2021 Spurstalk Fantasy League

[look_at_g_shred]

Ok bozo's. I'm commishing this year. Let me know if you are in. I don't know if everyone that is on the sleeper app is doing it again this year. $100 as always. Thanks.

[SpursforSix]

Ok bozo's. I'm commishing this year. Let me know if you are in. I don't know if everyone that is on the sleeper app is doing it again this year. $100 as always. Thanks.

Funny...I was just thinking it's about time to start this thread.

I'm in.

[SpursforSix]

ColinB (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19960) Holden_Caulfield spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) phxspurfan (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5132) djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) Trill Clinton (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20413) chunticakes (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20382) DJR210 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42671)

[spurraider21]

sign me up

really enjoyed the way we were able to draft on sleeper last time

[chunticakes]

ColinB (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19960) Holden_Caulfield (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=23326) spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) phxspurfan (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5132) djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) Trill Clinton (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20413) chunticakes (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20382) DJR210 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42671)

You know I'm always in. The question is, what boneheaded 1st round trade are you gonna make this year?

[SpursforSix]

You know I'm always in. The question is, what boneheaded 1st round trade are you gonna make this year?

That depends on my draft position sir.

[chunticakes]

That depends on my draft position sir.

Give me the rights to Fatnette.

[SpursforSix]

Give me the rights to Fatnette.

Done. As long as I get Godwin back somehow.

[spurraider21]

You know I'm always in. The question is, what boneheaded 1st round trade are you gonna make this year?
the real question is what shit tier jaguars backup player is jay going to dump all of his FAAB on before the season even starts?

[look_at_g_shred]

That depends on my draft position sir.
Man that trade was awesome......for me :)

[SpursforSix]

Man that trade was awesome......for me :)

plus your Kupp > Thomas was accurate last season

[spurraider21]

im still happy with my Drake for Waller trade :hat

[chunticakes]

im still happy with my Drake for Waller trade :hat

Hey, Drake's my boy. Leave him out of this.

[ColinB]

I’m in. I missed y’all last year.

[SpursforSix]

I’m in. I missed y’all last year.

Here's the season recap...Jay took Fournette in the third round and never recovered.

[Trill Clinton]

I'm in.

[BD24]

I might be in this year...able to pm me details on rule sets and where we are playing(what’s site/league)?

[SpursforSix]

I might be in this year...able to pm me details on rule sets and where we are playing(what’s site/league)?

I don't know if any Pm'd you but it's full point PPR (6 points passing) / 1 QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1 Flex (or maybe it was 2), 1 TE, 1 D.
Playing on Sleeper.

[BD24]

I don't know if any Pm'd you but it's full point PPR (6 points passing) / 1 QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1 Flex (or maybe it was 2), 1 TE, 1 D.
Playing on Sleeper.
Is sleeper just the platform? Haven’t heard of that one. Just doing like a snake draft on there?

[SpursforSix]

Is sleeper just the platform? Haven’t heard of that one. Just doing like a snake draft on there?

Yeah...we just moved to Sleeper last year. It's a platform. Also a very popular sports news aggregator. Yes...we do a snake draft on there and then run the season through them.

[BD24]

Yeah...we just moved to Sleeper last year. It's a platform. Also a very popular sports news aggregator. Yes...we do a snake draft on there and then run the season through them.
Cool I’m in if y’all still need people. Can shoot an invite over in dm whenever you get a chance

[SpursforSix]

Cool I’m in if y’all still need people. Can shoot an invite over in dm whenever you get a chance

Sounds good. Just keep checking in with this thread or DM the OP. He's running things this season.

[look_at_g_shred]

Anyone that is in the league, please pay up so we can set the draft date. Thanks.

[spurraider21]

i've already paid in. and generally flexible with draft date.

[SpursforSix]

Anyone that is in the league, please pay up so we can set the draft date. Thanks.

Damn. I didn't know it was already set up to pay. Will do today.

[look_at_g_shred]

As it stands now, 6 of the 12 players have not paid.

[BD24]

Joined and paid up yesterday. Also flexible on draft date on my end

[SpursforSix]

Paid up you gaywad

I don't care about slow draft or not. I'll dominate either way.

[BD24]

Paid up you gaywad

I don't care about slow draft or not. I'll dominate either way.
Bend over, I’ll show you domination.

[spurraider21]

chunticakes (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20382) and Trill Clinton get on sleeper and pay your dues

[Trill Clinton]

post the link to the sleeper

[chunticakes]

post the link to the sleeper

This.

[look_at_g_shred]

post the link to the sleeper
I'll Dm it to you.

[look_at_g_shred]

This.
I'll DM it to you.

[look_at_g_shred]

I’m in. I missed y’all last year.
Are you still interested? I may need to fill the last spot.

[ColinB]

Are you still interested? I may need to fill the last spot.

Yes, I’ll play

[look_at_g_shred]

Yes, I’ll play
Alright, if I don't hear a reply from the other guy within a few hours, i'll send you the league link. I'll let you know.

[SpursforSix]

Alright, if I don't hear a reply from the other guy within a few hours, i'll send you the league link. I'll let you know.

Colin's an old timer. Let that mother fucker play.

[look_at_g_shred]

Yes, I’ll play
I PM'd you the link to join.

[ColinB]

In and paid. Glad to be back. Was hoping chunticakes was paying my dues this year.

[SpursforSix]

getting close...man...the 11 spot sucks

[DeadlyDynasty]

We have a dynasty league and you can keep up to 7 players. I'm keeping Wilson, Tyreek, Hopkins, and maybe Lockett. I'm not too worried about RB because outside of 4 of them (already all keepers), it's pretty much a negligent difference from the next 5 to 15.

With that said, if I stay as I currently am with those keepers I'd be picking 2nd and like 12th or some shit. I feel like I have to take Pitts first at TE, then a RB (we only have one RB spot in out league now, we added another flex instead).

Would you draft Pitts in my position or someone else?

[SpursforSix]

We have a dynasty league and you can keep up to 7 players. I'm keeping Wilson, Tyreek, Hopkins, and maybe Lockett. I'm not too worried about RB because outside of 4 of them (already all keepers), it's pretty much a negligent difference from the next 5 to 15.

With that said, if I stay as I currently am with those keepers I'd be picking 2nd and like 12th or some shit. I feel like I have to take Pitts first at TE, then a RB (we only have one RB spot in out league now, we added another flex instead).

Would you draft Pitts in my position or someone else?

Not sure if this is PPR or Standard but I'd go with Pitts. By all accounts, he should be a top 5 or 6 TE this year with some upside. And should only get better at a tough position to fill in fantasy.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Not sure if this is PPR or Standard but I'd go with Pitts. By all accounts, he should be a top 5 or 6 TE this year with some upside. And should only get better at a tough position to fill in fantasy.
Bend over, I’ll fill your TE.

yeah not having a viable TE the last 5-6 years has held me back. Yes, only PPR forever and always

[spurraider21]

We have a dynasty league and you can keep up to 7 players. I'm keeping Wilson, Tyreek, Hopkins, and maybe Lockett. I'm not too worried about RB because outside of 4 of them (already all keepers), it's pretty much a negligent difference from the next 5 to 15.

With that said, if I stay as I currently am with those keepers I'd be picking 2nd and like 12th or some shit. I feel like I have to take Pitts first at TE, then a RB (we only have one RB spot in out league now, we added another flex instead).

Would you draft Pitts in my position or someone else?
depends on the drat board but yeah, hard to get away from Pitts

definitely keep Lockett.

[spurraider21]

BD24 you're otc

[FkLA]

Hey faggots, y'all should've invited me.

I got a question though...whats your opinion of me offering up Chris Carson for Myles Gaskin? I picked up Gaskin last year around mid season and dude was an absolute workhorse when healthy (staying healthy is my one concern with him, although the same can be said for Carson). Im a lot higher on Gaskin than most, and think most people would say I'd lose out on that trade. His value only increases if MIA somehow lands Watson too.

[spurraider21]

Hey faggots, y'all should've invited me.

I got a question though...whats your opinion of me offering up Chris Carson for Myles Gaskin? I picked up Gaskin last year around mid season and dude was an absolute workhorse when healthy (staying healthy is my one concern with him, although the same can be said for Carson). Im a lot higher on Gaskin than most, and think most people would say I'd lose out on that trade. His value only increases if MIA somehow lands Watson too.
carson > gaskin

i like gaskin too. but carson is just a better play. watson isn't happening

[spurraider21]

BD24 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49511) you're otc
You killed 8 hours with your back to back picks. Enjoy your auto picks :lol

[BD24]

Yea Carson is the easy choice of the above

[spurraider21]

Yea Carson is the easy choice of the above
you're OTC again

[spurraider21]

fun draft

Critical Race Theory

QB - Dak Prescott
WR - Stefon Diggs
WR - Julio Jones
RB - Saquon Barkley
RB - AJ Dillon
TE - George Kittle
Flex - Odell Beckham Jr.
Flex - Laviska Shenault

Bench

RB - Tony Pollard
RB - J.D. McKissic
RB - Justin Jackson
WR - Will Fuller
WR - Tyrell Williams
WR - Rondale Moore

[SpursforSix]

here's what I got...

QB - Tom Brady
RB - Aaron Jones
RB - Damien Williams
WR - Calvin Ridley
WR - Keenan Allen
TE - TJ Hockenson
Flex - Robert Woods
Flex - Mike Williams
D - Baltimore

Bench
RB - Zach Moss
RB - Gio Bernard
RB - Tony Jones
WR - Michael Gallup
WR - Nico Case
D - Cleveland

[DeadlyDynasty]

depends on the drat board but yeah, hard to get away from Pitts

definitely keep Lockett.
Keeping him:tu

Looks like I will get Pitts at #2 tonight, but who’s the best RB available when I make my next pick at #5? Everybody assumes Najee Harris is going #1.

Other than Harris, these available RBs are the next 10 highest projected(PPR):

-Miles Sanders
-Chase Edmonds
-Myles Gaskin (my reluctant frontrunner)
-Mike Davis
-Raheem Mostert
-Darrell Henderson
-Javonte Williams (really high on him, but Gordon…)
-Leonard Fournette
-Damian Harris
-Melvin Gordon

Slim pickings. Also, what do y’all think of Michel on Rams? They love to pound the rock and Henderson is more of a plodder than Michel.

help

[DeadlyDynasty]

Also, we have IDPs in our league, I need a starter who also returns kicks at a decent clip. I’m thinking DJ Reed from Seattle unless someone knows a better option

[spurraider21]

Keeping him:tu

Looks like I will get Pitts at #2 tonight, but who’s the best RB available when I make my next pick at #5? Everybody assumes Najee Harris is going #1.

Other than Harris, these available RBs are the next 10 highest projected(PPR):

-Miles Sanders
-Chase Edmonds
-Myles Gaskin (my reluctant frontrunner)
-Mike Davis
-Raheem Mostert
-Darrell Henderson
-Javonte Williams (really high on him, but Gordon…)
-Leonard Fournette
-Damian Harris
-Melvin Gordon

Slim pickings. Also, what do y’all think of Michel on Rams? They love to pound the rock and Henderson is more of a plodder than Michel.

help
in dynasty i would imagine it had to be Javonte. Gordon is old and on an expiring deal

javonte will be a 1st/2nd round redraft value next season almost certainly

[DeadlyDynasty]

My final lineup:

QB - Russell Wilson
RB - Myles Gaskin
WR - Tyreek Hill
WR - DeAndre Hopkins
TE - Kyle Pitts
Flex - Tyler Lockett
Flex - JuJu Smith-Schuster
IDP - Zach Cunningham
D/ST - Rams
K - Tyler Bass

BE - Jalen Hurts
BE - Mike Williams
BE - Devin Singletary
BE - Jamaal Williams
BE - Tyler Higbee

no depth

[spurraider21]

My final lineup:

QB - Russell Wilson
RB - Myles Gaskin
WR - Tyreek Hill
WR - DeAndre Hopkins
TE - Kyle Pitts
Flex - Tyler Lockett
Flex - JuJu Smith-Schuster
IDP - Zach Cunningham
D/ST - Rams
K - Tyler Bass

BE - Jalen Hurts
BE - Mike Williams
BE - Devin Singletary
BE - Jamaal Williams
BE - Tyler Higbee

no depth
1RB league?

[DeadlyDynasty]

1RB league?
Yes, we subtracted a RB and went with 2 flexes because RBs are garbage and being phased out of the NFL. There’s barely a handful you can count on each year

[spurraider21]

Yes, we subtracted a RB and went with 2 flexes because RBs are garbage and being phased out of the NFL. There’s barely a handful you can count on each year
Hm. I think 2RB 3WR and 1-2 flex should be the standard. Still think there’s plenty of room for 2RB

[BD24]

Hm. I think 2RB 3WR and 1-2 flex should be the standard. Still think there’s plenty of room for 2RB
100% unless you are playing in something crazy like a 14+team league everyone should have the opportunity to have at least 2 decent running backs imo.

if you look at the top 24 running backs and top 24 wide receivers last year in half ppr league the numbers are pretty comparable.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Nah, all 12 owners were in favor of the change, RB is an antiquated position and not worth wasting 2 roster spots on. We pride ourselves on adapting to the new NFL and rbs have a negligent impact on team success. We gravitated to PPR over a decade ago before it was becoming the standard and we never went for that “TD pass is worth 4 instead of 6 points” horseshit that these weak leagues play.

it’s a passing league and has been that way for several years…fantasy should adapt to the reality. It’s sad when you have to make roster concessions for middling rbs when you can add a boss flex instead, which is more indicative of NFL success anyways.

the only scoring we’re lacking is 1pt for 1st down conversions, but ESPN doesn’t offer it. If it did, perhaps the 2nd RB wouldn’t be as obsolete as it is today.

If you’re being honest with yourself there’s no reason to keep 2 (mandatory) rbs outside of “muh tradition”

[ColinB]

Damn, I like the 1 RB. Haven't done that before.

[BD24]

Nah, all 12 owners were in favor of the change, RB is an antiquated position and not worth wasting 2 roster spots on. We pride ourselves on adapting to the new NFL and rbs have a negligent impact on team success. We gravitated to PPR over a decade ago before it was becoming the standard and we never went for that “TD pass is worth 4 instead of 6 points” horseshit that these weak leagues play.

it’s a passing league and has been that way for several years…fantasy should adapt to the reality. It’s sad when you have to make roster concessions for middling rbs when you can add a boss flex instead, which is more indicative of NFL success anyways.

the only scoring we’re lacking is 1pt for 1st down conversions, but ESPN doesn’t offer it. If it did, perhaps the 2nd RB wouldn’t be as obsolete as it is today.

If you’re being honest with yourself there’s no reason to keep 2 (mandatory) rbs outside of “muh tradition”
Talks about being a progressive league, but is still using espn fantasy platform…ok boomer.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Talks about being a progressive league, but is still using espn fantasy platform…ok boomer.
Rags on espn yet is still using same old tired format on some other platform.

That was easy:lol

[spurraider21]

Rags on espn yet is still using same old tired format on some other platform.

That was easy:lol
sleeper is the new hip one

i love Sleeper's draft room the most, by far... and the league chat with the ability to take quick polls is really handy

i dont love their roster management though, it feels off. it was definitely made to be a mobile app, and the desktop version is more clunky to use. still think yahoo is the cleanest in that respect

this year yahoo also added a live video chat thing during the draft which was really cool in my home league

[DeadlyDynasty]

sleeper is the new hip one

i love Sleeper's draft room the most, by far... and the league chat with the ability to take quick polls is really handy

i dont love their roster management though, it feels off. it was definitely made to be a mobile app, and the desktop version is more clunky to use. still think yahoo is the cleanest in that respect

this year yahoo also added a live video chat thing during the draft which was really cool in my home league
I never liked yahoo tbh…the other one seems interesting but I haven’t had the time or interest to do multiple leagues in several years. Maybe the commish will change the site eventually but it’s the scoring format I love

[BD24]

Rags on espn yet is still using same old tired format on some other platform.

That was easy:lol
Your claim of running back not being deep enough for two rb being proven wrong by stats was hard for you to accept. So you lashed out. That’s fine. I’m sorry this is happening to you tbh

[DeadlyDynasty]

Your claim of running back not being deep enough for two rb being proven wrong by stats was hard for you to accept. So you lashed out. That’s fine. I’m sorry this is happening to you tbh
Are you going through changes? You’re the one suffering from uterine cramps because my league has only 1RB, unless that was somebody else posting under your name:lol

Having 2 rb spots in FF is now akin to NFL teams wasting a roster spot on a FB. If we wanted to fill an extra garbage slot then might as well have 2 kickers with that rationale.

[DeadlyDynasty]

RBs:
Ezekiel Elliott - 5.9 pts
Tony Pollard - 11.3 (mostly from receiving)
Leonard Fournette - 10.9 (mostly from receiving)
Ronald Jones II - 1.4

Flex options instead of another mandatory RB:
Brown - 25.7
Godwin - 25.5
Gronk - 29
Evans - 6.4 (horrible game, but still better than a supposed top 5-10 RB:lol)
Cooper - 39.9
Lamb - 25.6
Gallup - 7.6
Schultz - 10.5

Kickers:
Zuerlein - 9
Succop - 7

IDPs:
David - 12
White - 10
Brown - 11
Kearse - 11

:lmao

[spurraider21]

a one game sample size from two very pass happy teams, one of whom doesnt have a true starting RB?

[DeadlyDynasty]

a one game sample size from two very pass happy teams, one of whom doesnt have a true starting RB?
It’s a pass happy league, that’s the whole point. I’m pretty sure I’ll have an endless sample size in just about every game that doesn’t involve Derrick Henry or Dalvin Cook

[spurraider21]

It’s a pass happy league, that’s the whole point. I’m pretty sure I’ll have an endless sample size in just about every game that doesn’t involve Derrick Henry or Dalvin Cook
saying its a pass happy league doesnt contradict that Tampa and Dallas are among the more pass happy teams in the league. tampa is also an elite run defense. its a good game to cherry pick, for sure.

and im not sure exactly what the argument is though. i'm not contesting that fantasy WRs will outscore RBs down the board. my point is there is plenty of room for 2 RBs (though i think there should be 3WR spots in addition to any flex). hell, for teams who dont have a top 3-4 TE, that whole position is a wasteland too. you'd have to go down all the way to RB37 or so (at that point, low end RB3 or high end RB4) to find someone scoring as poorly as the #12 TE, technically a TE1.

imo its weird to complain about the volatility or unreliability of a second starting RB spot when your league has kickers :lol

sounds like all you really want is a league with 1 QB and 6 Flex or somethin

[DeadlyDynasty]

Both kickers outperformed Zeke.:lmao You shouldn’t be able to cherry pick ANY game where that happens.

As for your TE argument…yeah, that’s why we only carry one of those too. Why backfill a roster with multiple (significantly) lower scoring players when you can have so much more scoring potential? The volatility of the individual WR from week to week is such an enormous range that it lends itself to some crazy finishes. Say you’re 30-40 points behind with one player left on MNF. If you have a RB instead of an extra Flex you simply ain’t winning or even coming close, whereas if you have a WR then you have a fighting chance.

My argument, or what our league voted on essentially, is why duplicate a shit position when there’s more points to be scored? We recognize that RB, TE, K, defensive players are a part of the team but we also know they have a negligible impact on team success in both reality and fantasy. “There’s plenty of room for 2 rbs” is just an excuse not to adapt. I get it, everybody shares the poverty of having 2 rbs, but that’s not a good argument. With that rationale I can take 2 starting MLBs and be guaranteed double digit points every week, more than I can say for 2 RBs. But again, the low-scoring nature of the position does not warrant 2 roster spots.

Look where the league is going and how it’s evolved. Your four conference title teams were KC, Buffalo, TB and GB, and there’s a decent chance it could be like that for the foreseeable future.

Even the teams with great rushers have even better WR options (Minnesota, Tennessee, Cleveland). Baltimore has no RBs left except No. 8 and even though they are a historically great rushing team you see what happens to them in the playoffs every year. The Ravens themselves know it’s not a winning model, which is why they drafted Bateman, signed Watkins and locked up Andrews for 4 more years.

The only team I can think of that’s better served with ride or dying with their RBs is Indy. Maybe the Saints too, but Winston was a 5000yd passer not too long ago so his receivers will get crazy fantasy points by year’s end