_so much for a Repeat_

[mouse]

I guess you guys can stop with the repeat talk, Hell you can't even get past the Wizards , and yet you want to be the 2006 NBA Champions?


I pray to GOD you at least make it to the Playoffs. I want to see another 32 point ass waxing by the Mighty Mighty Dallas Mavericks.


Face it! This team is nowhere near Playoff material. So before you talk bad about the Dallas maveicks look at your own team, It's in very serious trouble.



http://www.boomspeed.com/woaimouse/0-spurs-meltdown.jpg

[sanman53]

Yeah, I doubt we will win another game. We are lottery bound huh? You really seem to know what youre talking about. Youve changed me with this post and the pictures.

Maybe I would be a "maveicks" fan if I knew who that was...

[Suns Fan]

I saw many in here give mouse a hard time last time the Mavericks lost,

what's good for the goose.........



oh wait! these are Spur fans, they are bias, and have no idea what fair play means,

never mind my bad.............:lmao

[sanman53]

^^^^I gotta have more cowbell!^^^^

[GoSpurs21]

mouse, next time I want a 7th grade opinion I'll ask you

[Pistonfan1]

I guess you guys can stop with the repeat talk, Hell you can't even get past the Wizards , and yet you want to be the 2006 NBA Champions?


I pray to GOD you at least make it to the Playoffs. I want to see another 32 point ass waxing by the Mighty Mighty Dallas Mavericks.


Face it! This team is nowhere near Playoff material. So before you talk bad about the Dallas maveicks look at your own team, It's in very serious trouble.



http://www.boomspeed.com/woaimouse/0-spurs-meltdown.jpg


Next week is a preview of the 2006 NBA finals between the Pistons and the Mavs. You guys are for real in the west and it will be a great game to see. Sheed vs Dirk (hell be an all team 1st defender once he gets Aj's style of D down) will be the matchup of the decade.

[mouse]

^^^^I gotta have more cowbell!^^^^

well you already have Tpark, now you just need the bell :lmao

[mouse]

mouse, next time I want a 7th grade opinion I'll ask you
But your still only in the 6th grade, That's what I like about you, always thinking ahead,

[Suns Fan]

But your still only in the 6th grade, That's what I like about you, always thinking ahead,
SERVED :lmao

[Mavs<Spurs]

SERVED :lmao

What are you doing here, Gomer?

I hope you are okay after that beating in the playoffs we gave you.

You don't look good. What's your record again?

How many titles have you won?

:fro :lol

[Mavs<Spurs]

SERVED :lmao


You might want to think before you post.

Oh, that's right. I am dealing with the illiterate again.

You are my special education students.

I really should get more of a stipend for having to instruct morons like you.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Who is worse, the Mavs or the Suns?

Neither of your teams have good records. Neither of your teams plays good defense. Neither of your teams has a good post player. And best of all, neither of your teams have ever won a championship. I don't hear anybody out there on ESPN or NBA tv or TNT saying that the Mavs and the Suns are going to win it all and that they will beat the Spurs in the playoffs. There's a reason for that.

You have no past example to show your ability to win it all.
You aren't doing well now.
In short, there is no reason to think that either of your teams will win it all.

:lol

[Mavs<Spurs]

It's funny. Whenever the posting starts to turn to a discussion of facts, Mouse and his little loser punk friend, disappear.

Of course, Mouse has already been exposed as a liar!

[Mavs<Spurs]

Or was it a hypocrite? One of the two.

[angel_luv]

Mouse is loose. Someone call pest control.

[Mavs<Spurs]

We already saw earlier today that not only is our fan of the Pistons rude, but also illiterate and/or can't count!

[GoSpurs21]

But your still only in the 6th grade, That's what I like about you, always thinking ahead,wow did you think of that all by yourself. you really stung me with that one.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Mavs and Suns: no titles at all in the past.

Here's your present standing, both of you below the Spurs.

NBA Overall Standings 2005-2006

Overall: 2005-2006 2004-2005 2003-2004 2002-2003 2001-2002 2000-2001 1999-2000 1998-1999 1997-1998 1996-1997 1995-1996 1994-1995 1993-1994 1992-1993 1991-1992 1990-1991 1989-1990 1988-1989 1987-1988 1986-1987 1985-1986 1984-1985 1983-1984 1982-1983 1981-1982 1980-1981 1979-1980 1978-1979 1977-1978 1976-1977 1975-1976 1974-1975 1973-1974 1972-1973 1971-1972 1970-1971 Expanded: Select Season2005-2006 2004-2005 2003-2004 2002-2003 2001-2002 Breakdown: Division Conference League Season Type: Regular Preseason

Eastern Conference
ATLANTIC W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
Philadelphia 3 3 .500 - 2-2 1-1 1-3 0-0 99.5 103.7 Won 3 3-3
New Jersey 3 4 .429 ½ 2-2 1-2 2-3 1-0 94.1 96.4 Lost 2 3-4
Boston 2 3 .400 ½ 2-2 0-1 1-2 1-0 96.2 98.0 Lost 1 2-3
New York 0 5 .000 2 ½ 0-2 0-3 0-2 0-1 84.6 92.8 Lost 5 0-5
Toronto 0 5 .000 2 ½ 0-4 0-1 0-4 0-1 89.8 104.4 Lost 5 0-5
CENTRAL W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
Detroit 6 0 1.000 - 2-0 4-0 3-0 0-0 100.7 87.7 Won 6 6-0
Milwaukee 4 1 .800 1 ½ 2-1 2-0 4-0 1-0 107.6 103.2 Won 1 4-1
Cleveland 4 2 .667 2 3-0 1-2 1-0 0-0 99.5 91.7 Won 3 4-2
Indiana 4 2 .667 2 2-1 2-1 4-2 0-1 100.5 95.7 Lost 1 4-2
Chicago 3 2 .600 2 ½ 3-1 0-1 1-1 0-0 98.2 98.2 Won 2 3-2
SOUTHEAST W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
Washington 5 1 .833 - 3-1 2-0 3-0 1-0 102.7 90.5 Won 2 5-1
Miami 4 3 .571 1 ½ 3-1 1-2 2-3 1-0 96.4 93.6 Won 2 4-3
Orlando 2 3 .400 2 ½ 0-2 2-1 0-2 0-1 81.2 85.6 Won 2 2-3
Charlotte 2 5 .286 3 ½ 1-3 1-2 2-2 0-1 98.0 100.3 Lost 4 2-5
Atlanta 0 6 .000 5 0-3 0-3 0-0 0-0 90.5 99.7 Lost 6 0-6
Western Conference
NORTHWEST W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
Minnesota 3 2 .600 - 3-0 0-2 3-2 1-1 94.4 89.0 Won 2 3-2
Utah 4 3 .571 - 1-1 3-2 2-1 0-0 92.4 90.4 Lost 1 4-3
Portland 2 3 .400 1 2-1 0-2 0-2 0-2 84.8 91.4 Lost 1 2-3
Denver 2 4 .333 1 ½ 2-1 0-3 2-4 1-0 96.5 95.5 Lost 1 2-4
Seattle 1 4 .200 2 1-1 0-3 1-2 1-0 90.0 109.2 Lost 3 1-4
PACIFIC W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
LA Clippers 5 1 .833 - 2-0 3-1 2-1 0-0 95.8 92.3 Won 2 5-1
Golden State 4 3 .571 1 ½ 2-1 2-2 0-2 0-1 93.7 91.7 Lost 1 4-3
Phoenix 3 3 .500 2 1-3 2-0 3-2 2-1 108.2 104.3 Won 1 3-3
LA Lakers 3 3 .500 2 1-1 2-2 2-2 0-1 96.8 96.8 Lost 2 3-3
Sacramento 2 4 .333 3 1-1 1-3 2-3 1-0 92.3 100.3 Won 1 2-4
SOUTHWEST W L PCT GB HM RD CONF DIV PF PA STRK L10
San Antonio 5 2 .714 - 2-0 3-2 1-1 0-1 97.7 91.9 Lost 1 5-2
Dallas 4 2 .667 ½ 1-0 3-2 3-1 2-0 100.0 98.0 Won 2 4-2
Memphis 4 3 .571 1 2-1 2-2 1-0 0-0 90.3 89.9 Won 1 4-3
NO/Oklahoma City 2 3 .400 2 1-2 1-1 2-1 1-1 91.4 91.4 Lost 2 2-3
Houston 2 3 .400 2 1-2 1-1 1-1 0-1 87.8 87.0 Won 1 2-3


When you have nothing in the recent past which indicates you are a contender and your present record is not as good as the Spurs and you are basing your entire contention upon the third game of the season which we played in your home arena after a blowout win, you are less than convincing when you claim that you will win win it all and advance past the Spurs.

Of course, virtually every reasonable, objective person who knows basketball does not predicate their entire (or even of most of their) view of who will win it all based upon a team's performance in November.

As I pointed out earlier, the Pacers had the best record in 04. However, the Pistons won it all. The Suns had the best record in 05. However, the Spurs won it all.

November is not a good predictor of who will win a championship. Teams can and have won it all despite starting out of the gate early (99 Spurs, 03 Spurs).

Of course, our obnoxious Pistons fan can't read or count. However, maybe a friend can help.

[E20]

_so much for a Repeat_

So much for ever winning a title. (or anything else for that matter)

I guess you guys can stop with the winning talk, because it looks like it will never happen. (Maybe 200 years)

[bdubya]

I guess you guys can stop with the repeat talk, Hell you can't even get past the Wizards , and yet you want to be the 2006 NBA Champions?


Well, I'm glad to hear the playoffs are already decided. Can we have the trophy back now?

[dknights411]

So everytime we lose, mouse declares us done. :rolleyes

I don't really care what mouse says, especially durig the first month. We'll see what he's saying come April.

[The Artest Factor]

The reason the Mavs will never win a championship is Dirk Nowitzki is the most overrated player in the entire league. People bust a nut over the guy just because he can shoot the 3. Whoopdy doo. People need to relieze, the reason why big men are so key to winning championships is (a) High % interior scoring (b) dominating rebounding (c) tough interior defense. Dirk provides none of the 3. He's basically a 7' shooting guard. And shooting guards dont win championships. Dallas has had some of the most talented teams in the league the past 5 years, yet they've got nothing to show for it because Dirk isn't a championship caliber player. If Dallas ever wants to win, they need to move Dirk to SF and try to trade for a strong interior presence. Doesn't have to be a star player, just someone better than the lazy Erick Dampier.

[strangeweather]

Next week is a preview of the 2006 NBA finals between the Pistons and the Mavs.

Actually, if losing 2 games already DQs teams for the finals, I guess it will be Pistons-Clips. :rolleyes

[Trainwreck2100]

They lost to a team that wore second round celebration shirts, this is a new low for the Spurs organization.

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah the spurs look like they are in trouble. Duncan should just retire. :lol

[Rummpd]

This is the "Mouse that roared", a little prematurely I might add after 7 games of the season. He has to know that the Spurs always stumble out of the gate, then like a freight train blow through the WC.

Dallas is a decent team and perhaps improved due to their emphasis on defense, but absolutely no way they beat the Spurs in a series.

[cherylsteele]

This is the "Mouse that roared", a little prematurely I might add after 7 games of the season
He is mistaking 7 games in the regular season for a 7 game playoff series. That is why he and the Mavs won't win in the near future.

[ALVAREZ6]

I'm pretty sure Mouse was being sarcastic guys....

































































If not than he's a moron.

[mugatu]

I saw the game, and I can say it's a 99% chance, the Spurs are not going to repeat,

[Solid D]

Southwest Division....W..L
1. San Antonio..........5..2
2. Dallas..................4..2 (what can we ever do to get past San Antonio?)

[gollum]

Pssssssssst!
what was the scores of the last two spurs vs Mavericks games?


:lmao

[Solid D]

Southwest Division....W..L
1. San Antonio..........5..2
2. Dallas..................4..2 (what can we ever do to get past San Antonio?)
:tu

[dknights411]

I'm pretty sure Mouse was being sarcastic guys....

































































If not than he's a moron.


I vote for moron. :angel

[yeahone]

Go mavs 2206 Nba champs

[snyderman]

Mavericks win NBA championship....Eric Dampier wins finals MVP....Press Conference is interupted by flying pigs.

[Solid D]

:lol ^

[E20]

I can only say that the Mavs are a mediocore team. They have better talent than the Kings, but in the end they fail. Both teams always finish with a record better than .500 and get booted in the 2nd round of playoffs. The only way I see the Mavs in the future winning anything is a complete sweep of the organization (Cuban sells the team). Everybody gets fired and re-hire better personnel. Get rid of the garbage players (KVH, Stackhouse etc.)and replace them with role players that can work with Dirk or another big. The only person I see doing a good job is probably AJ.

[mavsfan1000]

I can only say that the Mavs are a mediocore team. They have better talent than the Kings, but in the end they fail. Both teams always finish with a record better than .500 and get booted in the 2nd round of playoffs. The only way I see the Mavs in the future winning anything is a complete sweep of the organization (Cuban sells the team). Everybody gets fired and re-hire better personnel. Get rid of the garbage players (KVH, Stackhouse etc.)and replace them with role players that can work with Dirk or another big. The only person I see doing a good job is probably AJ.

what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it.

[Solid D]

http://www.nba.com/media/mavericks/JTerry_340_051112.jpg

When are the Mavs going to change back to traditional green and blue for their official colors? It seems they like the green, as often as they break it out.

[dknights411]

what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it.

I've heard WAY dumber things here. Yet, I'm completley fine. :spin

[Rummpd]

"I saw the game, and I can say it's a 99% chance, the Spurs are not going to repeat,"

Signed a Heat Fan Above (Muguto)

Spoken by a fan who ought to be concerned that Shaq man is hurt again (surprise, surprise with the weight he is carrying), that his team has no one else except Wade who can play team ball and many, many other issues!

Oh and by the way, right now the Heat are the 8th seed in the East - how funny is that?

Finally, as a medical epidemiologist who knows statistics and knows your 99% is BS period = I will put up 50$ right now if you give me 99:1 odds on this Spurs team to win title right now!

[E20]

what you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having listened to it.

What is more idiotic/insane is the topic.

So you're saying that Mark Cuban knows what he is doing and that Dallas is going to win a title sometime this year or in the future......

P.S
Thank Cuban for me for paying Finleys contract.

[Ron Jeremy]

Press Conference is interupted by flying pigs.

Can we keep your sisters out of this? :lmao

You guys make some interesting points. But until your Spurs can figure out how to beat Mouse's Mavericks? he will always have scoreboard on this forum,

[bull62400]

I think its funny how early we're arguing whos winning the championship, it is waaaay to early to be discussing who are contenders or not. But I do say that the Spurs are off to a slow start. But they always start slow. Remember we started at 6-8 in 99...

[Solid D]

http://us.st8.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/wickedcoolstuff_1868_59279844

"I've got regular season scoreboard on you Spurs!" "Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!"

[Extra Stout]

So mouse dies and goes to hell...

On the first day in hell, Satan makes his rounds to make sure all the new arrivals are sufficiently uncomfortable.

He gets to mouse, who's smiling like an idiot and cackles, "Hot enough for you?"
mouse replies, "Bucho, it's hot, but it ain't near as hot as Texas in June!"

Satan can't have people enjoying themselves, so he has his minions throw more brimstone in this furnace for the next day's rounds. He sees mouse with the same shit-faced grin and asks, "Hot enough for you yet?" mouse says, "Vato, it's hotter than it was yesterday, but it still ain't nothing like Texas in July!"

Satan, flummoxed, orders his minions to turn up the furnaces full-blast. The next day, the residents of hell gnash their teeth anew over this added suffering, but mouse has that same big Mexican-ass grin on his face. Satan asks him, "Is it hot enough for you NOW??!!" mouse replies, "Gumbada, this is as hot as I've felt it down here, but it's STILL not like Texas in August!!!"

Satan is flabbergasted! How can he let mouse get over on him? Suddenly, he gets an idea! He tells his minions to make hell as cold as possible. The next day, sheets of ice coat everything in hell. Satan finds mouse with icicles hanging from his bushy eyebrows and asks, "How you feeling today?"

mouse answerswhile shivering, "Man, my thin Mexican blood isn't made for cold like this! This sucks!" Satan then asks, "Then why do you still have that same shit-faced grin you've had since you got here?"

mouse exclaims, "Because the Mavericks just won the championship!!!"

[Solid D]

^rack^

[SA Gunslinger]

The Mavs are a "Michael Finley" from a championship.

[gollum]

So mouse dies and goes to hell...

On the first day in hell, Satan makes his rounds to make sure all the new arrivals are sufficiently uncomfortable.

He gets to mouse, who's smiling like an idiot and cackles, "Hot enough for you?"
mouse replies, "Bucho, it's hot, but it ain't near as hot as Texas in June!"

Satan can't have people enjoying themselves, so he has his minions throw more brimstone in this furnace for the next day's rounds. He sees mouse with the same shit-faced grin and asks, "Hot enough for you yet?" mouse says, "Vato, it's hotter than it was yesterday, but it still ain't nothing like Texas in July!"

Satan, flummoxed, orders his minions to turn up the furnaces full-blast. The next day, the residents of hell gnash their teeth anew over this added suffering, but mouse has that same big Mexican-ass grin on his face. Satan asks him, "Is it hot enough for you NOW??!!" mouse replies, "Gumbada, this is as hot as I've felt it down here, but it's STILL not like Texas in August!!!"

Satan is flabbergasted! How can he let mouse get over on him? Suddenly, he gets an idea! He tells his minions to make hell as cold as possible. The next day, sheets of ice coat everything in hell. Satan finds mouse with icicles hanging from his bushy eyebrows and asks, "How you feeling today?"

mouse answerswhile shivering, "Man, my thin Mexican blood isn't made for cold like this! This sucks!" Satan then asks, "Then why do you still have that same shit-faced grin you've had since you got here?"

mouse exclaims, "Because the Mavericks just won the championship!!!"


^ :lmao

mouse got Served!

[sandman]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[TheSuckUp]

I really believe the Spurs will win it all this year.

[mavsfan1000]

The Mavs are a "Michael Finley" from a championship.

You mean they are Michael Finley's missed shots in the playoffs from a championship. :lol

[leemajors]

finley wasn't the only mav missing shots. think deutsch.

[mavsfan1000]

Finley had some ugly shooting lines in the playoffs. Dallas is glad to get rid of his disappearing act.

[milkyway21]

Finley had some ugly shooting lines in the playoffs. Dallas is glad to get rid of his disappearing act.as far as I can remember, Finley(w/ Van Exel), led a comeback against the Spurs Game 4 (or 5?), of the 2003 WC ungrateful Mav fan?

sourgrapes? :eyebrows

Whatever you say, I am happy we landed Finley in the FA agency, and he can help us win games this season.

[mavsfan1000]

You'll see Finley in his last 2 playoffs played like crap. Maybe he had a good 2003 playoffs but ever since than was a disappearing act.

[milkyway21]

You'll see Finley in his last 2 playoffs played like crap. Maybe he had a good 2003 playoffs but ever since than was a disappearing act.he was not 100%, right?

he was injured. and his minutes were reduced.

look, Finley is not starting for the Spurs, just a backup, there's no cause for concern. We have Manu/Bowen

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah I don't see Finley being much of a factor to the spurs winning another championship. I don't see him being missed in Dallas either.

[milkyway21]

Yeah I don't see Finley being much of a factor to the spurs winning another championship. I don't see him being missed in Dallas either.you don't get it.

He's important to us, that's what I mean. But he's NOT the leading man. He's a star but he's not the one running the show.

[mavsfan1000]

you don't get it.

He's important to us, that's what I mean. But he's NOT the leading man. He's a star but he's not the one running the show.

You are giving Finley too much credit. He once was a star but heavy minutes have taken its toll on him. He might be a decent player coming off the bench but that's it.

[milkyway21]

You are giving Finley too much credit. He once was a star but heavy minutes have taken its toll on him. He might be a decent player coming off the bench but that's it.That's the same statement we heard when the Admiral begun to show wear and tear in his last few seasons with the Spurs bec of bad back. But hold on to him and we won 2 titles with him.

Speaking of Finley,what do u want me to say, we signed him for nothing? That the Heat, Detroit, Suns are idiots on running after his FA?

Whatever it is you have against Finley, let it go. If you think you won't miss a player who helped your team won 60 wins in 2003, so be it.

Just don't give me the idea that signing this player is actually a complete waste of our time. Unless of course if he is injured the rest of the season.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/images/2005-2006/1102spurs1_trophy_wl.jpg

[mavsfan1000]

I saw Finley play the last 2 years and like the guy but there were times I wanted him to be benched because he was that bad. I thought Daniels could prove to be a better player than Finley in these last 2 years. I am not a fan of Christie starting and feel that Daniels is clearly better at this time. The only thing Finley can do now is hit 3's and post up. Even that he is very inconsistent in doing. He is breaking down but I hope he gets a title. That is the one player I like on San Antonio.

[milkyway21]

...but I hope he gets a title. That is the one player I like on San Antonio....don't worry Tim Duncan, Manu TP and the rest of the gang will see to it that he'll get a ring before he retires.:D

[NZHayden]

i like big buts and i cannot lie




oh sorry i thought this was the quattro aka a meaningless thread

[Steve Perry]

i like big buts and i cannot lie

you should since your big head is in it 24/7 :lmao





oh sorry i thought this was the quattro aka a meaningless thread

That topic has over 10,000 replies, it looks like it means something to shit load of posters to me. :smokin

at the end of the day the Mavs have scoreboard!

[nkdlunch]

Wizards are gonna have the mavs for breakfast too

[mavsfan1000]

Wizards are gonna have the mavs for breakfast too

No. They only do that to the spurs :lol

[pache100]

Next week is a preview of the 2006 NBA finals between the Pistons and the Mavs.
:blah :blah :blah :blah :blah



You guys are for real in the west and it will be a great game to see. Sheed :p vs Dirk :baby (hell be an all team 1st defender once he gets Aj's style of D down) will be the matchup of the decade.
:lol :lmao :lmao :lmao

How could you possibly take anyone seriously who posted something like that?

Like someone said the other day...I don't care if the Spurs go 50 and 32 during the regular season...as long as they win 16 in May and June. :spin

[pache100]

Well, I'm glad to hear the playoffs are already decided. Can we have the trophy back now?

Sure. We'll let you know when we're done with it.

[MiNuS]

The Spurs are just consistent with their style of play. They have never been a dominant team but do put long win stretches of 8-10 games and then they'll lay an egg.

I guess we can blame it on Timmy's patches for the loss to the Wizards.

[Puppy Dog]

I guess you guys can stop with the repeat talk, Hell you can't even get past the Wizards , and yet you want to be the 2006 NBA Champions?


I pray to GOD you at least make it to the Playoffs. I want to see another 32 point ass waxing by the Mighty Mighty Dallas Mavericks.


Face it! This team is nowhere near Playoff material. So before you talk bad about the Dallas maveicks look at your own team, It's in very serious trouble.



http://www.boomspeed.com/woaimouse/0-spurs-meltdown.jpg


can you hear us now? :smokin


you keep celebrating in november, we'll wait til June. :tu

[Mavs<Spurs]

Interesting pair here.

We've got Mouse, who is tied with Joe Wilson for the most discredited man in America, joined with his illiterate buddy, the Piston homer.

One team with no defense and one team with no offense. Neither team with the trophy. And then there's the Spurs, the Reigning World Champs who have both offense and defense.

:fro

[Mavs<Spurs]

Neither the rat nor the illiterate one understand basketball.

That's why they don't understand the difference between winning a 7 game playoff series and winning an individual game.

Mediocre teams like Alice, who don't really play defense and who rely a lot upon perimeter jumpshots, can get hot every once in a while and win an individual game by a lot. However, they can also go cold.

A team like San Antonio that has a great post player like Duncan is able to get higher percentage shots off beats a perimeter jumpshooting team the vast majority of the time. San Antonio also plays great defense.

That's why we're the champs and Alice is not.

[mouse]

Interesting pair here.

yes you remember that when you have two!, not one!,, pair of
smack shoes inserted deep in your spurs loving ass,



We've got Mouse, who is tied with Joe Wilson for the most discredited man in America,

I am sure you can add to that list bucko, you left out Bush, Clinton, and the head of FEMA


joined with his illiterate buddy, the Piston homer.

Look brah you can say what you wish about me, But when you disrespect the 2004 NBA Champions your going to far, Where was your weak ass bandwagon johnny come lately ass when the Pistons were holding up the NBA, Championship trophy?

Dats right, your ass was at home watching the Bass Fishing channel just like every other NASCAR redneck,


One team with no defense

The mavericks waxed your ass last time they played the Spurs, and the time before that? you lost to the Mavericks by 32 points, looks like a little defence to me , maybe you need to open a window when your using that very strong smelling glue to fix that Jeff Gordon NASCAR mug you smashed when he came in 16th in his last race, your going off the deep end brah,





and one team with no offense.


Pssssssssst! did you forget the Pistons just won a ring right before you did? how can they not have an offense? Now your going into meltdown mode, you better check your flux copassitor its not fluxing,





Neither team with the trophy.

I am not sure if your NBA history is new, maybe your only one year in this NBA world, maybe you just joined after the Spurs won a ring, but.... if you can find a 2004 SI in your daddys restroom under the stained playgirl magazines with the stuck pages? you might want to see who is on the cover, The Pistons Brah,

pssssst! they have a ring, do you not know that?




And then there's the Spurs, the Reigning World Champs who have both offense and defense.


Funny they didn't have neither, when they got their ass waxed by the Mavericks.

[mouse]

Neither the rat nor the illiterate one understand basketball.

That's why they don't understand the difference between winning a 7 game playoff series and winning an individual game.

Mediocre teams like Alice, who don't really play defense and who rely a lot upon perimeter jumpshots, can get hot every once in a while and win an individual game by a lot. However, they can also go cold.

A team like San Antonio that has a great post player like Duncan is able to get higher percentage shots off beats a perimeter jumpshooting team the vast majority of the time. San Antonio also plays great defense.

That's why we're the champs and Alice is not.



yes you keep telling yourself that, what ever it takes to help you sleep at night. remember as you rock yourself to sleep on that tear stained pillow as you mumble we are the champions for 2 hours.

your going to have to face the Mavericks again so go ahead and get the shower rod ready




http://www.imagequick.net/PLUMBING/images/cr1.jpg

[BigVee]

What is your obsession with "ass waxing"?

[Solid D]

Picking Mavs to win year after year is sort of like dot races.
Eventually, you pick winning dot.

http://www.crystalinks.com/confucius2.gif

[Extra Stout]

What is your obsession with "ass waxing"?
He's extremely hairy.

[mouse]

What is your obsession with "ass waxing"?

It's something I learned in prison. PM me and I will meet you for a live demonstration.

[mouse]

Picking Mavs to win year after year is sort of like dot races.
Eventually, you pick winning dot.

http://www.crystalinks.com/confucius2.gif


You guys had 25 years of doing just that, I don't at least 5?

[Solid D]

mouse picking Mavs like picking nose.
Sometime, get surprise.

http://www.crystalinks.com/confucius2.gif

[Rescueone]

Don't forget, That Maverick loss was the season home opener for Dallas. They were pumped up for the Spurs. The Mavs treated that game as their " Championship" game.
So what Dallas won that that game by 30 points. All teams are trying to bring their "A" game against the Spurs every game they play. They better bring it or get blown out of the gym. Come May thru June the Spurs bring their A+ game, and that my friends is the difference between the Spurs, and all the wanna be champions.

[Mr. Peabody]

I think the Mavs will be a better team over the long haul because they have better ownership and better managment.

[Solid D]

I think the Mavs will be a better team over the long haul because they have better ownership and better managment.
http://www.animationusa.com/picts/univpict/peabody.jpg

Mr. Peabody: Sherman!
Sherman: Yes Mr. Peabody.
Mr. Peabody: Set the "Wayback Machine" for the last Dallas Mavs Championship season.
Sherman: Okay, Mr. Peabody, what year?
Mr. Peabody: The year was a.....it was......hmmm.

:smokin

[Mr. Peabody]

http://www.animationusa.com/picts/univpict/peabody.jpg

Mr. Peabody: Sherman!
Sherman: Yes Mr. Peabody.
Mr. Peabody: Set the "Wayback Machine" for the last Dallas Mavs Championship season.
Sherman: Okay, Mr. Peabody, what year?
Mr. Peabody: The year was a.....it was......hmmm.

:smokin

Are we not counting the Dallas Chaparrals eventual championships?

[Solid D]

:lmao

[mavsfan1000]

As Mark Cuban keeps bringing in new talent you can't help but agree. Devin Harris, Marquis Daniels, Josh Howard, Diop, and etc.

[SpursFreak1320]

spurs Own Alll

[mouse]

http://www.animationusa.com/picts/univpict/peabody.jpg

Mr. Peabody: Sherman!
Sherman: Yes Mr. Peabody.
Mr. Peabody: Set the "Wayback Machine" for the last Dallas Mavs Championship season.
Sherman: Okay, Mr. Peabody, what year?
Mr. Peabody: The year was a.....it was......hmmm.

:smokin


^ :lmao


















asshole :flipoff

[phyzik]

I think the Mavs will be a better team over the long haul because they have better ownership and better managment.

Better ownership? Let me get this straight.....

your talking about this guy?

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/jack_mccallum/03/24/programs/t1_cuban.jpg

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Feb-15-Sun-2004/photos/cuban.jpg

http://www.mysanantonio.com/specials/spurschamps/slideshows/spursmavericksgame1/images/thirteen.jpg

http://www.protocookie.com/images/cuban_combo.jpg


FYI.... Thats not supreme ownership material in those pictures.... Hell, putting him on the short bus would probably be an insult to the intelligence of mentally challenged kids all over the world.

He acts like the real life version of the role Robin Williams plays in the movie "Jack". A 5th grader in a 40yr olds body.

[Mr. Defense]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/images/2005-2006/1102spurs1_trophy_wl.jpg

very nice.



http://www.animationusa.com/picts/univpict/peabody.jpg

Mr. Peabody: Sherman!
Sherman: Yes Mr. Peabody.
Mr. Peabody: Set the "Wayback Machine" for the last Dallas Mavs Championship season.
Sherman: Okay, Mr. Peabody, what year?
Mr. Peabody: The year was a.....it was......hmmm.

:smokin

:lol well done.

[Steve Perry]

I don't get why Mark Cuban needs a court pass around his neck, It's not like no one knows him , or what he looks like,

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/jack_mccallum/03/24/programs/t1_cuban.jpg

[Puppy Dog]

that's in case he gets lost.

[phyzik]

that's in case he gets lost.

exactly :lol

[milkyway21]

http://www.animationusa.com/picts/univpict/peabody.jpg

Mr. Peabody: Sherman!
Sherman: Yes Mr. Peabody.
Mr. Peabody: Set the "Wayback Machine" for the last Dallas Mavs Championship season.
Sherman: Okay, Mr. Peabody, what year?
Mr. Peabody: The year was a.....it was......hmmm.

:smokin

:lmao :lmao :lmao

this thread isn't over yet?

Dallas fans check this out:

Dallas and San Antonio have been two of the most successful regular-season teams in the NBA over the last five seasons. But the Spurs have always beaten the Mavericks when it mattered most. :lol


Dallas and San Antonio are two of only three teams, along with Sacramento, to win 50 or more games in each of the last five seasons. However, the Mavericks have lost four of their last five regular season matchups with the Spurs after winning the previous four.

The defending NBA champion Spurs have also dominated the Mavericks in the postseason, knocking Dallas out in the conference finals in 2003 and in the semifinals in 2001. San Antonio also won the NBA Finals in 2005, 2003 and 1999.

The Mavericks beat the Spurs 104-68 on April 7 in the most recent meeting between the teams, but star San Antonio forward Tim Duncan did not play. . :smokin :smokin :smokin


2004-05 SEASON SERIES: Spurs, 3-1.

source: YahooSports

reality hurts:cry

[mavsfan1000]

I guess Dirk's injury had nothing to do with San Antonio winning? I believe Dallas and San Antonio were tied in the series 1-1 before Dirk went down. What could've happened if that didn't go down. Mavs in 7. :lol

[milkyway21]

I guess Dirk's injury had nothing to do with San Antonio winning? I believe Dallas and San Antonio were tied in the series 1-1 before Dirk went down. What could've happened if that didn't go down. Mavs in 7. :lolIf Pops only knew your FAVORITE coach Nelson had one ridiculous setplay such as"Hack-A-Bowen" you'd be knocked off before game 5.

that won't be impossible for the Spurs, you see

Season 3 Wins-1 loss(->Duncan did NOT play):lol

[SequSpur]

Mouse don't give a shit.

Every time he starts one of his stupid topics, you fools just pile on like ding dongs from a dog's ass.

Spurs own 3 Rings. Dallas doesn't own crap. But in 2005, the Mavs sent the Spurs out of town with their heads up their asses. So in real time, its Dallas 1, Spurs 0.

Dallas does look pretty good as long as the 7 foot shooting guard is dropping shots. I don't understand how they win 50 games with the style they play and the personnel changes they have had, that is pretty impressive.

But this is a Spurs forum and Mouse is full of crap as always and the Mavs will never win a championship.

Late.

[Solid D]

The same way people jump on you when you say things like Bruce Bowen sucks.

We all know you blow methane out your pipes most of the time. :lol

[SequSpur]

The same way people jump on you when you say things like Bruce Bowen sucks.

We all know you blow methane out your pipes most of the time. :lol


:lol :lol :lol

:rolleyes

[mavsfan1000]

The same way people jump on you when you say things like Bruce Bowen sucks.

We all know you blow methane out your pipes most of the time. :lol

Bruce Bowen is too old. Might as well trade him for a second round pick. :lol

[SequSpur]

Bruce Bowen was lit up the other night for 40+ points. I definitely don't want to hear him mentioned as a Defensive Player of the Year.

Because of him, I am sitting here listening to ESPN talk about the best team in the NBA.

The Pistons.

Solid D is a retard.

[Solid D]

http://static.flickr.com/31/55297229_d3b7cec4c1_m.jpg

Is pseudofan going to bake you some pumpkin pie next week?

[milkyway21]

Bruce Bowen is too old. Might as well trade him for a second round pick. :lolyeah, Pops shld consider trading him to the Mavs so they can win that ring:bling.

[Suns Fan]

All this SPURS RULE!!! talk, but when they Play the Mavericks they choke by 32 points, why is that?

[mavsfan1000]

I think the mavs have the spurs number. Parker can't guard Harris for some reason and Duncan can't guard Dirk. That is probably the toughest player in the league for Duncan to guard because Dirk is like a guard.

[Mush Mouth]

Worb!

[SequSpur]

I think the mavs have the spurs number. Parker can't guard Harris for some reason and Duncan can't guard Dirk. That is probably the toughest player in the league for Duncan to guard because Dirk is like a guard.

Dirk can't guard Duncan. Dirk can't guard anyone in the NBA.

There is a reason why Dallas doesn't get anywhere, year after year.

Dallas is a tough team to play, because of Dirk's outside shooting. When Dirk is off or pressured, Dallas will lose against anyone, spurs or no spurs.

When the time counts, the Spurs will destroy the Mavericks.

Parker, Ginobili and Duncan can score at will on the Mavs.

[gtownspur]

no disrespect to any mavs or suns fan. but the only way the Mavs or the Suns would acquire a championship would be if the larry o'brien were to become an airborne virus.

[mavsfan1000]

Dirk can't guard Duncan. Dirk can't guard anyone in the NBA.

Have you seen Duncan dominate Dirk? That is just a reputation Dirk has gotten a few years ago. He is tall and has improved his lateral movement to still give Duncan problems. Duncan tried to take advantage of Dirk but it didn't happen.

[SequSpur]

Have you seen Duncan dominate Dirk? That is just a reputation Dirk has gotten a few years ago. He is tall and has improved his lateral movement to still give Duncan problems. Duncan tried to take advantage of Dirk but it didn't happen.


Duncan is the best player in the league. I would say that if Duncan was aggressive, he would drop 50 on Dirk.

How bout that? Dirk is only better than Duncan in a Mavs fan wet dream.

[mavsfan1000]

Duncan is the best player in the league. I would say that if Duncan was aggressive, he would drop 50 on Dirk.

How bout that? Dirk is only better than Duncan in a Mavs fan wet dream.

I believe it is guards that give Dirk more trouble. Dirk can usually hang in there with power forwards. I say the matchup favors Dirk more times than not. San Antonio needs a long athletic small forward to shut Dirk down.

[SequSpur]

I believe it is guards that give Dirk more trouble. Dirk can usually hang in there with power forwards. I say the matchup favors Dirk more times than not. San Antonio needs a long athletic small forward to shut Dirk down.

I agree somewhat, but your outside shooting 7 footer vaginal wuss of a center has gotten you nowhere and typical mav fans like yourself can't wake up to face reality and see the fucking light.

Dirk Nowitski will take you nowhere shooting 3s.

Also, when the physicality of the play begins, Dirk is usually grabbing the ice pack.

Enjoy your success during the preseason and then gtfo of the way when the real season starts.

[mavsfan1000]

Dirk doesn't shoot many 3's anymore. When he is off he usually is taking it to the basket or shooting fade aways from mid range. With Nash it was a different story.

[milkyway21]

he would drop 50 on Dirk

TIM DUNCAN
CAREER HIGH
Points 53 vs. Dallas 12/26/01

the day Tim Duncan gave Mavs fans an early Christmas present-shot the game-winning basket in the last seconds of the game, finishing w/ 53 pts:cry

[SequSpur]

Dirk doesn't shoot many 3's anymore. When he is off he usually is taking it to the basket or shooting fade aways from mid range. With Nash it was a different story.

So what are you basing this success on? Dirk's past? Dirk today?

Dude is a good player. But he is not going to get you out of the second round. Check your history.

[mavsfan1000]

You did some long research there. Lafrentz was probably guarding him and that is a big time mismatch. Dampier would at least make Duncan go to perimeter.

[mavsfan1000]

So what are you basing this success on? Dirk's past? Dirk today?

Dude is a good player. But he is not going to get you out of the second round. Check your history.

Dirk is a much better player now than the past. Dirk has gotten strong enough to hold his ground on Duncan. Before he was slower and weaker so basing the past on now is off. Dampier and Diop are good post defenders as well so Duncan should not go off on Dallas. The key is to throw 7 footers against Duncan so Duncan can't go over them in the post.

[SequSpur]

Dirk is a much better player now than the past. Dirk has gotten strong enough to hold his ground on Duncan. Before he was slower and weaker so basing the past on now is off. Dampier and Diop are good post defenders as well so Duncan should not go off on Dallas. The key is to throw 7 footers against Duncan so Duncan can't go over them in the post.

Dampier :lol :lol :lol :lol

Diop, we'll see how he develops.

Dirk is the same ol shoot first ask second, non playing defense white boy from europe.

What else is new?

[mavsfan1000]

Dampier :lol :lol :lol :lol

Diop, we'll see how he develops.

Dirk is the same ol shoot first ask second, non playing defense white boy from europe.

What else is new?

laugh all you want but Dampier does well against people who like to post up. Diop might even better with more experience. He is a athletic version of Dampier. Your hate for Dirk is very obvious. Dallas is much worse on defense when Van Horn comes in for Dirk. Just look at that one game against Philly and other times Dirk didn't play.

[SequSpur]

I am happy for you mavfan. I am so glad that Dallas is a great team in November. :smokin

It gives you guys some hope. :elephant

Good Luck. :spin

[mavsfan1000]

Should be a great series. Glad that Nash isn't guarding Parker anymore. Nash is a terrible defender.

[milkyway21]

Should be a great series. Glad that Nash isn't guarding Parker anymore. Nash is a terrible defender.pretty obvious

"Finley is a waste".
"Nash, the 2005 MVP, a terrible defender"


...this guy hates Ex-Mav players from teams who beat them in the playoffs :lol

[mavsfan1000]

pretty obvious

"Finley is a waste".
"Nash, the 2005 MVP, a terrible defender"


...this guy hates Ex-Mav players from teams who beat them in the playoffs :lol

All I remember is seeing Parker school Nash in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure Terry and Harris could do a better job than what Nash did. Finley is over the hill now. His best years was in 2002 and before. Josh Howard, Marquis Daniels, Terry, and Harris makeup for the lost of Nash and Finley.

[Mavs<Spurs]

All this SPURS RULE!!! talk, but when they Play the Mavericks they choke by 32 points, why is that?

Remind me again why the Suns are so great. Frankly, I don't see it.

Pistons beat us in game 4 by more than 30. But guess what, that was only one game.

On the road, after a relatively easy win, if a team has their outside permiter shot falling, a team like the Mavs or the Wizards can beat us by a lot.

However, the percentages favor a team that can score easier through a low post player. Normally, in a seven game series, a team dependent upon perimeter jumpshots struggles to score more than a team which can score on the block.

Your putting way too much into November.

We were not a good road team during the regular season last year (21-20). Mediocre. On the other hand, we won every single game in the playoffs at Phoenix.

We're not where we want to be right now. However, we have five months or so to get there. As our team gets to know each other better and as our team returns to full strength (Manu esp, Finley and Barry less so), we will play better. We have the offensive weapons and we are one of the top two or three teams in the league in defense every year and have been for most of the tenure of Tim Duncan. Two first team all NBA defense members, consistently allow fewest points, one of the top teams in shot blocks, one of the best teams in terms of deflections, one of the best teams in terms of opp 3 pt shooting %, one of the best teams in terms of opp field goal %. We really only lost one major contributor and that was Devin Brown. Otherwise, we added on pieces (Oberto, Finley and Van Exel). Pop is still here. The Big Fundamental is still here. Bowen is still here. Therefore, there is no reason to think that as the season wears on, our defense will not be strong like it normally is.

With a strong defense and with an improved offense, we have a good chance of defending our title. No guarantees, but a good chance.

When Amare gets back, Suns will be competitive. If he were here, I don't doubt that you all would make the playoffs. Neither is there any reason to doubt that we will.

Our record is 6-2. 2 losses, whether by 1 or by 30 still are only 2 losses.

The odds are pretty good that we will beat Dallas in San Antonio. We lost only a couple of games last year at home during the regular season and fared well at home through out the playoffs (9-3 ie 75%)

People know that Tim is either the best (a consensus opinion) or one of the best (an admission by even people who hate the Spurs except when they go on the river parade like that hypocrite and liar, the little rat) players in the league. First team NBA every year for his first eight and doesn't look like that's going to change any time soon, Parker has a great chance at making the all star team this year and Manu will probably return, his scoring rising as time goes on and he is healthier (don't have to be a rocket scientist to connect the doubts there). We have won 3 finals. Tim has won the mvp of the league twice in the regular season and 3 times in the finals. We still have the highest winning percentage of any team in the four major professional sports venues in the Tim Duncan era. These are all facts, objective criteria which belie any claim that doubt should be cast on the return of the Spurs to the Postseason. When is the last time that we did not make the playoffs? Prior to the arrival of Tim Duncan.

All of these facts make it painfully obvious that anybody who says that they are unsure of whether the Spurs will return to the playoffs is either very stupid, completely ignorant of basketball or saying something that they know is untrue.

In fact, many people believe that the East is stronger than the West. Eight teams will beat San Antonio? Why should I believe this? It is claimed that our performance this season so far dictates this belief. However, we are now winning 60 % of our road games which is better than the 50 % which we won the previous year when we won our current title.

I don't think much of our centers, but I don't think much of Dampier. However, we all know that Tim is our post player. You all can go to Amare because his athleticism makes up for his lack of back to the basket moves. He has also improved his jumper. He is an all world, amazing athlete. Nash-Amare pick n roll is about as difficult a play to defend as there is in the NBA.
So, at least Phoenix has some points in the paint and in some sense a post player. Dallas does not have this.

Now, I am expected to believe that somehow based upon approximately 10 % of this season's games that Dallas will emerge as the best of the pack in the West? That's not extrapolation, that's extraterrestrial type of thinking. Far, far away in a distant galaxy where logic and truth and facts do not apply as they do here on Earth among us mortals. Dallas does not even have the best record now. I can't remember the last time that Dallas made it to the Western Conference Finals. So far, they won 1 game at home against us after we beat a team badly. We're a bad road team in the regular season and we faced a team who that particular night shot well from the outside.

This Dallas team has a history and it is not a good history. It is that of a team that makes it to the playoffs, wins the first round and loses the second round. A team that does not play defense the way that Detroit does or the way that we do. This is a team that is utterly dependent upon hitting outside perimeter jumpshots (which are normally going to be contested by the Spurs as their consistent history has demonstrated). One does not override eight years of history by a single night. In science, we call that an anomaly.

Anomalies happen. Functions may do all sorts of weird stuff before they finally approach a limit (a horizontal asymptote). In many of these functions as x approaches xnot, we see f(x) approach a limit L. And in these functions as x approaches x not it is true that for every Epsilon greater than zero, there exists a delta greater than zero such that the absolute value of x-xnot being less than delta does imply that the absolute value of f(x)- f (xnot) is less than Epsilon. As we get closer to June, you will see the Spurs converging upon that high level of play which they have played at for the last eight years, perhaps even that level of play which has been achieved when they won their 3 championships.

As I said before, anomalies happen, people actually do pick up a royal flush dealt to them (as improbable as that is for any one person), broken clocks are right twice every 24 hours. However, do not expect (and certainly do not waste our time with ridiculous, idiotic assertions) that the Spurs won't make the playoffs or should not be the favorite, at least in the West until you can produce better evidence gathered over a longer period of time.

Einstein stated that it is a mark of insanity to do the same exact thing and expect different results than obtained the first time. Dallas has not changed. San Antonio has not changed. Still no d in Dallas and no post play. San Antonio still has one of the best defensive teams in the league, still has TD, Parker, Ginobili, and a very good and improved offense. Anomalies in November do not overturn eight years of consistent results, especially when the factors which produced the results have not themselves changed.


:fro

[mavsfan1000]

Long ass post. Dallas does have d now and Daniels and Howard are becoming good post players.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Long ass post. Dallas does have d now and Daniels and Howard are becoming good post players.

D takes a while to develop. I'll say this: it's probably true that it has improved, but honestly (and this is not said sarcastically) you have to admit that it was very bad prior to AJ (so it kind of had to improve, nowhere else to go). However, imo, Dallas' d is still not up there with the best defensive teams (Detroit and SA- no arguments based upon anomalies or the first few months of November for reasons given above). Perhaps, some time in the future, Daniels and Howard will become good post up players and they have probably to some extent (as I have watched them this year and last year) improved. However, neither of them is really a post player who regularly posts up. Neither of them, in other words, is a power forward. You can't take a big guard (which Howard is) and call him a post player as Duncan is or Shaq or as Rasheed can be. If Howard stayed there (on the block), he would be killed due to his height and weight and he would be a hindrance to the offense.

I'm not saying anything you probably don't already know as do most fans, but you all need to get a prime time, post player who can score consistently with his back to the basket. Trade for somebody good.

:fro

[Mavs<Spurs]

Long ass post. Dallas does have d now and Daniels and Howard are becoming good post players.

short post. :fro

[Mavs<Spurs]

Long ass post. Dallas does have d now and Daniels and Howard are becoming good post players.

This is good mind numbing exercise as I have a presentation in one of my graduate classes in math that I am giving tomorrow.

At least, you can read unlike that clown, pistonsfan1 or whatever he calls himself.

Now, if you would just make it clear that when your buddy mouse (or is he a SA fan like Kori says as shown by the video tape of him celebrating in 99 on the river parade) says stupid things like the Spurs aren't going to make the playoffs or may not make the playoffs or like the Mavs are mighty and are definitely going to kill us in the playoffs that you realize that these positions are rationally and logically indefensible, then we could have civil discourse. :fro

[mavsfan1000]

Dallas on defense
Diop-Dampier>>Lafrentz
Dirk now>Dirk 3 years ago
Josh Howard=Najera
Doug Christie-Marquis Daniels=Michael Finley 3 years ago
Terry-Harris>>Nash-Van Exel
:spin

[Victor Newman]

Dirk can't guard Duncan. Dirk can't guard anyone in the NBA.

There is a reason why Dallas doesn't get anywhere, year after year.

Dallas is a tough team to play, because of Dirk's outside shooting. When Dirk is off or pressured, Dallas will lose against anyone, spurs or no spurs.

When the time counts, the Spurs will destroy the Mavericks.

Parker, Ginobili and Duncan can score at will on the Mavs.


And yet none of that takes place when the Spurs lose by 30 + points to the Mavs?

[SequSpur]

And yet none of that takes place when the Spurs lose by 30 + points to the Mavs?

Well here is your trophy for a November win.

:flipoff

How bout that?

Do you want three of them?

:flipoff :flipoff :flipoff

there, now you have three of something.

You fuckin Mav fans can kiss my ass and go back to mavtalk.com

Why in the fuck do you even post here anyway?

Fucking blow me already.

Mavs ain't shit.

[Extra Stout]

And yet none of that takes place when the Spurs lose by 30 + points to the Mavs?

Do the Mavs hang banners in the AAC for those wins?

[Mavs<Spurs]

Do the Mavs hang banners in the AAC for those wins?

I think that they are drinking too much of your product. It's a weekday so they better hope that their boss does not find out.

Quit trolling here.

Let's ignore 8 years of history for both the Spurs and the Mavs and construct an entire argument that Mavs>Spurs and Spurs won't make the beliefs on 2 games from a part of the season where less than 10 % of the games have been played. We can prove lots of interesting stuff this way (ie it proves too much).

School begins now: define anomaly. define normative. This is your homework and its due next time for class!

:fro

[Mavs<Spurs]

BTW, I find it very unusual that they would engage in special pleading so consistently.

Example: They claim that Mavs>Spurs and Spurs won't make the playoffs based upon 2 previous games. However, when we point out that we have won 3 championships and that the key element of those championships, Tim Duncan is still here, all but one is here from last year, they make an argument that those championships don't count because they were in the past. Indeed, it is based upon the past. So, were the games that they (the Mavs fans) used for their argument. They (the games the Mavs used to support their argument) are also part of the past. Neither is in the present. Textbook definition of special pleading, requiring them to modify their argument, admitting that the first way that they stated their argument is fatally flawed.



Of course, there is a major difference: we have a much larger and therefore more representative sample. Unfortunately, we appear to be dealing with math challenged bloggers. Too bad.


It's not hard to run rings around these clowns since almost all of the facts are all on one side of the argument and the best interpretation of the facts will basis its main premise on the majority of the facts.

Go back to school, Mavs trolls, Mavs homers and the hypocritical liar, the rat.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Do the Mavs hang banners in the AAC for those wins?


I doubt that they would talking about this if their win was against the Hornets. I think that we can take that as an obvious fact. You draw the conclusion, trolls. What follows from this beginning axiom. (P implies Q). What is Q?

:fro

[Oh, Gee!!]

Mavs will find always find a way to implode during the playoffs.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Should we invite the little rat on our 2006 river parade celebrating our fourth championship in the last eight years?

Obtain a sworn affidavit from him that he will no longer troll here, admit what a sorry bunch of losers he and his team (prepositional phrase (of losers)- hence, we go back to bunch singular) is.

These special ed students here try my patience. Any substitutes as I will be gone most of the day, as disappointing as it is to have to miss so much of their intellectually stimulating conversation. However, all good things must come to an end as the saying goes.

:fro

[Oh, Gee!!]

Is the rat from Dallas? Cuz if he's from S.A., he isn't worthy of being called a rat. He'd be lower than rat droppings. You can't be from S.A. or live here for more than a year and not love the Spurs.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Rat, you've been served. As have your buddies. At least you can remember the parade when you celebrated our win. Good times!!!

Ref better stop this before the rat gets run over and becomes roadkill or ratkill.

:elephant

[Mavs<Spurs]

Is the rat from Dallas? Cuz if he's from S.A., he isn't worthy of being called a rat. He'd be lower than rat droppings. You can't be from S.A. or live here for more than a year and not love the Spurs.

The rat, apparently has connections here. He is on a video celebrating the Spurs win in 99, yet uniformly slams our team on our site.

He is a liar, a hypocrite and a useless troll who does not add a thing to our forums.

On Chris and Charlie's show on am1200, they used to talk about how somehow it felt like there was more air to breath and maybe a little less gravitational pull after certain criminals were executed. I'm beginning to understand how they feel.

:fro

[Mavs<Spurs]

Mavs will find always find a way to implode during the playoffs.

Perhaps the little rat advises Cuban. That would explain a lot of their failures.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I Hate The Rat!!!!1111!!!!

[Solid D]

mouse is from San Antonio. He's a chain puller and he won't ever live in Dallas because he has a large circle of friends here in San Antonio.

(Circle of Friends = A circle of dudes around a campfire down by the RR tracks)

[Looter]

Dam six pages and not one post on how the Spurs can beat the Mavericks :lmao

[mavsfan1000]

Dam six pages and not one post on how the Spurs can beat the Mavericks :lmao

I know what you mean. They just show their bitterness toward the mavs rather than showing examples of them beating the mavs. :lol

[SequSpur]

I know what you mean. They just show their bitterness toward the mavs rather than showing examples of them beating the mavs. :lol

http://www.henrykay.com/nba/spurs/trophy.jpg http://www.henrykay.com/nba/spurs/trophy.jpg http://www.henrykay.com/nba/spurs/trophy.jpg

[SequSpur]

Oh wait... the mavs did win a championship.....

http://www.eaglesfield.com/fisherman_pics/fishing_award.jpg

[mavsfan1000]

You can't fall back on the past. Right now it is the mavs 1 and the spurs 0.

[Solid D]

Oh wait... the mavs did win a championship.....

http://www.eaglesfield.com/fisherman_pics/fishing_award.jpg

:rollin

[mouse]

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That is so weak when all you got left is to pull out the "count the rings" card.

That means prior to 1999* you guys must of just sat back and stayed quite?

I guess most of you have only been Spur fans for 6 years, Only a fan prior to 1999* can really talk smack since they never had the "count the rings" card to fall back on,

What will be so sweet is when the Spurs go out in round one this year and I bring this topic back to life as I quote all you losers, I can just see most of you changing your screen names already, since 90% of you here will most likely pull a Tpark and give up anyway before that day comes.



Keep your head in the Sand Spur fans as you avoid answering the question of how will the Spurs get past the Mighty Mavericks,



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[SequSpur]

That is so weak when all you got left is to pull out the "count the rings" card.

That means prior to 1999* you guys must of just sat back and stayed quite?

I guess most of you have only been Spur fans for 6 years, Only a fan prior to 1999* can really talk smack since they never had the "count the rings" card to fall back on,

What will be so sweet is when the Spurs go out in round one this year and I bring this topic back to life as I quote all you losers, I can just see most of you changing your screen names already, since 90% of you here will most likely pull a Tpark and give up anyway before that day comes.

Keep your head in the Sand Spur fans as you avoid answering the question of how will the Spurs get past the Mighty Mavericks,



http://www.eaglesfield.com/fisherman_pics/fishing_award.jpg

[phyzik]

That is so weak when all you got left is to pull out the "count the rings" card.

That means prior to 1999* you guys must of just sat back and stayed quite?

I guess most of you have only been Spur fans for 6 years, Only a fan prior to 1999* can really talk smack since they never had the "count the rings" card to fall back on,

What will be so sweet is when the Spurs go out in round one this year and I bring this topic back to life as I quote all you losers, I can just see most of you changing your screen names already, since 90% of you here will most likely pull a Tpark and give up anyway before that day comes.



Keep your head in the Sand Spur fans as you avoid answering the question of how will the Spurs get past the Mighty Mavericks,

So.... let me get this straight....

You want us to provide you with proof on how the Spurs will beat the Mavericks, when we point to the fact that Spurs have 3 championships AND the Dallas Mavericks are a repeat second round exit team, you say that isnt valid enough proof? :huh

So.... by your logic.... in a murder case, there is undeniable and undisputable proof the defendant killed someone a year ago, but since thats the past it is invalid?


riiiiight....... :spin

[milkyway21]

I know what you mean. They just show their bitterness toward the mavs rather than showing examples of them beating the mavs. :lol


"It is not HOW hard you push along the way,

It is HAVING something in you to FINISH it"
---Michael Jordan,#1 NBA's 50 Greatest Players

That "something" is NOT in Dirk, Dallas Maverick fans. :lol

[Mavs<Spurs]

You can't fall back on the past. Right now it is the mavs 1 and the spurs 0.

Special pleading again?

The Spurs Mavs game that you are referring to is in the past. You said that you can't fall back on the past.

Make up your mind!!!

Special pleading, hasty generalization, you all really need to take a class in logic.


:fro

[Mavs<Spurs]

I know what you mean. They just show their bitterness toward the mavs rather than showing examples of them beating the mavs. :lol

Apparently, you both are illiterate. Mouse started the thread with several accusations: (1) Spurs won't make the playoffs or there is a significant chance that they won't make the playoffs and (2) Mavs are better than the Spurs in general (ie not in one game on their home court) and (3) Mavs will advance further than the Spurs.

Since he made these allegations and he started the thread, he (and any of his conspirators) are obligated to prove them. The burden of proof is upon him. This is true for several reasons. First, about as many people believe in the flat earth theory as believe his allegations. Second, there are in plain view numerous facts which show that his allegations are unfounded.

In numerous posts, I have refuted his allegations. Any objective, unbiased judge would clearly rule that I have carried the debate.

Go back, read the posts and attempt to give a rebuttal that most reasonable, objective and knowledgable basketball fans and/or analysts would find compelling.

You all are the ones who have something to prove.

We've earned respect from those who know the game.

[Mavs<Spurs]

And yet none of that takes place when the Spurs lose by 30 + points to the Mavs?


There you go again.

Based upon one game, you make a hasty generalization. You jump from the results from one game to most games. You jump from a back to back game for the Spurs to apply it to games that are not back to back. You jump from a game in Dallas to games in San Antonio.

Then, when we bring in a much larger and much more representative sample, you claim that this is invalid because those games are in the past. However, the game where the Mavs beat the Spurs is in the past also. This is called special pleading. You are the only one who can bring in the past (and you do it very selectively). If anybody else brings in the past, you claim that it is evidence which can not be counted because it is in the past.

Of course, it was an anomaly.

Learn to reason, bozo.

[mouse]

Apparently, you both are illiterate. Mouse started the thread with several accusations: (1) Spurs won't make the playoffs or there is a significant chance that they won't make the playoffs and (2) Mavs are better than the Spurs in general (ie not in one game on their home court) and (3) Mavs will advance further than the Spurs.

Since he made these allegations and he started the thread, he (and any of his conspirators) are obligated to prove them. The burden of proof is upon him. This is true for several reasons. First, about as many people believe in the flat earth theory as believe his allegations. Second, there are in plain view numerous facts which show that his allegations are unfounded.

In numerous posts, I have refuted his allegations. Any objective, unbiased judge would clearly rule that I have carried the debate.

Go back, read the posts and attempt to give a rebuttal that most reasonable, objective and knowledgable basketball fans and/or analysts would find compelling.

You all are the ones who have something to prove.

We've earned respect from those who know the game.


Translation: I have no idea how the Spurs can beat the Dallas Mavericks so I will just babble on and hope it sounds good:lmao


Bro you have talent , you must be an attorney, after all it sounds good what your saying, but somehow watching the Dallas Mavericks beat the Spurs by 32 points is more than your silver tongue can do to make people forget that night, If the Spurs were to beat the Mavericks by 32 point I would give you props and move on, why can't you do the same?

The reason is? under all the those layers of BS you have wrapped around your bandwagon body? at the core of your lonely empty soul? lies the truth and the truth is your embarrassed to look in the mirror knowing at the end of the day, and after all the NBA dust settles ? the Dallas Mavericks still has scoreboard on your Manu flopping spurs, and that is something your high price attorney mouth can never change...................

[Rummpd]

Again, as I said before this is the "mouse who roars" always during the regular season then adios when his team, which is built for regular season success fades and chokes badly.

Dallas could be a threat (they have some talent and depth still; and a stronger emphasis on defense) but just because the Spurs had a hiccup on the road early, PLEASE they have to prove it when it counts just once!!!!

[mouse]

Again, as I said before this is the "mouse who roars"


nigra please! I have yet to raise my voice, As long as ThemanRules still has 50% of his young tight ass? Then he got off easy, trust me you will know when I decide to lay down the hammer of smack upon his lost soul.




always during the regular season then adios when his team, which is built for regular season success fades and chokes badly.


I can see your new here, If not, then you would know that 5 minutes after the Mavericks lost in the playoffs? I came in here giving out many props, and ate my crow like a real sports fan, why not take a look back on page 300 or so , and see for yourself what really took place on that very sad day,


just don't take all night I might want to vist other forums on the www.


Dallas could be a threat (they have some talent and depth still; and a stronger emphasis on defense) but just because the Spurs had a hiccup on the road early, PLEASE they have to prove it when it counts just once!!!!


A hiccup? that's what you call getting your ass greased and bent over a chair? a hiccup? I take it you think the movie Passion, was just about another friendly school hazzing :lmao

[phyzik]

Still waiting for the rat to argue my point.... of course he cant so he just ignore's it... selective reasoning just like Dallas winning one game and they own, but the Spurs have dominated Dallas over a decade but that isnt submissable in his mouse-sized mind.

Basically Mouse, if you are out to prove something, such as the theory that The Mav's are better then the Spurs, you logically cannot base that theory on one game.

If I saw a guy lose his Cancer because coincidentally he drank beer the day before, that doesnt freaking mean beer is the cure, I have to fucking prove it. Dallas Fagricks saw the postseason starting in 1983. 1983 through 1987 I will give them props for having the fewest ammount of turnoevers for 5 straight years but this was during the era that was 3-point land (everyone was offensive). After that year though they lost probably the best coach Dallas has ever had up until now (which, coincidentally, is an ex-spur LOL), Dick Motta.

The next year Dallas didnt even make the playoffs (1 game shy). Their ABSOLUTE BEST post season was in the 88-89 season which got them to the WCF and lost after 7 games.

after that:

89-90 to 99-00: Dallas didnt even make the playoffs but finish strong in 2000.

00-01: Second round exit (one of many to come)

01-02: Second round exit

02-03: WCF since 1988 before being destroyed by... guess who... SPURS

03-04: Mavs gone the first round.

Everyone should be able to guess from there how its gone.

how is that for proof you chode?

[mavsfan1000]

Dallas has found defense in Diop. The guy is playing unbelievable right now. Challenging every shot at the rim. He is a beast.

[mouse]

Still waiting for the rat to argue my point..


wake me up when you make one,



you chode?

I am not sure what that word means, but if we are going to get into the name calling, then don't get upset if we get off topic,
I only had 5 minutes to read some replies and I read Themanrules and not yours so I replied to his first,

I will take the time to re read any point you think you might of made, and I will be more than willing to answer in a timely fashion, But from what I have read so far ? you and all the other tree huggers in this topic still have not proved to me the Spurs are worthy of a repeat, and from what I can read thus far? I don't think you guys will be able to come up with an answer worth responding to,

[phyzik]

wake me up when you make one,




I am not sure what that word means, but if we are going to get into the name calling, then don't get upset if we get off topic,
I only had 5 minutes to read some replies and I read Themanrules and not yours so I replied to his first,

I will take the time to re read any point you think you might of made, and I will be more than willing to answer in a timely fashion, But from what I have read so far ? you and all the other tree huggers in this topic still have not proved to me the Spurs are worthy of a repeat, and from what I can read thus far? I don't think you guys will be able to come up with an answer worth responding to,

Ohhh... so now its gone from Spurs cant beat the Mavericks to Spurs aren't worthy? :lol

And your turning this into something like the Spurs have to prove themselves to you.... again, thats why we point to the rings. I think its the Mavericks who have to prove themselves worthy, dont get it flipped around.

[Vingianx]

blah blah blah

[Rummpd]

Mouse you are entitled to your opinion, which is just that an opinion, albeit singularly nieve. Dallas is a good to very good team, has better coaching than in the past, some good young talent etc. but it is not yet a championship quality team.

The truth of the matter is that the Spurs have the games definitive superstar, in Duncan, Dirk for all his brilliance is trying to get to that level! He is not there yet. Also, re Dirk, he has consistently come up "small" in big games when his shots are not falling - that is why Avery is trying so hard to basically change his game to more Duncan like, i.e. closer to the basket but that is a work in progress. The truth hurts but Dirk, although great, is not yet on Duncan's level and may well never be.

Then the Spurs have Manu (who by the was was hurting "big time" for the last Dallas game) and Parker - who is playing consistently at an all-star level (not up and down like so many dALLAS players "with potential). Add Bruce Bowen one of the best defenders in the game, proven clutch players like Horry and Van Exel, your team's cheap inane dump of veteran leadership and class (i.e. Michael Finley); and you have a core that is rightfully recognized by "all the talking heads" as the class of the league.

Add the Spurs greater experience, historical top of the league defense, and at least comparable but more integrated depth, and who would you rather go into a season with - if you say the Mavericks > Spurs = You are "certifiable" and I should start drawinng up admission papers for your for a place with a nice bed and a "caged like environment = you should like that as a mouse, would you not?

Plus before you get your dreams up of even future championships down the line, the Spurs have an international pipeline of talent right now they hold rights to that the Mavericks can only dream of having.

Simply put, you are backing the wrong horse in TX, "cowboy" or should I say "cowmouse"? :elephant

[mouse]

Ohhh... so now its gone from Spurs cant beat the Mavericks to Spurs aren't worthy? :lol

I have no say in how others respond , thus making the topic take many evil turns,It's out of my hands.


And your turning this into something like the Spurs have to prove themselves to you...

look brah let's put it another way, Your son is in a Karate match and some kid from another town whips his ass everytime they meet, You think all the trophys your son has really matters? You don't think your son would like to one day beat that kid? or does your son wait outside and when the other boy comes out he starts a chant " I have more trophys I have more trophys" Is that the kind of kid that makes you proud?

you think that kid that has scoreboard on your son gives a rats ass how many trophys you have in your house? All he cares about is that when your kid steps on the mat that he kicks his creamy white wonderbread ass all over the ring,




. again, thats why we point to the rings. I think its the Mavericks who have to prove themselves worthy, dont get it flipped around.


Did you not read the many posts above? the Ring card is getting old. It's the last resort of a deperate fan with no more good come backs,

And besides what do the rings have to do with this season? you want to beat the Mavericks, or just live in the past?



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[GoSpurs21]

what's really getting old is mouses jr high logic that only someone high on home grown can understand. face it mouse, the mavs got lucky on their home opener, but will fade during the playoffs...its just like death, taxes and your lame ass attempt at smack...they are all inevitable

[JustaGirl21]

Who is mouse and why is he/she such a tool for the pitiful Mavericks?

[Suns Fan]

what's really getting old is mouses jr high logic that only someone high on home grown can understand. face it mouse, the mavs got lucky on their home opener, but will fade during the playoffs...its just like death, taxes and your lame ass attempt at smack...they are all inevitable


I am sure your the pride of SpursTalk, and the King of smack.

Another Spurs fan with no answer to how the Spurs can beat the Mavericks?

If this was a Suns board , mouse would have got his answer on page one.

[mouse]

Who is mouse and why is he/she such a tool

If you have to ask ? then your new to sports, and your better off going back to your Nick at night message boards,





for the pitiful Mavericks?
Losing by 32 points to a pitiful team? what does that say about the Spurs?

don't answer, I already added your name to the list of the other 20 in this topic who can't come up with a reason either.

[Solid D]

How will the Spurs defeat the Mavs again? Here's my approach...

As far my memory serves me, the Mavs beat the Spurs earlier this season because they did the following:

1) (D) Dared the Spurs to shoot from the outside by sagging all 5 to the lane lines.
2) (D) Collapsed on Ginobili on every drive.
3) (D) Defended the offense entry well, creating later developing plays. They know the Spurs' favorite passing lanes, particularly from the point to the wings.
4) (O) Devin Harris was aggressive and the Spurs did not keep a body on Howard, before OR after the shot.
5) (O) 2-man s/r with Dirk executed well, shot well also.

The Spurs will beat the Mavs, when they:
1) (D) Tightly defend the 2-man s/r with Dirk and the PG (Terry, Harris, Armstrong) by trapping sideline or doubling Dirk off the screen.
2) (D) Play hard on-ball defense with active hands and don't buy the ball fakes.
3) (O) Spread the floor better for penetrations and hit their normal shots to punish Dallas when they double or triple team Timmy.
3) (O) Play very aggressively and draw fouls, particularly on Howard, Dirk and Diop.

That, by the way, is basically what the Spurs do when they have beaten the Mavs before, playoffs or otherwise.

[mouse]

^Rack Ducks

Even though it's not fair that a professional Sports analyst be the one to bail out the other misguided fools of this forum?

I must say you make some good points, But until the Spurs can prove any of it on the court This season? The Mavericks will always have the rights to the OWNED! slogan on your team.

[Mush Mouth]

Man I can't wait till the Spurs play the Mavericks, I want to see this mouse guy eat crow so bad,

sorry but he gets on my nerves,

[Solid D]

I'm not Ducks and not a professional analyst, but Ownage is not usually defined in your mind but in actual playoff performance. :lol

[mouse]

I'm not Ducks and not a professional analyst, but Ownage is not usually defined in your mind but in actual playoff performance. :lol


^:lmao

Sorry but being up 2 days straight drinking redbulls with vodka can do that.

Isn't Ducks a sports writer ?

[Rummpd]

Mouse as someone who does write professionally part-time your arguements continue to fail to realize the primary fact:

Regular season wins in the NBA mean almost nothing in the playoffs, except potentially to get that swing game for home court. Heck the Sixers beat the Spurs and LA both at one time 7 straight games 3 years ago or so, but could not have taken them in a playoff series. Spurs have dominated teams then lost in the playoffs or vice-versa at times, but surely they now have the inate confidence that comes from being not just champions but multiple champions, and are the only current franchise in the NBA that many observers rightly feel is on the verge of becoming a historic dynasty.

This is especially notable in Duncan's case of being a three time winner (or of a Horry with 6) that a team cannot just get by winning a few regular season games. Dallas, particularily Dirk has come up small time and time again in pressure situations; and no one they have added to their roster screams Clutch - unlike Horry or Van Exel as the Spurs in recent years or Manu who has two titles and Olympic Gold. Surely you cannot rely on Kieth Van Horn or a Stackhouse to be clutch can you?

When and if the Mavs ever take a playoff series from the Spurs, or if they don't and go another route in the playoff and end up beating a team that has beat the Spurs in the playoffs then comeback and talk some smack.

If not prepare to take your usual fishing trip in the early summer - as there is only a very slim chance your team, for all its strengths (but still having critical weaknesses) goes farther than the Spurs.

[GoSpurs21]

mouse you enjoy the 30+ running up the score after the game is over bullshit from that little jackass AJ. Us Spurs fans will enjoy knocking out the mavs once again in the playoffs on our way to yet another championship

[phyzik]

look brah let's put it another way, Your son is in a Karate match and some kid from another town whips his ass everytime they meet, You think all the trophys your son has really matters? You don't think your son would like to one day beat that kid? or does your son wait outside and when the other boy comes out he starts a chant " I have more trophys I have more trophys" Is that the kind of kid that makes you proud?

you think that kid that has scoreboard on your son gives a rats ass how many trophys you have in your house? All he cares about is that when your kid steps on the mat that he kicks his creamy white wonderbread ass all over the ring

Maybe you should have taken your own advice before coming in here parading around like the Mavericks are the next best thing after just one game. YOUR acting like the "bad winner" kid who looses and looses then when he finally wins one he goes and rubs it in everyones face. You can have your regular season game trophy if you want.

[mouse]

mouse you enjoy the 30+ running up the score after the game is over bullshit from that little jackass AJ. Us Spurs fans will enjoy knocking out the mavs once again in the playoffs on our way to yet another championship

Bro are you sure your talking about the 2005-2006 Dallas Mavericks?

That is all so last season, I am talking about this season, and from what I, and 100 Million NBA fans know all ready, is that the Spurs are no match for Dallas this season, and it looks like it bothers many folks in this forum to admit that.

I had no idea how deep the Denile , and Homerizum that is so rampid in this forum, it's really beyond human comprehension.

ps: Google: Homerizum look what forum is on top of the


http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=Homerizum&btnG=Google+Search


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[Rescueone]

The next Dallas game is 1 Dec at Dallas. It's still early in the season. One can not say the Mavs Own the Spurs after one game. There's still three games left to play this season, plus the post season if they meet up. This makes me laugh at the Mavs fans who think after beating the Spurs one game in NOVEMBER, now they are Paper Champions. Go ahead and gloat about being up 1-0. The Spurs will wait until it really matters to take your glory and send the Mavs back to the drawing board. When the Mavs beat the Spurs 8 straight including the playoffs then and only then will I fess up to the Spurs being owned by the Mavs. Since hell hasn't frozen over I don't see that happening any time soon. I guess in this theory, the Jazz own the Mavs since Dallas lost to them already. How did Dallas lose to Philly? All they have is AI. Explain to me how the Mavs are going to get out of the second round this year. That's what I want to know. Make it to the finals before you go braging about your team owning another after one victory!

[Mavs<Spurs]

Translation: I have no idea how the Spurs can beat the Dallas Mavericks so I will just babble on and hope it sounds good:lmao


Bro you have talent , you must be an attorney, after all it sounds good what your saying, but somehow watching the Dallas Mavericks beat the Spurs by 32 points is more than your silver tongue can do to make people forget that night, If the Spurs were to beat the Mavericks by 32 point I would give you props and move on, why can't you do the same?

The reason is? under all the those layers of BS you have wrapped around your bandwagon body? at the core of your lonely empty soul? lies the truth and the truth is your embarrassed to look in the mirror knowing at the end of the day, and after all the NBA dust settles ? the Dallas Mavericks still has scoreboard on your Manu flopping spurs, and that is something your high price attorney mouth can never change...................


Mouse, your entire argument is based upon one game, at your home arena, early in the season as the second of a back to back game after we had just beat the Cavs by a lot.

You can't make these kinds of leaps of logic. When you do, I'm gonna call you on it.

You are trying to move the goal posts. It's unreasonable and I'm going to point it out.

First, you are the one who started this thread and began with your contentions. They included the ones that I laid out above: (1) the Spurs probably won't make the playoffs (2) the Mavs are better than the Spurs and (3) the Mavs will advance beyond the Spurs.

If you come onto our website and are going to make these claims, then we have a right to expect compelling evidence to support these claims.

These claims are without foundation. They are based upon one single win.

The Mavs beating the Spurs at the beginning of the season in a single game at home in a back to back game after the Spurs won easily over the Cavs does not prove that the Mavs are better than the Spurs or can beat the Spurs on a regular basis.

The Bobcats beat the Pacers by 30 points the other night. Does this mean that you think that the Bobcats are better than the Pacers?

The Pistons beat us in game 4 by better than 30 points. However, we won the series.

What's more reasonable: to base a conclusion over a large, more representative sample of games or to base a conclusion upon a single game?

Clearly, it is more reasonable to base a conclusion over a broader sample of work.

If I wanted to take an accurate poll (for example Hillary Clinton vs Jeanine Pirro for NY senate), should I just ask a single person? Or should I ask a registered voter? Or should I ask a likely voter? Or should I ask a bunch of likely voters?

You are trying to stack the deck in your favor. It's transparent. Nobody who didn't have an axe to grind would approach this issue in the way that you have.

You say that we can't use evidence from the past 8 years because in the past. Yet, it apparently does not bother you that the game you are using is in the past also. All evidence is necessarily from the past by the very nature of the case. Or do you waver back and forth depending upon who is winning at a certain point? If the Hawks are beating the Mavs at a certain point in the game, do you really believe that the Hawks are the better team?

No, so clearly you and all people must use evidence from the past. It is considered special pleading when you make a rule in an argument (example you can't use evidence from the past) that other people must follow, but which you can ignore whenever it is an inconvenient rule for you.

It is considered hasty generalization when you take a single example and extrapolate wildly, outside of the conditions in which the Mavs won.



Furthermore, a reasonable person would find it makes sense to consider what the Spurs have done in the recent past to the extent that the Spurs this year are largely the same as they were last year and given the consistency of the excellence of this team.

The Lakers won 3 straight championships. Very impressive. However, one could say that it would be unreasonable to expect them to do as well last year, despite their previous success. The reason is obvious: Shaq was the best player for the Lakers and he was traded to the Heat. So, the Lakers were a substantially different team.

On the other hand, this is substantially the same team that won it all last year.

Undoubtedly, Tim Duncan has been the key player for the Spurs since he has been on the team. The Spurs hold great records against many teams that date back to the beginning of his tenure. His achievements bear this out.
Therefore, to evaluate the current Spurs team, it is appropriate to look at his entire body of work.

Furthermore, this is almost the identical same team which won it all last year.



Let's quickly summarize the points made so far: (1) this is the Spurs site (not the Mavs), (2) you are a troll bashing the Spurs and produce precious little evidence to do so (3) the burden of proof is upon you to make manifest the truthfulness of your assertions (4) the only so called evidence to back up your conclusion is a single game in relatively unique conditions (5) your logic is flawed (special pleading, hasty generalization) (6) you have tried to move the goal posts by defining what is acceptable evidence (7) It is reasonable for a person to evaluate this Spurs team based upon the previous eight years and especially upon the last 3 years since Tim Duncan is and has always been the focal point of the team since he arrived, the core group of players on the 2003 team are substantially the same and the team is virtually identical as the 2005 team which won the title.



As a result, if we are to compare the Mavs and the Spurs, we must compare their records and achievements over the last eight years. This is an argument that you cannot win.

Your positions defy common sense and are so artificially selective in choosing relevant evidence that what you are doing is nothing more than being a troll who ignorantly swings wildly at that thing high and above him which is greater than he will ever know.

Whether I am or am not a lawyer is irrelevant. This is common sense based upon an overwhelming amount of facts that are commonly known.

What is really getting old is trumpeting your win in the third game of the season in your home arena...

Who won the third game of the season last year between the Heat and the Grizzlies? Who remembers? Who cares? BTW, they didn't actually play each other then.

Your evidence:

one game
third game of the season
in Dallas
after Spurs played a back to back
after Spurs beat the Cavs badly

Our evidence

(1) This is substantially the same team as the 2003-2005 San Antonio Spurs
(2) This team has the same main player as the 1999 Spurs
(3) Therefore, it is relevant to consider evidence from the entire Tim Duncan era
(4) Tim Duncan is first team All NBA defense, has been every year in the league
(5) Tim Duncan is a member of the first team NBA All Star, has been every year
(6) Tim Duncan was the rookie of the year
(7) Tim Duncan won the regular season MVP twice, the only player in the league which that is true of
(8) Tim Duncan has won the Finals MVP 3 times which only Shaq, Michael and Magic have also done. Nobody else.
(9) In the Tim Duncan era, the Spurs have the highest winning percentage in any of the four major professional sports.
(10) The Spurs have won 3 championships, including last year
(11) The Spurs have 2 first team All NBA defense and Ginobili could make that team as well.
(12) The Spurs have been over the last eight years one of the best defensive teams in the league
(13) This same Spurs team, substantially as currently constituted, held opponents to the fewest points last year (10 % of this year's season has been played- so, it is insufficient evidence, Pistons are not even near the top in defensive categories either at this point. However, only an idiot thinks that the Pistons and the Spurs have been displaced as the preeminent defensive teams in the league), lowest opp field goal % last year (substantially the same team and similar results over the last 8 years compels the admissibility of this evidence), 3 lowest opp field goal % (see parenthetical comments above)... Defense wins championships and this team is a great defensive team (see parenthetical comments above)
(14) A group of 20 sportswriters and journalists recently polled produced a consensus that Tim Duncan is the best power forward of all time
(15) Have the Mavs reached the WCF ever? When?
(16) Have the Mavs beaten the Spurs in the Tim Duncan era in the playoffs? When? What is their record?
(17) What is the record between the Mavs and the Spurs during the Tim Duncan era?
(18) Precisely how many titles have the Mavs won?
(19) Who has a better record in the Tim Ducan era, the Spurs or the Mavs?
(20) I don't know of any well respected, objective, unbiased basketball analyst who believes any of your positions. Even if such people exist, they are decidedly in the minority.

Therefore, mouse, you are a rat in a trap.

Quit promoting the flat earth theory.

Stop using special pleading. Stop employing hasty generalization.

Stop trolling here. Go to the Mavs site if you want to be a Mavs homer and bash the Spurs. Be respectful. I don't come into your house and spit on your wife. So, don't keep throwing all of these lies around. Otherwise, I will ask Kori to post that video of you celebrating the Spurs championship.

[SequSpur]

Mouse is a toolshed.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Mouse is a toolshed.

Mouse is a troll. He's rude, obnoxious and a jerk. He should stick to the Mavs site. From what Kori said about the video, it appears that he is a liar and a hypocrite too.

[Bloodline666]

Maybe I'll start taking Mouse's comments seriously...just MAYBE...
















































































WHEN THE MAVS FINALLY REACH THE NBA FINALS!

[mavsfan1000]

Mouse is a troll. He's rude, obnoxious and a jerk. He should stick to the Mavs site. From what Kori said about the video, it appears that he is a liar and a hypocrite too.

If you can't handle mouse's comments than stop posting to bring him back. You should stfu.

[Mavs<Spurs]

If you can't handle mouse's comments than stop posting to bring him back. You should stfu.

I don't go onto the Mavs forum and troll there. If I did, I would not be surprised if Mavs fans resented it and told me that they didn't appreciate it. Certainly, there would be nothing wrong, in that situation, if they said something about it.

This is a Spurs forum/discussion board. The solution is that Mouse stops trolling here. When he does troll here, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with me saying something about it.

Mouse began this by trolling. He is the person who is the cause of the problem. We are simply pointing out that he is an unwelcome troll.

What part of this don't you understand?

What somebody acts like a jerk, why do you get hostile when he is called on it?

[Mavs<Spurs]

If you can't handle mouse's comments than stop posting to bring him back. You should stfu.


Just wanted to let you know, idiot, that this is not your team's discussion board since apparently you can't figure that out!

[Mavs<Spurs]

Mouse is a rude and unwelcome troll.

Oh, did I hurt your feelings Mavsfan1000 by posting that Mouse is a rude and unwelcome troll on the Spurs discussion board/forum after Mouse trolls here instead of either sticking to the Mavs site or at least being reasonably polite at our discussion board?

Too bad. Deal with it. I'll do it whenever I want to. If you don't like it, go to the Mavs site.

Got it?

[Bloodline666]

I don't go onto the Mavs forum and troll there. If I did, I would not be surprised if Mavs fans resented it and told me that they didn't appreciate it. Certainly, there would be nothing wrong, in that situation, if they said something about it.

This is a Spurs forum/discussion board. The solution is that Mouse stops trolling here. When he does troll here, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with me saying something about it.

Mouse began this by trolling. He is the person who is the cause of the problem. We are simply pointing out that he is an unwelcome troll.

What part of this don't you understand?

What somebody acts like a jerk, why do you get hostile when he is called on it?
Well said! This is Spurs-fan turf! You don't see us going to a Phoenix Suns/Dallas Mavs/Detroit Pistons/Miami Heat message board and trolling over there, do you? No! Therefore, don't do it to here, and you'll be just fine.

[hussker]

Mouse=troll=several other names here=pissing you off which is the mouse's job=he is likely a spursfan=just has a life of bordom and wants to stir up the pot=who cares about justifying the Spurs...they do it well enough themselves.

GO SPURS GO!
Mouse needs a house...cya!

[leemajors]

give him some credit, he has way more than several names.

[mouse]

Ok let me get this straight. In order for a person who lives in San Antonio who in on the www, and wants to talk to other Spur fans, has to be a Spurs fan in order to talk to others? or to have the right to post at that site?

I had no idea, I never knew that was one of the rules when I signed up, I wish Kori or another moderator could have told me before I racked up 8,000 posts.

So if a laker fan who lives in San Antonio and goes to many GTGs , and knows many posters from Spurs Talk, still has no right to post at this site? how do they talk about match ups etc? Should they use their cell phone and have a Spurs fan post what they said? Or do we have to use the United States postal service and mail our thoughts to kori and she will paste them in here? I really would like to know how this web site works, before I continue any further, and I apologize for any rules I may have broken.

[SequSpur]

Mouse,

You just happen to be full of shit when it comes to the Spurs vs. Mavericks.

If this would happen on any other team fan forum, you probably wouldn't get away with your antics and most likely neither would I.

The Mavericks in comparison to the Spurs have never accomplished shit. Check the scoreboard. And yes........ past history counts.

Late.

[Suns Fan]

Does this mean I have to leave also?

[mugatu]

This is good mind numbing exercise as I have a presentation in one of my graduate classes in math that I am giving tomorrow.



How can you teach math? when you don't think losing by 32 points is a big deal? Is it cuz it's not a prime number?

what number would you consider an ass kicking?

[mouse]

So.... let me get this straight....

You want us to provide you with proof on how the Spurs will beat the Mavericks,
Is that to much to ask? after 8 pages you would think at least one Spur fan could show me proof.



when we point to the fact that Spurs have 3 championships

Brah! do you read my posts? I said I wanted to talk to Spur fans who don't resort to pulling out the "count the rings!!" card, It is starting to get old already,





AND the Dallas Mavericks are a repeat second round exit team, you say that isnt valid enough proof? :huh


The Mavericks came back to beat the Rockets after being down to enter the second round, The Spurs back in 2000 or so lost in the first round to the Suns so I wouldn't be bringing up the past unless you bring up all the past.


So.... by your logic.... in a murder case, there is undeniable and undisputable proof the defendant killed someone a year ago, but since thats the past it is invalid?

new season, means new trial, sorry I didn't make the rules.

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like Adam Sandler trying to have an in-depth conversation with "Ten Second Tom" of 50 First Dates.

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like trying to get Rainman off the subject.

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like arguing with that kid that always says, "I know you are but what am I?"

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like arguing with Sybil.

[mouse]

Trying to get A Spurs fan to say "The Mavericks kicked our ass" is like trying to get Bush to bring our troops home.

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like trying to teach your grandma how to play golf.

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like driving the other way in a NASCAR race.

[mouse]

Arguing with mouse is like trying to teach your grandma how to play golf.

That's why I gave up and made your Granny my Caddy.

[SequSpur]

Trying to get A Spurs fan to say "The Mavericks kicked our ass" is like trying to get Bush to bring our troops home.

The Mavericks did kick the shit of the Spurs. The last 2 regular season games that were played.

But the next game the Spurs were introduced as the Champions again and it was forgotten.

Even if the Spurs don't win this year and lets say Detroit does.

Guess what? It's still Spurs 3, Dallas 0.

Woopty ding dong do.

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like trying to pick up a ball bearing inside a valvoline can.

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like trying to teach your pet rock to talk.

[mouse]

The Mavericks did kick the shit of the Spurs. The last 2 regular season games that were played.

But the next game the Spurs were introduced as the Champions again and it was forgotten.

Even if the Spurs don't win this year and lets say Detroit does.

Guess what? It's still Spurs 3, Dallas 0.

Woopty ding dong do.


If everyone felt that way, this topic would not have 8 pages, face it ! Spur fans are pissed the Mavericks OWNED! them this season, and it's to much for them to accept.

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like trying to play against a bunch of little kids at the basketball court on the 7 foot goals.

[mouse]

Arguing with mouse is like trying to teach your pet rock to talk.

But when the rock does talk? it will make more sense than 99% of the Igmos in here.

[milkyway21]

arguing with mouse i like arguing with a kid who wants to join the Quiz Bee but you can't let him because his IQ is zero.

:cuss

[Solid D]

Arguing with mouse is like expecting your goldfish to feed himself.

[SequSpur]

If everyone felt that way, this topic would not have 8 pages, face it ! Spur fans are pissed the Mavericks OWNED! them this season, and it's to much for them to accept.

I am not pissed at all. I know the outcome at the end of the season.

http://www.eaglesfield.com/fisherman_pics/fishing_award.jpg

Mavs 10th Straight Championship.

[Solid D]

Arguing with Tonto is easy, just keep passing him the peace pipe and fire water.

:rollin

[Solid D]

http://images.animationfactory.com/imagedir/animations/animals/dogs/big_headed_tiny_dog_chasing_tail/big_headed_tiny_dog_chasing_tail_lg_wm.gif

[T Park.]

You guys are funny :lol But lets be honest, we can't beat the Dallas Mavericks and after 8 pages? no one here has proved otherwise.

[mavsfan1000]

You guys are funny :lol But lets be honest, we can't beat the Dallas Mavericks and after 8 pages? no one here has proved otherwise.

You're so right T Park. :lmao

[Solid D]

Great, now mouse's fake T Park (T Park.) chimes in.

[Solid D]

(knock, knock, knock at the front door)

Sybil: Sybil!!!! Will you please answer the door?
Sybil: Why do I always have to answer the door? You're closer.
Sybil: Because she's older than you are.
Sybil: You stay out of this. This is between me and Sybil.
Sybil: All ya'll make me sick. I'm farther away than all three of you but I guess I'll go ahead and answer the door.
Sybil: Who is it?
Sybil: It's Sybil, but she's here to see me, not ya'll.

[Solid D]

http://www.ongoing-tales.com/SERIALS/oldtime/FAIRYTALES/tar1.gif

mouse, is that you?

[Bloodline666]

Brah! do you read my posts? I said I wanted to talk to Spur fans who don't resort to pulling out the "count the rings!!" card, It is starting to get old already,
Guess what? It's an undisputed FACT that the defending champs REMAIN THE CHAMPIONS until they are ELIMINATED from the playoffs, whether before or during the postseason.

Oh, and talk to me when the Mavs beat the last undefeated team standing in the NBA this season...You guys get to face them on the one-year anniversary of the fight! Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself in the American Airlines Center 365 days later.

[mavsfan1000]

This has nothing to do with the matchup with the Pistons who are in the east. If the mavs lose they still beat San Antonio.

[milkyway21]

This has nothing to do with the matchup with the Pistons who are in the east. If the mavs lose they still beat San Antonio.you know when you're struggling and eventually KNOCKED DOWN by the Suns in the last playoffs I remember your lips are sealed and you seemed lost. Check your posts.

if there's one team out there who is WORTHY OF comparing with the Champs it's the Lakers or the Pistons BECAUSE THEY WON A TITLE. NOT THE DALLAS MAVERICKS.

YOU'RE STILL NOT IN the list of the ELITE TEAMS OF THE NBA.

NOBODY will ever remember the LOSERS.

You still have a long way to prove you belong there.

Wake up, Dallas Maverick fans!

[5ToolMan]

You'll see Finley in his last 2 playoffs played like crap. Maybe he had a good 2003 playoffs but ever since than was a disappearing act.

If I remember, some ignorant Laker fans spewed the same bitter BS about an overworked Horry's last two years. Shame on them, after all he had done for them. Like Horry, Finley will be GREAT with fresh legs in June. And you will still be a bitter Mavs fan. :smokin

[mavsfan1000]

you know when you're struggling and eventually KNOCKED DOWN by the Suns in the last playoffs I remember your lips are sealed and you seemed lost. Check your posts.

if there's one team out there who is WORTHY OF comparing with the Champs it's the Lakers or the Pistons BECAUSE THEY WON A TITLE. NOT THE DALLAS MAVERICKS.

YOU'RE STILL NOT IN the list of the ELITE TEAMS OF THE NBA.

NOBODY will ever remember the LOSERS.

You still have a long way to prove you belong there.

Wake up, Dallas Maverick fans!

I also remember that Finley was the main cause of Dallas losing that series. He sucks and glad the spurs have him shooting bricks rather than Dallas. I don't miss him shooting 6-18 in crucial games. Now Daniels and Stackhouse will prove how good they are if given a chance.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Arguing with mouse is like trying to teach your pet rock to talk.

It's like trying to talk with a deaf person about Mozart or discussing the work of Van Gogh with a blind man.

These people are just proponents of basketball's version of the flat earth theory.

[George W. Bush]

I guess you guys can stop with the repeat talk, Hell you can't even get past the Wizards , and yet you want to be the 2006 NBA Champions?


I pray to GOD you at least make it to the Playoffs. I want to see another 32 point ass waxing by the Mighty Mighty Dallas Mavericks.


Face it! This team is nowhere near Playoff material. So before you talk bad about the Dallas maveicks look at your own team, It's in very serious trouble.



Hey Mr. Mouse, I'll give you a million dollars if you get a job.


Safest Investment EVAR!

[mavsfan1000]

Hey Mr. Mouse, I'll give you a million dollars if you get a job.


Safest Investment EVAR!

Mouse is the shit.

[Spursman]

I predict another repeat for the Mavs. i.e. a non-title winning year.

[mavsfan1000]

I predict another repeat for the Mavs. i.e. a non-title winning year.

I predict that you don't know what's going to happen.

[SequSpur]

mouse is a tool and this topic is stupid and should be locked.

[mavsfan1000]

Man trolls don't get enough respect. It is hard god damn work trying to out talk spurs fans.

[SequSpur]

win a championship and we'll let you into the club. until then stfu and enjoy your regular season wins.

[milkyway21]

I also remember that Finley was the main cause of Dallas losing that series. He sucks and glad the spurs have him shooting bricks rather than Dallas. I don't miss him shooting 6-18 in crucial games. Now Daniels and Stackhouse will prove how good they are if given a chance.the only thing i can think of if Finley could be a liability to the Spurs is: HE IS USED TO THE DALLAS MAVERICK NO-DEFENSE PLAY and HAVE NO EXPERIENCE YET ON HOW TO PLAY IN FINALS SERIES. :lmao



:stfu


SPURS :owned DALLAS MAVS

[Rummpd]

Mice are an integral part of the food chain, just like the Mavs. They scamper around in their meaningless lives with a high metabolism, breed high hopes, and then one day they and their offspring just get suddenly eaten.

Spurs will be the alpha carnivore again when it matters, it is just part of the "circle of life".

[SequSpur]

Finley is like a poker chip, when the time is right you throw it down with another chip to get the bigger pot that will give you the chip lead.

[Puppy Dog]

Finley is good, but this ain't 1996...

[mavsfan1000]

Finley is good, but this ain't 1996...

Finally someone who isn't blinded by homerism. He is not the same player and you will figure it out over time. He needs alot of shots to get in a rhythm and is not a consistent shooter. You need to check up on finley's recent history.

[The Hustler]

Fin is a bench player. He'll play his role hit a shot here and there and then sit back down.

Gives us some depth on defense as well. No lose situation.

[mavsfan1000]

Fin is a bench player. He'll play his role hit a shot here and there and then sit back down.

Gives us some depth on defense as well. No lose situation.

Finley and defense? Now that is funny. :lol

[The Hustler]

Pop works wonders young one.

He got GlenRob to play D, member? you member. :lol

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah but he didn't play him much and was against the bigger small forwards that wouldn't be able to take advantage of his speed. It might work but Finley is not going to improve this team over last year. He isn't exactly energy coming off the bench like some players are.

[Extra Stout]

I can't believe people in this thread are formulating detailed, thought-out responses to mouse.

Do you also lecture your dog about why it is inappropriate for him to chew your shoes?

[Extra Stout]

Yeah but he didn't play him much and was against the bigger small forwards that wouldn't be able to take advantage of his speed. It might work but Finley is not going to improve this team over last year. He isn't exactly energy coming off the bench like some players are.
I love it. If the Mavs still had Finley, he'd be the cagey veteran leader who makes clutch shots.

But on the Spurs, he's washed-up dog poop. Of course.

Oh well, a healthy Spurs team without Finley still can win 80% of their games. If all this crappy third-string-caliber Michael Finley can do is chew up minutes and keep Ginobili and Barry fresher, that's still a contribution.

[mavsfan1000]

That's all Finley usually will do with an occasional game where he gets hot. Maybe 1 out of every 5 games that happens. I agree that the spurs don't need Finley and are probably better with Finley getting limited minutes.

[Victor Newman]

Looks like Spurs fans are starting to accept the fact there will be no REPEAT this year, about time you all come clean.

[Triumph]

Do you also lecture your dog about why it is inappropriate for him to chew your shoes?


so what are you saying man, your Too Good to talk to you dog?

I poop on you.

[Triumph]

Looks like Spurs fans are starting to accept the fact there will be no REPEAT this year, about time you all come clean.

you know what Vic?

my poop has as many rings as the mavericks do,

actually, more than the mavericks, i had to take 5 second restbreaks, and i ate heavy for thanksgiving.

[mavsfan1000]

Looks like Spurs fans are starting to accept the fact there will be no REPEAT this year, about time you all come clean.

:lmao: at mouse's post. It's obvious he is trying to piss off spurs fans. So far it is working. People actually take him seriously.