View Full Version : Judge Jackson orders DOJ to turn over Barr Memo
djohn2oo8
05-04-2021, 12:22 PM
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Trainwreck2100
05-04-2021, 12:24 PM
Isn't it just the "we don't charge sitting presidents" memo
djohn2oo8
05-04-2021, 12:25 PM
Isn't it just the "we don't charge sitting presidents" memo
Read the article and you’ll find a “series of misrepresentations”
djohn2oo8
05-04-2021, 12:30 PM
Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled that the contents of the memo “call[] into question the accuracy of Attorney General Barr’s March 24 representation to Congress,” specifically that Mueller had left it to the attorney general to determine whether the conduct his report describes is a crime, and that OLC’s description of the document “served to obscure the true purpose of the memorandum,” which CREW argued was to help Barr spin his version of the Mueller Report.
After reviewing the OLC memo, Judge Jackson found that it “raises serious questions about how the Department of Justice could make this series of representations to a court,” concluding that “It is time for the public to see that [the memo], too.”
ElNono
05-04-2021, 03:41 PM
Decision here: https://www.citizensforethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/show_public_doc.pdf
And of even greater importance to this decision, the affidavits are so inconsistent with evidence in the record, they are not worthy of credence. The review of the unredacted document in camera reveals that the suspicions voiced by the judge in EPIC and the plaintiff here were well-founded, and that not only was the Attorney General being disingenuous then, but DOJ has been disingenuous to this Court with respect to the existence of a decision-making process that should be shielded by the deliberative process privilege. The agency’s redactions and incomplete explanations obfuscate the true purpose of the memorandum, and the excised portions belie the notion that it fell to the Attorney General to make a prosecution decision or that any such decision was on the table at any time
:lol damn, it burns
daboom1
05-04-2021, 03:43 PM
beep boop
Winehole23
05-04-2021, 04:17 PM
Decision here: https://www.citizensforethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/show_public_doc.pdf
And of even greater importance to this decision, the affidavits are so inconsistent with evidence in the record, they are not worthy of credence. The review of the unredacted document in camera reveals that the suspicions voiced by the judge in EPIC and the plaintiff here were well-founded, and that not only was the Attorney General being disingenuous then, but DOJ has been disingenuous to this Court with respect to the existence of a decision-making process that should be shielded by the deliberative process privilege. The agency’s redactions and incomplete explanations obfuscate the true purpose of the memorandum, and the excised portions belie the notion that it fell to the Attorney General to make a prosecution decision or that any such decision was on the table at any time
:lol damn, it burnsFederal judge accuses the DOJ of lying in court?
You don't see that very often.
Spurs Homer
05-04-2021, 04:27 PM
The cover up could not last forever -
and trump/barr/traitors were just banking on sleepy joe to go along with past history and just allow the corruption and treason to just fade away under cover...
but Merrick Garland (and this particular Judge) and the rest of the career pros in the gubmint might not go along with the cover up...
ChumpDumper
05-04-2021, 04:39 PM
beep boopWas the paragraph to difficult for you to understand?
RandomGuy
05-04-2021, 04:40 PM
beep boop
Hail satan. Your magic sky daddy isn't going to save your messiah.
Cry harder.
Spurs Homer
05-04-2021, 04:58 PM
Thespeed by which Attorney General Barr released to the public the summaryof Special Counsel Mueller’s principal conclusions, coupled with the factthat Attorney General Barr failed to provide a thorough representation ofthe findings set forth in the Mueller Report, causes the Court to questionwhether Attorney General Barr’s intent was to create a one-sided narrativeabout the Mueller Report – a narrative that is clearly in some respectssubstantively at odds with the redacted version of the Mueller Report.
called it
Spurs Homer
05-04-2021, 05:10 PM
piece of treasonous shit - Rosenstein -
sat in that meeting and concocted a letter to shield Barr and Trump and redacted their fuckery with the intent to shield everything under "executive privilege" and OLC directives -
while Barr made the claim that his opinion/decision to NOT charge the traitor - was a decision based on law -
instead that decision was being crafted by rosensteins team of traitors with the intent of shielding the president regardless of the law and of his crimes
djohn2oo8
05-05-2021, 02:04 PM
Basically Mueller wanted to prosecute. Barr didn’t. And his reasons looked suspect to her
Winehole23
05-05-2021, 02:39 PM
Basically Mueller wanted to prosecute. Barr didn’t.What makes you think so? Seems a premature conclusion based on limited info.
Adam Lambert
05-05-2021, 02:55 PM
Just more fanfic from an alternate universe where the Trump administration will face any consequences whatsoever.
boutons_deux
05-05-2021, 03:50 PM
Basically Mueller wanted to prosecute. Barr didn’t. And his reasons looked suspect to her
We don't know what Mueller wanted, and IIRC he said was special "investigator" and not special "prosecutor".
He also went along with DoJ bullshit that the President can't be indicted.
He did document 9 instances of impeachable obstruction, worse than Repug Nixon, which shitbag Barr covered up.
And we have not yet seen the entire Mueller report
RandomGuy
05-05-2021, 06:39 PM
Just more fanfic from an alternate universe where the Trump administration will face any consequences whatsoever.
Dunno. Be interesting to see what shakes out.
They were so far beyond the pale and so generally incompetent as a whole, it would not shock me to find out that they bent the rule of law until it broke in a few cases.
djohn2oo8
05-24-2021, 10:13 PM
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hell of a lot still blacked out there
boutons_deux
05-24-2021, 10:17 PM
WTF? Repugs would expose anything on the Dems
djohn2oo8
05-24-2021, 10:20 PM
WTF? Repugs would expose anything on the Dems
Two things. First, they were always going to appeal. Second, IF Barr is being investigated, certain portions of the memo might be used as an exhibit.
djohn2oo8
05-24-2021, 10:25 PM
A procedural appeal already was in the works. We will see if the rest is unredacted, but it’s a couple of pages and won’t be a good look for Barr
Winehole23
05-24-2021, 10:28 PM
A procedural appeal already was in the works. We will see if the rest is unredacted, but it’s a couple of pages and won’t be a good look for BarrGarland is protecting Biden from the same.
It's not a good look, but it makes institutional sense.
djohn2oo8
05-24-2021, 10:46 PM
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Winehole23
05-24-2021, 10:55 PM
1397035053461479428Covering Barr's "imprecision."
Judge Jackson called it deception. Biden's DOJ is fighting that.
djohn2oo8
05-25-2021, 10:05 AM
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djohn2oo8
05-25-2021, 10:06 AM
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djohn2oo8
05-25-2021, 10:12 AM
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Why did you go into hiding for 5 months after Mueller didn’t put the Trump family in prison?
djohn2oo8
05-25-2021, 10:18 AM
Page 19, last sentence into page 20. Read it.
spurraider21
05-25-2021, 10:59 AM
Ohr shit!
Winehole23
08-19-2022, 11:28 AM
whoopsie
The DOJ, responding to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit seeking disclosure of the memo, argued that virtually the entire memorandum and related records should be shielded under a FOIA exemption that protects internal government deliberations.
But the D.C. Circuit Court panel on Friday, affirming the lower court’s decision, ruled that the DOJ had failed to prove that the so-called deliberative-process privilege justified keeping the records under wraps.
The panel said the OLC memo did not in fact contain a legal analysis of whether Barr should pursue charges against Trump, but rather what, if anything, Barr should say to Congress and the public about Mueller’s voluminous findings.
“Because the Department did not tie the memorandum to deliberations about the relevant decision, the Department failed to justify its reliance on the deliberative-process privilege,” Chief Judge Sri Srinivasan wrote for the panel.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3607920-appeals-court-says-doj-improperly-redacted-memo-to-ag-barr-on-trump-obstruction/
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