Next Season THIS will be noticed...

[NK123]

- DeRozan and White are the glue guys that make this team function with some decency.

- If Demar leaves, DW will be the only player capable of making other better. Because he won’t be able to play extended minutes this team will be even worse next season. Reality will sink in and it will be too late to do something about it.

- I would rather trade DJM than let DeRozan go.

- Just saying...

[exstatic]

DeRozan is molasses poured in the gears of this offense. I would rather trade for a good backup PG to spell White than re-sign him.

[Blackhaus]

Bye Derozan. I like the dude and he’s a good player, he just has too many flaws in today’s nba game to be used as a 1 option. Hope he signs with a team that needs an extra push to make them a contender, because the Spurs are not there.

[JeffDuncan]

You mean next year we could get a top 5 draft pick, if only we dump DDR? Oh dearie be! Spare me that cruel fate.

[dbestpro]

DDR deserves to play on a team whose head coach is not senile and whose players take inconsistency to a new level.

[widowmaker]

- I would like to see you go.

- Just saying.

[R. DeMurre]

I wish DDR well, and hope he enjoys playing in LA, Charlotte, or NY.

[exstatic]

DDR deserves to play on a team whose head coach is not senile and whose players take inconsistency to a new level.
Part of that senility IS playing DDR heavy minutes, and allowing him to dominate the ball. Just sayin’.

[KingKev]

- I would like to see you go.

- Just saying.

THIS

[itzsoweezee]

A glue carrying the team to the late lottery! Gotta keep guys like that around! You’re a basketball genius

[Chinook]

It's true to some extent. Obviously, the decision to keep DeRozan has nothing to do with Murray. Like maybe it should, but Pop would gladly continue playing them together, and the two players seem to like it.

DeRozan and Murray play in a very similar style with the difference being that DeRozan plays a bit slower while being way more efficient both as a scorer and passer. In that regard, if Pop's plan is to let DeRozan go but continue to run a similar offense with Murray taking DMDR's touches and White DJM's, the offense will very likely be way worse. But if Pop goes for a down-hill style with White and a Walker who hopefully takes another leap as a finisher like the one he did as a ball-handler, then it could be better. You could argue that the ultimate health of the team is going to involve moving on from both Murray and DeRozan and potentially every perimeter player on the team currently. Getting a new more modern first option has to be a top goal for the team if it wants to contend.

[Texas_Ranger]

if they are smart they will tank for the #1 pick, but I am sure they'll rather get that 10th seed again get shit in the draft.

[talkspurs]

If DDR is one of the guys that makes this team function this he is not doing his job well and so he should be gone. In case you did not notice we are in the play in tournament only because teams are tanking and we are not. If he was good at his job we would at least be a solid playoff contender.

[rjv]

How many teams that have tanked recently are contenders now?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

How many teams that have tanked recently are contenders now?

Only Philly and it's after the mother of all tanks, which led to flattening the odds. People who act like the Spurs could be contenders after one or two top 5 picks are delusional.

[Mr. Body]

It's clear to anyone who actually knows what they're watching that losing DeRozan and Gay will have a serious impact. There were so many games where they alone were scoring and making plays. This team isn't close to a play-in game without them. Mills was the same, but fell apart down the stretch. Before the COVID lull, he was vital.

They all move on. This team will struggle, and largely for the reason you say. White is the only playmaker on the team. Murray is great as a scoring guard. Jones has some playmaking ability, but isn't ready for much time.

A lot of chuds bitch and moan on this board, but this is as good as we will be for a while. We're going to see what a real lottery team looks like, and it's been 24 years since we've been in that situation. I just hope that as the losses mount, the kids learn how to jump up a few levels. They might, but it will take time as they get crushed by a lot of much better teams.

[SAGirl]

How many teams that have tanked recently are contenders now?
Mavs got a playoff team around Doncic. Hawks are in the playoffs after a tank and roster rebuild, 76ers, Grizzlies are at least in a better position than the Spurs and one can’t even say they tanked on purpose they were trying to win with Gasol and Conley but they sucked. If anything the Parsons contract tanked them As well as their team aging and no longer being able to carry them to success. Spurs are closer to this scenario and should have traded their vets out to rebuild.

There’s only a few true contenders any year and this is a time of super teams but there are playoff teams that are fun to watch that are built through a high pick in the draft.

[BackHome]

You mean next year we could get a top 5 draft pick, if only we dump DDR? Oh dearie be! Spare me that cruel fate.


:toast

[BackHome]

Only Philly and it's after the mother of all tanks, which led to flattening the odds. People who act like the Spurs could be contenders after one or two top 5 picks are delusional.

Sorry but EVERY Ring/Championship happened because we got a number 1 draft pick - Yeah I would rather tank hard 1 or 2 years and then try and build a team then be sub 500 every after year. Again, let Derozz walk or hopefully trade him for a draft pick and left Gay go he will be a year older closer to 40 and father time has all ready caught him. As far as Mils I would let him go the young guys need to play and we not comp tinging for a title so now need for him to eat the young players minutes

[Sugus]

Mavs got a playoff team around Doncic. Hawks are in the playoffs after a tank and roster rebuild, 76ers, Grizzlies are at least in a better position than the Spurs and one can’t even say they tanked on purpose they were trying to win with Gasol and Conley but they sucked. If anything the Parsons contract tanked them As well as their team aging and no longer being able to carry them to success. Spurs are closer to this scenario and should have traded their vets out to rebuild.

There’s only a few true contenders any year and this is a time of super teams but there are playoff teams that are fun to watch that are built through a high pick in the draft.

There's another side to this coin though, one that pro-bottoming out posters never talk about.

It's actually the likelier scenario should we tank, tbh: drafting a superior talent with a top pick, the kind of talent that demands building around, yet one that isn't good enough to be the cornerstone of a championship team. Atlanta right now is the epitome of this scenario, IMO... I don't ever see a Trae Young-led team winning it all. He's far too flawed as a player, being one of the worst defenders in the entire league without a chance to get better due to poor physical attributes, and can/will forever get hunted down on defense in eternal P&Rs in whichever series he manages to play. Meanwhile, he demads total control of the ball to be at his best, leaving little opportunity to pair him with a yet superior offensive/defensive player as a "Batman" to his Robin. I see ATL being the DeRozan-era Raptors in that regard... Eternally a good RS team, dismantled in the playoffs due to flawed roster construction from the top down, until they finally move on from him.

This is not to say that the Spurs shouldn't tank. It'd certainly be better to let go of DeRozan, at the least, than whatever this season's been. BUT, I keep seeing all these posters going "the Spurs tanked to get Timmy! We'll never win a chip again if we don't tank for a star!!" as if it's a truer path for contention than trying to stay competitive and make a calculated move for a missing piece... The reality is, there's no Timmy's in every draft. Or most drafts, for that matter. You can point to the Mavs, Grizzlies or Suns for the first scenario towards a ring, and the Nuggets, Heat, Jazz for the second. There's no tried-and-true recipe to a championship (arguably the only thing that really matters in the NBA), and pro-tank posters gladly gloss over the alternative scenario where the Spurs waste 5-7+ years trying to build around a "star" talent that just won't get them to the promised land.

As they say, there are fates worse than death...

[tim_duncan_fan]

We are already tanking. We are just doing a shit job of it. We are technically missing the playoffs for the second year in a row and yet we are barely in the lottery. Anyone trying to stay the course in any large part is confused.

Not only does this roster suck at almost every facet of basketball almost top-to-bottom, there aren't even any fun players to watch besides random games when Keldon, White, and Lonnie aren't being timid babies because they missed their first shot.

We need a HARD tank. Even if we don't draft a true franchise player in the next five years, at some point we would at least have a Jamal Murray, probably a couple of them. And then at that point we could at least be the barely-competing playoff team that some people seem to think we are now.

This team is NOT a playoff squad in any sense of the word and we are not a piece or two away. Maybe 4 people on this roster can dribble or pass a ball effectively when pressured. Of those 3 or 4, one is Derrick White, who will never play close to a full season.

We need massive, massive, massive change. Watching Demar, Rudy, and Patty chuck us into 40-43 wins with Lonnie and Dejounte having random good games does NOTHING for this franchise and on top of that, it is entirely unwatchable basketball.

We either get unwatchable, ineffective basketball with a chance at a high pick or unwatchable, ineffective basketball to the tune of MAYBE being an 8th seed at best.

Give me the shit team with a high lottery pick over the shit team trying to convince itself being 10th seed is a solid job done.

Just watching us trying to execute simple passes around the court early in the first quarter when there are no stakes is like pulling teeth. Most of the time the team looks like it has never played basketball at a high-school level before.

We need to shake things up as much as possible while retaining Keldon.

[BackHome]

History has shown that the only way we win a championship is to have a number 1 draft pick that is just a fact. I understand the thought process in not being like Cleveland, Orlando, Thunder, Wolves, and tanking every year and just being a shitty team and organization. But we have NEVER put a Champion team together but signing Elite talent away from other teams it has never happened and it will never happen.

You are correct they will never be another Timmy or David in our lifetime and probably most of us on this forum will probably be dead of old age before we ever reach the finals again. But I would rather tank now one or two years straight and hopefully we draft good enough where we can be the second to fourth playoff team, cause who knows we just might catch lighting in the bottle one year. But that is never going to happen being a sub 500 team in my eyes.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I would love to be the Wolves right now. Anthony Edwards would immediately be the best player on this team and he doesn't even know how to play yet.

[DeRozan m8]

Let's not be a treadmill team forever.

See ya ddr

[tbdog]

I agree with Chinook. If DDR was to leave, Spurs better have a contingency plan to replace that talent. Considering the free agent pool is poor, Spurs can use their cap space in tradeszknowing we don't have to match salary. Also, I would target Bridges from Suns or Dunan Robinson with the rest of our cap space.

[KobesAchilles]

I hope that next season it won’t be noticed (like it is this year) that our 3&D draft pick, the highest draft pick spent on a guard since Willie Anderson in 1988, can’t shoot 3s. One can only hope that he will eventually get a jumper

[exstatic]

I agree with Chinook. If DDR was to leave, Spurs better have a contingency plan to replace that talent. Considering the free agent pool is poor, Spurs can use their cap space in tradeszknowing we don't have to match salary. Also, I would target Bridges from Suns or Dunan Robinson with the rest of our cap space.

Trade for Harrison Barnes, 28, an ACTUAL combo forward, not a guard masquerading as such, and he provides 3 point shooting, and puts up 16.1p 6.6r 3.5a. You’d need to pick up 5.5p 0r and 3.5a in the aggregate.

[jjspur]

This season is all but over for us. What we do know right now is that nobody knows whats going to happen for next season. DeRozen, Millis , Rudy and others may be gone or they may be back (hopefully not all of them ) Pop may not be back, according to to some pounders he's getting too old and senile we just don't know --he's been through alot. We do know we will have the 11th - 15th pick in the draft most likely and we have to make the absolute best pick to help the team reasonably soon and not someone that's two years away from being two years away. Drafting Devin and Trey were good choices. Not home runs but definitely two doubles.

We know that the team should have a decent amount of cap space so lets sign some decent role players (no all stars available) and play our brains out. No I don't think we'll be championship contenders next year, but with some decent signings (no more Gasol type signings) and a little bit of luck in the draft we can do better than the last two years and keep moving forward.

I'm a realist so I know small steps are more likely than big leaps. Again nobody knows the future but we can sure do things to point ourselves in the right direction to get us to a better future, one that doesn't include us landing in the lottery year after year.

[Down Under]

It's hard to say, because we don't know what a spread floor with White, Johnson & Murray looks like. Swapping DD with Vassell at the 3 would likely give us a top 5 defense, but limited shot creation. Launching 40 3's per game probably wouldn't be the worst thing with that lineup.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

A lot of folks on here are going to miss Demar. Lmao.

he definitely doesn’t fit the current way this team is constructed but the folks on here trying to say he is a bad player is really being asinine in my opinion. He definitely is flawed but the guy is a good player and really good at what he does. We have no player who finishes as well as he does at the hoop, creates offense for themselves or others as well as he does and that is going to be missed if he leaves.

I’m not advocating for him to stay on a big deal but I will say that a lot of folks on here are delusional if they think this team is going to be better(barring a major off season signing of draft steal) without Demar next season.

[PhantomDashCam]

I hope that next season it won’t be noticed (like it is this year) that our 3&D draft pick, the highest draft pick spent on a guard since Willie Anderson in 1988, can’t shoot 3s. One can only hope that he will eventually get a jumper

Do you really believe that Vassell can't shoot?

His shooting splits on 3s per month:

Dec: 43%, Jan: 39%, Feb: 40%, March: 44% then dipping to 32% in April and 21% in May. He shot 35% from 3 for the season and ended it mired in a shooting slump.

I put this down more to fatigue, inconsistent usage, play etc. That all sounds eerily similar to a rookie wall.

[daslicer]

A lot of folks on here are going to miss Demar. Lmao.

he definitely doesn’t fit the current way this team is constructed but the folks on here trying to say he is a bad player is really being asinine in my opinion. He definitely is flawed but the guy is a good player and really good at what he does. We have no player who finishes as well as he does at the hoop, creates offense for themselves or others as well as he does and that is going to be missed if he leaves.

I’m not advocating for him to stay on a big deal but I will say that a lot of folks on here are delusional if they think this team is going to be better(barring a major off season signing of draft steal) without Demar next season.

He would be good on a title team as a third option which would have been the spurs several years ago when they had Kawhi/LMA. This team will be an even worse team without him but I won't miss him. It was a waste of time to trade for him few years ago. Spurs delayed the rebuild for a few years by acquiring him.

[daslicer]

Do you really believe that Vassell can't shoot?

His shooting splits on 3s per month:

Dec: 43%, Jan: 39%, Feb: 40%, March: 44% then dipping to 32% in April and 21% in May. He shot 35% from 3 for the season and ended it mired in a shooting slump.

I put this down more to fatigue, inconsistent usage, play etc. That all sounds eerily similar to a rookie wall.

Factor in Covid having an effect. I have heard from Celtic fans that they felt Covid stunted Tatum for a period of time this year and it took him a while to get his mojo back.

[KaiRMD1]

This is our destiny. The Spurs have been on top for a number of years. It's time we learn what every team deals with and that's being a failing lottery team. Eventually, the Spurs will return back to the promise land

[Sugus]

History has shown that the only way we win a championship is to have a number 1 draft pick that is just a fact. I understand the thought process in not being like Cleveland, Orlando, Thunder, Wolves, and tanking every year and just being a shitty team and organization. But we have NEVER put a Champion team together but signing Elite talent away from other teams it has never happened and it will never happen.

You cannot ascertain that something can't happen in the future because it hasn't happened in the past. Thankfully, that's not how life works. A lot of championship teams haven't had a #1 pick leading the horses - and moreover, the better constant for predicting championship-level core pieces is always a good drafting ability by a given FO, moreso than drafting position. That's how the Kangz stay Kangz, despite a decade and a half of top picks, whilst teams with far less lottery resources manage to consistently put together competitive (championship or otherwise, it's just luck at that point) teams - see Portland, Indiana, Miami.


You are correct they will never be another Timmy or David in our lifetime and probably most of us on this forum will probably be dead of old age before we ever reach the finals again. But I would rather tank now one or two years straight and hopefully we draft good enough where we can be the second to fourth playoff team, cause who knows we just might catch lighting in the bottle one year. But that is never going to happen being a sub 500 team in my eyes.

Ehh, I'm not that pessimistic at all regarding our chances to get back to the top. My hot take is the Spurs will find themselves in a WCF within the next 5 years. Again, it's all about the teams making the most with less, and not those loaded with resources necessarily, and the Spurs FO, for all their misgivings, are still above-average in numerous departments including drafting, and have a lot of options they could go for in the next few years. And before SpursTalk Expert GMs™ go on about how they're gonna fuck everything up, remember y'all were also swearing up and down that we'd be re-signing Forbes and Beli. That didn't happen... And there's no reason the Spurs can't manage to draft and put together a solid team in a couple years' time.

As for being a sub-500 team, of course that ain't gonna get us a ring. But I don't really see the Spurs trotting out the same team next season (with DD being a FA, it isn't even entirely up to them), so the state of the team currently is of little interest to predict how the next few years are gonna pan out. We have a core of players that could perfectly compliment a rising star... And it's fine if you wanna call me a homer for this, but I much rather trust the Spurs find it at whichever pick in the draft they get, than some other team like Sacramento or Orlando with a top pick.

[timtonymanu]

Spurs will be worse without Demar since he's the closest they have to a "star." But you don't reward that with a max contract when he plays 90's style basketball and barely keeps this team at a below .500 record. Just delaying the inevitable. Let the young guys take his role and even though it's potential to be ugly, at least we know which players have it and which don't. Quit being cucks and realize the team is better off without Demar.

[baseline bum]

Wow Spurs would be giving up a chance to be a 35 win team by letting DeRozan walk.

[baseline bum]

Too bad we don't have a Virginia Squires to raid like 48 years ago.

[timtonymanu]

Wow Spurs would be giving up a chance to be a 35 win team by letting DeRozan walk.

30 million a year for a 35+ win team, no thanks. But some people scoff that at a hard tank lol.

[The Truth #6]

My gripe is stylistic, because the path to building a contender is tortuous and not easy to figure out. Basically, my eyes are bleeding from watching the Spurs play such a selfish brand of basketball all season long. The fourth quarter of today’s game in contrast: yeah we lost, but there was a joy to the game. I’m not saying Tre Jones, Dieng, and Diop are our future, but I’d rather lose gracefully playing that way (ideally with defense thrown in to keep things close) then continue with the style we saw this year led by our veterans.

[The Truth #6]

Trade for Harrison Barnes, 28, an ACTUAL combo forward, not a guard masquerading as such, and he provides 3 point shooting, and puts up 16.1p 6.6r 3.5a. You’d need to pick up 5.5p 0r and 3.5a in the aggregate.

That’s the best idea I’ve heard yet for the short term.

[exstatic]

That’s the best idea I’ve heard yet for the short term.

His contract is also up in 2023, the next FA window. He shoots about 38/39% from beyond the arc, and his TS% was 62 last year.

Other targets to hold our cap room:

Al Horford, another shooter from beyond the arc. You could play him with Jakob when needed. Also expires in 2023. Both of his PM scores, O and D have been positive every year since his rookie season.

Wiggins, another combo forward. He’s the most expensive of the bunch, and the least good fit. I’d need something good from GS to eat that $65M. At least his shooting improved.

[baseline bum]

A lot of folks on here are going to miss Demar. Lmao.

he definitely doesn’t fit the current way this team is constructed but the folks on here trying to say he is a bad player is really being asinine in my opinion. He definitely is flawed but the guy is a good player and really good at what he does. We have no player who finishes as well as he does at the hoop, creates offense for themselves or others as well as he does and that is going to be missed if he leaves.

I’m not advocating for him to stay on a big deal but I will say that a lot of folks on here are delusional if they think this team is going to be better(barring a major off season signing of draft steal) without Demar next season.

I'm expecting they'll be worse with or without DeRozan next year.

[KobesAchilles]

Do you really believe that Vassell can't shoot?

His shooting splits on 3s per month:

Dec: 43%, Jan: 39%, Feb: 40%, March: 44% then dipping to 32% in April and 21% in May. He shot 35% from 3 for the season and ended it mired in a shooting slump.

I put this down more to fatigue, inconsistent usage, play etc. That all sounds eerily similar to a rookie wall.

It could be a rookie wall. But it could also be that in the beginning he hardly played and got wide ass open looks against end of bench scrubs and made them at a good clip. Then he faced harder competition, got more minutes and people actually closed out on him instead of leaving him open. When we started him he went like 0-7 on 3s and that’s not fatigue but better competition. The book may have been out on him that a hard close out fucks his shot over.

But 21% in May (combined with April) is more than a slump. That’s Westbrick status. He has lost all confidence in his 3 point shot

[tim_duncan_fan]

It could be a rookie wall. But it could also be that in the beginning he hardly played and got wide ass open looks against end of bench scrubs and made them at a good clip. Then he faced harder competition, got more minutes and people actually closed out on him instead of leaving him open. When we started him he went like 0-7 on 3s and that’s not fatigue but better competition. The book may have been out on him that a hard close out fucks his shot over.

But 21% in May (combined with April) is more than a slump. That’s Westbrick status. He has lost all confidence in his 3 point shot

He's missed some he should have made, but he has also taken some shots off some janky passes from less-than-graceful-with-the-ball teammates. I think part of his percentage is a symptom of the relative inability of the team to pass a basketball that I mentioned earlier.

The team is functionally retarded on offense (and defense). That's going to impact a rookie spot-up shooter.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I'm expecting they'll be worse with or without DeRozan next year.


it depends on what they do with the players around Demar if he is kept. We actually get some real 3&D players the team would be better for sure.

we all (well some of us on here) know for a fact that the team will be worse without Demar though.

[exstatic]

it depends on what they do with the players around Demar if he is kept. We actually get some real 3&D players the team would be better for sure.

we all (well some of us on here) know for a fact that the team will be worse without Demar though.

Worse, like beating the crap out of Phoenix a couple of weeks ago? Their announcers even said they wished he were playing, because they know how to defend him.

The offense is slow and predictable when run through DD. That is all.

[Dejounte]

It could be a rookie wall. But it could also be that in the beginning he hardly played and got wide ass open looks against end of bench scrubs and made them at a good clip. Then he faced harder competition, got more minutes and people actually closed out on him instead of leaving him open. When we started him he went like 0-7 on 3s and that’s not fatigue but better competition. The book may have been out on him that a hard close out fucks his shot over.

But 21% in May (combined with April) is more than a slump. That’s Westbrick status. He has lost all confidence in his 3 point shot

Against end of the bench scrubs? Have you watched a single game this season? I say this because Vassell was getting regular minutes early on in the season. Or is Spurstalk just a website you go to while you're having your tea?

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

He would be good on a title team as a third option which would have been the spurs several years ago when they had Kawhi/LMA. This team will be an even worse team without him but I won't miss him. It was a waste of time to trade for him few years ago. Spurs delayed the rebuild for a few years by acquiring him.


at least you’re being realistic in your thoughts. Some folks on here actually blame everything on Demar and Pop when the overall roster of the team is very flawed.

this team needs shooting and defenders badly and if all the vets leave we’re gonna be really, really bad and will then need actual shot creators and makers to go along with the other things we are already missing. honestly bottoming out isn’t a bad thing because we do need young players with all around and not singular talent and the best way to get young players like that on good contracts is through the draft.

i just feel a lot of folks don’t truly understand how bad this team is and will be without our veteran players and Pop. some believe that the team getting a top 5 pick will magically make us better, when that isn’t necessarily the case. I will root for the team regardless but I’m sure a lot of these folks will jump ship when we truly are a bottom 4 team throughout the league.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Worse, like beating the crap out of Phoenix a couple of weeks ago? Their announcers even said they wished he were playing, because they know how to defend him.

The offense is slow and predictable when run through DD. That is all.

i hope you don’t truly believe what you just posted. Lmao

the Suns announcers said what they did because the Suns coaching staff didn’t have an extensive scouting report on the Spurs who were getting playing time in that game. It wasn’t an indictment on Demar’s game what so ever. Lmao.

I’m not saying Demar is a great player or if we should give him a huge contract at the end of this season. I’m just pointing out the delusional attitude of some of the fan base on this site. Demar for all his flaws is the least of our problems. He has actually been a good player for this team but the roster as a whole isn’t that good and if he (along with the other veteran players) does walk a lot of folks are going to realize it even more.

[duncan2k5]

Wow... Ppl are seriously considering signing a 32 year old DeMar to another contract? The guy who can't even lead us to the playoffs in a weakened west for 2 str8 years? The guy who has shown his ENTIRE career that he can't be depended on? The guy who has a game where he doesn't actually make ppl around him better because he is only effective WITH the ball in his hand, so he essentially turns everyone he plays with into spot up shooters? He sucks the development time from young players with that style because no one else can grow their game at a significant pace while playing with him...we really gonna do this again? Throughout NBA history there have been many teams without a star that became good to great teams...there have also been teams that got better by giving away their "star" only to find out that a player once looked over as a roleplayer had star potential once they have the opportunity...get him the fuck outta here

[duncan2k5]

If he can't even lead us to the playoffs, what's the point in keeping him? In hopes that the team gets better by time he is 35? He couldn't even do good in the playoffs in a trash ass east

[KobesAchilles]

Against end of the bench scrubs? Have you watched a single game this season? I say this because Vassell was getting regular minutes early on in the season. Or is Spurstalk just a website you go to while you're having your tea?
Dude played 15 minutes or less in 7 outta his first 10 games. But oh well technically that is getting "consistent" minutes. Maybe he never recovered from getting that Covid? Who knows. But he has played like dogshit regardless

[james evans]

DDR deserves to play on a team whose head coach is not senile and whose players take inconsistency to a new level.
He had that and as soon as he was traded, they won a title.

[rascal]

Only Philly and it's after the mother of all tanks, which led to flattening the odds. People who act like the Spurs could be contenders after one or two top 5 picks are delusional.

How about Phoenix. They built that team with a few tank seasons.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

How about Phoenix. They built that team with a few tank seasons.

A good example - 10 years of missing the playoffs, tanking, bad draft picks and terrible to watch.

Let's see how they fare against Lakers before calling them a contender. A cute regular season team though, sure.

[timtonymanu]

Good riddance, Demar. Close this thread.

[baseline bum]

A good example - 10 years of missing the playoffs, tanking, bad draft picks and terrible to watch.

Let's see how they fare against Lakers before calling them a contender. A cute regular season team though, sure.

They didn't tank for ten years. They were a treadmill team half that time just like the DePression Spurs.

[slick'81]

:lmao These threads

[Atl Spur]

DDR is devoid of that champions gene/killer instinct.

[Atl Spur]

Big off season.....hopefully we right the damn ship!

[jjspur]

DeRozen needed to have a really good offensive game for the spurs to win. He got some points but mostly empty points, typical playoff game for him. He'll be somewhere else next year. Anyone for trading or drafting a shooting guard? Rudy had a decent last game though, at least you know he really tried.

[8sy21vd]

Derozan and the Spurs are like a bad marriage. The longer it goes, the more toxic the relationship. The Spurs' really problem is their FO decision making. If we don't get new people in place with an actual winning strategy in today's NBA, we're going to become the Clippers of the 90s. I don't consider 32-39 and 33-40 staying 'competitive'.

[LCM]

Derozan and the Spurs are like a bad marriage. The longer it goes, the more toxic the relationship. The Spurs' really problem is their FO decision making. If we don't get new people in place with an actual winning strategy in today's NBA, we're going to become the Clippers of the 90s. I don't consider 32-39 and 33-40 staying 'competitive'.

So agree with you on this! In the 44 year history of the Spurs in the NBA, prior to these past 2 seasons, the Spurs made the playoffs 40 times!!!. 3 of the years they missed, 2 were when they drafted David Robinson and Sean Elliott, and waited on David to complete his service time, and 1996-7 season before drafting TD. That's competitive!!! This garbage that has been trucked out for 2 seasons disgraces what those other teams accomplished in truly being competitive and earning a playoff spot!!

[KingKev]

Hopefully that put a nail in the DDR era. This thread should age well ��