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rankingtear
05-19-2021, 05:30 AM
GUARD ORIENTED
WING ORIENTED
BIGMAN ORIENTED



PNR BALLHANDLER
ISO
SPOT UP
OFF SCREEN
TRANSITION
HANDOFF
PNR ROLLMAN
CUT
PUTBACK
POST UP


Demar Derozan
84
96
50
60
63
78

5
42
88


Dejounte Murray
50
31
38

46
15

70
45



Derrick White
25
88
72
84
50
86

60




Patty Mills
52
75
85
94
31
28
66
6




Keldon Johnson
52
28
45
30
60
81
10
56
63



Lonnie Walker
18
34
64
16
42
59

14




Devin Vassell
75
-
40

41
68

70
31



Rudy Gay
65
48
42
88
61
87
14
48
17
52


Drew Eubanks

-
36

27

38
83
24
74


Jakob Poeltl

-
9

88

48
58
50
16



https://fansided.com/2017/09/08/nylon-calculus-understanding-synergy-play-type-data/

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/ball-handler/#!?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*SAS&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=PLAYER_NAME&dir=-1

Fireball
05-19-2021, 06:20 AM
cool ... what are the main outcomes?

tbdog
05-19-2021, 06:21 AM
Interesting that Vassell is so high on pnr. And Derrick White is so high on Iso's

PrimeMinister
05-19-2021, 09:22 AM
Lonnie getting a lot of his shots on spot ups as we know but what is interesting to see quantified is his cuts figure. Needs to be more active off ball in looking for opportunities to flash to the hoop. Surprising to me to see Derrick and dejounte both so high on cutting, I wonder if there’s action getting into sets that registers as a cut on synergy.

Patty interestingly enough as we’ve seen is often used as a screener on the 3 point line, often just as a decoy to get himself open for 3.

Keldon next year I want to see pick his match ups and try to put his back to the basket. He’s a bully, he’s tenacious in the paint, and usually in the restricted area he’s too much for most wings and forwards to handle. He’s cutting and finding himself in good spots more than most, but a little post up could be another wrinkle in his game when the driving lanes aren’t open.

you also see Devin Vassell is not being groomed as a spot up shooter. Tasked to handle the ball frequently, and when he doesn’t have the ball he is super heady in finding the right opportunity to get himself open with a cut. I’ve been impressed with his ability to make reads in the open court off a defensive rebound and often looks to make a long outlet pass if possible. His IQ and awareness give him a lot of interesting upside as a passer. Numbers here definitely support conclusions a lot of us have made watching the games.

More than anyone I think Lonnie Walker will benefit with a clearly defined role. He’s been made to be a spot up shooter for a lot of this season but doesn’t particularly move without the ball well or read defenses. He’s low on the pecking order as a ball handler but much of his potential is derived from his down hill athleticism and pull up game. He needs to make mistakes as a ball handler and learn through them. He needs consistent touches to do so- and with next year being his last before RFA I expect the roster opens up for him a bit and he either sinks or swims.

SAGirl
05-19-2021, 02:35 PM
GUARD ORIENTED
WING ORIENTED
BIGMAN ORIENTED



PNR BALLHANDLER
ISO
SPOT UP
OFF SCREEN
TRANSITION
HANDOFF
PNR ROLLMAN
CUT
PUTBACK
POST UP


Demar Derozan
84
96
50
60
63
78

5
42
88


Dejounte Murray
50
31
38

46
15

70
45



Derrick White
25
88
72
84
50
86

60




Patty Mills
52
75
85
94
31
28
66
6




Keldon Johnson
52
28
45
30
60
81
10
56
63



Lonnie Walker
18
34
64
16
42
59

14




Devin Vassell
75
-
40

41
68

70
31



Rudy Gay
65
48
42
88
61
87
14
48
17
52


Drew Eubanks

-
36

27

38
83
24
74


Jakob Poeltl

-
9

88

48
58
50
16



https://fansided.com/2017/09/08/nylon-calculus-understanding-synergy-play-type-data/

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/ball-handler/#!?CF=TEAM_ABBREVIATION*E*SAS&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&sort=PLAYER_NAME&dir=-1
Dejounte Murray with a below average (or average at best) offensive game. :oops

SAGirl
05-19-2021, 02:36 PM
Interesting that Vassell is so high on pnr. And Derrick White is so high on Iso's
Probably a result of very small sample sizes on those play types, respectively.

Seventyniner
05-19-2021, 02:57 PM
Ones that stood out to me are White being so bad as PnR ballhandler and Poeltl not being above average as PnR rollman. Those are certainly linked together, and while I thought Poeltl's low number could be because White missed so much time, White's PnR ballhandler number shows that he might have been dragging down Poeltl's PnR rollman number, not vice versa.