GTFO DeRozan

[dbestpro]

Miami cannot sign and trade both DDR and Lowry. They resigned Dragic with the intention of sending him in a sign and trade along with picks to Toronto. The other free agents are Duncan Robinson and Nunn. Not enough to trade and sign for DDR nor is it something the Spurs want. What could be looked at is Poetl going back to Toronto along with Murray and more from Miami that could allow the 30mil per year Siakam to go to the Spurs. Miami gets what it wants in Lowry and DDR and Toronto gets out from under Sialam's salary which is what they want to do along with some decent additions and draft picks.

[baseline bum]

I think all the happy talk came crashing down once the Westbrick trade happened. And the Clipper path to ring looks bad now, so that has to be out too.

Looks at the rest of the options:

- The Knicks might talk themselves into it, but it feels like they have a competent FO now so dont bank on it.

- the Miami thing looks bleak since they’re essentially also relying on a full MLE offer.

- Maybe Dallas? But they have to decide what to do with Hardaway first. That would eat into their space, but they at least could have more than the MLE to use.

- My dark horse and preferred option is Washington as a running mate for Beal, but we have no idea where Beal’s head truly is.

And of course, I don’t yet rule out the Spurs doing something dumb and offering him and extension. I pray not, but I don’t think we know for sure yet. Barf.

DeRozan meant he'd take $20 million a season to play on the Lakers, not $10 million a season. :lol

[Uriel]

How would Miami acquire DeRozan? Sign and trade? Who would they give us for him?

[slick'81]

How would Miami acquire DeRozan? Sign and trade? Who would they give us for him?


Theyre going to s&t with tor. They will give us nothing

[BackHome]

If we not getting young player or draft players I would rather just let him walk - We in a rebuild mode we are not close to a winning team

[PhantomDashCam]

https://twitter.com/samfolkk/status/1422046340708765696?s=20

[timvp]

Now every Spurs fan should realize what an absolute blessing 1989 through 2019 was from a sports perspective.

No doubt. To think the DeRozan years would be considered a successful era for teams like the Timberwolves.

[CGD]

DeRozan meant he'd take $20 million a season to play on the Lakers, not $10 million a season. :lol

Yeah. I never thought the idea of him taking the MLE was ever a real possibility. Plus, im sure he knows that that once you take that lower amount of money, it's really hard to get back to a higher level.

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/ViceCityAlerts/status/1422197662724632581

[LeBowen]

I swear that most of today's so called reporters are completely braindead.

Demar is currently on 27 million per year.
His next max would start at what, like 30 million?

Taking a paycut means that he'd be willing to take maybe 20ish per year to play on a contender. I'd say 80 to 100 over 4 years.
Not that he'd fucking accept MLE or whatever they think he'd accept.


With that being said, can he go already? If we can't get a good S&T, just let him walk.

[CGD]

I swear that most of today's so called reporters are completely braindead.

Demar is currently on 27 million per year.
His next max would start at what, like 30 million?

Taking a paycut means that he'd be willing to take maybe 20ish per year to play on a contender. I'd say 80 to 100 over 4 years.
Not that he'd fucking accept MLE or whatever they think he'd accept.


With that being said, can he go already? If we can't get a good S&T, just let him walk.

I don’t know man. You are what the market says you are, and clearly, here in the NBA of 2021, there dont seem to be teams lining up to pay top dollar for a two point specialist with a mediocre playoff track record.

He may well be worth $15M now.

[cd98]

I can't see the Spurs signing him to anything more than a two year deal below a max number.

[spurs1990]

I can't see the Spurs signing him to anything more than a two year deal below a max number.

Even that doesn't add up with the Primo pick. DeRozan would take all the growth opportunities for the under 27 group. He's just got no place on the roster aside from the Spurs being good guys and giving him a contact he can't find anywhere else.

[mo7888]

I think DDR ends up signing with NY...we get nothing back but we do get to move in a new direction...

[Ocotillo]

I was going to post yesterday but seeing the tweet above about him taking the MLE it is a real slap in the face to him that the media speculation has Lowry getting a bigger deal and Derozan taking the MLE. DD is younger than Lowry, you would think if anyone takes the MLE it would be the older guy.

[cd98]

I think DDR will look to get a pay day max. If he doesn't get that from a team with cap space (ahem Knicks), then he will revisit the Spurs on a two year deal at above the MLE with a player option for next year. If he can't get what he wants from the Spurs, then I think he'd consider a mid-level on a contender, but that's worst case scenario. I mean, best case for him is to sign with the Knicks for the most money possible, and then demand a trade midyear and try and get to a contender. I don't think he can do that at a high salary, but that's pretty much the formula players take now days.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

If the spurs resign _eRozan cause no other team would sign him I’d quit being a fan on the spot till Brian Wright is gone. Seriously there’s not one team in the nba Derozan makes better. The spurs will have a better record without him barring injuries .

[slick'81]

I was going to post yesterday but seeing the tweet above about him taking the MLE it is a real slap in the face to him that the media speculation has Lowry getting a bigger deal and Derozan taking the MLE. DD is younger than Lowry, you would think if anyone takes the MLE it would be the older guy.


Lowry is probably widely considered the better player. Well see how it olys out in fa though

what a sloow start to fa

[cd98]

If the spurs resign _eRozan cause no other team would sign him I’d quit being a fan on the spot till Brian Wright is gone. Seriously there’s not one team in the nba Derozan makes better. The spurs will have a better record without him barring injuries .

See, I completely disagree. DeRozan is a high quality NBA player. He could really improve some teams. His problem is not if he has skills, it's that the teams in win-now mode don't have money to sign him and the teams that have cap space are terrible and are not looking to add veteran players, but rather draft assets. NYC is one of the few teams that would check the box for him on getting paid and he would make them better. I think they are the favorites to land him. I don't get why the hate. He's one of the best creators off the dribble in the NBA and he is a great mid range scorer that can get to the basket, get to the line, and get a good shot and the end of the shot clock. He's not a scrub. He's just the 2nd or 3rd best player on a championship team, not a first. You could plug a lot of players perceived as better into his spot on the Spurs, and we still wouldn't make the playoffs.

[DPG21920]

See, I completely disagree. DeRozan is a high quality NBA player. He could really improve some teams. His problem is not if he has skills, it's that the teams in win-now mode don't have money to sign him and the teams that have cap space are terrible and are not looking to add veteran players, but rather draft assets. NYC is one of the few teams that would check the box for him on getting paid and he would make them better. I think they are the favorites to land him. I don't get why the hate. He's one of the best creators off the dribble in the NBA and he is a great mid range scorer that can get to the basket, get to the line, and get a good shot and the end of the shot clock. He's not a scrub. He's just the 2nd or 3rd best player on a championship team, not a first. You could plug a lot of players perceived as better into his spot on the Spurs, and we still wouldn't make the playoffs.

If the win now teams wanted him it would be pretty easy for them to obtain him in a S&T though…if you want to win and you can get a DDR without having cap space?

It’s not like stars are just available all the time to choose from if you want; he’s available for sure, you don’t have cap space but want win - what are they waiting for?

[slick'81]

If the win now teams wanted him it would be pretty easy for them to obtain him in a S&T though…if you want to win and you can get a DDR without having cap space?

It’s not like stars are just available all the time to choose from if you want; he’s available for sure, you don’t have cap space but want win - what are they waiting for?


Spurs really need a s&t for derozan. God hopefully they get something

[DPG21920]

Spurs really need a s&t for derozan. God hopefully they get something

It’s all contextual for me. Ive been hoping and pushing for them to get something, but it’s not just for the sake of it; it’s because I dont like this FA class and Id rather get draft picks than these players.

But if no one wants DDR what can they do? And I dont want them to get crapped on; has to make sense for SA obviously but bar shouldn’t be that high.

[baseline bum]

Spurs really need a s&t for derozan. God hopefully they get something

All they're going to get offered is crap. I'm just thankful Kuzma is out of the mix. Let DeRozan walk.

[spurs1990]

1422198150786342921
scenario may happen with the Westbrook trade blocking off LA as DeRozan new team and him ending up back here.

Prepare for the worst

[The Truth #6]

He has to go. Did they really build around him with 3/D players to maximize his role? Of course not. Do I want to explore that? Hell, no. Too late. Move on.

[baseline bum]

1422198150786342921
scenario may happen with the Westbrook trade blocking off LA as DeRozan new team and him ending up back here.

Prepare for the worst

I'm expecting DePression and Mills both back on big money deals

[Floyd Pacquiao]

See, I completely disagree. DeRozan is a high quality NBA player. He could really improve some teams. His problem is not if he has skills, it's that the teams in win-now mode don't have money to sign him and the teams that have cap space are terrible and are not looking to add veteran players, but rather draft assets. NYC is one of the few teams that would check the box for him on getting paid and he would make them better. I think they are the favorites to land him. I don't get why the hate. He's one of the best creators off the dribble in the NBA and he is a great mid range scorer that can get to the basket, get to the line, and get a good shot and the end of the shot clock. He's not a scrub. He's just the 2nd or 3rd best player on a championship team, not a first. You could plug a lot of players perceived as better into his spot on the Spurs, and we still wouldn't make the playoffs.
The style of basketball he plays is losing basketball. He doesn’t shoot 3s, play D or hustle. He’s ball dominant and without the ball he’s completely useless.

[spurs1990]

I'm expecting DePression and Mills both back on big money deals

Sadly I could see this be the case if DeRozan accepts $20-25m annually from SA. And if this happens there will be no player who'll be more hated by his fan base than DeRozan on ST. Nuclear level. I see no angle of improvement in his game if he continues here.

[KingKev]

I'm expecting DePression and Mills both back on big money deals

Even more worrisome is we might get them paid via sign and trade to a competitor while taking back terrible assets.

[baseline bum]

Sadly I could see this be the case if DeRozan accepts $20-25m annually from SA. And if this happens there will be no player who'll be more hated by his fan base than DeRozan on ST. Nuclear level. I see no angle of improvement in his game if he continues here.

Best thing about making a max offer sheet to Collins is they'd have to renounce DePression to do it. No way Atlanta doesn't match but at least signing Collins to the sheet gets them that.

[Chinook]

Best thing about making a max offer sheet to Collins is they'd have to renounce DePression to do it. No way Atlanta doesn't match but at least signing Collins to the sheet gets them that.

The Spurs could easily sign both Collins and DeRozan.

[cd98]

Dallas may make a play on DDR, but they have to wait and see what Kawhi does first.

[baseline bum]

The Spurs could easily sign both Collins and DeRozan.

Jeez way to kill my dreams for this offseason. Shit, you're right, they could sign him for $26 million or so and still make a max offer to Collins without dumping anyone.

[poopbox]

I just can't imagine Derozan signing back to the spurs. He had to move to "power forward" just to get on the floor. Imagine what happens if we sign an actual stretch 4. Where would he play ? I know our front office has been embarrassing the last few years but even THEY can't fuck this up right ? :cry

[daslicer]

I just can't imagine Derozan signing back to the spurs. He had to move to "power forward" just to get on the floor. Imagine what happens if we sign an actual stretch 4. Where would he play ? I know our front office has been embarrassing the last few years but even THEY can't fuck this up right ? :cry

I get a bad feeling he will be back. The Lakers and Heat have now backed off of ever getting him. It really comes down now to the Knicks getting him. Gotta hope the Knicks will sign him.

[baseline bum]

I get a bad feeling he will be back. The Lakers and Heat have now backed off of ever getting him. It really comes down now to the Knicks getting him. Gotta hope the Knicks will sign him.

Well the Knicks have huge capspace and are desperate to sign someone. They don't really have many options other than DePression once Leonard re-signs in LA. So I hold out hope.

[Ocotillo]

Didn't Chris Paul opt out? Haven't heard anything about who might be interested other than Phoenix still?

[slick'81]

Didn't Chris Paul opt out? Haven't heard anything about who might be interested other than Phoenix still?

Phoenix is working on an extension but its still early

[pad300]

Phoenix is working on an extension but its still early

I saw an article that said 3 years/$90 million was agreed.

[cd98]

I saw an article that said 3 years/$90 million was agreed.

Man, Paul is a good player, but I can't help but think that by that third year, it will be a disaster. They probably will have less money on that third year so they can trade him.

[baseline bum]

He's really coming back, isn't he? :pctoss

[CGD]

He's really coming back, isn't he? :pctoss

I hope not. This is the move I’m most eager/nervous about.

Come on Washington with that “mutual interest”!!

[slick'81]

He's really coming back, isn't he? :pctoss

running out of options beyond the mle. Spurs will resign him ,and run it back for the 10th seed

[slick'81]

https://i0.wp.com/nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/12/demar-derozan-home-invasion.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&ssl=1

[cd98]

DeRozen going to Chicago, just working on numbers.

[baseline bum]

DeRozen going to Chicago, just working on numbers.

Source?

[cd98]

My mistake. Read a bad report. I think he's still out there.

[spurs1990]

This is getting close with the large cap teams giving out contracts. Definitely worried but hoping there's some team who has room.

Guess we'll have to edit this thread title if our franchise player comes back to SA

[CGD]

Go to Miami for the full MLE DeMar!!

[Fusternino]

Might just need to sign with the Knicks because everyone (Spurs too) are running out of space quick.

[spurs1990]

Pg_ Murray
Sg _ White
Sf _ McDermott
Pf _ Johnson
C_ poetle

Pg _ Jones
Sg _ Walker
Sf _ vassell
Pf _ Collins
C - Eubanks

Primo
Somanich
Wieskamp

I don't see any room for DeRozan do y'All?

[Marcus Bryant]

https://youtu.be/2WKvvJxn7fM
And take Brian Wrong with you

Come on man, not even posted in this?

[poopbox]

Think he is a candidate for a Lauri S&T if we don't get Collins

[onechance87]

Suprised we havent heard nothing on demar

[slick'81]

Suprised we havent heard nothing on demar


Im not. Nobody is rushing to overpay that bum

[offset formation]

If I was a betting man, I'd say that the Spurs are waiting on DeRozan to decide if he wants to take less elsewhere. My guess is he ultimately won't. Spurs will offer the max. DeRozan re-signs.

If DeRozan chooses to take a hit to his bank account and evidently his pride just to go elsewhere and take a huge payout, my guess is then we throw an offer sheet at Collins or Lauri.

Read a different way, we are getting sloppy seconds at best and are going to end up getting another guy a max.

Not sure if this is a sign of the future or just a sign of the team without a clear star. Either way, how the times have changed. And how the front office has gotten played.

[offset formation]

Pg_ Murray
Sg _ White
Sf _ McDermott
Pf _ Johnson
C_ poetle

Pg _ Jones
Sg _ Walker
Sf _ vassell
Pf _ Collins
C - Eubanks

Primo
Somanich
Wieskamp

I don't see any room for DeRozan do y'All?

Collins won't play next year most likely and McDermott will be abench guy most likely. Samanic, one way or another, will get run next year. it's the Spurs last chance to get a read on him. as it is I'm not sure what he's able to do as a second teamer with that lineup.

[spurs1990]

Spurs will offer the max. DeRozan re-signs.


Dear God you can't possibly be serious Offset. This would be the worst move the team would make in my 20 years as a fan. Devastating

[slick'81]

Dear God you can't possibly be serious Offset. This would be the worst move the team would make in my 20 years as a fan. Devastating


Assuming derozan even wanted to be here spurs would pay him. They would do right by him. Its their MO,its what they do. Spurs are waiting for derozan to decide what he wants ,and maybe studying atl's situation with jc

[offset formation]

Dear God you can't possibly be serious Offset. This would be the worst move the team would make in my 20 years as a fan. Devastating

Have you been paying attention lately? Assume the worst Holmes. If it doesn't happen consider yourself relieved in advance because you were expecting the worst. You're welcome.

[onechance87]

Im not. Nobody is rushing to overpay that bum

well...hope we dont overpay either if he decides to return

[baseline bum]

If I was a betting man, I'd say that the Spurs are waiting on DeRozan to decide if he wants to take less elsewhere. My guess is he ultimately won't. Spurs will offer the max. DeRozan re-signs.

If DeRozan chooses to take a hit to his bank account and evidently his pride just to go elsewhere and take a huge payout, my guess is then we throw an offer sheet at Collins or Lauri.

Read a different way, we are getting sloppy seconds at best and are going to end up getting another guy a max.

Not sure if this is a sign of the future or just a sign of the team without a clear star. Either way, how the times have changed. And how the front office has gotten played.

Spurs can't offer max. Best they can do is $28 million base salary, eg $1 million above what he opted out of. Which is my expectation for what will happen, as now there are only four teams that could outright sign DeRozan for at least the $20 million base salary he has been rumored to want:

1. OKC (yeah not happening)
2. Charlotte (Jordan is an idiot so maybe)
3. Cleveland (don't see that)
4. Memphis (only real chance I see)

DeRozan sees the market is now dry for him and he's staying because here is where he'll get paid.

[slick'81]

Spurs can't offer max. Best they can do is $28 million base salary, eg $1 million above what he opted out of. Which is my expectation for what will happen, as now there are only four teams that could outright sign DeRozan for at least the $20 million base salary he has been rumored to want:

1. OKC (yeah not happening)
2. Charlotte (Jordan is an idiot so maybe)
3. Cleveland (don't see that)
4. Memphis (only real chance I see)

DeRozan sees the market is now dry for him and he's staying because here is where he'll get paid.


Pretty easy to figure out,tbh

[offset formation]

Spurs can't offer max. Best they can do is $28 million base salary, eg $1 million above what he opted out of. Which is my expectation for what will happen, as now there are only four teams that could outright sign DeRozan for at least the $20 million base salary he has been rumored to want:

1. OKC (yeah not happening)
2. Charlotte (Jordan is an idiot so maybe)
3. Cleveland (don't see that)
4. Memphis (only real chance I see)

DeRozan sees the market is now dry for him and he's staying because here is where he'll get paid.

Yes thanks for the clarification. I meant remaining dollars only used max for Collins -- used incorrect term. For DeRozan not a max but nonetheless much higher than he seems to be getting elsewhere.

[Payote75]

They can rescind qualifying offer to diop and they at 30 million, Right?

[DAF86]

There isn't a single scenario that isn't a win if he leaves.

If he leaves and the young guys take a step forward, super win.

If he leaves and the young guys don't take a step forward, also a great win because we can finally tank properly knowing what we have and don't have going forward.

[Gibbz]

Spurs will offer the max. DeRozan re-signs.


Not a chance in Hell.

[duncan2150]

Jordan Schultz: DeMar DeRozan update: Both the #Clippers and #Spurs remain interested in signing him, (https://hoopshype.com/social/) per league sources. San Antonio, I’m told, would like him back but isn’t willing to go above market value.

[BillMc]

Can we sign and trade him to Dallas for KP? And is that something we'd even like to do? Usually takes 2 years for someone to get fully back from the injury Porzingis suffered, which mean he might be back to his Knick quality.

On the other hand, that contract is horrendous.

[tbdog]

Can we sign and trade him to Dallas for KP? And is that something we'd even like to do? Usually takes 2 years for someone to get fully back from the injury Porzingis suffered, which mean he might be back to his Knick quality.

On the other hand, that contract is horrendous.

Collins is cheaper.

[BillMc]

Collins is cheaper.

No doubt.

[CGD]

Jordan Schultz: DeMar DeRozan update: Both the #Clippers and #Spurs remain interested in signing him, (https://hoopshype.com/social/) per league sources. San Antonio, I’m told, would like him back but isn’t willing to go above market value.

The elusive “market price.” Honestly what is that for DDR right now, full MLE level?

[XDT76]

After today's activity I do not want DRR back. I want the Spurs to get a proper PF, one who can rebound and provide all around defence. I might tear my hair our if KJ plays as our starting PF again.

[duncan2150]

The elusive “market price.” Honestly what is that for DDR right now, full MLE level?


i think so or at least not more than 20 millions. But i hope he'll go elsewhere and take the full MLE.

[tbdog]

After today's activity I do not want DRR back. I want the Spurs to get a proper PF, one who can rebound and provide all around defence. I might tear my hair our if KJ plays as our starting PF again.

Except for Collins, who?

[XDT76]

Except for Collins, who?

Chris Boucher, Markieff Morris or DJ Wilson?

[TheChillFactor]

After today's activity I do not want DRR back. I want the Spurs to get a proper PF, one who can rebound and provide all around defence. I might tear my hair our if KJ plays as our starting PF again.

dude, there are like 3-4 of those in the league. everywhere else it's small forwards playing power forward.

[XDT76]

dude, there are like 3-4 of those in the league. everywhere else it's small forwards playing power forward.

There is Zion, Anthony Davis, John Collins, Jonathan Isaac, Siakam, Antetokounmpo, Prozingis, Kevin Love, Julius Randle, Jaren Jackson Jr to name a few so your 3-4 is definitely not true. Also KJ is not a small forward playing up 1 position, he is a SG playing up 2 position.

[SAGirl]

1422198150786342921
scenario may happen with the Westbrook trade blocking off LA as DeRozan new team and him ending up back here.

Prepare for the worst
OMG! Is this for real?
After he went public with his bid for a playoff team announcing he was willing to take a paycut, I think that backfired on him bc teams assumed he's take an MLE deal and that is obviously not what he was talking about.

So now, that's all the chatter about finding his price point and all that. Spurs want him back also, but not above market price, So Derozan basically torpedoed his own contract and could be back?

:vomit:

[ragas]

I would love it - only for seeing ST collapse