Game Blog - Spurs vs Suns

[Kori Ellis]

Yes, I know that I'm starting it early but I have to leave the house in a few minutes.

Spurs by 11.

[usckk]

Spurs lose by 7.

[mookie2001]

usuckk

[usckk]

Hehe.

[Manu20]

Go Spurs!

http://www.pointedmagazine.com/nuggets%20nick%20van%20exel%20tells%20fans%20about %20his%20shot.jpg

[Manu20]

Spurs vs Suns
November 19, 2005 | SBC Center

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/gameday_051119.html

Game Plotlines
by Greg Ruder
The Spurs are back at home tonight to host the Phoenix Suns in the SBC Center at 7:30pm.

The Spurs come into the game sporting a 7-2 record on the season and remain undefeated at home, their last game coming at home on Thursday night against the Houston Rockets. Their 7-2 record ties them for the best record in the Western Conference with the surprising Los Angeles Clippers. Only Detroit has a better record in the entire NBA, improving to 8-0 last night with a win over the Rockets.

The Suns enter tonight's match-up with a 4-4 record. The Suns posted the best record in the league last year, putting up a 62-20 record. Few are surprised at the slow start they have had early this season, as they lost their leading scorer and second leading rebounder from last season, Amare Stoudemire, to knee surgery late in the pre-season. He will be out at least until the All-Star Break. However, the Spurs don't expect the Suns to roll over and hand them an easy win.

"There are still some of the same threats like Steve Nash and Shawn Marion," said Spurs shooting guard Manu Ginobili. "Of course they are missing Amare, but they are still a great team and doing well.

"They're very dangerous. They're confident in their system. (Stoudemire) is a big part of what they do...rebounding, shot blocking, running the fast break, and running the pick and roll with Steve Nash. But there are many cases where teams without their best player get a lot more from other guys."

The Suns have moved Kurt Thomas into the starting center position to start the season. He and Brian Grant split most of the center duties. Thomas was acquired in a trade with the New York Knicks in the off-season, and so far is averaging 9.4ppg and 5.9rpg.

Though they are without one of their biggest scoring threats, the Suns once again lead the league this season in scoring, putting up an average of 106.75ppg. The Suns starting point guard and last season's league MVP, Steve Nash, is currently averaging 18.1ppg and 11.6apg. His assists-per-game average leads the league by two assists per game. Second on the list is T.J. Ford of Milwaukee, with 9.6apg.

"Any team that's run by Steve Nash is going to be a heck of a team," said Spurs Head Coach Gregg Popovich. "Whoever is playing with him, he's going to make them better, and this happens to be a talented group he's got with him. They don't have Amare, and that makes it tougher on them, but they have a lot of great players there that are doing a good job and picking up some of the slack."

The last time these two teams met was in the Western Conference Finals last season where the Spurs knocked the Suns out in five games to move on to the NBA Finals.

Stuff To Know
Spurs - The San Antonio Spurs' Hall-of-Famer George "Iceman" Gervin was originally selected by the Phoenix Suns with the 40th overall pick in the 1974 NBA Draft. His contract was sold to the Spurs on January 30, 1974.

Suns - The Phoenix Suns handed the Spurs their worst loss in franchise history, beating the Spurs by 46 points (137-91) on April 15, 1989.

[lilmads]

Go Spurs Goooo!:)

[SirChaz]

Go Suns!


:fro

[SAtown]

Go Suns!


:fro

Too bad the real "SirChaz" doesn't think so. Ginoooooooooooobli!!!

[NZHayden]

go spurs

[SirChaz]

Too bad the real "SirChaz" doesn't think so. Ginoooooooooooobli!!!


PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN ON TV!

[Vashner]

Nash sucks....
I think he washes his hair only once a year. There is enough oil in it to power a small city for months.

[NashtoAmare]

ummm...I wouldn't be talking Manu's hair isin't any better...


Go Suns!

[bendmz]

Suns : 86
Spurs : 94

[loveforthegame]

Is Finley available tonight? He said he wanted to play and practiced yesterday. They were waiting to see how he felt this morning but I don't see anything online either way.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Too bad the real "SirChaz" doesn't think so. Ginoooooooooooobli!!!


dude- I Love your signature quote.

[ducks]

Kick Ass Time

[ObiwanGinobili]

Is Finley available tonight? He said he wanted to play and practiced yesterday. They were waiting to see how he felt this morning but I don't see anything online either way.

he was warming up .... so maybe.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Damn game! START ALREADY!

[Tek_XX]

ugh Steve Nashs hair is nasty.

[bendmz]

The Parker Show begins.......

[bendmz]

them boys going to wear Thomas out

[Tek_XX]

Spurs starting slow

[spursupporter]

omg. parker please make your FT!!!

[Tek_XX]

Nice block timmy!!

[bendmz]

Finley's back !!!!!

[ducks]

go finely

[spursupporter]

Finley is gonna score 20pts tonight!

[ObiwanGinobili]

i love duncan's blocking skillz. thast some sick shit.

[ducks]

5:50 SA - M. Finley makes a 23-foot jumper from the right wing. Assist: T. Parker

[ducks]

thomas has 3 fouls already

[Tek_XX]

Spurs start sucking again.

[Manu20]

End of the First quarter spurs down by 1.
25-24

[bendmz]

Manuuuuuuuuuu

[spursupporter]

timmy is causing all those big guys to foul trouble.

[loveforthegame]

Yahoo is going goofy on me. Score/lineup? Thanks.

[bendmz]

Horry from out of nowhere........ BLOCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[boutons]

I'll give him that shot every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

[boutons]

Robert with tomahawk block on Steve.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

its a close game and they don't even have Stoudamire!! What the fuck??

[timvp]

Someone please tell Rasho to stop shooting.

[spursupporter]

rasho can only do slam dunk to score!

[bendmz]

Just Too Many Danm Fouls !!!!!!!!

[Manu20]

5:51 left in the 2nd quarter, spurs down by 1.
35-34

[NASHville]

Have to keep it close.

[bendmz]

Oberto !!!!!

[bendmz]

need to slow them down or the Spurs need to speed up

[Manu20]

3:57 left in the 2nd quarter suns lead 43-39. Spurs take a full timout.

[timvp]

Fire Chip Engelland.

[orhe]

haha man TP come on make those throws!

[Tek_XX]

Spurs look so ragged right now. Down by 9

[spursupporter]

spurs going to have 1st homecourt loss this season

[Tek_XX]

jESUS STEPNASKI CHRIST, SPURS AND THERE FREE THROWS

[bendmz]

can't anyone make a damn free throw !!!!!!

[Dre_7]

jESUS STEPNASKI CHRIST, SPURS AND THERE FREE THROWS

Actually, its their free throws, not there :lol

[carina_gino20]

Spurs are 8/18 in FTs.. :bang

[bendmz]

Beno needs to go home....

[Manu20]

Half Time Suns lead 53-47.

[Tek_XX]

Actually, its their free throws, not there :lol

Why do you feel the need to be a little bitch, Ms. Grammar police?

[Dre_7]

How does Fin look?

[Dre_7]

Why do you feel the need to be a little bitch, Ms. Grammar police?

Wow! I am sorry. Didnt mean to joke around. My bad!

[Budkin]

Time for the Pop halftime speech! :angel

[loveforthegame]

Spurs need to make there ft's and get on the boards. Suns are getting too many second chances.

I also wouldn't mind seeing Finley get a few more shots. 2-3, you'd think he'd have taken a shot or two more in the first half.

[timvp]

Damn, Barbosa is hurt. Manu fell into his knee at the end of the half.

He is still down.

:(

[Dre_7]

Is Nazr not playing? I dont see him on the yahoo sports play by play thing.

[Manu20]

Is Nazr not playing? I dont see him on the yahoo sports play by play thing.
He did not play in the First half. Maybe he will get some minutes in the 2nd half.

[NASHville]

That chick was hot!

[timvp]

Is Nazr not playing? I dont see him on the yahoo sports play by play thing.

Do I need to bump my thread?

:smokin

[bendmz]

where's the DEFENSE ?

[boutons]

Spurs miss 10 FTs in first half, 44% FTs is keeping Spurs from staying much closer.
20% 1-5 3Gs.

Suns defense is bothering Spurs offense, esp the fronting and doubling of Tim.

[NashtoAmare]

Barbosa is hurt?????

[Tek_XX]

Here's a theory...Nazr sucks ass

[Dre_7]

He did not play in the First half. Maybe he will get some minutes in the 2nd half.

Oh ok, so he s suited up, just hasnt played. I dont get to see many games during the early season here.

Its bugging me. Nazr needs more minutes! :pctoss

[Manu20]

Is Nazr not playing? I dont see him on the yahoo sports play by play thing


People call timvp crazy for thinking the Spurs will do all it takes to lower Nazr's market value, but it was evident during game one of the season.

Rasho started, which wasn't a surprise, but Nazr didn't see the court until the third quarter. When he did get into the game, Pop was all over him the entire game. He got into his face a couple times and even pulled him from the game after a slow rotation by Tim Duncan led to a score. It didn't matter that Duncan was at fault, Nazr got the lashing from Pop.

This is going to be a looooong season for Nazr. Rasho and Oberto will be given every opportunity to win the starting center spot. Nazr will be yanked in and out of games. The San Antonio media won't hesitate to drop rumors of the Spurs being angry with Nazr's progression. As we've already seen, Nazr's family isn't off limits.

All in the name of the Almighty Dollah.

It was written.

[Dre_7]

Here's a theory...Nazr sucks ass

And Rasho doesnt?

[Solid D]

The Suns may be playing without a center, but their length and quickness at the 2, 3, and 4 spots are killing the Spurs. Diaw and Barbosa are taking it strong off the dribble and their length is an advantage. Beno did nothing for the Spurs and Finley did okay at first but his horrible pass that led to a fast break seemed to opened the floodgates.

TP was great on his penetrations but the Spurs are really off on their outside shooting.

PHX looks like Steve Nash and 4 greyhounds.

[Tek_XX]

And Rasho doesnt?

Your mom does.

[bendmz]

Rasho's a wimp.....put Narz in

[Solid D]

At the end of the half, Raja Bell elbowed Manu in the jaw and as Manu reacted and fell in the lane, he fell into Barbosa's left knee. Barbosa sat on the floor with the trainer for a while and then limped off to the locker room at halftime.

[Manu20]

Free him Pop!
http://www.nba.com/media/act_nazr_mohammed.jpg

[Tek_XX]

Nazr's a soft pumpfaking wimp.

[bendmz]

Beno hasn't recovered from the playoffs

[Dre_7]

Your mom does.

:lol Now that one is VERY original. Props.



You must being mad that the Spurs are losing. I am sorry for upsetting you more.

[Tek_XX]

Wow that's some good defense by Ginobili on Barbosa

[boutons]

Manu repeats on Leandro his accident on Dirk in 03 playoffs.

[Tek_XX]

:lol Now that one is VERY original. Props.



You must being mad that the Spurs are losing. I am sorry for upsetting you more.

Don't be ashamed of your mom, she's a hard worker.

[bendmz]

Nazr has been more productive in the paint than Rasho could ever dream of being..

[Solid D]

Barbosa, sprained Medial Collateral. Done for the night.

[Dre_7]

Nazr's a soft pumpfaking wimp.

Wait a minute!!

Is Tek_XX angels second handle???

[Dre_7]

Don't be ashamed of your mom, she's a hard worker.

I have never seen someone get that upset over me asking if Rasho sucks or not.

Sorry angel.

[bendmz]

4 on Thomas

[Dre_7]

Its already the second half? Wow, that time flew.

[bendmz]

Suns could be a power house if they had an inside game

[Manu20]

Spurs came out strong only down by 1. 53-54

[timvp]

Nazr sighting.

[timvp]

Is Manu scared of Raja Bell?

What's with all the jumpers?

[NASHville]

damn it.

[bendmz]

what a fu....... shot

[Tek_XX]

Wow Manu is so clever with the of the glass pass

[Tek_XX]

Wow some of these Spurs don't have a clue sometimes

[spursupporter]

the game is so close....

[timvp]

Pop better pull Nazr.

He's playing too well.

:hat

[bendmz]

Big Shot Bob

[carina_gino20]

horry!

[bendmz]

Narz's The MAN !!!!!!!!!!

[mattyc]

Rob Horry as the clock ticks down. No suprises.

[ducks]

:00.0 SA - M. Finley misses a 33-foot three-pointer from near midcourt
:02.9 SA - B. Udrih steals the ball from E. House
yeah beno

[Tek_XX]

Is this the best game the suns have played this year?

[Manu20]

Nazr 8 points in about 8 minutes! He wants his starting job back.

[bendmz]

need to keep the Suns under 90

[Dre_7]

Nazr 8 points in about 8 minutes! He wants his starting job back.

Heres a theory: Nazr sucks ass! :lol

[bendmz]

how many lob passes does it take to wake up the Spurs?

[Tek_XX]

Dre why do you think Nazr sucks ass, he's having a pretty good game.

[Dre_7]

Dre why do you think Nazr sucks ass, he's having a pretty good game.

I am a huge Nazr fan. Its called sarcsm. I was quoting some Rasho lover from earlier in this thread.

[Tek_XX]

I am a huge Nazr fan. Its called sarcsm. I was quoting some Rasho lover from earlier in this thread.

Well don't let it happen again, Nazr is perfect in every way. :angel

[bendmz]

Thomas is OUT OF HERE !!!!!!

[Tek_XX]

Apparently in the NBA it's impossible for you to trip of your own feet, someone has to foul you.

[bendmz]

Damn refs gonna affect the outcome of this game....

[Manu20]

The Refs Suck!!!!!

[Tek_XX]

The refs are waving it off and it didn't go in. We've got some bright ones tonight.

[Tek_XX]

Horry really needs to stick with what he's good at, slashing, behind the back dribbling doens't work for him usually.

[clooneyschick04]

These refs are unbelievable!

[bendmz]

must be related to Stern

[Horry For 3!]

These refs fucking lick balls

[Dre_7]

Now what happened?

[Mavs<Spurs]

What was that?

Another blown call?

That's just wrong.

Parker was not out of bounds when he hit the ball, besides he was pushed out when he went out anyway.
:fro

[TDMVPDPOY]

why are we lettin the suns get close to us, wtf is this defense we play

[bendmz]

there goes my Bookie money

[TDMVPDPOY]

we cant even beat an amareless team. this fuckn sucks, we got no excuse if we lose to a shitz team like the sons

[Manu20]

Parker with the clutch shot!!!!!

[bendmz]

Play Some Damn Defense !!!!!

[clooneyschick04]

Parker!!!!!! Timeout Suns!

[Manu20]

Spurs lead 94-91 with 35 seconds to go.
Suns ball.

[Dre_7]

we cant even beat an amareless team. this fuckn sucks, we got no excuse if we lose to a shitz team like the sons

Its an 82 game season. Regardless of what happens tonight (a win I hope) I am not too worried.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Manu and Tim missing lots of shots they would normally make.

Bad pass by Tim.

Tony has to come to the rescue.

Tony has clearly been our best player tonight.

Tight game against Steve Nash. Dangerous.

[smeagol]

Tony is clutch (Manu is not)

[bendmz]

damn good stop .....

[bendmz]

Deeeeeeeeefense !!!!!!!!

[angel_luv]

Whoosh! =)

[Spurologist]

Tony is clutch (Manu is not)

so is that horry guy

[Mavs<Spurs]

Great defense by Tony Parker.

He shut down Steve Nash when it counted.

[bendmz]

you can wrap this one up.......

[Mavs<Spurs]

Tight!!!

:fro

[bendmz]

Done!!!!!!!

[Manu20]

97-91 Spurs Win!

[TDMVPDPOY]

this was a shit win for us, this shouldve been a blowout win for us, wtf happen :(

[Vashner]

Send greaseball america hater back home!! (Punk Nash hahah)

[boutons]

Whew, another ugly W, lucky that Leandro and Amare were out.

Spurs shoot 40% and win. wow

[Spurologist]

anyone check out the Dallas-Detroit score. Pistons run over by Mavs 119-82

[Tek_XX]

I'm sure everybody has to wash off the grease of Nash's flying hair.

[Solid D]

Any team with Steve Nash on the floor is going to be tough to beat. Suns played a small team but they are young and athletic. With Barbosa out, the matchups swung to favor the Spurs in the 2nd half. Also, Pop putting Nazr on Boris Diaw really cut down on Diaw's drives.

[Mavs<Spurs]

this was a shit win for us, this shouldve been a blowout win for us, wtf happen :(

You know what happened.

We played well in spurts.

Dallas by 37 over Detroit in Dallas after a Detroit win the night before.

I'm telling you that it is tough to get it going on the road after winning a game the previous night no matter who you are or how good you are.

[Tek_XX]

anyone check out the Dallas-Detroit score. Pistons run over by Mavs 119-82

Why not make your first loss a real dozzy.

[ducks]

Whew, another ugly W, lucky that Leandro and Amare were out.

Spurs shoot 40% and win. wow
suns were lucky barry and manu are still hurt and finely first game back

if amare was playing spurs d would have been different along with their o

amare is a star and it would effect how spurs guard on what they do on o
suns went small that is not spurs strength

[Dre_7]

Its called, playing an 82 game season!

Spurs will be fine! Trust me.

[Mavs<Spurs]

Any team with Steve Nash on the floor is going to be tough to beat. Suns played a small team but they are young and athletic. With Barbosa out, the matchups swung to favor the Spurs in the 2nd half. Also, Pop putting Nazr on Boris Diaw really cut down on Diaw's drives.

I agree with that statement Solid D.

[sprrs]

Refs really seemed against us in the fourth

[bendmz]

What, Detroit Lost?

[Mavs<Spurs]

suns were lucky barry and manu are still hurt and finely first game back

if amare was playing spurs d would have been different along with their o

amare is a star and it would effect how spurs guard on what they do on o
suns went small that is not spurs strength


Ducks, don't take this the wrong way or anything, but why do you always call Finley, finely?

I've noticed it dozens of times, so I'm thinking that it is not a typo.

:fro

[Tek_XX]

These refs just need their eyes checked, they made a number of mistakes

[Mavs<Spurs]

Refs really seemed against us in the fourth

Yeah, we got some bad calls. That's true.

[ducks]

because ducks can not spell maybe I should just call him mike

[Tek_XX]

Ducks, don't take this the wrong way or anything, but why do you always call Finley, finely?

I've noticed it dozens of times, so I'm thinking that it is not a typo.

:fro

I'm sure he's just a moron.

[ducks]

I'm sure he's just a moron.

it takes one to know one :lol

[leemajors]

pop should have stuck with the money lineup in 2nd period longer. horry, duncan, manu, parker and bowen. they pushed the lead a bit then he made weird subs and the d disappeared. we still have 2 months of tinkering to go tho... then we can start shutting people down consistently.

[NashtoAmare]

suns were lucky barry and manu are still hurt and finely first game back

and people thought the Suns would make up excues...Finely didn't look hurt to me...Manu looked fine..(it's not my fault Bell can play some D)and Barry come on ..The Spurs already have a very deep bench..

This game was lost by the Suns we really could have won..And just think we only lost by 6(with the chance to take the lead several times)..and we 1.Don't have our best Player Amare 2.Don't have LB who had 14points before half and is now going to be out 2-4weeks 3.Boris Diaw hurt his ankle in this game 4.Kurt Thomas was foulded out in like15min.

The Spurs won fair...but i'm very proud of the Suns..and really i hope for a #1 seat Spurs and a #8 Suns in the 1st round playoffs!!!


Go Suns!!!

[Vashner]

We just went from 3rd to 1st place in Western Conference on the standings :)

[leemajors]

manu was in foul trouble. he got a clean block on marion too, that call was bad. lots of bad calls on both teams this game. spurs coulda shot way better from the line. van exel is a black hole, does he ever pass? we did much better with him on the pine...

[NASHville]

Spurs kicked ass. :oops

[SirChaz]

Suns fought hard but couldn't close the deal.

Freaking floping Ginobili takes out Barbosa. :cuss

[polandprzem]

If I were Suns fan I would also be proud of them.

They did a great job in a back to back against the champs on a road.

[boutons]

"Freaking floping Ginobili takes out Barbosa"

May have been the key "play" in the game.
He was playing great, and fun to watch.
Hope he's not out long.
Let's us know what the docs say.

Almost identical to Manu falling against Dirk's leg in 03 WCF, with similar "key" results.

[Solid D]

Suns fought hard but couldn't close the deal.

Freaking floping Ginobili takes out Barbosa. :cuss

It was a chain reaction actually initiated by Raja Bell. Raja sent a flying elbow to Manu's head and Manu fell to the floor, crashing into Barbosa's left leg.

[NashtoAmare]

oh whatever...That's just Manu's lame excuse to try to get a foul on Bell..mean while Barobosa is lying on the groud in pain and Manu is already have way into the locker room.I was starting to like Manu again...but not anymore..There's talk about Leandro being out longer than Amare!!! but i hope it's just for 2-4weeks.

[JMarkJohns]

..There's talk about Leandro being out longer than Amare!!! but i hope it's just for 2-4weeks.

If this is true, that's the worst a sprain ever... not only that, but I'll hang myself. I love the brazilian and the only delight I had thus far has been the play of Barbosa.

There was a Raja elbow, but if Manu wasn't such a prissy little girl all the time, flopping to taddle on the defenders, then prehaps Barbosa wouldn't be injured and the Suns might be 4-3.

Who knows, but that play just summizes the Suns-v-Spurs matchups. Even when Phoenix wins (or is winning), something will happen where they lose.

Whether it's a meaningless win vs. a Duncan/Manu-less Spurs team or Manu kamikaziin' little Leo's knee.

[NZHayden]

waa waa waa

[spurs=bling]

the game was good. it would have been better if those damn refs wouldn't be calling stupid ass fouls.

[T Park]

And if Ginobili played for the Suns they would worship him like a god.

Susn fans are so damn transparent.

[ALVAREZ6]

Suns suck.

[JMarkJohns]

And if Ginobili played for the Suns they would worship him like a god.

Susn fans are so damn transparent.

And if he did and he fell into Parker's knee on a flop, I'd bet you'd be getting mighty angry.

Spurs fans can be so blind.

and silly, stupid, biased, stuck up... but mostly just blind.

[NZHayden]

Spurs fans can be so blind.and silly, stupid, biased, stuck up... but mostly just blind.

you forgot the odour problems aswell you stupid fool





:lmao you guys know i'm kidding

[ALVAREZ6]

And if he did and he fell into Parker's knee on a flop, I'd bet you'd be getting mighty angry.

Spurs fans can be so blind.

and silly, stupid, biased, stuck up... but mostly just blind.
Spurs>Suns

[mavsfan1000]

Suns suck.

I'm sure the spurs would suck without Duncan. I won't get too worked up with this but the suns not having their best player makes a difference.

[JMarkJohns]

Spurs>Suns

Do you see me saying any different?

Anymore words you dumbasses feel the need to put in my mouth?

If not, perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills, because from what it seems, the lot of you only see words when a post contains more than "Spurs=Champions" or "Spurs Rock"...Ya see the words, but not what they say.

[JMarkJohns]

I'm sure the spurs would suck without Duncan. I won't get too worked up with this but the suns not having their best player makes a difference.

Shhh... That's too close to an excuse and you, being a non-Spurs fan, are too close to a Suns fan for the above to ever be uttered on this here San Antone board!

The only thing we rivals are allowed to speaks is "hail, hail oh mighty Spurs!"

[T Park]

Spurs fans can be so blind.

and silly, stupid, biased, stuck up... but mostly just blind.

just curious.

did you miss Raja the punk Bell's elbow to Ginobili that caused that??

Or maybe later in the game his stupid cheap slap to the face of Robert Horry??

Oh yeah, he was playing "Hard"

[spurs=bling]

who here hates the refs??


i do .

[JMarkJohns]

LMVICTORIOUSAO!!!

Me, about 13 posts ago...

...
There was a Raja elbow...


Me, about 4 posts ago...

...

Anymore words you dumbasses feel the need to put in my mouth?

If not, perhaps you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills, because from what it seems, the lot of you only see words when a post contains more than "Spurs=Champions" or "Spurs Rock"...Ya see the words, but not what they say.


And finally you, just now...

just curious.

did you miss Raja the punk Bell's elbow to Ginobili that caused that??

Just curious, did you read one single thing, or, in anticipation of a potentially pro-Suns post, did you go on the offensive and just started espousing your anti-non-Spurs doctrine of intollerance?

Do tell!

[mavsfan1000]

just curious.

did you miss Raja the punk Bell's elbow to Ginobili that caused that??

Or maybe later in the game his stupid cheap slap to the face of Robert Horry??

Oh yeah, he was playing "Hard"

Oh these comments really piss me off. Disrespecting the suns. What's new T-Park who considers himself a spurs fan.

[NashtoAmare]

just curious.

did you miss Raja the punk Bell's elbow to Ginobili that caused that??

Or maybe later in the game his stupid cheap slap to the face of Robert Horry??

Oh yeah, he was playing "Hard"

AGAIN...Manu floped so he could get the call...although i wouldn't know because the dumb Spurs anouncers payed no attention to the injury..they just went on and on about how great the Spurs were playing...I must have read the score wrong i thought Phoenix was up at halftime!! Let's not talk about cheap shots Manu alone has more than the entire Suns team..


Go Suns!!..

and thanks Manu for hurting another player...

[JMarkJohns]

Oh these comments really piss me off. Disrespecting the suns. What's new T-Park who considers himself a spurs fan.

Never you mind Mr. Park. He doesn't speak for all of Spurdom, just the portions thats dont readin and wrate too goods.

Me's sure his really means nuttin' bys it.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

AGAIN...Manu floped so he could get the call...although i wouldn't know because the dumb Spurs anouncers payed no attention to the injury..they just went on and on about how great the Spurs were playing...I must have read the score wrong i thought Phoenix was up at halftime!! Let's not talk about cheap shots Manu alone has more than the entire Suns team..


Go Suns!!..

and thanks Manu for hurting another player...
are you fucking serious?? http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

[NashtoAmare]

no i'm kidding???

[T Park]

Dont like it?

Get of the board.

Im sick of fans from other teams coming to this board telling us how we are supposed to think.

Classic.

[NashtoAmare]

okay well first off..It's get off the board...and 2nd i was invited to this board by a Spurs Fan...

[mavsfan1000]

Dont like it?

Get of the board.

Im sick of fans from other teams coming to this board telling us how we are supposed to think.

Classic.

What the fuck? This board should be free to anyone of that team. Homerism is hit an ultimate high. Go to spursreport if you want this.

[JMarkJohns]

I don't blame Manu anymore for Barbosa than I do Stackhouse last year for JJ. It was unfortunate. But it's silly to pretend that Manu was falling because of the elbow rather than an attempt to draw a foul or technical. It's what he does. Every freakin' game. It's just a shame he didn't see Barbosa behind him. Had he, perhaps things would have come out different.

I certainly don't think it was intentional... the landing on Barbosa, not the flopping.

And to you Spurs fans who cry about Raja, just about every one of you wanted him as a FA. I can drudge up the posts. Also, you cheer for your own little "defensive anything it takes" kinda scrapper in Bowen. Or, are all those players that accuse Bowen of dirty play making things up while all you righteous Spurs fans are 100% accurate in your identical claims of Bell.

You can dish, but you fellas can't take anything. Excuses, excuses up the wazzu until the same arguments are used against your own players.

Boo freakin' hoo... Raja elbowed Manu!!!! Wait a minute!!! Bowen didn't stick his foot underneath a falling Ray Allen! You're seeing things! OOOOHHHH Woah is us! Raja elbowed Horry!!! Hold your forked tongue, their Vince Carter, Bowen would never intentionally stick his feet under you as you returned to earth after a jumper! That's like saying Karl Malone intentionally cleared space for his jumper with that little jumpkick thing he does. Bowen was just staking claim to an area of the court you'd recently vacated. That's all...

Give me a freakin' break. What a bunch of one-ended fudgepackers.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

no i'm kidding???
Just a thought, did you not see Bell last season through Manu around the court with flagrant foul after another?? What's with all the Bell can play D shit!? Bell wouldn't know D if the motherfucker bit him in the ass!!! Just because he is a Sun now does not mean he gets fucking respect!

and what's with that stupid ass comment? Do you honestly think Manu hurt him on purpose you stupid shit? He exagerated the call, fine! you want to call him a pussy, fine, that's your problem not his, but don't come here and say he did it on purpose? Who the fuck can plan on falling and injuring someone like that?? Don't be an idiot!

[ChumpDumper]

Always gracious in defeat....

[JMarkJohns]

Dont like it?

Get of the board.

Im sick of fans from other teams coming to this board telling us how we are supposed to think.

Classic.

Got a question...

How many of you 17,000 posts have added anything of value to this site?

You're a first class joke.


You remind of a story.

Upon winning his first ring with the Bulls, Joe Klein was spotted by Michael Jordan. He was jumping up and down with tears filling his eyes in celebration over finally winning his ring. Jordan asked him, "What the hell you crying for. I'm still waitin' for my 'thank you'!"

Ya see, Klein may have been able to celebrate in the winning, but contributed nothing to the outcome.

In this story, you're Joe Klein.

You sit there with this air about you as if you've accompished something simply because you pull for the Spurs.

When, in reality, you've done nothing but sit and cheer.

You are, in fact, the very definition of pathetic.

Me thinks your homerism knows no bounds.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I don't blame Manu anymore for Barbosa than I do Stackhouse last year for JJ. It was unfortunate. But it's silly to pretend that Manu was falling because of the elbow rather than an attempt to draw a foul or technical. It's what he does. Every freakin' game. It's just a shame he didn't see Barbosa behind him. Had he, perhaps things would have come out different.

I certainly don't think it was intentional... the landing on Barbosa, not the flopping.

And to you Spurs fans who cry about Raja, just about every one of you wanted him as a FA. I can drudge up the posts. Also, you cheer for your own little "defensive anything it takes" kinda scrapper in Bowen. Or, are all those players that accuse Bowen of dirty play making things up while all you righteous Spurs fans are 100% accurate in your identical claims of Bell.

You can dish, but you fellas can't take anything. Excuses, excuses up the wazzu until the same arguments are used against your own players.

Boo freakin' hoo... Raja elbowed Manu!!!! Wait a minute!!! Bowen didn't stick his foot underneath a falling Ray Allen! You're seeing things! OOOOHHHH Woah is us! Raja elbowed Horry!!! Hold your forked tongue, their Vince Carter, Bowen would never intentionally stick his feet under you as you returned to earth after a jumper! That's like saying Karl Malone intentionally cleared space for his jumper with that little jumpkick thing he does. Bowen was just staking claim to an area of the court you'd recently vacated. That's all...

Give me a freakin' break. What a bunch of one-ended fudgepackers.
Hey jackass, noone is complaining about the foul from Bell on Manu, and it was. I for one, am simply replying to a moron that claimed Manu injured Barbosa on purpose. Oh, and please stop bitching about the flopping this and flopping that, if it fucking works then deal with it, calling Manu a "flopping pussy" is not going to make him own you any less bitch!

[JMarkJohns]

Always gracious in defeat....

You're correct. Sorry to any truly deserving Spurs fans. Congratulations on the win.

Great defense down the stretch. Sure wish D'Antoni could coach.

[JMarkJohns]

Hey jackass, noone is complaining about the foul from Bell on Manu, and it was. I for one, am simply replying to a moron that claimed Manu injured Barbosa on purpose. Oh, and please stop bitching about the flopping this and flopping that, if it fucking works then deal with it, calling Manu a "flopping pussy" is not going to make him own you any less bitch!

Wasn't talking to you. Sorry for the mix up.

My words are directly aimed at Alvarez and T Park unless otherwise noted.

Me being a bitch, doesn't make Manu any less of a flopper.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure wish D'Antoni could coach.He's doing quite well under the circumstances.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Wasn't talking to you. Sorry for the mix up.

My words are directly aimed at Alvarez and T Park unless otherwise noted.

Me being a bitch, doesn't make Manu any less of a flopper.
Manu is a flopper, and a good one at that. You better learn to live with it kid, because bitching about only makes you look like a bitter fool.

[NashtoAmare]

Just a thought, did you not see Bell last season through Manu around the court with flagrant foul after another?? What's with all the Bell can play D shit!? Bell wouldn't know D if the motherfucker bit him in the ass!!! Just because he is a Sun now does not mean he gets fucking respect!

and what's with that stupid ass comment? Do you honestly think Manu hurt him on purpose you stupid shit? He exagerated the call, fine! you want to call him a pussy, fine, that's your problem not his, but don't come here and say he did it on purpose? Who the fuck can plan on falling and injuring someone like that?? Don't be an idiot!

First..Why would i watch a Utah vs. SA game??? Well i'm assuming he can play some D cause he's not known for his Offence..Just like i assume Bowen can play d..Since when do players in Suns uniform get respect??umm last time i looked the Spurs usually get the most! Did i ever say Manu did it on prupose?? Althought it could be a conspuracy..All i said was there is no need for his flopping all over the place...Did i ever call him a pussy??Did i ever say this was even a problem?? Well gosh...I'm sorry i must be an idiot..

[JMarkJohns]

He's doing quite well under the circumstances.

I don't know. He's pulled Jones who was his teams best 3-point shooter (averaged 14 points and 3 made threes per in the first three games). He doesn't play big when they need a rebound.

And it's not just this year.

I don't think he's very good at all. Nash runs everything on the court. D'Antoni stands there, arms crossed watching Nash shoot those horrible 20-foot, hand-in-face fall-away floaters, never once dreaming of calling an actual play.

Those have to be the worst shots ever.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

First..Why would i watch a Utah vs. SA game??? Well i'm assuming he can play some D cause he's not known for his Offence..Just like i assume Bowen can play d..Since when do players in Suns uniform get respect??umm last time i looked the Spurs usually get the most! Did i ever say Manu did it on prupose?? Althought it could be a conspuracy..All i said was there is no need for his flopping all over the place...Did i ever call him a pussy??Did i ever say this was even a problem?? Well gosh...I'm sorry i must be an idiot.. right, and what should I suppose you meant with this??


AGAIN...Manu floped so he could get the call...although i wouldn't know because the dumb Spurs anouncers payed no attention to the injury..they just went on and on about how great the Spurs were playing...I must have read the score wrong i thought Phoenix was up at halftime!! Let's not talk about cheap shots Manu alone has more than the entire Suns team..


Go Suns!!..

and thanks Manu for hurting another player...
What cheap shots are you refering to? huh??

[JMarkJohns]

Manu is a flopper, and a good one at that. You better learn to live with it kid, because bitching about only makes you look like a bitter fool.

Your fellow Spurs turned this thread upside down.

I said there was an elbow. I'm not the one who needs to live with it. I'm fine with it, so long as certain homers realize he is, in fact, flopping.

I think it's a skill. It's aggrevating, but unless it's a blindside flop (like Derek Fisher), I'm good with it.

Bell has started to flop a it more lately, hiimself.

[NashtoAmare]

Did i even say Manu falling on Barbosa was a cheap shot???


umm..okay stop mixing up my words.


Go Suns!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Did i even say Manu falling on Barbosa was a cheap shot???


umm..okay stop mixing up my words.


Go Suns! you're thanking Manu for injuring another player? and you didn't mean he did it on purpose... You're not fooling anyone son, give it up. You said a stupid thing, everyone's done it, now its time to admit it, and move on.

oh and JMarkJohns, don't worry about T Park, he is sort of the resident fool around these parts. The jester sort of speak. Noone pays him any real heed, after all, he's been known to talk out of his ass, and then repent about it.

[JMarkJohns]

You're correct. Sorry to any truly deserving Spurs fans. Congratulations on the win.

Great defense down the stretch. Sure wish D'Antoni could coach.

bump

[JMarkJohns]

...
oh and JMarkJohns, don't worry about T Park, he is sort of the resident fool around these parts. The jester sort of speak. Noone pays him any real heed, after all, he's been known to talk out of his ass, and then repent about it.

That is all

[JMarkJohns]

...
oh and JMarkJohns, don't worry about T Park, he is sort of the resident fool around these parts. The jester sort of speak. Noone pays him any real heed, after all, he's been known to talk out of his ass, and then repent about it.


T Park... meet the underside of the bus which you've just been thrown under! Tee hee!!!!

One question... Could T Park literally talking out of his ass stink any worse than his basketall insight on this board?

It would be a miracle!

[NashtoAmare]

you're thanking Manu for injuring another player? and you didn't mean he did it on purpose... You're not fooling anyone son, give it up. You said a stupid thing, everyone's done it, now its time to admit it, and move on.

oh and JMarkJohns, don't worry about T Park, he is sort of the resident fool around these parts. The jester sort of speak. Noone pays him any real heed, after all, he's been known to talk out of his ass, and then repent about it.

Well..it's no secret Manu hasen't hurt other players..I wasen't trying to fool anyone..And what makes you think i'm a son?? Wow before you call me an idiot and stupid..I'd look at what you've been saying..I have nothing to admit..so like move on!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Well..it's no secret Manu hasen't hurt other players..I wasen't trying to fool anyone..And what makes you think i'm a son?? Wow before you call me an idiot and stupid..I'd look at what you've been saying..I have nothing to admit..so like move on! son, sister, I don't give a fuck. The point is you're implying Manu hurts people on purpose, and that is ludicrous, so man up, or (wo)man up, whatever you think applies and admit you talked out of your ass.

[NashtoAmare]

wow...that made me laugh!

[JMarkJohns]

son, sister, I don't give a fuck. The point is you're implying Manu hurts people on purpose, and that is ludicrous, so man up, or (wo)man up, whatever you think applies and admit you talked out of your ass.

Sarcasm... perhaps it wasn't identifiable, but I'm sure the "thanks Manu" was merely sarcasm.

Three things could have prevented the injury.

1. Raja not swining the elbow
2. Manu not flopping
3. Barbosa not being in rebounding position

It's not one's fault, but the facts remain, Raja 'bowed Manu, Manu flopped into Barbosa's knee, Barbosa's knee decided it couldn't support such weight and was sprained.

That's what I gathered from her statement.

[NashtoAmare]

Thank you..

I'm sorry ManuMaina if i like made you mad...but you took my words way to seriously..

Since when does any Spurs fan even care what Suns fans have to say...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Sarcasm... perhaps it wasn't identifiable, but I'm sure the "thanks Manu" was merely sarcasm.

Three things could have prevented the injury.

1. Raja not swining the elbow
2. Manu not flopping
3. Barbosa not being in rebounding position

It's not one's fault, but the facts remain, Raja 'bowed Manu, Manu flopped into Barbosa's knee, Barbosa's knee decided it couldn't support such weight and was sprained.

That's what I gathered from her statement.
right, and I suppose her implying Manu has more cheap shots than the entire Suns team combined was also sarcasm huh? I have been watching Manu for more than most here, and I can tell you for certain that kid has yet to throw a cheap shot. He does flop, I'm not arguing that, but don't come here and tell us Manu is dirty because that is bullshit.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Thank you..

I'm sorry ManuMaina if i like made you mad...but you took my words way to seriously..

Since when does any Spurs fan even care what Suns fans have to say... it don't matter to me if you're a Suns fan or not, I don't make that disctinction. I like to treat people as intelligent, discerning human beings (with the exception of a few on this forum http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif they know who they are). I wouldn't make sucha big deal if I thought your opinion did not matter.

[JMarkJohns]

Can't comment on cheap shots and to be honest, I haven't read your two's entire transcript either.

I read the first post which drew such ire and figured I'd comment on what I took from it.

From what I've seen, Manu borders on sneaky. Not dirty. That's reserved for Artest and others of his ilk. But he's certainly sneaky and craft, much in the way that Stockton was. His flops have injured people, but it's not intentional. Flying and falling bodies landing on ankles and knees just tend to have that effect.

[NashtoAmare]

it don't matter to me if you're a Suns fan or not, I don't make that disctinction. I like to treat people as intelligent, discerning human beings (with the exception of a few on this forum http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif they know who they are). I wouldn't make sucha big deal if I thought your opinion did not matter.

well you don't treat people intelligent because you called me stupid and an idiot..Go bother someone that cares..please..Sorry again

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Can't comment on cheap shots and to be honest, I haven't read your two's entire transcript either.

I read the first post which drew such ire and figured I'd comment on what I took from it.

From what I've seen, Manu borders on sneaky. Not dirty. That's reserved for Artest and others of his ilk. But he's certainly sneaky and craft, much in the way that Stockton was. His flops have injured people, but it's not intentional. Flying and falling bodies landing on ankles and knees just tend to have that effect.
lets get somethign straight, Manu flops, but most are warranted. you can't tell me you believe Manu is ALWAYS flopping. Most are legitimate fouls, and Manu accentuates them. Nothing wrong with that. Any time someone gets injured because of someone falling on them unintentionally is called an accident.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

well you don't treat people intelligent because you called me stupid and an idiot..Go bother someone that cares..please..Sorry again
oh wait... you didn't catch my sarcasm on that?... Weird... http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

[JMarkJohns]

I never blamed Manu.

He flops on a breeze going by sometimes. I recall the incident in the WCF last year.

But yes, most of the time, there is contact. I won't however say they are fouls, because I'm of the mindset that unless the contact severely hinders or affects the shot or defensive positioning, that it's incidental and should not be deemed a foul.

I, for the large part, like physical players. Not thuggery, but good hard, Detroit Pistons style ball. Especially this year with their offense throwning in 100+ per game.

Nothing wrong with a bump or a push in my book.

[NashtoAmare]

O my gosh...Please stop..I already said i was sorry..

your almost bothering me more than Maunu himself does..

[JMarkJohns]

Serenity NOW!!!

[NashtoAmare]

oh wait... you didn't catch my sarcasm on that?... Weird... http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif


O my gosh...Please stop..I already said i was sorry..

your almost bothering me more than Maunu himself does..

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I never blamed Manu.

He flops on a breeze going by sometimes. I recall the incident in the WCF last year.

But yes, most of the time, there is contact. I won't however say they are fouls, because I'm of the mindset that unless the contact severely hinders or affects the shot or defensive positioning, that it's incidental and should not be deemed a foul.

I, for the large part, like physical players. Not thuggery, but good hard, Detroit Pistons style ball. Especially this year with their offense throwning in 100+ per game.

Nothing wrong with a bump or a push in my book.
Nothing wrong with making sure refs see those bumps or pushes either

[MaNuMaNiAc]

O my gosh...Please stop..I already said i was sorry..

your almost bothering me more than Maunu himself does..
great, because if I'm bothering you half as much as your comments bothered me, you're getting the point. Fine I'll let you be.

[NashtoAmare]

Thank you.

[JMarkJohns]

Nothing wrong with making sure refs see those bumps or pushes either

When they aren't fouls half the time, yeah... I think it's silly. It's smart and I give him credit for the skill, but it's still flopping.

The game has gotten way to watered down with whistles.

Basketball should have some physical play involved.

[smeagol]

Manu, that dirty bastard!

[mavsfan1000]

the spurs are a dirty team. Don't worry. I think the suns will be able to beat other teams that don't flop as much. Manu irritates me also.

[SirChaz]

I am not about to claim for a second that Manu injures anyone on purpose because I think Ginobili is a decent dude and a hell of a basketball player.

However he does endanger other players sometimes with his antics as proven last night.

Bell stuck him arm out there but there is no way Bell's extended arm or elbow threw Manu to the floor. He did that to himself and injured someone in the process.

The loss of the game is not as painful as the loss of Barbosa.

Freaking flopper, I am still pissed.


As for the game I am proud of how the Suns played. The story of the season continues though. The Suns have trouble closing out good teams.

[Vashner]

"Endanger"... who's soft now?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I am not about to claim for a second that Manu injures anyone on purpose because I think Ginobili is a decent dude and a hell of a basketball player.

However he does endanger other players sometimes with his antics as proven last night.

Bell stuck him arm out there but there is no way Bell's extended arm or elbow threw Manu to the floor. He did that to himself and injured someone in the process.

The loss of the game is not as painful as the loss of Barbosa.

Freaking flopper, I am still pissed.


As for the game I am proud of how the Suns played. The story of the season continues though. The Suns have trouble closing out good teams.
I don't get it, first you people complain about the game not being physical enough, and then you're scared Ginobili is going to fall on someone?? Hey genius, IT WAS AN ACCIDENTE!! Get it?? Do you really think that if Manu stopped exaggerating calls no Suns player will ever get injured again sweetheart?

Give it a rest! You lost, and now because of an accident you're prime to lose some more, and you're bitter about it. GO VENT SOMEWHERE ELSE!

[SirChaz]

I don't get it, first you people complain about the game not being physical enough, and then you're scared Ginobili is going to fall on someone?? Hey genius, IT WAS AN ACCIDENTE!! Get it?? Do you really think that if Manu stopped exaggerating calls no Suns player will ever get injured again sweetheart?

Give it a rest! You lost, and now because of an accident you're prime to lose some more, and you're bitter about it. GO VENT SOMEWHERE ELSE!


You people?! Please show me where I said anything of the sort.

I get it that it was an accident that he fell on Barbosa. It wasn't an accident that he fell. Gilobili threw himself to the floor, again.

I am not bitter, I am pissed that Manu injured one of our players with his stupid flopping. If one of our players had flopped himself onto the floor and hurt one of your players by accident you would be pissed too.

As for giving it a rest, I will now if you will.

[5ToolMan]

I am not about to claim for a second that Manu injures anyone on purpose because I think Ginobili is a decent dude and a hell of a basketball player.

However he does endanger other players sometimes with his antics as proven last night.

Bell stuck him arm out there but there is no way Bell's extended arm or elbow threw Manu to the floor. He did that to himself and injured someone in the process.

The loss of the game is not as painful as the loss of Barbosa.

Freaking flopper, I am still pissed.


As for the game I am proud of how the Suns played. The story of the season continues though. The Suns have trouble closing out good teams.

Simply amazing. Bell extends his arm and pops Manu as the first action of the play. That fact is not in question. Manu then falls into Barbosa when he goes down from the contact from Bell, and perhaps maybe he exagerates the contact. And you equate that into Manu's actions endangering other players. What a laugh.

Some Suns fans have reached the level of Sonic fans crying about Manu roughing up James and Fortson on his way to the hole.

[samikeyp]

I am pissed that Manu injured one of our players with his stupid flopping.


I am not about to claim for a second that Manu injures anyone on purpose because I think Ginobili is a decent dude and a hell of a basketball player.

so which one is it.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

You people?! Please show me where I said anything of the sort.

I get it that it was an accident that he fell on Barbosa. It wasn't an accident that he fell. Gilobili threw himself to the floor, again.

I am not bitter, I am pissed that Manu injured one of our players with his stupid flopping. If one of our players had flopped himself onto the floor and hurt one of your players by accident you would be pissed too.

As for giving it a rest, I will now if you will.
IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!!! Let it go! Manu's flopping is beside the point. Flopping is not a crime, and just because it happened to injure one of your players by accident, does not make it one! You're not angry because Manu flopped, you're angry because one of your players got injured in an accident, and you can find no other way of venting than to rag on Manu who was doing a perfectly legal thing!

[SirChaz]

so which one is it.


I don't see where one precludes the other.


Manu threw himself to the ground on contact from Bell and injured Barbosa.

His action was intentional the result was accidental.





and perhaps maybe he exagerates the contact.

That is a laugh. Manu isn't that weak that he is thrown to the floor by an arm extended.

Perhaps maybe he exaggerated. :lol

[samikeyp]

I don't see where one precludes the other

you are implying intent.

[SirChaz]

you are implying intent.


I never implied intent to injure.

I think his actions are dangerous, not malicious.

[JMarkJohns]

To all the mindnumbingly ignorant Spurs fans who allow their own bias to navigate their opinions, please, READ the following.



...Raja elbowed Manu, who attempted to draw a foul by exaggerating the contact and flopping. No, he didn't intentionally try to hurt Barbosa and Barbosa never said he did. Only that his flop was on purpose.

The cause was intentional, the effect an accident.

Exactly.

This is a Suns fans account that was claimed to be exactly right from your fearless unbiased leader.

Get over yourselves.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

To all the mindnumbingly ignorant Spurs fans who allow their own bias to navigate their opinions, please, READ the following.



This is a Suns fans account that was claimed to be exactly right from your fearless unbiased leader.

Get over yourselves.
Idiot post of the day

[JMarkJohns]

Idiot post of the day

To be followed up promtly by the idiot post of the millenium!!!

HOOORRRRRRRAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!

One, Mrs. Ellis didn't think the reason behind it was so idiotic.