View Full Version : Mavs haven’t won a playoff series in 10 years
SASdynasty!
05-26-2021, 09:31 AM
Hard to believe we almost lost to them in 2014. Thanks to TP for bailing us out in G7 per par.
Chucho
05-26-2021, 10:07 AM
Safe bet: Doncic fails more often in the POs than Dirk did.
dbestpro
05-26-2021, 01:22 PM
Kings have not been in 15 years. Record is 17 held by Kings and Charlotte. Kings should go back to Cincinnati.
Kings have not been in 15 years. Record is 17 held by Kings and Charlotte. Kings should go back to Cincinnati.
Imagine beating your own record for absolute failure. That's gotta be rough
JeffDuncan
05-26-2021, 01:52 PM
Kings have not been in 15 years. Record is 17 held by Kings and Charlotte. Kings should go back to Cincinnati.
Kansas City. Not that it matters.
Texas_Ranger
05-26-2021, 02:04 PM
In 9 years you will be able to say the same about another franchise with a Luka.
JeffDuncan
05-26-2021, 02:10 PM
In 9 years you will be able to say the same about another franchise with a Luka.
Except, if our Luka is still with the team in 9 years he’ll still be 2 years away from starting.
FutureMan
05-26-2021, 02:20 PM
Kansas City. Not that it matters.
Technically both would be correct. Funny enough I’ve been thinking recently how both of them should get teams if they expand past 30 or 32 teams
JeffDuncan
05-26-2021, 02:42 PM
Technically both would be correct. Funny enough I’ve been thinking recently how both of them should get teams if they expand past 30 or 32 teams
Well, they were the Royals in Cincinnati, but again, it doesn’t matter. I see they were the NBA champs in 1951 when they were in Rochester. Coach Pop was 2 years old when the Royals/Kings won the championship.
SAGirl
05-26-2021, 04:42 PM
Except, if our Luka is still with the team in 9 years he’ll still be 2 years away from starting.
Not going to lie, this was very funny.
:lol
GreekSpursfan
05-26-2021, 05:33 PM
I can still see the Mavs choking and losing to the Clippers in 7 games
Texas_Ranger
05-26-2021, 05:47 PM
I can still see the Mavs choking and losing to the Clippers in 7 games
its expected for the Clippers to win. I wouldnt say it will be a choke even if they are up 2-0. Perhaps if they go up 3-0 and then lose.
mo7888
05-26-2021, 06:23 PM
its expected for the Clippers to win. I wouldnt say it will be a choke even if they are up 2-0. Perhaps if they go up 3-0 and then lose.
Being up 2-0 with both wins on the road and then lose a series would qualify as a choke in my book. If they had won those 1st two at home I'd agree..
lefty20
05-26-2021, 06:44 PM
Hard to believe we almost lost to them in 2014. Thanks to TP for bailing us out in G7 per par.
Mavs should thank TP and Nephew for even making it to G7. Pretty much everyone besides Manu and Tiago shit the bed in games 1-6, tbh.
Arcadian
05-26-2021, 08:07 PM
So they haven't won a series since their championship? Damn, lol
spurs will probably get there so i think this thread might backfire
paperboy77
05-26-2021, 10:15 PM
Kings have not been in 15 years. Record is 17 held by Kings and Charlotte. Kings should go back to Cincinnati.
Everything Cincy is boring. KC Kings maybe.
exstatic
05-27-2021, 12:07 PM
vancouver
No. The Grizz had awful support there. It was so bad that the NBA agreed to surrender 50% of their Canada beachhead.
GreekSpursfan
05-28-2021, 09:51 AM
Being up 2-0 with both wins on the road and then lose a series would qualify as a choke in my book. If they had won those 1st two at home I'd agree..
I agree, you win two games on the road and lose the series? Its a choke job
SASdynasty!
06-02-2021, 06:45 AM
Mavs should thank TP and Nephew for even making it to G7. Pretty much everyone besides Manu and Tiago shit the bed in games 1-6, tbh.
Lol, what?
Tony Parker: 20 ppg on 47%
Manu Ginobili: 18 ppg on 45%
Tim Duncan: 17 ppg on 58%
GreekSpursfan
06-02-2021, 07:46 AM
I have this weird feeling that the Mavs will pull this off, i think they're gonna win tonight. Carlisle is gonna figure something out.
pad300
06-02-2021, 09:24 AM
I have this weird feeling that the Mavs will pull this off, i think they're gonna win tonight. Carlisle is gonna figure something out.
I wouldn't be surprised. Having the best player in the series (Luka > current Kwitter) is always a good start on winning it...
look_at_g_shred
06-02-2021, 10:11 AM
I have this weird feeling that the Mavs will pull this off, i think they're gonna win tonight. Carlisle is gonna figure something out.
Luka is maybe 50% and their shooters have gone COLD. This ends in 6.
Leetonidas
06-02-2021, 11:51 AM
Back door sweep incoming
GreekSpursfan
06-02-2021, 12:05 PM
I wouldn't be surprised. Having the best player in the series (Luka > current Kwitter) is always a good start on winning it...
Kawhi is better than Luka when he wants to play defense because Luka usually doesn't play on that end but Carlisle is a better coach than Lue and that helps.
GreekSpursfan
06-02-2021, 12:07 PM
Luka is maybe 50% and their shooters have gone COLD. This ends in 6.
There is a chance their shooters get hot again and playoff P becomes No show P and there is Carlisle who's clearly better than Lue, he gonna come up with something new.
LaMarcus Bryant
06-02-2021, 12:08 PM
Are the clippers even legit this year? Paul George is easily most overrated stat stuffer of this era. Or is it just the Mavs were over hyped
Texas_Ranger
06-02-2021, 12:24 PM
Are the clippers even legit this year? Paul George is easily most overrated stat stuffer of this era. Or is it just the Mavs were over hyped
they could come out of the west tbh, but I dont see them being champs. I also dont know who hyped the Mavs. Its clear as day that that team is Luka and a bunch of Gleaguers. They can get hot, but just as that they also get cold and shit the bed for weeks. Most of the 3s they were making were also just cause of Luka passing to these scrubs or cause he was double teamed.
timtonymanu
06-02-2021, 11:47 PM
I have this weird feeling that the Mavs will pull this off, i think they're gonna win tonight. Carlisle is gonna figure something out.
GOAT take tbh
weeks
06-03-2021, 12:20 AM
I have this weird feeling that the Mavs will pull this off, i think they're gonna win tonight. Carlisle is gonna figure something out.
it was the boban
GreekSpursfan
06-03-2021, 01:48 AM
GOAT take tbh
Carlisle gave us fits for years, Lue is easy work for him tbh
GreekSpursfan
06-03-2021, 01:51 AM
it was the boban
It helped that Kawhi, No-show P and playoff Rondo lol, turn the ball over so many times.
PrimeMinister
06-03-2021, 08:28 AM
Luka was obviously hurt for most of the games in Dallas.
he came out early in game 5 and looked like his normal self. The losses had nothing to do with adjustments on the clippers part, and everything to do with the best player on the floor not being himself.
If Luka is good to go the mavs are a better team.
GreekSpursfan
06-03-2021, 10:28 AM
Luka was obviously hurt for most of the games in Dallas.
he came out early in game 5 and looked like his normal self. The losses had nothing to do with adjustments on the clippers part, and everything to do with the best player on the floor not being himself.
If Luka is good to go the mavs are a better team.
I disagree, Kawhi is the better player when healthy and in good conditioning and it's pretty obvious that kawhi's body isn't ready for playoffs due to his lingering ingury and his lack of preparation because of it and it seems that it's gonna get worse going forward because i see no great stamina for a top bball player and when that happens he's not a two way player any more. Having said that, Clippers gonna win game 6
dbestpro
06-03-2021, 10:55 AM
Kawhi was the better player. Luca has passed him by.
R. DeMurre
06-03-2021, 11:01 AM
Pretty ballsy of Carlisle to play Boban and Porzingis at the same time a little. I don't think it worked per se, but it gave the Clips something to adjust to & worry about, and then when Powell subbed in for Boban the Mavs went on that incredible run to end the 3rd quarter.
TDomination
06-03-2021, 11:49 AM
Luka was obviously hurt for most of the games in Dallas.
he came out early in game 5 and looked like his normal self. The losses had nothing to do with adjustments on the clippers part, and everything to do with the best player on the floor not being himself.
If Luka is good to go the mavs are a better team.
Exactly my thought. We'll see how game 6 turns out.
But this reminds me of everyone talking about how great of a comeback Golden State did in 2017 in Game 1 of the WCF after being down 23 pts. I'm like umm...you do realize the comeback had nothing to do with y'all "getting it together" and everything with Kawhi getting hurt.
This also reminds me of spurs/rockets 1995. every road team winning the first 5 games until game 6.
Texas_Ranger
06-03-2021, 12:02 PM
I disagree, Kawhi is the better player when healthy and in good conditioning and it's pretty obvious that kawhi's body isn't ready for playoffs due to his lingering ingury and his lack of preparation because of it and it seems that it's gonna get worse going forward because i see no great stamina for a top bball player and when that happens he's not a two way player any more. Having said that, Clippers gonna win game 6
put Kawhi od the mavs and they dont make the playoffs. Put Luka on Clippers and they're the same or even better. Luka is Dallas. Without him the only sure thing is that they are the worst team in the NBA. If Kawhi was in top form and still playing defense, then perhaps he'd be better, but as long as he's just a scorer he cant be better.
Mavericks OffRtg with Luka On Court: 124.7
Mavericks OffRtg with Luka Off Court: 36.4
That's a difference of 88.3 points per 100 possessions.
Anyway, i still think Clips win in 7, as Dallas just doesnt have enough fire power.
MultiTroll
06-03-2021, 12:22 PM
Pretty ballsy of Carlisle to play Boban and Porzingis at the same time a little. I don't think it worked per se, but it gave the Clips something to adjust to & worry about, and then when Powell subbed in for Boban the Mavs went on that incredible run to end the 3rd quarter.
Bitch ass refs letting Clippers swat and claw Boban was total bullshit.
MultiTroll
06-03-2021, 12:31 PM
That phucking up the 10 point lead tho.
Doncic looked tired the last 5 minutes. Mavs are soo clueless offensively without him.
Porzy with the lazy defense. :pctoss
Pulling for Mavs 100% but not discounting their ability to f up game 6 and 7.
MultiTroll
06-03-2021, 01:01 PM
Are the clippers even legit this year? Paul George is easily most overrated stat stuffer of this era. Or is it just the Mavs were over hyped
George with the bads on D at crucial time.
This following shot coming just after Playoff Pee turned the ball over (1 of 2 in a row). Clips had cut the lead from 13 to 4 and momentum was clearly in their favor.
I mean excellent shot by Hardaway, but look at George turn completely around and lose him, thus when Hardaway catches the ball he's got 6 feet between them
Stream Play of the Day: Tim Hardaway Jr. Here | NBA.com (https://www.nba.com/watch/video/play-of-the-day-tim-hardaway-jr?plsrc=nba&collection=must-see-highlights)
Texas_Ranger
06-03-2021, 01:28 PM
That phucking up the 10 point lead tho.
Doncic looked tired the last 5 minutes. Mavs are soo clueless offensively without him.
Porzy with the lazy defense. :pctoss
Pulling for Mavs 100% but not discounting their ability to f up game 6 and 7.
He will always be tired in the 4th, as he has to do everything to just keep Dallas in the game for 3/4. Some of it is also on him, cause he's still not in great shape. But on the end of the day, the Mavs need to get him a second option asap.
Sugus
06-03-2021, 01:45 PM
Luka was obviously hurt for most of the games in Dallas.
he came out early in game 5 and looked like his normal self. The losses had nothing to do with adjustments on the clippers part, and everything to do with the best player on the floor not being himself.
If Luka is good to go the mavs are a better team.
He was on a roll yesterday, it'll take another game like that and playing 40+m, but he's definitely able to step up and put the Clippers away. I don't know why many on this forum are already anointing the Clips as champions or even Finals presence, they're really vulnerable. I see Mavs in 7, but would love for them to close out next game. Hopefully Porzingis pulls his head out of his ass and acts like he's being paid 30M to play basketball, Luka has no help whatsoever.
Dejounte
06-03-2021, 01:48 PM
He was on a roll yesterday, it'll take another game like that and playing 40+m, but he's definitely able to step up and put the Clippers away. I don't know why many on this forum are already anointing the Clips as champions or even Finals presence, they're really vulnerable. I see Mavs in 7, but would love for them to close out next game. Hopefully Porzingis pulls his head out of his ass and acts like he's being paid 30M to play basketball, Luka has no help whatsoever.
It's the reverse jinx bro
diego
06-03-2021, 02:00 PM
He will always be tired in the 4th, as he has to do everything to just keep Dallas in the game for 3/4. Some of it is also on him, cause he's still not in great shape. But on the end of the day, the Mavs need to get him a second option asap.
I have more faith in Luka's stamina than kawhis legs... Would we really have been better last year or this year with kawhi on a super max, unavailable a quarter of the season and breaking down playing big minutes in the playoffs? It hurt because him and his uncle trashed everyone but I think spurs dodged a bullet tbh
Texas_Ranger
06-03-2021, 02:17 PM
I have more faith in Luka's stamina than kawhis legs... Would we really have been better last year or this year with kawhi on a super max, unavailable a quarter of the season and breaking down playing big minutes in the playoffs? It hurt because him and his uncle trashed everyone but I think spurs dodged a bullet tbh
even if Kawhi has a subpar game, I still trust more in Paul George than Porzingis, to show up. Doncic has to play like a god if the Mavs wanna win, while on the other side, Kawhi can have a weak game for his standards and the Clippers will still be in the game.
diego
06-03-2021, 02:29 PM
George is better than porzingis true, but Mavs are well coached and are playing their hearts out for Luka, end of the game last night he was tired and the scrubs came through while the clips roleplayers hit big shots as kawhi and pg fell apart.
Kawhi is just going to play worse with every game that passes, if he wasnt mute cancer id feel sorry for him, but regardless how I feel about it this pattern has been going since 2017- he loses strength after each game, as series pass, has amazing first half then fizzles ... his body just can't manage the load
Spurs Homer
06-03-2021, 02:40 PM
all i could think of at the start yesterday - was -
no fucking way pop would have played boban and porzy together - and the clippers would have blown pops team out while boban rotted on the bench
not even saying boban is the reason - but it changed the entire series after the clippers had gotten comfortable and assumed they KNEW how to beat the mavs and were just basically going with their game plan
until jim carey did some creative coaching
having two 7 footers in a zone was just disruptive enough
pop would have gone with mills/rudy while youngsters watched the mavs win the series...
hope he fucking retires
MultiTroll
06-03-2021, 02:43 PM
even if Kawhi has a subpar game, I still trust more in Paul George than Porzingis, to show up. Doncic has to play like a god if the Mavs wanna win, while on the other side, Kawhi can have a weak game for his standards and the Clippers will still be in the game.
This.
Even tho both teams made both great plays and boo boo's, the Clips incredibly were in a position to win. 2 fucking comebacks, one from 13 to start the 3th and then the hideous 10 point blown lead by the Mavs. Were it not for some stoopid plays by the Clippers they could have actually won while having an average game while Donny was you posted a godlike game.
I had not seen this before i posted above:
Anyway, i still think Clips win in 7, as Dallas just doesnt have enough fire power.
Concur. Clips can effectively seize momentum by winning Game 6. Of the two choking casts, i can see Mavcast choking in Game 7 more then Clippercast.
However, i in no way am pounding the table on this. Mavs can certainly win Game 7. Modern day NBA is highly unpredictable.
Do you also agree the refs hamstring Boban. Some of the calls against Boban were absolutely correct. But the double eye jab, that was some serious bullshit.
Sugus
06-03-2021, 03:19 PM
It's the reverse jinx bro
No way those posters are reverse-jinxing it, my guy :lol
But you're right, Clips definitely got this in the bag, winning next game for sure....
Dejounte
06-03-2021, 03:26 PM
No way those posters are reverse-jinxing it, my guy :lol
But you're right, Clips definitely got this in the bag, winning next game for sure....
The power of the reverse jinx is more powerful when it comes from genuine sources :bobo
daslicer
06-03-2021, 03:39 PM
all i could think of at the start yesterday - was -
no fucking way pop would have played boban and porzy together - and the clippers would have blown pops team out while boban rotted on the bench
not even saying boban is the reason - but it changed the entire series after the clippers had gotten comfortable and assumed they KNEW how to beat the mavs and were just basically going with their game plan
until jim carey did some creative coaching
having two 7 footers in a zone was just disruptive enough
pop would have gone with mills/rudy while youngsters watched the mavs win the series...
hope he fucking retires
I actually thought about that last night how Pop wouldn't make the adjustment of playing Boban/Porzingis together if he was in Carlisle's situation.
LaMarcus Bryant
06-03-2021, 03:45 PM
If Clippers dominate in game 7 this is gonna play out like 2014
I want to believe that but Paul George is such an overrated twat
Texas_Ranger
06-03-2021, 03:46 PM
Do you also agree the refs hamstring Boban. Some of the calls against Boban were absolutely correct. But the double eye jab, that was some serious bullshit.
Boban is being hit on arms, back or the head every time he gets under the rim. The refs just dont wanna call fouls, cause there is no way you can really stop him when he's under the rim, so they let defensive players hit him.
Texas_Ranger
06-03-2021, 03:50 PM
Highest Share of Field Goals Scored or Assisted by a Single Player in a Game, NBA History:
83.8% - Luka Doncic vs LAC, 6/2/21
83.7% - John Stockton vs HOU, 1/3/89
81.6% - Kevin Johnson vs DEN, 4/3/94
81.3% - LeBron James vs GSW, 6/14/15
80.6% - Allen Iverson vs NOH, 4/20/03
This was pretty much one of the greatest performances by an idividual in a playoffs game.
Spurs oman
06-03-2021, 04:06 PM
I know its not right but i love this dellas team ..
Luka and boban
And yea clippers are way overrated.
GreekSpursfan
06-03-2021, 04:10 PM
put Kawhi od the mavs and they dont make the playoffs. Put Luka on Clippers and they're the same or even better. Luka is Dallas. Without him the only sure thing is that they are the worst team in the NBA. If Kawhi was in top form and still playing defense, then perhaps he'd be better, but as long as he's just a scorer he cant be better.
Mavericks OffRtg with Luka On Court: 124.7
Mavericks OffRtg with Luka Off Court: 36.4
That's a difference of 88.3 points per 100 possessions.
Anyway, i still think Clips win in 7, as Dallas just doesnt have enough fire power.
I still think a healthy Kawhi is better because he plays defense while Luka doesn't. This kawhi doesn't look in good conditioning and it shows. You forget something else as well, while Luka is great he has a better coach than Kawhi at the moment. Carlisle is a lot better than Lue, its not even close. Healthy Kawhi with Dallas and Carlisle i think makes them even better than they are now, but Kawhi is a problematic player health wise.
MultiTroll
06-03-2021, 04:15 PM
Boban is being hit on arms, back or the head every time he gets under the rim. The refs just dont wanna call fouls, cause there is no way you can really stop him when he's under the rim, so they let defensive players hit him.
Exactly. So the refs effectively f him out of a basket and award the other team. And/or f him out of foul shots and the opponent racking up fouls.
TD 21
06-03-2021, 04:41 PM
I'm tired of hearing about supposed defensive impact among perimeter players, who are mostly dependant on their big. All that matters is that you're a non liability and Doncic, though athletically limited, is at least big, strong and a very good defensive rebounder.
No matter how good a perimeter defender you are, the league has basically outlawed perimeter defense and between that and the spacing, all Doncic has to do is call up his preferred defender, play screen and if necessary re-screen to get the switch and go to work. And even if the initial defender fights over multiple times, because of those things and his skill level, he's still basically uncontainable when his step back 3 is falling anyway.
So the gap in impact between his superior offense (shot profile + play making) is greater than the gap between Scumbag's and his initial defense.
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