View Full Version : Where is the outrage?
CosmicCowboy
04-30-2021, 02:11 PM
Biden bans travel from India?
Why does he hate Hindu's and Sikh's?
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 02:12 PM
didnt know ducks had access to this account
ElNono
04-30-2021, 02:14 PM
Should ban travel from Texas, tbh
CosmicCowboy
04-30-2021, 02:18 PM
Seems like only last year that banning travel from China was "xenophobic fear-mongering". (Direct Biden quote)
GAustex
04-30-2021, 02:19 PM
This whole pandemic thing would be magically better with the new administration in place
hater
04-30-2021, 02:30 PM
CAlled it
That indian double mutant is a motherfucker
:lol imagine thinking covid vaccines will work forever :lol
CosmicCowboy
04-30-2021, 02:40 PM
CAlled it
That indian double mutant is a motherfucker
:lol imagine thinking covid vaccines will work forever :lol
more like only having 10% of 1.35 billion vaccinated and a super crowded population.
ElNono
04-30-2021, 02:43 PM
Seems like only last year that banning travel from China was "xenophobic fear-mongering". (Direct Biden quote)
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/27/donald-trump/fact-checking-whether-biden-called-trump-xenophobi/
didnt know ducks had access to this account
SnakeBoy
04-30-2021, 02:47 PM
We can only hope that SARS-COV-2 recombines with another betacoronavirus to create an entirely new SARS-COV-3 pandemic, so Joe Biden can show the world how it should be done.
CosmicCowboy
04-30-2021, 02:50 PM
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/27/donald-trump/fact-checking-whether-biden-called-trump-xenophobi/
From your own link:
On March 18, Trump tweeted: "I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the ‘borders’ from China - against the wishes of almost all. Many lives were saved. The Fake News new narrative is disgraceful & false!"
Biden replied the same day: "Stop the xenophobic fear-mongering. Be honest. Take responsibility. Do your job."
Note "xenophobic fear mongering"
ElNono
04-30-2021, 02:51 PM
From your own link:
It doesn't say anything about travel restrictions... Biden also said:
"We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency."
He was spot on as well...
hater
04-30-2021, 02:52 PM
more like only having 10% of 1.35 billion vaccinated and a super crowded population.
Africa is next.
Aids came from africa.
The tripple african mutant will close up shop
ElNono
04-30-2021, 02:53 PM
Calling it the Chinese Virus or Kung Flu is at the very least xenophobic as well...
GAustex
04-30-2021, 02:56 PM
If we nuke the entire planet will that stop the virus?
ElNono
04-30-2021, 02:57 PM
If we nuke the entire planet will that stop the virus?
We could start with the Middle East to see how effective that is, IMO.
hater
04-30-2021, 03:05 PM
If we nuke the entire planet will that stop the virus?
Most likely not.
Winehole23
04-30-2021, 03:16 PM
There wasn't much outrage the first time around, but CC still hasn't washed the sand out of his drawers.
LkrFan
04-30-2021, 03:17 PM
Biden bans travel from India?
Why does he hate Hindu's and Sikh's?
What's up with your boy?
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1388192826995978240?s=19
:lol
hater
04-30-2021, 03:42 PM
There wasn't much outrage the first time around, but CC still hasn't washed the sand out of his drawers.
:lmao joe dirt
https://twitter.com/Lawrenc45073629/status/1300880963887562753?s=19
hater
04-30-2021, 03:43 PM
There wasn't much outrage the first time around, but CC still hasn't washed the sand out of his drawers.
:lmao whine
https://twitter.com/ofriel/status/1284060598670700546?s=19
daboom1
04-30-2021, 03:43 PM
gotheem
hater
04-30-2021, 03:44 PM
:lmao
https://twitter.com/ChinaMustPay/status/1254607246304186368?s=19
hater
04-30-2021, 03:44 PM
gotheem
:lmao
Too easy peasy
Adam Lambert
04-30-2021, 03:49 PM
Trump: "These Chinese ching chongs gave us their Chinese Virus which is making slant-eyed gooks out of the great white race, so I'm shutting off travel from China faster than you can say 'Solly Cholly, love you long time soy sauce."
Biden: "That's xenophobic"
Conservatives: "Joe Biden calls Chinese travel ban xenophobic"
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 03:52 PM
:lmao joe dirt
https://twitter.com/Lawrenc45073629/status/1300880963887562753?s=19
he was 100% right
banning travel did not stop the virus. we needed a plan to combat it.
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 03:52 PM
:lmao whine
https://twitter.com/ofriel/status/1284060598670700546?s=19
:lmao 58 follower twitter account
daboom1
04-30-2021, 03:55 PM
he was 100% right
banning travel did not stop the virus. we needed a plan to combat it.
Operation Warp Speed
Trump
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 03:56 PM
Operation Warp Speed
Trump
operation warp speed was a good thing :tu
too bad in the meantime, until we had a vaccine rollout, we did a monumentally shitty job controlling the spread of covid
daboom1
04-30-2021, 03:57 PM
:lmao 58 follower twitter account
spurraider21 only gets his information from blue anons with lots of "followers" (bots)
The hive mind thingy^
daboom1
04-30-2021, 03:57 PM
operation warp speed was a good thing :tu
too bad in the meantime, until we had a vaccine rollout, we did a monumentally shitty job controlling the spread of covid
What was your plan?
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 03:58 PM
spurraider21 only gets his information from blue anons with lots of "followers" (bots)
The hive mind thingy^
no, but when the claim is that there was massive amount of public outrage... a random guy on twitter isnt great evidence of that
ElNono
04-30-2021, 04:00 PM
no, but when the claim is that there was massive amount of public outrage... a random guy on twitter isnt great evidence of that
America's education system failed Qhris, tbh
hater
04-30-2021, 04:02 PM
:lmao 58 follower twitter account
:lmao twitter follower number smack :lol
pgardn
04-30-2021, 04:02 PM
America's education system failed Qhris, tbh
I dont think you can fail at something that does not have a chance in the first place.
Chrissy----> Education...
hater
04-30-2021, 04:02 PM
Trump: "These Chinese ching chongs gave us their Chinese Virus which is making slant-eyed gooks out of the great white race, so I'm shutting off travel from China faster than you can say 'Solly Cholly, love you long time soy sauce."
Biden: "That's xenophobic"
Conservatives: "Joe Biden calls Chinese travel ban xenophobic"
Fake news
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 04:03 PM
What was your plan?
been better prepared by not disbanding the literal pandemic response team
earlier, stronger lockdowns (combined with earlier stimulus to help keep people afloat)
faster rollout of testing
early contact tracing before it spread too much
encouraging earlier mask mandates
much clearer messaging on the danger of the virus, as opposed to downplaying it and promising it will magically go away
not promoting fake "cures" which cause people to think they'll be safe even if infected
better combatting of misinformation that was spreading around the internet, particularly by POTUS during his regular addresses
off the top of my head
hater
04-30-2021, 04:04 PM
been better prepared by not disbanding the literal pandemic response team
earlier, stronger lockdowns
faster release of testing
early contact tracing before it spread too much
encouraging earlier mask mandates
much clearer messaging on the danger of the virus, as opposed to downplaying it and promising it will magically go away
not promoting fake "cures" which cause people to think they'll be safe even if infected
better combatting of misinformation that was spreading around the internet, particularly by POTUS during his regular addresses
off the top of my head
Too bad CDC fucked up the initial testing
Oh yeah that was Trumps fault too :lmao
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 04:04 PM
:lmao twitter follower number smack :lol
no, but when the claim is that there was massive amount of public outrage... a random guy on twitter isnt great evidence of that
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 04:05 PM
Too bad CDC fucked up the initial testing
Oh yeah that was Trumps fault too :lmao
#stillwithhim
Dirks_Finale
04-30-2021, 04:06 PM
Calling it the Chinese Virus or Kung Flu is at the very least xenophobic as well...
So, I'll give you that the kung flu label is childish and ridiculous. :lol
But we called and still call the Spanish flu from 100 years ago, the Spanish flu. And that's not xenophobic, why?
daboom1
04-30-2021, 04:06 PM
been better prepared by not disbanding the literal pandemic response team
earlier, stronger lockdowns (combined with earlier stimulus to help keep people afloat)
faster rollout of testing
early contact tracing before it spread too much
encouraging earlier mask mandates
much clearer messaging on the danger of the virus, as opposed to downplaying it and promising it will magically go away
not promoting fake "cures" which cause people to think they'll be safe even if infected
better combatting of misinformation that was spreading around the internet, particularly by POTUS during his regular addresses
off the top of my head
Fauci said masks were worthless, and it would take 14 days to slow the spread.
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 04:06 PM
Fauci said masks were worthless, and it would take 14 days to slow the spread.
he never said they were worthless. and i never called fauci perfect.
Dirks_Finale
04-30-2021, 04:10 PM
he never said they were worthless. and i never called fauci perfect.
He initially lied to the public in fear of people hoarding N95's. He should have at least encouraged standard cloth masks instead, if they do have an effect.
Now he is fully vaccinated and encourages wearing 3 masks :lol
pgardn
04-30-2021, 04:12 PM
This whole pandemic thing would be magically better with the new administration in place
It is better here.
India had a president that completely ignored warnings and actually had the gall to explain what a great job he did for his country. This happened before Biden.
daboom1
04-30-2021, 04:14 PM
It is better here.
Yeah open borders are great for a pandemic.
spurraider21
04-30-2021, 04:16 PM
He initially lied to the public in fear of people hoarding N95's. He should have at least encouraged standard cloth masks instead, if they do have an effect.
Now he is fully vaccinated and encourages wearing 3 masks :lol
tl;dr he never called masks worthless
pgardn
04-30-2021, 04:16 PM
He initially lied to the public in fear of people hoarding N95's. He should have at least encouraged standard cloth masks instead, if they do have an effect.
Now he is fully vaccinated and encourages wearing 3 masks :lol
Yeah on the mask part I'll take over cautious v. flaunting by having indoor meetings with hundreds of people maskless.
WE KNOW this is airborne, but the red team is tough and will die for our economy thankyoudanpatrick.
pgardn
04-30-2021, 04:17 PM
Yeah open borders are great for a pandemic.
You got the numbers showing the number of Canadians and Mexicans that have brought the virus to US dumbass instead of the other way round? And its not bad getting direct neighbors vaccinated as well, but they are dirty rapists so its a trade off.
pgardn
04-30-2021, 04:19 PM
What was your plan?
And you plan was prayer.
And no thoughts followed.
daboom1
04-30-2021, 04:20 PM
You got the numbers showing the number of Canadians and Mexicans that have brought the virus to US dumbass instead of the other way round? And its not bad getting direct neighbors vaccinated as well, but they are dirty rapists so its a trade off.
I wish I could be as blissfully ignorant as you in your Matrix blue pill world.
baseline bum
04-30-2021, 04:20 PM
So, I'll give you that the kung flu label is childish and ridiculous. :lol
But we called and still call the Spanish flu from 100 years ago, the Spanish flu. And that's not xenophobic, why?
Should be called the Kansas Flu.
Ef-man
04-30-2021, 04:29 PM
America's education system failed Qhris, tbh
Bad programmers failed qchrisy.
He should have avoided hiring Nigerian programmers.
Those bastards always prey on the gullible, retards thingy’s.
GAustex
04-30-2021, 04:57 PM
It is better here.
India had a president that completely ignored warnings and actually had the gall to explain what a great job he did for his country. This happened before Biden.
Seems the same to me. Masks everywhere and only the stupid righties are opening shit up. Partisan.
hater
04-30-2021, 05:13 PM
He initially lied to the public in fear of people hoarding N95's. He should have at least encouraged standard cloth masks instead, if they do have an effect.
Now he is fully vaccinated and encourages wearing 3 masks :lol
I dont even give him the benefit ogmf the doubt that he was talking about n95
He actually thought masks didnt work :lmao
Killed a lot of americans due to his stupidity
hater
04-30-2021, 05:14 PM
tl;dr he never called masks worthless
#stillwithhim
ChumpDumper
04-30-2021, 06:02 PM
#stillwithhimYes you are.
Winehole23
04-30-2021, 06:08 PM
:lmao whine
https://twitter.com/ofriel/status/1284060598670700546?s=19there wasn't even a dedicated thread here. came and went in a week
hater
04-30-2021, 06:10 PM
Yes you are.
#stillwithher
hater
04-30-2021, 06:10 PM
there wasn't even a dedicated thread here. came and went in a week
:lmao judging by spurstalk threads :lmao
Winehole23
04-30-2021, 06:12 PM
:lmao judging by spurstalk threads :lmao
Trumpies mention this supposed outrage more often now than libs did last year, tbh.
It hurt you, didn't it?
hater
04-30-2021, 06:25 PM
Trumpies mention this supposed outrage more often now than libs did last year, tbh.
It hurt you, didn't it?
No
But the fact that media is silent now is very telling
Laughable tbqh :lol
I didnt give a shit last year. Fuck Dump
Id actually will have a party the day Trump dies. The fact that u idiots lenmings call me a Trumptard is hilarious :lol
Muppets
Winehole23
04-30-2021, 06:29 PM
the media isn't silent, that's piffle.
you just want the coverage to pander to what you already believe, or hew to a phony baloney "both sides" consistency.
Adam Lambert
04-30-2021, 06:36 PM
No
But the fact that media is silent now is very telling
Laughable tbqh :lol
I didnt give a shit last year. Fuck Dump
Id actually will have a party the day Trump dies. The fact that u idiots lenmings call me a Trumptard is hilarious :lol
Muppets
You're not a Trump fan. You're a chaos fan. You cheer for destabilization and disorder. You pine for World War 3 on a weekly basis.
So no, you're not a Trumptard. You're worse. You're a fetishist for all of the things that people who hate America loved about Trump being its president. Cool existence bro!
Adam Lambert
04-30-2021, 06:38 PM
When your own life is shit it's therapeutic to fantasize about the beshitting of the rest of the world's lives.
hater
04-30-2021, 08:37 PM
You're not a Trump fan. You're a chaos fan. You cheer for destabilization and disorder. You pine for World War 3 on a weekly basis.
So no, you're not a Trumptard. You're worse. You're a fetishist for all of the things that people who hate America loved about Trump being its president. Cool existence bro!
And youre a troll
So there
Winehole23
04-30-2021, 08:39 PM
:lol
ElNono
04-30-2021, 10:25 PM
So, I'll give you that the kung flu label is childish and ridiculous. :lol
But we called and still call the Spanish flu from 100 years ago, the Spanish flu. And that's not xenophobic, why?
If you actually care to look, most textbooks call it the 1918 Influenza Pandemic or 1918 Pandemic. A simple google search for "Spanish Flu" will tell you that much.
However, Spanish Flu was another name it was called back in 1918, so it stuck for historical reasons. Would actually be good if we learned from the past instead of making the same mistake every 100 years.
DarrinS
04-30-2021, 10:31 PM
About the time a travel ban is enforced, it's usually too late.
RandomGuy
05-03-2021, 10:48 AM
Seems like only last year that banning travel from China was "xenophobic fear-mongering". (Direct Biden quote)
Depends on what the guidance is from the CDC.
If they are saying its pointless then I would go with the science.
What does the science say on this one?
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 11:30 AM
So, I'll give you that the kung flu label is childish and ridiculous. :lol
But we called and still call the Spanish flu from 100 years ago, the Spanish flu. And that's not xenophobic, why?
That's even more innacurate then kung flu because it never came from Spain, the Spanish were the only ones that kept track of it while the world just ignored it because of WW1 just ending, which is where the spanish flu actually came from
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 11:34 AM
Calling it the Chinese Virus or Kung Flu is at the very least xenophobic as well...
No it's not, is "chinese food" xenopobic? Is "chinese zodiac" xenophobic? No the virus came from China calling it a chinese virus is just what it is. The WHO fears it leads to xenophobia, which if fucking stupid, because we all know it came from china and not actually acknowledging it, just means when china does this again, we'll just let them off the hook again. but that doesn't mean the label is xenophobic
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 11:39 AM
No it's not, is "chinese food" xenopobic? Is "chinese zodiac" xenophobic? No the virus came from China calling it a chinese virus is just what it is. The WHO fears it leads to xenophobia, which if fucking stupid, because we all know it came from china and not actually acknowledging it, just means when china does this again, we'll just let them off the hook again. but that doesn't mean the label is xenophobicLooks like it led to something....
An analysis of police department statistics has revealed that the United States experienced a significant hike in anti-Asian hate crimes last year across major cities.
The analysis released by the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino, this month examined hate crimes in 16 of America’s largest cities. It revealed that while such crimes in 2020 decreased overall by 7 percent, those targeting Asian people rose by nearly 150 percent.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/anti-asian-hate-crimes-increased-nearly-150-2020-mostly-n-n1260264
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 11:42 AM
Looks like it led to something....
An analysis of police department statistics has revealed that the United States experienced a significant hike in anti-Asian hate crimes last year across major cities.
The analysis released by the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino, this month examined hate crimes in 16 of America’s largest cities. It revealed that while such crimes in 2020 decreased overall by 7 percent, those targeting Asian people rose by nearly 150 percent.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/anti-asian-hate-crimes-increased-nearly-150-2020-mostly-n-n1260264
And? Does that not mean it's not a chinese virus? Letting the actions of idiots drive how we do things is a problem not a solution
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 11:45 AM
And? Does that not mean it's not a chinese virus? Letting the actions of idiots drive how we do things is a problem not a solutionI don't think encouraging the actions of idiots is the best course of action.
That's its own problem.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 11:54 AM
I don't think encouraging the actions of idiots is the best course of action.
That's its own problem.
The virus comes from China it's a Chinese virus. Not calling it a chinese virus lets China off the hook, which is exactly what they want, they want us to forget how they absolutely fucked the world with how they cut corners and ignored it. So when this blows over the wet markets will open back up, they will be unregulated like they were before and more than likely another disease will rise, because this isn't even the first time it happened.
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 12:00 PM
The virus comes from China it's a Chinese virus. Not calling it a chinese virus lets China off the hook, which is exactly what they want, they want us to forget how they absolutely fucked the world with how they cut corners and ignored it. So when this blows over the wet markets will open back up, they will be unregulated like they were before and more than likely another disease will rise, because this isn't even the first time it happened.:lol no one forgets where this came from.
It's like you just discovered the ChiComs aren't good people.
Bogie
05-03-2021, 12:01 PM
Seems like only last year that banning travel from China was "xenophobic fear-mongering". (Direct Biden quote)
trumper gonna trump. Thanks for showing your truth yet again, trumper
Bogie
05-03-2021, 12:04 PM
:lmao
Too easy peasy
youre on the same side as qhis and spurtacular.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 12:15 PM
:lol no one forgets where this came from.
Not calling it Chinese virus helps the Chinese government, I'd prefer not to help them because they did this to the world.
It's like you just discovered the ChiComs aren't good people.
This is an incorrect statement, don't know how you came up with it
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 12:20 PM
Not calling it Chinese virus helps the Chinese government, I'd prefer not to help them because they did this to the world.It neither hurts nor helps the ChiComs.
Anyone who doesn't know they are shit aren't in a position to do anything about them.
It does hurt the victims of the elevated hate crimes.
hater
05-03-2021, 12:22 PM
Not calling it Chinese virus helps the Chinese government, I'd prefer not to help them because they did this to the world.
This is an incorrect statement, don't know how you came up with it
Its the Trump virus tbqh. Noone cares where it came from in the end. But who has contributed to its growth. Ttump and us americans made thebv8rus what it is today. Its the Trump virus or also could be refered to as US virus imo
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 12:26 PM
Its the Trump virus tbqh. Noone cares where it came from in the end. But who has contributed to its growth. Ttump and us americans made thebv8rus what it is today. Its the Trump virus or also could be refered to as US virus imoWell, I'll agree with that as far as the lesson that should be learned is that there was so much more we could've done as a nation and that is what we must do going forward.
Take care of our own shit first because China isn't going to do anything.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 12:40 PM
It neither hurts nor helps the ChiComs.
Anyone who doesn't know they are shit aren't in a position to do anything about them.
It does hurt the victims of the elevated hate crimes.
Like I said before I don't believe in dictating policy based off the actions of fools. I mean not calling it chinese virus ignores where is came from and I believe someone in this thread said this
:lol no one forgets where this came from.
It looks like these idiots already know where it came from, right so just calling it something else really wouldn't change how they respond because they already know it's from China.
Its the Trump virus tbqh. Noone cares where it came from in the end. But who has contributed to its growth. Ttump and us americans made thebv8rus what it is today. Its the Trump virus or also could be refered to as US virus imo
We can't divorce ourselves from the actions of our president, the american response was appalling, mostly fueled by the actions of the president but also based on the ignorance we gained by not having outbreaks of this magnitude of the las 5+ decades. Sadly some in the media are already trying to wash it away with this new "don't judge idiots for what they believed" push i've seen lately
boutons_deux
05-03-2021, 12:43 PM
Coronavirus traces found in March 2019 sewage sample, Spanish study shows
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science/coronavirus-traces-found-in-march-2019-sewage-sample-spanish-study-shows-idUSKBN23X2HQ
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 12:45 PM
Like I said before I don't believe in dictating policy based off the actions of fools. I mean not calling it chinese virus ignores where is came from:lol no it doesn't.
Everyone knows where it came from.
All it does is make people feel better about their prejudices.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 12:59 PM
:lol no it doesn't.
Everyone knows where it came from.
All it does is make people feel better about their prejudices.
You believe a name makes people feel better about their prejudices?
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 01:00 PM
You believe a name makes people feel better about their prejudices?Absolutely.
Expresses them.
Reinforces them.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 01:06 PM
Absolutely.
Expresses them.
Reinforces them.
So you believe then that we should put policies kowtowing around what they believe, I don't. Because reinforced prejudices mean the prejudices were already there so kowtowing does nothing
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 01:07 PM
So you believe then that we should put policies kowtowing around what they believe, I don't. Because reinforced prejudices mean the prejudices were already there so kowtowing does nothingRailing about calling it the China virus is not a policy.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 01:12 PM
Railing about calling it the China virus is not a policy.
Not calling it "Chinese virus" is absolutely policy
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 01:17 PM
Not calling it "Chinese virus" is absolutely policyOh, if you want to be that broad. OK.
Then it's good policy that will avoid getting more Americans needlessly assaulted and murdered.
Millennial_Messiah
05-03-2021, 01:26 PM
First thing I approve of Biden doing so far, tbh.
Now if he'd make this ban permanent, I'd actually go out and actually get a voter's registration and fight to get him re-elected, seriously. India is a dirty country full of filth and subpar workers with fake resumes and steal hundreds of thousands to millions of (mostly well-paying) jobs from local US Citizens who are unemployed and/or underemployed.
Of course big tech would have a cow because they'd actually have to hire American college grads to these high paid roles instead of the cheaper dirtier Indian slime that's wrecked the US tech sector for a couple decades now, tbh.
Millennial_Messiah
05-03-2021, 01:27 PM
Its the Trump virus tbqh. Noone cares where it came from in the end. But who has contributed to its growth. Ttump and us americans made thebv8rus what it is today. Its the Trump virus or also could be refered to as US virus imo
That's the most ignorant statement on the web. It started in WuhanPERIOD.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 01:36 PM
Oh, if you want to be that broad. OK.
Then it's good policy that will avoid getting more Americans needlessly assaulted and murdered.
There's no proof of that
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 01:39 PM
There's no proof of thatHistorically, rhetoric from political leaders has had effects on political folowers.
There's no proof calling it the China virus changes China.
Quite the opposite has been proved.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 01:53 PM
Historically, rhetoric from political leaders has had effects on political folowers.
There's no proof calling it the China virus changes China.
Quite the opposite has been proved.
But the policy is to not call it Chinese virus, has done nothing to stop attacks on Asian people. And there's no proof that calling it the Chinese virus will make it worse.
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 01:54 PM
But the policy is to not call it Chinese virus, has done nothing to stop attacks on Asian people. And there's no proof that calling it the Chinese virus will make it worse.Trump's policy was to call it the China virus.
Did it change China?
Yes or no.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 01:56 PM
Trump's policy was to call it the China virus.
Did it change China?
Yes or no.
It's not officially called the Chinese virus and yet Asians are being attacked
Yes or no?
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 01:57 PM
It's not called the Chinese virus and yet Asians are being attacked
Yes or no?The policy just changed so who knows what the change in hate crimes will be over time.
Calling it China virus was policy for almost a year.
China didn't change.
Hate crimes against AAPI rose.
What's the point in keeping a failed policy?
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 02:50 PM
The policy just changed so who knows what the change in hate crimes will be over time.
Calling it China virus was policy for almost a year.
China didn't change.
Hate crimes against AAPI rose.
What's the point in keeping a failed policy?
Not calling it chinese virus is WHO policy and had been this whole time it didnt stop shit .
It doesn't say anything about travel restrictions... Biden also said:
"We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency."
He was spot on as well...
Biden did in fact call the president “xenophobic” in a tweet sent on Feb. 1 — the day after the ban — though he did not specifically note the travel restrictions.
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 05:19 PM
Not calling it chinese virus is WHO policy and had been this whole time it didnt stop shit .
Why keep your failed policy of calling it the China virus?
Joseph Kony
05-03-2021, 05:29 PM
I wish I could be as blissfully ignorant as you in your Matrix blue pill world.
Arent you a god loving jeebotard? how ironic :lmao
Adam Lambert
05-03-2021, 05:32 PM
It's not officially called the Chinese virus and yet Asians are being attacked
Yes or no?
WTF does "not officially called the Chinese virus" even mean?
ElNono
05-03-2021, 05:40 PM
No it's not, is "chinese food" xenopobic? Is "chinese zodiac" xenophobic? No the virus came from China calling it a chinese virus is just what it is. The WHO fears it leads to xenophobia, which if fucking stupid, because we all know it came from china and not actually acknowledging it, just means when china does this again, we'll just let them off the hook again. but that doesn't mean the label is xenophobic
Context matters. If you're in the middle of blaming/demonizing the Chinese over everything that's wrong and decadent with America, then "Chinese Virus" is throwing fuel to the fire. Kung Flu is flat out trolling.
Ebola is named after a river in Africa where the virus was first detected. Nobody calls it the Zaire virus, the African virus or the N****r virus, because it does have different connotations, even though at least the first two are probably accurate.
Unfortunately, we've painfully learned this country is full of gullible people that will do very stupid things if mislead by conmen...
ElNono
05-03-2021, 05:43 PM
Biden did in fact call the president “xenophobic” in a tweet sent on Feb. 1 — the day after the ban — though he did not specifically note the travel restrictions.
Right. Trump having a history of xenophobia (and misogynist, racism, etc) is not really arguable? Or is that what's being argued here?
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 05:57 PM
Right. Trump having a history of xenophobia (and misogynist, racism, etc) is not really arguable? Or is that what's being argued here?Biden insulted Trump and some posters still haven't washed the sand out of their drawers.
The putative accuracy of the descriptor isn't really at issue imo, this is about hurt feelings and an enduring grudge against any media outlet that is deemed to have failed in 'both sidesing' any given issue enough to butter up the right.
Right. Trump having a history of xenophobia (and misogynist, racism, etc) is not really arguable? Or is that what's being argued here?
Day after the travel ban
Biden insulted Trump and some posters still haven't washed the sand out of their drawers.
The putative accuracy of the descriptor isn't really at issue imo, this is about hurt feelings and an enduring grudge against any media outlet that is deemed to have failed in 'both sidesing' any given issue enough to butter up the right.
Anyone here who believes Biden wasn't referring to the travel ban is mentally retarded
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 06:05 PM
WTF does "not officially called the Chinese virus" even mean?
Not calling it chinese virus is WHO policy and had been this whole time it didnt stop shit .
ElNono
05-03-2021, 06:07 PM
Biden insulted Trump and some posters still haven't washed the sand out of their drawers.
The putative accuracy of the descriptor isn't really at issue imo, this is about hurt feelings and an enduring grudge against any media outlet that is deemed to have failed in 'both sidesing' any given issue enough to butter up the right.
I think you could even argue those are probably the only shared-values he has with the southern/redneck population. Which sadly says more about a pervasive minority in America than him.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 06:08 PM
Day after the travel ban
Anyone here who believes Biden wasn't referring to the travel ban is mentally retardedI didn't say so. Nor did i imply it.
Who did?
https://kentuckypress.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/scarecrow-nodding.gif
Adam Lambert
05-03-2021, 06:08 PM
:lol Do you think racist Trumptards who harass Asians give a fuck what the WHO calls it?
ElNono
05-03-2021, 06:10 PM
Day after the travel ban
I posted the tweets, IIRC. My understanding is he was singling out the "Chinese virus" rhetoric coming from Trump's own tweet announcing the travel ban, not the travel ban itself.
Which is what sparked THAT conversation.
Isitjustme?
05-03-2021, 06:11 PM
What's up with your boy?
https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1388192826995978240?s=19
:lol
:lol that can't be real? its from now??
ElNono
05-03-2021, 06:12 PM
I do think it's a different situation to when he installed a generally muslim travel ban... you know, before the virus...
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 06:14 PM
Context matters. If you're in the middle of blaming/demonizing the Chinese over everything that's wrong and decadent with America, then "Chinese Virus" is throwing fuel to the fire. Kung Flu is flat out trolling.
Ebola is named after a river in Africa where the virus was first detected. Nobody calls it the Zaire virus, the African virus or the N****r virus, because it does have different connotations, even though at least the first two are probably accurate.
Unfortunately, we've painfully learned this country is full of gullible people that will do very stupid things if mislead by conmen...
In the context of the virus and where it's from it's a chinese virus. If you're cool with naming diseases after where they are discovered then is wuhan virus okay? I'd be fine with that as well. However there's this argument that not naming a disease after where it's from spares the innocent masses from backlash, I'd argue that that isn't the case because the WHO went out of their way to not name it any form of "chinese virus", and it did nothing to prevent the spread of unfounded anti-asian attitudes from a certain group of people.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 06:17 PM
I do think it's a different situation to when he installed a generally muslim travel ban... you know, before the virus...absolutely, which is why the so-called China travel ban (it wasn't, in the strict sense -- ~400,000 people traveled to the US from China after it was announced) didn't bother me, then or now.
The COVID pandemic was a good reason to close the border, it's a pity we didn't do it so when we needed to.
ElNono
05-03-2021, 06:20 PM
In the context of the virus and where it's from it's a chinese virus. If you're cool with naming diseases after where they are discovered then is wuhan virus okay? I'd be fine with that as well. However there's this argument that not naming a disease after where it's from spares the innocent masses from backlash, I'd argue that that isn't the case because the WHO went out of their way to not name it any form of "chinese virus", and it did nothing to prevent the spread of unfounded anti-asian attitudes from a certain group of people.
I have no beef in pointing out where it came from, but you also have to acknowledge that's easy to weaponize as a political tool and a driver for xenophobia, etc.
The WHO has moved away from naming viruses like that for a long time because of that, and it largely predates COVID-19. You can go back to HIV, H1N1, etc... you can always go and look where they first found it, but the naming has changed because actually finding it first in some place is also not 100% guarantee it came from there.
Origin of viruses was much more clear back when international travel wasn't as common or quick, but not so today.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 06:27 PM
I have no beef in pointing out where it came from, but you also have to acknowledge that's easy to weaponize as a political tool and a driver for xenophobia, etc.
The WHO has moved away from naming viruses like that for a long time because of that, and it largely predates COVID-19. You can go back to HIV, H1N1, etc... you can always go and look where they first found it, but the naming has changed because actually finding it first in some place is also not 100% guarantee it came from there.
Origin of viruses was much more clear back when international travel wasn't as common or quick, but not so today.
Never said it wasn't weaponized, I'm saying that not calling it that did nothing and asians were targeted anyway. So it's a process that clearly doesn't work.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 06:31 PM
I have no beef in pointing out where it came from, but you also have to acknowledge that's easy to weaponize as a political tool and a driver for xenophobia, etc.
The WHO has moved away from naming viruses like that for a long time because of that, and it largely predates COVID-19. You can go back to HIV, H1N1, etc... you can always go and look where they first found it, but the naming has changed because actually finding it first in some place is also not 100% guarantee it came from there.
Origin of viruses was much more clear back when international travel wasn't as common or quick, but not so today.Yep
We know where the big initial outbreak was, but we don't yet know to a scientific certainty where COVID-19 "came from."
Why is it so important to jump to conclusions on this?
Motivated reasoning? Desire to shift blame for the catastrophically weak US response? To put a "Chinese face" on COVID-19?
It doesn't seem to be epidemiological accuracy that's the real issue here, tbh.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 06:34 PM
What would change if China were determined to be the origin of COVID 19?
Exactly nothing.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 06:44 PM
Yep
We know where the big initial outbreak was, but we don't yet know to a scientific certainty where COVID-19 "came from."
Why is it so important to jump to conclusions on this?
Motivated reasoning? Desire to shift blame for the catastrophically weak US response? To put a "Chinese face" on COVID-19?
It doesn't seem to be epidemiological accuracy that's the real issue here, tbh.
So it was somewhere else that a bat fucked a palanquin. Definitely happens everywhere in the world, i myself had to stop a couple this afternoon.
You ignoring where it's from is once again exactly what China wants you to do
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 06:49 PM
So it was somewhere else that a bat fucked a palanquin. Definitely happens everywhere in the world, i myself had to stop a couple this afternoon.
You ignoring where it's from is once again exactly what China wants you to doI'm not ignoring it, I even think it's likely.
Seems fair to point out the epidemiology is lagging "common sense."
(shrugs)
CosmicCowboy
05-03-2021, 06:55 PM
:lol Do you think racist Trumptards who harass Asians give a fuck what the WHO calls it?
Typical dumb fuckery from this guy. Do your research. The majority of Asian attacks are black on Asian. Do you think those black thugs really care what Trump said about covid?
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 06:57 PM
Typical dumb fuckery from this guy. Do your research. The majority of Asian attacks are black on Asian. Do you think those black thugs really care what Trump said about covid?show us yours, please
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 06:58 PM
knock on: stipulated as true, what follows?
CosmicCowboy
05-03-2021, 06:59 PM
show us yours, please
Google Asian attack demographics.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 07:01 PM
Google Asian attack demographics.demands others show their work, declines to show his
ElNono
05-03-2021, 07:01 PM
So it was somewhere else that a bat fucked a palanquin. Definitely happens everywhere in the world, i myself had to stop a couple this afternoon.
You ignoring where it's from is once again exactly what China wants you to do
It could've easily come from a mutation in a bat in North Korea, a country we don't have a lot of visibility on, and neighbors China.
I'm not saying it did or that it has better odds than have started in China itself, but the point is if we pretend for a second that'd be the case, it wouldn't be odd or strange, and calling it the Chinese virus wouldn't be accurate either.
Not that it really matters where it came from. You can point fingers at the Chinese government for a poor initial response, that really isn't associated to where the virus started.
And it's more than just the Chinese in Asia that love to have these weird food delicacies that can turn extremely dangerous.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 07:03 PM
But hey, if CC prefers hand waving to making his own point, that's cool with me.
I will continue to point it out, though.
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 07:04 PM
Never said it wasn't weaponized, I'm saying that not calling it that did nothing and asians were targeted anyway. So it's a process that clearly doesn't work.But Trump's policy was to call it that for a year.
CosmicCowboy
05-03-2021, 07:10 PM
But hey, if CC prefers hand waving to making his own point, that's cool with me.
I will continue to point it out, though.
I'm sitting on my dock at the lake using my phone. Im not gonna copy paste simple research you are too lazy to do. New York city keeps statistics on Asian crime. Last year, 50% of attacks on asians were by blacks, 10% were by whites although they are a significantly higher percentage of the overall population than blacks.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 07:10 PM
Day after the travel ban
Anyone here who believes Biden wasn't referring to the travel ban is mentally retarded
I didn't say so. Nor did i imply it.
Who did?
https://kentuckypress.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/scarecrow-nodding.gifstrawman it is, then
Blake
05-03-2021, 07:16 PM
I'm sitting on my dock at the lake using my phone. Im not gonna copy paste simple research you are too lazy to do. New York city keeps statistics on Asian crime. Last year, 50% of attacks on asians were by blacks, 10% were by whites although they are a significantly higher percentage of the overall population than blacks.
The forum thanks you for posting those stats off the top of your head while sitting on the dock at the lake.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 07:27 PM
I'm sitting on my dock at the lake using my phone. Im not gonna copy paste simple research you are too lazy to do. New York city keeps statistics on Asian crime. Last year, 50% of attacks on asians were by blacks, 10% were by whites although they are a significantly higher percentage of the overall population than blacks.Thanks. Hard to believe you didn't have time to cut and paste a link. :lol
You're right btw, I am too lazy to make your own point for you.
DarrinS
05-03-2021, 07:32 PM
Fauci/Wuhan gain-of-function virus
CosmicCowboy
05-03-2021, 07:32 PM
The forum thanks you for posting those stats off the top of your head while sitting on the dock at the lake.
Oh, so only you can post personal shit here? Like sancho cucking you? BTW, I have moved up to the back porch if you are still keeping track.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 07:33 PM
But Trump's policy was to call it that for a year.
Anti asian sentiment was not an american only problem
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 07:37 PM
Anti asian sentiment was not an american only problem
Why keep his failed policy?
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 07:45 PM
It could've easily come from a mutation in a bat in North Korea, a country we don't have a lot of visibility on, and neighbors China.
I'm not saying it did or that it has better odds than have started in China itself, but the point is if we pretend for a second that'd be the case, it wouldn't be odd or strange, and calling it the Chinese virus wouldn't be accurate either.
Not that it really matters where it came from. You can point fingers at the Chinese government for a poor initial response, that really isn't associated to where the virus started.
And it's more than just the Chinese in Asia that love to have these weird food delicacies that can turn extremely dangerous.
It's not the weird delicacies it's the handling and preparation.
Anti asian violence may have come from other places but you can't prove it came from the phrase "china virus" I'm not saying that it did or that it had better odds of being than have being started by Trump himself, but the point is if we pretend for one second that'd be the case, it wouldn't be odd or strange and blaming the phrase "china virus" wouldn't be accurate either
See how that works
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 07:47 PM
Oh, so only you can post personal shit here? Like sancho cucking you? BTW, I have moved up to the back porch if you are still keeping track.emphasizing balck on Asian violence was "personal shit?":lol
CosmicCowboy
05-03-2021, 07:49 PM
emphasizing balck on Asian violence was "personal shit?":lol
:lmao
Whatever makes you feel good about yourself.
I have no beef in pointing out where it came from, but you also have to acknowledge that's easy to weaponize as a political tool and a driver for xenophobia, etc.
The WHO has moved away from naming viruses like that for a long time because of that, and it largely predates COVID-19. You can go back to HIV, H1N1, etc... you can always go and look where they first found it, but the naming has changed because actually finding it first in some place is also not 100% guarantee it came from there.
Origin of viruses was much more clear back when international travel wasn't as common or quick, but not so today.
Historically outbreaks have been named after the places where they originated.
Suddenly it's taboo.
If it came from Texas it would be called the Texas virus. No one here would give a shit because you cannot look at someone and know they come from Texas (for the most part). If China wasn't so homogenous in their racial makeup, saying "Wuhan" wouldn't automatically equate to Han Chinese features.
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 07:53 PM
:lmao "suddenly"
uppity minorities not wanting to get killed because whitey wants to vent about a disease
Typical dumb fuckery from this guy. Do your research. The majority of Asian attacks are black on Asian. Do you think those black thugs really care what Trump said about covid?
Don't shit on his narrative.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 08:03 PM
Historically outbreaks have been named after the places where they originated.
Suddenly it's taboo.Historically some of those calls have been wrong* with harm resulting to random people due to scapegoating.If the geographical designation leads to foreseeable harm, why not use a different designation?
(the 1st known outbreak of Spanish Flu was in Kansas.)
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 08:07 PM
Why keep his failed policy?
Why keep the WHO's failed policy?
DarrinS
05-03-2021, 08:12 PM
Probably down the memory hole, but this was called the Wuhan coronavirus early on, even appearing on CNN chyrons. The Wuhan part got dropped over time.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 08:13 PM
Probably down the memory hole, but this was called the Wuhan coronavirus early on, even appearing on CNN chyrons. The Wuhan part got dropped over time.why do you suppose that was?
DarrinS
05-03-2021, 08:16 PM
why do you suppose that was?
You tell me. The entire world knows where this originated.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 08:19 PM
You tell me. The entire world knows where this originated.Premature.
The site of origination hasn't yet been scientifically determined. We do know where the first recorded outbreak was. The origin of COVID 19 may very well turn out to be Wuhan or someplace close by, but saying so now is more or less speculation.
DarrinS
05-03-2021, 08:25 PM
Premature.
The site of origination hasn't yet been scientifically determined. We do know where the first recorded outbreak was. The origin of COVID 19 may very well turn out to be Wuhan or someplace close by, but saying so now is more or less speculation.
Spain poo poo. :lmao
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 08:29 PM
emoji white flag
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 09:46 PM
Why keep the WHO's failed policy?We are not the WHO and neither policy made China do anything, that's why.
Why keep your failed policy?
ElNono
05-03-2021, 10:01 PM
Historically outbreaks have been named after the places where they originated.
Suddenly it's taboo.
If it came from Texas it would be called the Texas virus. No one here would give a shit because you cannot look at someone and know they come from Texas (for the most part). If China wasn't so homogenous in their racial makeup, saying "Wuhan" wouldn't automatically equate to Han Chinese features.
Have they? Somebody already pointed out the Spanish flu didn't start in Spain (or at least there's no consensus where it originated).
HIV, H1N1, Polio, the Black Death, Zika, Rabies... where they started and why it's not in the name? Historically, plagues were much more common to be referred to the affected area because people didn't really know what the disease was to being with, and long distance travel was generally scarce.
ElNono
05-03-2021, 10:08 PM
It's not the weird delicacies it's the handling and preparation.
Anti asian violence may have come from other places but you can't prove it came from the phrase "china virus" I'm not saying that it did or that it had better odds of being than have being started by Trump himself, but the point is if we pretend for one second that'd be the case, it wouldn't be odd or strange and blaming the phrase "china virus" wouldn't be accurate either
See how that works
I actually don't disagree. However, I do think, again, that context matters. If the virus was coming from Brazil (like Zika was), and we weren't actively trying to sell Brazil politically as our enemy, then probably we wouldn't see a violent reaction to Brazilians (and we didn't in the case of Zika).
IMVHO, the reference to "China Virus" and "Kung Flu" wasn't academic or naive, it was used a political tool to sow xenophobia and advance what ultimately was an administration policy.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 10:21 PM
We are not the WHO and neither policy made China do anything, that's why.
Why keep your failed policy?
Don't know what you're talking about WHO's policy is to not name virus's after geographical locations to ensure that there is no bias against the people that lived there, it's a policy that has clearly failed as there is severe global anti-asian sentiment regardless of name.
Historically some of those calls have been wrong* with harm resulting to random people due to scapegoating.If the geographical designation leads to foreseeable harm, why not use a different designation?
(the 1st known outbreak of Spanish Flu was in Kansas.)
You haven't illustrated why it's wrong to use the origination of the virus in the descriptor. There's likely been more attacks because of East coast vs West coast than against Asians over the "Wuhan Virus". In fact, how do you know that the attacks aren't coming from jealousy stemming from Asians taking the front seat in the racial sensitivity circus? I've seen plenty footage of attacks. Seems to be a lot of black guys attacking Asians. Maybe you can explain this, or casually dismiss it.
COVID-19 is a virus that originated in Wuhan China. It's therefore appropriate to call it the Wuhan Virus, just as we can say "Mexican drug cartels"
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 10:29 PM
Don't know what you're talking about WHO's policy is to not name virus's after geographical locations to ensure that there is no bias against the people that lived there, it's a policy that has clearly failed as there is severe global anti-asian sentiment regardless of name.Because of the policy of people like Trump.
It's failed.
Why use it?
I actually don't disagree. However, I do think, again, that context matters. If the virus was coming from Brazil (like Zika was), and we weren't actively trying to sell Brazil politically as our enemy, then probably we wouldn't see a violent reaction to Brazilians (and we didn't in the case of Zika).
IMVHO, the reference to "China Virus" and "Kung Flu" wasn't academic or naive, it was used a political tool to sow xenophobia and advance what ultimately was an administration policy.
This is a subjective opinion. In a thread here we are joking about Jews and le happy merchant. Kung Flu was a clever meme. No real politician would ever use it publicly, but Trump wasn't a real politician.
Blake
05-03-2021, 10:36 PM
Oh, so only you can post personal shit here? Like sancho cucking you? BTW, I have moved up to the back porch if you are still keeping track.
Like every other time, nobody asked for your personal "I'm at much lake mansion" shit. And I like how everyone else is lazy for not backing up your ass tossed stats.
Plenty to lol at.
Oh don't forget to spend prescious lake time to think up and tell me more about my personal life.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 10:39 PM
You haven't illustrated why it's wrong to use the origination of the virus in the descriptor. There's likely been more attacks because of East coast vs West coast than against Asians over the "Wuhan Virus". In fact, how do you know that the attacks aren't coming from jealousy stemming from Asians taking the front seat in the racial sensitivity circus? I've seen plenty footage of attacks. Seems to be a lot of black guys attacking Asians. Maybe you can explain this, or casually dismiss it.I didn't claim to have demonstrated anything. If you think Trump demagoguing the Chinese in connection with COVID was merely neutral description I'd say you're the one who's casually dismissing plausibilities.
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 10:50 PM
Because of the policy of people like Trump.
It's failed.
Why use it?
Which policy Trump's or the WHO's I agree that the WHO's policy failed if that's what you're saying it's a failed policy (the WHO's) so why use it?
ElNono
05-03-2021, 10:51 PM
This is a subjective opinion. In a thread here we are joking about Jews and le happy merchant. Kung Flu was a clever meme. No real politician would ever use it publicly, but Trump wasn't a real politician.
Never claimed otherwise (see the included IMVHO). I also pointed out earlier Kung Flu was flat out trolling.
I do dispute the notion that Trump wasn't a real politician though. Perhaps he wasn't a traditional politician, but there was, again, a clear overt political motive behind that trolling (IMO again).
I didn't claim to have demonstrated anything. If you think Trump demagoguing the Chinese in connection with COVID was merely neutral description I'd say you're the one who's casually dismissing plausibilities.
So you're just asserting and what you're saying means nothing. Got it.
Never claimed otherwise (see the included IMVHO). I also pointed out earlier Kung Flu was flat out trolling.
I do dispute the notion that Trump wasn't a real politician though. Perhaps he wasn't a traditional politician, but there was, again, a clear overt political motive behind that trolling (IMO again).
Trump had no political or military experience before he ran for POTUS. He wasn't politically correct. He didn't try (as much as the rest) to build relationships in DC. If anything he destroyed relationships and you can see the sycophant GOPers selling their souls in hopes of some political capital by supporting/backing Trump even now. He wouldn't do that for them. He'd shit on them in an instant. He's not a real politician, he's a self absorbed megalomaniac with a god complex and a lifetime of evidence to suggest damn near anyone can be bought.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 11:08 PM
So you're just asserting and what you're saying means nothing. Got it.If you're unpersuaded, that doesn't make what I was saying meaningless, it just means we disgree.
If you're unpersuaded, that doesn't make what I was saying meaningless, it just means we disgree.
Unsupported accusations are not worth considering.
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 11:15 PM
Unsupported accusations are not worth considering.You're sore about me calling Trump a demagogue, Mr. Magoo. :lol
Winehole23
05-03-2021, 11:17 PM
#StillWithHim
ElNono
05-03-2021, 11:26 PM
Trump had no political or military experience before he ran for POTUS. He wasn't politically correct. He didn't try (as much as the rest) to build relationships in DC. If anything he destroyed relationships and you can see the sycophant GOPers selling their souls in hopes of some political capital by supporting/backing Trump even now. He wouldn't do that for them. He'd shit on them in an instant. He's not a real politician, he's a self absorbed megalomaniac with a god complex and a lifetime of evidence to suggest damn near anyone can be bought.
That's not entirely true. He was a presidential candidate in 2000 as well (don't think a lot of people know this). He just didn't gain traction until the time was right for somebody like him, who looked like he wanted to kick the board and reshuffle, was right.
But, he's been a conman all his life. He lied more than the worst, most lying politician I can remember. Midway through his candidacy he had a whole political structure behind him. Campaign manager, et all.
He certainly wasn't a traditional politician, he was always over the top, and got away with it.
ChumpDumper
05-03-2021, 11:44 PM
Which policy Trump's or the WHO's I agree that the WHO's policy failed if that's what you're saying it's a failed policy (the WHO's) so why use it?They both failed RE: China.
Your policy also gets AAPI people killed.
Mine doesn't.
Why use yours?
Trainwreck2100
05-03-2021, 11:55 PM
They both failed RE: China.
Your policy also gets AAPI people killed.
Mine doesn't.
Why use yours?
I'm not talking about china, The WHOs policy is to not name geographically to stop prejudice is what's being used now and that policy has done nothing to stop anti asian rhethoric it's a failed policy
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 12:05 AM
I'm not talking about chinaThe ONLY reason you want to use that term is to change China.
Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 12:35 AM
The ONLY reason you want to use that term is to change China.
I assume that you meant the WHO failed with how the responded to China in their initial response to the virus is that not what you meant? Because you seem to agree with how they allowed Asians to be maginalized with a failed naming practice since you seem to think their decision to not name if geographically was a success.
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 12:37 AM
I assume that you meant the WHO failed with how the responded to China in their initial response to the virus is that not what you meant? Because you seem to agree with how they allowed Asians to be maginalized with a failed naming practice since you seem to think their decision to not name if geographically was a success.Don't assume what I meant.
I'm right here.
Geographic naming is useless for your purposes and causes problems for innocent people in this case.
List your compelling reasons to keep using your failed policy.
Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 01:01 AM
Don't assume what I meant.
I'm right here.
Geographic naming is useless for your purposes and causes problems for innocent people in this case.
List your compelling reasons to keep using your failed policy.
The WHO decides not to name geographically to prevent race based attacks, this entire year there have been race based attacks, the only one supporting a failed policy is you.
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 01:03 AM
The WHOWhy do you keep talking about them?
This is your failed policy we're talking about.
Your policy can only encourage attacks and does nothing to change China.
Why keep using it?
Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 01:33 AM
Why do you keep talking about them?
This is your failed policy we're talking about.
Your policy can only encourage attacks and does nothing to change China.
Why keep using it?
Because they're the reason it's not called Chinese Virus, wuhan virus etc. my mistake i thought you knew that. I will take that into account next time. And because it's their policy that said how to name it it is failed policy because it did not protect asians. And unlike you I care about all asians everywhere where as you only care about AAPI. Notice I've never said AAPI just asians because globally this is an issue for all asians not just the American ones.
Winehole23
05-04-2021, 02:12 AM
Don't shit on his narrative.
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ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 02:44 AM
Because they're the reason it's not called Chinese Virus, wuhan virus etc. my mistake i thought you knew that. I will take that into account next time. And because it's their policy that said how to name it it is failed policy because it did not protect asians. And unlike you I care about all asians everywhere where as you only care about AAPI. Notice I've never said AAPI just asians because globally this is an issue for all asians not just the American ones.I'm talking about Americans, not your WHO straw man.
I'm specifically talking about you because it's the policy you want to implement after it failed miserably and helped get Americans killed.
Give your reasons why you want to fail more and kill more Americans with your policy.
Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 12:20 PM
I'm talking about Americans, not your WHO straw man.
I'm specifically talking about you because it's the policy you want to implement after it failed miserably and helped get Americans killed.
Give your reasons why you want to fail more and kill more Americans with your policy.
and I'm talking about the people who name the virus, my reasons for the naming have already been given. You call it a straw man but this is about what the virus is named and it was named by that organization using a direct policy, did you not know that? Did you think Americans came up with the name of the virus? I believe that's the case if you think the WHO is a straw man when this is a discussion about why it's called one thing and not the other and you think the organization that named it is a straw man. Once again I'm not you though I'm not focusing on Americans but a system that failed all asians everywhere. nowhere have i said americans I've just said asians, but if it helps I'll be more specific, because I assume you used contex,t but you don't so when I say asians I mean people of asian descent around the world.
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 12:25 PM
and I'm talking about the people who name the virus, my reasons for the naming have already been given.List your reasons you want it to be policy so I don't have to hunt around for them.
Make sure they're reasons for which the policy hasn't already failed.
Don't waste any more time with that.
Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 12:31 PM
List your reasons you want it to be policy so I don't have to hunt around for them.
You replied to me, so no. If you're going to start shit be a man and do your due diligence
Make sure they're reasons for which the policy hasn't already failed.
This sentence doesn't make any sense, because I've acknowledged multiple times about how the WHO's policy failed
spurraider21
05-04-2021, 12:35 PM
imagine arguing the president of the US was not a real politician
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 12:44 PM
You replied to me, so no. If you're going to start shit be a man and do your due diligence:lol derp
It's clear you don't even want to support your own position.:tu
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 12:49 PM
imagine arguing the president of the US was not a real politician
:lol the backflips people do for this guy
Chucho
05-04-2021, 12:50 PM
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/27/donald-trump/fact-checking-whether-biden-called-trump-xenophobi/
Biden used the phrase “xenophobic” in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China and in which Trump described the coronavirus as the “Chinese virus.” Biden did not spell out which part of Trump’s tweet was xenophobic.
Considering how many people took Trump's "inject me with bleach" line further out of context, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
No difference.
hater
05-04-2021, 12:51 PM
Biden used the phrase “xenophobic” in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China and in which Trump described the coronavirus as the “Chinese virus.” Biden did not spell out which part of Trump’s tweet was xenophobic.
Considering how many people took Trump's "inject me with bleach" line further out of context, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
No difference.
Dump said we should drink household cleaning solutions.
Theres no defending that :lmao
I agree Joe Dirt is a hypocryte
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 12:56 PM
Biden used the phrase “xenophobic” in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China and in which Trump described the coronavirus as the “Chinese virus.” Biden did not spell out which part of Trump’s tweet was xenophobic.
Considering how many people took Trump's "inject me with bleach" line further out of context, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
No difference.
What was the mitigating context for Trump?
Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 12:58 PM
:lol derp
It's clear you don't even want to support your own position.:tu
Or, you know, my position is laid out and having to do it again because someone is lazy serves nothing.
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 12:59 PM
Or, you know, my position is laid out and having to do it again because someone is lazy serves nothing.You want to call it the China virus to make you feel better about it.
Anything else?
Chucho
05-04-2021, 01:05 PM
What was the mitigating context for Trump?
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
If that equals "drink/inject bleach, mentally-deficient cult followers!!" then the critique of Biden's comment in question is fair.
hater
05-04-2021, 01:21 PM
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
If that equals "drink/inject bleach, mentally-deficient cult followers!!" then the critique of Biden's comment in question is fair.
It pretty much means to drink bleach. And some idiot trumptards actually did. :lol
They died
ElNono
05-04-2021, 01:25 PM
Biden used the phrase “xenophobic” in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China and in which Trump described the coronavirus as the “Chinese virus.” Biden did not spell out which part of Trump’s tweet was xenophobic.
Considering how many people took Trump's "inject me with bleach" line further out of context, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
No difference.
Trump actually made the claim Biden called his travel ban xenophobic, and that is, at the very least, very debatable.
boutons_deux
05-04-2021, 01:29 PM
Trump actually made the claim Biden called his travel ban xenophobic, and that is, at the very least, very debatable.
not debatable.
India was banned due to their pandemic explosion, not because they are Indians, Hindus, Muslim, Christians, non-"white", non-American, etc.
Adam Lambert
05-04-2021, 01:30 PM
Trump: "These Chinese ching chongs gave us their Chinese Virus which is making slant-eyed gooks out of the great white race, so I'm shutting off travel from China faster than you can say 'Solly Cholly, love you long time soy sauce."
Biden: "That's xenophobic"
Conservatives: "Joe Biden calls Chinese travel ban xenophobic"
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 01:35 PM
It wasn't any funnier the second time, Dumbert
Winehole23
05-04-2021, 01:36 PM
"there's not any support for the opinion that the guy who demagogued COVID-19 and the 2020 election is a demagogue."
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 01:42 PM
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
If that equals "drink/inject bleach, mentally-deficient cult followers!!" then the critique of Biden's comment in question is fair. Inject disinfectant.
Into your lungs.
Like a cleaning.
OK, that doesn't sound fucking nuts.
Adam Lambert
05-04-2021, 01:48 PM
It wasn't any funnier the second time, Dumbert
Funny isn't the point.
Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 02:42 PM
You want to call it the China virus to make you feel better about it.
Anything else?
Id be open to any geographic region as ive said here. China virus is not necessarily the only thing. I dont recall saying it would make me feel better
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 03:29 PM
Id be open to any geographic region as ive said here. China virus is not necessarily the only thing. I dont recall saying it would make me feel betterI see no other reason and you are offering none.
LkrFan
05-04-2021, 03:47 PM
:lol that can't be real? its from now??
It's realer than Real Deal Holyfield :lol
Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 06:58 PM
I see no other reason and you are offering none.
Well im telling you its not to make me feel better. If you dont want me making assumptions about you ( your words in this thread) id expect you to extend the same to me
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 07:05 PM
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
If that equals "drink/inject bleach, mentally-deficient cult followers!!" then the critique of Biden's comment in question is fair.
It's almost as if it's a thing
https://halodine.com
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 07:13 PM
Well im telling you its not to make me feel better. If you dont want me making assumptions about you ( your words in this thread) id expect you to extend the same to me
Then why do you want your failed policy?
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 07:14 PM
It's almost as if it's a thing
https://halodine.com
#StillWithHim
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 07:16 PM
#StillWithHim
#HeBrokeMe. :cry
:lmao
Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 07:37 PM
Then why do you want your failed policy?
So you admit that you made an assumption about me after fucking asking me not to make assumptions about you. Thats such hypocrisy. And once again to answer your question its already been posted
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 07:38 PM
So you admit that you made an assumption about me after fucking asking me not to make assumptions about you. Thats such hypocrisy. And once again to answer your question its already been posted:lol you refuse to answer, so I'm not going to care if you won't.:tu
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 07:39 PM
#HeBrokeMe. :cry
:lmao:lmao you're the dumbass who voted for him in 2020
And you're STILL white knighting for him.
Why, Darrin?
You're sore about me calling Trump a demagogue, Mr. Magoo. :lol
More unsupported spirit induced mumbling.
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 08:27 PM
:lmao you're the dumbass who voted for him in 2020
And you're STILL white knighting for him.
Why, Darrin?
#LongHaulerTDS
:lmao
baseline bum
05-04-2021, 08:29 PM
#LongHaulerTDS
:lmao
Wow, never expected to see you admit it.
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 08:41 PM
#LongHaulerTDS
:lmaoWhy did you vote for him in 2020, Darrin?
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 08:57 PM
Why did you vote for him in 2020, Darrin?
Joe has dementia
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 08:59 PM
Joe has dementiaWhy did you vote FOR Trump?
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 09:01 PM
Ron Klain is the current president
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 09:01 PM
Ron Klain is the current president
Who told you to believe this, Darrin?
spurraider21
05-04-2021, 09:05 PM
Joe has dementia
he's an old man with a stutter
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 09:06 PM
he's an old man with a stutter
You know the thing...
spurraider21
05-04-2021, 09:12 PM
You know the thing...
haven't seen anything that would affect his daily functioning or everyday activities. blanking on a phrase like that typically isn't what medical professionals are looking for when diagnosing dementia.
dementia is different than the typical cognitive decline associated with aging. no doubt we've seen evidence of the latter with old joe
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 09:15 PM
haven't seen anything that would affect his daily functioning or everyday activities. blanking on a phrase like that typically isn't what medical professionals are looking for when diagnosing dementia.
dementia is different than the typical cognitive decline associated with aging. no doubt we've seen evidence of the latter with old joe
Darrin has ignored his Trump's old man sizzle reels as well.
pgardn
05-04-2021, 09:19 PM
You know the thing...
Trump was relentlessly awful with his speech. He just ran on about nothing in particular except about old things that were still stuck in his teeth. Ive seen old people just run on about the same damn thing over and over instead of just stopping and forgetting. They are both annoying but characteristic of grumpas.
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 09:23 PM
Trump was relentlessly awful with his speech. He just ran on about nothing in particular except about old things that were still stuck in his teeth. Ive seen old people just run on about the same damn thing over and over instead of just stopping and forgetting. They are both annoying but characteristic of grumpas.
He was an unusual president.
More unusual to me is the reaction to him, both in the people that love him and hate him.
He's gone now and pretty much perma-banned by all social media.
Can we move on now?
pgardn
05-04-2021, 09:27 PM
He was an unusual president.
More unusual to me is the reaction to him, both in the people that love him and hate him.
He's gone now and pretty much perma-banned by all social media.
Can we move on now?
No.
Not if we are referring to old presidents in office making bad speeches.
No "we" cant.
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 09:29 PM
He was an unusual president.
More unusual to me is the reaction to him, both in the people that love him and hate him.
He's gone now and pretty much perma-banned by all social media.
Can we move on now?You're really eager to defend him at every opportunity, though.
LBmNTLxclXE
pgardn
05-04-2021, 09:31 PM
Unusual...
Yeah thats about it, just unusual in the way he lied constantly, the way attempted and succeeded in dividing the country, unusual in that he bucked people with years of experience for yes creatures so he could get his way.
Unusual in that he brought out the absolute worst behavior in people with belief systems that already existed and then laughed about it.
Yeah, unusual. Thats descriptive.
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 09:37 PM
No.
Not if we are referring to old presidents in office making bad speeches.
No "we" cant.
Unusual...
Yeah thats about it, just unusual in the way he lied constantly, the way attempted and succeeded in dividing the country, unusual in that he bucked people with years of experience for yes creatures so he could get his way.
Unusual in that he brought out the absolute worst behavior in people with belief systems that already existed and then laughed about it.
Yeah, unusual. Thats descriptive.
#LongHaulerTDS
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 09:39 PM
:lol as soon as anyone asks Darrin why he supported and continues to defend his Trump, he insists we move on.
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 09:51 PM
I'm as weirded out by super fans as I am by blueanon TDS sufferers.
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 09:53 PM
I'm especially weirded out by people who support him without knowing or saying why.
pgardn
05-04-2021, 10:02 PM
#LongHaulerTDS
by far the worst president in modern history, call it what ever you wish.
And hopefully it is for the long haul for our voters, if we have another clown like this you will have to go clownface as well.
pgardn
05-04-2021, 10:05 PM
I'm as weirded out by super fans as I am by blueanon TDS sufferers.
No you go full derp.
Wonderful.
blue anon... wtf...? did the blue team claim Biden as a religious savior and claim Trump eats babies?
So saying Trump is a horrible president is the same thing, sure thing derp. Biden claimed Trump ran a child abduction ring for his friends that then dined on children?
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 10:05 PM
Ron Klain is the current president
Who told you to believe this, Darrin?
1389588773361516547
Can we move on now?
:lmao
DarrinS
05-04-2021, 10:05 PM
by far the worst president in modern history, call it what ever you wish.
And hopefully it is for the long haul for our voters, if we have another clown like this you will have to go clownface as well.
He's gone. Your nightmare is over. Take some Midol.
pgardn
05-04-2021, 10:11 PM
He's gone. Your nightmare is over. Take some Midol.
No remember hes coming back derp.
Believe. Because I believe you would vote for a complete charlatan like him again, especially in how you defend him.
Cant you point out the legit hypocrisy in the Biden administration instead of going derp and equating voting for him as a vote for capturing and eating children? Really... blueanon its that nutty? Biden was chosen by God to stop Trump from eating children, thats what the blue team hangs on to?
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 10:14 PM
He's gone. Your nightmare is over. Take some Midol.
Your party requires its officials to declare your Trump is still the true and legitimate president.
Why?
Blake
05-04-2021, 10:24 PM
Lol when Darrin starts drunk muttering in a thread
spurraider21
05-04-2021, 10:46 PM
I'm as weirded out by super fans as I am by blueanon TDS sufferers.
can we call your incessant claims of dementia BDS?
Adam Lambert
05-04-2021, 11:24 PM
He was an unusual president.
More unusual to me is the reaction to him, both in the people that love him and hate him.
He's gone now and pretty much perma-banned by all social media.
Can we move on now?
:lmao
"Unusual"
Face it, he was an embarrassment and that's why you want everyone to stop talking about him. Because you voted for him, he represents your ideology, and you want to pretend it didn't happen.
Th'Pusher
05-04-2021, 11:41 PM
:lmao
"Unusual"
Face it, he was an embarrassment and that's why you want everyone to stop talking about him. Because you voted for him, he represents your ideology, and you want to pretend it didn't happen.
I think this analysis is a bit simple tbh. DarrinS clearly voted for Donald. Chucho, CC and DMC likely did too even though they don’t have the balls to admit it in an anonymous online forum. At the same time, these are older men, run of the mill conservatives. They knew Donald was “wrong” on a lot of shit, but the R is important, and he lead the party...still does to their dismay. They’re likely rooting for Liz Cheney. Hoping she remains relevant and can bring back the GOP they grew up with. But they’re Delusional to the reality the party and the ideology they subscribe too is dying.
Winehole23
05-05-2021, 12:03 AM
More unsupported spirit induced mumbling.Sorry this is happening to you. Have you tried removing the stick from your ass?
Winehole23
05-05-2021, 12:04 AM
Come to think, that isn't such a good idea. All your wisdom might escape.
SnakeBoy
05-11-2021, 10:51 PM
But they’re Delusional to the reality the party and the ideology they subscribe too is dying.
That's what libs keep saying
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Combined--Control_of_the_U.S._House_of_Representatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.png
ChumpDumper
05-11-2021, 10:55 PM
That's what libs keep saying
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Combined--Control_of_the_U.S._House_of_Representatives_-_Control_of_the_U.S._Senate.pngIf your voter suppression schemes work you'll be back in control and can finish democracy off once and for all.:tu
Think of the jokes!
SnakeBoy
05-11-2021, 11:30 PM
If your voter suppression schemes work you'll be back in control and can finish democracy off once and for all.:tu
Think of the jokes!
Hopefully :tu
The jokes would just be a bonus. Permanent GOP rule is the goal.
ChumpDumper
05-11-2021, 11:31 PM
Hopefully :tu
The jokes would just be a bonus. Permanent GOP rule is the goal.I'm seriously glad you admit it.
SnakeBoy
05-11-2021, 11:34 PM
I'm glad you admit it.
All we need is voter id's and it will become too difficult for libs to figure out how to vote
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