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kobyz
07-05-2021, 02:53 PM
Rudy is the perfect match for the direction the team want to go...
Murray and Jakob and 12th for Rudy...
Re-sign DeMar for reasonable price...
With cap space left sign veterans Lowry and Batum...

Lowry/Jones
White/Walker
DeMar/Vassell
Keldon/Batum
Rudy/Eubanks

exstatic
07-05-2021, 03:12 PM
Just..
No.

KDKSpurs24
07-05-2021, 03:25 PM
Just..
No.

Ocotillo
07-05-2021, 03:43 PM
You’re a Jazz fan aren’t you?

KobesAchilles
07-05-2021, 04:01 PM
Today’s NBA is so desperate for a Center that Gobert is considered a max player :lmao
Mark Eaton is laughing in his grave

timtonymanu
07-05-2021, 04:09 PM
Yeah another non shooter is what this team needs

Joseph Kony
07-05-2021, 04:29 PM
Surprised OP hasn't killed himself yet :lol

Biggems
07-05-2021, 04:33 PM
yes, let's ruin our financial future on that albatross.......

BackHome
07-05-2021, 07:00 PM
We got Poodle he is cheaper and does almost the same thing

widowmaker
07-05-2021, 10:36 PM
Id rather the spurs draft kai jones

DeRozan m8
07-05-2021, 11:24 PM
Wow

illusioNtEk
07-06-2021, 08:11 PM
will be to old soon

slick'81
07-06-2021, 08:16 PM
:lmao Not while poodle power is in full effect

cd98
07-06-2021, 11:01 PM
Honestly Jakob can guard on the perimeter and Gobert can’t. Plus Jakob is signed to a bargain contract. All he needs to do is improve as a free throw shooter and he will be excellent and probably the one position I think the Spurs are solid on.

slick'81
07-06-2021, 11:07 PM
Honestly Jakob can guard on the perimeter and Gobert can’t. Plus Jakob is signed to a bargain contract. All he needs to do is improve as a free throw shooter and he will be excellent and probably the one position I think the Spurs are solid on.


A go to move in the post couldnt hurt either. He did unveil that floater in the paint though

kobyz
07-08-2021, 05:35 AM
Honestly Jakob can guard on the perimeter and Gobert can’t. Plus Jakob is signed to a bargain contract. All he needs to do is improve as a free throw shooter and he will be excellent and probably the one position I think the Spurs are solid on.

Man, Jakob is not a starting material!

cd98
07-08-2021, 09:08 AM
Man, Jakob is not a starting material!

What? He'd be the starter on every team in the ECF and WCF except Phoenix. He's easily one of the best centers in the league and that's without a great post game and poor free throw shooting. When you look at the on/off numbers, he's actually the best player on the Spurs. Sure his impact is mostly on the defense, but there is no doubt that teams would love to get their hands on this guy after the season he had. His ability to switch on shooters on the perimeter alone makes him a highly valuable commodity.

BackHome
07-08-2021, 11:03 AM
One thing is for sure Gobert and Poodle will never get it done in the playoffs you can add Simmons to the list with Bigs who have no outside shooting at all. You can’t play good teams with 4 on 5 on the offensive side of the ball and expect to win

look_at_g_shred
07-08-2021, 11:50 AM
Why? Dude plays small. Did you see him against the Clips? He doesn't have the kill mentality. We have enough of those players already.

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-08-2021, 11:54 AM
I agree with the OP. With all of the amazing shooters we have, along with our elite perimeter defense, the last missing piece to a championship is a defensive minded center with limited offensive skills.

Go get him Pop!!

cd98
07-08-2021, 02:16 PM
One thing is for sure Gobert and Poodle will never get it done in the playoffs you can add Simmons to the list with Bigs who have no outside shooting at all. You can’t play good teams with 4 on 5 on the offensive side of the ball and expect to win

Ayton can't shoot, but he can fill the lane and dunk. And he's in the NBA finals and a key contributor. A big doesn't have to be a great offensive player. If the big is a great defensive player and can guard guys on the perimeter and finish as a garbage guy around the rim, that's all they need to do. Jakob is the perfect playoff big because he can block shots in the paint and switch on the perimeter. That means he can't get played off the floor like Lopez or Gobert once teams can scheme those guys into pick and rolls and get them stuck in switches on three point shooting guards. There are only 2-3 centers in the NBA that are the main scorers in the playoffs for their team and you don't have to be that to help your team win a title as is evidenced by the fact that the center on either team in the finals is not the best scorer on their teams and Brook Lopez may not get many minutes because he can't handle switches onto the Suns guards. Jakob would have no problem doing that.

And it isn't 5-4 if Jakob is a roll man and he does that pretty good. He is also a quality passer and screen setter, so he is absolutely not a 5-4 type of player on offense. He is a contributor and he can get even better and you can see he is motivated to do just that. He is one of the bright sides for this San Antonio roster. He already improved as a free throw shooter from the beginning of the season to the end of the season. Expect that to continue. Centers don't have to be 3 point shooters to be effective in the playoffs. It's nice if they can do that, but there are other ways to be effective and he does a good job.

JR3
07-08-2021, 02:58 PM
He got exposed big time in the playoffs. He has no offensive game and playoff performers simply draw a foul or float over the top of him. He is not how you want to spend your money of serious about winning a championship.

kobyz
07-08-2021, 06:10 PM
He got exposed big time in the playoffs. He has no offensive game and playoff performers simply draw a foul or float over the top of him. He is not how you want to spend your money of serious about winning a championship.

He could grow from this, and because of this situation we could get him relative with a reasonable price

Leetonidas
07-08-2021, 06:24 PM
He could grow from this, and because of this situation we could get him relative with a reasonable price

He's not going to "grow" anymore, he's 29 :lol he is what he is at this point. I like Gobert but anyone paying 35 million for a player with no offensive game is already fucked from the get go. What is a reasonable price? You realize he just signed a max extension right? He is going to make 34 million next year. We'd have to gut our entire roster to add a rich man's Jakob Poeltl. No thanks

kobyz
07-08-2021, 07:39 PM
He's not going to "grow" anymore, he's 29 :lol he is what he is at this point. I like Gobert but anyone paying 35 million for a player with no offensive game is already fucked from the get go. What is a reasonable price? You realize he just signed a max extension right? He is going to make 34 million next year. We'd have to gut our entire roster to add a rich man's Jakob Poeltl. No thanks

You undervalue him, you overextend his limitation, you overreact to the Utah Clippers series defeat, they collepse, their coach was not to be shown but it doesn't mean Gubert got exposed... If you have opportunity to bring best defensive player in the league who is also great roll man and a leader without giving nothing special you do it, that the best building block you can bring

Leetonidas
07-08-2021, 07:44 PM
You undervalue him, you overextend his limitation, you overreact to the Utah Clippers series defeat, they collepse, their coach was not to be shown but it doesn't mean Gubert got exposed... If you have opportunity to bring best defensive player in the league who is also great roll man and a leader without giving nothing special you do it, that the best building block you can bring
I'm not overreacting dude, this happens to Gobert literally every playoffs:lol this isn't some new thing with him. I think during the regular season he is a great anchor but in the playoffs he is easily exploitable and can be played off the floor. Clippers started Batum at C and Gobert was rendered useless. You are waaay overvaluing a C making 34 million that can't create anything for himself and is easily played off the court in the playoffs because he cannot guard on the perimeter at all.

Again, he isn't a bad player, but he is in no way worth the contract Utah gave him. And given the Spurs would have to trade half our team for him, how would it even be worth it. Poeltl at 9 million is better value than Gobert at 34 million. He will be 33 years old making 43 million for fucks sake

kobyz
07-08-2021, 10:37 PM
I'm not overreacting dude, this happens to Gobert literally every playoffs:lol this isn't some new thing with him. I think during the regular season he is a great anchor but in the playoffs he is easily exploitable and can be played off the floor. Clippers started Batum at C and Gobert was rendered useless. You are waaay overvaluing a C making 34 million that can't create anything for himself and is easily played off the court in the playoffs because he cannot guard on the perimeter at all.

Again, he isn't a bad player, but he is in no way worth the contract Utah gave him. And given the Spurs would have to trade half our team for him, how would it even be worth it. Poeltl at 9 million is better value than Gobert at 34 million. He will be 33 years old making 43 million for fucks sake

You acting like you think we are some top free agents destiny that we could nit picking which star we can bring... You trying to put Utah failer to past Clippers on Gobert in a very superficial manner, you probably also predict Mann's 40 point game out of nowhere to eliminate them... And look at my trade proposal, we only giving up 2 players and a draft pick, we don't need to match Gobert salary as we under the cap...

ThaBigFundamental21
07-08-2021, 11:43 PM
Rudy is the perfect match for the direction the team want to go...
Murray and Jakob and 12th for Rudy...
Re-sign DeMar for reasonable price...
With cap space left sign veterans Lowry and Batum...

Lowry/Jones
White/Walker
DeMar/Vassell
Keldon/Batum
Rudy/Eubanks

So the Spurs get another big who can't play any semblance of Offense or shoot FT's? Only this one is overpaid...Hard pass.

ThaBigFundamental21
07-08-2021, 11:47 PM
You acting like you think we are some top free agents destiny that we could nit picking which star we can bring... You trying to put Utah failer to past Clippers on Gobert in a very superficial manner, you probably also predict Mann's 40 point game out of nowhere to eliminate them... And look at my trade proposal, we only giving up 2 players and a draft pick, we don't need to match Gobert salary as we under the cap...

What is the point? The Spurs don't win any more games with Gobert...But pay 9 times the money Jakob is getting. And your thought process is, "Nobody wants to play here, so let's overpay to be mediocre." What are you on?

ThaBigFundamental21
07-08-2021, 11:53 PM
I'm not overreacting dude, this happens to Gobert literally every playoffs:lol this isn't some new thing with him. I think during the regular season he is a great anchor but in the playoffs he is easily exploitable and can be played off the floor. Clippers started Batum at C and Gobert was rendered useless. You are waaay overvaluing a C making 34 million that can't create anything for himself and is easily played off the court in the playoffs because he cannot guard on the perimeter at all.

Again, he isn't a bad player, but he is in no way worth the contract Utah gave him. And given the Spurs would have to trade half our team for him, how would it even be worth it. Poeltl at 9 million is better value than Gobert at 34 million. He will be 33 years old making 43 million for fucks sake

I happen to agree. Any team with decent 3 point shooting is going to make Gobert completely ineffective if not take him off the court altogether. This is a 3 point shooting league...Gobert gets picked and rolled to death every year when it matters.
Elite rim protector yes, not much else to offer. Flawed in every sense of the word. Hassan Whiteside...but with stability.

Texas_Ranger
07-09-2021, 05:33 AM
its 2021. defense aint important that much anymore and Gobert sucks at everything else. So, no, we dont need this vagina, we have a full team of them already.

JR3
07-13-2021, 05:46 PM
He could grow from this, and because of this situation we could get him relative with a reasonable price
As much as you think Leetonidas and I undervalue him, the Jazz over value him. It is unlikely that we get him for a “deal”. He could learn from it but doubt he would put in the time or has the capacity to add to his game. He should have added a couple of go to post moves as least by how and simply has not.

Sugus
07-13-2021, 07:21 PM
Ayton can't shoot, but he can fill the lane and dunk. And he's in the NBA finals and a key contributor. A big doesn't have to be a great offensive player. If the big is a great defensive player and can guard guys on the perimeter and finish as a garbage guy around the rim, that's all they need to do. Jakob is the perfect playoff big because he can block shots in the paint and switch on the perimeter. That means he can't get played off the floor like Lopez or Gobert once teams can scheme those guys into pick and rolls and get them stuck in switches on three point shooting guards. There are only 2-3 centers in the NBA that are the main scorers in the playoffs for their team and you don't have to be that to help your team win a title as is evidenced by the fact that the center on either team in the finals is not the best scorer on their teams and Brook Lopez may not get many minutes because he can't handle switches onto the Suns guards. Jakob would have no problem doing that.

And it isn't 5-4 if Jakob is a roll man and he does that pretty good. He is also a quality passer and screen setter, so he is absolutely not a 5-4 type of player on offense. He is a contributor and he can get even better and you can see he is motivated to do just that. He is one of the bright sides for this San Antonio roster. He already improved as a free throw shooter from the beginning of the season to the end of the season. Expect that to continue. Centers don't have to be 3 point shooters to be effective in the playoffs. It's nice if they can do that, but there are other ways to be effective and he does a good job.

Hardly are posts as good as this. Great analysis and agree wholeheartedly. Fellas really think every center in the league has to be a shooter and offensive master for the team to get anywhere, and every postseason it turns out to be bullshit.