View Full Version : Defund the public indoctrination system
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 07:06 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1407397263949901825?s=20
Thread
06-22-2021, 07:09 PM
Oh, yeah, they're going to wipe President Trump from the history books and scrolls.
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:15 PM
Nathan's still mad about his F's in middle school.
spurraider21
06-22-2021, 07:16 PM
fascists would want to defund education to keep the masses dumb and gullible tbh
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:17 PM
Source: whitesforracialequality.org
:lmao :lmao
Leetonidas
06-22-2021, 07:19 PM
They don't teach critical race theory in public primary school you dumb fucking incel. You have no clue what it even is :lol
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:31 PM
Who wants to bet there's no evidence whatsoever that teachers are FORCED to teach this MANDATORY infographic in any Iowa school?
spurraider21
06-22-2021, 07:36 PM
Who wants to bet there's no evidence whatsoever that teachers are FORCED to teach this MANDATORY infographic in any Iowa school?
they dont teach it. its used as part of the teacher's training
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 07:37 PM
Next time I'll be sure to point out the important bits of the tweet for the low iq spurstalk users.
spurraider21
06-22-2021, 07:40 PM
i'll just say that everything in the graphic is pretty accurate, except the inclusion of cultural appropriation imo
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:42 PM
they dont teach it. its used as part of the teacher's training
The insinuation by OPs tweet is that teachers are forced through this training to classify MAGA as racist in their classrooms.
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Considering the sources and the forced hyperbole, I'm willing to bet that's bullshit.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 07:43 PM
"Bootstrap theory" aka self efficacy is racist.:lmao
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:44 PM
Next time I'll be sure to point out the important bits of the tweet for the low iq spurstalk users.
Or you could just exhibit better critical thinking. But you won't. You're on a daily mission to find "news" that validates your white victim paranoia.
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:46 PM
"Bootstrap theory" aka self efficacy is racist.:lmao
Yeah it is.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 07:49 PM
Lmao "denial of white privilege" is racist according these morons. It's almost like the leftist cult is try to declare everyone a racist. School choice is a must. Get your kids away from these leftist cultists.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 07:50 PM
"Everyone that disagrees with my cult ideology is a racist.":madrun
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:51 PM
Lmao "denial of white privilege" is racist according these morons. It's almost like the leftist cult is try to declare everyone a racist. School choice is a must. Get your kids away from these leftist cultists.
You're just hoping fewer people will graduate high school so you'll have an easier time getting a job.
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:52 PM
"Everyone that disagrees with my cult ideology is a racist.":madrun
Not everyone who disagrees with me is a racist. But you are.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 07:52 PM
Yeah it is.
Self efficacy is needed for success. It doesn't surprise me to see the left classify it as racist tbh
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:54 PM
Self efficacy is needed for success. It doesn't surprise me to see the left classify it as racist tbh
No, it's not needed. You could just have rich parents.
And "self efficacy" certainly is no guarantee of success.
You'd benefit from some CRT training. (If you could do it without getting triggered into a temper tantrum every three minutes.)
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 07:56 PM
"We're one human family" is one of the most racist things I've ever heard. I think we can all agree on that.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 07:59 PM
No, it's not needed. You could just have rich parents.
And "self efficacy" certainly is no guarantee of success.
You'd benefit from some CRT training. (If you could do it without getting triggered into a temper tantrum every three minutes.)
Who the fuck said self efficacy was a guarantee for success? Anyone demonizing self efficacy to youth is a moron and should not be teaching anyone.
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 07:59 PM
"We're one human family" is one of the most racist things I've ever heard. I think we can all agree on that.
Actually according to the scale it's on the lower spectrum of racist things. Did your lack of education make it hard for you to read charts too?
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 08:04 PM
Who the fuck said self efficacy was a guarantee for success? Anyone demonizing self efficacy to youth is a moron and should not be teaching anyone.
Who the fuck is demonizing self efficacy, you stupid idiot? Bootstrap theory basically says all you have to do to pull yourself out of poverty is show initiative. Its literal meaning is that self efficacy guarantees success, because it blames the poor (and by association, minorities) for their own lack of success.
Again, maybe you should consider some training yourself instead of talking out of your ass or relying on "whites for racial equality" to feed you your perspective, you stupid racist twat.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 08:09 PM
Who the fuck is demonizing self efficacy, you stupid idiot? Bootstrap theory basically says all you have to do to pull yourself out of poverty is show initiative. It's literally means self efficacy guarantees success, because it blames the poor (and by association, minorities) for their own lack of success.
Again, maybe you should consider some training yourself instead of talking out of your ass or relying on "whites for racial equality" to feed you your perspective, you stupid racist twat.
Most people are to blame for their lack of success. And one's choices can almost guarantee pulling yourself out of poverty. That said there are no guarantees. But that reality is far better than pretending that success is out of your control. That message is both false and terrible for anyone being taught that.
spurraider21
06-22-2021, 08:09 PM
The insinuation by OPs tweet is that teachers are forced through this training to classify MAGA as racist in their classrooms.
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Considering the sources and the forced hyperbole, I'm willing to bet that's bullshit.
also assumes that
a) teachers are forced to categorize students as racist
and
b) iowan children are trump voters meaning that trump benefitted from massive voter fraud in iowa
Adam Lambert
06-22-2021, 08:11 PM
Most people are to blame for their lack of success. And one's choices can almost guarantee pulling yourself out of poverty. That said there are no guarantees. But that reality is far better than pretending that success is out of your control. That message is both false and terrible for anyone being taught that.
No one's being taught that. What's your excuse for being such a loser?
spurraider21
06-22-2021, 08:12 PM
imagine playing a game of monopoly and some players are dealt the normal $1,500 to start the game and other players are dealt only $500... but once the game starts all rules become fair and equal from that point forward, you tell those people to suck it up and pull themselves up by the bootstraps, because its their lack of self efficacy entirely that has caused them to be losing the game
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 08:13 PM
Imagine declaring "police murdering poc" as racist. It's a vague event with no facts. Police murder white people as well which is therefore also racism apparently. Black cops murder black people so they must be racist. This image is pure ideological indoctrination.
spurraider21
06-22-2021, 08:15 PM
Imagine declaring "police murdering poc" as racist. It's a vague event with no facts. Police murder white people as well which is therefore also racism apparently. Black cops murder black people so they must be racist. This image is pure ideological indoctrination.
its almost like POC have had their own unique history with law enforcement in this country
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 08:16 PM
imagine playing a game of monopoly and some players are dealt the normal $1,500 to start the game and other players are dealt only $500... but once the game starts all rules become fair and equal from that point forward, you tell those people to suck it up and pull themselves up by the bootstraps, because its their lack of self efficacy entirely that has caused them to be losing the game
Imagine comparing the ability to succeed in the real world which has a wide range of opportunities to a boardgame with very few opportunities.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 08:18 PM
its almost like POC have had their own unique history with law enforcement in this country
That doesn't change anything. You can't declare events as racist based on nothing.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 08:26 PM
"Not believing the experiences of poc"
Imagine being so pathetic that you just have to agree with nonsense or else you are a racist.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 08:31 PM
"Not believing the experiences of poc" is racist.
"Claiming reverse racism" is also racism.
Yeah this is a cult indoctrination.
Will Hunting
06-22-2021, 08:35 PM
Imagine comparing the ability to succeed in the real world which has a wide range of opportunities to a boardgame with very few opportunities.
That doesn't change anything. You can't declare events as racist based on nothing.
"Not believing the experiences of poc"
Imagine being so pathetic that you just have to agree with nonsense or else you are a racist.
"Not believing the experiences of poc" is racist.
"Claiming reverse racism" is also racism.
Yeah this is a cult indoctrination.
Are you done crying yet?
Blake
06-22-2021, 09:09 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1407397263949901825?s=20
Rofl "leaked documents"
Spurtacular
06-22-2021, 09:18 PM
Defund the public indoctrination system
Beat you to it by 19 hours, tbh.
We asked Republicans to explain Critical Race Theory—they couldn’t
It's the latest reason to defund public schools :tu
DarrinS
06-22-2021, 09:29 PM
Novel idea:
Teach kids to read, write, and do math
They can learn what a horrible country they live in, whilst attending college.
DarrinS
06-22-2021, 09:31 PM
While all evidence suggests the best places to live in the world are western democracies.
DarrinS
06-22-2021, 09:33 PM
The citizens of the best places to live are the the most vocal about how horrible their countries are. Ironic.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 09:38 PM
Beat you to it by 19 hours, tbh.
Sorry I don't want to fund ideological indoctrination.
DarrinS
06-22-2021, 09:39 PM
You don't know what CRT is.
It's a "catch all".
Lol
Spurtacular
06-22-2021, 09:39 PM
Sorry I don't want to fund ideological indoctrination.
You have been. One look at the numbers of Democrats vs. Republicans coming out of these shitholes should tell you that.
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 09:43 PM
Are you done crying yet?
For some reason exposing the leftist cult teachings seems to bother you.
Blake
06-22-2021, 09:44 PM
Novel idea:
Teach kids to read, write, and do math
They can learn what a horrible country they live in, whilst attending college.
I mean, why teach the masses about history and government? We still turn out Trump voting schmucks regardless so what's the point
Spurtacular
06-22-2021, 09:45 PM
I mean, why teach the masses about history and government? We still turn out Trump voting schmucks regardless so what's the point
You don't have this card, cuckold.
DarrinS
06-22-2021, 09:51 PM
I mean, why teach the masses about history and government? We still turn out Trump voting schmucks regardless so what's the point
We used to learn those things from schoolhouse rock just fine.
DarrinS
06-22-2021, 09:55 PM
It is strange and sad to see "normal" liberals championing CRT.
spurraider21
06-22-2021, 10:08 PM
Novel idea:
Teach kids to read, write, and do math
They can learn what a horrible country they live in, whilst attending college.
none of the stuff in the OP is in grade school curriculum
:lol this myth that grade schools have critical race theory courses... but by all means, keep contributing to the manufactured outrage
https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/styles/scale_w1024/s3/static/D8Image/2021/06/14/CRT%20Fox%20%283%29.png?itok=hp552BGR
Spurtacular
06-22-2021, 10:16 PM
none of the stuff in the OP is in grade school curriculum
:lol this myth that grade schools have critical race theory courses... but by all means, keep contributing to the manufactured outrage
https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/styles/scale_w1024/s3/static/D8Image/2021/06/14/CRT%20Fox%20%283%29.png?itok=hp552BGR
Lite knows what every grade school everywhere is doing. :lolK
spurraider21
06-22-2021, 10:19 PM
Imagine comparing the ability to succeed in the real world which has a wide range of opportunities to a boardgame with very few opportunities.
yeah. thats how comparisons work. you look at different things and find similarities.
the point is that "bootstrapping it" or as you put it, "self efficacy" does not tell the whole story, and pretending it does is ignoring a lot of historical context
Blake
06-22-2021, 11:02 PM
We used to learn those things from schoolhouse rock just fine.
Well that explains why you voted for a game show host for president
Nathan89
06-22-2021, 11:39 PM
yeah. thats how comparisons work. you look at different things and find similarities.
the point is that "bootstrapping it" or as you put it, "self efficacy" does not tell the whole story, and pretending it does is ignoring a lot of historical context
Yeah, and I was pointing out why it's a bad comparison.
spurraider21
06-22-2021, 11:45 PM
Yeah, and I was pointing out why it's a bad comparison.
just means you didnt understand it well.
Will Hunting
06-23-2021, 07:22 AM
For some reason exposing the leftist cult teachings seems to bother you.
:lmao “exposing”, you’re complaining on a San Antonio Spurs message board about how miserable your life is because of leftists.
pgardn
06-23-2021, 07:28 AM
[TWEET] defund proper history courses
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 08:11 AM
Keep spinning:downspin:
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 08:13 AM
When you can't defend ideological indoctrination then just make shit up. It's not a bad strategy.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 08:15 AM
just means you didnt understand it well.
How convenient for your bad comparison.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 10:38 AM
It is strange and sad to see "normal" liberals championing CRT.Darrin, what do you say is the definition of Critical Race Theory?
Please answer for once.
Adam Lambert
06-23-2021, 10:39 AM
It is strange and sad to see "normal" liberals championing CRT.
It's strange to you because you don't know what it is or where it's taught. You're clinging to the narrative of your cult leaders because you need something to be angry about. If you exercised a minimal level of critical thinking or did a few minutes of reading on the subject, you'd find it's not worth your anger, but the truth is you don't want that because the anger makes you feel like you have purpose. So you prefer to take the word of "whitepeopleforequality.org" about what's being taught to children than to make any effort to understand reality.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 10:43 AM
:lol Darrin's just another rube being manipulated by big media.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 11:04 AM
:lmao how gullible are you people, Darrin?
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Trainwreck2100
06-23-2021, 12:38 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1407397263949901825?s=20
defunding education systems is how we got gullible idiots like op tbqh
spurraider21
06-23-2021, 12:38 PM
:lmao how gullible are you people, Darrin?
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about this much
https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/styles/scale_w1024/s3/static/D8Image/2021/06/14/CRT%20Fox%20%283%29.png?itok=hp552BGR
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 01:05 PM
defunding education systems is how we got gullible idiots like op tbqh
When you can't defend leftist ideological insanity then just try to insult people highlighting reality. It's honestly not a terrible strategy.
Adam Lambert
06-23-2021, 01:15 PM
When you can't defend leftist ideological insanity then just try to insult people highlighting reality. It's honestly not a terrible strategy.
There's no point defending the fictional insanity that racists like you invent. It's a strawman. You want us to rationalize something that's not actually happening. When we tell you it's not happening, you claim we're defending it.
You're really not worth the effort, to be honest, you live in your own version of reality and you like it that way.
Trainwreck2100
06-23-2021, 01:32 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1407397263949901825?s=20
When you can't defend leftist ideological insanity then just try to insult people highlighting reality. It's honestly not a terrible strategy.
When you think obvious fiction is reality, then there's not much more to be done
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 01:42 PM
All these people up in arms about Critical Race Theory think their racism is being criticized.
Adam Lambert
06-23-2021, 02:34 PM
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baseline bum
06-23-2021, 02:54 PM
While all evidence suggests the best places to live in the world are western democracies.
Hopefully we can become one.
boutons_deux
06-23-2021, 02:58 PM
All these people up in arms about Critical Race Theory think their racism is being criticized.
it's massive gaslight strategy:
the blatantly racist Repugs, and law enforcement, we all see and hear aren't racists
blatant, systemic racism in America doesn't exist
the well-known history of American slavery/racism is of no consequence or even doesn't exist
spurraider21
06-23-2021, 03:04 PM
re: Adam Lambert's post above:
or in a nutshell, white fragility
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 03:28 PM
The history of slavery has been taught for decades without outrage. Now the lying left is pretending that this is why people are outraged. That's a nice narrative these lunatics have.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 03:29 PM
All these people up in arms about Critical Race Theory think their racism is being criticized.
Compelling narrative.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 03:34 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1407397263949901825?s=20
The radical leftist ideology being pushed in institutions across this country can't be defended. This stuff is illogical cult messaging.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 03:38 PM
Compelling narrative.Post your definition of Critical Race Theory.
spurraider21
06-23-2021, 03:39 PM
:lol pizzagaetz triggered
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Nathan89
06-23-2021, 03:47 PM
The radical leftist ideology being pushed in institutions across this country can't be defended. This stuff is illogical cult messaging.
i'll just say that everything in the graphic is pretty accurate, except the inclusion of cultural appropriation imo
But people will try to hold the line regardless.
Leetonidas
06-23-2021, 03:48 PM
:lol still has no idea what CRT is or how to explain why he's afraid of it
spurraider21
06-23-2021, 03:52 PM
:lol still has no idea what CRT is or how to explain why he's afraid of it
UMM IT MEANS WHILE PEOPLE SHOULD KNEEL DOWN BEFORE BLACK OVERLORDS
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 03:56 PM
Nobody is focusing on the numerous individual examples of baseless leftist nonsense like I am. How strange.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 03:58 PM
Nobody is focusing on the numerous individual examples of baseless leftist nonsense like I am. How strange.
I'm not even convinced this latest grievance is real.
But let's talk about MAGA.
Do you think there are white supremacists who support Trump?
Yes or no.
Leetonidas
06-23-2021, 03:59 PM
Nobody is focusing on the numerous individual examples of baseless leftist nonsense like I am. How strange.
Because we're all waiting for you to validate the fake news source in the OP and actually articulate why you are afraid of CRT and what it means. Which you clearly have no ability to do beyond constantly going REEEEEE :lol
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:00 PM
Nathan clearly has no idea what Critical Race Theory is.
No Trump supporter here does.
Doesn't stop grifters like Benny in the OP from triggering them with the buzzphrase.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:01 PM
I'm not even convinced this latest grievance is real.
But let's talk about MAGA.
Do you think there are white supremacists who support Trump?
Yes or no.
Even if there were that would be irrelevant to MAGA.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:03 PM
Even if there were that would be irrelevant to MAGA.Why not?
Language and symbols gets appropriated all the time.
Pepe wasn't always an alt-right symbol.
It's relevant. You just don't want to face the facts.
RandomGuy
06-23-2021, 04:06 PM
:lol still has no idea what CRT is or how to explain why he's afraid of it
I can explain the why:
He has been told to be afraid of "it" by the propaganda he has poisoned his brain with. Irony.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:07 PM
Nathan clearly has no idea what Critical Race Theory is.
No Trump supporter here does.
Doesn't stop grifters like Benny in the OP from triggering them with the buzzphrase.
If you are interested in crt you can search Christopher Rufo on Twitter. I'm focusing on the details of the image on this thread.
RandomGuy
06-23-2021, 04:08 PM
Nobody is focusing on the numerous individual examples of baseless leftist nonsense like I am. How strange.
Nobody is focusing on the urgent threat posed by coke-sniffing gangs of unicorns either. How strange.
Why do you think no one is focusing on gangs of coke-sniffing unicorns?
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:10 PM
If you are interested in crt you can search Christopher Rufo on Twitter. I'm focusing on the details of the image on this thread.Have racists ever used the MAGA phrase or symbols connected with it like the hats?
Yes or no.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:11 PM
Why not?
Language and symbols gets appropriated all the time.
Pepe wasn't always an alt-right symbol.
It's relevant. You just don't want to face the facts.
Because it's moronic to declare a phrase as white supremacy when millions of non white supremacists use the same phrase. This is left infusing their political ideology into our institutions.
RandomGuy
06-23-2021, 04:11 PM
If you are interested in crt you can search Christopher Rufo on Twitter. I'm focusing on the details of the image on this thread.
I am interested in one of you morons actually being able to provide a good working definition, so that we can have a discussion over the merits.
Otherwise you have more culture war :jack
Feel free to define what it is you have been told to be outraged about, sheep.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:12 PM
Have racists ever used the MAGA phrase or symbols connected with it like the hats?
Yes or no.
I'm sure they have owned dogs and drank water as well.
RandomGuy
06-23-2021, 04:13 PM
Because it's moronic to declare a phrase as white supremacy when millions of non white supremacists use the same phrase. This is left infusing their political ideology into our institutions.
It's moronic to ignore the tiki torch mafia, and Jan 6th insurrection as being one offs.
Why are so many white supremecists attracted to this ideology?
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:14 PM
Because it's moronic to declare a phrase as white supremacy when millions of non white supremacists use the same phrase. This is left infusing their political ideology into our institutions.How many racists would need to use it before you would allow it on the chart?
Leetonidas
06-23-2021, 04:18 PM
"i'm not focusing on CRT, I'm focusing on the fake news I posted in the OP which I have not verified or looked into but believe it to be true because a right wing twitter page i follow posted it"
:lol
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:21 PM
It's moronic to ignore the tiki torch mafia, and Jan 6th insurrection as being one offs.
Why are so many white supremecists attracted to this ideology?
Quantify "so many". Jan 6th wasn't even full of white people. The democrats have an anti- white agenda which can be seen in their policies that exclude white people. This will naturally push a white supremacist to the other side.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:22 PM
"i'm not focusing on CRT, I'm focusing on the fake news I posted in the OP which I have not verified or looked into but believe it to be true because a right wing twitter page i follow posted it"
:lol:lol the tweet explicitly mentions CRT, which is NOT to be focused upon
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:22 PM
Quantify "so many". Jan 6th wasn't even full of white people. The democrats have an anti- white agenda which can be seen in their policies that exclude white people. This will naturally push a white supremacist to the other side.What percentage of people who tried to overthrow the government that day were white?
Give your ballpark figure.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:24 PM
How many racists would need to use it before you would allow it on the chart?
Racists support both parties. I guess we can just declare any political phrase as racist.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:25 PM
Racists support both parties. I guess we can just declare any political phrase as racist.You didn't answer the question.
Don't get all passive aggressive after demanding we discuss only this.
How many racists would need to use it before you would allow it on the chart?
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:26 PM
:lol the tweet explicitly mentions CRT, which is NOT to be focused upon
You can discuss it. I've directed you to a source that regularly speaks on the topic. It's more fruitful to discuss these individual concepts.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:27 PM
You can discuss it. I've directed you to a source that regularly speaks on the topic. It's more fruitful to discuss these individual concepts.:lmao you just tapped out of the discussion you wanted.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:30 PM
You didn't answer the question.
Don't get all passive aggressive after demanding we discuss only this.
How many racists would need to use it before you would allow it on the chart?
I'm not sure how to obtain such data so it would be pointless to set a limit. What amount do you think they set in order to put it on the list? Or do you think the radical leftists were just infusing their political agenda?
spurraider21
06-23-2021, 04:31 PM
:lmao you just tapped out of the discussion you wanted.
not the first time. he constantly avoids talking about things he brings up
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=285880&p=10216891&viewfull=1#post10216891
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:32 PM
:lmao you just tapped out of the discussion you wanted.
Discussing terminology was discussion that you wanted. I'm discussing leftist ideological idiocy being infused into institutions.
RandomGuy
06-23-2021, 04:33 PM
Racists support both parties. I guess we can just declare any political phrase as racist.
:lol "both parties"
Do most white supremacists vote for Democrats or Republicans?
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:34 PM
I'm not sure how to obtain such data so it would be pointless to set a limit. What amount do you think they set in order to put it on the list? Or do you think the radical leftists were just infusing their political agenda?I think enough high profile incidents would have it make the chart. There are documented incidents of predominantly white high school students using the chant at games against predominantly minority schools along with others like "Build the wall" and others.
It's quite racist. I'm glad educators have taken notice.:tu
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:35 PM
Discussing terminology was discussion that you wanted. I'm discussing leftist ideological idiocy being infused into institutions.And you're wrong.:tu
You're also ignorant of what CRT is.:tu
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:35 PM
Democrats: create policies that exclude white people.
White supremacists: hmm who should I support? I'll go withe Republicans.
Democrats: this is evidence that Republicans are racist.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:36 PM
Democrats: create policies that exclude white people.
White supremacists: hmm who should I support? I'll go withe Republicans.
Democrats: this is evidence that Republicans are racist.How do you personally feel excluded, Nathan?
Leetonidas
06-23-2021, 04:39 PM
Yeah, the political party with the old white man president is soooo against white people :lmao
RandomGuy
06-23-2021, 04:41 PM
Discussing terminology was discussion that you wanted. I'm discussing leftist ideological idiocy being infused into institutions.
Well, let's see what you think.
Tell me which topic you would have the government censor:
Wounded knee massacre
Trail of tears
Tulsa massacre
KKK terror campaigns
Jim Crow laws
Construction of highways through communities of color
Segregation
Public lynchings of black people
Torture, murder, and rape of slaves
Slavery
Discrimination in hiring
Redlining in loan practices
Restrictive Housing covenants
Forced sharecropping
Post–Civil War and Reconstruction period: 1865–1877
1866: New Orleans massacre of 1866 (New Orleans, Louisiana)
1866: Memphis riots of 1866 (Memphis, Tennessee), mostly ethnic Irish against African Americans
1868: Pulaski riot (Pulaski, Tennessee), whites against blacks
1868: St. Bernard Parish massacre, St. Bernard Parish, Louisiana, whites against blacks
1868: Opelousas massacre (Opelousas, Louisiana), whites against blacks
1868: Camilla race riot (Camilla, Georgia), whites against blacks
1868: Ward Island riot
Irish and German-American indigent immigrants, temporarily interned at Wards Island by the Commissioners of Emigration, begin rioting following an altercation between two residents, resulting in thirty men seriously wounded and around sixty arrested.[46]
1870: Eutaw massacre, whites against blacks
1870: Mamaroneck riot (Mamaroneck, New York), Italian against Irish
1870: Laurens, South Carolina
1870: Kirk-Holden war: Alamance County, North Carolina
Federal troops, led by Col. Kirk and requested by NC governor Holden, were sent to extinguish racial violence. Holden was eventually impeached because of the offensive.
1870: New York City orange riot
1871: Meridian race riot of 1871, Meridian, Mississippi, whites against blacks
1871: Second New York City orange riot
1871: Los Angeles anti-Chinese riot, mixed Mexican and white mob killed 17–20 Chinese in the largest mass lynching in U.S. history
1871: Scranton coal riot
Violence occurs between striking members of a miners' union in Scranton, Pennsylvania when Welsh miners attack Irish and German-American miners who chose to leave the union and accept the terms offered by local mining companies.[47]
1872: Patenburg Massacre, on the Muthockaway Creek, Hunterdon County, New Jersey. Black laborers working on the farm of a Mrs Carter are attacked while returning to their shanties after work by Irish laborers who had been working on a nearby tunnel. Three black men Denis Powel, Oscar Bruce and another older black man were shot and beaten beyond recognition. Three other black men from the massacre were arrested, while their assailants remained at large. (Source?)
1873: Colfax, Louisiana, white Democrats against black Republicans
1874: Vicksburg, Mississippi
1874: Battle of Liberty Place, New Orleans, Louisiana[48] After contested gubernatorial election, Democrats took over state buildings for three days
1874: Coushatta massacre, Coushatta, Louisiana, white Democrats against black Republicans
1875: Yazoo City, Mississippi
1875: Clinton, Mississippi
1876: Statewide violence in South Carolina
1876: Hamburg massacre, Hamburg, South Carolina
1876: Ellenton riot, Ellenton, South Carolina
Jim Crow period: 1877–1914
Further information: Nadir of American race relations
1885: Rock Springs, Wyoming
1885: Tacoma, Washington
1886: Pittsburgh riot
1886: Seattle, Washington
1887: Denver riot of 1887
In one of the largest civil disturbances in the city's history, fighting between Swedish, Hungarian and Polish immigrants resulted in the shooting death of one man and several others were injured before it was broken up by police.[49]
1887: Hells Canyon Massacre
1887: Thibodaux massacre, Thibodaux, Louisiana—strike of 10,000 sugar-cane workers was opposed by whites, who rioted and killed an estimated 50 African Americans
1891: New Orleans anti-Italian riot
A lynch mob storms a local jail and hangs 11 Italians following the acquittal of several Sicilian immigrants alleged to be involved in the murder of New Orleans police chief David Hennessy.
1891: 1st Omaha race riot
10,000 white people storm the local courthouse to beat and lynch Joe Coe, alleged to have raped a white girl.
1894: Buffalo, New York riot of 1894
Two groups of Irish and Italian-Americans are arrested by police after fighting following a barroom brawl. After the mob is dispersed by police, five Italians are arrested while two others are sent to a local hospital.[50]
1894: Bituminous coal miners' strike
Much of the violence in this national strike was not specifically racial. In Iowa, where employees of Consolidation Coal Company (Iowa) refused to join the strike, armed confrontation between strikers and strike breakers took on racial overtones because the majority of Consolidation's employees were African American. The National Guard was mobilized to avert open warfare.[51][52][53]
1895: 1895 New Orleans dockworkers riot
1898: Wilmington race riot
A group of Democrats sought to remove African-Americans from the political scene, and went about this by launching a campaign of accusing African-American men of sexually assaulting white women. About five hundred white men attacked and burned Alex Manly's office, a newspaper editor who suggested African-American men and white women had consensual relationships. Fourteen African-Americans were killed.[54]
1898: Lake City, South Carolina
1898: Greenwood County, South Carolina
1899: Newburg, New York riot
Angered about hiring of African-American workers, a group of 80-100 Arab laborers attack African Americans near the Freeman & Hammond brick yard, with numerous men injured on both sides.[55]
1900: New Orleans, Louisiana: Robert Charles riots
1900: Manhattan, NY — Tenderloin race riot
1902: New York City
Anti-Semitic riots initiated by German factory workers and city policemen against thousands of Jews attending Jacob Joseph's funeral
1906: Little Rock, Arkansas
Started after a white police officer in Argenta (North Little Rock) killed a black musician, and another black was killed; racial tensions rose with exchange of gunfire, resulting in half a block of buildings burned down; whites rioted and some blacks fled the city.[56]
1906: Atlanta massacre of 1906, Georgia
In September after two newspapers printed stories about African-American men allegedly assaulting white women anti-African-American, violence broke out. Roughly 10,000 white men and boys took the street, resulting in the deaths of 25 to 100 African-Americans, along with hundreds injured and many businesses destroyed.[54]
1906: Wahalak & Scooba, Mississippi[57]
1906: Brownsville, TX — Brownsville affair
1907: Bellingham riots, Washington
1908: Springfield, Illinois
1909: Greek Town riot
A successful Greek immigrant community in South Omaha, Nebraska is burnt to the ground by ethnic whites and its residents are forced to leave town.[58]
1910: Nationwide riots following the heavyweight championship fight between Jack Johnson and Jim Jeffries in Reno, Nevada on July 4
1910 Slocum massacre, between eight and two hundred black residents around Slocum, Texas were killed by hundreds of armed white men. Eleven white men were arrested, none went to trial.[59]
1912: Forsyth County, Georgia - lynching and racial expulsion[60]
War and Inter-War period: 1914–1945
See also: African-American veterans lynched after World War I
Further information: Nadir of American race relations
Political cartoon about the East St. Louis massacres of 1917. The caption reads, "Mr. President, why not make America safe for democracy?"
1915: Leyden riot. Anti-Catholic riots; Catholics riot over ministers debating the decrease of parochial schools.
1917: East St. Louis riots. On July 1 in East St. Louis, Illinois, an African-American man was rumored to have killed a white man. Violence against African-Americans continued for a week, resulting in estimations of 40 to 200 dead African-Americans. In addition, almost 6,000 African-Americans lost their homes during the riots then fled East St. Louis.[54]
1917: Chester, Pennsylvania. The 1917 Chester race riot took place over four days in July. White hostility toward southern blacks moving to Chester for wartime economy jobs erupted into a four day melee sparked by the stabbing of a white man by a black man. Mobs of hundreds of people fought throughout the city and the violence resulted in 7 deaths, 28 gunshot wounds, 360 arrests and hundreds of hospitalizations.[61]
1917: Lexington, Kentucky. Tensions already existed between black and white populations over the lack of affordable housing in the city during the Great Migration. On the day of the riot, September 1, the Colored A.&M. Fair (one of the largest African American fairs in the South) on Georgetown Pike attracted more African Americans from the surrounding area into the city. Also during this time, some National Guard troops were camping on the edge of the city. Three troops passed in front of an African American restaurant and shoved some people on the sidewalk. A fight broke out, reinforcements for the troops and citizens both appeared, and soon a riot had begun. The Kentucky National Guard was summoned, and once the riot had ended, armed soldiers on foot and mount and police patrolled the streets. All other National Guard troops were barred from the city streets until the fair ended.[62]
1917: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
1917: Houston, Texas
Red Summer of 1919. Tension in the summer of 1919 stemmed significantly from white soldiers returning from World War I and finding that their jobs had been taken by African-American veterans.[54]
1919: Elaine Race Riot (Elaine, Arkansas)
1919: Washington race riot of 1919
1919: Jenkins County, Georgia, riot of 1919
1919: Macon, Mississippi, race riot
1919: Chicago Race Riot of 1919
1919: Baltimore riot of 1919
1919: Omaha Race Riot of 1919
1919: Charleston riot of 1919
1919: Longview, Texas
1919: Knoxville Riot of 1919 (Knoxville, Tennessee)
1920: Ocoee Massacre (Ocoee, Florida) To stop "######s" from voting; Ocoee ended up almost all white.
1920: West Frankfort, Illinois
1921: Tulsa race massacre (Tulsa, Oklahoma)
Between May 31st and June 1st, a young white woman accused an African American man of grabbing her arm in an elevator. The man Dick Rowland was arrested and police launched an investigation. A mob of armed white men gathered outside the Tulsa County Courthouse, where gunfire ensued. During the violence, 1,250 homes were destroyed and roughly 6,000 African-Americans were imprisoned after the Oklahoma National Guard was called in. The state of Oklahoma reports that twenty-six African-Americans died along with 10 whites.
1922 Perry massacre (Perry, Florida)
1923: Rosewood Massacre (Rosewood, Florida)
1927: Little Rock, Arkansas
Lynching of John Carter, a suspect in a murder, was followed by rioting by 5,000 whites in the city, who destroyed a black business area[63]
1927 Poughkeepsie, New York
A wave of civil unrest, violence, and vandalism by local White mobs against Blacks, as well Greek, Jewish, Chinese and Puerto Rican targets in the community.[citation needed]
1927: Yakima Valley, WA — Yakima Valley riots (anti-Filipino)[64]
1928: Wenatchee Valley — Wenatchee Valley anti-Filipino riot[64]
1929: Exeter, NH — Exeter anti-Filipino riot[65]
1930: Watsonville, California
1935: Harlem, Manhattan, New York
1943: Detroit, Michigan
In late June a fistfight broke out between an African-American man and a white man at an amusement park on Belle Isle. The violence escalated from there and led to three days of intense fighting, in which 6,000 United States Army troops were brought in. This resulted in twenty-five African-Americans dying, along with nine white deaths and a total of seven hundred injured persons.[54]
1943: Beaumont race riot of 1943
1943: Harlem, Manhattan, New York
1943: Los Angeles, California
1944: Guam
Civil rights movement: 1955–1973
1962
Ole Miss riot of 1962, September 30–October 1; Oxford, Mississippi
1963
Birmingham riot of 1963; Birmingham, Alabama – May
Cambridge riot of 1963; Cambridge, Maryland – June
1964
Chester school protests; Chester, Pennsylvania - April
Rochester 1964 race riot; Rochester, New York – July
New York City 1964 riot; New York City – July
Philadelphia 1964 race riot; Philadelphia – August
Jersey City 1964 race riot, August 2–4, Jersey City, New Jersey
Paterson 1964 race riot, August 11–13, Paterson, New Jersey
Elizabeth 1964 race riot, August 11–13, Elizabeth, New Jersey
Chicago 1964 race riot, Dixmoor race riot, August 16–17, Chicago
1965
The buildings burning during Watts riot
The police make arrests during protest actions.
Watts riots; Los Angeles, California – August
This predominately African-American neighborhood exploded with violence from August 11th to August 17th after the arrest of 21-year old Marquette Frye, a black motorist who was arrested by a white highway patrolman. During his arrest a crowd had gathered and a fight broke out between the crowd and the police, escalating to the point in which rocks and concrete were thrown at police. 30,000 people were recorded participating in the riots and fights with police, which left thirty four people dead, 1,000 injured and 4,000 arrested.
1966
Hough riots; Cleveland, Ohio – July
Division Street riots; Chicago, Illinois – June
Marquette Park riot; Chicago, Illinois – August
Hunters Point riot; San Francisco – September
1967
1967 Newark riots; Newark, New Jersey – July
1967 Plainfield riots; Plainfield, New Jersey – July
12th Street riot; Detroit, Michigan – July
1967 New York City riot; Harlem, New York City – July
Cambridge riot of 1967; Cambridge, Maryland – July
1967 Rochester riot; Rochester, New York – July
1967 Pontiac riot; Pontiac, Michigan – July
1967 Toledo Riot; Toledo, Ohio – July
1967 Flint riot; Flint, Michigan – July
1967 Grand Rapids riot; Grand Rapids, Michigan – July
1967 Houston riot; Houston, Texas – July
1967 Englewood riot; Englewood, New Jersey – July
1967 Tucson riot; Tucson, Arizona – July
1967 Milwaukee riot; Milwaukee, Wisconsin – July
Minneapolis North Side riots; Minneapolis-Saint Paul, Minnesota – August
1967 Albina Riot Portland, Oregon – August 30[66]
1968
Orangeburg massacre; Orangeburg, South Carolina – February
King assassination riots: 125 cities in April and May, in response to the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., including:
Baltimore riot of 1968; Baltimore Maryland
1968 Washington, D.C. riots; Washington, D.C.
1968 New York City riot; New York City
West Side Riots; Chicago
1968 Detroit riot; Detroit, Michigan
Louisville riots of 1968; Louisville, Kentucky
Hill District MLK riots; Pittsburgh, PA
1968 Wilmington riots (Wilmington, DE)
Summit, Illinois, race riot at Argo High School, September 1968
1968: Glenville shootout and riot
1968 Miami riot
1968 Democratic National Convention
1969
1969 York race riot; York, Pennsylvania – July
1969 Hartford Riots, September 1–4, Hartford, Connecticut
1970
Augusta riot; Augusta, Georgia – May
Jackson State killings; Jackson, Mississippi – May
Asbury Park riots; Asbury Park, New Jersey – July
Chicano Moratorium, an anti Vietnam War protest turned riot in East Los Angeles – August
New Bedford Mass, Riot July 1970 Natives Blacks Cape Verdeans Puerto Ricans
1971
East LA Riots, January 31, East Los Angeles, California
Bridgeport Riots, May 20–21, Bridgeport, Connecticut
Chattanooga riot,[67] May 21–24, Chattanooga, Tennessee
Oxnard Riots, July 19, Oxnard, California
Riverside Riots, August 8–9, Riverside, California
Camden riots, August 19–22, Camden, New Jersey
1972
Escambia High School riots; Pensacola, Florida
Blackstone Park Riots, July 16–18, Boston, Massachusetts
1972: Coast of North Vietnam — USS Kitty Hawk Riot (October 12–13)
1973
Santos Rodriguez riot, Dallas, Texas July 28, 1973
Post-Civil Rights Era: 1974–1989
Boston busing crisis
Racial violence in Marquette Park, Chicago
1977
New York City Blackout riot
1978
Moody Park riots; Houston, Texas
1979
1979: Worcester, MA — Great Brook Valley Projects Riots (Puerto Ricans rioted)[68]
1980
1980 Miami riots – following the acquittal of four Miami-Dade Police officers in the death of Arthur McDuffie. McDuffie, an African-American, died from injuries sustained at the hands of four white officers trying to arrest him after a high-speed chase.
1984
1984: Lawrence race riot (Lawrence, Massachusetts), a small scale riot centered at the intersection of Haverhill and railroad streets between working class whites and Hispanics; several buildings were destroyed by Molotov cocktails; August 8, 1984.[69]
1985
1985: MOVE Bombing - May 13, 1985, the Philadelphia Police bombed a residential home occupied by the black militant anarcho-primitivist group MOVE.
1989
The list goes on.
Is there one in particular you want to limit discussion on? Let me know.
Nathan89
06-23-2021, 04:43 PM
Yeah, the political party with the old white man president is soooo against white people :lmao
And yet they create policies that exclude white people for having the wrong skin color.
ChumpDumper
06-23-2021, 04:46 PM
And yet they create policies that exclude white people for having the wrong skin color.
Which policy made you switch, Nathan?
RandomGuy
06-23-2021, 04:57 PM
And yet they create policies that exclude white people for having the wrong skin color.
Which one specifically? Do tell.
Leetonidas
06-23-2021, 06:05 PM
And yet they create policies that exclude white people for having the wrong skin color.
What policies have they created that exclude white people from anything?:lmao seriously, I'll wait
Adam Lambert
06-23-2021, 06:44 PM
Jesus Christ I've never met anyone IRL as whiny as Nathan, this has got to be a bit.
ElNono
06-23-2021, 07:36 PM
:lol pizzagaetz triggered
1407753160760889351
:lol damn, general going INNNNNNNNNNN
Thread
06-23-2021, 07:46 PM
And yet they create policies that exclude white people for having the wrong skin color.
Tell it, Nathan.
Testify!!!
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 01:59 PM
Jesus Christ I've never met anyone IRL as whiny as Nathan, this has got to be a bit.
He is a libertarian. They are all that way. You can't be a hyper-individualist and not be whiny about it.
Every thread he gets his dick up about and starts, always ends backfiring in his face. People start asking him the kinds of critical thinking questions that the right wing of the political spectrum is incapable of answering, and...
he then runs the fuck away.
Every.
Single.
Time.
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 02:07 PM
They don't teach critical race theory in public primary school you dumb fucking incel. You have no clue what it even is :lol
Here is a fun game.
Substitute the words "racism exists and is bad" for "critical race theory" or similar in any of the usual crowd's posts, and the nature of the outrage becomes way more obvious.
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 02:08 PM
"Everyone that disagrees with [teaching racism exists and is bad] is a racist.":madrun
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 02:09 PM
Most people are to blame for their lack of success. And one's choices can almost guarantee pulling yourself out of poverty. That said there are no guarantees. But that reality is far better than pretending that success is out of your control. [The] message [racism exists and is bad] is both false and terrible for anyone being taught that.
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 02:12 PM
Imagine declaring "police murdering poc" as racist. It's a vague event with no facts. Police murder white people as well which is therefore also racism apparently. Black cops murder black people so they must be racist. This image is pure ideological indoctrination.
Are the rates of fatal shooting per interaction the same?
You have implied an equivalence here.
Support that assertion.
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 02:13 PM
It is strange and sad to see "normal" liberals championing [teaching that racism exists and is bad] .
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 02:13 PM
Novel idea:
Teach kids to read, write, and do math
They can learn [racism exists and is bad], whilst attending college.
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 02:18 PM
When you can't defend ideological indoctrination then just make shit up. It's not a bad strategy.
:lol the irony. You have a few questions to answer.
If you aren't indoctrinated, fair questions should be easy for you.
Dogma can't deal with critical thinking, and fair examination of underlying assumptions.
If you can't deal with critical thinking and fair examination of underlying assumptions, you are dogmatic.
You are, therefore, the one indoctrinated. Have fun dealing with that cognitive dissonance.
Q.E.D.
baseline bum
06-24-2021, 02:30 PM
So Karrin doesn't think slavery, theft, and genocide are bad?
ChumpDumper
06-24-2021, 02:35 PM
He thinks maybe they're bad (debatable), but k-12 students need to be kept completely ignorant of any of those things if they happened in or were caused by the USA.
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 03:00 PM
He thinks maybe they're bad (debatable), but k-12 students need to be kept completely ignorant of any of those things if they happened in or were caused by the USA.
Seems to be what they are saying. "Lie to them until we think they are old enough to learn the truth".
USA as some Santa Claus-like myth.
As I say: Right wing ideology has dishonesty as a core value/tenet.
Frenchfred
06-24-2021, 04:06 PM
Lmao "denial of white privilege" is racist according these morons. It's almost like the leftist cult is try to declare everyone a racist. School choice is a must. Get your kids away from these leftist cultists.
it doesn't say that it is racist but it is one step toward that. If you don't see it, that might be part of the problem.
RandomGuy
06-24-2021, 05:34 PM
it doesn't say that it is racist but it is one step toward that. If you don't see it, that might be part of the problem.
Read a good analogy:
Let's say you want to build a large hotel, and you hate handicapped people. You build it so that it absolutely is unfriendly in every way to handicapped people.
You then sell that hotel to someone who really does not hate handicapped people. That person has no problem, and neither do any of the employees.
That new owner has to either be content to allow the place to be really unfriendly because of the way it was built, or to take steps to correct the problem, once they are aware of it.
The OP would have us ignore the design flaws.
DarrinS
06-24-2021, 06:35 PM
Conservatives don't understand CRT!
RandomGay: teaching racism exists and is bad
Fucking, lol
Nice strawman
ChumpDumper
06-24-2021, 06:47 PM
Conservatives don't understand CRT!
RandomGay: teaching racism exists and is bad
Fucking, lol
Nice strawmanWhat is your definition of CRT, Darrin?
Please answer for once.
Adam Lambert
06-24-2021, 06:56 PM
Conservatives don't understand CRT!
RandomGay: teaching racism exists and is bad
Fucking, lol
Nice strawman
You don't know what CRT is. If you did, you wouldn't keep avoiding the question.
DarrinS
06-24-2021, 07:12 PM
You don't know what CRT is. If you did, you wouldn't keep avoiding the question.
Racial hypersensitivity training
Is that terse enough?
spurraider21
06-24-2021, 07:26 PM
Racial hypersensitivity training
Is that terse enough?
:lmao
DarrinS
06-24-2021, 08:15 PM
It's the opposite of this
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
spurraider21
06-24-2021, 10:37 PM
It's the opposite of this
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
not really, they're pretty well compatible.
its like trying to argue that MLK judged people by the color of their skin and not the content of their character because he advocated for race-based policies and solutions
Thread
06-24-2021, 11:09 PM
not really, they're pretty well compatible.
its like trying to argue that MLK judged people by the color of their skin and not the content of their character because he advocated for race-based policies and solutions
Thank you.
Nathan89
06-24-2021, 11:29 PM
Are the rates of fatal shooting per interaction the same?
You have implied an equivalence here.
Support that assertion.
The rates being different isn't evidence of racism.
Are the rates between fatal shootings between men and women the same? No. The rates between men and women is even more drastic. For some reason this isn't being pushed. The people pushing this are doing so based on ideology. And their ideology positions males as privileged so they aren't pushing this narrative. They'll run wild with their racial narrative only because it fits their ideology and agenda.
Thread
06-24-2021, 11:31 PM
The rates being different isn't evidence of racism.
Are the rates between fatal shootings between men and women the same? No. The rates between men and women is even more drastic. For some reason this isn't being pushed. The people pushing this are doing so based on ideology. And their ideology positions males as privileged so they aren't pushing this narrative. They'll run wild with their racial narrative only because it fits their ideology and agenda.
Bully, bully for you, Nathan.
Nathan
DarrinS
06-24-2021, 11:49 PM
not really, they're pretty well compatible.
its like trying to argue that MLK judged people by the color of their skin and not the content of their character because he advocated for race-based policies and solutions
Word salad
CRT has a premise of systemic racism. There's a group of oppressors (whites) and groups of victims (everyone else). The only way to dismantle these "inequities" is to dismantle the structure.
Nathan89
06-24-2021, 11:50 PM
Which one specifically? Do tell.
Yet Another Federal Court Tells Biden That He Can’t Exclude White People From His Relief Programs
https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2021/06/12/yet-another-federal-court-tells-biden-that-he-cant-exclude-whites-from-his-relief-programs/?sh=430ea6975e1f
Nathan89
06-24-2021, 11:53 PM
Here is a fun game.
Substitute the words "racism exists and is bad" for "critical race theory" or similar in any of the usual crowd's posts, and the nature of the outrage becomes way more obvious.
"Here is a fun game.
Build strawmen."
Thread
06-24-2021, 11:54 PM
Yet Another Federal Court Tells Biden That He Can’t Exclude White People From His Relief Programs
https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2021/06/12/yet-another-federal-court-tells-biden-that-he-cant-exclude-whites-from-his-relief-programs/?sh=430ea6975e1f
Won't find this on CNN. No sir!!!
Nathan89
06-24-2021, 11:59 PM
Won't find this on CNN. No sir!!!
Coach Pop and our other moral leaders are also strangely silent about the racism.
Winehole23
06-25-2021, 12:38 AM
lol sensitive right wing mope-groping
lol the goal post move to bad insensitivity training
Thread
06-25-2021, 01:09 AM
lol sensitive right wing mope-groping
lol the goal post move to bad insensitivity training
Most likely I'll end up in a re-education camp, or, behind a chain link fence like Harry Dean Stanton in -Red Dawn- beseeching my 3 sons..."Avenge me, boys. Avenge me!!!"
In response, in three part harmony they'll query their old man, Winester..."Where's the will, schnooks?":lol
Trainwreck2100
06-25-2021, 01:29 AM
:lol pizzagaetz triggered
1407753160760889351
my favorite part of that is him saying he wants to understand why all them white people stormed the capital, like there's anything to understand there because the reasons a batshit insane
Thread
06-25-2021, 01:40 AM
my favorite part of that is him saying he wants to understand why all them white people stormed the capital, like there's anything to understand there because the reasons a batshit insane
You got nary room, wrecky...mother fucker Biden trumped/tee, hee their "batshit insane" by threatening Americans with fighter jets & nukes!!!
How much you wanna bet Milley doesn't question nor comment on that, hey? tee, hee.
ElNono
06-25-2021, 02:18 AM
You got nary room, wrecky...mother fucker Biden trumped/tee, hee their "batshit insane" by threatening Americans with fighter jets & nukes!!!
How much you wanna bet Milley doesn't question nor comment on that, hey? tee, hee.
https://lafeber.com/pet-birds/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/gamaliel-troubleson-u9PsLITXMCQ-unsplash-e1587001975887.jpg
spurraider21
06-25-2021, 02:26 AM
Word salad
CRT has a premise of systemic racism. There's a group of oppressors (whites) and groups of victims (everyone else). The only way to dismantle these "inequities" is to dismantle the structure.
Word salad? It was a very simple sentence.
and the description you gave is completely compatible with what i said in my post
Thread
06-25-2021, 02:29 AM
https://lafeber.com/pet-birds/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/gamaliel-troubleson-u9PsLITXMCQ-unsplash-e1587001975887.jpg
Your side gives me a hanger like Biden threatening to bomb us and nuke us I'm knocking it out of the park every day that ends in (y), aka as parroting it. It's just too choice to leave alone. Mother fucker Biden opened his cocksucker and brought it upon all of ya's.
Your regrets are your own.
I've no sympathy for you.
Let us proceed...
ElNono
06-25-2021, 02:31 AM
Your side gives me a hanger like Biden threatening to bomb us and nuke us I'm knocking it out of the park every day that ends in (y), aka as parroting it. It's just too choice to leave alone. Mother fucker Biden opened his cocksucker and brought it upon all of ya's.
Your regrets are your own.
I've no sympathy for you.
Let us proceed...
https://lafeber.com/pet-birds/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/gamaliel-troubleson-u9PsLITXMCQ-unsplash-e1587001975887.jpg
Thread
06-25-2021, 02:43 AM
^^^ I ain't lettin' it go, El.
This, I vow!!!
CHARGE!!!!!!!!!
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 08:30 AM
"Here is a fun game.
Build strawmen."
Unstrawman it. Define CRT.
If you can't/won't provide a working definition of the thing you are bitching about, you cannot call out someone for trying to figure out what you are all trying to say.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 08:33 AM
Word salad
CRT has a premise of systemic racism. There's a group of oppressors (whites) and groups of victims (everyone else). The only way to dismantle these "inequities" is to dismantle the structure.
Yay, we're getting close.
What I see there is a fair attempt. "racism exists and is bad"
Is it possible for racism to be built into a system, like say redlining insurance (often based on zip codes) or bank loans, and no one really consciously being supportive of it?
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 08:40 AM
Coach Pop and our other moral leaders are also strangely silent about the racism.
(takes four seconds to search on google for the terms "Popovich" and "racism")
https://sports.yahoo.com/gregg-popovich-gives-emotional-statement-our-country-is-in-trouble-and-the-basic-reason-is-race-204358892.html
Gregg Popovich gives emotional statement: 'Our country is in trouble and the basic reason is race'
Liz Roscher
June 6, 2020·4 min read
San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich is continuing his long tradition of speaking out on important issues.
The Spurs posted a video from Popovich to their Twitter account on Saturday as part of their “Spurs Voices” campaign. Popovich spoke eloquently and often emotionally about how it felt as a white person to watch the video of Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin putting his knee on George Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes, essentially choking the life out of him.
Floyd died in police custody, and Chauvin has been charged with second-degree murder.
"In a strange, counterintuitive sort of way, the best teaching moment of this recent tragedy, I think, was the look on the officer's face. For white people to see how nonchalant, how casual, just how everyday-going-about-his job, so much so that he could just put his left hand in his pocket, wriggle his knee around a little bit to teach this person some sort of a lesson -- and that it was his right and his duty to do it, in his mind.
"I don't know. I think I'm just embarrassed as a white person to know that that can happen. To actually watch a lynching. We've all seen books, and you look in the books and you see black people hanging off of trees. And you ... are amazed. But we just saw it again. I never thought I'd see that, with my own eyes, in real time."
"It’s important that we as white people... we have to do it. Black people have been shouldering this burden for 400 years. The only reason this nation has made the progress it has is because of the persistence, patience and effort of black people. The history of our nation from the very beginning in many ways was a lie, and we continue to this day, mostly black and brown people, to try to make that lie a truth so that it is no longer a lie. And those rights and privileges are enjoyed by people of color, just like we enjoy them. So it's got to be us, in my opinion, that speak truth to power, and call it out, no matter what the consequences. We have to speak. We have to not let anything go."
"It's just a situation that is very similar to me. It’s like the gun arguments. What's it going to take? Two few more black people with knees in their necks? I don't think so. I don't think that's going to happen. How many more Sandy Hooks do we have to have? It's easy for people to let things go, because it doesn't involve them.
"It's like the neighborhood where you know there's a dangerous corner, and you know that something's going to happen someday, and nobody does anything. And then a young kid gets killed and a stop sign goes up. Well, without getting too political, we've got a lot of stop signs that need to go up -- quickly -- because our country is in trouble. And the basic reason is race."
:lol Nathanislazy89
Hypothesis: Nathan89 is indoctrinated by propaganda he consumes. This propaganda never really shows people speaking out about racism in a constructive meaningful way. This makes him very unaware of such statements.
Evidence:
Nathan did not know that Popovich spoke rather forcefully on the issue.
Analysis: That evidence is fully consistent with the Hypothesis that Nathan89 has been indoctrinated into thinking racism doesn't exist or isn't a problem because of his choices of information.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 08:53 AM
my favorite part of that is him saying he wants to understand why all them white people stormed the capital, like there's anything to understand there because the reasons a batshit insane
True that.
But understanding why these people are "batshit insane" involves coming to the realization that they are deeply delusional.
They are deeply delusional, because they have been (wait for it) indoctrinated by right-wing propaganda sources. Just. Like. Nathan.
Understanding the reasons WHY then become important. Conflict is what this gentleman's job is about, and one dimension of that is information, and always has been. Never more so than now.
Understanding why people self-indoctrinate, and how provides important context in formulating effective strategy. This is one of the prime lessons of Vietnam, and was re-learned in Iraq at great cost.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 08:55 AM
Unstrawman it. Define CRT.
If you can't/won't provide a working definition of the thing you are bitching about, you cannot call out someone for trying to figure out what you are all trying to say.
You played your strawman building game with my comment that didn't include the phrase "crt". Therefore yes it is easy to call out disingenuous people building strawmen.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 08:59 AM
The rates being different isn't evidence of racism.
Are the rates between fatal shootings between men and women the same? No. The rates between men and women is even more drastic. For some reason this isn't being pushed. The people pushing this are doing so based on ideology. And their ideology positions males as privileged so they aren't pushing this narrative. They'll run wild with their racial narrative only because it fits their ideology and agenda.
They have isolated all other factors but race in analyzing available data on police shooting.
In the exact same circumstances black people are more likely to have force used on them, often deadly force.
What is then the appropriate conclusion to draw from this? It is consistent with racial bias.
What is your alternative proposed theory?
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 09:01 AM
You played your strawman building game with my comment that didn't include the phrase "crt". Therefore yes it is easy to call out disingenuous people building strawmen.
You don't like it because it points out the racist streak on the part of the right wing of which you all are consciously or unconsciously unaware.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 09:02 AM
(takes four seconds to search on google for the terms "Popovich" and "racism")
https://sports.yahoo.com/gregg-popovich-gives-emotional-statement-our-country-is-in-trouble-and-the-basic-reason-is-race-204358892.html
Gregg Popovich gives emotional statement: 'Our country is in trouble and the basic reason is race'
Liz Roscher
June 6, 2020·4 min read
San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich is continuing his long tradition of speaking out on important issues.
The Spurs posted a video from Popovich to their Twitter account on Saturday as part of their “Spurs Voices” campaign. Popovich spoke eloquently and often emotionally about how it felt as a white person to watch the video of Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin putting his knee on George Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes, essentially choking the life out of him.
Floyd died in police custody, and Chauvin has been charged with second-degree murder.
:lol Nathanislazy89
Hypothesis: Nathan89 is indoctrinated by propaganda he consumes. This propaganda never really shows people speaking out about racism in a constructive meaningful way. This makes him very unaware of such statements.
Evidence:
Nathan did not know that Popovich spoke rather forcefully on the issue.
Analysis: That evidence is fully consistent with the Hypothesis that Nathan89 has been indoctrinated into thinking racism doesn't exist or isn't a problem because of his choices of information.
Calling me lazy and then responding with something unrelated to my comment is funny tbh.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 09:05 AM
You don't like it because it points out the racist streak on the part of the right wing of which you all are consciously or unconsciously unaware.
In typical fashion you've read racism into something to demonize and divide. Racism just means someone disagrees with me to the modern left. A watered down irrelevant term.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 09:07 AM
Imagine declaring "police murdering poc" as racist. It's a vague event with no facts. Police murder white people as well which is therefore also racism apparently. Black cops murder black people so they must be racist. This image is pure ideological indoctrination.
Are the rates of fatal shooting per interaction the same?
You have implied an equivalence here.
Support that assertion.
The rates being different isn't evidence of racism.
Racial/Ethnic Disparities in the Use of Lethal Force by US Police, 2010–2014
Objectives. To update previous examinations of racial/ethnic disparities in the use of lethal force by US police.
Methods. I examined online national vital statistics data for deaths assigned an underlying cause of “legal intervention” (International Classification of Diseases, 10th Revision, external-cause-of-injury codes Y35.0–Y35.7, excluding Y35.5 [legal execution]) for the 5-year period 2010 to 2014.
Results. Death certificates identified 2285 legal intervention deaths (1.5 per million population per year) from 2010 to 2014. Among males aged 10 years or older, who represented 96% of these deaths, the mortality rate among non-Hispanic Black and Hispanic individuals was 2.8 and 1.7 times higher, respectively, than that among White individuals.
Conclusions. Substantial racial/ethnic disparities in legal intervention deaths remain an ongoing problem in the United States.
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2016.303575
It is a fact there is a disparity. This disparity is explained by "systemic racism".
Feel free to provide an alternative hypothesis.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 09:08 AM
Your side gives me a hanger like Biden threatening to bomb us and nuke us I'm knocking it out of the park every day that ends in (y), aka as parroting it. It's just too choice to leave alone. Mother fucker Biden opened his cocksucker and brought it upon all of ya's.
Your regrets are your own.
I've no sympathy for you.
Let us proceed...
Pure evil. Imagine voting for him thinking he was going to make things "Normal" again.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 09:08 AM
In typical fashion you've read racism into something to demonize and divide. Racism just means someone disagrees with me to the modern left. A watered down irrelevant term.
racism rā′sĭz″əm►
n. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
n. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
n. The belief that each race has distinct and intrinsic attributes.
I would hold to that as the "meaning" of racism. It seems reasonable and commonly accepted, unlike your indoctrinated definition.
Why is your definition better?
Adam Lambert
06-25-2021, 09:10 AM
CRT has a premise of systemic racism.
True.
There's a group of oppressors (whites) and groups of victims (everyone else).
Gross oversimplification, but you get your white grievance points.
The only way to dismantle these "inequities" is to dismantle the structure.
That may be the conclusion one draws from CRT but to my knowledge "dismantle the structure" is not a component of CRT itself. CRT is about understanding the current structure and how it came to be.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 09:10 AM
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2016.303575
It is a fact there is a disparity. This disparity is explained by "systemic racism".
Feel free to provide an alternative hypothesis.
And the disparity between men and women is explained by systemic sexism?
ChumpDumper
06-25-2021, 09:13 AM
Word salad
CRT has a premise of systemic racism. There's a group of oppressors (whites) and groups of victims (everyone else). The only way to dismantle these "inequities" is to dismantle the structure.
:lol all this time and you still rely on talk show hosts to tell you what CRT is.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 09:13 AM
racism rā′sĭz″əm►
n. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
n. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
n. The belief that each race has distinct and intrinsic attributes.
I would hold to that as the "meaning" of racism. It seems reasonable and commonly accepted, unlike your indoctrinated definition.
Why is your definition better?
I'm not looking for a definition. I'm merely highlighting the real world usage of the word.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 09:14 AM
Coach Pop ... [is] also strangely silent about the racism.
(takes four seconds to search on google for the terms "Popovich" and "racism" and finds/posts a lengthy directly applicable statement by Popovich on racism)
Calling me lazy and then responding with something unrelated to my comment is funny tbh.
:rollin
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 09:17 AM
I'm not looking for a definition. I'm merely highlighting the real world usage of the word.
No, you are not.
You are providing an indoctrinated definition. If it were real, and readily ascertainable, there would be no doubt, and it would be easy to find in the linguistic sources everybody commonly uses.
Your propaganda masters have told you what that definition is, and you dutifully come into places like this thinking it is valid.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 09:20 AM
No, you are not.
You are providing an indoctrinated definition.
Your propaganda masters have told you what that definition is, and you dutifully come into places like this thinking it is valid.
It's a definition based on real world application. If they were honest they would insert that definition in the future because they do change definitions based on real world application.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 09:21 AM
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/do...PH.2016.303575
It is a fact there is a disparity. This disparity is explained by "systemic racism".
Feel free to provide an alternative hypothesis.
And the disparity between men and women is explained by systemic sexism?
I have asked you a critical thinking question. Indoctrinated people do not think critically.
If you are not indoctrinated, you should be able to honestly answer.
What is your alternative hypothesis, if the fact of disparity is not systemic racism?
Adam Lambert
06-25-2021, 09:23 AM
Discussions on affordable housing zoning and school funding would make Nathan and Darrin's brains get hurty, so it's much easier to just brand CRT as "White People Bad" because it gives them an excuse to dismiss it outright.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 09:25 AM
No, you are not.
You are providing an indoctrinated definition.
Your propaganda masters have told you what that definition is, and you dutifully come into places like this thinking it is valid.
It's a definition based on real world application. If they were honest they would insert that definition in the future because they do change definitions based on real world application.
Usages become common when everybody agrees on them. Subgroups always use words differently than everybody else as part of that identity.
Your identity relies on the usage of this non-standard usage, because that is how indoctrination works.
I reject your definition, because of that indoctrination. It assume things not in evidence, and things that can be directly contradicted by evidence. I am left-wing, and that is not my understanding of the term. There is plenty of things I disagree with that are just simply stupid or counterfactual, and I don't call racist.
Sorry, you have failed here.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 09:26 AM
I have asked you a critical thinking question. Indoctrinated people do not think critically.
If you are not indoctrinated, you should be able to honestly answer.
What is your alternative hypothesis, if the fact of disparity is not systemic racism?
I've asked you a question. Does the ideological left insist the reason there is a disparity between men and women is because of systemic anti-male sexism?
ChumpDumper
06-25-2021, 09:31 AM
It's a definition based on real world application. If they were honest they would insert that definition in the future because they do change definitions based on real world application.
So MAGA can now be understood to be racist when used by whitey in certain situations.:tu
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 09:31 AM
Discussions on affordable housing zoning and school funding would make Nathan and Darrin's brains get hurty, so it's much easier to just brand CRT as "White People Bad" because it gives them an excuse to dismiss it outright.
That is essentially it. It is a strawman (dishonesty) that they are drawn to. Nathan here uses language as subgroups always use language.
Outside the delusional bubble, it is easy to see the lie for what it is.
Inside that bubble, it forms a core part of the identity. "we are victims".
They get cognitive dissonance when show lists of racial massacres perpetrated by their identified group "white people", because that information showing white people victimizing others works against that. This is why I post these kinds of facts. You will note that long ass list was completely glossed over in their responses.
Confirmation bias, and human laziness does the rest.
Sort of a self-feeding cycle.
Once you identify the delusional idea they hold in their head, finding things that cause that cognitive dissonance is not too hard. :D
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 09:35 AM
I have asked you a critical thinking question. Indoctrinated people do not think critically.
If you are not indoctrinated, you should be able to honestly answer.
What is your alternative hypothesis, if the fact of disparity is not systemic racism?
I've asked you a question. Does the ideological left insist the reason there is a disparity between men and women is because of systemic anti-male sexism?
I asked you first. But since I value both critical thinking and honesty, I will answer.
No we do not. The human species is, in fact, sexually dimorphous. This dimorphism fully explains the disparity.
Now, answer my question:
I have asked you a critical thinking question. Indoctrinated people do not think critically.
If you are not indoctrinated, you should be able to honestly answer.
What is your alternative hypothesis, if the fact of disparity is not systemic racism?
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 10:47 AM
So MAGA can now be understood to be racist when used by whitey in certain situations.:tu
Do you refer to black people as blacky or is this another outgrowth from being indoctrinated by anti-white leftist ideology?
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 10:56 AM
Are the rates of fatal shooting per interaction the same?
You have implied an equivalence here.
Support that assertion.
The rates being different isn't evidence of racism.
Are the rates between fatal shootings between men and women the same? No. The rates between men and women is even more drastic. For some reason this isn't being pushed. The people pushing this are doing so based on ideology. And their ideology positions males as privileged so they aren't pushing this narrative. They'll run wild with their racial narrative only because it fits their ideology and agenda.
The rates being different isn't evidence of racism. One can't just throw leftist umbrella terms like systemic racism at something just because something is different and that something fits their ideological worldview. The left has no interest in reality. They only care about pushing their worldview. Which is why they push systemic racism as the reason for the difference between race but do not push systemic anti-male sexism as the reason for the difference between men and women. So stop trying to push your baseless ideology in the education system.
Trainwreck2100
06-25-2021, 11:33 AM
You got nary room, wrecky...mother fucker Biden trumped/tee, hee their "batshit insane" by threatening Americans with fighter jets & nukes!!!
How much you wanna bet Milley doesn't question nor comment on that, hey? tee, hee.
Your guy wanted to nuke hurricanes and send americans to gitmo so hes just going off established precident
Thread
06-25-2021, 11:40 AM
Your guy wanted to nuke hurricanes and send americans to gitmo so hes just going off established precident
But your side and your Biden swore up and down he wasn't going to be President Trump's fart catcher. Except for raising the gasoline a buck a gallon he's just like President Trump. Right?
Extra Stout
06-25-2021, 11:59 AM
The rates being different isn't evidence of racism. One can't just throw leftist umbrella terms like systemic racism at something just because something is different and that something fits their ideological worldview. The left has no interest in reality. They only care about pushing their worldview. Which is why they push systemic racism as the reason for the difference between race but do not push systemic anti-male sexism as the reason for the difference between men and women. So stop trying to push your baseless ideology in the education system.
There are biological differences between men and women that explain the differences in violent behavior between men and women. Do you believe there are biological differences among the races that explain socioeconomic inequities?
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 12:48 PM
I have asked you a critical thinking question. Indoctrinated people do not think critically.
If you are not indoctrinated, you should be able to honestly answer.
What is your alternative hypothesis, if the fact of disparity is not systemic racism?
I've asked you a question. Does the ideological left insist the reason there is a disparity between men and women is because of systemic anti-male sexism?
I asked you first. But since I value both critical thinking and honesty, I will answer.
No we do not. The human species is, in fact, sexually dimorphous. This dimorphism fully explains the disparity.
Now, answer my question:
I have asked you a critical thinking question. Indoctrinated people do not think critically.
If you are not indoctrinated, you should be able to honestly answer.
What is your alternative hypothesis, if the fact of disparity is not systemic racism?
The rates being different isn't evidence of racism.
That isn't an answer.
I can now reasonably conclude two things.
1) you are indoctrinated, and
2) you have no alternate theory.
We have a hypothesis (systemic racism), and the available evidence (the fact of disparate rates) supports that hypothesis.
You claim, repeatedly that this is NOT evidence of racism, but are unable to cobble together a reasonable alternative hypothesis that explains the facts.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”-- Hitchens.
The implication behind your assertion is that there is some alternative theory that explains the facts. If it is not "racism" then it must be some other cause.
You don't have to have a specific theory but barring that, no reasonable, non-indoctrinated critical thinker would accept your statement.
If you want to be billy-badass libertarian avenger, you find some alternative theory. Otherwise, no one should accept your assertion.
boutons_deux
06-25-2021, 01:03 PM
the racist discrimination of police is mirrored by the racist discrimination in medical care
blacks and browns with the same medical condition get less treatment, less aggressive treatment than whites,
and so suffer and die at a higher rate for same medical conditions for lack of appropriate treatment
boutons_deux
06-25-2021, 01:05 PM
Pop is obviously right.
White Male Supremacy, along with its partner Capitalism, are the fundamental, probably mortal failures of America's attempt at democracy.
Frenchfred
06-25-2021, 01:09 PM
But your side and your Biden swore up and down he wasn't going to be President Trump's fart catcher. Except for raising the gasoline a buck a gallon he's just like President Trump. Right?
Biden didn't say that it would nuke the population. He said: "If you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons" . He never said that he would nuke the american population just that it is impossible on taking down the US government with weapons. But again, it seems that your reading skills are really bad and it is not my first language. Funny to see a foreigner teach you your own language, maybe immigration is not bad, it would replace your mediocrity with smarter people.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 01:09 PM
the racist discrimination of police is mirrored by the racist discrimination in medical care
blacks and browns with the same medical condition get less treatment, less aggressive treatment than whites,
and so suffer and die at a higher rate for same medical conditions for lack of appropriate treatment
That disparate treatment is another fact with peer-reviewed science behind it. A fact, I would be willing to bet, to which that nathan89s indoctrination has made him blind.
That fact is also explained by causal hypothesis systemic racism.
Blake
06-25-2021, 01:17 PM
"Here is a fun game.
Build strawmen."
You love that game, don't you
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 01:22 PM
Pop is obviously right.
White Male Supremacy, along with its partner Capitalism, are the fundamental, probably mortal failures of America's attempt at democracy.
Imagine declaring "police murdering poc" as racist. It's a vague event with no facts.
[points out specific events with peer-reviewed article concerning racial disparities in police use of force]
The theory of systemic racism explains these facts.
Feel free to provide an alternative hypothesis.
[Deflection, asserts racism does not explain the facts]
[repeats question/request]
[repeats deflection, demands that deflection be addressed instead]
[gives in and responds to deflection, repeats request]
[repeats assertion that systemic racism is not the explanation for the fact of disproportionate use of force by police, ignores request for alternate theory]
[concludes Nathan cannot provide an alternate theory, rejects assertion out of hand on that basis]
sooo there we are.
Nathan's position here is, in essence "nuh uh" when confronted with the FACT that systemic racism theory adequately explains the other facts of observed racial disparities.
I have asserted with evidence.
Nathan has not.
Really is that simple when the long texts are boiled down. Thoughts?
ChumpDumper
06-25-2021, 01:25 PM
Do you refer to black people as blacky or is this another outgrowth from being indoctrinated by anti-white leftist ideology?wut
Thread
06-25-2021, 01:27 PM
Biden didn't say that it would nuke the population. He said: "If you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons" . He never said that he would nuke the american population just that it is impossible on taking down the US government with weapons. But again, it seems that your reading skills are really bad and it is not my first language. Funny to see a foreigner teach you your own language, maybe immigration is not bad, it would replace your mediocrity with smarter people.
Now, NOW, now you want to parse words for your guy. No. Uh, uh, not on your sweet bippy, fred. Mother fucker Biden threatened to F-14 Fighter Jet us and nuke us "sick" "chumps" just after he begged us to unite with him. The fuckin' nerve. He can go pound salt. NO!!!
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 01:42 PM
Biden didn't say that it would nuke the population. He said: "If you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons" . He never said that he would nuke the american population just that it is impossible on taking down the US government with weapons. But again, it seems that your reading skills are really bad and it is not my first language. Funny to see a foreigner teach you your own language, maybe immigration is not bad, it would replace your mediocrity with smarter people.
Here is one for you. We were talking about the definition of words before, here is one:
delusional
adjective
having false or unrealistic beliefs or opinions
A:[theory X explains facts Y and Z]
B:[No, it doesn't]
A:[ok, then what does?]
B:[Theory X does not explain facts Y and Z, and... squirrels]
A:[um, what? and again, what theory explains Y and Z in your viewpoint?]
B:[look at that squirrel over there!]
A:[ok, fine that is a nice squirrel. what theory do you have that explains Y and Z?]
B:[Theory X does not explain facts Y and Z]
Is B's behavior delusional here?
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 02:29 PM
Yet Another Federal Court Tells Biden That He Can’t Exclude White People From His Relief Programs
https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2021/06/12/yet-another-federal-court-tells-biden-that-he-cant-exclude-whites-from-his-relief-programs/?sh=430ea6975e1f
Won't find this on CNN. No sir!!!
Coach Pop and our other moral leaders are also strangely silent about the racism.
(takes four seconds to search on google for the terms "Popovich" and "racism")
https://sports.yahoo.com/gregg-popovich-gives-emotional-statement-our-country-is-in-trouble-and-the-basic-reason-is-race-204358892.html
Gregg Popovich gives emotional statement: 'Our country is in trouble and the basic reason is race'
Liz Roscher
June 6, 2020·4 min read
San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich is continuing his long tradition of speaking out on important issues.
The Spurs posted a video from Popovich to their Twitter account on Saturday as part of their “Spurs Voices” campaign. Popovich spoke eloquently and often emotionally about how it felt as a white person to watch the video of Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin putting his knee on George Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes, essentially choking the life out of him.
Floyd died in police custody, and Chauvin has been charged with second-degree murder.
:lol Nathanislazy89
Hypothesis: Nathan89 is indoctrinated by propaganda he consumes. This propaganda never really shows people speaking out about racism in a constructive meaningful way. This makes him very unaware of such statements.
Evidence:
Nathan did not know that Popovich spoke rather forcefully on the issue.
Analysis: That evidence is fully consistent with the Hypothesis that Nathan89 has been indoctrinated into thinking racism doesn't exist or isn't a problem because of his choices of information.
Just some context highlighting why your comment is unrelated nonsense.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 02:54 PM
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2016.303575
It is a fact there is a disparity. This disparity is explained by "systemic racism".
Feel free to provide an alternative hypothesis.
The rates being different isn't evidence of racism. One can't just throw leftist umbrella terms like systemic racism at something just because something is different and that something fits their ideological worldview. The left has no interest in reality. They only care about pushing their worldview. Which is why they push systemic racism as the reason for the difference between race but do not push systemic anti-male sexism as the reason for the difference between men and women. So stop trying to push your baseless ideology in the education system.
Disparity is not evidence of racism. Disparity can occur as a result of group differences in behavior during police encounters. If a population resists more often they'll find more margin or error results like George Floyd did. There are also many other factors that increase the likelihood of a black person getting different results than a white person such as living in higher crime areas which increases the tension of every encounter.
The ideological left from academia to media isn't interested in anything beyond pushing their agenda. Systemic racism is one of their many vehicles. Systemic anti-male sexism is not going to be pushed as it doesn't fit their agenda.
Blake
06-25-2021, 02:55 PM
Your side gives me a hanger like Biden threatening to bomb us and nuke us I'm knocking it out of the park every day that ends in (y), aka as parroting it. It's just too choice to leave alone. Mother fucker Biden opened his cocksucker and brought it upon all of ya's.
Your regrets are your own.
I've no sympathy for you.
Let us proceed...
Lol "regrets"
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 02:56 PM
https://twitter.com/theREALbenORR/status/1408041591567224839?s=20
Another victim of the anti-white ideological indoctrination being pushed in the education system.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 03:17 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveHiltonx/status/1408502956555595777?s=20
If this is true and the public indoctrination system isn't producing better results then school choice should be demanded by everyone.
Adam Lambert
06-25-2021, 03:53 PM
"If this unsourced tweet is true"
:lmao
You believe whatever you want to believe.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 04:03 PM
https://twitter.com/DeAngelisCorey/status/1408433182987411468?s=20
Adam Lambert
06-25-2021, 04:06 PM
Good. Teachers should be paid more. Maybe they'll attract better ones.
ElNono
06-25-2021, 04:10 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveHiltonx/status/1408502956555595777?s=20
If this is true and the public indoctrination system isn't producing better results then school choice should be demanded by everyone.
:tu
Great news... Hopefully the rest of the country follows suit.
Nathan is a prime example of why investing in education is crucial.
Blake
06-25-2021, 04:15 PM
https://twitter.com/SteveHiltonx/status/1408502956555595777?s=20
If this is true and the public indoctrination system isn't producing better results then school choice should be demanded by everyone.
https://educationdata.org/public-education-spending-statistics
About $14k per public school student in the US and California.
I'll admit it would be interesting to see the complete breakdown of numbers. Does that include bussing, after school care programs, football stadiums, etc?
ElNono
06-25-2021, 04:26 PM
https://educationdata.org/public-education-spending-statistics
About $14k per public school student in the US and California.
I'll admit it would be interesting to see the complete breakdown of numbers. Does that include bussing, after school care programs, football stadiums, etc?
And that link is not even including College education when compared to Europe, which also largely has a free, publicly funded, high quality College system.
boutons_deux
06-25-2021, 04:59 PM
RWNJs vomit a straw man of school indoctrination accompanied by equally fabricated outrage, demanding solutions where there is no problem.
Joseph Kony
06-25-2021, 05:01 PM
https://twitter.com/theREALbenORR/status/1408041591567224839?s=20
Another victim of the anti-white ideological indoctrination being pushed in the education system.
Magatards have no shame, forcing their kids to go up their and spew this bullshit for them. absolutely disgusting
Trainwreck2100
06-25-2021, 05:05 PM
But your side and your Biden swore up and down he wasn't going to be President Trump's fart catcher. Except for raising the gasoline a buck a gallon he's just like President Trump. Right?
You're guy did it first i heard nary a peep from you nary a peep
Adam Lambert
06-25-2021, 05:12 PM
Magatards have no shame, forcing their kids to go up their and spew this bullshit for them. absolutely disgusting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 05:15 PM
Just some context highlighting why your comment is unrelated nonsense.
Gotcha. You were talking about your delusional anti-white racism. as in :cry "why aren't people talking about this made up thing I think is real"
Apologies. I'm just not tuned in to your delusional mindset. You have to be a bit more plain, because I have not been steeped in your indoctrination.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 05:20 PM
Disparity can occur as a result of group differences in behavior during police encounters. If a population resists more often they'll find more margin or error results like George Floyd did. There are also many other factors that increase the likelihood of a black person getting different results than a white person such as living in higher crime areas which increases the tension of every encounter.
Well shit, it only took five requests to get an alternate theory as to the disparity.
Looks like you have a testable hypothesis now. "group differences in behavior"
What evidence do you have that race is correlated to "group differences in behavior"?
https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/notracist2.png
Thread
06-25-2021, 05:21 PM
You're guy did it first i heard nary a peep from you nary a peep
That's your look out, wrecky, right?
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 05:27 PM
Good. Teachers should be paid more. Maybe they'll attract better ones.
Awesome.
Better teachers equals better critical thinkers.
Better critical thinkers means fewer Republicans. This is why Republicans hate education.
Blake
06-25-2021, 05:30 PM
Magatards have no shame, forcing their kids to go up their and spew this bullshit for them. absolutely disgusting
They gripe about handouts but want the government to pay for their kids private education.
Blake
06-25-2021, 05:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g
Wow what a multicultural extravaganza
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 05:31 PM
"If this unsourced tweet is true"
:lmao
You believe whatever you want to believe.
Looks like they are adding social services. Probably a good thing.
Public schools, unlike private schools, are required by law to take ALL comers. This includes the really expensive special needs kids that private schools reject.
Public schools should therefore have higher costs per student.
Morons like Nathan89 don't understand this, because it is not part of their indoctrination. "government = less efficient" is a holy tenet, and the fact that public schools cost more per student is used as evidence supporting this.
Confirmation bias in action.
spurraider21
06-25-2021, 05:36 PM
https://twitter.com/theREALbenORR/status/1408041591567224839?s=20
Another victim of the anti-white ideological indoctrination being pushed in the education system.
more people who dont know what the fuck they're talking about
:cry if my life is hard then how do i have white privilege"
nothing but a demonstration of ignorance on the subject, per the usual
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 05:38 PM
Gotcha. You were talking about your delusional anti-white racism. as in :cry "why aren't people talking about this made up thing I think is real"
Apologies. I'm just not tuned in to your delusional mindset. You have to be a bit more plain, because I have not been steeped in your indoctrination.
Delusional anti-white racism is when the government overtly excludes whites.
Hear him out about this systemic racist nonsense.
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 05:46 PM
Well shit, it only took five requests to get an alternate theory as to the disparity.
Looks like you have a testable hypothesis now. "group differences in behavior"
What evidence do you have that race is correlated to "group differences in behavior"?
https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/notracist2.png
I'm glad you now recognize the default cause of disparity is not racism. Just like the default for the disparity between men and women is not sexism. The different narratives between those two circumstances is based on leftist ideology. I repeat "get your leftist ideology out of our education system". And since you guys insist on pushing your ideology the only way forward is school choice. End the public indoctrination system.
RandomGuy
06-25-2021, 05:50 PM
I'm glad you now recognize the default cause of disparity is not racism.
https://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/scully-facepalm.jpeg
I recognize no such thing, dipshit. :lol
I am asking you to support your hypothesis with evidence.
Can you?
Looks like you have a testable hypothesis now. "group differences in behavior"
What evidence do you have that race is correlated to "group differences in behavior"?
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 05:58 PM
Well shit, it only took five requests to get an alternate theory as to the disparity.
Looks like you have a testable hypothesis now. "group differences in behavior"
What evidence do you have that race is correlated to "group differences in behavior"?
https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/notracist2.png
I'm glad you now recognize the default cause of disparity is not racism. Just like the default for the disparity between men and women is not sexism. The different narratives between those two circumstances is based on leftist ideology. I repeat "get your leftist ideology out of our education system". And since you guys insist on pushing your ideology the only way forward is school choice. End the public indoctrination system.
https://www.themarysue.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/scully-facepalm.jpeg
I recognize no such thing, dipshit. :lol
I am asking you to support your hypothesis with evidence.
Can you?
Unless you have proof that I'm wrong then you recognize the default assumption isn't racism.
spurraider21
06-25-2021, 05:59 PM
Disparity is not evidence of racism. Disparity can occur as a result of group differences in behavior during police encounters. If a population resists more often they'll find more margin or error results like George Floyd did. There are also many other factors that increase the likelihood of a black person getting different results than a white person such as living in higher crime areas which increases the tension of every encounter.
it would appear the good question to ask would by why these people live in certain areas and have a propensity for poverty
Nathan89
06-25-2021, 06:04 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1407397263949901825?s=20
Magatards have no shame, forcing their kids to go up their and spew this bullshit for them. absolutely disgusting
According to this "not believing the experiences of poc" is racist so treating this child any different is a shining example of your anti-white racism. Seek help bigot.
Joseph Kony
06-25-2021, 06:27 PM
According to this "not believing the experiences of poc" is racist so treating this child any different is a shining example of your anti-white racism. Seek help bigot.
stop crying like a whiny bitch all the time Gaythan
spurraider21
06-25-2021, 11:30 PM
Waiting for the “literally 1984” crowd to denounce this
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Blake
06-26-2021, 01:34 AM
Waiting for the “literally 1984” crowd to denounce this
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"..…..We obviously want our universities to be focused on critical thinking, academic rigor," DeSantis said during a news conference Tuesday, according to the Naples Daily News.
"We do not want them as basically hotbeds for stale ideology," he said.
"It used to be thought that a university campus was a place where you'd be exposed to a lot of different ideas," DeSantis said. "Unfortunately, now the norm is, these are more intellectually repressive environments," he added. .."
I'd like to know what "stale ideology" he's referring to.
The right sure knows how to straw.
daboom1
06-26-2021, 05:18 AM
https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1408463415564177411?s=19
Frenchfred
06-26-2021, 05:23 AM
https://twitter.com/ThomasSowell/status/1408463415564177411?s=19
and you are the perfect example of that
RandomGuy
06-28-2021, 03:01 AM
Unless you have proof that I'm wrong then you recognize the default assumption isn't racism.
(facepalm)
The burden of proof is on you to prove you are right about the reason being your new theory. "prove I am wrong" is pure sophism.
RandomGuy
06-28-2021, 03:07 AM
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2016.303575
It is a fact there is a disparity. This disparity is explained by "systemic racism".
Feel free to provide an alternative hypothesis.
Disparity can occur as a result of group differences in behavior during police encounters. If a population resists more often they'll find more margin or error results like George Floyd did.
So, your response to the fact of racial disparity in outcome is... to provide a reason that is, essentially, racist, i.e. people of color have an attitude.
:rollin :lmao
You.
Dumb.
Shit.
Winehole23
06-28-2021, 01:02 PM
lol
1409501877566332929
spurraider21
06-28-2021, 01:05 PM
our education system is flawed because it does not allow competing points of view. therefore we should ban the use of a particular theory because we disagree with it!
spurraider21
06-28-2021, 01:06 PM
lol
1409501877566332929
:lmao
RandomGuy
06-29-2021, 10:32 AM
lol
1409501877566332929
At least he has the eyepatch so we don't have to listen to him to know if he is one of the bad guys.
https://i.redd.it/hw86uhxy62c21.jpg
"Are we the baddies?"
RandomGuy
06-30-2021, 12:41 PM
[Defends his assertion that systemic racism doesn't exist with a racist statement]
https://media.giphy.com/media/LGDzwkwgdw5tm/giphy.gif
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Self-pwnage noted.
That was epic. :lol
RandomGuy
07-09-2021, 07:36 AM
stop crying like a whiny bitch all the time Gaythan
He is like a little wind up doll.
The propagadists tell him what to be outraged about this week, and he comes here to regurgitate it.
Unfortunately being a wind up doll doesn't prepare him for critical thinking questions.
It would be adorable if it weren't so insidious.
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