What is the endgame for poor republiqans?

[DMC]

Dude, GOP leaders are meeting with at Trump at Mar A Lago. Lindsay Graham recently said it's still Trump's party.

147 House members voted not to certify the election afterr rioters made them scurry for their lives.

You've got your head in the sand.

Link?

[Winehole23]

Crime =/= overthrow of government. You have work to do to even get close to showing it was an overthrow attempt. Disrupt? Sure.. overthrow? hardly.. seeing Trump was the sitting POTUS and no one had a firearm other than the cap police. Hyperbole gets you in trouble every time.It was a violent attack on the government, aimed at preventing EC certification -- the peaceful transfer of power. That it failed or was inept doesn't matter. Mens rea.

Stop the steal.

[Winehole23]

Link?Don't mind if do.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4e/a0/de/4ea0defab601c0b2cb070f14a6897fef.jpg

[DMC]

It was a violent attack on the government, aimed at preventing EC certification -- the peaceful transfer of power. That it failed or was inept doesn't matter. Mens rea.

Stop the steal.

You're referring to the criminal aspect of the act. I already acknowledged it was a criminal act and even went so far as to say they should have been shot while storming the place. What you haven't shown is that it was an attempt to overthrow the federal government. It's a crime to walk up to to someone and grope them. It doesn't constitute rape though.

[DMC]

Don't mind if do.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4e/a0/de/4ea0defab601c0b2cb070f14a6897fef.jpg

Not bad. I would have toasted the bun and added sautéed onions.

[Winehole23]

You don't do fetch missions, why should I do one for you?

It's all easily checked if you're really curious, but you're not.

[baseline bum]

You're referring to the criminal aspect of the act. I already acknowledged it was a criminal act and even went so far as to say they should have been shot while storming the place. What you haven't shown is that it was an attempt to overthrow the federal government. It's a crime to walk to to someone and grope them. It doesn't constitute rape though.

Yeah it was just a coincidence they were saying they were there to hang Pence on January 6th.

[DMC]

Yeah it was just a coincidence they were saying they were there to hang Pence on January 6th.

No one tried to hang pence just like the "I smell bacon" people didn't try to burn the police alive.

Video Shows NYC Protesters Chanting for “Dead Cops”

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/eric-garner-manhattan-dead-cops-video-millions-march-protest/2015303/


Still doesn't amount to overthrowing the federal government. Having someone chanting doesn't equate to an attack.

[Winehole23]

You're referring to the criminal aspect of the act. I already acknowledged it was a criminal act and even went so far as to say they should have been shot while storming the place.The crowd was armed, and capol protectors very outnumbered. Escalation might have been suicide. Are you familiar with Mike Fannone?

[Winehole23]

wrong thread

[DMC]

You don't do fetch missions, why should I do one for you?

It's all easily checked if you're really curious, but you're not.

You're claiming it and you've posted a number of times with hearsay. I can just as easily dismiss your claims as bullshit, it's your call.

[DMC]

wrong thread

Weird, haven't said shit about you.

[Winehole23]

You're claiming it and you've posted a number of times with hearsay. I can just as easily dismiss your claims as bullshit, it's your call.You'd be mostly wrong, but be my guest.

[DMC]

You'd be mostly wrong, but be my guest.

Again, your call. If you cannot support your assertions then you don't really put much stock in them. Why should I?

[Winehole23]

I don't believe I'm a hypocrite for ignoring Madonna's ludicrous and completely unserious threat and pointing out DJT's real attempt to derail the certification of the 2020 election by the US Congress, no.

Beforehand, Trump lobbied the VP to set the EC results aside, after his attempts to corrupt state officials didn't work.


Before that, there were 59 completely evidence free election challenges. All of which were dismissed.


The Nevada ruling could have rested content with laches, but went beyond that to address the paucity of the evidence. Similar happened in Georgia and Wisconsin.


PA spanked his challenges too.


In 2020, Trump ran against the election as such.

He's still doing it.

[Winehole23]

and the GOP has his back

[Winehole23]

Bum rush the Senate, kill the presiding officer and anyone else you can get your hands on. It might have worked if the pipe bombs had gone off.

What do you think they were trying to do?

[Winehole23]

det stochastic violence, tho



I'd be happy to provide an updated list of recent extremism-related mass murders in the US upon request.

I presume you can provide one of recent left wing extremist massacres in the US, to show us it's exactly the same on both sides.

[DMC]

Must be off the wagon again. You've quoted yourself multiple times and you're talking 3rd space shit now.

[Winehole23]

Our state should not be able to vote in federal elections if this goes forward and becomes the norm.nah, Congress can nuke the filibuster and pass the For The People Act, if they have the ganas.

also, DOJ is watching.

[Winehole23]

Must be off the wagon again. You've quoted yourself multiple times and you're talking 3rd space shit now.you're not addressing any of it, but just talking about me.

[Winehole23]

I've never seen the GOP so attached to a loser.

[Winehole23]

Seems like you guys are attached.How can we miss him if he won't go away?

[boutons_deux]

A Sleepy Interregnum?

The Inauthentic Opposition Party of Filibusted Appeasement

The Trump Republicans are a neofascist party.

They sought to subvert and then nullify a presidential election under cult command of an authoritarian racist who encouraged talk of “civil war” and

instigated an attack on the US Capitol in an open attempt

to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s victory on the grounds of a Nazi-style Big Lie.

Four in ten Republicans polled by the American Enterprise Institute (https://www.americansurveycenter.org/research/after-the-ballots-are-counted-conspiracies-political-violence-and-american-exceptionalism/) after the Attack on the Capitol supported the use of violence to achieve political ends.

Eight in ten Republicans thought the American political system is “stacked against conservatives and people with traditional values.”

A majority of Republicans agreed with this statement:

“The traditional American way of life is disappearing so fast that we may have to use force to save it.”

Fifty percent of Republicans absurdly believe that something called “Antifa” was behind the January 6 Attack on the Capitol.

The malevolent monster in Mar a Lago will decide who his party runs or federal and even some state elections. His choices are all about allegiance to Him.

State election officials who certified Biden’s victory are being replaced (https://www.ajc.com/politics/politics-blog/a-surge-of-newcomers-pack-georgia-gop-meetings-across-state/UEDLCU5MIZDL7MVYSZT67HVZBY/) by Trump loyalists.

Republican legislators had introduced 361 bills to restrict voting rights in 47 states (https://www.salon.com/2021/04/02/gop-voting-restriction-push-grows-361-bills-in-47-states-at-least-70-in-texas-and-arizona/),

These are clear Amerikaner-fascist efforts to quash non-white and urban votes

passing droves of arch-reactionary bills meant to

suppress Black and LatinX voting,

criminalize liberal and left protest,

undermine COVID-19 protections, and

prevent educators from talking about racism (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/25/critical-race-theory-us-history-1619-project?fbclid=IwAR22AWSIyBYmw86s2WKBwQtJLyENUg14R E906fahZ56q0odZU9PJudqlqxo) in American history past and present.

“The Threat of Civil War Didn’t End with the Trump Presidency”:

“A significant chunk of the American electorate now resides in an alternative universe of facts about the nation’s elections

while continuing to share the same political space with the rest of the country.

What might that entail four and eight years from now?

Let’s assume for the sake of a thought experiment that the 2024 election pits Joe Biden against Trump or a Trumpist Republican,

that Biden prevails in the popular vote by a healthy margin,

that the Electoral College is decided by three states controlled by Republican officials where Biden prevailed by just a couple of percentage points, and

that the GOP controls a majority of the state delegations to the House of Representatives.

In this scenario, the three key state legislatures, citing unsubstantiated stories of election fraud,

refuse to certify the official slate of Democratic electors and appoint an alternative slate ready to vote for the Republican candidate.”

“This would throw the Electoral College into chaos, requiring the House to assume responsibility for the final outcome.

Republicans are favored to take control of the House in 2022,

but already they control a majority of the state delegations.

We’re all looking forward to our next great quadrennial electoral extravaganzas (https://chomsky.info/20041029/)!

The Democrats are part of the dystopian trajectory.

They are the GOP’s corporate neoliberal inauthentic opposition –

a neo-Weimar party of appeasement.

“It was as though Donald Trump had not, in the course of his campaign,

promised to deport US citizens,

promised to create a system of surveillance targeted specifically at Muslim Americans,

promised to build a wall on the border with Mexico,

advocated war crimes,

endorsed torture, and

repeatedly threatened to jail Hillary Clinton herself.

It was as though those statements and many more could be written off as so much campaign hyperbole and

now that the campaign was over, Trump would be eager to become a regular, rule-abiding politician of the pre-Trump era (emphasis added)”

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/05/28/a-sleepy-interregnum-the-inauthentic-opposition-party-of-filibusted-appeasement/

[boutons_deux]

https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/QuXvy__SQgs3FY44WECS1EqOHVXuvt-ZiLr_nYc1I_H9Yif_B_aVLkkFCsqZzqvCshLH-aZ_3uL1uZOADQRl6Cdb1ER1meqY8dmK4nbb7sAk43PJ_2iYgKA wGRiO6WXh8gd16NIyKQbfnt1YkqdMZGjJojwOiA=s0-d-e1-ft#https://images.axios.com/PB_dT3x6GHrkENHsmgmasjC4UiI=/fit-in/1116x1300/2021/05/31/1622463576509.png

[Frenchfred]

https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/QuXvy__SQgs3FY44WECS1EqOHVXuvt-ZiLr_nYc1I_H9Yif_B_aVLkkFCsqZzqvCshLH-aZ_3uL1uZOADQRl6Cdb1ER1meqY8dmK4nbb7sAk43PJ_2iYgKA wGRiO6WXh8gd16NIyKQbfnt1YkqdMZGjJojwOiA=s0-d-e1-ft#https://images.axios.com/PB_dT3x6GHrkENHsmgmasjC4UiI=/fit-in/1116x1300/2021/05/31/1622463576509.png

And I bet that the democrats who agree with this are republicans pretending to be democrats

[DMC]

https://madeinamericathebook.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/believe1.jpg

Presenting the OG "Q"

Can't expect people to not have flighty notions when they believe in biblical shit.

Interestingly enough, the same people here who espouse "follow the science" also believe this shit.


What's the lesson? If enough people believe bullshit, it becomes truth.

Why does it matter?

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2013-10-25/Evangelicals-8.png

[ChumpDumper]

DMC: "WHATABOUTTHISOTHERTHINGIWANTTODISTRACTYOUWITH?"

Your party is a bunch of conspiretards and you love them.

[Frenchfred]

https://madeinamericathebook.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/believe1.jpg

Presenting the OG "Q"

Can't expect people to not have flighty notions when they believe in biblical shit.

Interestingly enough, the same people here who espouse "follow the science" also believe this shit.


What's the lesson? If enough people believe bullshit, it becomes truth.

Why does it matter?

http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2013-10-25/Evangelicals-8.png

glad to see that my country only has 15% of cultists, still too much but better than 60%

[FrostKing]

https://ci5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/QuXvy__SQgs3FY44WECS1EqOHVXuvt-ZiLr_nYc1I_H9Yif_B_aVLkkFCsqZzqvCshLH-aZ_3uL1uZOADQRl6Cdb1ER1meqY8dmK4nbb7sAk43PJ_2iYgKA wGRiO6WXh8gd16NIyKQbfnt1YkqdMZGjJojwOiA=s0-d-e1-ft#https://images.axios.com/PB_dT3x6GHrkENHsmgmasjC4UiI=/fit-in/1116x1300/2021/05/31/1622463576509.png
Figure 2. Systematic Racism Theories

Flip red & blue

[ChumpDumper]

Figure 2. Systematic Racism Theories:lol you don't know what critical race theory is either. You were just told to be angry about it.

[DMC]

You got people admitting they did something because a voice in their head they consider the voice of a supernatural being told them to. Maybe some people call their inner thoughts the words of God if those thoughts can be rationalized using biblical text, but we all know where that can lead.

So what's crazier..

1. Votes were stolen, that patriotic people need to fight back to restore the country, that a group a wealthy elites run the world and simultaneously share underage kids for sexual escapades

or

2. An invisible omniscient being created everything to farm human souls so they can worship said being. Said being also killed said humans, except that one family he put on a boat. Said being then impregnated a virgin who just happened to be travelling with a male companion, with the plan of letting said humans torture and kill that offspring so that the omniscient being could forgive the same humans for being as he created them. And if you admit this happened, you'll go to an eternal glory land else you'll burn in eternal hell fire for being born.

60% believe some level of number 2. Much fewer believe number 1 but somehow number 1 has people in an uproar.

[DMC]

Why do people believe in God, ghosts, goblins, spirits, the afterlife and conspiracy theories? Two common threads running through these belief systems are what skeptic Michael Shermer in his insightful book “The Believing Brain” calls “patternicity” and “agenticity”. As the names indicate, patternicity refers to seeing meaningful patterns in meaningless noise. Agenticity refers to seeing mysterious but palpable causal ‘agents’, puppet masters who pull the strings and bring about unexplained phenomena. God is probably the perfect example of an agent.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/what-do-conspiracy-theories-religious-beliefs-and-detoxifying-proteins-have-in-common/

"But you cannot know everything so why not God?" -pgardn

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao DMC defending his Qtards

[DMC]

https://i.imgflip.com/17ltco.jpg

:lol

Someone really trying to be noticed

[pgardn]

Winehole admitted he was tipsy. Tipsy is a euphemism for drunk. You are a liar, I have illustrated this by showing your self contradicting statements. This isn't even debatable.

You dont understand what an expert in a narrow field is and generally good knowledge of a science.
You can twist and turn my words all you want. but you flat out dont know the whole of science as well as I do and it hurts.

All Because you dreamt you wrote an article for Popular Science? (lie or truth; Im calling former) And then you gave me an article from Psychology Today, flat out did not understand it, and then proved you have no clue on the difference between genetic traits and traits due to environmental factors. The list of your gaffes is immense so you try to pry your way out and I enjoy your struggle, mainly just because... well... you are the consummate asshole.

Keep going. Its not like its a big deal. I dont know trucks, guns or gaming or... there is lots of stuff I dont know well; why dont you concentrate on these things to secure a W.
Nah forget it. I will say I dont know and then where will you be left? Just quit pretending and spouting off about stuff you dont know. And then struggling to extricate yourself through my spelling errors or just disingenuous interpretation.

[DMC]

You dont understand what an expert in a narrow field is and generally good knowledge of a science.
You can twist and turn my words all you want. but you flat out dont know the whole of science as well as I do and it hurts.

All Because you dreamt you wrote an article for Popular Science? (lie or truth; Im calling former) And then you gave me an article from Psychology Today, flat out did not understand it, and then proved you have no clue on the difference between genetic traits and traits due to environmental factors. The list of your gaffes is immense so you try to pry your way out and I enjoy your struggle, mainly just because... well... you are the consummate asshole.

Keep going. Its not like its a big deal. I dont know trucks, guns or gaming or... there is lots of stuff I dont know well; why dont you concentrate on these things to secure a W.
Nah forget it. I will say I dont know and then where will you be left? Just quit pretending and spouting off about stuff you dont know. And then struggling to extricate yourself through my spelling errors or just disingenuous interpretation.
So you wont admit you dont know what abortion means.
Good deal. Mrs. Crutchfield cant handle her tactics of misspelling error ass smelling. But she can completely not understand a commonly used word. Abortion dumb fck, you dont abort a 5 yo kid, you know, already born? You want to argue what born and pregnant mean?

Neophytes? wtf are you, just dumb?

Physics prowess... I dont know physics that well.
I am a molecular biology guy, remember... the Nobel Prize you gave me...

Keep going.


Well that’s wonderful because you feel wrong.

And the feeling is more than mutual because you have lied your ass off.
If you were really interested in stuff I would love to show you around, but I can see a chump picture situation occurring because you are paranoid. And I bet you would love to show me around as well.

you seem to forget you asked me what I did and I summarized it. The other stuff I know about gas under pressure freezing is not my area of expertise. But I do understand the basics and you were just dead wrong. I am not an expert because I understand -295 under STP. The P is the important part which you just totally didn’t get. I have a pretty good grasp on biology chemistry and physics. But I am very narrow in the specifics of what I do, you should understand this if you really do what you say you do. You just get bent out of shape because I have trashed your science before. And you have the gall to use me as the expert in an argument with RG... did you even check my response to see if it was correct based on what you can read?

You just can't help yourself. I'll pray for you.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol DMC noticing every post

[Winehole23]

WINEHOLE23 HAS BEEN DRINKING!

DRINKING, I SAIDDD!

[DMC]

I am no longer tipsy, but your pompous evasions and strawmanning are still hilarious.


WINEHOLE23 HAS BEEN DRINKING!

DRINKING, I SAIDDD!

[Winehole23]

All caps = facetiois

I was making fun of you, genius.

[pgardn]

You just can't help yourself. I'll pray for you.

I dont know physics well enough to be an engineer in a particular area, or have a great knowledge of modern physics such as the General theory or quantum mechanics. To really know these well you have got to understand very difficult math. I could ask almost anyone what would happen if... and set up a situation that they would not be able to answer if they had merely read Stephen Hawking or Niel D. or any other popular science writer. I know enough to know what I do not know and what others that like science probably dont know but are really good at something very narrow.

You cant even say this.

I have a good grasp on all 3 sciences. I have a very good hold on molecular biology in a narrow field.
What do you not get, oh master of the vacuum? How many ways do I need to say this.
Just because I have punched you in the face numerous times on your understanding of science you got a piece of lumber on your shoulder and I must say... I love it. Just shut the fck up if you dont know something. Why get involved and then get pile driven and then have to fall back on grammatical arguments?

Keep going. Old fart...

And keep bolding the parts you want noticed without reading the rest. I have said basically the same thing over and over to you. But you keep up with your old man child games.

[DMC]

All caps = facetiois

I was making fun of you, genius.

I know. You're dismissing your alcoholism by pretending I imagined it

[pgardn]

All caps = facetiois

I was making fun of you, genius.

Thats the OCD kicking in.
Next thing he will be asking for you to write in a different font he prefers.

[DMC]

I dont know physics well enough to be an engineer in a particular area, or have a great knowledge of modern physics such as the General theory or quantum mechanics. To really know these well you have got to understand very difficult math. I could ask almost anyone what would happen if... and set up a situation that they would not be able to answer if they had merely read Stephen Hawking or Niel D. or any other popular science writer. I know enough to know what I do not know and what others that like science probably dont know but are really good at something very narrow.

You cant even say this.

I have a good grasp on all 3 sciences. I have a very good hold on molecular biology in a narrow field.
What do you not get, oh master of the vacuum? How many ways do I need to say this.
Just because I have punched you in the face numerous times on your understanding of science you got a piece of lumber on your shoulder and I must say... I love it. Just shut the fck up if you dont know something. Why get involved and then get pile driven and then have to fall back on grammatical arguments?

Keep going. Old fart...

And keep bolding the parts you want noticed without reading the rest. I have said basically the same thing over and over to you. But you keep up with your old man child games.

I know it pretty good
I don't know it very well

What I don't know, God did it
I am agnostic

signed
pgardn

[pgardn]

Why do people believe in God, ghosts, goblins, spirits, the afterlife and conspiracy theories? Two common threads running through these belief systems are what skeptic Michael Shermer in his insightful book “The Believing Brain” calls “patternicity” and “agenticity”. As the names indicate, patternicity refers to seeing meaningful patterns in meaningless noise. Agenticity refers to seeing mysterious but palpable causal ‘agents’, puppet masters who pull the strings and bring about unexplained phenomena. God is probably the perfect example of an agent.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/what-do-conspiracy-theories-religious-beliefs-and-detoxifying-proteins-have-in-common/

"But you cannot know everything so why not God?" -pgardn

Again absolutely disingenuous paraphrasing.
It makes sense to me people fall back on this.
AND... most importantly, religion and philosophy, ya dumb fuck, helps people approach moral and ethical questions which science does not lend itself to. And lastly, if you think science will solve everything with titles like "The God Particle" you are fooling yourself. Science WILL NOT solve everything like you think it will. Because WE invented it, apes invented this. Apes evolved for life on the plains and trees of Africa. So you keep up with your RELIGION of man as all knowing.

You are a most disingenuous old fck.

[pgardn]

I know it pretty good
I don't know it very well

What I don't know, God did it
I am agnostic

signed
pgardn

Yeah exactly Mrs. Crutchfield.
Tell us about how you can measure wind in braille again.

[DMC]

Again absolutely disingenuous paraphrasing.
It makes sense to me people fall back on this.
AND... most importantly, religion and philosophy, ya dumb fuck, helps people approach moral and ethical questions which science does not lend itself to. And lastly, if you think science will solve everything with titles like "The God Particle" you are fooling yourself. Science WILL NOT solve everything like you think it will. Because WE invented it, apes invented this. Apes evolved for life on the plains and trees of Africa. So you keep up with your RELIGION of man as all knowing.

You are a most disingenuous old fck.

Science won't help us solve everything

ergo

God

[pgardn]

Science won't help us solve everything

ergo

God



YOU: Science will lead us to know everything
Me: No way, I see why people believe in a god or gods or the spaghetti monster. We are apes with limitations.
YOU: Pgardn believes Jesus is white.

[Th'Pusher]

You got people admitting they did something because a voice in their head they consider the voice of a supernatural being told them to. Maybe some people call their inner thoughts the words of God if those thoughts can be rationalized using biblical text, but we all know where that can lead.

So what's crazier..

1. Votes were stolen, that patriotic people need to fight back to restore the country, that a group a wealthy elites run the world and simultaneously share underage kids for sexual escapades

or

2. An invisible omniscient being created everything to farm human souls so they can worship said being. Said being also killed said humans, except that one family he put on a boat. Said being then impregnated a virgin who just happened to be travelling with a male companion, with the plan of letting said humans torture and kill that offspring so that the omniscient being could forgive the same humans for being as he created them. And if you admit this happened, you'll go to an eternal glory land else you'll burn in eternal hell fire for being born.

60% believe some level of number 2. Much fewer believe number 1 but somehow number 1 has people in an uproar.

Republicans believe both 1 and 2 at a higher percentage than Democrats. So which party has more crazies?

[DMC]

YOU: Science will lead us to know everything
Me: No way, I see why people believe in a god or gods or the spaghetti monster. We are apes with limitations.
YOU: Pgardn believes Jesus is white.

I know why people believe in a god. You suggested that, since we cannot know everything, there's room for god in the discussion as if inserting god answers anything. the FSM is a meme, it isn't actually worshipped. You just cannot escape your religious upbringing and environment.

[DMC]

Republicans believe both 1 and 2 at a higher percentage than Democrats. So which party has more crazies?

With such a high percentage of Americans who believe a god exists, why are you surprised that conspiracies get so much consideration?

[Th'Pusher]

With such a high percentage of Americans who believe a god exists, why are you surprised that conspiracies get so much consideration?

I’m not. I’m just pointing to the fact that the belief in conspiracies is more prevalent with people who identify as republican than democrat.

This is a political forum so I’m framing the conversation politically.

[Winehole23]

Well that proves everything.


One example of many in the last four years.

I'd be happy to provide an updated list of recent extremism-related mass murders in the US upon request.

I presume you can provide one of recent left wing extremist massacres in the US, to show us it's exactly the same on both sides.Still waiting for that list of equivalents because, both sides, right?

Chop chop.

[Winehole23]

Mr. No-Bias View From Nowhere only punches left and minimizes the violence of loyal stormtrumpers against all comers.

And patholgizes religion. Because it’s just a fact that religious belief is a mental illness.

:lmao

[DMC]

Homicide

US homicide victims by race, 1980–2017[50]

US homicide offenders by race, 1980–2017[51]
According to the FBI, African-Americans accounted for 55.9% of all homicide offenders in 2019, with whites 41.1%, and "Other"/Unknown 3.0% in cases where the race was known.[52] Among homicide victims in 2019 where the race was known, 54.7% were black or African-American, 42.3% were white, and 3.1% were of other races.[53][54] The per-capita offending rate for African-Americans was roughly six times higher than that of whites, and the victim rate is a similar figure. Most homicides were intraracial; where the perpetrator's race was known, 81% of white victims were killed by whites and 91% of black or African-American victims were killed by African-Americans.[54]


in 2020 Joe Biden won 90% of the black vote.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol what is this dumbass going on about now?

[Winehole23]

:lol what is this dumbass going on about now?Black folks are leftist extremists apparently. Wonder how he’ll tie it to recent racially motivated mass murders.

Also curious to hear his explanation for “black on black” violence and how that’s tied to leftist political extremism.

This should be good.

[Winehole23]

Homicide

US homicide victims by race, 1980–2017[50]

US homicide offenders by race, 1980–2017[51]
According to the FBI, African-Americans accounted for 55.9% of all homicide offenders in 2019, with whites 41.1%, and "Other"/Unknown 3.0% in cases where the race was known.[52] Among homicide victims in 2019 where the race was known, 54.7% were black or African-American, 42.3% were white, and 3.1% were of other races.[53][54] The per-capita offending rate for African-Americans was roughly six times higher than that of whites, and the victim rate is a similar figure. Most homicides were intraracial; where the perpetrator's race was known, 81% of white victims were killed by whites and 91% of black or African-American victims were killed by African-Americans.[54]


in 2020 Joe Biden won 90% of the black vote.saved for posterity

[DMC]

More murders happen by people who are more likely (90% to 8%) democratic voters vs republicans. You can spin that and play Van Jones all you like, I just posted the facts without any personal opinion.

Of course murders only matter if they are "extremists".

Just admit you fucked up again.

[pgardn]

I know why people believe in a god. You suggested that, since we cannot know everything, there's room for god in the discussion as if inserting god answers anything. the FSM is a meme, it isn't actually worshipped. You just cannot escape your religious upbringing and environment.

You raving dumb fck...

Again. Morals and ethics are the realm of religion and philosophy. Yes, they do attempt to answer things that science does not answer. Human societies have always had these things around. Its You who cant get away from the dying and what happens after crap that people believe. YOU think people are religious because they are afraid of dying.
Are you just stupid? How many times do I have to go over this...

Its your red team that is worried about people like us who cannot be grounded in good ethics because of not believing the ethical behavior transfers to some after life you blithering idiot. Your team thinks people who dont follow these rules CANNOT possibly really believe in doing good work, empathy, sympathy because NOTHING is promised in return. And you in your crusty, lying, assholish ways make them look correct.
This is where you like to play bad guy, "I dont believe in God and its a dog eat dog world you fckn idiot liberals. Its me or them, and it certainly wont be me."
Like someone is after you.
Damn right Im pakin, Im old and some fk like pgardn might beat the holy crap out of me and take my stuff...

You are a paranoid obsessive compulsive old prick who is nothing but a taker.
And an obsessively disingenuous fck that cant admit when you are wrong.
And in your eyes, so is everyone else.

[Winehole23]

More murders happen by people who are more likely (90% to 8%) democratic voters vs republicans. You can spin that and play Van Jones all you like, I just posted the facts without any personal opinion.

Of course murders only matter if they are "extremists".

Just admit you fucked up again.nah, you just showed your ass

[Winehole23]

NEVER MIND THAT, WHAT ABOUT SCARY BLACK PEOPLE

[ChumpDumper]

I mean most convicted murderers can't even vote.:lol

[DMC]

You raving dumb fck...

Again. Morals and ethics are the realm of religion and philosophy. Yes, they do attempt to answer things that science does not answer. Human societies have always had these things around. Its You who cant get away from the dying and what happens after crap that people believe. YOU think people are religious because they are afraid of dying.
Are you just stupid? How many times do I have to go over this...

Its your red team that is worried about people like us who cannot be grounded in good ethics because of not believing the ethical behavior transfers to some after life you blithering idiot. Your team thinks people who dont follow these rules CANNOT possibly really believe in doing good work, empathy, sympathy because NOTHING is promised in return. And you in your crusty, lying, assholish ways make them look correct.
This is where you like to play bad guy, "I dont believe in God and its a dog eat dog world you fckn idiot liberals. Its me or them, and it certainly wont be me."
Like someone is after you.
Damn right Im pakin, Im old and some fk like pgardn might beat the holy crap out of me and take my stuff...

You are a paranoid obsessive compulsive old prick who is nothing but a taker.
And an obsessively disingenuous fck that cant admit when you are wrong.
And in your eyes, so is everyone else.

Keep melting down.

Religion and philosophy :lol
Philosophy is how religion has been debunked. The use of critical thought and reason has lead thinking people out of the allegorical cave of religion. Now you want to put them back inside as if philosophy is a religion.

[Winehole23]

lol most

presumably black folks who haven’t committed murder yet are just latent murderers and leftist extremists.

might be genetic, might be because “they” vote for Democrats. hope we get some elucidation on this.

[DMC]

lol most

presumably black folks who haven’t committed murder yet are just latent murderers and leftist extremists.

might be genetic, might be because “they” vote for Democrats. hope we get some elucidation on this.

Where do you see that in the data I posted? You're playing the race card trying to get an easy win here :lol

There's nothing predictive about it. It's simply a paragraph containing the FBI's results. This is evidence that most murders were committed by people 90% likely to be democrats. Write to the FBI and call them out if you don't like it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Accord ing%20to%20the%20FBI%2C%20African,3.1%25%20were%20 of%20other%20races.

Send them this link and ask them WTF.

[ChumpDumper]

They'd be more likely to not vote tbhonestbroker.

[DarrinS]

Crime way up during the "defund campaign". Not predictable at all.

[pgardn]

Keep melting down.

Religion and philosophy :lol
Philosophy is how religion has been debunked. The use of critical thought and reason has lead thinking people out of the allegorical cave of religion. Now you want to put them back inside as if philosophy is a religion.

Bullshit.
They go hand in hand and grew up together.
People should NOT kill has been debunked? How, its a statement on behavior considered proper?
You are such a fckn simpleton...

Yes the Greeks totally had no Gods... when they made some of the most fundamental principals of logic.

You just absolutely make shit up and dig yourself deeper in your own fecal material.

[ChumpDumper]

Crime way up during Trump's last year.

Predictable.

[Winehole23]

Crime way up during the "defund campaign". Not predictable at all.Who defunded cops?

Did crime also go up in cities that kept it the same or spent more?

[DarrinS]

Crime way up during Trump's last year.

Predictable.

He's gone. Joe's America now.

[Winehole23]

Where do you see that in the data I posted? You're playing the race card trying to get an easy win here :lol

There's nothing predictive about it. It's simply a paragraph containing the FBI's results. This is evidence that most murders were committed by people 90% likely to be democrats. Write to the FBI and call them out if you don't like it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Accord ing%20to%20the%20FBI%2C%20African,3.1%25%20were%20 of%20other%20races.

Send them this link and ask them WTF.We were talking about US mass murders related to political extremism. I asked you to provide left wing examples. You couldn't come up with any, so you colored outside the lines to say what about African Americans, they voted for Biden.

If your can relate one to the other, I'd be impressed.

[DarrinS]

Who defunded cops?

Did crime also go up in cities that kept it the same or spent more?


How is Austin?

[ChumpDumper]

He's gone. Joe's America now.Yeah, he has to clean up your mess.:tu

[Winehole23]

How is Austin?You ducked.

I'm not familliar with crime stats for Austin, if crime rose, how would that be linked to "defund police"?

Mightn't the more elegant explanation be personal and financial hardships brought on by an epochal pandemic?

After all, police are shitty at preventing crimes. They aren't even very good at solving them, tbqh.

[DarrinS]

Yeah, he has to clean up your mess.:tu

It has been worse, across the board.

[ChumpDumper]

How is Austin?My zip code is fine.

[ChumpDumper]

It has been worse, across the board.You fucked up electing him. It's going to take more than four months to clean up your mess.

You'll never realize nor admit what you did.

[Winehole23]

It has been worse, across the board.Maybe the pandemic has more to do with it.

[DarrinS]

You ducked.

I'm not familliar with crime stats for Austin, if crime rose, how would that be linked to "defund police"?

Mightn't the more elegant explanation be personal and financial hardships brought on by an epochal pandemic?

After all, police are shitty at preventing crimes. They aren't even very good at solving them, tbqh.


You live in Austin, dickhead.

[DarrinS]

You fucked up electing him. It's going to take more than four months to clean up your mess.

You'll never realize nor admit what you did.

Out of office.

[Winehole23]

You live in Austin, dickhead.the FBI has stats on clearance rates for violent crime. The trend does not flatter LE.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe the pandemic has more to do with it.Yep, Trump ruined the US with his pandemic response.

Darrin is a dishonest person who will never be anything more than a passive aggressive Trumptard.

[ChumpDumper]

Out of office.You're welcome.
:lmao you voted for him in 2020.

[DarrinS]

Austin trying hard to be Portland.

Both very progressive and very white.


:lol

[DarrinS]

You're welcome.
:lmao you voted for him in 2020.

And?

[Winehole23]

Still ducking, with an oddly white-baiting garnish.

[ChumpDumper]

And?It's worthy of ridicule, Darrin.

Tell me, do you think Trump's presidency was a net positive for the US?

Yes or no.

[DarrinS]

The more left your city, the more fucked up your city.

[Winehole23]

The more left your city, the more fucked up your city.Seems more faith-based than empirical, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Make your case, Professor Darrin.

[DarrinS]

Seems more faith-based than empirical, tbh.

Go get some data.

[ChumpDumper]

Austin trying hard to be Portland.

Both very progressive and very white.


:lolWhy did San Antonio's murders go up 20% in 2020, Darrin?

[Winehole23]

Stands pat with handwaving, what a surprise.

[ChumpDumper]

The more left your city, the more fucked up your city.

Why do Amarillo and Lubbock have higher violent crime rates than Austin, Darrin?

Explain.

[Winehole23]

Go get some data.Your claim, your burden.

Darrin goes full WC.

PROVE ME WRONG!

[DarrinS]

Why did San Antonio's murders go up 20% in 2020, Darrin?

Austin on pace for over 100% increase. What's up?

[ChumpDumper]

Austin on pace for over 100% increase. What's up?I asked you, Darrin.

Why did San Antonio's rate increase?

Please answer my question and I will try to do the same.

[DarrinS]

Whinehole and chump would be scared shitless to go downtown. :lol

I've been. Its incredibly sketchy.

[ChumpDumper]

Whinehole and chump would be scared shitless to go downtown. :lol

I've been. Its incredibly sketchy.Downtown Austin?

You were scared there?:rollin

What a colossal pussy.:lol

[DarrinS]

Downtown Austin?

You were scared there?:rollin

What a colossal pussy.:lol


San Antonio is more populated, but your downtown is more sketchy.

And you haven't been there, n95 creampuff. :lol

[Winehole23]

Austin on pace for over 100% increase. What's up?
Once in a century pandemic with an historic economic shock.

[ChumpDumper]

San Antonio is more populated, but your downtown is more sketchy.

And you haven't been there, n95 creampuff. :lol:lmao Darrin is afraid of downtown AUSTIN.

And he's claiming I've never been there in the last 20 years I've lived here.:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[Winehole23]

Whinehole and chump would be scared shitless to go downtown. :lol

I've been. Its incredibly sketchy.I'm downtown nearly every day for work. Not a worry here.

I used to live in an alleged bad part of town for about 10 years and never had a spot of trouble there either.

[ChumpDumper]

Austin had 52 homicides in 1985 when the population was 466,000.

Now Darrin is shitting his pants because Austin had 48 homicides last year with a population of over 1,000,000.:lmao

No wonder he's a Trump voter -- Darrin operates on pure fear and emotion.

[boutons_deux]

endgame? Capitalism-financed one-party fascism

[Winehole23]

Austin had 52 homicides in 1985 when the population was 466,000.

Now Darrin is shitting his pants because Austin had 48 homicides last year with a population of over 2,000,000.:lmao

No wonder he's a Trump voter -- Darrin operates on pure fear and emotion.Crime was far worse in the 1980s and 1990s than now. No contest, really.

[Winehole23]

Crime was far worse in the 1980s and 1990s than now. No contest, really.Reagan and Bush's America.

[ChumpDumper]

Crime was far worse in the 1980s and 1990s than now. No contest, really.South Congress would've made Darrin kill himself preemptively back then. Now the whole city is a playground by comparison.

[DarrinS]

South Congress would've made Darrin kill himself preemptively back then. Now the whole city is a playground by comparison.

You don't venture there. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

You don't venture there. :lol:lmao of course I do. Do you even know where I'm talking about?

Are you scared of South Congress NOW?:lol

Where did you go that scared you so badly, Darrin?

[DMC]

I’m not. I’m just pointing to the fact that the belief in conspiracies is more prevalent with people who identify as republican than democrat.

This is a political forum so I’m framing the conversation politically.

So 85% for blue, 95% for red. The difference is negligible. You still have the large majority of both sides believing in supernatural shit, so conspiracy seems like a walk in the park.

[DMC]

Bullshit.
They go hand in hand and grew up together.
People should NOT kill has been debunked? How, its a statement on behavior considered proper?
You are such a fckn simpleton...

Yes the Greeks totally had no Gods... when they made some of the most fundamental principals of logic.

You just absolutely make shit up and dig yourself deeper in your own fecal material.

Wrong

[Winehole23]

:lmao of course I do. Do you even know where I'm talking about?

Are you scared of South Congress NOW?:lol

Where did you go that scared you so badly, Darrin?Perla's and Home Slice, the Yeti store, Hotel Magdalena and the new luxury condos/high end retail mall.

Grim stuff.

[Winehole23]

Hotel San Jose and the Austin Motel were hot sheet motels as recently as the late 1990s. Look at them now.

[DMC]

We were talking about US mass murders related to political extremism. I asked you to provide left wing examples. You couldn't come up with any, so you colored outside the lines to say what about African Americans, they voted for Biden.

If your can relate one to the other, I'd be impressed.

I showed you that the bulk of murders most likely come from democratic voters. You're cherry picking to consider only "mass murders", especially since statistically, mass murders constitute a small fraction of murders overall.



https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/mass-shootings-are-rare-firearm-suicides-are-much-more-common-and-kill-more-americans

When it comes to people killed by firearms, police data reported to the FBI estimates that guns were used in 10,258 of the 13,927 homicides that occurred in 2019.

That’s much higher than even the uppermost count of mass shootings in 2019, the 417 recorded by the Gun Violence Archive. That group counts all incidents in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter, regardless of whether the shooter is killed or injured. It also includes events that involve gang violence or armed robbery, as well as shootings that occurred in public or in private homes, as many domestic violence shootings do.

55% of 10,256 is over 5000 homicides 90% likely to be democratic supporters.

compare that to the 417 from mass shootings, and even some of the mass shootings were done by democrats. Some of these numbers are double counted, like total deaths includes the mass shooting deaths, which is why I lowered the percentage results.

[Winehole23]

I showed you that the bulk of murders most likely come from democratic voters. You're cherry picking to consider only "mass murders", especially since statistically, mass murders constitute a small fraction of murders overall.



https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/mass-shootings-are-rare-firearm-suicides-are-much-more-common-and-kill-more-americans

When it comes to people killed by firearms, police data reported to the FBI estimates that guns were used in 10,258 of the 13,927 homicides that occurred in 2019.

That’s much higher than even the uppermost count of mass shootings in 2019, the 417 recorded by the Gun Violence Archive. That group counts all incidents in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter, regardless of whether the shooter is killed or injured. It also includes events that involve gang violence or armed robbery, as well as shootings that occurred in public or in private homes, as many domestic violence shootings do.

55% of 10,256 is over 5000 homicides 90% likely to be democratic supporters.

compare that to the 417 from mass shootings, and even some of the mass shootings were done by democrats. Some of these numbers are double counted, like total deaths includes the mass shooting deaths, which is why I lowered the percentage results.Great, now tie that to murders motivated by political extremism, and you're back in business.

[Winehole23]

what's the left wing equivalent of Charleston, or El Paso or Pittsburgh?

[Winehole23]

In b4 violent blacks voted for Biden

[Winehole23]

Btw, what's the left wing equivalent of the Jan 6th attack on the US Congress and the EC certification?

[FrostKing]

:corn:

[Winehole23]

Pro tip: they voted for Biden isn't a causal link.

[Th'Pusher]

So 85% for blue, 95% for red. The difference is negligible. You still have the large majority of both sides believing in supernatural shit, so conspiracy seems like a walk in the park.

Take a close look. The difference isn’t negligible.

[Th'Pusher]

I showed you that the bulk of murders most likely come from democratic voters. You're cherry picking to consider only "mass murders", especially since statistically, mass murders constitute a small fraction of murders overall.



https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/mass-shootings-are-rare-firearm-suicides-are-much-more-common-and-kill-more-americans

When it comes to people killed by firearms, police data reported to the FBI estimates that guns were used in 10,258 of the 13,927 homicides that occurred in 2019.

That’s much higher than even the uppermost count of mass shootings in 2019, the 417 recorded by the Gun Violence Archive. That group counts all incidents in which at least four people are shot, excluding the shooter, regardless of whether the shooter is killed or injured. It also includes events that involve gang violence or armed robbery, as well as shootings that occurred in public or in private homes, as many domestic violence shootings do.

55% of 10,256 is over 5000 homicides 90% likely to be democratic supporters.

compare that to the 417 from mass shootings, and even some of the mass shootings were done by democrats. Some of these numbers are double counted, like total deaths includes the mass shooting deaths, which is why I lowered the percentage results.

:lol likely

[Winehole23]

:lol likelyI guess the Democrats, who can hardly pass anything while holding the House, the Senate and the presidency, count as political extremists. Voting for Dems causes black people to kill.

Must be the radical ideology of Joe Biden, there's no other plausible explanation..

[Winehole23]

What's the left wing equivalent of the OKC bombing?

Anyone?

[Winehole23]

what's the left wing equivalent of Charleston, or El Paso or Pittsburgh?

[Winehole23]

Btw, what's the left wing equivalent of the Jan 6th attack on the US Congress and the EC certification?

[Winehole23]

Was a city hall or state capitol anywhere attacked last year?

If so, that would be analogous, not equivalent.

[Winehole23]

Oh, right. I forgot. It was right wingers who attacked the Oregon capitol, closed the Washington state capitol with threats and plotted to kidnap the Michigan governor.

Are there any left wing equivalents for that?

[Winehole23]

DMC

The great mass of rando murders (by black people) aren't politically extended extremism, hoss.

Not sure why you excluded other groups, can you explain that?

Why ignore the other 42% or whatever it is? Don't those murders deserve sloppy political attribution too?

:lmao

[Winehole23]

(Tune in tomorrow for more epic whataboutism and lawyerly parsing of terms!)

[Winehole23]

:lol likelyDemands correct terms,numerical precision and a clear chain of causation from other posters, then fudges his own point.

[ElNono]

Hey guys, interesting discussion, tbh... did you guys hear about the violent crime in Chicago? look it up.

[Trainwreck2100]

Hey guys, interesting discussion, tbh... did you guys hear about the violent crime in Chicago? look it up.

i'll have you know all the dead americans killed by right wing terrorists pails in comparison to all the aborted babies the dems have killed. THINK OF THE ABORTED BABIES NONO

[ElNono]

i'll have you know all the dead americans killed by right wing terrorists pails in comparison to all the aborted babies the dems have killed. THINK OF THE ABORTED BABIES NONO

Not even sure why the GOP opposes abortion... that's a lot of lost prospective democrat voters right there, tbh...

[Thread]

What's the left wing equivalent of the OKC bombing?

Anyone?

I got 'er...you blew up those men, women and babies in Texas, then fled. McVeigh gave chase, ran you to ground in OKC and conducted Empathy 101 in broad daylight. You're square with the house and we can be friends once & again.

"In the fell clutch of circumstance I have not winced nor cried aloud. Under the bludgeonings of chance My head is bloody, but unbowed."

Let us proceed...

[Frenchfred]

i'll have you know all the dead americans killed by right wing terrorists pails in comparison to all the aborted babies the dems have killed. THINK OF THE ABORTED BABIES NONO

the party that's pro-life defending foetus incapable of living on their own but doesn't give a sh!t about people once born. I always loved it

[Trill Clinton]

Btw, what's the left wing equivalent of the Jan 6th attack on the US Congress and the EC certification?


what's the left wing equivalent of Charleston, or El Paso or Pittsburgh?


What's the left wing equivalent of the OKC bombing?

Anyone?


https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BoldFocusedDog-max-1mb.gif

[DMC]

:lol likely

Of course. The statistical probability is high but not certain. 90% of the registered demographic that the FBI indicates as having committed these homicides vote democrat. I'm just being honest. Would you prefer I pretend to know for sure, like you and a few others here do? That's not my thing.

[Winehole23]

You should sit this one out, hoss.

[DMC]

I guess the Democrats, who can hardly pass anything while holding the House, the Senate and the presidency, count as political extremists. Voting for Dems causes black people to kill.

Must be the radical ideology of Joe Biden, there's no other plausible explanation..

More non sequitur race baiting. I've said nothing about what causes anyone to do anything. I have only correlated the FBI data with the voter poll results. You're free to draw whatever conclusions you wish from it, but those are your conclusions, not mine.

[DMC]

"Homicides voting Democrat"

:lmao

"90% of the registered demographic that the FBI indicates as having committed these homicides vote democrat."

Sober up.

[Winehole23]

Link bewteen ideology and murders not made. DMC is just pointing and handwaving.

[DMC]

the party that's pro-life defending foetus incapable of living on their own but doesn't give a sh!t about people once born. I always loved it

This isn't as obvious as you make it out to be. Defending the defenseless seems more ethically sound than giving a shit about people who can defend themselves. They don't need to be mutually exclusive though, and you've nary room because the party that's pro-choice doesn't consider the choice of the fetus.

[DMC]

Link bewteen ideology and murders not made. DMC is just pointing and handwaving.

I pointed out that the majority of homicides are committed by people who, if they vote, would vote democrat 9 times out of 10. You seem afraid to own this.

dogrefusal.gif etc...

You also haven't made a link between ideology and murders. The OKC bombing wasn't a conservative effort. It was retribution for Waco by a nutjob. This doesn't seem to matter to you though, you're comfortably applying a double standard per ST par

[DMC]

You should sit this one out, hoss.

That probably sounded cute when you thought of it. Maybe you should not get into discussions you're not comfortable having since you look for any possible escape hatch, in this case race baiting. Stick with posting tweets of people who have actual thoughts.

[DMC]

DMC

The great mass of rando murders (by black people) aren't politically extended extremism, hoss.

Not sure why you excluded other groups, can you explain that?

Why ignore the other 42% or whatever it is? Don't those murders deserve sloppy political attribution too?

:lmao
I focused on the greater %. It stands to reason that, if 55% is of one demographic, the other 45% must be of some other demographic. This isn't rocket science.. hoss.

I gave you the benefit that ALL the other murders were GOPers. We know that's not true, but I allowed it anyhow. Show your math if you disagree.

You own this. You don't have to like it.

[Winehole23]

White identity Christianity is a far right ideology. Without it McVeigh had no motive to bomb the Murrah building.

The ideologies behind El Paso, Charleston and Pittsbugh massacres were similarly racialist right wing ideologies.

The Jan 6th rebellion was inspired and carried out by delusional rigjt wingers who thought Trump won the election. The ideology provided a motive and whipped up the zeal.

Same can't be said for rando murders.

[Winehole23]

It would be meaningless to accept or reject that a majority of murders are committed by people likely to vote for Democrats, because the crimes are not linkable to the ideology. For OKC, El Paso, Charleston and Jan 6th we know they are linked to right wing ideology by the subjects' own words and deeds.

[DMC]

White identity Christianity is a far right ideology. Without it McVeigh had no motive to bomb the Murrah building.

So Christianity is to blame.

Blame for Waco, blame for OKC. Religion. The ultimate Q


The ideologies behind El Paso, Charleston and Pittsbugh massacres were similarly racialist right wing ideologies.

The Jan 6th rebellion was inspires and carries out by delusional rigjt wingers who thought Trump won the election. The ideology provided a motive and whipped up the zeal.

Same can't be said for rando murders.
Dead is dead

[DMC]

It would be meaningless to accept or reject that a majority of murders are committed by people likely to vote for Democrats, because the crimes are not linkable to the ideology. For OKC, El Paso, Charleston and Jan 6th we know they are linked to right wing ideology by the subjects' own words and deeds.

How is killing a building full of mostly white federal agents and their families linked to conservatism?

[Winehole23]

So Christianity is to blame.

Blame for Waco, blame for OKC. Religion. The ultimate Q
Buttsore, far-right wingers all

[Winehole23]

How is killing a building full of mostly white federal agents and their families linked to conservatism?I said right wing, not conservative. Neo-Nazi Christianity is a far right wing political ideology.

[Winehole23]

Get ready for the terminologocal rodeo I predicted last night.

Back later, y'all, it's moving day for me.

[Winehole23]

I said right wing, not conservative. Neo-Nazi Christianity is a far right wing political ideology.One more thing: bombing the Murrah Building (DOJ) was a political expression of Tim McVeigh's ideology. Terrorism is often expressly political.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao DMC just accused someone else of "nonsequitur race baiting."

[DMC]

Buttsore, far-right wingers all

Except religion doesn't discriminate. Democrats believe in jeebus too.

[DMC]

One more thing: bombing the Murrah Building (DOJ) was a political expression of Tim McVeigh's ideology. Terrorism is often expressly political.

Political maybe, but that doesn't mean it supports the political platform of either party. Many ideologies are political in nature, but not necessarily part of an official political stance by either major political party and LEOs are mostly republicans so killing a shit ton of them doesn't really do anything to terrorize the left, I mean.. "what do we want?" "DEAD COPS!" "when do we want them?" "NOW".



Seemed ok I guess to espouse that ideology at the time since it was coming for the far left. Killing cops isn't a conservative ideology.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqi2LnOXcAAE4IG.jpg

[DMC]

Of course, when someone kills a cop or two out of retribution, that's different than someone killing ATF agents out of retribution. I don't support either, but it's interesting how willing some here are to draw such a distinction just because of the color of the flag they fly.

[baseline bum]

White identity Christianity is a far right ideology. Without it McVeigh had no motive to bomb the Murrah building.

The ideologies behind El Paso, Charleston and Pittsbugh massacres were similarly racialist right wing ideologies.

The Jan 6th rebellion was inspired and carried out by delusional rigjt wingers who thought Trump won the election. The ideology provided a motive and whipped up the zeal.

Same can't be said for rando murders.

I don't really believe Trump's brownshirts at the capitol thought he won, they just didn't give a shit that he lost and wanted him to seize power anyways.

[spurraider21]

DMC knows* the way he's looking at this is bad faith. you could also look at homicides or any violent crime and see that it's mostly committed by poorer people. or mostly committed by men. violent crime rates can also track with population density.

ergo

most men voted for trump. men commit 80+ % of the murders. therefore murderers support trump.


*for whatever reason i tend to give DMC more credit than people like derp or Qhris. undeservedly at this point

[ChumpDumper]

I doubt DMC would say whether he is afraid of downtown Austin or not now.

[Thread]

I don't really believe Trump's brownshirts at the capitol thought he won, they just didn't give a shit that he lost and wanted him to seize power anyways.

Mornin' fart face.

[baseline bum]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

[Thread]

One more thing: bombing the Murrah Building (DOJ) was a political expression of Tim McVeigh's ideology. Terrorism is often expressly political.

...and em-pathetically 2 years to the date that men, women and babies were massacred at Waco.

[Thread]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

Let us proceed...

[vy65]

Stopped reading thread when Darrin said that SoCo and Dirty 6 are violent crime areas.

[ChumpDumper]

Stopped reading thread when Darrin said that SoCo and Dirty 6 are violent crime areas.

Darrin back in exurb Bexar County after his tour of duty in downtown Austin:

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[Winehole23]

I don't really believe Trump's brownshirts at the capitol thought he won, they just didn't give a shit that he lost and wanted him to seize power anyways.Sure.

Ironizing and insincerity are native to fascism as flexing and taunting. The point is to dominate one's enemies, sincere belief in the ideology is neither here nor there.

[boutons_deux]

endgame for poor repugliqans is to remain poor, as always, because they keep voting Repug for social issues rather than their own self-interest

[DarrinS]

Darrin back in exurb Bexar County after his tour of duty in downtown Austin:

https://i.imgur.com/F8V2N5J.gif


Just happy campers. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol terrified Darrin

[vy65]

:lol terrified Darrin

Between the barrage of overpriced merino sweaters from Buck Mason on Congress to the horror of a bachelorette pedal party to the utter hell that is the outdoor mall in the Seaholm district, can you blame him?

[Adam Lambert]

Crime way up during the "defund campaign". Not predictable at all.

Whining entitled cops decided to quit working because their feefees were hurted :cry

[Thread]

Whining entitled cops decided to quit working because their feefees were hurted :cry

Mornin' fart face.

[DMC]

DMC knows* the way he's looking at this is bad faith. you could also look at homicides or any violent crime and see that it's mostly committed by poorer people. or mostly committed by men. violent crime rates can also track with population density.

ergo

most men voted for trump. men commit 80+ % of the murders. therefore murderers support trump.


*for whatever reason i tend to give DMC more credit than people like derp or Qhris. undeservedly at this point

Except for 2 things

1. You can increase the resolution by having another variable. In this case the FBI provided it.
2. I couldn't care less what "credit" you give me since I never applied for any.

And speaking of poor people, how many wealthy folks have committed mass murder (politicians notwithstanding)?

[spurraider21]

Except for 2 things

1. You can increase the resolution by having another variable. In this case the FBI provided it.
2. I couldn't care less what "credit" you give me since I never applied for any.
the only variable you looked at was race though. black people commit x % of murder. i can do the same by socioeconomic class, by gender, by geography, etc

[DMC]

Whining entitled cops decided to quit working because their feefees were hurted :cry

You could probably apply to a police academy and show them what the face of bravery and sacrifice looks like. You know, set an example.

[DMC]

the only variable you looked at was race though. black people commit x % of murder. i can do the same by socioeconomic class, by gender, by geography, etc

I wasn't looking for anything but political party. Others decided to make it about race. I only found a connection between a certain reported demographic for homicide vs the same demographic for voting. You can do all that other stuff if you like, but 55% is 55%. If someone got 55% of the vote you'd call it a landslide victory.

I wasn't even looking at crime, just homicide because WH was touting mass murders. Deaths are deaths.

[spurraider21]

I wasn't looking for anything but political party. Others decided to make it about race. I only found a connection between a certain reported demographic for homicide vs the same demographic for voting. You can do all that other stuff if you like, but 55% is 55%. If someone got 55% of the vote you'd call it a landslide victory.

I wasn't even looking at crime, just homicide because WH was touting mass murders. Deaths are deaths.
this is false. the only rate you posted was homicide by race. unless i missed the FBI statistic you provided of homocide rate by political party.

[Winehole23]

this is false. the only rate you posted was homicide by race.posed as an equivalent to mass murders by right wing extremists in the US

“90% voted for Biden”

[DMC]

this is false. the only rate you posted was homicide by race. unless i missed the FBI statistic you provided of homocide rate by political party.

Not true.

I showed 90% democrat as well.

So, 90% of demographic A votes democratic in an election. Demographic A commits 55% of homicides. It then stands to reason that democrats commit most homicides. It could have been any race, if that race happened to have the lion's share homicides. Could have been white women, and if they voted for democrats at that high of a clip then I'd say whatever ideology causes them to vote democrat could also be in play to cause them to kill more often.

You just don't like the facts.

If you really wanted to argue against it, you'd say there's no way to know what percentage of the convicted murderers (not all homicides are murders) were registered to vote prior to their felonies, and of those how many actually voted. Registration isn't support. Only voting is support, would you agree?

But since you cannot show that black murderers would be less inclined to register than would white murderers, we can cancel that variable on both sides.

The likely truth is that people who commit these acts aren't doing them for political reasons, with some exceptions. You can use cause vs correlation fallacies all you like and it's the norm here to do so if it benefits your argument.

[spurraider21]

Not true.

I showed 90% democrat as well.

So, 90% of demographic A votes democratic in an election. Demographic A commits 55% of homicides. It then stands to reason that democrats commit most homicides. It could have been any race, if that race happened to have the lion's share homicides. Could have been white women, and if they voted for democrats at that high of a clip then I'd say whatever ideology causes them to vote democrat could also be in play to cause them to kill more often.

You just don't like the facts.

If you really wanted to argue against it, you'd say there's no way to know what percentage of the convicted murderers (not all homicides are murders) were registered to vote prior to their felonies, and of those how many actually voted. Registration isn't support. Only voting is support, would you agree?

But since you cannot show that black murderers would be less inclined to register than would white murderers, we can cancel that variable on both sides.

The likely truth is that people who commit these acts aren't doing them for political reasons, with some exceptions. You can use cause vs correlation fallacies all you like and it's the norm here to do so if it benefits your argument.
and voter participation for black people is something like 2/3. and of those homicides, a vast majority of them are committed by people under 35, an age population with a low voter participation rate as well. absent voter participation, its hard to know if the people you are referring to even have relevant political engagement or any actual positions of domestic/foreign policy to the point where there is anything of political significance

so you cant just make a 1:1 conversion like you are trying to do.

[Adam Lambert]

You could probably apply to a police academy and show them what the face of bravery and sacrifice looks like. You know, set an example.

Spare me the "back the blue" dogma. It's not like most cops join the force out of some great moral obligation to bravely serve the community.

The ones who are scared of everyone they pull over for a broken taillight should either (1) find a new line of work, or (2) work with those who are pushing for police reform (which might actually make their jobs less dangerous) instead of against them at the goading of their unions and conservative fear mongers.

[DMC]

Spare me the "back the blue" dogma. It's not like most cops join the force out of some great moral obligation to bravely serve the community.

The ones who are scared of everyone they pull over for a broken taillight should either (1) find a new line of work, or (2) work with those who are pushing for police reform (which might actually make their jobs less dangerous) instead of against them at the goading of their unions and conservative fear mongers.

Cops bad again

[leemajors]

Between the barrage of overpriced merino sweaters from Buck Mason on Congress to the horror of a bachelorette pedal party to the utter hell that is the outdoor mall in the Seaholm district, can you blame him?

I have overheard New York transplants downtown bemoaning the lack of high end shopping in Austin :lol

[Th'Pusher]

most men voted for trump. men commit 80+ % of the murders. therefore murderers support trump.


While DMC made a similar implication, he was clear not to make the claim, “therefore murderers support trump”.

That what he does. And, then he whines about people putting words in his mouth while filling in the gaps he intentionally leaves because he knows the logic isn’t sound. He’s not interested in honest debate. He’s an troll who gets off on the internet rodeo.

I imagine you afford him more leeway because he’s usually smart enough to take grossly illogical positions, but he is a tired old troll nonetheless.

[spurraider21]

While DMC made a similar implication, he was clear not to make the claim, “therefore murderers support trump”.

That what he does. And, then he whines about people putting words in his mouth while filling in the gaps he intentionally leaves because he knows the logic isn’t sound. He’s not interested in honest debate. He’s an troll who gets off on the internet rodeo.

I imagine you afford him more leeway because he’s usually smart enough to take grossly illogical positions, but his a tired old troll nonetheless.
its probably just because he's more articulate than the derps/Qhris's of the world but the content beneath the wording is often just as simple

[DMC]

and voter participation for black people is something like 2/3. and of those homicides, a vast majority of them are committed by people under 35, an age population with a low voter participation rate as well. absent voter participation, its hard to know if the people you are referring to even have relevant political engagement or any actual positions of domestic/foreign policy to the point where there is anything of political significance

so you cant just make a 1:1 conversion like you are trying to do.

This is why I say "likely". The odds favor it.

[spurraider21]

This is why I say "likely". The odds favor it.
do you think the average 22 yo gangbanger who murders someone on the street bases those decisions to kill on a political ideology around the democratic platform? i dont see the link between the violence and the alleged political leaning, as opposed to a gy like McVeigh who was acting out of revenge for Waco and Ruby Ridge?

[DMC]

do you think the average 22 yo gangbanger who murders someone on the street bases those decisions to kill on a political ideology around the democratic platform? i dont see the link between the violence and the alleged political leaning, as opposed to a gy like McVeigh who was acting out of revenge for Waco and Ruby Ridge?

Do you think the guy who shot up Walmart was thinking about lowering taxes on businesses, improving our military, infrastructure, foreign policies?

Revenge isn't a political motive. Revenge is simply a reckoning, has nothing to do with the politics of either party and the actions taken at Ruby Ridge and in Waco were more in line with conservative values than liberal ones. Liberal values would have them talk to the BD's for weeks, or maybe even pay them. At Ruby Ridge, it wouldn't have been to shoot indiscriminately. In fact, they wouldn't have approached at all. They would have simply sent a message and hoped for the best.

The FBI doesn't indicate that the offenders were 22 year old gang bangers. Everyone in that Walmart could have been conservative. It was Walmart after all.

[DMC]

I have overheard New York transplants downtown bemoaning the lack of high end shopping in Austin :lol

Then they haven't been to the Arboretum, same strip mall merchandise at exclusive white folk prices.

[spurraider21]

Do you think the guy who shot up Walmart was thinking about lowering taxes on businesses, improving our military, infrastructure, foreign policies?
those aren't the only potential political motives. killing somebody because they tried to short you on a drug deal is different from shooting civilians because of your outrage at how you believe your government has been prioritizing other people over your preferred race or whatnot. to be frank, i dont know enough about the recent aspiring walmart shooter or what his motives were


Revenge isn't a political motive. Revenge is simply a reckoning, has nothing to do with the politics of either party and the actions taken at Ruby Ridge and in Waco were more in line with conservative values than liberal ones. Liberal values would have them talk to the BD's for weeks, or maybe even pay them. At Ruby Ridge, it wouldn't have been to shoot indiscriminately. In fact, they wouldn't have approached at all. They would have simply sent a message and hoped for the best.

The FBI doesn't indicate that the offenders were 22 year old gang bangers. Everyone in that Walmart could have been conservative. It was Walmart after all.
i couldn't disagree with this more. revenge might be political in nature, it might not be. OJ murdering his wife and lover was an act of revenge, but not seemingly political. bin laden orchestrating the 9/11 attacks was ostensibly one for revenge but for overtly political reasons

they certainly arent mutually exclusive concepts

[DMC]

those aren't the only potential political motives. killing somebody because they tried to short you on a drug deal is different from shooting civilians because of your outrage at how you believe your government has been prioritizing other people over your preferred race or whatnot. to be frank, i dont know enough about the recent aspiring walmart shooter or what his motives were


i couldn't disagree with this more. revenge might be political in nature, it might not be. OJ murdering his wife and lover was an act of revenge, but not seemingly political. bin laden orchestrating the 9/11 attacks was ostensibly one for revenge but for overtly political reasons

they certainly arent mutually exclusive concepts

Most people can have at least one thing they agree with relating to the party opposite the one they support. Crazy people can take things to the extreme. A guy who wants to kill a lot of people can find a lot of reasons to do so, but when they finally decide to do it, they rarely go after the target of their angst. The guy who shot up the baseball game is an exception. The guy who shot up the theater in Aurora wasn't even registered to vote, his motives were more Batman than anything else, he was fucking nuts. When this shit happens, people run to see what cause vs correlation ties they can make to get points for their side. When they find out the person was registered with the same party they are, it's suddenly no longer about politics.

If you're going to say the OKC bomber had a political motive, why would he request to be executed so fast? Why not stick it out to see what happens? It was revenge, plain and simple. Did he want to send a message? You bet, but a lot of revenge acts send a message (drive by shootings, for example). Just because he targeted a federal building doesn't mean he had a political motive, or that he was trying to change the way the feds react to incidents. He was showing that there will be consequences when you kill 80 or so mostly innocent civilians. There will always be a few who are willing to die to repay a debt. You see the guy in Dallas shoot up police. He wasn't making a political point, he was saying individually to these officers, you're not as untouchable as you think.

You cannot just have the revenge motive be political because it suits your argument. Neither of the folks I mentioned were political figures. No one they targeted were political figures. Everyone they targeted were figures of authority that they felt had overstepped their bounds.

The only reason you want it to be political is so you can say it's a problem with the party you rail against. This is old ground, you're just going back over it.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao DMC saying McVeigh wasn't political.

He's dug himself deeper each time I check this thread.

[Winehole23]

Did all that sound good in your head, DMC?

What a stupid pile of horseshit :lmao

[spurraider21]

Suicide bombers can’t be political because they didn’t want to stick around and see how things played out

[DMC]

Suicide bombers can’t be political because they didn’t want to stick around and see how things played out

They aren't political. They are religious. Their handlers are political. OBL didn't strap anything to himself.

[DMC]

Did all that sound good in your head, DMC?

What a stupid pile of horseshit :lmao

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[Nathan89]

It seems like they're content with low paying jobs and being cucked by their own party.

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Seems the endgame is taking care of yourself and not partaking in mass inflation. Sounds terrible.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao DMC speaks for all terrorists

[ChumpDumper]

Seems the endgame is taking care of yourself and not partaking in mass inflation. Sounds terrible.

Did you get vaccinated, Nathan?

Yes or no.

[Nathan89]

Did you get vaccinated, Nathan?

Yes or no.

Why are you asking me about my medical history?

[Winehole23]

https://scttx.com/sites/shelbycountytoday/files/styles/adaptive/public/250_3.jpgSwing and a miss, I’m dead sober.

Det grudge, tho

[ChumpDumper]

Why are you asking me about my medical history?Just curious. It's not illegal for me to ask.

Did you get vaccinated against COVID?

Yes or no.

[DMC]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/non-voters-poll-2020-election/images/NONVOTERS-1026-1.png

by the way

[DMC]

What that says is old, rich white college educated republicans almost always vote.

[ChumpDumper]

What about the murderers?

[Nathan89]

Just curious. It's not illegal for me to ask.

Did you get vaccinated against COVID?

Yes or no.

I'm curious on why you are interested in my medical history.

[DMC]

I'm curious on why you are interested in my medical history.

Best to ignore the clown. You already know the script. Nothing irks the script more than not getting a return ping.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm curious on why you are interested in my medical history.I'm simply interested in whether people are vaccinated against COVID.

I will ask no other questions about your medical history.

If you're afraid to answer on this anonymous message board, just say so. I'll believe that.:tu

I, OTOH, am not afraid to say I am vaccinated against COVID.

I also had an appendectomy when I was 12.

It's an anonymous message board.

[DarrinS]

I'm simply interested in whether people are vaccinated against COVID.

If you're afraid to answer on this anonymous message board, just say so. I'll believe that.:tu

I've had this "super deadly" disease and been double vaxxed.

Haven't worn a mask in over a month. Probably ok to not wear your n95 at Wendy's drive thru. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I've had this "super deadly" disease and been double vaxxed.

Haven't worn a mask in over a month. Probably ok to not wear your n95 at Wendy's drive thru. :lolBut you are afraid of yes or no questions and South Congress.

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:r ollin:rollin:rollin

[DarrinS]

But you are afraid of yes or no questions and South Congress.

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin: rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:r ollin:rollin:rollin


Weird how every progressive Mecca becomes overpriced skid row.

Happy campers. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Weird how every progressive Mecca becomes overpriced skid row.

Happy campers. :lolWhat part of downtown Austin traumatized you s:lol, Darrin?

[Th'Pusher]

What that says is old, rich white college educated republicans almost always vote.

All the more reason to make voting easier and educate people on why voting is important, tbh.

[DarrinS]

What part of downtown Austin traumatized you s:lol, Darrin?

The part with homeless addicts with machetes.

[ChumpDumper]

The part with homeless addicts with machetes.Which part was that specifically, Darrin?

Use your words.

[DarrinS]

Which part was that specifically, Darrin?

Use your words.


Sorry if I can't remember the exact intersection, but some loon was swinging around a machete. Keep Austin weird.

[ChumpDumper]

Sorry if I can't remember the exact intersection, but some loon was swinging around a machete. Keep Austin weird.
Anyone can brandish a gun anywhere in Texas now.

What's the problem, Darrin?

[ChumpDumper]

And Google "machete attack San Antonio" if you really want to shit yourself, Darrin.:lol

[Winehole23]

Sorry if I can't remember the exact intersection, but some loon was swinging around a machete. Keep Austin weird.That was the notorious, short-lived (hipster) Milk Bar, on E.12th St., and that was some years ago. iirc a coked up bar owner attacked one of his partners (was it a bartender?) with a kitana. Oh, the horrors of gentrification.

I don't believe we've had any kitana attacks since then, I could be wrong.

[Winehole23]

This notion that Austin is some kind of crime ridden hellhole based on YoY numbers is simpleminded and laughably off target, but that's no surprise given the source.

[Winehole23]

So, what’s the left wing equivalent of the Jan 6th attack on the US Congress and Electoral College certification?

The constitutional safe harbor has passed, why doesn’t the chatter about reinstalling Trump in August amount to teasing another putsch, since revisiting election results is a legal impossibility?

[Winehole23]

Trump and MAGAlandia literally can’t wait for another election. They want to depose Biden sooner than that.

[Winehole23]

Do you think rebellion is a legit loophole, DMC?

[Winehole23]

Trump and MAGAlandia literally can’t wait for another election. They want to depose Biden sooner than that.Same was true of Obama. He was destroying America, no time to wait.

Only then there weren’t GOP paramilitaries in the picture. Now there are.

[Winehole23]

What are the 3%ers, the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys?

[Winehole23]

What about the murderers?Didn’t bother to attribute the 42% percent of murders not sloppily attributable to black folks, er, Biden voters. Almost like he didn’t care about them.

Defends the right and minimizes its violence, while punching everything to the left of it, like an honest broker does.

[Winehole23]

So Christianity is to blame.

Blame for Waco, blame for OKC. Religion. The ultimate Q

Dead is deadMotive is an element of the crime.

[Winehole23]

Bombing the DOJ in revenge for Waco is a political act— an attack on the US government,

Shooting any brown person you see at the El Paso Walmart because you hate US immigration policy is likewise politically motivated.

So is attacking the US Congress because your guy lost.

[Winehole23]

DMC will be back to argue terms to confuse the plain political significance of all three, ignoring what the perps said for themselves and did.

“SKY GOD” doesn’t cut it. Tim McVeigh didn’t say because God. Neither did the El Paso shooter, nor the Pittsburgh shooter, nor the Poway shooter.

The Jan 6th zanies did it for Trump.

[CosmicCowboy]

Equating all Republicans to the dumbasses that invaded the capital is as dumb as equating all Democrats to Antifa. Both sides have their idiot extremists.

[Winehole23]

Equating all Republicans to the dumbasses that invaded the capital is as dumb as equating all Democrats to Antifa. Both sides have their idiot extremists.Antifa doesn't wave Joe Biden flags, nor have they attacked the US Congress to prevent certiification of a fair election.

On Jan 6th Trump voters attacked the US government waving Trump flags "to stop the steal." Afterwards Trump them that he loved them and that they were special people.

[CosmicCowboy]

Antifa doesn't wave Joe Biden flags, nor have they attacked the US Congress to prevent certiification of a fair election.

On Jan 6th Trump voters attacked the government waving Trump flags. Afterwards Trump them that he loved them and that they were special people.

extremists are extremists. I am glad to see the ones that invaded the capital tracked down and prosecuted. Trump is a disgusting piece of shit and it's a shame he has temporarily hijacked the party. That too will pass.

[vy65]

extremists are extremists. I am glad to see the ones that invaded the capital tracked down and prosecuted. Trump is a disgusting piece of shit and it's a shame he has temporarily hijacked the party. That too will pass.

I agree that, at least conceptually, not R’s are trump supporters (e.g., Mitt Romney). That said, I don’t think you’re right to say “extremists are extremists.” There’s a qualitative difference between those, say, on the left and right. Antifa never staged an insurrection. Nor are militant vegan groups storming the capital. That difference in degree is important.

[Winehole23]

extremists are extremists. I am glad to see the ones that invaded the capital tracked down and prosecuted. Trump is a disgusting piece of shit and it's a shame he has temporarily hijacked the party. That too will pass.We'll see.

When Hilary Clinton lost, she didn't tease rebellion or encourage Democratic Party affiliated paramilitaries, patriots and "real Americans" to depose Donald Trump and overthrow the US government.

[boutons_deux]

"it's a shame he has temporarily hijacked the party. That too will pass."

:lol

nothing temporary, Trashism is the natural expression of fascist Capitalism/Repugliqanism which has been shitting on America for 45+ years.

Trashism is WORSE now, not receded, not "temporary" :lol

because Trash's govt was pure, 100% Repugliqanism, pure Capitalism swampy.

[Winehole23]

American Greatness is back

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[Winehole23]

Claremont Institute openly encouraging civil war and installing Jan. 6th rioters in US government. Claremont counts as a conservative think-tank, right?

[Bogie]

extremists are extremists. I am glad to see the ones that invaded the capital tracked down and prosecuted. Trump is a disgusting piece of shit and it's a shame he has temporarily hijacked the party. That too will pass.


so if trump is so bad, why do you continue to support the party he is the head of?

You don’t disagree with anything today’s r’s represent. And they are all in on bending to whatever whim Donald Trump believes at any moment.

if you really didn’t agree with trump, you would not continue to vote for the people that enable and enact everything he dictates. So it’s obvious you really do support what trump is, and stands for. Otherwise, you certainly would not continue to vote the way to do.

[CosmicCowboy]

so if trump is so bad, why do you continue to support the party he is the head of?

You don’t disagree with anything today’s r’s represent. And they are all in on bending to whatever whim Donald Trump believes at any moment.

if you really didn’t agree with trump, you would not continue to vote for the people that enable and enact everything he dictates. So it’s obvious you really do support what trump is, and stands for. Otherwise, you certainly would not continue to vote the way to do.

It's obvious you are a fucking idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

Equating all Republicans to the dumbasses that invaded the capital is as dumb as equating all Democrats to Antifa. Both sides have their idiot extremists.

1/4 of your party openly espouse extremist views. The rest are fine with those extremists' being in your party.

[CosmicCowboy]

1/4 of your party openly espouse extremist views. The rest are fine with those extremists' being in your party.

1/4 of your party openly espouse extremist views. The rest are fine with those extremists' being in your party.

[Bogie]

It's obvious you are a fucking idiot.

imagine pretending to be outraged on here, when you’re obviously not, then not being able to answer a simple question. You really do support everything trump has made the Republican Party into.

and lying about it, makes you look even dumber

[DMC]

Winehole on a 40 post monkeyshine again :lol

[Bogie]

1/4 of your party openly espouse extremist views. The rest are fine with those extremists' being in your party.

you obviously are. If you weren’t, you wouldn’t vote for the very people that “openly espouse them.”

So by continuing to vote for those very people, you are literally saying you support them and their ideals.