Game Thread: Spurs at Celtics — FRI. 4/30/2021 — 6:30pm/C

[ace3g]

Spurs challenge call

[timtonymanu]

Didn't even realize Tatum had 56....that's impressive no matter what side you are on

He's the only reason the Celtics made this competitive.

[Leetonidas]

Sucks thats gonna be a jump ball because that should have been spurs ball on the turnover

[ace3g]

Call reversed, jump ball upcoming.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

You can't even read either if you think that was the point I was trying to make :lol

:smchode:

[LeBowen]

I'd rather have Williams on the lien than a jump ball.

[ace3g]

All that and allow a Brown corner 3...

[Leetonidas]

Fucking bullshit man and of course brown has been scubbing it up the entire game and hits the game winner

[LeBowen]

I'd rather have Williams on the lien than a jump ball.

As expected.
What a joke.

[bbarry]

when do the spurs not give up a wide open shot at the end of games...

[ace3g]

16.7 - OT


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2
3
4
OT
T


SA
39
38
26
25
9
137


BOS
16
32
42
38
11
139

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

i miss having timmy on those jump balls

[AusSpur]

Surely Demar contested midranger now

[YoungbuckMurray]

Kinda stupid that that is a jump ball considering it should have been a turnover. Nonetheless the game should have never gotten to this point. Spurs deserve the L

[PhantomDashCam]

All that and allow a Brown corner 3...

Small thing…but didn’t like the way we were aligned at that jump ball…

[LeBowen]

Wasting 3 hours of our lives on this shit.

[Kurgan]

Brad Stevens and the modern NBA taking a fat dump all over Pop and archaic ball tonight

[Robz4000]

Here comes a play for Mills or another DePression iso.

[spurs1990]

Go for the three and win. Walker or Mills

[Dex]

Wasting 3 hours of our lives on this shit.

You win some, you lose some.

No one is forcing you to watch.

[LeBowen]

Brad Stevens and the modern NBA taking a fat dump all over Pop and archaic ball tonight

Brad Stevens sucks.
It's just that Pop is even worse.

[RC_Drunkford]

I don't care what happens, they should've never went OT to begin with

[mo7888]

Can't inbound the ball and waste our last damn TO....

[Robz4000]

:lmao what the fuck was that?!

[ace3g]

Freakin lob attempt for last play...

[Leetonidas]

Oh my god what the fuck was that?? Dumbest fucking shit ever

[John B]

Rudy was in for that stupid pass??

[RC_Drunkford]

Walker is the one who should get the shot. So I expect a DeRozan iso or a Mills brick

[AusSpur]

WTF was that!?!

[bbarry]

same shit. different day.

[YoungbuckMurray]

WTF was that call Jesus

[PhantomDashCam]

Gay and a play for his passing ability…too good…too good

[LeBowen]

You win some, you lose some.

No one is forcing you to watch.

That's the exact mentality that got us to this point.
We don't have the winning mentality anymore.

We've become chokers and mental midgets. You don't have to be a great team to take the game seriously and prevent 32 point comeback.

[John B]

That was the most stupid thing I've seen. They are down only 2 and went for that?

[212094ever]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Kurgan]

:lol Pop's inbound play, NBA has moved way beyond the senile old fuck

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

that was the worst inbound pass i've ever seen

cut rudy now

[emanueldavidginobili]

Pop needs to hang it up my god, this shit is sad to see.

[RC_Drunkford]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[LeBowen]

Big shot Patty. :lobt2:

[John B]

If ever.. That should've been the play

[ace3g]

and of course that 3 by Patty will justify him 20-25 minutes from Pop....

OT
(https://www.espn.com/nba/playbyplay/_/gameId/401307753#gp-quarter-5)


TIME
TEAM
PLAY
SCORE


4.9
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Celtics Full timeout
140 - 141




5.0
https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/sa.png&h=100&w=100
Patty Mills makes 25-foot three point shot (DeMar DeRozan assists)
140 - 141




11.3
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Jayson Tatum makes free throw 2 of 2
137 - 141




11.3
https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/bos.png&h=100&w=100
Jayson Tatum makes free throw 1 of 2
137 - 140

[SPURt]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/95/32/cf/9532cf8894fc7143b315d64ca6ea8088.jpg

[mo7888]

Mills with BIG SHOT....when it doesn't mean anything

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

PATTY THRILLS

:lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

you're down 2 in OT with 14 seconds to go

:pop: "Let's try this alley oop play that Brad Stevens just surprised us with"

[Dex]

Tried to run the RJ lob, but Lonnie wasn't there and Rudy is a stupid fucking passer.

[sananspursfan21]

What was that play out of the time out? I know they’re tired, but that was idiotic

[ace3g]

lol

[sananspursfan21]

Gave up a 32 point lead :lol

[Degoat]

What the fuck lmao! This game screams lose the rest of the games this season what an absolute fcking joke

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

:wow lonnie

[Philthemage]

Pop needs to take some sort of responsibility for this. Not saying hes gotta get fired but this is on him and hes gotta recognize that

[John B]

Why pass it to Demar who would have to pass to a 3pt shooter?? Dumb

[LeBowen]

Even if you're the worst team in the league that's intentionally tanking, this shit is inexcusable.

[ace3g]

Rudy checks in -- dynamic duo complete, use your imagination how the final seconds resulted in...

[Leetonidas]

This is the stupidest team I've ever seen. Biggest assortment of low IQ players who have no fucking clue how to execute or manage clock

[Barfunk]

Pop needs to take some sort of responsibility for this. Not saying hes gotta get fired but this is on him and hes gotta recognize that

Pop don't give a fuck about that

[John B]

That was the most stupid loss I've seen

[spurs1990]

They robbed Tatum of 61 pts

[AusSpur]

OMG Rudy!

Lucky he was on :lol

[RD2191]

:lol

[RC_Drunkford]

of course Flopovich had to waste 2 time outs for that dumb alley oop play

[Robz4000]

What an embarrassment. This team needs to lose out in the worst way.

[PhantomDashCam]

We don’t even get a shot up…Holy Cow…wowsers…

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

dear lord cut everyone burn the spurs front office down salt the earth and start over again in vegas

[Kurgan]

Fatty making a three after the game is already over :lol.

Joke of a shot, joke of a game, joke of a season

[MannyIsGod]

What an absolute shit show

[ace3g]

Just pathetic

Final/OT


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2
3
4
OT
T


SA
39
38
26
25
12
140


BOS
16
32
42
38
15
143

[BatManu20]

Lonnie is such a terrible defender.

[RC_Drunkford]

Even if you're the worst team in the league that's intentionally tanking, this shit is inexcusable.

you mean like OKC, who we lost against twice and who just beat these Celtics? :lol

[212094ever]

lol career losers with the fitting end

[cjw]

You don’t deserve to win if you give up a 32 point lead

But Spurs should have gotten ball up three in OT with that horrible foul call that was overturned. That was bad

[Dex]

This is either high-level tanking.....or the worst fucking regular-season loss the Spurs have ever suffered

[KaiRMD1]

Fucking pathetic, just a pathetic clown ass team.

[Uriel]

Is it true we blew a 32 point lead?

[LeBowen]

Sixers and two games at Jazz coming up.
Hopefully we lose by 100pts combined.

[itzsoweezee]

This might be the lowest point in the last three years for the Spurs. What a joke

[Kurgan]

Of course the spineless San Antonio media won't grill Pop or the players about this embarrassing loss. San Antonio has the worst sports journalism in the country because they're afraid of being blacklisted by Pop's regime.

[Spurtacular]

:lol If Spurs choke.

Page 5.

[TimDunkem]

.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA





:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[212094ever]

Rudy is surely one of the dumbest players I've ever seen. Javale McGee level dumb.

[spurs10]

Is it true we blew a 32 point lead? Fact.

[Biggems]

So I guess the Spurs were castrated at the half.....cause the entire squad showed no balls the rest of the game.

[paperboy77]

Of course the spineless San Antonio media won't grill Pop or the players about this embarrassing loss. San Antonio has the worst sports journalism in the country because they're afraid of being blacklisted by Pop's regime.

Careful dude.. they frown on Pop criticism around here.

[BillMc]

I only saw the last 10 seconds of overtime. But this sounds VERY depressing...

[timtonymanu]

Of course the spineless San Antonio media won't grill Pop or the players about this embarrassing loss. San Antonio has the worst sports journalism in the country because they're afraid of being blacklisted by Pop's regime.

Mike Monroe: Pop uhh Demar had uhh 30 points and 14 assists uhhh what can you say about his impact night in and night out?
Jeff McFaggot: *chews gum and reads SpursTalk for his next article piece

[cjw]

If this doesn’t show you how important Derrick White is, don’t know what to tell you

[venitian navigator]

Shame on us... What a terrible game... Lack of personality...expecially from our coach. The refs were giving to Boston an incredible amount of and 1 without reason... With no one protesting they were allowed to do that for too long till the point to put the game in reach again for Boston... That is inexcusable. We had our advantage thanks to good game and percentages... They went back yhaks to an incredible amount of call on their favor with no one saying a word to let the refs stop favoring the home team...

[GB20]

Rudy is surely one of the dumbest players I've ever seen. Javale McGee level dumb.
At least Javale has three championships.

[itzsoweezee]

Very important for the development of young guys to learn how to blow 30 point leads. So important that these vets are around

[paperboy77]

Pop needs to take some sort of responsibility for this. Not saying hes gotta get fired but this is on him and hes gotta recognize that

Out with the old I say. Great if they fired this guy. (Hey they fired Landry!)

[Kurgan]

This might be the lowest point in the last three years for the Spurs. What a joke

Worst loss in the last 30 years. At least after the 2013 Finals, we still had the big three and a young Kawhi to look forward to the year after. In 1996, we had a lotto pick. We have nothing in our near future except treadmill picks, middling talent and a front office run by a castoff from Pistons/Magic. Spurs are a joke of a team with no future. Extending Demar in the summer will be the cherry on top of the shit sundae

[BillMc]

Why did Devin only get 15 minutes? Did he get hurt?

[BillMc]

Very important for the development of young guys to learn how to blow 30 point leads

Builds character. :lol

[fresnodog]

See ya next year. Worst fkn loss in years!

[Kurgan]

Mike Monroe: Pop uhh Demar had uhh 30 points and 14 assists uhhh what can you say about his impact night in and night out?
Jeff McFaggot: *chews gum and reads SpursTalk for his next article piece

Remember when our beat writer said the Spurs have won enough and it's time for other teams to have their turn? Worst sports journalists in the country

[Robz4000]

Why did Devin only get 15 minutes? Did he get hurt?

:pop:

[paperboy77]

of course Flopovich had to waste 2 time outs for that dumb alley oop play

80% screw-up on Pop but Lonnie didn't even try. If you are a dunker like he is he needs to power thru that weak as defense. Just jump in the direction of the rim and in today's NBA that will be a foul. He should be able to immediately recognize the position the defender is taking and either execute the play or understand you need to make the refs call something.

I take it back.. it's 99% on grampa for not knowing Lonnie is really a soft player.

[Degoat]

Why did Devin only get 15 minutes? Did he get hurt?

TBH he just didn’t look good out there

[Dex]

I only saw the last 10 seconds of overtime. But this sounds VERY depressing...

In the first half, we looked like the 2016 Warriors.

In the second half, we looked like the 2012 Bobcats.

[Arcadian]

:lol what a shitty spurs team this is. watched the 4Q and OT, but rarely do I watch a full game anymore.

[offset formation]

Now Spurs are fucking tapped for the next game because Pop destroyed his starter's legs in the midst of a daunting schedule and no more than one day off in between games.

He's demonstrating a stubborness that is clearly hurting his team. I've had enough. He has to go.

Just dont bring in Becky. Will or Ime

[BillMc]

TBH he just didn’t look good out there

Thanks. Not looking good in what way? Missing rotations? Gumming up the offense? Slow and sick? Cheers.

[paperboy77]

At least Javale has three championships.

Wow. That's sad as hell.

[BillMc]

In the first half, we looked like the 2016 Warriors.

In the second half, we looked like the 2012 Bobcats.

That's quite a Jekyl and Hyde team we have.

[KaiRMD1]

Worst loss in the last 30 years. At least after the 2013 Finals, we still had the big three and a young Kawhi to look forward to the year after. In 1996, we had a lotto pick. We have nothing in our near future except treadmill picks, middling talent and a front office run by a castoff from Pistons/Magic. Spurs are a joke of a team with no future. Extending Demar in the summer will be the cherry on top of the shit sundae
This is a hundred percent true, there's really nothing to look forward to with this team

[Kurgan]

Spurs fans used to laugh at teams that featured career losers like Demar and Rudy Gay. Now we're the team that every NBA fan laughs at

[PhantomDashCam]

I only saw the last 10 seconds of overtime. But this sounds VERY depressing...

Bill, I’m going to be honest, it was almost comical for me. I would usually take losses like this poorly but I just laughed at the comedy of errors laid out before me.

The icing on the cake was a play drawn up for a Lonnie Walker Alley Oop - off a Rudy Gay lob, from out of bounds that ended up in that same, very fitting position too by sailing out, high over his head on the other side of the court.

I’m assuming the secondary action was for a Jakob 3 in the corner…

Such a tough game to grade as Spurs played some of their best team basketball in the first half all year and then inexplicably went away from it as Boston tightened the screws.

This loss may fester for some time…

[Degoat]

This is a hundred percent true, there's really nothing to look forward to with this team

This is why I think this summer the spurs need to do everything in their power to find there next franchise player. Easier said then done but every player should be available at draft time if they believe they can trade up for a player who could be the next franchise player because let’s be real I love the young guys but none of them are franchise players

[Robz4000]

Spurs fans used to laugh at teams that featured career losers like Demar and Rudy Gay. Now we're the team that every NBA fan laughs at

:lol it's nuts how far this franchise has fallen, and so quickly too

[paperboy77]

Now Spurs are fucking tapped for the next game because Pop destroyed his starter's legs in the midst of a daunting schedule and no more than one day off in between games.

He's demonstrating a stubborness that is clearly hurting his team. I've had enough. He has to go.

Just dont bring in Becky. Will or Ime

Eventually we all come to that conclusion. Some sooner than others.

Biggest damn reason we NEVER went back to back! People have been noticing his shitty coaching skills since way back but the big 3 kept him looking like a genius. This man is the ultimate freeloader. This is NBA welfare!

That and we have the shittiest media around. A bunch of yes men.

[paperboy77]

Bill, I’m going to be honest, it was almost comical for me. I would usually take losses like this poorly but I just laughed at the comedy of errors laid out before me.

The icing on the cake was a play drawn up for a Lonnie Walker Alley Oop - off a Rudy Gay lob, from out of bounds that ended up in that same, very fitting position too by sailing out, high over his head on the other side of the court.

I’m assuming the secondary action was for a Jakob 3 in the corner…

Such a tough game to grade as Spurs played some of their best team basketball in the first half all year and then inexplicably went away from it as Boston tightened the screws.

This loss may fester for some time…


:lol :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:l ol:lol:lol What else can i do?

[BillMc]

Bill, I’m going to be honest, it was almost comical for me. I would usually take losses like this poorly but I just laughed at the comedy of errors laid out before me.

The icing on the cake was a play drawn up for a Lonnie Walker Alley Oop - off a Rudy Gay lob, from out of bounds that ended up in that same, very fitting position too by sailing out, high over his head on the other side of the court.

I’m assuming the secondary action was for a Jakob 3 in the corner…

Such a tough game to grade as Spurs played some of their best team basketball in the first half all year and then inexplicably went away from it as Boston tightened the screws.

This loss may fester for some time…

Cheers bro. Thanks for the breakdown. I've seen references already to the infamous "Lonnie Lob" play in the thread. Not sure I'll look it up on Youtube. I see Lonnie scored 24, so do we take comfort in that? He's getting 20 point games more frequently. Or was he a turnstile on defense?

[Darius Bieber]

Eventually we all come to that conclusion. Some sooner than others.

Biggest damn reason we NEVER went back to back! People have been noticing his shitty coaching skills since way back but the big 3 kept him looking like a genius. This man is the ultimate freeloader. This is NBA welfare!

That and we have the shittiest media around. A bunch of yes men.

Pop wouldn’t last a season with the Nets or the Knicks with that NYC media.

[paperboy77]

TiMVP you MUST give the forum the grades it needs!

[Kurgan]

Pop wouldn’t last a season with the Nets or the Knicks with that NYC media.

Yup, they would eat him alive. His regime of yes men keep him secure in his safe space in San Antonio.

[Degoat]

I didn’t even realize Tatum dropped a 60 piece on us LMAO!!

[RC_Drunkford]

80% screw-up on Pop but Lonnie didn't even try. If you are a dunker like he is he needs to power thru that weak as defense. Just jump in the direction of the rim and in today's NBA that will be a foul. He should be able to immediately recognize the position the defender is taking and either execute the play or understand you need to make the refs call something.

I take it back.. it's 99% on grampa for not knowing Lonnie is really a soft player.

that was about to be my answer :lol

[siraulo23]

got damn 60 piece for tatum

[RC_Drunkford]

Cheers bro. Thanks for the breakdown. I've seen references already to the infamous "Lonnie Lob" play in the thread. Not sure I'll look it up on Youtube. I see Lonnie scored 24, so do we take comfort in that? He's getting 20 point games more frequently. Or was he a turnstile on defense?

Lonnie was the reason we didn't lose in regulation. He was the only player who answered the Celtics run. Nothing to complain here

[BillMc]

Between the 30 point comeback and Tatum's 60 point game, Bostonians will be there usual Sports-arrogant selves for a while.:lol

Oh, well, you let Tom Brady go....Now, you're stuck with Bill Belichick. Like being stuck with Pop.

[PhantomDashCam]

Cheers bro. Thanks for the breakdown. I've seen references already to the infamous "Lonnie Lob" play in the thread. Not sure I'll look it up on Youtube. I see Lonnie scored 24, so do we take comfort in that? He's getting 20 point games more frequently. Or was he a turnstile on defense?

IMHO, Lonnie wasn’t the problem, it was Gay throwing the pass. He just isn’t very good at sharing the ball and the play wasn’t there, Lonnie was too well guarded. Needed to get the ball in play first and run another set. A PG would have seen that, there was still plenty of time on the clock too. It was just, in all honesty, a bizarre play that punctuated an embarrassing second half performance.

I thought Poeltl was rock solid all night, as well as KJ. Lonnie was a reason the lead didn’t diminish sooner. His shot making kept us in it.

[Kurgan]

This is the stupidest team I've ever seen. Biggest assortment of low IQ players who have no fucking clue how to execute or manage clock

Our entire offense is nothing but midrange isos. Shitty coaching combined with low iq players makes this the most painful team to watch in Spur history

[BillMc]

Lonnie was the reason we didn't lose in regulation. He was the only player who answered the Celtics run. Nothing to complain here

Cheers. Lonnie potentially developing is really one of the few beacons of hope.

[BillMc]

IMHO, Lonnie wasn’t the problem, it was Gay throwing the pass. He just isn’t very good at sharing the ball and the play wasn’t there, Lonnie was too well guarded. Needed to get the ball in play first and run another set. A PG would have seen that, there was still plenty of time on the clock too. It was just, in all honesty, a bizarre play that punctuated an embarrassing second half performance.

I thought Poeltl was rock solid all night, as well as KJ. Lonnie was a reason the lead didn’t diminish sooner. His shot making kept us in it.

Cheers man!

[RC_Drunkford]

TiMVP you MUST give the forum the grades it needs!

he will give everybody a B. They fought hard and lost by 3 in OT, you can't give out Fs for that :lol

[Kurgan]

Fatty Mills cancerous offense/defense combined with Murray disappearing in the 2nd half killed us. Really needed another guard option. Derrick was sorely missed. Spurs may need to think about drafting another guard this summer(one that can shoot 3s)

[gambit1990]

Pop wouldn’t last a season with the Nets or the Knicks with that NYC media.
overblown tbh.

they'd eat up his politics. and neither team has ever had a coach with his pedigree. he'd be a legend just for getting the knicks to the second round.

[GAustex]

Has any team blown a 32 point lead this season? Fully expect the Spurs to be the first.
fortune teller

[Kurgan]

overblown tbh.

they'd eat up his politics. and neither team has ever had a coach with his pedigree. he'd be a legend just for getting the knicks to the second round.

The NY media chased off Phil Jackson. Pop wouldn't cut it tbh

[gambit1990]

The NY media chased off Phil Jackson. Pop wouldn't cut it tbh
the knicks still sucked with him there though and even then, he lasted three years.

the post i replied to said pop wouldn't make it one season.

[GAustex]

Pop now has the title of worst coach in the nba. No other coach would have choked this game

[Kurgan]

Only way this loss could have been worse is if the Lakers/Clippers delivered it instead of the Celts. Boston being an Eastern Conference team without much history against the Spurs makes them pretty neutral overall. Still embarrassing and the absolute low point of the season and Demar era in general

[Mugen]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Kurgan]

Was actually planning on going to a game in May but this loss has made me reconsider. I refuse to support this garbage organization until they clean house and dump Pop/Wright/Buford.

[NASpurs]

I didn’t watch the game and read the recap.

”San Antonio shot 71.4% in the first half, leading by as many as 32 points in the second quarter. The Spurs held a 31-point lead in the third before the Celtics started a furious rally that required an extra five minutes to complete. “


:lol glad I didn’t watch

[gambit1990]

could you imagine being a drunk spurs fan at the game in boston?

enjoying the first half of the game so much that you get even more drunk and then have to watch the second half :lol

[GAustex]

Legendary Spurs Head Coach Greggy Poop squanders a 32 point lead as his Spurs fall in a record setting loss.

Who is really not surprised by this coaching and team management?

[Chomag]

It was simple, Boston made adjustments and Pop didn't do a damn thing thing to change or counter anything per par.. I can't believe people are still defending this old man.

[timtonymanu]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

Its unfortunate we’re gonna have to extend this season because of the stupid play-in

[DeRozan m8]

This team is run and coached by morons

Retire and fire these fucks

[GAustex]

Watching the game in the first half could not believe what was happening
In the second half-I knew it was coming.
Most here knew.
This was a failure of leadership.
Legendary Pop-LOfuckingL
Pop aint jack w/o Tim Duncan or #2

[objective]

Mills showed why his 'veteran leadership' is a scam. "Oh, but he's teaching the young ones the championship way!". Please.

When things were quickly spiraling, that was when Mills needed to be the level headed vet to take control and use the clock to get a good shot. Instead he cold checks brick 3s at the start of the clock. Lonnie does it and I get it, he was actually making threes and is on his first deal. What the hell is Patty's excuse?

And at the end of the first half was pure Mills. Guaranteed bad shot or turnover to end quarters, and sure enough he dribbles the ball out of bounds and blames Lonnie.

And on the next defensive possession he gets easily handled and then pathetically flops, and the only reason there wasn't a Boston dunk on the pass after the help rotates to cover for Mills trash defense is that the pass was bad

[NASpurs]

Tough season for Pop’s Seat Sniffing Crew. You dumbasses can’t spin his incompetence anymore.

[poopbox]

overblown tbh.

they'd eat up his politics. and neither team has ever had a coach with his pedigree. he'd be a legend just for getting the knicks to the second round.

The problem is that gregg with two g's is such a shit coach that i do not believe for one second he could have had the next playing as well as Thibs has this year.

Gregg with two g's is one of the worst coaches in the nba if not the flat out worst coach. I can't think of one team in the the nba who has a better record than they do now if Pop was the coach

[slick'81]

For all those saying soft tank ,just what exactly are the spurs tanking for? They're virtually stuck in 10th despite no teams really giving a fck about the play in 8-10 seeds. This shit team is trying to win but cant get the fck out of treadmill mode. What a fucking shame

:lolPatty mills 6thmoty

[Wu36]

Legendary Spurs Head Coach Greggy Poop squanders a 32 point lead as his Spurs fall in a record setting loss.

Who is really not surprised by this coaching and team management?you sound like them. Grow up. It happens
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/2650fba1-7652-46ec-85b9-a36f713457d0

[Budkin]

Man, shitty choke job with ZERO adjustments by Pop.

[lefty]

could you imagine being a drunk spurs fan at the game in boston?

enjoying the first half of the game so much that you get even more drunk and then have to watch the second half :lol
:lol

[timtonymanu]

For all those saying soft tank ,just what exactly are the spurs tanking for? They're virtually stuck in 10th despite no teams really giving a fck about the play in 8-10 seeds. This shit team is trying to win but cant get the fck out of treadmill mode. What a fucking shame

:lolPatty mills 6thmoty

And they will continue in soft tank mode as long as they keep relying on Derozan. They need to embrace the hardcore tank, trade away some of the young guys to get better talent. Staying as is will do them no favors in the long run. They should have embraced the tank after Nephew quit on them.

[Snaq O'Meal]

It was simple, Boston made adjustments and Pop didn't do a damn thing thing to change or counter anything per par.. I can't believe people are still defending this old man.

Pop already has an excuse for not adjusting. It’s called “pounding the rock,” where he’ll keep doing the same shit till the very end.

[daslicer]

This type of loss would have gotten me angry when the Spurs were contenders but with the way things are now I can say I'm not enraged.

[Spurtacular]

Between the 30 point comeback and Tatum's 60 point game, Bostonians will be there usual Sports-arrogant selves for a while.:lol

Oh, well, you let Tom Brady go....Now, you're stuck with Bill Belichick. Like being stuck with Pop.

:lol

Though some think Bill Belicek is actually a great coach; I guess we'll have to see.

[Fireball]

just watched the game ... always bad to be up by 30 points and then you look at length of the video already indicating this game goes to OT ... great choke job by the Spurs and man I miss the good old times when even the hottest guys in the league could not score 30 on us

[r0drig0lac]

Hahahahahahaha

[duncan2k5]

TBH he just didn’t look good out there
If that was a reason not to play him, the old ducks would have been benched long time ago

[TimDunkem]

Pop already has an excuse for not adjusting. It’s called “pounding the rock,” where he’ll keep doing the same shit till the very end.
One of the O.G. Truth Nukers. Post more, scrah.

[John B]

How Spurs standards went downhill. TD would secure those rebounds every time especially when the game is on the line.

[John B]

just watched the game ... always bad to be up by 30 points and then you look at length of the video already indicating this game goes to OT ... great choke job by the Spurs and man I miss the good old times when even the hottest guys in the league could not score 30 on us
Especially when you already know who’s going to score every time. If it’s not working, why not try Luka or Diop on Tatum, just to have a different look?

[duncan2k5]

And they will continue in soft tank mode as long as they keep relying on Derozan. They need to embrace the hardcore tank, trade away some of the young guys to get better talent. Staying as is will do them no favors in the long run. They should have embraced the tank after Nephew quit on them.

With the way the Spurs have been handling player injuries the past several years, not to mention horrible FO decision one after the next, why do we still somehow assume Kawhi didn't have a legit gripe with the FO?

But that aside, I actually think if we started the season without DDR and LMA, we would have a better record... there's irony for u... Lol

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

How Spurs standards went downhill. TD would secure those rebounds every time especially when the game is on the line.

timmay didn’t make every single tip-in though

:depressed

[GAustex]

DJM disappeared when they needed him. He was missing white TBH

[John B]

timmay didn’t make every single tip-in though

:depressed

He would if that meant the game. Working on my Top 10 Spurs list, I miss Tiago’s hard work.

[duncan2k5]

DJM disappeared when they needed him. He was missing white TBH

He didn't disappear...he had to defer to the temperamental "star" Derozan... It's sad when the young guys are the ones that have to keep him in check

[GAustex]

Spin your DJM crap. He’s ok but he ain’t no PG.
where was Murray when the team needed him.
He did not show.

[boutons_deux]

He would if that meant the game. Working on my Top 10 Spurs list, I miss Tiago’s hard work.

Actually no

In 2005 he missed the game winning tip in forcing overtime and horry bailed him out

In the 2013 Miami series he missed another gimme

He was so disappointed and mad at himself for that missed shot at the end of the game that when he took his position on defense he pounded on the floor

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Actually no

In 2005 he missed the game winning tip in forcing overtime and horry bailed him out

In the 2013 Miami series he missed another gimme

He was so disappointed and mad at himself for that missed shot at the end of the game that when he took his position on defense he pounded on the floor

listen to this guy boutons -- he knows what he's talking about

[PhantomDashCam]

Look I’m not going to pile the hate on DDR or Pop or whoever for this loss but this quote from your best player for me is telling:

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1388331936704237569?s=20

Do you really think things weren’t going your way when you were up 32 pts, shooting 71% in the first half?
That 1 or 2 plays were the difference in the game?

Lonnie’s quote:

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1388607969575776259?s=20

Confidence is a major issue with this team. They love it when things are going their way, hitting shots, playing together etc.

When times get tough, they often wilt, go into their shell and lack trust in one another.

Now if that doesn’t strike you as somewhat reminiscent of what has been said about DDR for his whole career, I don’t know what else to tell you.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

duh ok

[duncan2k5]

Spin your DJM crap. He’s ok but he ain’t no PG.
where was Murray when the team needed him.
He did not show.

We have been blown out and also lost large leads with White... Just accept he ISNT that guy... He is about to be 27 and hasn't scored over 15 points, or dished out over 3 assists per game for a season... He is wildly inconsistent and injury prone... Murray is 2 years younger and is better than him by most metrics, and has a higher PER... I trust that prime Murray will take us farther than prime White... Ppl forget Murray was our best player earlier in the season while the team was winning without White... If he was on another team we would laugh at them for thinking a 27 year old with his stats and history is their future savior... White will never be anything more than a pretty good starter or an amazing 6th man

[tbdog]

Look I’m not going to pile the hate on DDR or Pop or whoever for this loss but this quote from your best player for me is telling:

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1388331936704237569?s=20

Do you really think things weren’t going your way when you were up 32 pts, shooting 71% in the first half?
That 1 or 2 plays were the difference in the game?

Lonnie’s quote:

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1388607969575776259?s=20

Confidence is a major issue with this team. They love it when things are going their way, hitting shots, playing together etc.

When times get tough, they often wilt, go into their shell and lack trust in one another.

Now if that doesn’t strike you as somewhat reminiscent of what has been said about DDR for his whole career, I don’t know what else to tell you.

I actually noticed that Murray was losing his cool when things were getting tighter in the 4th. I felt Murray had a really bad second half, especially in the 4th. As a whole, only Walker and Poeltl seemed to have the balls to make plays. Everyone else was desperately trying to get the ball to DDR and just hoping he could get them over the line. Celtics then just stacked the court. Smart was getting physical with DDR and DDR was getting tired.

[tbdog]

We have been blown out and also lost large leads with White... Just accept he ISNT that guy... He is about to be 27 and hasn't scored over 15 points, or dished out over 3 assists per game for a season... He is wildly inconsistent and injury prone... Murray is 2 years younger and is better than him by most metrics, and has a higher PER... I trust that prime Murray will take us farther than prime White... Ppl forget Murray was our best player earlier in the season while the team was winning without White... If he was on another team we would laugh at them for thinking a 27 year old with his stats and history is their future savior... White will never be anything more than a pretty good starter or an amazing 6th man

I somewhat agree. White inconsistency this year is because of missing pre season, getting covid upon returning, and overall everyone getting use to White again. I agree that Murary should technically be a better piece going forward. But it comes down where the Spurs are taking this off season. If they going for more of win now move as they have the pieces, their picks and cap space to go after a big name on the trade market - then White makes more sense as he is a glue guy right now. However, if the Spurs lose DDR and decide to go with a youth movement by going after EG Collins, then you'll obviously take Murray going forward.

[8sy21vd]

White's metrics and eye test show he's the most impactful Spurs player. He had the best +/- of anybody on the roster this season with the highest offensive rating per NBA.com. He does a lot of little things that don't show up in the box score like taking charges, contesting jump shots, etc...Unfortunately, the injuries are getting difficult to ignore and perhaps a bench role where he closes might be the best option next season. Too bad, he was having the best month of his career before the injury too. An interesting statistical analysis re: his +/-

Spurs’ offensive/defensive/net ratings when the other starters (Dejounte Murray (https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/basketball/nba/player/30324/dejounte-murray), DeMar DeRozan (https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/basketball/nba/player/29479/demar-derozan), Keldon Johnson (https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/basketball/nba/player/51041/keldon-johnson) and Jakob Poeltl (https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/basketball/nba/player/30304/jakob-poeltl)) play:


With White: 117.9/111.9/+6.0
Without White: 100.8/106.7/-5.9


Source: https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/04/29/spurs-derrick-white-expected-to-miss-rest-of-season-with-ankle-injury/

[8sy21vd]

White's metrics and eye test show he's the impactful Spurs player. He had the best +/- of anybody on the roster this season with the highest offensive rating per NBA.com. He does a lot of little things that don't show up in the box score like taking charges, contesting jump shots, etc...Unfortunately, the injuries are getting difficult to ignore and perhaps a bench role where he closes might be the best option next season. Too bad, he was having the best month of his career before the injury too. An interesting statistical analysis re: his +/-

Spurs’ offensive/defensive/net ratings when the other starters (Dejounte Murray (https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/basketball/nba/player/30324/dejounte-murray), DeMar DeRozan (https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/basketball/nba/player/29479/demar-derozan), Keldon Johnson (https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/basketball/nba/player/51041/keldon-johnson) and Jakob Poeltl (https://www.nbcsports.com/edge/basketball/nba/player/30304/jakob-poeltl)) play:


With White: 117.9/111.9/+6.0
Without White: 100.8/106.7/-5.9


Source: https://nba.nbcsports.com/2021/04/29/spurs-derrick-white-expected-to-miss-rest-of-season-with-ankle-injury/

That being said, Murray's improvement has been tangible this year. He's already a good player and still young with room to grow. I like his attitude and think he can be an AS. It's strange there are so many Murray/White haters on this board because these two were late first round picks who have become good players with potential to further develop. Most teams would love to have either. Neither is 'the guy' but Spurs' fans should love both.

[R. DeMurre]

Especially when you already know who’s going to score every time. If it’s not working, why not try Luka or Diop on Tatum, just to have a different look?

Yep. I think Pop gets away from the concept of defensive length far too often.

[duncan2k5]

Yep. I think Pop gets away from the concept of defensive length far too often.

Pop doesn't get the concept of small ball...he literally thinks players have to be small...but small ball isn't a thing anymore...the best teams are big...it's just that bigs can shoot and dribble now more often than past years...back then u had to go with small players because they were the only ones that could shoot and dribble fairly well