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davi78239
06-02-2021, 09:39 AM
Would y’all take him on the spurs staff at some capacity??

R. DeMurre
06-02-2021, 09:42 AM
If he's willing to sweep up around the AT&T center after games, sure, why not?

Maybe do a little painting before summer.

EasyMoney
06-02-2021, 09:49 AM
Isn't he that guy that hoardes draft picks? . I'll consider it.

MultiTroll
06-02-2021, 10:10 AM
Flat Earther for Kwa Leonard was one of Ainges huge ops blown.

PrimeMinister
06-02-2021, 10:12 AM
The guy famous for not pulling the trigger on trades joining the ranks of an FO famous for not pulling the trigger on trades

As much as it would make sense....no. Spurs brought in Danny ferry as their customary stubborn, aging white guy.

look_at_g_shred
06-02-2021, 10:18 AM
Wonder if this makes Tatum/brown want to leave...we have cap space for the next disgruntled star..

PrimeMinister
06-02-2021, 10:23 AM
Wonder if this makes Tatum/brown want to leave...we have cap space for the next disgruntled star..

NBA is due for a star to request out and the writing on the wall has been there for one of Tatum or brown since their early season struggles.

if the new regime in Boston feels that pressure and gets desperate- we have the perfect sign and trade candidate leaving San Antonio.

KobesAchilles
06-02-2021, 10:26 AM
What did he ever offer us for Kawhi? Was it Jaylen Brown only?
Also crazy that golden boy Brad Stevens only lasted like 8 years as a coach. Just goes to show how difficult it is to coach in today's NBA with whiney divas. People give shit to Pop but the fact that he's been able to deal with the bullshit of today's NBA at his age is impressive. Retire in peace my friend

cd98
06-02-2021, 11:31 AM
This is the guy willing to trade guys with names well past their primes for first round draft picks. Bc he was great at compiling assets, all potential trade partners always asked too much. But he was a highly successful GM that put together a championship team through trades and who drafted pretty good as well. Solid GM.

GreekSpursfan
06-02-2021, 12:09 PM
The triggerless GM,pass. He build his reputation by fleecing the worst GM ever, one time and that was it. From then on he proceeded to do absolutely nothing and wasted a few assets in the process of doing nothing.

R. DeMurre
06-02-2021, 12:15 PM
I wonder how much Ainge's personality played into star players leaving... Losing Kyrie and Hayward for little to no compensation was rough. Player personalities are always going to be complex to predict, but losing 2/5ths of a playoff team's starting line up has to be a concern with regard to the overall attractiveness & appeal of the franchise.

CGD
06-02-2021, 12:35 PM
Nah, but when Bucks fire Bud after the next round I'd take him to replace Pop. Bud would be a good coach for where the Spurs are right now in their cycle.

JeffDuncan
06-02-2021, 12:40 PM
We’re officially in the Silly Season now, since it’s after Memorial Day, but on Spurstalk it’s the silly season all year long.

rjv
06-02-2021, 01:07 PM
ainge is a d-bag.

KingKev
06-02-2021, 01:12 PM
I wonder how much Ainge's personality played into star players leaving... Losing Kyrie and Hayward for little to no compensation was rough. Player personalities are always going to be complex to predict, but losing 2/5ths of a playoff team's starting line up has to be a concern with regard to the overall attractiveness & appeal of the franchise.

like losing DDR and LMA for nothing? He has had more successes in the last 5 years than PATFO.

KingKev
06-02-2021, 01:16 PM
Ainge will bounce back. San Antonio is not on any accomplished basketball professional's radar. They may respect our organization and culture but if you are already financially set why would you ever want to work in this organization, unless you have local roots? This holds true for a coach, gm or player. We would be lucky to have someone like Ainge even take an interview.

R. DeMurre
06-02-2021, 02:02 PM
like losing DDR and LMA for nothing?

That's the analogy I was making.

spurraider21
06-02-2021, 02:44 PM
100% if he wants the gig

spurraider21
06-02-2021, 02:47 PM
The guy famous for not pulling the trigger on trades joining the ranks of an FO famous for not pulling the trigger on trades

As much as it would make sense....no. Spurs brought in Danny ferry as their customary stubborn, aging white guy.
traded for KG
traded for Ray Allen

won a chip and made 2 finals

then traded KG and Pierce in one of the best trades in nba history

traded Isaiah Thomas for Kyrie which was another steal

he has been more trigger-shy in recent years, but thats a hell of a resume

Spurtacular
06-02-2021, 03:00 PM
Brad Stevens taking his job; snake in the grass?

KingKev
06-02-2021, 04:05 PM
Brad Stevens taking his job; snake in the grass?

They went another route. Ainge did great things over a long tenure but shit the bed recently; whether he was just unlucky, his own hubris or simply not engaged he fked up multiple times the last few years. Sound familiar? If only PATFO had 1/10th of the accountability we would have a decent future as an organization. Someone had to take the fall in bean and it was Ainge. PATFO could learn something from this.

MultiTroll
06-02-2021, 04:49 PM
Brad Stevens taking his job; snake in the grass?
Or he and others have been asking BOPAFO (Bostons version of PAFO) to make some glaringly obvious moves and AingePop wouldn't move?

Would be nice to know.
Don't know how real Boston media keeps it or if they're a lesser version of Pop Nuetured San Antone media.

cjw
06-02-2021, 05:13 PM
The triggerless GM,pass. He build his reputation by fleecing the worst GM ever, one time and that was it. From then on he proceeded to do absolutely nothing and wasted a few assets in the process of doing nothing.

Don’t forget he dumped damaged goods on the Cavs to bring in Kyrie. Tatum and Brown turned out to be good picks. Brown was picked ahead of several duds. In Tatum’s draft the rest of the top ten littered with role players to trash (outside of Fox). Got unlucky with the Hayward injury in his first game with the team and that severely limited the ceiling.

But he absolutely screwed up the rest of roster management, and got greedy when it came to sign & trades of guys leaving town. And the draft record outside of Tatum / Brown has been bad ... especially the past few drafts.

They squandered the best opportunity in the league in terms of assets and not even a finals appearance the past decade to show for it.

poopbox
06-02-2021, 06:59 PM
Regardless of what we think of Bryan Wright and Pop at least they didn't max a point guard that everyone knew had knee problems like Ainge did.

Mr. Body
06-02-2021, 07:37 PM
Brad Stevens taking his job; snake in the grass?

When the Hoosiers went big to get Stevens, that's when the deal was probably put in place. Feel like Ainge's days have been numbered all season and Stevens shoved him out the door.

Ocotillo
06-02-2021, 07:56 PM
Look for him to be a consultant for Utah down the road.

exstatic
06-02-2021, 10:00 PM
Isn't he that guy that hoardes draft picks? . I'll consider it.

You misspelled ‘squanders’. That huge haul, and no title. Not even a Finals appearance.

tbdog
06-03-2021, 03:48 AM
Ainge not trading for Leonard when he had brown and firsts to spare was his biggest downfall. You don't get that huge haul from the nets and not use it when the best player in the league was available. The price was all-star, one youth and a first. He could have just offered brown, smart and two first, and it's a done deal.

Ice009
06-03-2021, 05:44 AM
I don't give a crap about Danny Ainge. He should have trade for Kawhi, but he was too stringy greedy. Who knows, he might have been able to trade for Anthony Davis too if he wasn't so greedy with his assets. Not sure if he could have had both, but he could have had at least one of those guys IMO.

Ed Helicopter Jones
06-03-2021, 01:00 PM
The Celtics have definitely underachieved. As others have said, Ainge should have gambled a bit more to put a better team on the floor. He was a little too conservative with his assets and it cost the team...and him.

TD 21
06-03-2021, 04:09 PM
Ainge not trading for Leonard when he had brown and firsts to spare was his biggest downfall. You don't get that huge haul from the nets and not use it when the best player in the league was available. The price was all-star, one youth and a first. He could have just offered brown, smart and two first, and it's a done deal.

:lmao At referring to Scumbag as the best player in the league, blaming Ainge for not pulling the trigger or thinking he'd have needed to add Smart and two 1sts to Brown when the Spurs couldn't get a foundational piece to begin with.

The '18-'19 Celtics were destined to be mired in turmoil (too much depth, youth + Horford took them to game 7 of the ECF, Irving and Hayward were set to return) and suffice it to say, he'd have exacerbated it, then signed with the Clippers anyway. In the meantime, they'd have lost out long term on a young, budding All-Star caliber wing.

Maybe Ainge was too conservative at times and the recent draft record sans Tatum and Brown wasn't great, but they also had a lot of bad luck, unlike the historically lucky Raptors, who didn't have to give up anything of consequence yet have received endless praise since.

The Truth #6
06-03-2021, 04:18 PM
I don't know. Kawhi was one of the best 1-3 players in the league when he (we) got ZaZa'ed, and the league was slow in realizing how good he was. So, I hate Kawhi for faking his injury next season (basically) and Ainge can kick rocks for not offering us a better package. Granted, our FO isn't good in these situations, but I'm glad Ainge didn't win a last title. Having said that, I think people are underestimating him here. His last few years took a nose dive, yes, but overall he was someone who was able to put together deals. He was a dick, obvioiusly. A total tool. And I still have fond memories of Sedeale Threate punching him in the face. But that's another story.

https://youtu.be/oWcoOmtfcXs

MultiTroll
06-03-2021, 04:27 PM
While this shouldn't matter technically to Beckys decision if offered, who are we kidding it does.

Isn't Boston super alphabet friendly?

Patriot posters?

tbdog
06-03-2021, 04:45 PM
:lmao At referring to Scumbag as the best player in the league, blaming Ainge for not pulling the trigger or thinking he'd have needed to add Smart and two 1sts to Brown when the Spurs couldn't get a foundational piece to begin with.

The '18-'19 Celtics were destined to be mired in turmoil (too much depth, youth + Horford took them to game 7 of the ECF, Irving and Hayward were set to return) and suffice it to say, he'd have exacerbated it, then signed with the Clippers anyway. In the meantime, they'd have lost out long term on a young, budding All-Star caliber wing.

Maybe Ainge was too conservative at times and the recent draft record sans Tatum and Brown wasn't great, but they also had a lot of bad luck, unlike the historically lucky Raptors, who didn't have to give up anything of consequence yet have received endless praise since.

Leonard's last playoff run was historic before the Zaza take out. He turned it on. He was the best player in the playoffs. He then did it again on his next playoff run with raptors. If ainge pulls that trigger, they win the title. Remember, Leonard was close to resigning with Raptors. Perhaps he thinks tatum is better than PG and he resigns.

TD 21
06-03-2021, 05:06 PM
Leonard's last playoff run was historic before the Zaza take out. He turned it on. He was the best player in the playoffs. He then did it again on his next playoff run with raptors. If ainge pulls that trigger, they win the title. Remember, Leonard was close to resigning with Raptors. Perhaps he thinks tatum is better than PG and he resigns.

It didn't last long enough to proclaim that.

The next one, he rested 95 games over 2 seasons, ended up on the most complete team in the league (which existed in the form they did because his antics led to a pennies on the dollar trade, tainting it), saw the best team in the league decimated by injury and still barely eked it out over them and the relative neophytes fronting the 76ers and Bucks.

No chance that Celtics team was winning the title and Scumbag was just using the Raptors to get what he wanted from the Clippers which was not just George, but autonomy.

tbdog
06-03-2021, 09:41 PM
It didn't last long enough to proclaim that.

The next one, he rested 95 games over 2 seasons, ended up on the most complete team in the league (which existed in the form they did because his antics led to a pennies on the dollar trade, tainting it), saw the best team in the league decimated by injury and still barely eked it out over them and the relative neophytes fronting the 76ers and Bucks.

No chance that Celtics team was winning the title and Scumbag was just using the Raptors to get what he wanted from the Clippers which was not just George, but autonomy.

You're simultaneously under rating Leonard while over rating their role players.

Auspur
06-04-2021, 06:27 PM
Sedeale threate came down to Melbourne,Australia in the mid 2000s, I’m pretty sure he owned an And1 franchise and played domestic bball with his team called And1 also.
It was amazing to see an ex nba player playing in a local league in oz.
Completeky off topic but I thought I’d share it. ��

TD 21
06-05-2021, 05:58 PM
You're simultaneously under rating Leonard while over rating their role players.

Vice versa.

He keeps fooling casuals because his teams lack the amount of prime star, counting stat types typically associated with championship contenders, especially in this era. But the Clippers, for example, are way more complete than the Nets.

cd98
06-06-2021, 02:08 AM
Ainge wisely didn’t pull the trigger on Kawhi bc it was easily foreseeable that Kawhi was operating under a manipulative uncle and both we orchestrating his return to LA. Any assets given up were a one year rental. And given the way GSW looked before injuries in the finals, hard to see you cash in a bunch of assets for a one year rental that claimed he was injured and might sit out the year anyway. Kawhi tanked his value to Ainge and everyone else.

Ainge thought Kyrie was more than just a one year rental and he got hoodwinked on that deal, but he didn’t lose a lot of assets on that deal. If he had done that and the Kawhi deal, he’d be Billy King bad.

exstatic
06-06-2021, 10:58 AM
Ainge wisely didn’t pull the trigger on Kawhi bc it was easily foreseeable that Kawhi was operating under a manipulative uncle and both we orchestrating his return to LA. Any assets given up were a one year rental. And given the way GSW looked before injuries in the finals, hard to see you cash in a bunch of assets for a one year rental that claimed he was injured and might sit out the year anyway. Kawhi tanked his value to Ainge and everyone else.

Ainge thought Kyrie was more than just a one year rental and he got hoodwinked on that deal, but he didn’t lose a lot of assets on that deal. If he had done that and the Kawhi deal, he’d be Billy King bad.

Kawhi wasn’t going to sit out anywhere but here. Even though Toronto got a rental, they got a fucking trophy out of it, which is more than Ainge produced with his greedy stash of picks. There were also other options. Maybe he throws a wad of picks at OKC for PG13, cock blocking the Clippers, and getting the player Kawhi wanted.

cd98
06-07-2021, 08:31 AM
Kawhi wasn’t going to sit out anywhere but here. Even though Toronto got a rental, they got a fucking trophy out of it, which is more than Ainge produced with his greedy stash of picks. There were also other options. Maybe he throws a wad of picks at OKC for PG13, cock blocking the Clippers, and getting the player Kawhi wanted.

Ainge won a title as GM and he did it wheeling and dealing and trading picks. Toronto wouldn’t have won a title but for KD and Thompson getting season ending injuries in the finals. Say what you want about Ainge, but “hoarding” draft picks is a stupid criticism. He wants to build a great team, not trade away all his assets for a one year rental. And who guarantees Kawhi plays going into that year? There was even talk the Raptors were nervous after the trade. It’s not dumb to hoard draft picks and then just use them to draft the players you like and have them on rookie deals. That’s what the Thunder is doing.

exstatic
06-07-2021, 10:43 AM
Ainge won a title as GM and he did it wheeling and dealing and trading picks. Toronto wouldn’t have won a title but for KD and Thompson getting season ending injuries in the finals. Say what you want about Ainge, but “hoarding” draft picks is a stupid criticism. He wants to build a great team, not trade away all his assets for a one year rental. And who guarantees Kawhi plays going into that year? There was even talk the Raptors were nervous after the trade. It’s not dumb to hoard draft picks and then just use them to draft the players you like and have them on rookie deals. That’s what the Thunder is doing.

The Ray Allen trade contained no picks. The KG trade had two late Boston first rounders, picks in the 20s. I’m talking about the cache of picks they got when they dumped KG and Pierce on the Nets, much better picks, and they amounted to nothing.

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-07-2021, 10:55 AM
The Ray Allen trade contained no picks. The KG trade had two late Boston first rounders, picks in the 20s. I’m talking about the cache of picks they got when they dumped KG and Pierce on the Nets, much better picks, and they amounted to nothing.

These picks amounted to Tatum and Brown, tbh. They've messed up badly constructing their roster in the last couple of seasons but their window is going to be open a while.

exstatic
06-07-2021, 06:03 PM
These picks amounted to Tatum and Brown, tbh. They've messed up badly constructing their roster in the last couple of seasons but their window is going to be open a while.

Not as long as you think, and it may have closed with Kyrie leaving. He’s a weirdo, but he has All NBA talent, and Walker doesn’t. They also essentially exchanged Hayward for Fournier. This is a series of downward moves.