View Full Version : NBA: Haynes: Lillard To "Push Way" Out Of Portland?
TD 21
06-27-2021, 05:02 PM
Sources: Coaching process, inability to build title contending roster may push Damian Lillard out of Portland (yahoo.com) (https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-coaching-process-inability-to-build-title-contending-roster-may-push-damian-lillard-out-of-portland-203407770.html)
Media will inevitably try to will him to one of their favorites (Warriors, L.A., Heat, Knicks, Raptors, etc.), but presuming the Trail Blazers, a traditionally competitive team, want to remain so and do a soft re-build, it seems like the 76ers check the most boxes (flawed, but star caliber youngish player who'd make sense with most of current roster, solid ancillary assets, out of conference, would have the makings of a true contender with him, etc.)
Lillard, Jones Jr. for Simmons, Hill, Maxey, maybe either Thybulle/Milton and however many requisite picks and pick swaps?
Mitch
06-27-2021, 05:40 PM
tlongII license to Lillard expiring? :lol
daboom1
06-27-2021, 06:50 PM
non-issue
MultiTroll
06-27-2021, 07:01 PM
Not familiar with Haynes.
Has kept it real in the past or another Gossip Girl Profeshunal Sports media?
tlongII license to Lillard expiring? :lol
:lol
Not familiar with Haynes.
Has kept it real in the past or another Gossip Girl Profeshunal Sports media?
He's well connected with the blazers and basically Dame's mouthpiece in the media tbh
Isitjustme?
06-27-2021, 09:08 PM
He should tbh. And I'm not one to normally support such moves but he never had teams which were real contenders around him like Durant and Harden had before they pushed their ways out.
lefty
06-27-2021, 10:06 PM
but wait
I thought it wasn’t his style and he would rather die trying in Portland rather than join a contender
timtonymanu
06-27-2021, 10:10 PM
but wait
I thought it wasn’t his style and he would rather die trying in Portland rather than join a contender
Sometimes people just want to win. Dumbass gm has a rare loyal star and he keeps surrounding him with shit like cj McCollum and anus cancer year after year and expecting dame to not be frustrated about it.
spurraider21
06-27-2021, 10:54 PM
really dont understand this recent shit with billups. its not like there was significant media backlash every time a team signed billups to play, but suddenly there are people who want him blackballed from coaching because of an event from 20 years ago?
Michael Jordan.
06-27-2021, 10:59 PM
Probably ends up in Philly for Simmons
basquetbol
06-27-2021, 11:59 PM
really dont understand this recent shit with billups. its not like there was significant media backlash every time a team signed billups to play, but suddenly there are people who want him blackballed from coaching because of an event from 20 years ago?
We're living in the #metoo rape hysteria era.
Millennial_Messiah
06-28-2021, 12:34 AM
really dont understand this recent shit with billups. its not like there was significant media backlash every time a team signed billups to play, but suddenly there are people who want him blackballed from coaching because of an event from 20 years ago?
Agreed... the guy was like 20... similar for Kidd and Zeke Elliott
but your party's cancel culture crap is responsible for all this, so you have to eat the shit sandwich tbh.
daslicer
06-28-2021, 12:44 AM
really dont understand this recent shit with billups. its not like there was significant media backlash every time a team signed billups to play, but suddenly there are people who want him blackballed from coaching because of an event from 20 years ago?
I'm in my late 30's and have never heard about this rape situation that Billups was involved in. I will say this that because he settled people are going to believe that he actually did rape the girl which creates all this backlash in this me too era.
daslicer
06-28-2021, 12:46 AM
Ultimately I don't think Dame is good enough to win it all as being the number 1 guy. I was convinced of this after '18 when he got swept by the Durantless Warriors. He's going to have to be probably a number 3 guy on a super team.
Texas_Ranger
06-28-2021, 04:47 AM
Dallas needs to pull this off somehow. Lillard wanted Kidd and is a big fan of the new Dallas GM. Dame is also just what Doncic needs. Another guard that can create for himself and for others, which would help Luka a lot, as he would not have to do everything alone.
LkrFan
06-28-2021, 05:33 AM
tlongII license to Lillard expiring? :lol
:lol
LkrFan
06-28-2021, 05:35 AM
Probably ends up in LA for Kuz, Schröder, THT, and #22
FIFY son :tu
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 06:25 AM
Dallas needs to pull this off somehow. Lillard wanted Kidd and is a big fan of the new Dallas GM. Dame is also just what Doncic needs. Another guard that can create for himself and for others, which would help Luka a lot, as he would not have to do everything alone.
They don’t have shit to trade. Golden State, Philly, are just two of many teams who could beat their offer
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 06:25 AM
FIFY son :tu
Nobody wants that shit either
DeRozan m8
06-28-2021, 06:33 AM
He was happy to sign that ridiculous contract with them and take their money...so do your part and earn your money, bitch.
Sick of these weak cowards
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 07:05 AM
They don’t have shit to trade.
You just suggested Simmons for Lillard :lmao
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 08:30 AM
You just suggested Simmons for Lillard :lmao
Simmons, Thybulle, Maxey, picks is a hella of a lot better than anything the Mavs have
Texas_Ranger
06-28-2021, 08:52 AM
Simmons, Thybulle, Maxey, picks is a hella of a lot better than anything the Mavs have
I think Porzingis is trash, but compared to Simmons he's fucking Jordan. There is no way i'd trade for a guy that cant shoot a basketball.
Zingis, Brunson and Josh Green + picks is just as shit of a deal as the Sixers one and I think Lillard would rather play for the Mavs.
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 09:16 AM
I think Porzingis is trash, but compared to Simmons he's fucking Jordan. There is no way i'd trade for a guy that cant shoot a basketball.
Zingis, Brunson and Josh Green + picks is just as shit of a deal as the Sixers one and I think Lillard would rather play for the Mavs.
first of all, Yeah Simmons’ shot is trash. At least he still has value on defense. Porzingis has no value right now. Nobody wants him. That Mavs offer you listed is will be easily beat. And the next first round pick they can trade is their 2025. Portland will trade him wherever the best offer is. And no, that Mavs offer is worse than Philly’s.
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 09:17 AM
And :lmao good fucking God. Simmons makes Porzingis look like Jordan? yeah his shot is trash. Yet Porzingis still has less value and will get back less if traded.
the absolute obsession of rocketfan with the mavericks is fascinating
actually its not, it resembles the average houstonians penis envy of dallas and how they can never shut up about dallas
tbh when a person is that obsessed over city trash talk to the point that they cant even find delight in their own city without obsessing about another, it may be a highly viable option to contemplate suicide
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 09:23 AM
the absolute obsession of rocketfan with the mavericks is fascinating
actually its not, it resembles the average houstonians penis envy of dallas and how they can never shut up about dallas
tbh when a person is that obsessed over city trash talk to the point that they cant even find delight in their own city without obsessing about another, it may be a highly viable option to contemplate suicide
You sound like an absolute bitch right now. “Don’t talk about my team”. Nigga this the NBA forum. Grow a sack.
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 09:26 AM
Mav fan says: “don’t talk about Cuban blowing up a championship team, don’t talk about Roddy B being the most overrated player of all time, don’t talk about Cuban being a shitty owner”.
Naw it was funny last summer with the front office drama in Houston. With the shit going on in Dallas it ain’t so funny now is it?
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 09:26 AM
Mav fan says: “don’t talk about Cuban blowing up a championship team, don’t talk about Roddy B being the most overrated player of all time, don’t talk about Cuban being a shitty owner”. Naw it was funny last summer with the front office drama in Houston. With the shit going on in Dallas it ain’t so funny now is it?
You sound like an absolute bitch right now. “Don’t talk about my team”. Nigga this the NBA forum. Grow a sack.
'grow a sack' is where were at then intellectually huh? you seem like a really cool guy, i imagine that is the type of sentiment a lot of really interesting, intelligent men who are fundamentally happy and fulfilled in their lives find themselves expressing to strangers on the internet
ps...did you go to a high school for people with "learning differences"? (honest question, not meant to be funny. yours was one of the most intellectually incoherent response I've seen)
pps... since you consider yourself basketball savvy: do you think there are a lot of yesterdays NBA candidates who were impressed by Mike's grandstanding move, or do you suspect as I do that just maybe it was a move designed to impress the lowest common denomenator of our society (...people like you)?
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 09:33 AM
first of all, Yeah Simmons’ shot is trash. At least he still has value on defense. Porzingis has no value right now. Nobody wants him. That Mavs offer you listed is will be easily beat. And the next first round pick they can trade is their 2025. Portland will trade him wherever the best offer is. And no, that Mavs offer is worse than Philly’s.
Doesn’t matter who has a better deal, if Dame pulls a Harden and dictates that he’ll only go to Dallas, then they’ll take whatever they can get, the same way Houston accepted that garbage deal from Brooklyn :lmao
They’d only trade Dame if they want to blow it up and tank anyways, so it’s doubtful they even keep Porzingis or Simmons long term in any hypothetical trade.
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 09:34 AM
'grow a sack' is where were at then intellectually huh? you seem like a really cool guy, i imagine that is the type of sentiment a lot of really interesting, intelligent men who are fundamentally happy and fulfilled in their lives find themselves expressing to strangers on the internet
ps...did you go to a high school for people with "learning differences"? (honest question, not meant to be funny. yours was one of the most intellectually incoherent response I've seen)
pps... since you consider yourself basketball savvy: do you think there are a lot of yesterdays NBA candidates who were impressed by Mike's grandstanding move, or do you suspect as I do that just maybe it was a move designed to impress the lowest common denomenator of our society (...people like you)?
Bro, you log on and take it serious. You really cannot handle your team being laughed at?
You sound like an absolute bitch right now. “Don’t talk about my team”. Nigga this the NBA forum. Grow a sack.
Mav fan says: “don’t talk about Cuban blowing up a championship team, don’t talk about Roddy B being the most overrated player of all time, don’t talk about Cuban being a shitty owner”.
Naw it was funny last summer with the front office drama in Houston. With the shit going on in Dallas it ain’t so funny now is it?
Mav fan says: “don’t talk about Cuban blowing up a championship team, don’t talk about Roddy B being the most overrated player of all time, don’t talk about Cuban being a shitty owner”. Naw it was funny last summer with the front office drama in Houston. With the shit going on in Dallas it ain’t so funny now is it?
:lmao meltdown
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 09:36 AM
Doesn’t matter who has a better deal, if Dame pulls a Harden and dictates that he’ll only go to Dallas, then they’ll take whatever they can get, the same way Houston accepted that garbage deal from Brooklyn :lmao
They’d only trade Dame if they want to blow it up and tank anyways, so it’s doubtful they even keep Porzingis or Simmons long term in any hypothetical trade.
No man. Not how it works. Dame has 4 years left on his deal. So it’s going to require a haul, not like he has 1 year left and is a rental. He will have multiple teams on his list. Houston’s deal with the Nets, it was an awful deal for them because what if they don’t win? They didn’t win this year because they could not stay healthy. It’s a risk. Because next year they all can leave. It was a stupid deal on their part. You don’t give up unprotected picks like that.
and once again, Dallas doesn’t even have near the picks the Nets had to make a trade for Dame. They don’t. 4 years left on the deal will require a HAUL. For example, if GS wants to make a trade, Wiseman, filler, plus both lottery picks.
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 09:43 AM
:lmao meltdown
You’re on the rag because Cuban is an idiot.
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 10:09 AM
No man. Not how it works.
Says the guy who suggested Lillard for Simmons :lmao
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 10:38 AM
Says the guy who suggested Lillard for Simmons :lmao
No trade of that magnitude is ever one for one. Those would be the centerpieces. If you want to think Dallas has a chance go right ahead. They aren’t competing with Boston, Philly, Knicks, Golden State, New Orleans (no no one wants to play there they just have a lot of assets, Denver, Milwaukee)
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 10:58 AM
No trade of that magnitude is ever one for one. Those would be the centerpieces. If you want to think Dallas has a chance go right ahead. They aren’t competing with Boston, Philly, Knicks, Golden State, New Orleans (no no one wants to play there they just have a lot of assets, Denver, Milwaukee)
Rocketfan inhaling massive amounts of copium :lmao
You sold your superstar for peanuts :lmao
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 11:04 AM
Rocketfan inhaling massive amounts of copium :lmao
You sold your superstar for peanuts :lmao
Naw, peanuts is what you will get for Porzingis. Trading two first round picks with nothing to show for it.
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 11:09 AM
“HAHAHAHA you could never do a Porzingis based trade for Lillard!”
”Oh, Simmons for Lillard? Seems fair!”
:lmao
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 11:11 AM
CROFL. Thinking Porzingis is on the same level as Simmons even without a shot. :lmao
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 11:16 AM
But I guess Porzingis is better that’s why Luka couldn’t get out the first round.
LkrFan
06-28-2021, 11:21 AM
Nobody wants that shit either
:lol
Nobody thought KAJ would leave the Big O for the Lakers.
Nobody thought Shaq would leave a loaded Magic team for the Lakers.
Nobody thought Kwame would be traded for Pau.
Nobody thought Bron would willingly sign with the Lakers.
Nobody thought we'd get AD too.
Read the tea leaves son, and be afraid like Jordan was when he didn't have Scottie by his side. :lol Jordan was a loser without ScottiePERI:lolD
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 11:24 AM
:lol
Nobody thought KAJ would leave the Big O for the Lakers.
Nobody thought Shaq would leave a loaded Magic team for the Lakers.
Nobody thought Kwame would be traded for Pau.
Nobody thought Bron would willingly sign with the Lakers.
Nobody thought we'd get AD too.
Read the tea leaves son, and be afraid like Jordan was when he didn't have Scottie by his side. :lol Jordan was a loser without ScottiePERI:lolD
All that to say the Lakers ain’t got shit to trade either. This dude LkrFan really tried to pull a Joel Osteen pep talk
LkrFan
06-28-2021, 11:28 AM
All that to say the Lakers ain’t got shit to trade either. This dude LkrFan really tried to pull a Joel Osteen pep talk
:lol
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 11:37 AM
CROFL. Thinking Porzingis is on the same level as Simmons even without a shot. :lmao
You flipped James Harden into Kelly Olynyk & a bunch of late 1sts :lmao sit down, son
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 11:42 AM
You flipped James Harden into Kelly Olynyk & a bunch of late 1sts :lmao sit down, son
According to you, Simmons is worse than Porzingis.
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 11:43 AM
But yeah, let’s make a white guy who is still owed 100 million dollars, who is healthy 40-50 games out the season a centerpiece in a trade for Dame Lillard with barely any picks attached. Portland gotta be all over that.
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 11:49 AM
According to you, Simmons is worse than Porzingis.
Porzingis wouldn’t turn down a wide open dunk because he’s scared of being fouled :lmao
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 11:50 AM
But yeah, let’s make a white guy who is still owed 100 million dollars, who is healthy 40-50 games out the season a centerpiece in a trade for Dame Lillard with barely any picks attached. Portland gotta be all over that.
Too bad they don’t have a front office as inept as Houston’s :lmao
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 11:53 AM
The Rockets received Brooklyn’s unprotected first-round picks in 2022, 2024 and 2026and the right to swap first-round selections with the Nets in 2021, 2023, 2025 and 2027.Houston also got Milwaukee’s 2022 first-round pick from Cleveland.
A 38-39 year old Durant
and a 37,38 year old Harden
26-27 are the value picks. That’s a good gamble to take.
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 11:55 AM
I mean for fucks sake they already cannot stay healthy :lol
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 12:46 PM
Oh sorry, Kelly Olynyk and a gamble for Harden :lmao right after taking 2 years to flip CP3 into John Wall :lmao
Robz4000
06-28-2021, 01:28 PM
Mavfan should be taking note here, this will prolly be Luka in a year or two.
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 02:06 PM
Mavfan should be taking note here, this will prolly be Luka in a year or two.
When it happens, you can rest assured they won’t trade Luka away for Joe Harris and a bunch of late firsts :lmao
LkrFan
06-28-2021, 02:35 PM
All that to say the Lakers ain’t got shit to trade either. This dude LkrFan really tried to pull a Joel Osteen pep talk
https://twitter.com/blvckcement/status/1409285029008715781?s=19
:downspin:
LkrFan
06-28-2021, 02:37 PM
Mavfan should be taking note here, this will prolly be Luka in a year or two.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRrEzH3gckWqlAXRcGI-WIbDGfTbCDW9pC9WA&usqp=CAU
:lol
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 02:46 PM
https://twitter.com/blvckcement/status/1409285029008715781?s=19
:downspin:
Y’all traded all the assets for Davis. lol
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 02:48 PM
When it happens, you can rest assured they won’t trade Luka away for Joe Harris and a bunch of late firsts :lmao
Yeah they’ll just trade him for a pair of Nikes. :lmao
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 02:49 PM
Y’all traded all the assets for Davis. lol
:lmao New Orleans front office smarter than Houston’s
LkrFan
06-28-2021, 03:02 PM
Y’all traded all the assets for Davis. lol
We won a chip :lol
Pels missed the playoffs two years in a row, then fired their coach.
Lakers would do that trade again, 7 days a week. :toast
Robz4000
06-28-2021, 03:04 PM
We won a mickey mouse ring :lol
Pels missed the playoffs two years in a row, then fired their coach.
Lakers would do that trade again, 7 days a week. :toast
ftfy
LkrFan
06-28-2021, 03:05 PM
ftfy
:lol
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 03:30 PM
:lmao New Orleans front office smarter than Houston’s
Oh is that why they are about to lose Zion? :lol
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 03:31 PM
We won a chip :lol
Pels missed the playoffs two years in a row, then fired their coach.
Lakers would do that trade again, 7 days a week. :toast
A bubble chip dawg. Davis won’t be healthy the rest of that contract
TD 21
06-28-2021, 03:46 PM
Mavfan should be taking note here, this will prolly be Luka in a year or two.
Them and everyone else not in L.A., New York, Miami and San Francisco.
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 03:49 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRrEzH3gckWqlAXRcGI-WIbDGfTbCDW9pC9WA&usqp=CAU
:lol
Yeah Luka needs to get out soon as he can. Cuban will fail to put enough around him and be begging him to play for 5 mill a season late in his career like he did Dirk.
Robz4000
06-28-2021, 03:52 PM
Them and everyone else not in L.A., New York, Miami and San Francisco.
Gotta wonder when the league will stop trying to be transparent and just move/contract every team not on a coastline.
Spurtacular
06-28-2021, 04:18 PM
first of all, Yeah Simmons’ shot is trash. At least he still has value on defense.
:lol Trading Lillard for the sake of adding a maybe above average defender.
Kim Jong-il
06-28-2021, 04:22 PM
Oh is that why they are about to lose Zion? :lol
He’s not going anywhere yet, also they didn’t trade away AD for a flaming bag of poop :lmao
Michael Jordan.
06-28-2021, 04:28 PM
:lol Trading Lillard for the sake of adding a maybe above average defender.
Porzingis isn’t even that
Ed Helicopter Jones
06-28-2021, 05:08 PM
https://twitter.com/blvckcement/status/1409285029008715781?s=19
:downspin:
It's definitely not the incredible ownership that lures guys to LA, but if I was a fan of the Lakers I certainly wouldn't complain. Nice to be the chosen destination of nearly every young basketball superstar. The only thing the FO there can do is screw it up, because you basically should be the favorites every year. Probably not a bad gig just putting superstar squads together year after year.
LkrFan
06-28-2021, 07:08 PM
It's definitely not the incredible ownership that lures guys to LA, but if I was a fan of the Lakers I certainly wouldn't complain. Nice to be the chosen destination of nearly every young basketball superstar. The only thing the FO there can do is screw it up, because you basically should be the favorites every year. Probably not a bad gig just putting superstar squads together year after year.
Your front office is a beacon of light huh?
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/06/47/04/1732914/4/rawImage.jpg
Even Jim Buss was sober :lol
Ed Helicopter Jones
06-28-2021, 08:37 PM
Your front office is a beacon of light huh?
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/06/47/04/1732914/4/rawImage.jpg
Even Jim Buss was sober :lol
You highlight ownership bit then post a pic of RC. Again, it’s super easy to be a Laker fan, you don’t even have to be able to comprehend anything. Just buy your knockoff jerseys and wander into Disneyland.
tlongII
06-28-2021, 10:38 PM
Non-issue.
Your front office is a beacon of light huh?
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/06/47/04/1732914/4/rawImage.jpg
Even Jim Buss was sober :lol
Your front office sucked Phil Jackson's dick :lol
LkrFan
06-29-2021, 05:22 AM
Your front office sucked Phil Jackson's dick :lol
Just Jeannie tho :lol
Just Jeannie tho :lol
Just the owner :lol
LkrFan
06-29-2021, 01:46 PM
Just the owner :lol
Yeah, that :rollin :lmao :rollin
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