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Winehole23
05-22-2021, 11:57 PM
Worried about tensions over Taiwan:


“As the possibility of another nuclear crisis over Taiwan is being bandied about this very year, it seems very timely to me to encourage the public, Congress and the executive branch to pay attention to what I make available to them,” he said about what he characterized as “shallow” and “reckless” high-level discussions during the 1958 Taiwan Strait crisis.


He added, “I do not believe the participants were more stupid or thoughtless than those in between or in the current cabinet.”


Hopes to overturn Espionage Act


Most of the time, defendants strike plea deals to avoid long sentences, so there is no appeal. The Supreme Court has not confronted questions about whether the law’s wording or application trammels First Amendment rights.


Saying the Justice Department should charge him for his open admission that he disclosed the classified study about the Taiwan crisis without authorization, Mr. Ellsberg said he would handle his defense in a way that would tee the First Amendment issues up for the Supreme Court.


“I will, if indicted, be asserting my belief that what I am doing — like what I’ve done in the past — is not criminal,” he said, arguing that using the Espionage Act “to criminalize classified truth-telling in the public interest” is unconstitutional.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/22/us/politics/nuclear-war-risk-1958-us-china.html

pgardn
05-23-2021, 12:03 AM
"All options are on the table"

Scares the hell out of me.
I hate the phrase.

ElNono
05-23-2021, 12:05 AM
Back when we used to nuke civilians... good times...

Thread
05-23-2021, 07:12 AM
Back when we used to nuke civilians... good times...

...though it did indeed put a stopper in the bottle on Sunday morning wake-up calls, by God.

hater
05-23-2021, 09:17 AM
Back when we used to nuke civilians... good times...

Now we just drone them tbqh

ElNono
05-23-2021, 03:52 PM
...though it did indeed put a stopper in the bottle on Sunday morning wake-up calls, by God.

Been wondering if the same literal "shock and awe" would work in the Middle East, tbh

DMC
05-23-2021, 06:05 PM
Been wondering if the same literal "shock and awe" would work in the Middle East, tbh

I would for a while, then the radiation would drift and shit would go sideways.

Winehole23
05-23-2021, 06:09 PM
^^^ incoherent, it must be tough to be unable to say what you mean

DMC
05-23-2021, 06:11 PM
^^ Salty as fuck :lol

Winehole23
05-23-2021, 06:15 PM
^^ Salty as fuck :lolyou still can't say what you mean. it's kinda pathetic, tbh.

daboom1
05-23-2021, 06:30 PM
:tu

ElNono
05-23-2021, 07:27 PM
I would for a while, then the radiation would drift and shit would go sideways.

That's ok, good excuse to keep the US away from the area.

Winehole23
05-23-2021, 08:04 PM
Eisenhower put the kibosh on that bullshit.