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Uriel
05-06-2021, 12:04 AM
On February 14, the Spurs were rolling. They’d just won three straight and were holding a 16-11 record and the 6 seed in the West.

Two days later, 4 Spurs players would test positive for COVID after Quinndary Weatherspoon was identified as a superspreader. Their next 5 games would be postponed and the team would never look the same since.

It’s not just that COVID broke the team’s momentum. It’s not just that it debilitated those that got infected and forced them to have to regain their conditioning. It’s also that all the delayed games got pushed to the second half of the schedule, and now it’s taking a physical and mental toll on the team, as we’re currently seeing.

Could all of this have been prevented if Quinndary Weatherspoon hadn’t been a superspreader?

ginobilized
05-06-2021, 12:13 AM
Certainly one of many catastrophes this season that contributed to a less than stellar season.

On the other hand, the Jazz seem to have overcome their COVID issues.

timtonymanu
05-06-2021, 12:16 AM
It affected guys like Derrick and Keldon, but imo the team just overachieved early on and they've always been inconsistent.

Plus they lost LaMarcus, while he looked done this season, that was a big loss to their production.

NK123
05-06-2021, 02:49 AM
Stop trying to see what is not there.

The only constant is Pop.

Has has not been able to adapt to the new NBA.

We don't have enough shooting, yes. We don't have enough stars, yes.

What can explain the losses to injury plaged teams like the Pacers and the Clippers?

Pop is no longer elite. He is not modern enough.

He is still working with an Iphone 7 like system, which is better than most bad phones but is much worse than Iphone 12 Pro Max or Xiaomi Mi 11 and OnePlus 9 Pro.

Aknowledge what is in front of your eyes. The league has evolved. Pop has not (enough).

We have enough to be top 6 but the coaching has not be good.

NK123
05-06-2021, 02:53 AM
Size, speed, shooting, spacing, athleticism.

That's all we need to leverage.

tbdog
05-06-2021, 03:19 AM
Pop lacks commitment to the team that's not going anywhere. There's no fire. A combination of the team make up, covid, age, Olympic commitment, and the league overall change of style has left him disinterested.

rankingtear
05-06-2021, 06:54 AM
Stop trying to see what is not there.

The only constant is Pop.

Has has not been able to adapt to the new NBA.

We don't have enough shooting, yes. We don't have enough stars, yes.

What can explain the losses to injury plaged teams like the Pacers and the Clippers?

Pop is no longer elite. He is not modern enough.

He is still working with an Iphone 7 like system, which is better than most bad phones but is much worse than Iphone 12 Pro Max or Xiaomi Mi 11 and OnePlus 9 Pro.

Aknowledge what is in front of your eyes. The league has evolved. Pop has not (enough).

We have enough to be top 6 but the coaching has not be good.

What does pop need to do to be more modern?

BG_Spurs_Fan
05-06-2021, 06:57 AM
What does pop need to do to be more modern?

Let me guess - shoot MOAR threes !!11!1!

Blackhaus
05-06-2021, 07:04 AM
That outbreak def didn’t help any. Also Whites inability to stay on the floor coupled with Pops continuance to overplay Patty and dev the youth has had a bigger impact IMO

tbdog
05-06-2021, 07:07 AM
Considering we lost LMA and White - that's like 40mil not playing.

exstatic
05-06-2021, 07:17 AM
It affected guys like Derrick and Keldon, but imo the team just overachieved early on and they've always been inconsistent.

Plus they lost LaMarcus, while he looked done this season, that was a big loss to their production.

LMA was shut down BEFORE the Spurs went on their little spurt.

As for the Jazz, I don’t believe they ever stopped playing. We did, and Memphis also did, but I don’t remember any other teams stopping play.

JeffDuncan
05-06-2021, 07:42 AM
Yeah, I’m sure that a guy who doesn’t play, or coach, is responsible for all the team’s problems.

You poor dim witted dimwit.

niraj2000
05-06-2021, 08:08 AM
On February 14, the Spurs were rolling. They’d just won three straight and were holding a 16-11 record and the 6 seed in the West.

Two days later, 4 Spurs players would test positive for COVID after Quinndary Weatherspoon was identified as a superspreader. Their next 5 games would be postponed and the team would never look the same since.

It’s not just that COVID broke the team’s momentum. It’s not just that it debilitated those that got infected and forced them to have to regain their conditioning. It’s also that all the delayed games got pushed to the second half of the schedule, and now it’s taking a physical and mental toll on the team, as we’re currently seeing.

Could all of this have been prevented if Quinndary Weatherspoon hadn’t been a superspreader?

The team is built flawed. We need a modern day 3 and 4. Keldon does not cut at 3. I need use 50mil cap space to get defensive 3 and 4, move Derrick to Manu role and move on from DD, Mills and Gay.

BG_Spurs_Fan
05-06-2021, 08:22 AM
The team is built flawed. We need a modern day 3 and 4. Keldon does not cut at 3. I need use 50mil cap space to get defensive 3 and 4, move Derrick to Manu role and move on from DD, Mills and Gay.

These are the defensive 3s and 4s FAs :

Paul Millsap
PJ Tucker
Otto Porter
Andre Iguodala
Trevor Ariza
Derrick Jones
Nic Batum
Torrey Craig

Who do you hand the $50 mil cap space to?

PrimeMinister
05-06-2021, 08:26 AM
Maybe he actually set in motion a course of events that lands this franchise a talent in the draft that could change the team

PrimeMinister
05-06-2021, 08:27 AM
These are the defensive 3s and 4s FAs :

Paul Millsap
PJ Tucker
Otto Porter
Andre Iguodala
Trevor Ariza
Derrick Jones
Nic Batum
Torrey Craig

Who do you hand the $50 mil cap space to?

Dr Kevorkian

niraj2000
05-06-2021, 08:31 AM
Millsap, Otto Porter, JaMychal Green (if he declines his player option), use the cap space to absorb a contract and send out a TPE

NK123
05-06-2021, 09:41 AM
What does pop need to do to be more modern?

Being more modern is not the same as do what others are doing. It means adapting and creating a thing that responds to what is happening in front of your eyes.

We have enough talent to win more games.
Even without White: DJM - DD - DV - Luka - Poeltl starting line up is good enough to cause problems.

Instead of 5in /5 out substitution pattern, Sub Luka for Rudy and Lonnie for DDR and KJ for DV.
Then, Sub Eubanks, DDR and Luka for DJM, KJ and Poeltl.

Always keep at least 2 or 3 starters througout the whole game.
Have two players over 6'9 on the floor. We need to limit either 3's or shots 5 ft or closer.
We have enough bigs to avoid shots close to the basket.

Play line-ups that are bigger than the adversary. Luka and Gay should play all the minutes available at the 4.
No more 6'5 and under PF experiments.

No more Patty for more than 15 minutes.

Stop the drop coverage or alternate it to keep offenses guessing. We did it against Dallas and it resulted.

This are changes that would create more miss-matches in favor of our team.
Pop has been nothing more than average since 2019.

Is he was that great, USA teams would win more games.

El Santo
05-06-2021, 09:43 AM
Is he injured he hasnt been playing at all?

couchman
05-06-2021, 11:04 AM
Covid really hurt the team, perhaps more than most are willing to admit, but at this point that excuse doesn't work anymore.
What we're seeing now is a team that has essentially quit.
There is no consistency in anything they do. They aren't great at anything.
The last two games hammered home the reality that this team has ZERO chance to do anything positive, even if they make the playoffs.
We should be tanking now, and perhaps that has already begun.

The problem with consistency starts with Pop's lineups and substitution patterns constantly changing.
He hasn't decided who he wants the team to be.
This team is too young and the young guys aren't adapting well to having different roles and responsibilities every other game.
We have a lot of promising talent but how can they develop in this environment?

Big choices need to be made this offseason, including whether Pop wants to commit to being great again.
He seems to be coasting.
I think he can be great again, but he needs to find that fire or retire

Go Spurs Go!

TimDunkem
05-06-2021, 11:31 AM
Yeah blame the worst guy on the team who barely plays instead of the shit FO, shit head coach, and roster with a mix of green, limited players and losers like Gay and DDR.

slick'81
05-06-2021, 11:33 AM
The excuse train is pulling into the station. Spurs arent the only team dealing with covid. As long as demar ,patty and gay are your "closers" this team is what it is. Its been a slow,steady decline since the demar trade, and that isnt changing as long as the team is constructed this way

R. DeMurre
05-06-2021, 11:36 AM
:lol Quinndary didn't try to build a winning team around two old fashioned midrange shooters, one of whom had already asked for a trade.

Ed Helicopter Jones
05-06-2021, 01:46 PM
The Spurs had 4 or 5 easy wins ahead of them and were on a roll, so yes, I think the quarantine hurt. After players came back the schedule became very condensed and the momentum was gone.

KobesAchilles
05-06-2021, 01:47 PM
Kawhi leaving ruined our season :cry

GreekSpursfan
05-06-2021, 02:52 PM
After the covid incident Pop should've pulled the plug and start the tanking process right there. There is no talent here, we need real talent. I love Pop unlike others here but he's responsible for whatever is happening or not at this moment and time.
He's trying to keep a winning culture but without talented players whatever he's trying is fools gold.

TD 21
05-06-2021, 04:09 PM
:lmao Is this serious? This flawed, untalented team was never going anywhere. They had a decent start aided by a combination of continuity, schedule, health (minus White) and rare clutch time luck.

If anything it's too bad the inevitable crash back down to earth didn't occur sooner to guarantee better lottery odds, though if anyone could squander this lead and get caught at the end, it'd be them. They love finding new ways to embarrass themselves.



Let me guess - shoot MOAR threes !!11!1!

:lmao As if this is not a more than legitimate gripe. You apologists are beyond ridiculous.

offset formation
05-06-2021, 09:59 PM
On February 14, the Spurs were rolling. They’d just won three straight and were holding a 16-11 record and the 6 seed in the West.

Two days later, 4 Spurs players would test positive for COVID after Quinndary Weatherspoon was identified as a superspreader. Their next 5 games would be postponed and the team would never look the same since.

It’s not just that COVID broke the team’s momentum. It’s not just that it debilitated those that got infected and forced them to have to regain their conditioning. It’s also that all the delayed games got pushed to the second half of the schedule, and now it’s taking a physical and mental toll on the team, as we’re currently seeing.

Could all of this have been prevented if Quinndary Weatherspoon hadn’t been a superspreader?

Yes.

james evans
05-06-2021, 10:51 PM
What does pop need to do to be more modern?
first of all, stop signing these slow ass, non defensive centers that can't do anything but score under the basket off put backs or passes.

RC_Drunkford
05-07-2021, 11:14 AM
These are the defensive 3s and 4s FAs :

Paul Millsap
PJ Tucker
Otto Porter
Andre Iguodala
Trevor Ariza
Derrick Jones
Nic Batum
Torrey Craig

Who do you hand the $50 mil cap space to?

:pop: I want all the guys in their late 30s

Dennis the Menace
05-07-2021, 12:55 PM
The answer is Pop. What do we have to do to get him to retire? Protest at the stadium??

Mugen
05-07-2021, 02:19 PM
If Quindarry's superspreading leads to the old man retiring and the team moving on from Derozan, I'd vote that we put #15 up in the rafters as early as next season tbh :lol

KobesAchilles
05-07-2021, 02:48 PM
I mean we were playing above our means for a good stretch. Dejounte Murray was taking 3's. Even Demar hit like 30 of em. KJ wasn't dog tired from guarding people 30 pounds more than him. And Poeltl looked like he actually belonged in the league (didn't last long though). Now Murray won't shoot 3's. Demar is doing demar shit. KJ is on dead legs and Poeltl has returned to being the back up big that he was destined to be. Add in Rudy Gay not giving a fuck about anybody and Patty returned to useless mode and none of that has to do with covid.

That was always my whole issue with the stand pat crowd. It only makes sense to stand pat if you're going to bench your vets that are leaving anyways and actually play the youth. Instead we were still closing with Patty and Rudy. Shit makes zero sense. Now with like 7 games left, Pop is like I guess I will play the youth.

RC_Drunkford
05-07-2021, 08:32 PM
I mean we were playing above our means for a good stretch. Dejounte Murray was taking 3's. Even Demar hit like 30 of em. KJ wasn't dog tired from guarding people 30 pounds more than him. And Poeltl looked like he actually belonged in the league (didn't last long though). Now Murray won't shoot 3's. Demar is doing demar shit. KJ is on dead legs and Poeltl has returned to being the back up big that he was destined to be. Add in Rudy Gay not giving a fuck about anybody and Patty returned to useless mode and none of that has to do with covid.

That was always my whole issue with the stand pat crowd. It only makes sense to stand pat if you're going to bench your vets that are leaving anyways and actually play the youth. Instead we were still closing with Patty and Rudy. Shit makes zero sense. Now with like 7 games left, Pop is like I guess I will play the youth.

It's called scouting. There's a reason I was advocating to sign a stretch big in February. It was clear that if you got enough games to watch where you can properly scout this team and game plan against them, they would fall off a cliff cause of their offensive deficiencies. That performance at the start of the season was never sustainable

TheChillFactor
05-07-2021, 08:45 PM
yes, he absolutely did. fucking typhoid mary!