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BillMc
04-24-2021, 04:29 PM
https://www.espn.com/nba/preview/_/gameId/401307708


San Antonio Spurs (https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) (29-29, ninth in the Western Conference) vs. New Orleans Pelicans (https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/no/new-orleans-pelicans) (26-33, 11th in the Western Conference)New Orleans; Saturday, 8 p.m. EDT

BOTTOM LINE: Zion Williamson (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4395628/zion-williamson) leads New Orleans into a matchup with San Antonio. He's eighth in the league averaging 26.9 points per game.

The Pelicans are 14-17 in conference play. New Orleans is fifth in the Western Conference with 26.2 assists per game led by Lonzo Ball (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4066421/lonzo-ball) averaging 5.7.

The Spurs are 15-20 in Western Conference play. San Antonio ranks eighth in the Western Conference scoring 47 points per game in the paint led by DeMar DeRozan (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan) averaging 9.2.

The two teams square off for the third time this season. The Spurs defeated the Pelicans 117-114 in their last meeting on Feb. 27. DeRozan led San Antonio with 32 points, and Brandon Ingram (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3913176/brandon-ingram) paced New Orleans scoring 29 points.


TOP PERFORMERS: Williamson is averaging 26.9 points, 7.2 rebounds and 3.6 assists for the Pelicans. Ingram is averaging 21.5 points and 3.9 rebounds while shooting 37.1% over the last 10 games for New Orleans.

Derrick White (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3078576/derrick-white) is second on the Spurs averaging 2.4 made 3-pointers while scoring 15.4 points per game and shooting 34.6% from beyond the arc. Rudy Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005/rudy-gay) is averaging 1.1 made 3-pointers and scoring 9.9 points over the last 10 games for San Antonio.

LAST 10 GAMES: Pelicans: 4-6, averaging 114.9 points, 49.8 rebounds, 26.1 assists, 7.1 steals and 4.5 blocks per game while shooting 47.1% from the field. Their opponents have averaged 116.4 points on 47.0% shooting.

Spurs: 5-5, averaging 108.5 points, 44.2 rebounds, 26.1 assists, 7.7 steals and 6.1 blocks per game while shooting 46.4% from the field. Their opponents have averaged 104.2 points on 44.9% shooting.

INJURIES: Pelicans: James Johnson (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3999/james-johnson): out (adductor), Nickeil Alexander-Walker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4278039/nickeil-alexander-walker): out (ankle), Steven Adams (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2991235/steven-adams): day to day (ankle), Josh Hart (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3062679/josh-hart): out (thumb).
Spurs: DeMar DeRozan: out (quad), Trey Lyles (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136196/trey-lyles): out (ankle), Patty Mills (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills): out (rest), Dejounte Murray (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497/dejounte-murray): out (rest).

BillMc
04-24-2021, 04:33 PM
Two teams fighting for a play-in tournament berth face off on Friday night as the New Orleans Pelicans (https://www.sportskeeda.com/team/new-orleans-pelicans) host the San Antonio Spurs (https://www.sportskeeda.com/team/san-antonio-spurs). Inconsistency has cut the Pelicans three games adrift of the Golden State Warriors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_State_Warriors) in tenth place, while the Spurs' road performances, winning 16 of 26 games, has put them in a confident position to qualify for the postseason.Match details

Fixture - San Antonio Spurs vs New Orleans Pelicans | 2020-21 NBA Season.
Date & Time - Saturday, April 24th; 8:00 PM ET (Sunday, April 25th; 5:30 AM IST).
Venue - Smoothie King Center, New Orleans, LA
San Antonio Spurs preview

https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2021/04/d8235-16191942196749-800.jpgSan Antonio Spurs center Jakob PoeltlThe San Antonio Spurs are rolling along nicely toward the playoffs and could even steal the 8th seed from the Memphis Grizzlies.
While their offense hasn't exactly been electric, Popovich's side often finds a way to grind out results. Particularly recently when the San Antonio Spurs have topped the Suns, Mavs and Pacers in their last ten games - all on the road.
DeMar DeRozan has been his usual consistent self all year while Derrick White and Dejounte Murray have formed a decent partnership in the San Antonio Spurs backcourt, averaging 33.3 points together in their last ten games. Jakob Poeltl is also proving his worth and has ranked fourth among centers in that same time period for blocks per game with 2.3 while shooting at 66.7% from the floor.

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Key player - Derrick White

As the tweet below says, it was Derrick White's night on Thursday as he led the San Antonio Spurs past the Detroit Pistons. However, it has in fact been his month. In April, the 26-year-old is performing well above his season averages, putting up 18.5 points and 4.2 assists per night.
During that time, he also had a +/- rating of 7 which was greater than his San Antonio Spurs teammates and in the top-ten of all players who have played more than ten games this month. In their last ten games, White has scored more than 20 points on 4 occasions and shot at 85% from the free-throw line.


San Antonio Spurs predicted lineup

Point Guard - Dejounte Murray l Shooting Guard - Derrick White l Small Forward - Keldon Johnson l Power Forward - DeMar DeRozan l Center - Jakob Poeltl
New Orleans Pelicans preview


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https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/editor/2021/04/39ce8-16191941006123-800.jpgNew Orleans Pelicans forward Brandon IngramFor a team with so much talent, the New Orleans Pelicans have been disappointing this campaign. Zion Williamson and Brandon Ingram have performed at an All-Star level but haven't had enough to lift their side higher than 11th, a position the Pels have sustained or been worse than since the start of January.
While their offense is exciting to watch, a large part of the New Orleans Pelicans' problems have come on the defensive end, where they rank 27th for efficiency. Although they allow the least opposition rebounds, the Pelicans are conversely sat in the bottom-five for assists and 3-point efforts given up per game. It is going to take an almighty effort for them to even make it into a play-in tournament berth from here.
Key player - Zion Williamson

Although the New Orleans Pelicans are struggling, Zion Williamson has done his stock no harm this campaign and has been electric recently. In his last ten games, the 20-year-old put up 29.1 points and 7.6 rebounds. He also shot at close to 60% from the field during that time, and has done so all season, which is a staggering stat considering his mass shot attempts per night.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/basketball/san-antonio-spurs-vs-new-orleans-pelicans-prediction-match-preview-april-24th-2021-nba-season-2020-21

Leetonidas
04-24-2021, 04:34 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/53/f1/9253f1be103cfd70c79bf6011cf67cb9.gif

duncan2150
04-24-2021, 04:34 PM
If the Spurs win, they will be in the Play in at 90%.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 04:36 PM
Pelicans by 20.

BillMc
04-24-2021, 04:36 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/92/53/f1/9253f1be103cfd70c79bf6011cf67cb9.gif

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/96/00/2e9600a6208fdd77a1eb99463c0b922d.gif :bobo

Spurs oman
04-24-2021, 04:43 PM
A win takes the spurs to the play in

R. DeMurre
04-24-2021, 04:47 PM
Maybe the most meaningful game for the Spurs so far this year.

spurs10
04-24-2021, 05:00 PM
:flag: Go Spurs! This thread has a good winning vibe. International positive vibrations always help!

pad300
04-24-2021, 05:20 PM
...
INJURIES: Pelicans: James Johnson: out (adductor), Nickeil Alexander-Walker: out (ankle), Steven Adams: day to day (ankle), Josh Hart: out (thumb).
Spurs: DeMar DeRozan: out (quad), Trey Lyles: out (ankle), Patty Mills: out (rest), Dejounte Murray: out (rest).

Thye're resting Murray and Mills again?!? That's ... interesting...

GB20
04-24-2021, 05:29 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/96/00/2e9600a6208fdd77a1eb99463c0b922d.gif :bobo
:lmao

NASpurs
04-24-2021, 05:42 PM
1386085966356443137

ace3g
04-24-2021, 05:48 PM
1386085966356443137

I was sort of expected Gay to be out after not seeing him during any of the pre-game photos from Spurs twitter account.

PhantomDashCam
04-24-2021, 06:02 PM
I wonder if NO will be focused on tonight’s game when they have their eyes on a bigger prize:

https://twitter.com/PelicansNBA/status/1385720919272853513?s=20

Only in the World of ESPN would a play in team and a lottery lock be considered “Superheroes”...

That being said I enjoy most of the MCU, I’ll probably give it a look :lol

heyheymymy
04-24-2021, 06:46 PM
Rudy deserves a break anyway :flag:

BillMc
04-24-2021, 06:55 PM
Why did the Mods remove Riga Time? Grrr.....

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 06:56 PM
Game should be a win given that Rudy weighs this team down even worse than Patty. SHOULD BE. Depending on which Spurs team shows up.

They're going to give Zion all the space in the world to shoot. It was effective last game. Let's hope he hasn't been practicing his shot or doesn't go Shaq mode on the Spurs.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:00 PM
I wonder if NO will be focused on tonight’s game when they have their eyes on a bigger prize:

https://twitter.com/PelicansNBA/status/1385720919272853513?s=20

Only in the World of ESPN would a play in team and a lottery lock be considered “Superheroes”...

That being said I enjoy most of the MCU, I’ll probably give it a look :lol

Maybe the next expansion team will be called the Avengers. Las Vegas Avengers.

They should do a NBA / MCU movie crossover someday to rival Space Jam 2. We all know Space Jam 2 is going to be shitty.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:01 PM
https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1386106096952111105?s=19

emanueldavidginobili
04-24-2021, 07:04 PM
Want to see some KBD tonight, I think theres something there.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:09 PM
Want to see some KBD tonight, I think theres something there.

He's for sure talented. He's last priority though since he's on a two way contract. Will likely only play if a lot of players are out. I think he has a bigger role next season.

Sugus
04-24-2021, 07:13 PM
Let's go fellas. We need to tank, but a competitive win would be hard to say no to...

White on his stuff early on :spin

Sugus
04-24-2021, 07:14 PM
Nice read Jakob......

NASpurs
04-24-2021, 07:14 PM
Brandon Ingram was born looking stoned.

r0drig0lac
04-24-2021, 07:15 PM
amazing fastbreak

emanueldavidginobili
04-24-2021, 07:15 PM
Man Poeltl has been playing great as of late.

Obi Juan Kenobi
04-24-2021, 07:15 PM
Hell yeah Big Body!!!

Sugus
04-24-2021, 07:16 PM
Who the fuck are these Spurs :wow :lmao

NASpurs
04-24-2021, 07:16 PM
Best fastbreak possession of the season.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 07:16 PM
Keldon wearing a calf sleeve...

LeBowen
04-24-2021, 07:17 PM
Great start.

We have bad spacing, but Pels are something else. Straight from 1973.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 07:17 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1386111924723613697

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:19 PM
:lol how was that a foul on Keldon?

ace3g
04-24-2021, 07:21 PM
@ Spurs twitter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezx2Xx0VkAEpdHr?format=jpg&name=large

NASpurs
04-24-2021, 07:23 PM
:lol that pic is hilarious

Degoat
04-24-2021, 07:25 PM
Who takes Rudy gays minutes tonight, Devin or Luka?

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:29 PM
Bad transition defense

poopbox
04-24-2021, 07:30 PM
Hayes running to the corner like he was going to shoot a 3 :lol

GB20
04-24-2021, 07:31 PM
Every fucking time when Mill come in, our lead evaporated.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:32 PM
Mills giving the Spurs nothing again.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:34 PM
Jaxson Hayes was a serious waste of a first round pick (selected 8th) by the Pelicans.

Darius Bieber
04-24-2021, 07:35 PM
Spurs making the Pelicans look like a top 5 defensive team

spurs1990
04-24-2021, 07:35 PM
Good grief Derrick White what the hell was that

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:39 PM
Lonnie is a train wreck out there.

Degoat
04-24-2021, 07:41 PM
Lonnie looks like he has never played basketball before.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:44 PM
These DJ-White-Patty line-ups makes me believe there's room to draft another SG (Bouknight)

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:45 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: White should be the PG and Murray the SG.

Degoat
04-24-2021, 07:48 PM
Any time Zion or Ingram dont shoot the ball that's a win for the spurs defensively, it always seems like lonzo is out there chucking up shit lol

GB20
04-24-2021, 07:49 PM
Pop should put Luka on Zion

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:49 PM
These calls for Zion are ridiculous.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:50 PM
Because of Zion's superstar calls, we're seeing Luka tonight.

emanueldavidginobili
04-24-2021, 07:50 PM
Derrick looking explosive, glad he has his feet under him now

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:51 PM
:lmao that call

LeBowen
04-24-2021, 07:51 PM
Can Demar leave already?

r0drig0lac
04-24-2021, 07:51 PM
refs killing out there

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:52 PM
This is some blatant refball.

Degoat
04-24-2021, 07:52 PM
Just randomly thinking, pretty wild that Fultz and Lonzo went 1st and 2nd in the 2017 draft and Dwhite went 29 lol

r0drig0lac
04-24-2021, 07:52 PM
Jesus, it's a joke

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:53 PM
Let them motherfucking play

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:53 PM
Seriously, I've never seen such a mediocre team get calls like this. NBA is all-in on the Zion hype.

BlackAndWhite
04-24-2021, 07:53 PM
These refs

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:57 PM
:lol Adams getting that call

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:57 PM
Great defense by Luka!!

GB20
04-24-2021, 07:58 PM
Seriously, I've never seen such a mediocre team get calls like this. NBA is all-in on the Zion hype.
The nba wants the pelican in the playoffs

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:58 PM
:lmao how is that not an and-1?!

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 07:58 PM
Ugh DeMar with his signature meltdown incoming

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 07:58 PM
The nba wants the pelican in the playoffs

Yop. Not even trying to hide it.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 07:58 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1386121285562814473

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 08:00 PM
Zion not even trying to attempt to score on Luka because of his length

Edit: well there's his first shot

weeks
04-24-2021, 08:00 PM
Yop. Not even trying to hide it.
Desperate for ratings

r0drig0lac
04-24-2021, 08:02 PM
smart play by Luka

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 08:02 PM
LETS FUCKING GO LUKA

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 08:02 PM
Luka giving the Spurs some good minutes here.

duncan2k5
04-24-2021, 08:03 PM
Luuuukaaaaaa

SPURt
04-24-2021, 08:04 PM
Luka noice

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 08:04 PM
How the fuck can you even guard Zion? Even if you try to keep your arms up, he'll finesse his way in.

GB20
04-24-2021, 08:05 PM
Luka giving the Spurs some good minutes here.
Now he got bench because he was starting to play well, who understand Pop nowadays?

ace3g
04-24-2021, 08:05 PM
Pelicans don't realize if you put players in foul trouble - Pop is forced to expand the rotation. Ask Spurs fans what happens when the rotation is expanded.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY/200.gif

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 08:06 PM
Pelicans don't realize if you put players in foul trouble - Pop is forced to expand the rotation. Ask Spurs fans what happens when the rotation is expanded.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY/200.gif

Love to see me some KBD

ace3g
04-24-2021, 08:06 PM
https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1386123750836371458

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 08:09 PM
ESPNrefs badly want the Pels to get into the play-in game.

emanueldavidginobili
04-24-2021, 08:09 PM
Zion is tough, kid is absolutely going off this year, hard to believe he's only 20 years old scary stuff.

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 08:10 PM
You can't plow into a guy with your shoulder, even if he's not entirely planted. That's a charge.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 08:10 PM
Mills gets bulldozed, no call.

BillMc
04-24-2021, 08:11 PM
Luka is pretty useful even with mistakes and not scoring. Stretches the floor on offense, switches well on defense. Needs more time.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 08:11 PM
Can't watch the game, how come Patty has only taken 1 shot in 10 minutes?

Fusternino
04-24-2021, 08:11 PM
Would love to see some Lyles.

8sy21vd
04-24-2021, 08:11 PM
Shameful sequence by Zion's personal refs to end the half.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 08:13 PM
Halftime


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Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 08:13 PM
Would love to see some Lyles.

:lol

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 08:13 PM
Luka is pretty useful even with mistakes and not scoring. Stretches the floor on offense, switches well on defense. Needs more time.

He's definitely getting there.

heyheymymy
04-24-2021, 08:23 PM
I say let luka get another shift in 3Q

cd98
04-24-2021, 08:28 PM
If Pelicans don’t win this game, they are going to end all hopes of Spurs getting a good lottery pick.

GB20
04-24-2021, 08:30 PM
If we keep this pace every Spurs player will foul out by the fourth quarter.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 08:30 PM
If Pelicans don’t win this game, they are going to end all hopes of Spurs getting a good lottery pick.

With the Spurs' schedule the rest of the way I can see the Pels overtaking them regardless of the outcome of this game. Makes it a lot less likely though.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 08:34 PM
So Ball is Curry now?

ace3g
04-24-2021, 08:38 PM
another angle of Luka dunk

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1386132109744500739

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 08:41 PM
Ball on pace to hit 10 threes tonight.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 08:42 PM
Eubanks draws fouls so well now

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 08:43 PM
Lonnie is useless tonight.

Sugus
04-24-2021, 08:44 PM
Not a fan of any lineup featuring both Lonnie and Chucky. Undersized both at the 2 and 3, not to mention also the 4 with DeRozan at "PF". It's just asking to be bleeding points, no matter the offensive output

R. DeMurre
04-24-2021, 08:45 PM
iso iso iso

poopbox
04-24-2021, 08:46 PM
Steven Adams falling for a Ewbanks 12 foot pump fake :lmao

LeBowen
04-24-2021, 08:47 PM
Lonnie is useless tonight.

With him and Patty not being able to generate any points, there's no doubt in Pop's mind Rudy is vital for this team.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 08:49 PM
Drewquille O'Neal

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 08:49 PM
Lead would be gone if it weren't for Eubanks being able to draw fouls. Not sure what the fuck Pop is thinking with this lineup.

Degoat
04-24-2021, 08:49 PM
Lonnie infuriates me more than anybody on the team, I've legit noticed improvement from all of the young guys except Lonnie

cd98
04-24-2021, 08:49 PM
Bates getting minutes over Luka?

ace3g
04-24-2021, 08:50 PM
2:38 - 3rd


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74

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 08:52 PM
Lonnie acts like such a wuss when he's on the floor with DeMar. DeMar passes it to him, he passes it back to DeMar. Rinse, repeat. Nothing like the game without him where he was way more aggressive. Like dude, come on.

GB20
04-24-2021, 08:53 PM
What has Luka done to Pop? Greg really doesn’t like the kid and I wonder why?

NASpurs
04-24-2021, 08:54 PM
Lonnie’s being picked on by NOLA.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 08:54 PM
Lonnie why the FUCK DID YOU PASS IT BACK TO DEMAR FOR A 3

ace3g
04-24-2021, 08:56 PM
Don't normally do this but who???

Naji Marshall

Sugus
04-24-2021, 08:56 PM
Lonnie acts like such a wuss when he's on the floor with DeMar. DeMar passes it to him, he passes it back to DeMar. Rinse, repeat. Nothing like the game without him where he was way more aggressive. Like dude, come on.

Bold of you to assume it's not part of the coaching scheme... :lol

Kurgan
04-24-2021, 08:56 PM
:lol Lonnie couldn't pass the ball back to Demar fast enough there

Playing like a pussy tonight

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 08:56 PM
Pelicans have all the momentum now. This one's over.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 08:57 PM
29.0 - 3rd


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NASpurs
04-24-2021, 08:57 PM
Good loss, on to the next game.

Degoat
04-24-2021, 08:58 PM
Lonnies working to be the new tank commander.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 08:59 PM
End of 3rd


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Leetonidas
04-24-2021, 08:59 PM
Why is Mills even out there. Dude has been listless lately and when he isn't hitting his shot he'd worthless

Kurgan
04-24-2021, 08:59 PM
So tired of seeing Fatty and Demar. Defense is guaranteed to be shit when those two are on the court at the same time

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 09:00 PM
35 fouls between both teams and the 4th quarter is only beginning

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:00 PM
Can't be said enough how much Lonnie's awful play sunk the team tonight. Spurs would be up double digits if he could do anything right.

BlackAndWhite
04-24-2021, 09:00 PM
When his shot isn't falling, his confidence disappears quickly

timtonymanu
04-24-2021, 09:00 PM
Let’s go Pels!

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 09:01 PM
Need to get some momentum going. Running 4-down for DeRozan constantly ain't gonna cut it.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:01 PM
On the bright side I'm becoming more and more impressed with Eubanks.

GB20
04-24-2021, 09:01 PM
Why is Mills even out there. Dude has been listless lately and when he isn't hitting his shot he'd worthless
Relax dude!! He is in there to keep the other team in the game.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 09:05 PM
Lonnie holds onto the ball until 8 seconds is left on the clock to pass it to the biggest non-playmaker on the team, Patty

Sugus
04-24-2021, 09:06 PM
Lonnie holds onto the ball until 8 seconds is left on the clock to pass it to the biggest non-playmaker on the team, Patty

We're getting Bonnie tonight :depressed

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:06 PM
Just feels like the dam is gonna burst at any moment and the Pels are gonna race up to a 15 point lead.

LeBowen
04-24-2021, 09:07 PM
Methodical meltdown, as per usual.

Both teams are bad, tough to watch at times.

NASpurs
04-24-2021, 09:07 PM
Lonnie holds onto the ball until 8 seconds is left on the clock to pass it to the biggest non-playmaker on the team, Patty

It’s probably called the “DeRozan Special” in the playbook.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 09:07 PM
So does Zion drink ten energy drinks before every game?

NASpurs
04-24-2021, 09:08 PM
Just feels like the dam is gonna burst at any moment and the Pels are gonna race up to a 15 point lead.

Can only hope so!

prayingdog.jpg

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:09 PM
:lmao Mills and Lonnie taking turns being tank commanders

Kurgan
04-24-2021, 09:10 PM
Fatty turnover followed up with a missed 3 on back to back possessions

ace3g
04-24-2021, 09:10 PM
Now Patty decides to take shots in the 4th?

ace3g
04-24-2021, 09:12 PM
7:35 - 4th


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4
T


SA
31
30
24
7
92


NO
24
28
32
4
88

Kurgan
04-24-2021, 09:12 PM
Patty, Murray, White, Derozan at the same time...Pop sure loves his 4 guard lineups

Degoat
04-24-2021, 09:14 PM
Dwhite is so under appreciated!

ace3g
04-24-2021, 09:15 PM
How long does Patty stay out of the game.

7:35

https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100

Keldon Johnson enters the game for Patty Mills

92 - 88

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:18 PM
At least the tank is alive and well.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 09:19 PM
Derrick fucking White

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:20 PM
White keeping the Spurs alive.

Trill Clinton
04-24-2021, 09:27 PM
Demar

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 09:27 PM
Wow, Lonzo's been hitting threes all night.

NASpurs
04-24-2021, 09:27 PM
Horrible win, on to the next one.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 09:27 PM
19.7 - 4th


1
2
3
4
T


SA
31
30
24
23
108


NO
24
28
32
21
105

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:30 PM
If Zion touches the ball here, foul him.

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 09:30 PM
Game won at the line.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:31 PM
:lol Pelicans tanked right there

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 09:32 PM
It felt like every play run in the 4th was a DeMar ISO. What's the NBA record for number of ISOs in a quarter?

8sy21vd
04-24-2021, 09:33 PM
DP

RC_Drunkford
04-24-2021, 09:33 PM
It felt like every play run in the 4th was a DeMar ISO. What's the NBA record for number of ISOs in a quarter?

that's why we need to reach the playoffs. So the young guys can learn from DeMar

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 09:33 PM
Likely puts the Spurs in the playoffs. Obvs not yet, but a big win for that goal.

heyheymymy
04-24-2021, 09:34 PM
Lol at quinndary doin the pelican wing flaps on the bench after that ddr dagger at :30

8sy21vd
04-24-2021, 09:34 PM
ISO King Demar comes up clutch but that play at the end, just hold it dude lol. White's defense is the most impressive part of his improved play. It's phenomenal as he made life very hard for Ingram. Good to see Murray hit those 2 FTs to seal it as well.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 09:34 PM
Final


1
2
3
4
T


SA
31
30
24
25
110


NO
24
28
32
24
108

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 09:34 PM
ISO King Demar comes up clutch but that play at the end, just hold it dude lol. White's defense is the most impressive part of his improved play. It's phenomenal as he made life very hard for Ingram.

Yes, but honestly Ingram usually disappears down the stretch.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:34 PM
Welp, Spurs prolly locked themselves into the play-in with tonight's win, but with the schedule as tough as it is coming up who knows.

emanueldavidginobili
04-24-2021, 09:34 PM
It looked bleak for DeMar early on and looked like his emotions would take over but he came through.

cjw
04-24-2021, 09:34 PM
That puts the Spurs up 5 in the loss column on the Pels with 17 games to play, plus gives the Spurs the tiebreaker. So Pels need to lose six less times rest of the way than the Spurs.

Would take a pretty bad collapse or the Pels getting really hot for Spurs not to be in the play-in.

BillMc
04-24-2021, 09:35 PM
Victory!

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 09:35 PM
Welp, Spurs prolly locked themselves into the play-in with tonight's win, but with the schedule as tough as it is coming up who knows.

People keep saying the Spurs have a tough schedule, yet almost every team they've faced has had their star out due to injury :lmao

ace3g
04-24-2021, 09:38 PM
https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100Spurs



Starters
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. DeRozan (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan)SF
37
10-21
0-3
12-12
2
5
7
8
1
0
5
2
+5
32


K. Johnson (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4395723/keldon-johnson)SF
34
5-12
2-7
2-4
1
8
9
2
0
0
1
4
-4
14


J. Poeltl (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3134908/jakob-poeltl)C
37
3-7
0-0
2-2
2
5
7
3
1
5
1
3
+5
8


D. White (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3078576/derrick-white)PG
38
8-16
4-8
2-2
1
4
5
2
2
1
1
5
+2
22


D. Murray (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907497/dejounte-murray)PG
35
4-13
1-3
2-2
2
5
7
5
3
0
1
1
+1
11


Bench
MIN
FG
3PT
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF
+/-
PTS


D. Eubanks (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3914285/drew-eubanks)PF
11
1-1
0-0
6-9
1
3
4
0
0
2
3
3
-5
8


L. Samanic (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4423309/luka-samanic)PF
6
1-1
0-0
1-1
0
2
2
0
0
0
0
2
+2
3


K. Bates-Diop (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136779/keita-bates-diop)SF
2
0-0
0-0
0-0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
+4
0


P. Mills (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4004/patty-mills)PG
20
2-5
1-4
0-0
0
3
3
2
2
0
1
0
-4
5


L. Walker IV (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4277890/lonnie-walker-iv)SG
14
2-7
0-4
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
4
1
-1
4


D. Vassell (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4395630/devin-vassell)SG
6
1-2
1-2
0-0
0
1
1
0
0
0
0
2
+5
3


G. Dieng (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2534781/gorgui-dieng)C
DNP-COACH'S DECISION


T. Jones (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/4395626/tre-jones)PG
DNP-COACH'S DECISION


Q. Weatherspoon (https://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3907358/quinndary-weatherspoon)SG
DNP-COACH'S DECISION


TEAM

37-85
9-31
27-32
9
37
46
22
9
8
17
23

110




43.5%
29.0%
84.4%

poopbox
04-24-2021, 09:39 PM
Stan Van Panic might be the only coach in the league worse than Pop in the clutch

justinandimcool
04-24-2021, 09:39 PM
best win of the year!!!

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 09:41 PM
That puts the Spurs up 5 in the loss column on the Pels with 17 games to play, plus gives the Spurs the tiebreaker. So Pels need to lose six less times rest of the way than the Spurs.

Would take a pretty bad collapse or the Pels getting really hot for Spurs not to be in the play-in.

I really don't see the Pelicans change their fortune. They're a badly constructed team with poor chemistry. Only Zion is dragging them forward. The rest are looking for greener pastures, except for Brandon Ingram, who is just stoned.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 09:42 PM
People keep saying the Spurs have a tough schedule, yet almost every team they've faced has had their star out due to injury :lmao

Spurs have become the team you rest players against.

DAF86
04-24-2021, 09:43 PM
that's why we need to reach the playoffs. So the young guys can learn from DeMar

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2XY6nPW53DYENwgIbDvgac1pO_ISUM 21-iA&usqp=CAU

spurs10
04-24-2021, 09:44 PM
Victory! Victory!!

Floyd Pacquiao
04-24-2021, 09:45 PM
Didn’t watch just popped in to say spurs prob win by 20 without _eRozan

PhantomDashCam
04-24-2021, 09:47 PM
Demar will get the credit for his play down the stretch from the media (and to an extent, rightfully so). Derrick White, however, was just phenomenal. Reminder, this guy is still on his rookie contract.

- Loving the way both DJ and KJ are taking those open 3s atm. They’re not always going down but it’s encouraging as the coaching staff
are letting them shoot it. Important if they resign DDR in the off-season.

- Lonnie had a forgettable outing and seemed to be really down on himself checking out from his final appearance in the 4th.
Hope he bounces back strong next game.

- Patty really looks gassed. I mean he’s not even giving the hustle plays atm. I wish him well but hard to keep him out there with his shooting struggles if he’s not hustling like he should.

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 09:48 PM
With a healthy White, the Spurs are comfortably in the playoffs this year and would have been in last year.

Kurgan
04-24-2021, 09:56 PM
The Spurs bench would be much improved if Fatty just sat the rest of the year. He's not even hitting his threes so why even give him 20 mins every night? Let Vassell play instead

GAustex
04-24-2021, 09:56 PM
Great game for DDR

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 09:58 PM
Would have been a 20 point loss had Rudy played.

RC_Drunkford
04-24-2021, 09:58 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR2XY6nPW53DYENwgIbDvgac1pO_ISUM 21-iA&usqp=CAU

:lmao I forgot the blue font

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 10:00 PM
https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1386149491867332609?s=19

MVPoeltl

RC_Drunkford
04-24-2021, 10:00 PM
With a healthy White, the Spurs are comfortably in the playoffs this year and would have been in last year.

White played 68 games last year. I don't know what you are talking about

duncan2k5
04-24-2021, 10:02 PM
White played 68 games last year. I don't know what you are talking about
Some ppl view White as some savior...he is simply a good rotation player...will never be an all star...don't tell that to Spurstalk tho

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 10:06 PM
White played 68 games last year. I don't know what you are talking about

He was hurt in 2019 and that derailed the team's momentum.

8sy21vd
04-24-2021, 10:12 PM
Some ppl view White as some savior...he is simply a good rotation player...will never be an all star...don't tell that to Spurstalk tho

He's not a #1 option by any means but he's playing all-NBA defense lately and scoring around 19 points per game this month. He's a damn good starter that can do a little bit of everything and still has upside if he improves his 3. The concerns I have are health and playing in an iso offense where he doesn't handle the ball enough. I think Denver might try to trade for him in the off season with Jamal Murray's injury. He would do very well with Jokic (a skilled big man) and could slide over to the 2 when J. Murray returns. But I hope he and DJ stay and continue to improve.

PhantomDashCam
04-24-2021, 10:17 PM
Some ppl view White as some savior...he is simply a good rotation player...will never be an all star...don't tell that to Spurstalk tho

Saviour might be a stretch but don’t think an all-star bid is out of the realms of possibility anymore.
His story is remarkable. Hope he stays healthy and continues to play at this high a level.

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 10:20 PM
White was easily the straw that stirred the drink last year. When he was hobbled, the season was different.

You can see the difference now that he's getting his rhythm back.

ace3g
04-24-2021, 10:29 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1069403041940602880/Bb1X4Bjr_normal.jpg
Tom Petrini realTomPetrini
(https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini) 1m (https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1386160233928544257)
Remember the game Pop had to pull Jak late against the Kings because they were hacking him? That was March 31 Since then he’s 20-26 from the stripe, 77% Averaging 11p, 8r, 2a, 2b, 1s, a crucial starter who seems to have addressed his Achilles heel

Jackson Floyd jacksonKENS5
(https://twitter.com/JacksonKENS5)

After shooting 31% from the FT line over the first have the season, Jakob is 60% from the line since the All-Star Break -- and nearly 70% in the last 15 games.

Slippy
04-24-2021, 10:32 PM
Demar will get the credit for his play down the stretch from the media (and to an extent, rightfully so). Derrick White, however, was just phenomenal. Reminder, this guy is still on his rookie contract.

- Loving the way both DJ and KJ are taking those open 3s atm. They’re not always going down but it’s encouraging as the coaching staff
are letting them shoot it. Important if they resign DDR in the off-season.

- Lonnie had a forgettable outing and seemed to be really down on himself checking out from his final appearance in the 4th.
Hope he bounces back strong next game.

- Patty really looks gassed. I mean he’s not even giving the hustle plays atm. I wish him well but hard to keep him out there with his shooting struggles if he’s not hustling like he should.

Pop went off at lonnie in the first half. Too many mid air last second pass offs to nodbody so it was understandable. Problem is we got passive Lonnie in the second half.

DWhite is back to full form. Great game on both ends.

Demar was huge offensively again just wish we'd get less iso ball to close the game from him. This time they went in.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 10:44 PM
Games like this shows why I wouldn't want the Spurs to waste their pick on another center. I think we're fine with both Poeltl & Eubanks (and Dieng, if he stays).

CGD
04-24-2021, 10:49 PM
Games like this shows why I wouldn't want the Spurs to waste their pick on another center. I think we're fine with both Poeltl & Eubanks (and Dieng, if he stays).

Agree, but please not another guard. Grab the best 6’8 wing possible

GAustex
04-24-2021, 10:50 PM
they need a couple 6'8" dudes that can shoot and run and defend

spurraider21
04-24-2021, 10:54 PM
Some ppl view White as some savior...he is simply a good rotation player...will never be an all star...don't tell that to Spurstalk tho
Lol there were people calling Bertans a future all star

Sugus
04-24-2021, 11:02 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1069403041940602880/Bb1X4Bjr_normal.jpg
Tom Petrini realTomPetrini
(https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini) 1m (https://twitter.com/RealTomPetrini/status/1386160233928544257)
Remember the game Pop had to pull Jak late against the Kings because they were hacking him? That was March 31 Since then he’s 20-26 from the stripe, 77% Averaging 11p, 8r, 2a, 2b, 1s, a crucial starter who seems to have addressed his Achilles heel

Jackson Floyd jacksonKENS5
(https://twitter.com/JacksonKENS5)

After shooting 31% from the FT line over the first have the season, Jakob is 60% from the line since the All-Star Break -- and nearly 70% in the last 15 games.

:cry but ST experts told me he couldn't shoot FTs for shit, was overpaid, and would never improve :cry

Sugus
04-24-2021, 11:04 PM
Games like this shows why I wouldn't want the Spurs to waste their pick on another center. I think we're fine with both Poeltl & Eubanks (and Dieng, if he stays).

Hmm, if Dieng stays, I'm with you - if not, we should definitely try to nab a prospect of shooting C to have in the pipeline. It's just too good of a combination/complimentary opposite to Jakob's no-shooting, defense-oriented play to pass up on, not to mention it opens up the court and (if Pop were a better coach) gives the coach a chance to mix up the playstyle when outside shots aren't falling from your guards. Maybe with the second round pick? I haven't done much scouting at all on this upcoming class tbqh...

ace3g
04-24-2021, 11:06 PM
Lakers didn't help us out by losing to Mavs in B2B games.

Robz4000
04-24-2021, 11:20 PM
Lakers didn't help us out by losing to Mavs in B2B games.

Always great to see the Lakers lose though.

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 11:21 PM
https://youtu.be/plh0aJBqHbU

Who else thinks Zion is the next star to bolt to another city? I'm guessing the Knicks....

BlackAndWhite
04-24-2021, 11:21 PM
If he didn't start the season injured in 18-19, we would have won over 50 games. Our play always get a lot better when he's healthy.

Degoat
04-24-2021, 11:30 PM
Guys I figured it out, Pop is trying to run Patty mills into the ground so that once the olympics start Australia won’t be able to beat team USA lol

pad300
04-24-2021, 11:38 PM
Games like this shows why I wouldn't want the Spurs to waste their pick on another center. I think we're fine with both Poeltl & Eubanks (and Dieng, if he stays).

Dude, we need a #1 option who's on a championship level. If there's a guy who can reach that level who's a C (or anything else), you draft him and trade whoever else to make it work...

Dejounte
04-24-2021, 11:47 PM
Dude, we need a #1 option who's on a championship level. If there's a guy who can reach that level who's a C (or anything else), you draft him and trade whoever else to make it work...

The bigs you describe cannot be attained without a top 5 pick. I don't remember the last #1 option big that wasn't drafted top 5. In fact, there aren't many #1 option big these days anyway. Embiid.... That's it. Davis is more like a #2, he never carried a team by himself. The Spurs aren't finding a #1 option Center with their #13th pick.

Edit: I forgot Jokic :lmao but he's an exception to the rule

People need to let go of their Tim Duncan/ David Robinson fantasies. The NBA has moved on from centers.

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 11:56 PM
Always great to see the Lakers lose though.

Lakers are close to stumbling into a play-in game.

Mr. Body
04-24-2021, 11:57 PM
Great to see Poeltl's improvement at the line. His shot looks so much better, it's amazing. Still want him to integrate his off-hand for stability, but it's like night and day otherwise.

siraulo23
04-25-2021, 12:15 AM
spurs had a really rough stretch but it looks like theyre back to being decent on defense not giving up 125+ every night

spurs10
04-25-2021, 12:44 AM
Guys I figured it out, Pop is trying to run Patty mills into the ground so that once the olympics start Australia won’t be able to beat team USA lol CIA :pop:

Barfunk
04-25-2021, 01:02 AM
Shit

Barfunk
04-25-2021, 01:04 AM
Welp, Spurs prolly locked themselves into the play-in with tonight's win, but with the schedule as tough as it is coming up who knows.

Plus Pop will try and throw some games to remind us who runs the show.

SAGirl
04-25-2021, 01:08 AM
I am really glad to have the real Derrick White back. He has found his rhythm at a good moment for the team.
:flag:

Thomas82
04-25-2021, 01:35 AM
https://youtu.be/plh0aJBqHbU

Who else thinks Zion is the next star to bolt to another city? I'm guessing the Knicks....

I think either the Knicks or Lakers.

ace3g
04-25-2021, 02:50 AM
https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN/status/1386158165163532292

cjw
04-25-2021, 06:16 AM
I really don't see the Pelicans change their fortune. They're a badly constructed team with poor chemistry. Only Zion is dragging them forward. The rest are looking for greener pastures, except for Brandon Ingram, who is just stoned.

Should edit - it’s 13 to play, not 17. Spurs have a brutal schedule down the stretch, but even if they go something like 3-10, the Pels will have to go 8-4.

Most important remaining game is against the Blazers for the H2H tiebreaker. The Spurs should already have one more game in the loss column and the tiebreaker locked up per the NBAs L2M report and given Poeltl has turned into Steve Nash from the FT line ;)

Mavs and Grizzlies both own tiebreaker, so even tougher to catch.

Ocotillo
04-25-2021, 07:29 AM
https://youtu.be/plh0aJBqHbU

Who else thinks Zion is the next star to bolt to another city? I'm guessing the Knicks....

Indulge me for a minute but wouldn’t he look good as our starting 4?

BillMc
04-25-2021, 12:16 PM
Indulge me for a minute but wouldn’t he look good as our starting 4?

He reminds me of Barkley. Too heavy and powerful for smaller players, too quick and skilled to be guarded by most bigs.

Degoat
04-25-2021, 12:19 PM
I’m probably in the minority, but Zion doesn’t impress me that much

John B
04-25-2021, 12:27 PM
https://youtu.be/plh0aJBqHbU

Who else thinks Zion is the next star to bolt to another city? I'm guessing the Knicks....
That’s not cool of Zion to show that much giddiness. Small markets will always be a doormat for this diva superstars

ace3g
04-25-2021, 03:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-xjpQKj0ms

RC_Drunkford
04-25-2021, 06:41 PM
Hmm, if Dieng stays, I'm with you - if not, we should definitely try to nab a prospect of shooting C to have in the pipeline. It's just too good of a combination/complimentary opposite to Jakob's no-shooting, defense-oriented play to pass up on, not to mention it opens up the court and (if Pop were a better coach) gives the coach a chance to mix up the playstyle when outside shots aren't falling from your guards. Maybe with the second round pick? I haven't done much scouting at all on this upcoming class tbqh...

:wtf

DAF86
04-25-2021, 06:51 PM
The bigs you describe cannot be attained without a top 5 pick. I don't remember the last #1 option big that wasn't drafted top 5. In fact, there aren't many #1 option big these days anyway. Embiid.... That's it. Davis is more like a #2, he never carried a team by himself. The Spurs aren't finding a #1 option Center with their #13th pick.

Edit: I forgot Jokic :lmao but he's an exception to the rule

People need to let go of their Tim Duncan/ David Robinson fantasies. The NBA has moved on from centers.

What a seamless transition would have been going from Tim to Jokic as the franchise player.

KobesAchilles
04-25-2021, 10:48 PM
:cry but ST experts told me he couldn't shoot FTs for shit, was overpaid, and would never improve :cry
Just proves he is a lazy piece of shit during the off-season. There was literally no reason for him to start the year shooting 22% from the free throw line in empty gyms with no fans. The only possible explanation is that he put zero work on it during the off-season. I’m glad Spurs coaching lit a fire up his ass. Not every player is extremely dedicated to the game and need to be hounded on. Jak is this type of player

KobesAchilles
04-25-2021, 10:54 PM
What a seamless transition would have been going from Tim to Jokic as the franchise player.
Yeah he was the biggest steal ever for a second rounder. Especially if he wins MVP this year. The dude would’ve been perfect player to have after Tim retired. Kawhi probably would’ve stayed too seeing as Jokic loves passing the ball and spreading the floor. He seems to have zero ego and just a love for the game.

Sugus
04-29-2021, 06:25 PM
Just proves he is a lazy piece of shit during the off-season. There was literally no reason for him to start the year shooting 22% from the free throw line in empty gyms with no fans. The only possible explanation is that he put zero work on it during the off-season. I’m glad Spurs coaching lit a fire up his ass. Not every player is extremely dedicated to the game and need to be hounded on. Jak is this type of player

Sorry for the delay in answer KA, been away from the forum for a few days.

This is a wacky take tbh. There's literally no proof whatsoever that he put little work in the offseason, like, not even a hint of it. His FTs being bad at the start of the season could've been a mental thing, an undisclosed hand injury that's healed now, a "yips" situation (especially with the burden of knowing other teams will force you into that situation, it's much more daunting than posters here make it seem). If he truly had been a "lazy piece of shit", why didn't the rest of his game suffer? His finishing is as good (or as bad depending on how you feel about Jakob :lol) as it's ever been, his screen-setting also, his athleticism/conditioning weren't visibly affected (when it should be the first thing to be hampered by lack of training; much more so than FTs, which are performed standing still and are a muscle repetition thing that he's been doing his whole life).

You're similar to that poster that just insists Jakob is "lazy", even when stats show the complete opposite and how he routinely contests the most shots of anyone on the court, sets the most screens and gets screen assists at elite rates, etc. You've just convinced yourself that it's true that Jakob did not workout in the off-season, without any tangible proof, and whatever Jakob does is a reinforcement of that idea: when he was shooting bad, it's because he hadn't practiced, and now that he's found his groove, it must be because of the coaching staff for some reason (you don't think they were "lighting a fire" on him when he was shooting 20% from the line?), and totally not because he got out of his own head.......

Weird.

KobesAchilles
04-29-2021, 08:16 PM
Sorry for the delay in answer KA, been away from the forum for a few days.

This is a wacky take tbh. There's literally no proof whatsoever that he put little work in the offseason, like, not even a hint of it. His FTs being bad at the start of the season could've been a mental thing, an undisclosed hand injury that's healed now, a "yips" situation (especially with the burden of knowing other teams will force you into that situation, it's much more daunting than posters here make it seem). If he truly had been a "lazy piece of shit", why didn't the rest of his game suffer? His finishing is as good (or as bad depending on how you feel about Jakob :lol) as it's ever been, his screen-setting also, his athleticism/conditioning weren't visibly affected (when it should be the first thing to be hampered by lack of training; much more so than FTs, which are performed standing still and are a muscle repetition thing that he's been doing his whole life).

You're similar to that poster that just insists Jakob is "lazy", even when stats show the complete opposite and how he routinely contests the most shots of anyone on the court, sets the most screens and gets screen assists at elite rates, etc. You've just convinced yourself that it's true that Jakob did not workout in the off-season, without any tangible proof, and whatever Jakob does is a reinforcement of that idea: when he was shooting bad, it's because he hadn't practiced, and now that he's found his groove, it must be because of the coaching staff for some reason (you don't think they were "lighting a fire" on him when he was shooting 20% from the line?), and totally not because he got out of his own head.......

Weird.
Check out his stats to begin the season vs now. He sucked the first month. Even Dejounte admitted as much. He wasn’t even that good defensively like the first 15 games. There’s no yips to start the season. Nobody was fouling him on purpose to start off the season bc nobody had ever shot 18% from the line before. Dude looked out of shape and like he didn’t work on his game at all during the off-season. You are the only person here who says he didn’t start off the season bad

Sugus
04-30-2021, 09:35 AM
Check out his stats to begin the season vs now. He sucked the first month. Even Dejounte admitted as much. He wasn’t even that good defensively like the first 15 games. There’s no yips to start the season. Nobody was fouling him on purpose to start off the season bc nobody had ever shot 18% from the line before. Dude looked out of shape and like he didn’t work on his game at all during the off-season. You are the only person here who says he didn’t start off the season bad

I'm not saying he didn't start the season bad - simply that starting a season bad =/= being a "lazy piece of shit" and doing no work in the off-season. Is it so hard to get that point? Do you seriously think every player who has a bad start to a season means they put in 0 work previous to it, with no other external factors being possible explanations? Legit question, tbh.

E: anyhow, it's behind us now. I'm glad Jakob's playing well, whether he "put in the work" before the season, or during it. The improvement is marked. I just don't understand the gripe of users to run with whatever personal story they make up without any confirmation, and repeating it as gospel (just like Jakob "injuring" White recently..... I'm starting to notice a trend here....).

KobesAchilles
04-30-2021, 10:29 AM
I'm not saying he didn't start the season bad - simply that starting a season bad =/= being a "lazy piece of shit" and doing no work in the off-season. Is it so hard to get that point? Do you seriously think every player who has a bad start to a season means they put in 0 work previous to it, with no other external factors being possible explanations? Legit question, tbh.

E: anyhow, it's behind us now. I'm glad Jakob's playing well, whether he "put in the work" before the season, or during it. The improvement is marked. I just don't understand the gripe of users to run with whatever personal story they make up without any confirmation, and repeating it as gospel (just like Jakob "injuring" White recently..... I'm starting to notice a trend here....).
I understand your point. How the two don't have to necessarily correlate with one another. To me, in this case, I think it does. There are slow starts to a season for players and I understand that. But some players just don't have that drive. Danny Green after we won the chip. Bobo. LMA didn't do shit to stay in shape in the off-season. Some players are gym rats while other aren't and use their free time to party or vacation or just have a relaxing summer. I believe that Poeltl falls into the Danny, Bobo, LMA mold more so than a Murray or DDR mold. I just can't see a reason why he can shoot 18% from the line with zero fans in games that are basically scrimmage like if he shot 100 free throws a day every day during the offseason. I don't see a way he can play that bad to start the year, if he put in the work during the offseason. Practice and repetition build confidence. Jak started playing better after getting reps and having practices with the Spurs.

I still want the Spurs to move off from him. I know you still love the guy and that's fine. But I just don't want our starting center to be so useless offensively. It would be different if he could actually guard the other all-star big men with any success. That way i could stomach it like I did Bruce (although he was a big reason why we lost in 04 and 06 in the playoffs). But the dude doesn't even seem to make them work. And we don't have the horses to make up for his short comings bc our own horses have short comings of their own. I don't want a 90's ball center who can't score like an Ostertag.

The Jak injuring White thing was a fun troll spot for me btw :lol

Sugus
04-30-2021, 06:11 PM
I understand your point. How the two don't have to necessarily correlate with one another. To me, in this case, I think it does. There are slow starts to a season for players and I understand that. But some players just don't have that drive. Danny Green after we won the chip. Bobo. LMA didn't do shit to stay in shape in the off-season. Some players are gym rats while other aren't and use their free time to party or vacation or just have a relaxing summer. I believe that Poeltl falls into the Danny, Bobo, LMA mold more so than a Murray or DDR mold. I just can't see a reason why he can shoot 18% from the line with zero fans in games that are basically scrimmage like if he shot 100 free throws a day every day during the offseason. I don't see a way he can play that bad to start the year, if he put in the work during the offseason. Practice and repetition build confidence. Jak started playing better after getting reps and having practices with the Spurs.

Few factors here. Firstly, this off-season was the shortest and weirdest in a long, long time (maybe ever? the lockout seasons were weird so IDK but probably top-3 at least). Not to mention COVID stuff, protocols, etc. Lots of players came into the season "weird", kind of out of shape (cough cough LMA, as you said), and many more are getting injured due to insufficient rest, training, and heavy schedule. So I'm hesitant to draw too many conclusions out of it. Next - I remember Jak having a "slow start" to last year's season as well, but not in the FT department, so while I think there's merit to your theory, I wouldn't say the book's closed on him. And mainly because I don't think FTs are something that you actually "lose" if you don't practise for like, three weeks to a month or so...? But I'll keep an eye on him for next season's start, for sure. If he's really in that LMA tier of not working on his game, he's much less of an asset moving forward, because his ceiling gets lower and even his floor grows lower.

[QUOTE=KobesAchilles;10494245]I still want the Spurs to move off from him. I know you still love the guy and that's fine. But I just don't want our starting center to be so useless offensively. It would be different if he could actually guard the other all-star big men with any success. That way i could stomach it like I did Bruce (although he was a big reason why we lost in 04 and 06 in the playoffs). But the dude doesn't even seem to make them work. And we don't have the horses to make up for his short comings bc our own horses have short comings of their own. I don't want a 90's ball center who can't score like an Ostertag.

I'm actually, despite being a bit of a Jak fan, not opposed to the Spurs starting another C. Jakob's (even though this forum at large cannot comprehend it) being paid like a bench big, and he's way above average in that role; an offensive big like KAT or even Ayton would be dandy for the Spurs, not to mention a passing one á-la Jokic. I usually don't like this discussion because, when people talk about Jakob like that, they usually immediately start talking about how "useless" he is and how they want him off the team, which would be incredibly stupid due to all the things he provides. But I'm not so blind as to see his offense is really teetering on non-starter level, depending on the day. My gripe with wanting another C is further complex: I don't want just about any C to replace Jak. I specifically want a lottery talent big to take his spot. I've talked before about how, if you want a center that plays both ends of the court dominantly, can defend AND shoot, and rebound, you need to look for him in the top-2 of any given draft; they rarely, if ever, fall out of that spot, because it's such a rare and in-demand archetype (again, KAT, Ayton, etc).

Jakob right now is the perfect "placeholder" at the C spot. Elevates the rest of their teammates, covers up for most of their lazy/bad defense, does all the little dirty things. You know the saying, if it ain't broke, don't fix it? Well, currently, I don't think the C position is "broken" for the Spurs - so if you're upgrading for Jak, you gotta make sure it's worth it. Just putting him on the bench for a shooting big that doesn't play a lick of D isn't any better than what he does, and creates a new problem instead. That's my current take on Jak, tbh.


The Jak injuring White thing was a fun troll spot for me btw :lol

:lol you got me. I'm a step closer towards mentally labeling you a full-time troll, tbh... :drunk

KobesAchilles
04-30-2021, 06:44 PM
Ayton would be awesome but the Suns are going to max him. I want Bridges myself as our SF and to give him a RFA max when we can. Don’t re-sign DDR, Gay, or Mills. Tank for a big man next year and then we will be pretty decent going forward.

my thoughts on Jak are he is a solid 20-25 minute a game guy. His offense is just not good enough to justify him playing anymore than that. He has performed to his contract. But we need an upgrade. I think we are the Houston Rockets next year in the fact that we will have a new owner, GM, and coach. Time to get this rebuild started already