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Spurtacular
06-30-2021, 10:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYi17hmW1pg

Spurtacular
07-04-2021, 02:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa_lxr6RqQg

Spurtacular
07-11-2021, 12:07 AM
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Spurtacular
07-11-2021, 12:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TukhlKziE5s

Spurtacular
07-20-2021, 05:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uAkRVxm5WY

Spurtacular
07-21-2021, 05:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7F6kDpdagI

Spurtacular
07-21-2021, 05:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9imdBIJrF8&ab_channel=ESPNFC

Spurtacular
07-22-2021, 10:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXQ-PDVfxJ0

Spurtacular
07-28-2021, 11:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2NXFGybPmI

FrostKing
07-29-2021, 01:14 AM
:lol They lost

Imagine if England prevailed. Now imagine me rooting for Catholic Italia as English speaker in bar with mostly Brits

Spurtacular
07-29-2021, 02:11 AM
:lol They lost

Imagine if England prevailed. Now imagine me rooting for Catholic Italia as English speaker in bar with mostly Brits

:lol Not saying England doesn't deserve what they got, tbh.

Spurtacular
07-30-2021, 05:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_q-HTXJ2TE

Spurtacular
08-03-2021, 12:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqUhIl53oP8

lefty
08-03-2021, 02:46 PM
I think he’s ready

https://twitter.com/dzfoot_en/status/1422631482670166019

Spurtacular
08-03-2021, 08:05 PM
Interesting plot twist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z2j46momlQ

Spurtacular
08-04-2021, 06:42 PM
Tottenham going to be bottom half of the table without Kane, tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGblXQ_vJmU

Spurtacular
08-04-2021, 08:22 PM
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Spurtacular
08-10-2021, 02:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc5fKE0TnZU

Spurtacular
08-12-2021, 03:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwOef3jp7Ss

Spurtacular
08-13-2021, 03:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jak_KynGKhY&ab_channel=Thogden

pgardn
08-14-2021, 10:09 AM
I think he’s ready

https://twitter.com/dzfoot_en/status/1422631482670166019

Hope Grealish is not. They might be playing the same positions and one of the two can use both feet.
But they are both pretty slow. Both have great skills. Mahrez has a better shot on goal imo.

pgardn
08-14-2021, 10:11 AM
:lol They lost

Imagine if England prevailed. Now imagine me rooting for Catholic Italia as English speaker in bar with mostly Brits

And playing the game the way they did after getting that early goal was shameful.
I am immensely happy they lost after that display of cowardice.

pgardn
08-14-2021, 10:16 AM
Tottenham going to be bottom half of the table without Kane, tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGblXQ_vJmU

This should be interesting.
Because up front they are now very fast but without a player who can hold the ball up and occupy the defense.
Their midfield could be a mess because Ndombele seems like he does not really enjoy his team. And he is the most talented midfielder they have. Young and possible stability for the future but possibly very fragile in the head. Inconsistent, brilliant and then running in mud.

pgardn
08-14-2021, 10:19 AM
Videos from English papers and English talk sites on the BBC or Sky or even the "official" PL sites are often not going to come through.
Youtube is the best bet.

Spurtacular
08-14-2021, 04:04 PM
Looks like Norwich kept left winger Cantwell through the relegation.
I wasn't expecting that; but he must've helped them with the promotion.

Spurtacular
08-14-2021, 04:20 PM
This should be interesting.
Because up front they are now very fast but without a player who can hold the ball up and occupy the defense.
Their midfield could be a mess because Ndombele seems like he does not really enjoy his team. And he is the most talented midfielder they have. Young and possible stability for the future but possibly very fragile in the head. Inconsistent, brilliant and then running in mud.

Their additions may keep them top eight.

lefty
08-14-2021, 11:16 PM
This is pretty cool

And they have a special guest in the audience lol

https://youtu.be/XrD1Jgg1aT8

Spurtacular
08-15-2021, 01:01 AM
This is pretty cool

And they have a special guest in the audience lol

https://youtu.be/XrD1Jgg1aT8

No face diapers :tu
No "social distancing" :tu

lefty
08-15-2021, 12:24 PM
No face diapers :tu
No "social distancing" :tu

They are vaccinated tbh

Nice try tho

pgardn
08-15-2021, 06:08 PM
No face diapers :tu
No "social distancing" :tu

You bring your bs politics in to a soccer discussion and paid for it.
Dont ever talk again about Christen Eriksen.

Spurtacular
08-15-2021, 06:09 PM
They are vaccinated tbh

Nice try tho

Why should that matter if the vaccinated are spreading and supposedly catching it at higher rates?

They're just exposing their bull shit lies as always.

Spurtacular
08-15-2021, 06:10 PM
You bring your bs politics in to a soccer discussion and paid for it.
Dont ever talk again about Christen Eriksen.

Dude took the vaccine and paid the price.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

pgardn
08-15-2021, 06:33 PM
Tottenham victory over MC was much more complete than last year. Nuno has good game plans.
Spurs actually had an effective counter attack the entire game against MC, no sitting back Mourhino style and ABSORBING punishment. "Parking the bus while the attacking team throws Molotov cocktails at it"

Lefty.
Grealish is gonna make taking Mahrez off easy. Mahrez has got to stop going continually to his left. He has to at least try going right so as to convince the opposition he can do it, which he can. Then after beating the defender and closer to the goal back to that righteous left foot. Grealish will fit in to this team if he stays healthy imo. He can play. But Pep always go through his depression spells so players dont know for sure if they will be in the side.

MC fans should not worry. They had a horrible start last year. They will figure it out. Tottenham on the other hand... good win. But it was an effort and good fortune win. That wont come every game.

pgardn
08-15-2021, 06:34 PM
Dude took the vaccine and paid the price.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Thats not what caused his heart attack numbskull.
Just try to stick to soccer. If you cant, you will be shown the fools door just like on the political forum.

Spurtacular
08-15-2021, 10:00 PM
Bergwijn is not a Harry Kane replacement.
Tottenham need to take the W and convince him to stay one more season.

Spurtacular
08-15-2021, 10:00 PM
Thats not what caused his heart attack numbskull.

:lmao The denial

Spurtacular
08-15-2021, 10:01 PM
Just try to stick to soccer. If you cant, you will be shown the fools door just like on the political forum.

This is a soccer matter.
Quit your crying.

Spurtacular
08-15-2021, 10:05 PM
Tottenham victory over MC was much more complete than last year. Nuno has good game plans.
Spurs actually had an effective counter attack the entire game against MC, no sitting back Mourhino style and ABSORBING punishment. "Parking the bus while the attacking team throws Molotov cocktails at it"

Lefty.
Grealish is gonna make taking Mahrez off easy. Mahrez has got to stop going continually to his left. He has to at least try going right so as to convince the opposition he can do it, which he can. Then after beating the defender and closer to the goal back to that righteous left foot. Grealish will fit in to this team if he stays healthy imo. He can play. But Pep always go through his depression spells so players dont know for sure if they will be in the side.

MC fans should not worry. They had a horrible start last year. They will figure it out. Tottenham on the other hand... good win. But it was an effort and good fortune win. That wont come every game.

MC too cocky. Their starting lineup reflected their complacency IMO. They were too busy counting those Kane chickens.

pgardn
08-16-2021, 12:47 PM
Kane is now in training with Spurs.
With the attack up front using Bergwijn missed an easy one but the speed up front was fantastic. Moura was all over the place running like mad. Deli Ali ran over 13 km and had the highest average speed of anyone on the field. And Son was tremendous but he is also weak on the ball. He needs the ball wide and then can go either way towards goal facing his defenders and beat multiple defenders, but if you can put a body on Son, he is easy to handle.
Kane in the team is huge, but it was blatantly apparent they are much faster without him. They will need Kane when other teams feel the speed and start with the really physical play, this is where Kane shines. And as always Kane is horribly valuable in the box for headers on offense AND defense.

Nuno could give the really good teams a rough time when at Wolves. It was the winnable games they were bad at, even with Jota. If Nuno can win a good % of the games against mid level and low level teams Spurs might be fine.
Spurs midfield is still weak. Really using Moura and Deli to play midfield and forward and asking them to run their asses off all game. That wont work for a season.

Spurtacular
08-16-2021, 04:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3tbmCjK-A8&ab_channel=Thogden

Spurtacular
08-20-2021, 03:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEmFWxMyTyY&ab_channel=WeAreTottenhamTV

Spurtacular
08-20-2021, 08:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4F5MP3nf3I&ab_channel=Thogden

GAustex
08-22-2021, 04:58 PM
Pretty sure Lucas did not kneel before kickoff with Wolves

Spurtacular
08-22-2021, 05:51 PM
Pretty sure Lucas did not kneel before kickoff with Wolves

:tu

Spurtacular
08-22-2021, 05:53 PM
Should've been a yellow for simulation on Dele Alli, not a PK confirmation.
Still don't see the point of VAR if it's not going to be used properly.

Spurtacular
08-23-2021, 05:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8UV-Tehg1o&ab_channel=ESPNFC

lefty
08-23-2021, 04:40 PM
Benrahma balling

pgardn
08-23-2021, 09:21 PM
Pretty sure Lucas did not kneel before kickoff with Wolves


:tu

You guys should keep a list.

Now back on subject.

Tottenham looked absolutely pitiful in beating Wolves 1-0.
Harry Kane actually came on, had shot on goal but tried to nutmeg the goalie.

Wolverhampton controlled the ball the entire game in an effort and physical nature far and above Tottenham's halfhearted play after losing to some unknown European team in a useless UEFA competition on Thursday. Hopefully they were just trying to drop out early so they dont have to waste what little depth they have when it comes to more important competitions like the actually league and the FA cup.

Horrible display for Tottenham and very worrisome.

GAustex
08-23-2021, 09:34 PM
Spaniards and Italians don’t kneel either from what I have seen

Spurtacular
08-24-2021, 03:13 AM
You guys should keep a list.

Now back on subject.

Tottenham looked absolutely pitiful in beating Wolves 1-0.
Harry Kane actually came on, had shot on goal but tried to nutmeg the goalie.

Wolverhampton controlled the ball the entire game in an effort and physical nature far and above Tottenham's halfhearted play after losing to some unknown European team in a useless UEFA competition on Thursday. Hopefully they were just trying to drop out early so they dont have to waste what little depth they have when it comes to more important competitions like the actually league and the FA cup.

Horrible display for Tottenham and very worrisome.

Didn't watch the game; but three points on the road was still mission accomplished.
Though that PK call was typical EPL BS.

Tottenham's next two games against Watford and Crystal Palace are very winnable. They could really start the season on the front foot at 4-0-0.

pgardn
08-24-2021, 09:12 AM
Didn't watch the game; but three points on the road was still mission accomplished.
Though that PK call was typical EPL BS.

Tottenham's next two games against Watford and Crystal Palace are very winnable. They could really start the season on the front foot at 4-0-0.

They dont have the midfield imo. And the depth is just not there unless there are signings.
Really the goal for them is top 4. Supposedly their new stadium will bring in big $ so they got kicked upwards in this category. They need to drop out of that silly new European cup they are in, and drop out of the minor English competition. they really cant drop the FA cup, its too popular. They would be far better off just having to manage two competitions with the EPL being the obvious goal. I dont see it unless Nuno is a magician.

I can tell you very clearly they were awful against Wolverhampton. They know it. Sure the W is good. But if the actual games tells us what type of form they are in, thats two games in a row that says awful. I will give credit to Wolverhampton, they overwhelmed Spurs with a better plan and obvious effort. Its soccer. But you cant get away this crap week to week if you are Spurs. Especially with such an obvious lack of depth.

Spurtacular
08-25-2021, 04:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js6TtdwXO54&ab_channel=ESPNFC

Spurtacular
08-26-2021, 04:24 AM
The paid-off media tried to steal Harry Kane for MC. No dice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihsJArnneDs&ab_channel=WeAreTottenhamTV


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH6AHyCLEyU&ab_channel=ESPNFC

Spurtacular
08-28-2021, 07:08 AM
That's a game changer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJhfQp19YyA&ab_channel=ESPNFC

Spurtacular
08-28-2021, 08:43 PM
I said last season that Everton was looking for real. They're not taking any steps back so far.
Though it was funny watching the big argument over who would take the PK.

Spurtacular
08-28-2021, 10:47 PM
That Gallagher guy on Crystal Palace looking like a good addition.

NASpurs
08-29-2021, 12:26 AM
:lol


https://i.redd.it/gzsmbowbo3k71.jpg

Spurtacular
08-29-2021, 04:57 AM
I'm thinking about subscribing to Peacock. I haven't been able to catch much of the action live thus far.

Spurtacular
08-29-2021, 09:55 AM
Three wins and three clean sheets to start Tottenham's campaign for the first time in their history.

Spurtacular
08-30-2021, 04:47 AM
Three wins and three clean sheets to start Tottenham's campaign for the first time in their history.

First time ever Tottenham at the top of the table and Arsenal at the bottom of the table at the seame time.

lefty
08-30-2021, 07:29 AM
:lol



https://i.redd.it/gzsmbowbo3k71.jpg

Not a single minute in the United shirt and Ronaldo has the same number of goals as Arsenal

lefty
08-30-2021, 02:40 PM
:lmao Ozil about to expose Arsenal

https://twitter.com/uber_blogger/status/1432427507010113545?s=21

pgardn
08-30-2021, 06:00 PM
Three wins and three clean sheets to start Tottenham's campaign for the first time in their history.

Tottenham played much better but clearly against a weaker Watford team. Again, lack of depth in the midfield is a problem. I believe Oliver Skipp is just a player to stick in. I will say having two very defensive midfielders, one being Hojbjerg is a big advantage for Dier and Sanchez. One of these two CB should basically be replaced as the season goes on or Tottenham bought a way to expensive backup CB. Deli, Bergwijn, Moura will be dead by the end of the season if they continue to have to run as hard and as much as they do.

Wolves should have at least tied or beaten Manchester United, even though MU played them much better second half than Tottenham. So Wolves domination of Tottenham last week seems more reasonable.

Spurtacular
08-30-2021, 07:35 PM
Tottenham played much better but clearly against a weaker Watford team. Again, lack of depth in the midfield is a problem. I believe Oliver Skipp is just a player to stick in. I will say having two very defensive midfielders, one being Hojbjerg is a big advantage for Dier and Sanchez. One of these two CB should basically be replaced as the season goes on or Tottenham bought a way to expensive backup CB. Deli, Bergwijn, Moura will be dead by the end of the season if they continue to have to run as hard and as much as they do.

Wolves should have at least tied or beaten Manchester United, even though MU played them much better second half than Tottenham. So Wolves domination of Tottenham last week seems more reasonable.

Watford was a disciplined but weak side. The warning signs are there.

Dele Alli did not have a strong impact in the midfield, offensively or defensively from what I saw.

pgardn
08-30-2021, 09:40 PM
Watford was a disciplined but weak side. The warning signs are there.

Dele Alli did not have a strong impact in the midfield, offensively or defensively from what I saw.


He is a very strange type of midfielder.
He cannot dribble the ball for any length of time, he is weak and can get knocked off the ball 1 v 1.
Very good at pinching the ball off other players in their half and then a quick pass to get things started close to goal. he can score some tremendous goals and can be very tricky in front of goal and from behind other players on defense.

You just wont see him with the ball very much, he gets rid of it quickly, and rightly so because he cant maintain possession if marked closely. So lots of games it will look like he is not even on the pitch. I like having these types of midfielders IF they are backed by a good possession man. Tottenham does not have a real go to midfielder. A general. Eriksen was that in his earlier years. He was very good. But he showed decline his last year under Ponch. It was obvious. And he knew he was not going anywhere further with Tottenham if he was in the same role, he needed more around him. At one time, he could run things fine with other decent midfielders. And then he became decent himself.
Lo Celso and or Ndombele were bought to play the role and its not even close to working out.

pgardn
08-30-2021, 09:43 PM
If you really like Tottenham dont get your hopes up.
They started well last season with a far better team.
But they had an absolute destroyer of a manager so it was inevitable it would fail.

Nuno has a huge job to make the top 4, I dont see it.

MC
Chelsea
Liverpool
MU

In that order.

I will put LC, Everton, and I will put bottom rung Wolves (their manager has them playing very hard) better than Tottenham. Possibly West Ham as well.
I hope I am wrong. Arsenal is actually loaded with players, especially young ones, but I have never seen a team so unable to play with each other. Honestly they hide when a teammate with the ball is in trouble, they wont even attempt to show for a teammate if the situation has the possibility of making them look bad. If Arteta leaves and someone can get these freaks together they can still go 5th imo.

Spurtacular
08-30-2021, 09:56 PM
If you really like Tottenham dont get your hopes up.
They started well last season with a far better team.
But they had an absolute destroyer of a manager so it was inevitable it would fail.

Nuno has a huge job to make the top 4, I dont see it.

MC
Chelsea
Liverpool
MU

In that order.

I will put LC, Everton, and I will put bottom rung Wolves (their manager has them playing very hard) better than Tottenham. Possibly West Ham as well.
I hope I am wrong. Arsenal is actually loaded with players, especially young ones, but I have never seen a team so unable to play with each other. Honestly they hide when a teammate with the ball is in trouble, they wont even attempt to show for a teammate if the situation has the possibility of making them look bad. If Arteta leaves and someone can get these freaks together they can still go 5th imo.

I agree; but the games are played for a reason. Tottenham have a reasonable if not great shot at making Champions League, especially if their defense hold up very well.

pgardn
08-31-2021, 02:49 PM
I agree; but the games are played for a reason. Tottenham have a reasonable if not great shot at making Champions League, especially if their defense hold up very well.

Its just my prediction but I will add more to your case:

Their defense is not getting exposed quite as much and they have possibly better CB waiting his turn and like I said they really have two MF playing in front of Sanchez and Dier. Last year it was just Hojbjerg. The real revelation has been Japhet Tanganga. He has been almost too good from what was expected on defense. Im waiting for him to crumble.
Hojbjerg has also been very good. Lloris has not had a lot of shots to defend.

Its the long haul. They must get some more players. They have some really useless players now imo... Winks, Doherty, Davies (edit Davies gone FINALLY), Ndombele (flat out just does not want to play; homesick, get him back to France)

And then how Kane plays... If he wants his value to remain high he must 1. play well 2. not get injured for the millionth time
Because City do want him badly. Hes only got a few years left for high output.

GAustex
08-31-2021, 04:21 PM
That African on the right side is a tough guy and so far pretty good

Spurtacular
09-01-2021, 01:46 AM
That African on the right side is a tough guy and so far pretty good

He can get a little over aggressive though. At some point someone gonna put a move on him at forty yards out and go straight to goal.

pgardn
09-01-2021, 10:13 PM
That African on the right side is a tough guy and so far pretty good

Thats Japhet Tanganga. born in London and English, parents from the Congo.

He is really a central back but they are playing him at RB because that side has just fallen apart.
At the very end of the transfer window Tottenham received a RB from Barcelona (a Brazilian) they call him Royal for 20. So it will be interesting to see how quickly they try to move the Royal one out there as Tanganga is playing out of position but apparently shockingly well. I would not know as I saw him only infrequently before. And in the first three games he has been good on his gambles and actually crossed the ball well. He did a good job on Grealish imo.

Anyways no really big move for a known quality midfielder. There is a guy that played very well with Harry Kane (he gave Kane a number of really good passes with 1 assist) in that silly Euro mess they are in. He is from Spain. And he looks like he has skills, but the change in the way tackles are refereed... you got to be tough on the ball, and he is a little guy. Which does not automatically mean he will get knocked off the ball (Modric was a little guy for Spurs who was impossible to get the ball off of).

And still absolutely no backup for Kane. And we know Kane will get injured if he plays hard. And apparently he says he is all in for Spurs and some sort of trophy this year. Well it better be the FA cup trophy because I would rather Spurs just drop out of the two other tournament competitions. And I can guarantee it wont be the EPL title cup.

The goal has to be a top 4 finish. Let Kane go for some big enough money to bring in ... hell, Spurs will need just about everything but a goalie assuming Lloris can stay young. Son is the only guy they absolutely keep.

GAustex
09-01-2021, 10:37 PM
Yeah Tanganga is the dude has been good in the games I saw.
I can see why he is a defender. He is fast enough though.
Spurs in first is fun. May not last. So what

pgardn
09-11-2021, 10:22 PM
Yeah Tanganga is the dude has been good in the games I saw.
I can see why he is a defender. He is fast enough though.
Spurs in first is fun. May not last. So what

No midfield.
No Son.
Crushed.

Inevitable.
The only hope is Mourhino is no longer coach.
I like Nuno, he put a crap team on the field today, but that’s what happens with zero depth.
Spurs were thoroughly beaten like a division II team.

Spurtacular
09-12-2021, 03:01 AM
He can get a little over aggressive though. At some point someone gonna put a move on him at forty yards out and go straight to goal.

I was underselling it. Those yellows/red cost Tottenham the game.

pgardn
09-12-2021, 09:42 PM
I was underselling it. Those yellows/red cost Tottenham the game.

No it did not.

They were completely out played before and after this.
You need to Watch the games.

They had no business winning that game with 12 players on the field, it was hugely lopsided.
Get this into your head and understand it. NO, midfield. Oliver Skipp and Harry Winks could not play for Brighton. Hell I cant name a team who would use either of these two in the midfield. Dier getting injured really hurt as Jophet playing CB which is his real position was totally over manned and is young and lashed out and getting attacked so often. When the other team is in your third the entire damn game this happens.

You really need peacock because you are not seeing the full story and its obvious. Crystal Palace was by far the better team, it was not even close. You cant just look at a score and look at highlights and think you got it.

pgardn
09-12-2021, 09:44 PM
They dont have the midfield imo. And the depth is just not there unless there are signings.
Really the goal for them is top 4. Supposedly their new stadium will bring in big $ so they got kicked upwards in this category. They need to drop out of that silly new European cup they are in, and drop out of the minor English competition. they really cant drop the FA cup, its too popular. They would be far better off just having to manage two competitions with the EPL being the obvious goal. I dont see it unless Nuno is a magician.

I can tell you very clearly they were awful against Wolverhampton. They know it. Sure the W is good. But if the actual games tells us what type of form they are in, thats two games in a row that says awful. I will give credit to Wolverhampton, they overwhelmed Spurs with a better plan and obvious effort. Its soccer. But you cant get away this crap week to week if you are Spurs. Especially with such an obvious lack of depth.

THIS.

lefty
09-12-2021, 11:51 PM
Nice Tanganga jinx guys :lol

Also : Davies :lol

pgardn
09-13-2021, 10:17 AM
Nice Tanganga jinx guys :lol

Also : Davies :lol

I like his aggressiveness. He is just young and got completely overwhelmed after Dier went out especially. When your team cant hold the ball and the defenders are getting tired, he broke mentally. But Tottenham will keep him. ON the bench for next week.

Davies is absolutely awful. No need to Jinx him. He is not even a EL Championship level player.

GAustex
09-13-2021, 09:24 PM
Tanganga second yellow was a bit weak
Prolly should not give the ref the option sitting on one yellow though

pgardn
09-14-2021, 11:19 AM
Tanganga second yellow was a bit weak
Prolly should not give the ref the option sitting on one yellow though

The first could have been a red, so the next foul was a very hot yellow.
Still like him. He is young and can learn. The Spurs were losers in that match, with or without the red. They were thoroughly dominated. Anyone watching that game could see it.

pgardn
09-19-2021, 10:10 AM
Spurs have put their best offensive team on the field v. Chelsea.

Their most talented homesick French midfielder is supposed to start for the first time this season with Seltzer water from Argentina. If this fails miserably all the can do is wait for the January window to make replacements. Nuno is gonna show himself and Daniel Levy what they have got. Ballsy move.

pgardn
09-19-2021, 07:25 PM
Spurs have put their best offensive team on the field v. Chelsea.

Their most talented homesick French midfielder is supposed to start for the first time this season with Seltzer water from Argentina. If this fails miserably all the can do is wait for the January window to make replacements. Nuno is gonna show himself and Daniel Levy what they have got. Ballsy move.

Tottenham actually showed some life in the loss.
Still no depth once players go of though.
Top 5-8 finish most likely.

Brighton is actually winning games this year after playing well instead of tying or losing them.
Potter, their manager is the guy I think the Spurs really wanted.

lefty
09-19-2021, 07:35 PM
Benrahma has been sensational this season, he is not even s starter on our NT :lol

pgardn
09-20-2021, 10:50 AM
Benrahma has been sensational this season, he is not even s starter on our NT :lol

This stuff happens all the time.
He plays on a team in which he is surrounded by a very good group on West Ham. He fits in. Michail Antonio and Jarood Bowen are both faster and overall better players up front for West Ham. Benrahma is dreadfully slow, but... he has put the ball into the back of the net and made some very good passes. So he fits because who he is surrounded by. Declan Rice and Thomas Soucek in the midfield also make him available to make plays. Michail Antonio is the must play player up front, not Benrahma, he is just a really good fit surrounded by good athletes.
I can see if Benrahma is surrounded by a poorer group, he is not nearly as useful. Behraham sort of reminds me of another player West Ham has that gets time because he has made the most of it even though he is not a 1st team selection in the midfield; this would be Fournals. Also dreadfully slow but puts in good minutes backed by good players.
The two Chezks who start almost every game, Coufals and Soucek, are by far the most critical foreign additions, not Benrahma. If you watched the Euros, these guys are very underrated and damn good. Coufals is very determined and makes some outstandiing outlets to get West Ham started. Soucek is very good and defending and controlling the ball and making big goals, especially last year. He is hell in front of the net at around 6 5"
Lanzini is another guy on West Ham that is probably crap for Argentina because they are loaded, but he is really good for West Ham as a 70' entry when they are a goal down because he comes on against tired legs and can set up some really good passes.

The true stars would be Rice and Antonio. I cant believe they were able to keep Rice. Antonio is a beast. An great athlete who became a soccer player. If you watch West ham consistently you can get the feel for Benrahma on this side. Its a good marriage for player and team.
Remember Left man; Your greatest player on MC is now replaceable by Jack Grealish. It now makes him easier to sit him and sub him. And he, like you, is totally a lefty. Its hard to compare spots on a national team and club team.

dunkman
09-20-2021, 01:00 PM
Chelsea, Liverpool and United with 13 points out of 5 games. Followed by Brighton with 12 and City and Everton with 10, and the Spurs with 9.

pgardn
09-20-2021, 01:56 PM
Left man, Antonio did not even play. Watching the replay now.
He is by far their best forward, not even close. So yeah I fully expect Benrhama to get a big run for this game.

lefty
09-20-2021, 09:05 PM
This stuff happens all the time.
He plays on a team in which he is surrounded by a very good group on West Ham. He fits in. Michail Antonio and Jarood Bowen are both faster and overall better players up front for West Ham. Benrahma is dreadfully slow, but... he has put the ball into the back of the net and made some very good passes. So he fits because who he is surrounded by. Declan Rice and Thomas Soucek in the midfield also make him available to make plays. Michail Antonio is the must play player up front, not Benrahma, he is just a really good fit surrounded by good athletes.
I can see if Benrahma is surrounded by a poorer group, he is not nearly as useful. Behraham sort of reminds me of another player West Ham has that gets time because he has made the most of it even though he is not a 1st team selection in the midfield; this would be Fournals. Also dreadfully slow but puts in good minutes backed by good players.
The two Chezks who start almost every game, Coufals and Soucek, are by far the most critical foreign additions, not Benrahma. If you watched the Euros, these guys are very underrated and damn good. Coufals is very determined and makes some outstandiing outlets to get West Ham started. Soucek is very good and defending and controlling the ball and making big goals, especially last year. He is hell in front of the net at around 6 5"
Lanzini is another guy on West Ham that is probably crap for Argentina because they are loaded, but he is really good for West Ham as a 70' entry when they are a goal down because he comes on against tired legs and can set up some really good passes.

The true stars would be Rice and Antonio. I cant believe they were able to keep Rice. Antonio is a beast. An great athlete who became a soccer player. If you watch West ham consistently you can get the feel for Benrahma on this side. Its a good marriage for player and team.
Remember Left man; Your greatest player on MC is now replaceable by Jack Grealish. It now makes him easier to sit him and sub him. And he, like you, is totally a lefty. Its hard to compare spots on a national team and club team.
The fact that he is not starting on the NT is because he is relatively new and because he actually has competition, not because he doesn’t have Rice or Antonio

pgardn
09-21-2021, 09:24 PM
The fact that he is not starting on the NT is because he is relatively new and because he actually has competition, not because he doesn’t have Rice or Antonio

He started against Man U because Antonio was out.
The goal was deflected big time. But well struck and perfectly set up.
Benrama is still a good spot filler. West Ham fans like him. He is saavy at finding space as well, filling lanes. Useful player.

pgardn
09-26-2021, 10:41 PM
Tottenham crushed by Arsenal first half.
Arsenal then sat back and tried to make the game close and Spurs made some changes that appeared to work.
Also Kane was taken down with a foot in the penalty area and the Gunner goalie made a fantastic save on a Lucas Moura shot that was in, all second half. A couple of the goal as well.

Takeaways:

Dele Ali might be done. He put forth little effort just wandering around. Got subbed for at half. Either they put him out there sick and injured or he has no business being on this team. Let him go wherever. This is not close to a top 10 side based on the first half. There are a few guys they picked up that might work themselves into starters based on the 2nd half, But again, Arsenal was coasting which was sad. Rip up your rivals given the chance. Keep playing hard, no mercy.

lefty
09-26-2021, 11:00 PM
:lol Tottenham

pgardn
09-27-2021, 01:35 PM
Cant give up on Tottenham though.
Just like the NBA spurs, maybe someday.
Or maybe the glory was done getting to the Champions league final and playing Liverpool in one of the worst games I have ever seen. Most boring final ever possibly.

dunkman
10-03-2021, 09:45 PM
Liverpool vs Man City 2:2
United vs Everton 1:1
Chelsea vs Southampton 3:1

dunkman
10-03-2021, 09:51 PM
After 7 games:

1. Chelsea 16
2. Liverpool 15
3. City 14
4. United 14
5. Everton 14

8. Spurs 12

11. Arsenal 10

lefty
10-03-2021, 11:22 PM
Pep and his fucking weird ass lineups and subs smh

Also Mo Salah is out of this world

dunkman
10-04-2021, 12:53 PM
Very exiting game, great pace too.

lefty
10-04-2021, 02:26 PM
Very exiting game, great pace too.
Great game

:lol Pep subbing Sterling in when he has Mahrez and Torres on the bench

dunkman
10-04-2021, 07:32 PM
Great game

:lol Pep subbing Sterling in when he has Mahrez and Torres on the bench

Klopp and Pep seem to favour 4:3:3 formations, Tuchel and Solskjaer use much more complex lineups. Rafa Benítez plays traditional 4:4:1:1. It seems that has been recent advancements in tactics.

lefty
10-04-2021, 10:58 PM
Klopp and Pep seem to favour 4:3:3 formations, Tuchel and Solskjaer use much more complex lineups. Rafa Benítez plays traditional 4:4:1:1. It seems that has been recent advancements in tactics.

yep but Pep’s formations are incredibly flexible, at one point during the game vs Liverpool they were playing 2-4-4 lol, high possession and versatile players allowed that

Tuchel loves using a 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2

pgardn
10-07-2021, 04:00 PM
Chelsea has so much speed up front.
And more waiting on the bench.
I dont think Man U has a chance at making the top 3 unless Sancho emerges as a great player.

And Liverpool has so many more options to score from set play corners now that Matip and Van Dijk are up front. They now are again capable of heading the ball in with a big man instead of Salah or Mane. Crosses are dangerous again.

MC will figure it all out. Look at where they were at this time last season.

lefty
10-07-2021, 07:08 PM
Chelsea has so much speed up front.
And more waiting on the bench.
I dont think Man U has a chance at making the top 3 unless Sancho emerges as a great player.

And Liverpool has so many more options to score from set play corners now that Matip and Van Dijk are up front. They now are again capable of heading the ball in with a big man instead of Salah or Mane. Crosses are dangerous again.

MC will figure it all out. Look at where they were at this time last season.

City better start figuring things out because the competition is better than it was at this point of the season last year
And Torres didn’t play vs Pool, somehow Pep subbed Sterling in instead of Torres or Mahrez

Torres bagged 2 goals vs Italy yesterday btw

pgardn
10-07-2021, 09:19 PM
City better start figuring things out because the competition is better than it was at this point of the season last year
And Torres didn’t play vs Pool, somehow Pep subbed Sterling in instead of Torres or Mahrez

Torres bagged 2 goals vs Italy yesterday btw

There you have it.
Look at the choices they have...
Riches galore.

There was no competition LATER and they crushed the league. There are 38 games, MC have the best depth. They can handle injuries like no other club in the EPL. Pep has the luxury of fiddling around with lineups and he will. So He is by far the easiest manager to criticize.

lefty
10-15-2021, 08:24 AM
oh well

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1448991826128551960

pgardn
10-18-2021, 08:01 PM
oh well

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1448991826128551960

This is definitely more of a position of need.
The EPL might be up for grabs.
Who you got Lefty?

I have...
Manchester City.
Surprise.

Its in vogue to take Chelsea.

lefty
10-19-2021, 09:08 AM
This is definitely more of a position of need.
The EPL might be up for grabs.
Who you got Lefty?

I have...
Manchester City.
Surprise.

Its in vogue to take Chelsea.
Well City are the favorites but Liverpool is looking good tbh

And you can never ignore the possiibility of Guardiola fucking things up by overthinkig , this bald motherfucker thinks he is Gandalf but doesn't even know how to properly use Mahrez

United? lol no

Chelsea is looking good on paper, same team that won the UCL with the addtition of Lukaku, but it was an unexpexted run and I'm wondering how they will manage expectations after winning a European title
And Giroud was a nice veteran to have around
I won't count them out either, but it's gonna be tough

pgardn
10-22-2021, 08:23 PM
Well City are the favorites but Liverpool is looking good tbh

And you can never ignore the possiibility of Guardiola fucking things up by overthinkig , this bald motherfucker thinks he is Gandalf but doesn't even know how to properly use Mahrez

United? lol no

Chelsea is looking good on paper, same team that won the UCL with the addtition of Lukaku, but it was an unexpexted run and I'm wondering how they will manage expectations after winning a European title
And Giroud was a nice veteran to have around
I won't count them out either, but it's gonna be tough

Chelsea have a really good press and can sub guys easily up front.
But they might lose Rudiger in back. He is somewhat of a thug but really good for them.

MU went for ticket sales, shirts by adding Ronaldo. They have no coordinated press so their defense is easy beat. Ronaldo makes it impossible to set up a good pressing D when needed. But they are getting their jollies watching him score in European contests. Long run he will be detrimental to any PL title hopes unless they spend for new players.

Mahrez is so overplayed and just will not go right to keep the defense honest. He is not Mo Salah with the speed to transverse the entire field sideways on his left foot. Liverpool have their CB playing now and the team is calmed and know their positions more clearly. It has helped Salah immensely imo. So much so he might ask to leave which would be a huge mistake for him. The Liverpool system is perfect for him.

Tottenham is in 5th with 5 wins and 3 loses. And they are still lacking two crucial midfield spots. This is a joke that wont last.
Zero depth as well.

I will take City again. For 38 games and talent, no one better than Pep to do the job. Especially if he can keep his mood swings in check.

lefty
10-24-2021, 05:45 PM
United’s next 3 games

- Spurs
- Atalanta (CL)
- Man City

:lol

TDMVPDPOY
10-27-2021, 04:56 AM
newcastle united, to become another powerhouse team with oil money...nothing to see here, EPL from top to bottom is just more entertaining where a shit team can still cause an upset

pgardn
10-28-2021, 07:56 PM
newcastle united, to become another powerhouse team with oil money...nothing to see here, EPL from top to bottom is just more entertaining where a shit team can still cause an upset

The EPL has done a fantastic job in bringing in TV money.
Fulham have a Pakistani billionaire as an owner, He also owns Jacksonville Jaguars in the NFL. So sometimes its not so great.
So dont get to high on Newcastle just yet. But I will say they have fantastic fan support, and they are all for the $ input.

dunkman
11-28-2021, 06:13 PM
Chelsea 30
City 29
Liverpool 28

lefty
12-06-2021, 09:15 PM
:lol crazy game between Everton and Arsenal

Richarlison scores : VAR, offside

Arsenal scores right after

Richarlison ties the game : VAR, offside again :lol

Wonderful strike by Gray , hits the crossbar. unlucky but Richarlison is there fpr the tap in, it counts this time :lol

Stoppage time : amazing strike by Gray, hits the woodwork again but it goes in this time, Everton wins


:lol WTF


https://twitter.com/richarlison97/status/1468013254018490374

pgardn
12-08-2021, 08:29 PM
:lol crazy game between Everton and Arsenal

Richarlison scores : VAR, offside

Arsenal scores right after

Richarlison ties the game : VAR, offside again :lol

Wonderful strike by Gray , hits the crossbar. unlucky but Richarlison is there fpr the tap in, it counts this time :lol

Stoppage time : amazing strike by Gray, hits the woodwork again but it goes in this time, Everton wins


:lol WTF


https://twitter.com/richarlison97/status/1468013254018490374

Watch the Chelsea- West Ham highlights.
Fantastic game.

I have no idea what happened with West Ham's third goal, but the ball appeared to dive after the goalie was in the air.
The damn ball just dropped off a table and into the goal. I cant tell if it was nicked or what happened?

Tottenham may postpone next PL game as it seems that entire part of London has Covid. They may not have enough players or coaches to play.

lefty
12-09-2021, 12:04 AM
Watch the Chelsea- West Ham highlights.
Fantastic game.

I have no idea what happened with West Ham's third goal, but the ball appeared to dive after the goalie was in the air.
The damn ball just dropped off a table and into the goal. I cant tell if it was nicked or what happened?

Tottenham may postpone next PL game as it seems that entire part of London has Covid. They may not have enough players or coaches to play.

yeah saw that , 3rd WH goal was so weird lol

lefty
12-11-2021, 04:59 PM
pgardn Belaili scored this today
Very underrated player and the reason Benrahma isn’t a regular starter on the NT

https://twitter.com/_owurakuampofo/status/1469779281505144841

pgardn
12-12-2021, 11:45 AM
pgardn (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19184) Belaili scored this today
Very underrated player and the reason Benrahma isn’t a regular starter on the NT

https://twitter.com/_owurakuampofo/status/1469779281505144841

That was a wild game. I dont think the Euro teams let their guys loose for this game as the fixtures are VERY congested right now in the EPL.

Benrahma may be starting more games with West Ham through injury. (see article)
Sounds like they see him as a player who can play a variety of positions for them.
Seems he works in well with Bowen and Antonio as these guys both are quite fast and go at the goal hard. I think they can use Benrahma wide or as a really good link up for goal scorers. And he can score as well if he gets space.

https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2021/december/12-december/team-news-benrahma-and-masuaku-start-west-ham-burnley

He works, they need him. Now it really shows. Teams like West Ham
(that are in the race for the fourth spot) often lack quality depth. He normally plays midfield but they are clearly moving him forward in position now. Important part of their total midfield.

Normally you would see MU, Tottenham vying for the spot in the top 4. Not so much this year. Both are in trouble even though they have shown recent decent wins.

Found some more info.
ONe of Moyes assistants absolutely loves the guy. Gave Benrahma a lot of personal time on how to break into the lineup and apparently this assistant sees his multiuse capability in the midfield. He is VERY popular with this team. They dont need him for speed. They need him to know where to be given the opponent and apparently he is VERY good at understanding how he fits in so well.

lefty
12-12-2021, 12:48 PM
That was a wild game. I dont think the Euro teams let their guys loose for this game as the fixtures are VERY congested right now in the EPL.

Benrahma may be starting more games with West Ham through injury. (see article)
Sounds like they see him as a player who can play a variety of positions for them.
Seems he works in well with Bowen and Antonio as these guys both are quite fast and go at the goal hard. I think they can use Benrahma wide or as a really good link up for goal scorers. And he can score as well if he gets space.

https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/2021/december/12-december/team-news-benrahma-and-masuaku-start-west-ham-burnley

He works, they need him. Now it really shows. Teams like West Ham
(that are in the race for the fourth spot) often lack quality depth. He normally plays midfield but they are clearly moving him forward in position now. Important part of their total midfield.

Normally you would see MU, Tottenham vying for the spot in the top 4. Not so much this year. Both are in trouble even though they have shown recent decent wins.

Found some more info.
ONe of Moyes assistants absolutely loves the guy. Gave Benrahma a lot of personal time on how to break into the lineup and apparently this assistant sees his multiuse capability in the midfield. He is VERY popular with this team. They dont need him for speed. They need him to know where to be given the opponent and apparently he is VERY good at understanding how he fits in so well.

Wild game indeed
Although I’m not to keen on some players like Belaili and Bounedjah playing in the Arab Cup before AFCON
Competition wise it’s good because they will be sharp in January, plus they get a taste of playing in Qatar before the WC (hopefully we get out ticket for that tournament) but I’m crossing my fingers they don’t get injured


Very interesting stuff on Benrahma thanks for sharing
He has actually started a few games aslongside Belaili with the NT, but that’s when the coach wanted a more offensive lineup- Belaili on the wing and Bemrahma as a 10 behind the striker

pgardn
12-12-2021, 09:54 PM
Wild game indeed
Although I’m not to keen on some players like Belaili and Bounedjah playing in the Arab Cup before AFCON
Competition wise it’s good because they will be sharp in January, plus they get a taste of playing in Qatar before the WC (hopefully we get out ticket for that tournament) but I’m crossing my fingers they don’t get injured


Very interesting stuff on Benrahma thanks for sharing
He has actually started a few games aslongside Belaili with the NT, but that’s when the coach wanted a more offensive lineup- Belaili on the wing and Bemrahma as a 10 behind the striker

And in turn I hope this gives Qatar some good ideas on how to handle a full load of teams coming and going.
That game appeared packed.

And here in the US in San Antonio Texas we got some very strange commercials about exhibits and the 3 themes for the world along with putting different flags of all the different countries under one of the three themes. All while talking about this very interesting and quite intricate metal sorta of bridge looking structure and what the design was for... not used to that kind of material here.
Did you get that "commercial" and listen to it? I am still trying to figure out what it was all about. I think it was during halftime.

West Ham fans are getting what they always want in their lineups. Goal scoring and open play. They absolutely did NOT expect this group would have them in 4th place though. They are perfectly happy being near the middle of the table (around 10th) while playing watchable games. They score quite frequently and in turn get scored on. So the fans could not be happier. And its good they are happy because thats a big working class bunch of people. They have a large following in London. As big as Arsenal, Tottenham or Chelsea if not bigger. They just dont have as much money to spend on players as any of those clubs, especially Chelsea.

pgardn
12-18-2021, 11:22 AM
Probably going to shut the whole thing down now.
Covid out of hand.

lefty
12-18-2021, 03:08 PM
lol footy streaming subscriptions

pgardn
12-19-2021, 11:38 AM
Both Liverpool and Spurs starting a really strange 11.
Bunch of players are sick.

The fans are being let in without a mask check when told there would be one but appears a small number for a match like this.
England is experiencing 90K cases per day now and Medical facilities are getting overwhelmed again in heavily populated regions.
There are really very few restrictions apparently but because the Spurs have missed 4 EPL games now, the show must go on?

Wacked...

lefty
12-19-2021, 12:31 PM
lol at Dele

But what if he scores the game winner

No red for Kane (no surprise)
No penalty for that foul on Jota

wtf

lefty
12-19-2021, 01:06 PM
I take it back, the ref is not biased he just sucks lol

pgardn
12-19-2021, 01:45 PM
Conte has done one major thing with Spurs.
Made them a true counterattacking side while putting forth effort.
But this only works for so long because they just dont have players who are good enough.

The best player, by far this season, is Son. Today was not his greatest game but this season he is the only reason they can actual attack on the counter. (Well actually it helps to have Kane as he has played a role of coming back into the midfield to start the attack.)

And I have sort of given up trying to understand cards given these days. They are allowing much more physical play this year, they told all the teams this.
As an example: if you are shielding the ball the defender is basically allowed to beat the crap out of you as long as its above the knees. So the player with control has decided to fall on the ball forcing a decision. Then players shielding the ball started overusing this tactic. Now they have also decided if you fall on the ball with your body or hand on it to force a call, the defender can just kick it out from under you or its a handball. I cant keep up with this stuff anymore.

Its not like the above is a new tactic, its just that when they allowed so much more ramming the upper body I cant keep up with what is actually a foul.

pgardn
12-21-2021, 01:22 PM
Probably going to shut the whole thing down now.
Covid out of hand.

Now the EPL says going forward. All the money in this may drive them to put bizzarre lineups on the field (what players will be interesting as Liverpool just played with a weak midfield and Spurs midfielder Hojberg who had played every game an obviously was well rested did not play for the first time) Those we strange lineups. No Virgil? A midfielder I have never even heard of...

So our footy streaming might have actually forced the hand to play. Because the Covid is hitting most of the teams now.
Imo this gives MC a leg up on their lead. Chelsea boss insisted their game be postponed due to players sick but they had to play and dropped 2 points.

pgardn
12-21-2021, 01:24 PM
All these stuffed up holiday schedules bring huge viewing audiences, but how many in the stands will be interesting.

lefty
12-26-2021, 02:18 AM
Ruben’s family is kinda scary tbh

https://twitter.com/rubendias/status/1474712848538513409

lefty
12-26-2021, 11:48 AM
Mahrez’ corner kick deliveries today, damn

lefty
12-28-2021, 09:35 PM
:lol

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1475922839698087936

pgardn
12-30-2021, 09:18 PM
:lol

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1475922839698087936

They wont make anything good this season.
They will try harder but the players he has wont magically get better like with Pep.
Conte will be gone in a couple of years most likely, he just wears players out.
And he will not get the players he wants at Tottenham, he must have been lonely when he signed on.

As far as McBagpipe, he can stay at PSG and whine with the other fakers.

lefty
12-31-2021, 07:21 PM
They wont make anything good this season.
They will try harder but the players he has wont magically get better like with Pep.
Conte will be gone in a couple of years most likely, he just wears players out.
And he will not get the players he wants at Tottenham, he must have been lonely when he signed on.

As far as McBagpipe, he can stay at PSG and whine with the other fakers.

:lol by the way, have you seen the Lukaku shit show?
The ego on him :lol

pgardn
01-01-2022, 01:03 PM
:lol by the way, have you seen the Lukaku shit show?
The ego on him :lol

The coach and Lukaku are not seeing the situation the same way.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/dec/31/tuchel-criticises-lukaku-chelsea-unhappiness

Now that Chelsea has fallen on a bad patch it looks like Thomas T does not take criticism from players.
He manages a bunch of young guys none of which were untouchable as they spread the goals evenly without any obvious stars.
Lukaku thought he was brought in to take center stage... oops...

pgardn
01-01-2022, 01:11 PM
Benrhama is going through an outstanding bit of play for West Ham.
He is helping to keep them alive for the top 4. He fits really well with Bowen (speed) and Antonio (speed and strength)
And he has help with Lanzini to move the ball into the right spots. These 4 together look very capable, but West Ham's defense is depleted.

lefty
01-01-2022, 06:53 PM
Benrhama is going through an outstanding bit of play for West Ham.
He is helping to keep them alive for the top 4. He fits really well with Bowen (speed) and Antonio (speed and strength)
And he has help with Lanzini to move the ball into the right spots. These 4 together look very capable, but West Ham's defense is depleted.

They have good chemistry , but Said must be on his way to join the NT as I’m typing this (afcon)

Lanzini’s goal was fantastic

I feel Bowen is underrated, very smart player

pgardn
01-01-2022, 10:54 PM
They have good chemistry , but Said must be on his way to join the NT as I’m typing this (afcon)

Lanzini’s goal was fantastic

I feel Bowen is underrated, very smart player

Based on West Ham’s schedule I don’t think he will miss as many games as most of the other Afcon players which is a good thing for West Ham.

Bowen is one of those players who came up through the bottom level leagues in England. Kind of amazing but sometimes I get worried they will fall apart when they really are just late bloomers.

Tottenham is awful. I’m waiting for the whole thing to fall apart. Lucky to win against mighty Watford...

lefty
01-05-2022, 12:36 PM
Mendy going to one of England’s most violent prisons, yikes

And apparently a lot of inmates are United supporters

https://twitter.com/norbet/status/1478688568096825346?s=21

pgardn
01-07-2022, 01:50 PM
Son injured for Spurs in the toughest part of the season.
They have a lot of games in hand and are very close to 4th.

Any dreams on 4th will now be properly squashed.

lefty
01-19-2022, 07:19 PM
:wow holy wat, that Leicester- Tottenham game

wow lol

Amuseddaysleeper
01-19-2022, 07:24 PM
:wow holy wat, that Leicester- Tottenham game

wow lol

Insane finish!

lefty
01-19-2022, 07:41 PM
Insane finish!
Spurs winning another one in the very last second. like that CL game at Ajax

pgardn
01-20-2022, 12:44 PM
:wow holy wat, that Leicester- Tottenham game

wow lol

Bergwjin may have just insured he will be staying with Tottenham now that he is healthy.
The enticing 4th place finish is still alive but Im not biting. The Covid has turned the schedule into a laughable mess.
Spurs (5th) have 3 and 4 GAMES IN HAND to both West Ham and Chelsea respectively and the 4th and 3rd place team respectively.

Im still thinking Arsenal in 4th. West Ham just gives up far too many goals which their fans love, but that means they have to keep scoring as well. If Rudiger leaves Chelsea during the transfer window to a German team... Chelsea becomes very vulnerable on defense.

pgardn
01-23-2022, 09:23 PM
Chelsea superior talent tames Tottenham.
Conte gets his first loss in the EPL as Spurs manager.

lefty
01-24-2022, 12:38 AM
Great. dive by Tiago Silva

lefty
02-13-2022, 02:01 PM
:lol Sperms with 2 straight losses at home

pgardn
02-14-2022, 06:42 PM
Davies, Winks, Dougherty, Davidson Sanchez, Sessignon….

All 5 started.

Rhetorical question:
What top 10 teams in the EPL would have ANY ONE of these 5 starting?

Answer: None.

Conte signed on, gripes about level of talent and then starts these 5 players… wtf… ?

The Spurs picked up two decent signings but my God. The players above don’t belong in the EPL. They are awful. I will give Sessignon a pass since he is young and awful. The others are proven awful.

lefty
02-21-2022, 12:04 PM
good win for Spurs at the Etihad, much needed after a their losing streak

Pep overthinking again vs an opponent he struggles to beat; "yep, let's have my top scorer start on the bench, it's a brilliant idea"

pgardn
02-21-2022, 11:02 PM
good win for Spurs at the Etihad, much needed after a their losing streak

Pep overthinking again vs an opponent he struggles to beat; "yep, let's have my top scorer start on the bench, it's a brilliant idea"

The counter attack was vicious.

They can only do this against MC who controlled the ball~ 80% of the game.
And Conte sat the worst of the above listed.
The two new signings along with Sanchez the CB did a really good job. Sanchez handball was the correct call but still very difficult to avoid.
Kane is an incredible long passer on breaks. Pep gonna go after him again…

lefty
02-22-2022, 09:30 AM
The counter attack was vicious.

They can only do this against MC who controlled the ball~ 80% of the game.
And Conte sat the worst of the above listed.
The two new signings along with Sanchez the CB did a really good job. Sanchez handball was the correct call but still very difficult to avoid.
Kane is an incredible long passer on breaks. Pep gonna go after him again…

Spurs' defensive block was really good, well organized

Kane has improved so much as a passer the last few years tbh

And Son is the perfect counter attacking player

Pep definitely want ton have 200% possession but at some point you need the break down the defense, that's why Mahrez didn't start, he had to start another MF player for moooaaaaaar possession
Dumb decision

pgardn
02-22-2022, 01:00 PM
Spurs' defensive block was really good, well organized

Kane has improved so much as a passer the last few years tbh

And Son is the perfect counter attacking player

Pep definitely want ton have 200% possession but at some point you need the break down the defense, that's why Mahrez didn't start, he had to start another MF player for moooaaaaaar possession
Dumb decision

correction on my part: Romero at CB, Sanchez is awful.

Kind of a strange set of incidents for MC while shooting at the Spurs end.

Lloris absolutley gave them a goal by mishandling.
Romero hand ball leading to Mahrez freebie which no one could have stopped.

But then MC hitting the woodwork, barely missing wide and high. And then Lloris making two outstanding saves.
Honestly the game was highlighted by Spurs counterattack and Pep pushed guys way up so it was open. Pep could not possibly gripe about it because the passes to break out were fantastic the entire game. Spurs had multiple runs at goal with few defenders. These are things you dont see in the stats if you just look at shots on goal. The threat of Spurs scoring was there for the entire game. The passing was so good or well intentioned to rally a break. Its quite fantastic to watch a game that good.

But when Tottenham plays a team that are wary, like Wolves, and dont allow for that break... BIG L. the Spurs still have a horrible midfield. There will be very few good shots in front of goal for them once the other team is set well defensively. The only way to crack the safe is to counter break or nick a pass in the other end.

Son is really fast with the ball and coming in from the wing he is deadly scary. Kane is gonna get his wish to be transferred if he keeps up the passing and scoring. Spurs still not a top 4 team but they keep teasing me so its quite infuriating. This is what you get when you root for a 2nd tier team.

lefty
02-24-2022, 12:47 AM
correction on my part: Romero at CB, Sanchez is awful.

Kind of a strange set of incidents for MC while shooting at the Spurs end.

Lloris absolutley gave them a goal by mishandling.
Romero hand ball leading to Mahrez freebie which no one could have stopped.

But then MC hitting the woodwork, barely missing wide and high. And then Lloris making two outstanding saves.
Honestly the game was highlighted by Spurs counterattack and Pep pushed guys way up so it was open. Pep could not possibly gripe about it because the passes to break out were fantastic the entire game. Spurs had multiple runs at goal with few defenders. These are things you dont see in the stats if you just look at shots on goal. The threat of Spurs scoring was there for the entire game. The passing was so good or well intentioned to rally a break. Its quite fantastic to watch a game that good.

But when Tottenham plays a team that are wary, like Wolves, and dont allow for that break... BIG L. the Spurs still have a horrible midfield. There will be very few good shots in front of goal for them once the other team is set well defensively. The only way to crack the safe is to counter break or nick a pass in the other end.

Son is really fast with the ball and coming in from the wing he is deadly scary. Kane is gonna get his wish to be transferred if he keeps up the passing and scoring. Spurs still not a top 4 team but they keep teasing me so its quite infuriating. This is what you get when you root for a 2nd tier team.

:lol Burnley?

pgardn
02-24-2022, 12:13 PM
:lol Burnley?

Played stout defense.
I will keep watching and getting this kind of performance.
What should I do, just switch teams, its impossible, I dont work like that.

The best this team will give me has already past. A horrible game in the Champions league Final.
But what can I do... I actually really like the way Brighton plays so I watch them closely. This will get me nowhere on bragging rights though.

Lefty.

I am a total mess. I stick to my team. All because I merely saw them in England and they were named "Spurs".
I saw West Ham and MC as well but no, SPURS. I root for two SPURS teams... Its a lonely life.

Ok. Back to Rugby this weekend and the 6 Nations. I do love my sports.
You are a good man for understanding.

pgardn
02-28-2022, 05:37 PM
Leeds U was on a terrible streak and the Spurs absolutely pounded them into oblivion.
Watch out below, relegation is now possible for Leeds.

oh forgot to mention...

Harry Kane yet again not only scoring goals but just makes absolutely fantastic long vertical passes. The guy is the best in the EPL in this area. He is quick to see the break and unloads perfectly weighted long passes on the vertical which is very difficult. Some of it has to be luck because the wind etc... cant be determined that well. On the other hand, he has let go of long vertical passes that are just a fraction off and might have landed perfectly given the right conditions. Its amazing stuff. He is fun to watch.

pgardn
03-10-2022, 10:13 PM
Spurs crush an absolutely horrid Everton.

Spurs just allowed Everton to have the ball and then counter attacked relentlessly.
Could have been 8-0. Everton was really never a threat with the ball. Spurs defenders literally ran at them after giving Everton territory to spread the field long to counter attack into.
Spurs were not the slightest bit worried about sending player full bore at Everton players with the ball even at the risk of being totally faked out and giving the Everton players a run.

I have not seen a game this bizarre in a while. Everton finally gave up and retreated to their half of the field letting Spurs have the ball which resulted in the Spurs just passing the ball around till the game ended. Lampard was devastated by that display. Everton loses against every EPL team and championship level team with that display. I cant imagine being an Everton fan after that abomination.

lefty
03-11-2022, 07:24 PM
https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1502344218060201986

pgardn
03-13-2022, 12:07 AM
Ronaldo hat trick! fantastic ability to score all kinds of goals. His trickiest shot was saved when he tried to side foot with good power into the goal but Lloris who seemed to slip which actually helped him save the ball by keeping his position instead of moving wide.
This all being said Ronaldo is not the answer for MU.

MU up 2-1 in the second half and Lindeloff gets up off the bench to replace Ronaldo at about 60 min. I’m thinking that’s the move as Ronaldo has stopped running and is just pointing at other players to move on defense like a coach who walks onto the field like a 12th player. He is done. If you are going to point for teammates to move to shut something down the fckn run yourself how about? Goodbye.

BUT!!

This malaise leads to Spur chances in which they cannot produce until MacGuire own goals yet another good cross by Spurs. Now it’s 2-2. MU NEEDS to score again so they now leave Ronaldo in. So now that Ronaldo has had a good rest he makes a fantastic header above and riding on the back of an opponent on the way down. Super athletic for a 37 yo who really needs to be off for defensive purposes. Cavani when brought on runs around like a mad man pressing as a forward while Ronaldo goes back to walking around. Finally they pull Ronaldo off at 87 m and go on to win on Ronaldo’s 3 goals!

He is a fantastic scorer but the lack of even running on defense is a joke. Just pointing at places while walking…? He plays like a basketball player who stands at the offensive end of the court waiting for his next fantastic dunk.

Anyways he is a circus of a player but needs to go to a team who can actually play without a defensive player because MU cannot for a whole season. I can’t see this MU team making the champions league with this kind of player, they are not good enough. Maybe Ronaldo can get another gig at PSG so he can walk around with Messi and they can still get a CL spot.

pgardn
03-13-2022, 12:23 AM
https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1502344218060201986

This should be interesting.
there are a few Liverpool players who need to be moved possibly including Virgil as he is not the player he once was.
They may need to try some of their younger players and pick up some young promising players possibly building back again.
I could see Klopp going for this. New challenge.

The really interesting EPL quandary is Chelsea because Abhromovich is no longer allowed to party in the free world and has lost too much $
Got rich along with Putin, he now goes down with Putin. I think I read he is one of the oligarchs pretty tight with Putin so no threat of leaving or trying to get rid of Putin. I would like more info on this.

GAustex
04-09-2022, 01:57 PM
Late season surge by Spurs who are on fire

pgardn
04-09-2022, 08:27 PM
Late season surge by Spurs who are on fire

Two players added and start almost immediately and have had a huge effect.

Rodrigo Bentancur and Dejan Kulusveski, midfielder and forward wing midfielder respectively.
Along with the defense getting a later transfer off of injury. This would be Christian Romero.

They actually beat a very in form Aston Villa team away today.
Along with Arsenal injuries, and Manchester United absolutely falling apart, the timing is incredible.
They still have Liverpool and Arsenal to play. But the schedule is doable.
Tottenham has also been lucky with lack of injuries. If Son or Kane go down, its over.
Kane is having an absolutely incredible season without scoring many goals. The Conte system brings him back to the ball where he has unleashed some absolutely incredible passes to Son and Kulusveski. The flick on header to Son was absolute brilliance today. His vertical long ball pass is the best.

Kane is the best passing forward in the world at the moment imo. This part of his game has become so incredibly good with either foot. My fear is some big team with a Mbappe or Haahland see what he has done with Son and swipe him away. Again, Conte has to be given credit utilizing his players properly within a system that works for these players because they are not close to as talented as MU, Arsenal, Liverpool and of course MC. And on defense Kane is a monster on header defense. Very useful player for maybe 3 more years barring injury to his torn up ankles.

*I also wonder once the EPL teams figure out the two winter pickups (mentioned above), can they stay effective?

lefty
04-10-2022, 03:26 PM
:lmao Brentford smashing Chelsea and Westham in b2b matches

The Eriksen effect

dunkman
04-10-2022, 03:53 PM
City vs Liverpool 2:2

So no team could break up on the top of the table. Good result for Liverpool that was visiting, but still City keeps the 1 point advantage.

pgardn
04-10-2022, 09:48 PM
:lmao Brentford smashing Chelsea and Westham in b2b matches

The Eriksen effect

Chelsea got taken apart by Crystal Palace BEFORE the loss to Real Madrid. Crystal Palace and Madrid made them look horrible.
They are all over the place. Maybe the change in ownership to come and contracts has them all turned around.

pgardn
04-10-2022, 09:52 PM
City vs Liverpool 2:2

So no team could break up on the top of the table. Good result for Liverpool that was visiting, but still City keeps the 1 point advantage.

That was a fun game. DeBrunye was fantastic. Salah made some absolutely fantastic passes. He can find players not even in his field of view.
The Sterling offsides goal…? I do not know the rules for which body parts make a player offsides… So many different interpretations…

lefty
04-10-2022, 10:43 PM
That was a fun game. DeBrunye was fantastic. Salah made some absolutely fantastic passes. He can find players not even in his field of view.
The Sterling offsides goal…? I do not know the rules for which body parts make a player offsides… So many different interpretations…
Ah the classic armpit hair offside :lol
they need to update the ruling tbh

lefty
04-20-2022, 08:52 AM
Jota. Diaz and soon Carvalho

Liverpool's board has been doing an amazing job, great business with players that add depth and fit the team like a glove

GAustex
05-16-2022, 07:21 PM
Spurs to champions league unless they loss to the green scrubs and Arsenal beat Everton

pgardn
05-16-2022, 07:54 PM
Spurs to champions league unless they loss to the green scrubs and Arsenal beat Everton

And that can happen.
Tottenham has had some horrendous failures in the past.
But lets hope Tottenham gets in and keeps Harry and Conte. They need buying $ bad as well.
Wingers who can play D and beat someone and cross the damn ball. And a CM... And depth.

They got very lucky with injuries this year AND, dropped out of all the other tournaments fairly early so they could concentrate on EPL games.

lefty
05-17-2022, 05:12 PM
The Saints suck :lol

Liverpool played their B team on the road and still won :lol

pgardn
05-17-2022, 09:41 PM
The Saints suck :lol

Liverpool played their B team on the road and still won :lol

Aston Villa have zero to play for.
This is the time of year you dont want to play a team that has some reason to give a top team trouble.
Like Newcastle last game home in front of huge crowd under new ownership. They are not better than Arsenal but they played twice as hard.
It was an absolutely pitiful effort from Arsenal. They are still wet behind the ears. They have and will get talent. but too young, no leadership.

Spurs fans never feel comfortable with any game. Its their culture, scared to win. Maybe Conte can change it. If, he stays.

GAustex
05-22-2022, 11:30 AM
Spurs to gulp Champions League

lefty
05-22-2022, 02:20 PM
Gerrard shittiing on his former team

Canyonero
05-22-2022, 02:24 PM
Bald fraud got lucky

lefty
05-22-2022, 02:39 PM
Bald fraud got lucky
Still carried Pessi

FrostKing
05-22-2022, 03:15 PM
"Winning EPL is more difficult than UCL"

Settle down Pep

pgardn
05-22-2022, 03:16 PM
Bald fraud got lucky

Lucky 4 out of the last 5 years...

pgardn
05-22-2022, 03:20 PM
"Winning EPL is more difficult than UCL"

Settle down Pep

From the standpoint of luck the UCL is easier simply because it requires fewer games to win.
The Tottenham Hotspurs got to the finals of the UCL... and it was luck. You have to have things go in your favor.
The EPL is indeed a grind in years like this if you actually have a team as good as Klopp's Liverpool chasing you.

pgardn
05-22-2022, 03:23 PM
Tottenham top Four baby!

Now Conte probably leaves.
"I have done all I can do with this type of team and ownership" (He says in his mind)

lefty
05-22-2022, 03:34 PM
"Winning EPL is more difficult than UCL"

Settle down Pep
For an English club it is, less rest between matches because of the league’s calendar

lefty
05-22-2022, 03:36 PM
My niggas Mahrez and Bennacer winning PL and the Scudetto
:cry

pgardn
05-22-2022, 08:59 PM
Son ties Salah for the Golden Boot!

Son has exactly ZERO goals off of penalty kicks.

The Man's Too Big, The Man's Too Strong.
- Dire Straights

lefty
05-22-2022, 09:03 PM
Son ties Salah for the Golden Boot!

Son has exactly ZERO goals off of penalty kicks.

The Man's Too Big, The Man's Too Strong.
- Dire Straights
Time to move to a bigger club tbh

pgardn
05-22-2022, 09:04 PM
My niggas Mahrez and Bennacer winning PL and the Scudetto
:cry

Goals Ass kisses

Bowen 12 10
Antonio 10 8
behnrama 8 6


Quite a trio for the Hammers.
And the rest of the League are all after Declan Rice.

pgardn
05-22-2022, 09:07 PM
Time to move to a bigger club tbh

He is good enough to move but he wont. Contract up in 2025 and he is 29. He will remain a Spur.
However if Conte were to leave it could be that both Kane and Son might ask for some sort of release but Levy would never let Son go.

pgardn
05-22-2022, 09:12 PM
My niggas Mahrez and Bennacer winning PL and the Scudetto
:cry

Mahrez with EPL titles playing a major role for two different teams.

FrostKing
05-22-2022, 10:40 PM
From the standpoint of luck the UCL is easier simply because it requires fewer games to win.
The Tottenham Hotspurs got to the finals of the UCL... and it was luck. You have to have things go in your favor.
The EPL is indeed a grind in years like this if you actually have a team as good as Klopp's Liverpool chasing you.
Classic Pep living in the moment. He'll say something different after *maybe* winning UCL.

Brits have lost the plot with so many trophies.

What is your opinion of the new UCL changes coming?

pgardn
05-22-2022, 11:00 PM
Classic Pep living in the moment. He'll say something different after *maybe* winning UCL.

Brits have lost the plot with so many trophies.

What is your opinion of the new UCL changes coming?

Honestly I don’t know.
I do know that these changes will have unintended consequences but I can’t quite put my mind right on what is most likely.
I do know they don’t need more games. But apparently they have tried to schedule some earlier. I also would like to see form at the time in a team’s own league rewarded. Some teams just disregard their league and go all in on the CL because they have screwed up in their own league.

In the long run it does not seem to matter as the usual suspects are in the finals and win the final. And that’s OK with me. The tradition of the big clubs is still appealing. Even though I don’t root for one.

I like the FA cup for the English league but the other tournament is useless. The FA cup is cool because in the early stages it involves very tiny clubs and gives them a chance to get to eventually play the bigger clubs.

lefty
05-28-2022, 11:02 AM
Honestly I don’t know.
I do know that these changes will have unintended consequences but I can’t quite put my mind right on what is most likely.
I do know they don’t need more games. But apparently they have tried to schedule some earlier. I also would like to see form at the time in a team’s own league rewarded. Some teams just disregard their league and go all in on the CL because they have screwed up in their own league.

In the long run it does not seem to matter as the usual suspects are in the finals and win the final. And that’s OK with me. The tradition of the big clubs is still appealing. Even though I don’t root for one.

I like the FA cup for the English league but the other tournament is useless. The FA cup is cool because in the early stages it involves very tiny clubs and gives them a chance to get to eventually play the bigger clubs.

Perisic to the Spurs is done, great addition for your boys

FrostKing
05-28-2022, 04:34 PM
From the standpoint of luck the UCL is easier simply because it requires fewer games to win.
The Tottenham Hotspurs got to the finals of the UCL... and it was luck. You have to have things go in your favor.
The EPL is indeed a grind in years like this if you actually have a team as good as Klopp's Liverpool chasing you.
When these Liverpool players are done and old. They will have nightmares over today, not dropping points in some domestic match on a random weekend.

UCL or nothing

lefty
06-01-2022, 05:10 PM
Mané has confirmed he is leaving Liverpool this summer
Bayern is interested

Salah wants to get paid ir he’s leaving
Even if be does leave, he wants to stay in the EPL

Interesting developments