Any Tim Duncan fan actually cheers for Kawhi the true heir?

[hitmantb]

I personally don't really care for what happened in 2018. Ugly divorce usually has problems on both sides. PATFO has been making bad decisions for a while, hesitated to max Kawhi twice while handing out the equivalent of a max contract to Gasol and Mills.

I will always cheer for Kawhi. He has the highest win rate of all time and like Duncan, he does so many things outside of stats to help a team win. He is a superstar who does a lot of dirty work, doesn't dominate the ball, and allows role players like Mann to grow. He is also insanely coachable compared to LeBron's and Luka's.

Duncan was my favorite player of all time and I don't believe I will see another player who can win 5 rings in a small market. And for that reason alone I really believe he is underrated against Kareem, LeBron, Magic and Bird of the world, even if his individual stats are not as fancy as them, even if he is not as good of a 1v1 player as say, Hakeem or Shaq. His game sense, knowing exactly where to be on the court, knowing exactly what the team needs, is what gave him more team success than everyone else not named Michael Jordan with the weakest supporting cast of anyone who ever won 3 or more rings.

And Kawhi is the same way. Rookie Kawhi helped Spurs go from first round exit to conference finals. For all the talks about the beautiful game, Kawhi cancelled out peak LeBron for three straight games after we lost home court advantage in 2014 finals, and saved Spurs from a 1998 Utah Jazz ending. I will always remember him fondly and he is the closest thing to Duncan. He is not as dominant as LeBron, KD or even Harden in 1v1 offense, but the winning culture he brought to Raptors and Clippers, it is just like Tim Duncan.

[Dex]

Nah, Kawhi is and will always be a bitch in my book.

Tim Duncan would never quit on his team.

[Leetonidas]

Fuck Nephew. Any self respecting Spurs fan wouldn't cheer for that gimp piece of shit. Putting him in the same breath as Duncan in any way, shape, or form is disrespectful to a true G like Timmy

[4lifecowboy]

Yeah the way Kawhi left, will never sit well with me, fuck him. He destroyed is trade value, and essentially set the franchise back years.

[Spurtacular]

Kawhi quit on the organization with two years remaining on his (lucrative) contract.
Let us proceed.

[sananspursfan21]

Uh nope. Yes both sides played a role in the mess but the ball was in Kawhi’s court at the end, no pun intended. Plus that whole hiding out thing was just the sissiest move.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

No.





Bitch.

[Dejounte]

This should go in the NBA forum. Move on already.

[dbreiden83080]

Uh no.. He'll go down in history as a selfish injury prone (When he's NOT Faking) lousy Team-Mate..

A mute that constantly load manages.. He must be beloved in the locker room..

[daslicer]

Jokic is actually right now the true heir to Tim Duncan. He's like Duncan when it comes to basketball IQ on the court. He has the same mentality as Duncan which is he will do whatever it takes to win whether its only scoring 5 points or 40 points. He also has a great post up game like Duncan. What he lacks is Duncan's great lateral mobility which limits him on defense.

Jokic has Duncan's character from what I have seen. He's a team guy and he's not about drama and wants to have a unified team in the locker room.

[diego]

Kawhi, dirty work? On the court? He's an efficient chucker nowadays, who breaks down as games/season progress. what did he do to improve Mann, he wasn't even in the building! He is nothing like Tim Duncan.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Snake.

[lefty20]

No! Fuck no!

[Dex]

No! Fuck no!

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1hYzw11SW7g/VeqrbDtcSsI/AAAAAAAATvM/WCM4O7pi5u4/s1600/no-no-man-shit-no-man.gif

I believe you'd get your ass kicked, sayin' somethin' like that, man

[slick'81]

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1hYzw11SW7g/VeqrbDtcSsI/AAAAAAAATvM/WCM4O7pi5u4/s1600/no-no-man-shit-no-man.gif

I believe you'd get your ass kicked, sayin' somethin' like that, man

I'll tell you what I'd do, man..... two chicks at the same time, man ... I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I were a millionaire I could hook that up, too; 'cause chicks dig dudes with money.

[DMC]

Kawhi is a great basketball player but he has the misfortune of being the only superstar to demand a trade from the Spurs. If Jonathan Simmons did that, no one here would care. I don't think Kawhi cares much about his marketability, and he's not a nice guy in the same sense that Tim Duncan or Manu are nice guys. He doesn't try to pretend to be a nice guy though. There's just more questions you'd have to ask him to know how funny he is.
To make matters worse, he won another ring the 1st year he was traded to Canada. The Spurs have Demar DeRozan. So it's like Kawhi took the prom queen home and knocked her up, and you had to pay the child support.

[lefty20]

Kawhi is a great basketball player but he has the misfortune of being the only superstar to demand a trade from the Spurs. If Jonathan Simmons did that, no one here would care. I don't think Kawhi cares much about his marketability, and he's not a nice guy in the same sense that Tim Duncan or Manu are nice guys. He doesn't try to pretend to be a nice guy though. There's just more questions you'd have to ask him to know how funny he is.
To make matters worse, he won another ring the 1st year he was traded to Canada. The Spurs have Demar DeRozan. So it's like Kawhi took the prom queen home and knocked her up, and you had to pay the child support.

The problem is how he went about it demanding the trade. What he should've done is just told PATFO that he's done here and he'd prefer to be moved to LA. Instead he went about it in the most unprofessional & scummy way possible.

Doing it the right way would've earned him some resentment from us, but nothing close to the hate and vitriol he's(rightfully, imo) getting now.

[tmtcsc]

Hell no. I root for that dude to lose after robbing Spurs fans & Manu of a another title opportunity. He screwed the franchise, city and fans big time. That being said, he's an amazing player when he's on the court.

[timtonymanu]

Imagine if Duncan had the supporting cast that Nephew was gifted in Toronto and now the Clippers. He would have won more rings easily.

[TDMVPDPOY]

remember spurs FO chose to kowtow to that clown lma about his touches for non impact stats that dont affect the score board...

[DMC]

Imagine if Duncan had the supporting cast that Nephew was gifted in Toronto and now the Clippers. He would have won more rings easily.

Maybe

[hitmantb]

Imagine if Duncan had the supporting cast that Nephew was gifted in Toronto and now the Clippers. He would have won more rings easily.

I would say 99 David Robinson was a better player than any Clipper or Raptor player, and yes 2014 Kawhi, the version that cancelled out peak LeBron for three straight games belong in that category as well.

Kawhi has good help but I wouldn't say it is better than prime Parker and Ginobili. It is no where near as LeBron's supporting cast and he could have easily joined the Lakers to collect free rings.

Unless of course, Paul George morphs from pandemic P to peak Scottie Pippen.

[baseline bum]

Jokic is actually right now the true heir to Tim Duncan. He's like Duncan when it comes to basketball IQ on the court. He has the same mentality as Duncan which is he will do whatever it takes to win whether its only scoring 5 points or 40 points. He also has a great post up game like Duncan. What he lacks is Duncan's great lateral mobility which limits him on defense.

Jokic has Duncan's character from what I have seen. He's a team guy and he's not about drama and wants to have a unified team in the locker room.

Jokic is nothing like Duncan. Duncan lives and breathes basketball, Jokic doesn't really give a shit much and is more interested in horses than basketball. Jokic also had a lot of weight problems in his career. never saw that kind of laziness out of Tim. They couldn't be further apart.

[daslicer]

Jokic is nothing like Duncan. Duncan lives and breathes basketball, Jokic doesn't really give a shit much and is more interested in horses than basketball. Jokic also had a lot of weight problems in his career. never saw that kind of laziness out of Tim. They couldn't be further apart.

How do you know Jokic doesn't care about basketball? You can't care about basketball and win the MVP. You can say Jokic has had weight problems but the last 2 years he has been in shape. Yes Jokic cares about Horses but that's his hobby much like video games was Duncan's hobby.

[DeRozan m8]

Fuck Nephew. Any self respecting Spurs fan wouldn't cheer for that gimp piece of shit. Putting him in the same breath as Duncan in any way, shape, or form is disrespectful to a true G like Timmy

This.

Hope his acl never heals

[Rummpd]

I predict a bad long term outcome this superstar with such an abhorrent personality and lack of character- karma or not

[duncan2k5]

Imagine if Duncan had the supporting cast that Nephew was gifted in Toronto and now the Clippers. He would have won more rings easily.

Gifted? That's hindsight...go to the trade thread when it happened...ppl were clowning him saying pop sent him to a whole other country to waste a year

[duncan2k5]

It's funny how we pretend as if the front office could do no wrong when they have made the wrong moves in every way since Duncan left...I fully believe Kawhi was disrespected by the FO, and that's what made him want to leave...spurs fans have this idea that you HAVE to take disrespect from ppl in the front office

And I also believe kawhi wanted to resign, until he was lowballed and that was the final straw...even the lebron hungry media at the time were giving up on the hopes he would be traded to LA when all the reports were saying kawhi was working it out with the FO...

I've said this from the beginning...the FO were so loyal to Manu and Tony that they were frustrated with Kawhi after Pop sat him again after seeing how gimpy he was during the 9 game stretch (when even we were saying he didn't look right)...they wanted to send Manu and Tony out in a blaze of glory with one last finals run...and they forgot rule number 1...don't disrespect ur star...for all this talk about Timmy's loyalty, he was never disrespected...he isnt a soft punk, trust that...if the FO called him a pussy that year early on when he missed the playoffs, I can GUARANTEE he would have demanded a trade if that person wasn't fired

[dbreiden83080]

It's funny how we pretend as if the front office could do no wrong when they have made the wrong moves in every way since Duncan left...I fully believe Kawhi was disrespected by the FO, and that's what made him want to leave...spurs fans have this idea that you HAVE to take disrespect from ppl in the front office

If you tell him "No" to anything this A-Hole feels like you "Disrespected" him. Also he gets offended if you tell him the following..

"Don't Fake Injuries"
"Stop Load Managing so much"
"Open your mouth and speak to the team"
"Oh yeah and when you feel like talking, Tell Your Sleaze ball Uncle to piss off"

Etc..

Good Riddance..



And I also believe kawhi wanted to resign

Nope.. Uncle is sucking him dry, and needed to get them to LA to be living his best life.. Watch his Uncle go to Prison one day for things like Fraud and Tax Evasion.


until he was lowballed and that was the final straw...even the lebron hungry media at the time were giving up on the hopes he would be traded to LA when all the reports were saying kawhi was working it out with the FO...

He faked an injury got traded to the Raptors, and then after taking them for a ride asking for tons of illegal shit, went to LA.. Which was Uncle's plan all along..

[daslicer]

If you tell him "No" to anything this A-Hole feels like you "Disrespected" him. Also he gets offended if you tell him the following..

"Don't Fake Injuries"
"Stop Load Managing so much"
"Open your mouth and speak to the team"
"Oh yeah and when you feel like talking, Tell Your Sleaze ball Uncle to piss off"

Etc..

Good Riddance..



Nope.. Uncle is sucking him dry, and needed to get them to LA to be living his best life.. Watch his Uncle go to Prison one day for things like Fraud and Tax Evasion.



He faked an injury got traded to the Raptors, and then after taking them for a ride asking for tons of illegal shit, went to LA.. Which was Uncle's plan all along..

My dad once gave this life advice which was that if someone wants to fight with you over something stupid such as accidentally stepping on their shoes that just means they hated you before and wanted a stupid excuse to come at you. I apply this to Kawhi getting upset over stupid stuff such as Manu saying "Well he didn't tell us when he's coming back."

[GreekSpursfan]

Fuck Nephew. Any self respecting Spurs fan wouldn't cheer for that gimp piece of shit. Putting him in the same breath as Duncan in any way, shape, or form is disrespectful to a true G like Timmy

[KimmyGib]

Kawhi is an excellent individual player, but comparing him to Duncan in regards to making team mates around him better is just crazy talk. In fact, I would say Kawhi is much the opposite and James Harden would be a better comparison. Heck, the Clippers are playing more cohesive basketball right now without him. Individually dominant? yes. Duncan level teammate? Not even in the same universe. Guy doesn't care about elevating anyone but himself.

That said, I don't blame him for wanting to get away from San Antonio and Emperor Popovich. I do blame him for the shitty way he went about it.

[TD 21]

I would say 99 David Robinson was a better player than any Clipper or Raptor player, and yes 2014 Kawhi, the version that cancelled out peak LeBron for three straight games belong in that category as well.

Kawhi has good help but I wouldn't say it is better than prime Parker and Ginobili. It is no where near as LeBron's supporting cast and he could have easily joined the Lakers to collect free rings.

Unless of course, Paul George morphs from pandemic P to peak Scottie Pippen.

:lmao

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Nah fuck him forever

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

He’s hiding out again, leaving his team guessing. Clippers are calling it a knee sprain yet Kawhi hasn’t been on the sideline yet to cheer on his teammates. The dominoes fell right with Toronto but every other year as the team “leader” he’s either fallen short or gotten hurt.

Head case. Not a leader. Glad he’s gone.

[timtonymanu]

He’s hiding out again, leaving his team guessing. Clippers are calling it a knee sprain yet Kawhi hasn’t been on the sideline yet to cheer on his teammates. The dominoes fell right with Toronto but every other year as the team “leader” he’s either fallen short or gotten hurt.

Head case. Not a leader. Glad he’s gone.

Yet you have posters like duncan2k5 still claiming the Spurs were at fault for him leaving. :lol It was always a situation that couldn't be fixed. He and Uncle Dennis were always gaslighting and narcissists.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Yet you have posters like duncan2k5 still claiming the Spurs were at fault for him leaving. :lol It was always a situation that couldn't be fixed. He and Uncle Dennis were always gaslighting and narcissists.

It was hilarious how they tried to spin things at the beginning of the game two broadcast. Chris Paul has been talking with his teammates, facetiming everyone, itching to get back on the court. They "said" Kawhi is doing the same thing, basically facetiming his coach and checking in on strategy. Kawhi isn't being prevented from being on the sideline (unlike CP), but of course he's not going to be there.

I get the feeling watching the Clippers that Ty Lue knows he has to protect the superstar, and all the players walk gingerly around Leonard, but you don't get the impression he's a cherished part of the team. It almost seems like on the court the players try to prove they can win without him, because there's certainly greater effort, it appears, when he's out.

The Spurs vets had nothing to prove when they called out Leonard, but in today's NBA you just can't do that with the prima donnas that rule the league.

Fvck Kawhi.