the game is because its not American. NOT full of fckn commercials, much more continuous flow, you have a clue when the game will actually end, its not 5 hours long with a commercial before and after every damn play in which the clock is stopped.
And the fans from little clubs actually have a geographic attraction to their team because they live in the area and right next to their rivals. Much more of a college football feel in a game that starts and ends with continuity.

The big teams remain consistently good but the smaller clubs are so much more attractive because the fans actually like their teams for more than the CL or international competitions. They are just looking for a few moments of glory. Beat the team next door this year, do well in the local tournament, yes the FA cup is somewhat like the NCAA basketball tourney in which a small team gets to play a big team and its fun. These big fat greedy idiots got it so wrong and its so satisfying seeing this thrown back in their faces.

Then throw in the World Cup and Euro competition and even just some big rivalry in South America and you have a product with legs. FIFA and so on are not exactly wonderful stewards of the game, but at least they have enough sense to understand the local flare. Maybe some day it will even get to the point where people young enough will go out and play on their own and then in their free time watch the big boys play.

Seriously, wtf is sport without some understanding of the game because you have actually tried it and can appreciate what it means to be really good at it, but not at the expense of finding a game yourself at your level. Get out of the house and on your feet and go kick a damn ball.
:tu

There are a couple external factors. Americans move far more often. So allegiances are typically not that old. For example most people living in California moved here in the past few generations. Also ofcourse foreigners. Whom are more likely to cheer for the Bayern's, Man U's and Real's. But their children are often different and stick to the local club they were born & raised around.

Another is 3+ major sports (not including College) creates interesting fan bases. You end up shoulder to shoulder with rivals from other sports.

The situation in Europe is becoming more Americanized but this reassuring

[FrostKing]

Yeah obviously they knew where this was going (activating tinfoil hat mode : the SL was orchestrated by UEFA so they could justify a reform)

Same shit happened in the late 80s and early 90s with Berlusconi trying to form a superleague, leading to the Champions League format as we know it

It would be great if they coud back to the old formula where you only had the domestic Champion of each country and no group stage but we all knw that's not going to happem
What turned me off with the old system is the best club that particular season was not necessarily in the UCL. Because it was based on previous season results. Sometimes the following season there was major player movement. Even new managers.

[pgardn]

:tu

There are a couple external factors. Americans move far more often. So allegiances are typically not that old. For example most people living in California moved here in the past few generations. Also ofcourse foreigners. Whom are more likely to cheer for the Bayern's, Man U's and Real's. But their children are often different and stick to the local club they were born & raised around.

Another is 3+ major sports (not including College) creates interesting fan bases. You end up shoulder to shoulder with rivals from other sports.

The situation in Europe is becoming more Americanized but this reassuring

The only professional/semiprofessional games I have watched live were in England.
And just hanging around before the smaller games and EPL games was absolutely wonderfully refreshing for me. It was much more like HS football in the US in small towns. The town down the road would pack the buses and drive to opponents home ground and it was just pure fun. Of course the English were well known for taking it too far and the bad eggs used it to call up each other for a fight. They finally learned to leave most of the innocent people away from their need to brawl.
Now I did get to witness this as well and I will say there are a few who are much better at fighting than Americans. Maybe the lack of guns... but some looked like they had actually trained. I was impressed and disgusted at the same time.

[FkLA]

I understand why it got so much backlash, but in some way wouldn't it have improved parity in these leagues as well? I know theres the occasional surprise champ, but for the most part it's always the same champs over and over again. Especially in Spain. It's boring af imo.

It's like P5/G5 in college football. Part of me just wants a G5 playoff since a G5 team will never be allowed into the CFB playoff.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah?

Well you can go fck yourself snowflake.
”Oh I now wish it had gone through because people I don’t like want it gone.”
Think for yourself you mindless twit.

“Oh a black former player said the fans should hate something THEY ALREADY HATED”
You are the biggest piece of gutless shit on this planet, fckn coward.

stinking half wit... always checking back to see if it fits your irrational mindless memers you follow.

Triggered... come up with something new for once in your despicable life.




Ok then, carry on. Bitch is slapped.

You're mentally unstable. Sad.

[lefty]

What turned me off with the old system is the best club that particular season was not necessarily in the UCL. Because it was based on previous season results. Sometimes the following season there was major player movement. Even new managers.
The current formula is equally flawed if not worse

Team finishes 2nd in its domestic league, wins the Champions League the following year while finishig 2nd in its domestic league once again; Real Madrid is a perfect example of that
At least Real Madrid legit tried to win la Liga, but it's still flawed

What bothers me is teams that are not contenders for a domestic title that just want to get a 3rd ot 4th qualifying spot for the CL because that means they get a huge bonus if they clinch a spot and they don't even care about the CL in itself because they know they don't stand a chance anyway; all they want is that qualifying bonus

So yeah the current system is a joke compared to the old one if you ask me

[Hoops Czar]

Got to pay off those debts :lol

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[lefty]

« Barto out, we want Laporta back »

:lol

[pgardn]

You're mentally unstable. Sad.

So Donald Trump is still president? Is that right?
You have so far predicted he will assume the office again about 4 different times this year.
So is he in oh "man of sanity"?

[pgardn]

Got to pay off those debts :lol

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Good Lord...
Like they dont already play each other about 4 times a year...

[Spurtacular]

So Donald Trump is still president? Is that right?
You have so far predicted he will assume the office again about 4 different times this year.
So is he in oh "man of sanity"?

Leave your baggage in Political.

[Hoops Czar]

Good Lord...
Like they dont already play each other about 4 times a year...

Fixture list for 2022 ESL has been released... who wouldn't sign up for a weekly el-classico. :lol

week 1 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 2 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 3 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 4 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 5 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 6 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 7 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 8 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 9 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 10 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 11 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 12 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 13 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 14 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 15 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 16 Barcelona vs Real Madrid


Meanwhile,

https://www.blaugranagram.com/barcelona-preparing-to-offer-three-year-contract-to-lionel-messi/

[pgardn]

Fixture list for 2022 ESL has been released... who wouldn't sign up for a weekly el-classico. :lol

week 1 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 2 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 3 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 4 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 5 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 6 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 7 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 8 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 9 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 10 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 11 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 12 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 13 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 14 Real Madrid vs Barcelona
week 15 Barcelona vs Real Madrid
week 16 Barcelona vs Real Madrid


Meanwhile,

https://www.blaugranagram.com/barcelona-preparing-to-offer-three-year-contract-to-lionel-messi/

;)

[pgardn]

Leave your baggage in Political.

So your bizarre thinking pattern levels to sane when you get on the Soccer forum?

Yeah... Go sit next to that squash.

[Spurtacular]

So your bizarre thinking pattern levels to sane when you get on the Soccer forum?

Yeah... Go sit next to that squash.

Throw a tantrum if you want, soy boy.
Not my problem if you gonna fag up the soccer forum.
I won't be participating though.

[pgardn]

Throw a tantrum if you want, soy boy.
Not my problem if you gonna fag up the soccer forum.
I won't be participating though.

Sure you wont, you just did.
wtf is wrong with you... are you really this stupid (hint: dont answer)

[GAustex]

I like watching high quality soccer. EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga and mostly the better teams. Champions league and Euroleage is good too sometimes and the country events too. I watch the USMNT too.

What i do not get is how these rich dudes did not see this coming. It failed so miserably that it was or should have been predictable. These rich dudes should be thinking about these type of things. Is there some other long game at play here?

Is this thing not dead? Could rear back up in a similar but different form? Or are these dudes so tone deaf they thought they could do this?

[ElNono]

I like watching high quality soccer. EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga and mostly the better teams. Champions league and Euroleage is good too sometimes and the country events too. I watch the USMNT too.

What i do not get is how these rich dudes did not see this coming. It failed so miserably that it was or should have been predictable. These rich dudes should be thinking about these type of things. Is there some other long game at play here?

Is this thing not dead? Could rear back up in a similar but different form? Or are these dudes so tone deaf they thought they could do this?

It's a bit of everything. This thing was never going to happen, it was an excuse to show some sort of unity from the top teams to push for more money from UEFA via TV contracts and internet rights, etc.

They basically tried to pull a fast one thinking they could have leverage to sit down at the UEFA table and negotiate. Big mistake.

This has been brewing before the pandemic, but the pandemic gave them the perfect timing when most associations are having a hard time.

And yes, it was absolutely bound to fail and their first and usual mistake is that they completely forget about the fans and the players. It's the typical rich dude myopia, where they think in terms of moar money and nothing else.

This thing is dead and the only question remaining is if the teams are going to get sanctioned for it.

[FrostKing]

Atletico are back

[GAustex]

EPL/ManU fans ain’t letting go

[pgardn]

EPL/ManU fans ain’t letting go

This is what happens to well intentioned movements.
The English fans get dead drunk before a game and then pretend like they are keeping a valiant “get the owners out movement” when they are bored and drunk.

Now we might not get to see a really good game with deep background. Man U and Liverpool absolutely hate each other. This is a game for Man U to be able to keep Liverpool out of the CL.

Imagine if a returning Van Dyk, Salah et al will NOT be playing in the CL next year? This makes Man U salivate as it could be a possible breakup of a good bunch of players (probably not but the Man U fan can dream about the frustration)

And this is another illustration of why the Super League was such a bad idea. This intense rivalry is born out of English rivals. And why the CL, even though far from perfect, is beautiful via being selective. Man U is not in the CL this year and Liverpool was. Now it gets reversed? That’s good stuff.

Hope we get a game today.

[GAustex]

This is what happens to well intentioned movements.
The English fans get dead drunk before a game and then pretend like they are keeping a valiant “get the owners out movement” when they are bored and drunk.

Now we might not get to see a really good game with deep background. Man U and Liverpool absolutely hate each other. This is a game for Man U to be able to keep Liverpool out of the CL.

Imagine if a returning Van Dyk, Salah et al will NOT be playing in the CL next year? This makes Man U salivate as it could be a possible breakup of a good bunch of players (probably not but the Man U fan can dream about the frustration)

And this is another illustration of why the Super League was such a bad idea. This intense rivalry is born out of English rivals. And why the CL, even though far from perfect, is beautiful via being selective. Man U is not in the CL this year and Liverpool was. Now it gets reversed? That’s good stuff.

Hope we get a game today.
I go back to say again that the rollout should have predicted this. How could these rich dudes not seen this coming?
Something seems fishy about it all.

[pgardn]

I go back to say again that the rollout should have predicted this. How could these rich dudes not seen this coming?
Something seems fishy about it all.

The Man U fans are totally embarrassed.
bunch of drunk a holes make them all look bad.

F them for depriving us of this game.

[lefty]

Tap on the wrist :lol

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1390719633024499718?s=21