NBA: Lillard vs Curry [Archive] - SpursTalk.com Forums

Seventyniner

06-02-2021, 08:17 AM

Curry on both. Lillard is more of an alpha personality but I don't think that's a good thing in this case. The Durant Warriors wouldn't have been as good with Lillard instead of Curry imo.

Rummpd

06-02-2021, 08:18 AM

Lilliard not even a debate

apalisoc_9

06-02-2021, 08:20 AM

Lillard wasn’t even doubled last night. The closes thing to a double he got was a show in pick and rolls.

Neo.

06-02-2021, 08:55 AM

steph and it's not particularly close

lefty

06-02-2021, 09:28 AM

Steph is a certified choker in the Finals

Put Liillard on the Warriors and they don’t choke 2016

R. DeMurre

06-02-2021, 10:04 AM

Lillard has shot over 40% from deep one time for a season in his entire career, and it was just a hair over. He's a career 37.5% shooter from three. Steph has shot over 40% eleven times, and is a career 43.3% shooter from distance. Curry also has a significantly higher career 2pt% and eFG%. Lillard is closer to Kyle Anderson as a shooter than he is to Steph Curry, and has a lower career 3pt% than Richard Jefferson, Harrison Barnes, Mike Dunleavy, and Evan Fournier. Lillard is fearless, no question, but he's not even in the discussion of all time great shooters in the way that Steph unquestionably is.

Aspergtacular

06-02-2021, 10:37 AM

Neither....both are bench players that media and their narrative chose to prop up .....is it any coincidence their rise to stardom coincided with BLM? Prime Steve Blake shits on both of them but (((they))) did their thing and sabotaged his career while blackballing him from the league even to this day....but i wouldnt expect you sheeple to understand....

Neo.

06-02-2021, 10:46 AM

Steph is a certified choker in the Finals

Put Liillard on the Warriors and they don’t choke 2016

lillard on the 2016 warriors doesnt get past OKC nor win 73 games

steph may not have had the best finals performances, but its incredibly obvious teams fear him far more than dame, and he does a much better job of making the game easier for his teammates

Rummpd

06-02-2021, 12:38 PM

lillard on the 2016 warriors doesnt get past OKC nor win 73 games

steph may not have had the best finals performances, but its incredibly obvious teams fear him far more than dame, and he does a much better job of making the game easier for his teammates

Any big game any clutch time = Lilliard over Curry = end of discussion.

i'm_still_beta

06-02-2021, 12:39 PM

Steph on both

Neo.

06-02-2021, 02:23 PM

Any big game any clutch time = Lilliard over Curry = end of discussion.

lets not act like steph hasnt had his fare share of incredibly clutch moments and huge playoff performances

lets also not act like defenses defend them the same, last night being the perfect example where they continued to leave dame on an island with no doubles or traps because he has a tendency to freeze his teammates out, instead of using his gravity to manipulate defenses into creating open looks for his teammates

KobesAchilles

06-02-2021, 02:39 PM

Last second shot I would take Dame every time. Has Steph even hit one in his career?

**edit** I mean in the playoffs

lefty

06-02-2021, 03:14 PM

Last second shot I would take Dame every time. Has Steph even hit one in his career?

**edit** I mean in the playoffs

:lol Steph choking in the Finals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpjtV4qjJBU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W-APdLyLWE

Robz4000

06-02-2021, 03:27 PM

Curry is the greatest shooter of all time tbh. Right now I'd take Lillard but only because he's three years younger.

Neo.

06-02-2021, 03:28 PM

Last second shot I would take Dame every time. Has Steph even hit one in his career?

**edit** I mean in the playoffs

i dont think he has, but tbh they were pretty much blowing everyone out so they didnt have many opportunities for him to even take such a shot, so not really a fair comparison if he hasnt even had opportunities

i know against new orleans in 2015 he hit a last second shot to send it to OT, which they went on to win, and a few other really big shots late in playoff games, just not a lot of opportunities to shoot game winners

KobesAchilles

06-02-2021, 03:54 PM

i dont think he has, but tbh they were pretty much blowing everyone out so they didnt have many opportunities for him to even take such a shot, so not really a fair comparison if he hasnt even had opportunities

i know against new orleans in 2015 he hit a last second shot to send it to OT, which they went on to win, and a few other really big shots late in playoff games, just not a lot of opportunities to shoot game winners
According to USA Today: Curry has gone 0-for-8 on go-ahead shots with less than 20 seconds left in his NBA playoff career. He's played 112 postseason games.

Neo.

06-02-2021, 06:10 PM

According to USA Today: Curry has gone 0-for-8 on go-ahead shots with less than 20 seconds left in his NBA playoff career. He's played 112 postseason games.

yeah so not exactly a lot of opportunities, probably doubled on most of not all of those shots, while dame is repeatedly left either open or on an island

I'd agree that based on history id take dame in such situations, but I also think that it's unfair to Steph for people to say he's not clutch or a choker simply because he hasn't hit such shots, when situations are far different between him and most other players

KobesAchilles

06-02-2021, 07:40 PM

yeah so not exactly a lot of opportunities, probably doubled on most of not all of those shots, while dame is repeatedly left either open or on an island

I'd agree that based on history id take dame in such situations, but I also think that it's unfair to Steph for people to say he's not clutch or a choker simply because he hasn't hit such shots, when situations are far different between him and most other players

Well to be fair, he IS a choker not only bc of the missed shots but he blew a 3-1 lead in the finals which had never been done before in NBA history. You can’t blow that kinda lead, have the game winner hit in your eye, and not be called a choker

Neo.

06-02-2021, 08:07 PM

Well to be fair, he IS a choker not only bc of the missed shots but he blew a 3-1 lead in the finals which had never been done before in NBA history. You can’t blow that kinda lead, have the game winner hit in your eye, and not be called a choker

to each their own. i dont feel he choked that series, as opposed to the cavs flat out winning it. the cavs were a better team than given credit for being, played like total crap to get into a 3-1 hole to begin with, and lue is a horrible coach. it shouldn't have taken getting into a 3-1 hole to realize that GS was switching every single pick in order to stifle their shooters, and that lebron and kyrie should have been exploiting that from the get go.

Arcadian

06-03-2021, 12:35 AM

Lilliard not even a debate

If you look at the other posts in this thread, you might notice that there is actually a debate going on. :lol

littleavery1948

06-03-2021, 01:10 AM

I would go with Steph, but if it comes down to one shot, I take Dame. When Dame is hot, there is none better. That said, Blazers with Steph would get at least to the WCF.

FrostKing

06-03-2021, 04:10 AM

Great 1vs1

I still take Curry.

Maybe because Lillard is playing in NorthWest. Post Lilard on most Underestimated list.

FrostKing

06-03-2021, 04:16 AM

https://youtu.be/XrTZT49u0kM

lefty

06-03-2021, 08:29 AM

I would go with Steph, but if it comes down to one shot, I take Dame. When Dame is hot, there is none better. That said, Blazers with Steph would get at least to the WCF.

Kyrie is also a clutch mofo

Weird dude, but clutch

Isitjustme?

06-03-2021, 09:57 AM

Steph. Steph.

lefty

06-03-2021, 10:00 AM

But can Matthew Delladelodeladelova stop Lillard?

Isitjustme?

06-03-2021, 10:01 AM

Well to be fair, he IS a choker not only bc of the missed shots but he blew a 3-1 lead in the finals which had never been done before in NBA history. You can’t blow that kinda lead, have the game winner hit in your eye, and not be called a choker

Good point for Dame here..cant lose in the Finals if you never get there

https://media.tenor.com/images/179d8545ca2696b0a1db30213d9dc900/tenor.gif

Isitjustme?

06-03-2021, 10:02 AM

But can Matthew Delladelodeladelova stop Lillard?

Well they're both Western Conference players so only Curry can be stopped by Delly in the playoffs since Dame never faces Eastern Conference teams in the playoffs.

lefty

06-03-2021, 10:03 AM

Well they're both Western Conference players so only Curry can be stopped by Delly in the playoffs since Dame never faces Eastern Conference teams in the playoffs.
It's not like Steph has been playing in a more stacked team while being carried by Alpha Klay and KD

CJ OutOfBoundCOllum is much better than those clowns

/s

Spurtacular

06-03-2021, 10:04 AM

Lillard basically copied everything Curry did, tbh.

lefty

06-03-2021, 10:04 AM

Lillard basically copied everything Curry did, tbh.
Except clutchness imo

KobesAchilles

06-03-2021, 10:12 AM

Good point for Dame here..cant lose in the Finals if you never get there

https://media.tenor.com/images/179d8545ca2696b0a1db30213d9dc900/tenor.gif
:lol

It's similar to the age old question, why do I still have as many finals appearances than CP3?

Truly though, Dame does deserve better. I think both franchises are failing their stars though. Maxing out Donkey was extremely stupid. Not shoring up the bench is a horrible move. Bob Meyers is mailing it in now and nobody will call him out for it even though it was Jerry West who built the damn thing. Steph and Dame are wasting their time in these places. They should move East... so the Spurs can make the playoffs :lol

lefty

06-03-2021, 10:17 AM

. They should move East... so the Spurs can make the playoffs :lol
:lol

Spurtacular

06-03-2021, 10:39 AM

Except clutchness imo

True. But my point is Lillard might've been the next Marbury instead if the league hadn't changed up their sh** to accomodate the Curry style.

Neo.

06-03-2021, 11:15 AM

True. But my point is Lillard might've been the next Marbury instead if the league hadn't changed up their sh** to accomodate the Curry style.

except they didnt change anything to accommodate currys style, major changes happened many years before curry even came into the league

curry implemented a style of his own

Spurtacular

06-03-2021, 11:19 AM

except they didnt change anything to accommodate currys style, major changes happened many years before curry even came into the league

curry implemented a style of his own

Pity reply.

lefty

06-03-2021, 11:24 AM

except they didnt change anything to accommodate currys style, major changes happened many years before curry even came into the league

curry implemented a style of his own

Neo.

06-03-2021, 11:51 AM

Pity reply.

feel free to back up your claim derp

Ed Helicopter Jones

06-03-2021, 12:53 PM

I think Curry is the better overall shooter and probably better at getting his teammates involved and setting them up. So Curry, Curry for me (although I like Lillard a lot better and would always root for him against Steph).

SpursforSix

06-03-2021, 01:43 PM

Lillard never had to rely on a teammate taking out the other team's best player to win a series.

DMC

06-03-2021, 01:53 PM

Lillard never had to rely on a teammate taking out the other team's best player to win a series.

Especially anything past the 2nd round.

TDomination

06-03-2021, 02:46 PM

:lol

It's similar to the age old question, why do I still have as many finals appearances than CP3?

Truly though, Dame does deserve better. I think both franchises are failing their stars though. Maxing out Donkey was extremely stupid. Not shoring up the bench is a horrible move. Bob Meyers is mailing it in now and nobody will call him out for it even though it was Jerry West who built the damn thing. Steph and Dame are wasting their time in these places. They should move East... so the Spurs can make the playoffs :lol

But Lacob said their light years ahead of every other team

Spurtacular

06-03-2021, 03:14 PM

feel free to back up your claim derp

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3ov9jP8AzL4bXqL6GQ/200.gif

Neo.

06-03-2021, 03:18 PM

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3ov9jP8AzL4bXqL6GQ/200.gif

derp folds

thanks for playing :tu

Isitjustme?

06-03-2021, 04:26 PM

Truly though, Dame does deserve better.

I like Lilland and I'm sure Dame would do much better with more talent around him but his style is very "heliocentric" (the term the stat nerds use for an offense where one guy does everything aka like Luka in Dallas but Dames not as good as Luka obv). So maybe his talents wouldnt translate as well as Steph seeing as how Curry can do both the heliocentric thing but also like the Reggie Miller/Ray Allen running all around the halfcourt with multiple screens to get open and drawing the defenses attention shit. Dame could do that too but I dont think hes of the elite level shooter skills that Curry, Allen, and Miller are. Defense freak out and overreact to every move and set of screens those type of guys make when running around to get open and it makes everything easier on their offense. Curry is also not great on D but better than dame since he has good instincts (he led the league in steals twice while Dame's career high is 1.2 steals per game).

R. DeMurre

06-03-2021, 07:02 PM

Lillard has made it to the conference finals one time, where he lost to Steph's team 4-0. Steph's been to the conference finals five times, won all five, won three titles, been the MVP twice, won 73 games in a season, and won 67 games twice-- all things Lillard hasn't come close to doing. His career shooting percentages are much higher, as are his playoff and regular season averages. Lillard's a damn good player, but it's like comparing Pascal Siakam or Al Horford to Tim Duncan... good players for sure. Not Tim Duncan.

lefty

06-03-2021, 07:08 PM

R. DeMurre

06-03-2021, 10:48 PM

Wow imagine if Curry had the better team

Wait….

Imagine if Duncan didn't have Robinson, Ginobili, and Parker.

R. DeMurre

06-03-2021, 10:59 PM

Wow imagine if Curry had the better team

Wait….

Lillard has shot over 40% from deep one time for a season in his entire career, and it was just a hair over. He's a career 37.5% shooter from three. Steph has shot over 40% eleven times, and is a career 43.3% shooter from distance. Curry also has a significantly higher career 2pt% and eFG%. Lillard is closer to Kyle Anderson as a shooter than he is to Steph Curry, and has a lower career 3pt% than Richard Jefferson, Harrison Barnes, Mike Dunleavy, and Evan Fournier. Lillard is fearless, no question, but he's not even in the discussion of all time great shooters in the way that Steph unquestionably is.