*** 2021 NFL Preseason Thread ***

[Millennial_Messiah]

Whelp, looks like we'll actually have a preseason this year. I won't be posting in the regular season this year due to losing a bet with BD24 that I won't welch on. But this should be interesting... When will Aaron Rodgers be traded, tbh?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Darth_Pelican Chinook spurraider21 Mark Celibate It's going to be on you guys to keep the NFL forum alive and healthy and beating during this year's regular season, tbh. Y'all have to make the game threads this year. For the first time since the 2014 season, I won't be posting in the NFL forum during the regular season. #TimeForAChange

[The Gemini Method]

Losing Cam Akers to the Achilles tear is a huge loss for the Rams. Bummer.

[SpursforSix]

Losing Cam Akers to the Achilles tear is a huge loss for the Rams. Bummer.

LOL. He was my only decent keeper in a fantasy league. Was only going to cost me a 7th round pick.

[BD24]

LOL. He was my only decent keeper in a fantasy league. Was only going to cost me a 7th round pick.
I have Darrell Henderson in my dynasty league with my buddies lol. So worked out pretty nicely on my end. Definitely feel bad for the dude though, so young and to have that happen. Especially since most running backs don’t get a 2nd contract really

[SpursforSix]

I have Darrell Henderson in my dynasty league with my buddies lol. So worked out pretty nicely on my end. Definitely feel bad for the dude though, so young and to have that happen. Especially since most running backs don’t get a 2nd contract really

It does suck for him. I can't think of many athletes that came back from an Achilles tear. And none are RBs.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It does suck for him. I can't think of many athletes that came back from an Achilles tear. And none are RBs.

Yeah, Kobe was never the same, except for maybe his last ever game in the NBA. At first when you said RBs I thought Adrian Peterson, but that was his ACL and MCL tearing not Achilles.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Losing Cam Akers to the Achilles tear is a huge loss for the Rams. Bummer.

at least they still have the other two right? I don't think who plays RB matters for the Rams so much as long as the guys inside can block and they can plug and play whoever to set up the RPO and play action for Stafford. The Rams should absolutely be a pass first team with Stafford, but having guys who can gain yards on draw and inside zone type plays will also go a long way. Very tough division the Rams play in, likely the best in the NFL with the return of the 49ers.

[Robz4000]

Looks like Rodgers and the Packers have just about come to an agreement for Rodgers to return, at least for next season.

[BD24]

Looks like Rodgers and the Packers have just about come to an agreement for Rodgers to return, at least for next season.
Thank fuck.

Was gonna be a rough season watching us trot Love out under center every week

[FrostKing]

A bit tired of Rodgers saga and seeing his headlines everytime I click on ESPN.com

I am still a supporter of his but totally understand how he isolated himself from his family.

[Robz4000]

Carson Wentz out indefinitely with a foot injury that will most likely require surgery.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Come on Beane, get a 3rd rounder from Indy for Mitch :)

[lefty20]

Looks like Rodgers and the Packers have just about come to an agreement for Rodgers to return, at least for next season.

Shame. Was hoping for this drama to stretch into the preseason at the very least.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Come on Beane, get a 3rd rounder from Indy for Mitch :)
nobody wants mitch.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Shame. Was hoping for this drama to stretch into the preseason at the very least.
perhaps Justin Fields can shock the world and the Bears with that defense and Fields can win the NFC North even with a healthy Rodgers in GB.

[lefty20]

perhaps Justin Fields can shock the world and the Bears with that defense and Fields can win the NFC North even with a healthy Rodgers in GB.

That's the dream. But its' more likely that this happens next year instead of this year. That being said, a fan can still hope.

[BD24]

That's the dream. But its' more likely that this happens next year instead of this year. That being said, a fan can still hope.
I’m a big fields fan and think he is legit.

was pissed off to see him slip and y’all trade up like that. I’m conflicted now, I want the guy to do well, but also…fuck the bears. More than likely year 1 is a bit rough (rough still being better than the pile of garbage that was the bears qb situation last year), I imagine year 2 he takes a big step forward though.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I’m a big fields fan and think he is legit.

was pissed off to see him slip and y’all trade up like that. I’m conflicted now, I want the guy to do well, but also…fuck the bears. More than likely year 1 is a bit rough (rough still being better than the pile of garbage that was the bears qb situation last year), I imagine year 2 he takes a big step forward though.
Ya never know with rookie QBs though. Dak Prescott even in spite of a bad defense and a below average coach and megalomaniac owner, went 13-3 as a rookie. Have the Bears shored up their O-line problems? That is the question. They have more than enough talent on offense at the skill positions but as bad as Trubisky has been, the offensive line has been at least as much if not more to blame for the Bears' dismal offenses for the foreseeable past. That is why Foles didn't work (he needs great pass protection like what the Eagles had to perform well, since he is a multi-read pocket passing statue) and also partially to blame for Trubisky developing bad habits early in his career like flushing out from the pocket too quicky instead of going through reads and progressions and finding the right read, the right holes in the zones, etc.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I’m a big fields fan and think he is legit.

was pissed off to see him slip and y’all trade up like that. I’m conflicted now, I want the guy to do well, but also…fuck the bears. More than likely year 1 is a bit rough (rough still being better than the pile of garbage that was the bears qb situation last year), I imagine year 2 he takes a big step forward though.
Ya never know with rookie QBs though. Dak Prescott even in spite of a bad defense and a below average coach and megalomaniac owner, went 13-3 as a rookie. Have the Bears shored up their O-line problems? That is the question. They have more than enough talent on offense at the skill positions but as bad as Trubisky has been, the offensive line has been at least as much if not more to blame for the Bears' dismal offenses for the foreseeable past. That is why Foles didn't work (he needs great pass protection like what the Eagles had to perform well, since he is a multi-read pocket passing statue) and also partially to blame for Trubisky developing bad habits early in his career like flushing out from the pocket too quicky instead of going through reads and progressions and finding the right read, the right holes in the zones, etc.

[GAustex]

Dak shoulder all broke
Cowgirls lol

[GAustex]

Dak shoulder all broke
Cowgirls lol

[spurraider21]

vikings not playing any starters made the broncos 1's look outstanding

but the vikings reserves getting crushed by the broncos reserves speaks to their depth

[spurraider21]

nathan peterman actually playing like a backup level QB :tu

nice reclamation project for gruden

[Spurtacular]

Johnny Lawrence 2nd QB played: 6-9 71 yds
Zach Wilson 2nd QB played: 6-9 63 yds

[Spurtacular]

It looks good until he's the next RG3.

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[lefty20]

It looks good until he's the next RG3.

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Running should be a last resort for him. He needs to keep trusting that arm as much as possible. But, I think that our O Line is gonna make him use his feet more often than he should.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It looks good until he's the next RG3.

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yeah, but they had 3 points midway through the 3rd quarter... I know it's preseason but that looks too much like the Trubisky, Cuntler etc era Bears score board wise...

[Spurtacular]

yeah, but they had 3 points midway through the 3rd quarter... I know it's preseason but that looks too much like the Trubisky, Cuntler etc era Bears score board wise...

Haven't looked at a box score. For all I know, that could've been his first series.

I don't put too much stock into preseason. Otherwise that thirty point butt whooping the Vikes took from the Broncos is really bad.

I did read an article quoting Fields as boasting the speed of play was slower than he expected.

[spurraider21]

liked what i saw out of fields tbh

[BD24]

liked what i saw out of fields tbh
Yep. Honestly all of the rookie qbs looked pretty decent

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_icv6zwGhZ4&ab_channel=GeorgeKittle

[Spurtacular]

YT videos from NFL account not embedding on YT. What wankers.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hthkhFb0JQ&ab_channel=NFL

[Spurtacular]

Seahawks reportedly make Jamal Adams highest-paid safety with 4-year, $70 million deal (https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-seahawks-reportedly-make-jamal-adams-highest-paid-safety-with-4-year-70-million-deal-180757954.html)

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_icv6zwGhZ4&ab_channel=GeorgeKittle

no question it would have been overturned if it wasn't preseason.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Seahawks reportedly make Jamal Adams highest-paid safety with 4-year, $70 million deal (https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-seahawks-reportedly-make-jamal-adams-highest-paid-safety-with-4-year-70-million-deal-180757954.html)



17.5M/year, that's actually a bargain, people were saying he was going to make 20M+ per year, there were reports he wanted 25M per year. Good for Seattle. He's a terrible cover guy but he's the best pass rushing safety / box safety in the league.

[DeadlyDynasty]

17.5M/year, that's actually a bargain, people were saying he was going to make 20M+ per year, there were reports he wanted 25M per year. Good for Seattle. He's a terrible cover guy but he's the best pass rushing safety / box safety in the league.
The Bills game this past season was quintessential Jamal Adams. A couple nice sacks but absolutely roasted in coverage all day

[DeadlyDynasty]

Our LT has/had COVID and isn’t in game shape so I don’t see Josh Allen playing at all this preseason. Hope I’m wrong because that would be a rough indictment on our OT depth

[BD24]

MM isn’t your dumb ass supposed to be done posting on the nfl forum? Don’t think I’m gonna let you welch faggot

[Spurtacular]

MM isn’t your dumb ass supposed to be done posting on the nfl forum? Don’t think I’m gonna let you welch faggot

I'm sorry this is happening to you.

[Spurtacular]

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[BD24]

Spurt begging me for attention per par ^^

[Millennial_Messiah]

MM isn’t your dumb ass supposed to be done posting on the nfl forum? Don’t think I’m gonna let you welch faggot

Season hasn't started yet. I said September all along. week 1 starts on the monday before september 9th I believe.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The Bills game this past season was quintessential Jamal Adams. A couple nice sacks but absolutely roasted in coverage all day

yeah, he is way too blitz happy off schedule. he's a great run stopper and an all time great blitzer from his position, but he's not disciplined like Kam Chancellor was. Not only is he not particularly great when he does decide to actually cover... well he is good at making the quick tackle after giving up the catch to his man, but that's about it. The main problem with him in the Seattle D is he pretty much blitzes whenever he feels like it, which often times leaves open wide open holes in the zone defense that wouldn't be there if he did what he was supposed to do which is drop into coverage and fill a zone. Which leaves the rest of the secondary vulnerable for YAC as well.

[FrostKing]

Seahawks reportedly make Jamal Adams highest-paid safety with 4-year, $70 million deal (https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-seahawks-reportedly-make-jamal-adams-highest-paid-safety-with-4-year-70-million-deal-180757954.html)
https://i.ibb.co/rc3bQVr/y6iykufgn6i71.jpg

[Spurtacular]

Flacco back on the attack?

Could be fun.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2o3grbQzQQ&ab_channel=HighlightHeaven

[DeadlyDynasty]

Those Bills unis are so sexy tbh

[DeadlyDynasty]

Our new D-Line is looking fierce. AJ is a new player and Rousseau is already making a difference in limited snaps. A couple nice plays by Boogie too.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Fields just got fucking leveled

[DeadlyDynasty]

Zach Wilson looks good.

[Borosai]

Yeah it's preseason foozball, but the Bills are looking good and deep. This will be a good year. :elephant

[SpursforSix]

Yeah it's preseason foozball, but the Bills are looking good and deep. This will be a good year. :elephant

bend over, I’ll fucking show you good and deep - Robert Frost

[FrostKing]

Fields just got fucking leveled

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[Borosai]

bend over, I’ll fucking show you good and deep - Robert Frost

One of his finest.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpxpELZ43_M&ab_channel=HighlightHeaven

[Spurtacular]

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:lol

[spurraider21]

Teddy Bridgewater named starter over Drew Lock in Denver

Lawrence finally announced as starter for Jags

Bears have insisted Dalton will start week 1

Next domino will be when Shanahan finally announces that Lance will start

[Millennial_Messiah]

Teddy Bridgewater named starter over Drew Lock in Denver

Lawrence finally announced as starter for Jags

Bears have insisted Dalton will start week 1

Next domino will be when Shanahan finally announces that Lance will start

Nah. Jimmy G will start until he starts throwing picks or otherwise stagnates the offense. If it's 2019 business as usual he won't get benched.

Bears are dumb, but maybe smart because they're probably going to get blown out on the road anyway considering week 1 is AT THE RAMS. Feed Andy Dalton to the wolves (Aaron Donald, Ramsey, etc) to build a scapegoat and a quick excuse for replacing him with Fields in week 2.

Lawrence over Minshew is a no brainer. Minshew isn't a starting caliber NFL QB. Backup-quality, yes, but only for a short and finite amount of weeks.

Bridgewater is better than Lock, but he's still a bus driver at best...the Broncos won't be better than the Panthers last year, and in the AFC West that means last in the division and a solidly losing record.

[spurraider21]

keeper advice for my friends home league

12 person league, 0.5 ppr, 2WR 2RB 1 Flex league

i get to keep one of:

Diontae Johnson (will cost me a 7th round pick)
Myles Gaskin (will cost me a 10th)

i value Diontae more (though not as much as if it were full PPR)... but the round differential is what's making it a tough call. feel like i can get a legit starting caliber player in round 7, not so much round 10

[BD24]

keeper advice for my friends home league

12 person league, 0.5 ppr, 2WR 2RB 1 Flex league

i get to keep one of:

Diontae Johnson (will cost me a 7th round pick)
Myles Gaskin (will cost me a 10th)

i value Diontae more (though not as much as if it were full PPR)... but the round differential is what's making it a tough call. feel like i can get a legit starting caliber player in round 7, not so much round 10
I’d still keep Johnson personally. Think he is going in the 4th or 5th round most drafts. Miami backfield is shaping up to be a rbbc. I don’t think gaskin will get enough work to be a weekly starter. Johnson on the other hand you can confidently start as a flex or wr2 week to week. Essentially I just don’t think you will be able to confidently start gaskin week to week.

[spurraider21]

I’d still keep Johnson personally. Think he is going in the 4th or 5th round most drafts. Miami backfield is shaping up to be a rbbc. I don’t think gaskin will get enough work to be a weekly starter. Johnson on the other hand you can confidently start as a flex or wr2 week to week. Essentially I just don’t think you will be able to confidently start gaskin week to week.
i definitely like johnson more, as i said. but its the opportunity cost as well (7th rounder in a home league can get you a good player, 10th round not so much). im not crazy high on gaskin (dont like him at his ADP), but even in a committee approach he's going to get most of the receiving work which is what ends up counting.

other reason that has me leaning gaskin is the roster format. 2WR, 2RB, 1 Flex is more RB favorable than other formats like 3WR or 2 Flex

[DeadlyDynasty]

What a disgusting throw by Josh Allen for a TD on 3rd and 20. Just stay healthy and there’s no way we don’t win the AFC

[BD24]

i definitely like johnson more, as i said. but its the opportunity cost as well (7th rounder in a home league can get you a good player, 10th round not so much). im not crazy high on gaskin (dont like him at his ADP), but even in a committee approach he's going to get most of the receiving work which is what ends up counting.

other reason that has me leaning gaskin is the roster format. 2WR, 2RB, 1 Flex is more RB favorable than other formats like 3WR or 2 Flex
I’m not sure gaskin will get most of the passing down work. Malcolm brown is a really good pass blocker. And I was looking at the list of players in the 7th and no one to get overly excited about imo. I suppose do you have more keepers? Or just the 1? That’s a factor as well. Like if you already have a stud wr and are weak at rb that’s a factor as well

[BD24]

What a disgusting throw by Josh Allen for a TD on 3rd and 20. Just stay healthy and there’s no way we don’t win the AFC
Josh is nasty. Big gabe Davis fan. Think he will breakout this year…especially with the extra work he gets due to Beasley being a dumb ass

[DeadlyDynasty]

Rousseau had high bust potential coming out but he makes an impact on almost every passing down

[DeadlyDynasty]

That throw, goddamn:lol

[spurraider21]

I’m not sure gaskin will get most of the passing down work. Malcolm brown is a really good pass blocker. And I was looking at the list of players in the 7th and no one to get overly excited about imo. I suppose do you have more keepers? Or just the 1? That’s a factor as well. Like if you already have a stud wr and are weak at rb that’s a factor as well
we just get 1 keeper

[BD24]

we just get 1 keeper
Hmm. Yea idk. Maybe gaskin in the 10th is the play. I’ll say that is the riskier move imo. But maybe more high upside as well.

[Millennial_Messiah]

What a disgusting throw by Josh Allen for a TD on 3rd and 20. Just stay healthy and there’s no way we don’t win the AFC
KC...

I don't believe in the AFC North teams, tbh

[spurraider21]

Hmm. Yea idk. Maybe gaskin in the 10th is the play. I’ll say that is the riskier move imo. But maybe more high upside as well.
every since the dolphins avoided drafting a back or signing a notable one, i felt mostly good about Gaskin given the price tag... but that first preseason game got my really nervous, though he really stood out in the 2nd. that still makes me feel like it could be a hot hand situation, even though all the dolphins beat guys have routinely said Gaskin stands out.

its tough, i probably will change my mind 4-5 times between now and when i have to make that call on monday

[Spurtacular]

https://i.ibb.co/rc3bQVr/y6iykufgn6i71.jpg

:lol

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcPUHH39Pxk&ab_channel=HighlightHeaven

[FrostKing]

49ers rotating QBs within the drive :wakeup

[spurraider21]

fun first half, watching the niners starters playing almost all of it against the raiders 3rd stringers + gerald mccoy lol

[FrostKing]

fun first half, watching the niners starters playing almost all of it against the raiders 3rd stringers + gerald mccoy lol
Why is Gruden doing this?

[Robz4000]

Niners have a ridiculous dearth of D-line depth.

[spurraider21]

Why is Gruden doing this?
uses preseason to make bottom of roster calls, not to showcase starters. he usually holds them out to prevent injury. i'm not sure carr has ever take a preseason snap since gruden took over

[FrostKing]

uses preseason to make bottom of roster calls, not to showcase starters. he usually holds them out to prevent injury. i'm not sure carr has ever take a preseason snap since gruden took over
I understand in theory. My issue is most the bottom of the roster guys won't make the roster/see the field. And guys that will fill in are forced to showcase outside the roles they might fill. On offense you could just play some of the 1st team and showcase guys on the roster bubble. If the unit is being bulldozed by opponents 1st team then what sort of barometer is that beyond "He doesn't quit and fights".

Would be interesting to see how Raiders have performed in relation to the spread the first few weeks of the season, under him.

[FrostKing]

Niners have a ridiculous dearth of D-line depth.
The other day I finally discussed some NFL with 49er fans. I downplayed how good we are but in comparison to the SB team, I think we are solidly better on paper. Except for the secondary and possibly linebacker. Every other unit is better and deeper. Defensive line might take a little bit into the season until Bosa is back in rhythm.

[Robz4000]

The other day I finally discussed some NFL with 49er fans. I downplayed how good we are but in comparison to the SB team, I think we are solidly better on paper. Except for the secondary and possibly linebacker. Every other unit is better and deeper. Defensive line might take a little bit into the season until Bosa is back in rhythm.

Secondary is what will keep the Niners from beating the Bucs imo.

[FrostKing]

Secondary is what will keep the Niners from beating the Bucs imo.
Agreed. We haven't even been hit with injuries yet and it's still the weak link.

[FrostKing]

"And Kyle just mind effed with the whole league. He knows exactly what he was doing. Whether he actually uses Trey that much, remains to be seen. But he just made every DC have to devote time to preparing to see it that much."

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyEYgMJ1izU&ab_channel=HighlightHeaven

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcPUHH39Pxk&ab_channel=HighlightHeaven



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=756tR8IY_WU&ab_channel=NFL