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07-16-2021, 01:52 PM
30 days out from Presley's death---16 August 1977.

I found this cut on a YouTube video. It's at 23:52 when this great man encounters 2 young girls outside his International Hotel dressing room. One of the girls is in deep shock in his presence...just 43 seconds that tell us about 'E'.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMTnMIpZq0g

ElNono
07-16-2021, 02:03 PM
lol old people

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07-16-2021, 02:10 PM
"Early Lord, one frosty morn."

The old standard I've lodged more than a few times...this time with my original prose to introduce it on an eBay message board 27 July 2007...

July 14th, 1973 via satellite from Honolulu:

Elvis Presley, focused, tireless thru 25 cuts before the penultimate tribute to the Southland. The fierce melding of the negroe spiritual, and the sacred anthem of the Confederacy, driven excitedly by Julia Ward Howe's Battle Hymn of the Republic. Presley, foreshadowing his own demise All My Trials leading in to the solo of Dixie by the flutist, who nervously delivers his work under the impatient gaze of Presley. Presley, angrily imploring Tutt, the drummer before finally commanding J.D. Sumner and the Stamps Quartet to initiate their haunting wail to the South, while Presley himself takes this American Trilogy on into the ages.

The 30th anniversary of Elvis Presley's death is August 16th.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FT3SmZ_zx0

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07-16-2021, 08:35 PM
"I'll remember you
Long after this endless summer is gone"

Again from Honolulu via the satellite.

He is acappella at 1:30 then cites the Sweet Inspirations a few seconds later.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La1aMmS9R64

Mitch
07-16-2021, 08:46 PM
Always forget Elvis was just 42 when he died, always pictured 70s elvis in his late 50s

Spurtacular
07-17-2021, 04:05 AM
Another Hollywood casualty, tbh.

DMC
07-17-2021, 12:57 PM
He's lucky to have died early. Imagine how he would have tried to hang on to his youth and how it would ruin his entire image. Does anyone think of a young Bill Cosby or young Robert DeNiro? No, they think of the old, broken down, decrepit TOSBs they are now. Thankfully Elvis only touched the fringe of TOSB.

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07-17-2021, 06:38 PM
He's lucky to have died early. Imagine how he would have tried to hang on to his youth and how it would ruin his entire image. Does anyone think of a young Bill Cosby or young Robert DeNiro? No, they think of the old, broken down, decrepit TOSBs they are now. Thankfully Elvis only touched the fringe of TOSB.

Indeed. He could never get over turning 30, must less growing old.

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07-17-2021, 06:42 PM
Another Hollywood casualty, tbh.

He did it himself, Spurts. Presley did nothing that he didn't want to do. I love the man with all me heart, but he was not a victim. He lived his life on his terms and nobody's else's.

I'm grateful for what he has left me and I try not to lament what he did not.

Spurtacular
07-17-2021, 11:24 PM
He did it himself, Spurts. Presley did nothing that he didn't want to do. I love the man with all me heart, but he was not a victim. He lived his life on his terms and nobody's else's.

I'm grateful for what he has left me and I try not to lament what he did not.

They got him addicted on drugs and what not. It's how they do it, Thread.

Spurtacular
07-17-2021, 11:27 PM
He's lucky to have died early. Imagine how he would have tried to hang on to his youth and how it would ruin his entire image. Does anyone think of a young Bill Cosby or young Robert DeNiro? No, they think of the old, broken down, decrepit TOSBs they are now. Thankfully Elvis only touched the fringe of TOSB.

His image already took the hit. Fat and singing one barely tolerable gospel rock song after another.
Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger didn't slip down that hell path. Michael Jackson neither.

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07-17-2021, 11:49 PM
They got him addicted on drugs and what not. It's how they do it, Thread.

No one held him down. He went away from his craft, from his dedication to it. He was deathly afraid of aging and felt after he turned 30 that it was all over..."But, it's not, Elvis. You have many good years left." they told him...implored him.

He simply would not listen. They tried to pry him away from the drugs till the point where if they persisted..."You can find another job."

He left a lot of people bereft and without recourse, Spurts. It wasn't a real corporation, no, everyone was flying by the seat of their pants (E) included, depending on one man to maintain their lifestyle, a lifestyle that he controlled. They knew that going in, so, they have nobody to blame but themselves for that dependence, but, nonetheless I feel sorry for all those people who had their livelihood taken away from them OVERNIGHT. That was it. It was over. Over-over because he had fallen down and refused to get up...and in the intrepid words of "Sheriff Andy Taylor":::"act like somebody."

He became surly with the crowds at the end..."Somebody would request a certain song..."I ain't gonna sing 'em all."

Talking trash during a song he'd sang a thousand times---he'd bust it up. Well, gd it, the people in that audience wanted it the original way because that was THEIR time to bear witness.

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07-17-2021, 11:54 PM
His image already took the hit. Fat and singing one barely tolerable gospel rock song after another.
Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger didn't slip down that hell path. Michael Jackson neither.

But the voice remained, thank Christ, in tact. His physical presentation was embarrassing not only for him, but for us. But he needed the money. At his death he only had a 100k in his checking account and 1 million in savings! That's appalling, Spurts.

I'm always reminded of another American hero who disgraced himself and left early...Sam Peckinpah, the great director of many films including -The Wild Bunch-...one of his stock company members James Coburn spoke at his funeral and reminded "us" to appreciate what "Sam" left us and not to dwell on the waste.

Spurtacular
07-17-2021, 11:59 PM
No one held him down. He went away from his craft, from his dedication to it. He was deathly afraid of aging and felt after he turned 30 that it was all over..."But, it's not, Elvis. You have many good years left." they told him...implored him.

He simply would not listen. They tried to pry him away from the drugs till the point where if they persisted..."You can find another job."

He left a lot of people bereft and without recourse, Spurts. It wasn't a real corporation, no, everyone was flying by the seat of their pants (E) included, depending on one man to maintain their lifestyle, a lifestyle that he controlled. They knew that going in, so, they have nobody to blame but themselves for that dependence, but, nonetheless I feel sorry for all those people who had their livelihood taken away from them OVERNIGHT. That was it. It was over. Over-over because he had fallen down and refused to get up...and in the intrepid words of "Sheriff Andy Taylor":::"act like somebody."

He became surly with the crowds at the end..."Somebody would request a certain song..."I ain't gonna sing 'em all."

Talking trash during a song he'd sang a thousand times---he'd bust it up. Well, gd it, the people in that audience wanted it the original way because that was THEIR time to bear witness.

Sure, a stronger man may have overcame. But don't be giving Hollywood a pass. They use you and spit you out.

ChumpDumper
07-18-2021, 12:29 PM
:lol Elvis started on pills in the army, not Hollywood. And no one was going to stop him once he got hooked.

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07-18-2021, 06:03 PM
A favorite of Elvis in the movies. -It Happened at the Worlds Fair- (1963)

Love the depth of this sequence, a 3-D effect is realized of the populace moving about in their trailers and in the street.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LekTB-a0JHM

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07-18-2021, 06:12 PM
Also from the same motion picture -It Happened at the World's Fair- (1963)

'E' visits Yvonne Craig at her parent's home while they are out.

She is at zenith here...

"This is how we'd like you play it, Yvonne."
"No problem."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3RuEve8-fk&t=182s

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07-18-2021, 06:41 PM
He wasn't gone 2 years and Dick Clark and his production company managed to get -Elvis- onto soundtrack film before the vultures would descend.
Bless-his-soul.

Kurt Russell played Elvis and swore in the circa that he would never again don the costume. He lied.
All is forgiven.

The film ends with "An American Trilogy" arrangment by Mickey Newbury - The camera remains on Russell and the shot is not freeze framed...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGlMq4O5vnY

Spurtacular
07-18-2021, 08:41 PM
Trivia question for ya, Thread. What's the one leading lady who Elvis didn't bang?

ChumpDumper
07-18-2021, 09:22 PM
Barbara Stanwick

ElNono
07-19-2021, 12:57 AM
10 Reasons Why Elvis Presley Is Overrated

1. The movies.

Elvis was not a good actor, and his movies are horrible. Take, for example, Harum Scarum (1965). He plays a movie star (naturally) who’s kidnapped and taken to a Middle Eastern country where he’s enlisted by—get this—the Lord of Assassins to kill an Arabian king. Oh, and he falls in love with the king’s daughter. Check out the film’s trailer, which we thought was a parody until we noticed it was posted by Warner Bros.

2. The fake songwriting credits.

Elvis hardly wrote any of his songs, but he sure got credit for all of them. Granted, it was reportedly his manager, “Colonel” Tom Parker (a real piece of work himself), who made Presley do it. But still, we’re talking about more than just taking credit for other people’s hard work—he took money from them. Otis Blackwell deserved the royalties for “Don’t Be Cruel.” Ken Darby deserved the royalties for “Love Me Tender.” The list goes on.

3. The title “the King of Rock ‘n’ Roll.”

There’s no doubt that Elvis left his mark on contemporary music. But to hold the title of “The King” one should be the most influential in all of rock music. With that in mind, consider how many rock musicians call The Beatles a primary influence compared with Presley. From their set-up to their record sales, the Beatles have far more influence than Elvis on rock ’n’ roll. And considering that four men hold the greatest share of power and influence in rock, it’s questionable whether anyone deserves the title. Besides, this is America!

4. “Amazing Grace” (and other terrible gospel songs).

“Amazing Grace” was written by the repentant slave trader John Newton, reflecting on the idea that God’s grace could save him from even his most evil deeds. And nothing manages to destroy the introspective song faster than the sound of Elvis moaning and grunting his way through it. Elvis recorded nearly 100 gospel songs over the course of his career, and rarely, if ever, did he bother to drop his affected delivery out of reverence. There’s nothing wrong with making a song sound sexy, but hands off the Hymnal, Your Majesty.

5. The fashion.

He started off all clean-cut and handsome, but we can’t get behind Iconic Elvis. There’s just something about those rhinestone jumpsuits that screams “morally reprehensible.” Not to mention, people make fun of Bono for his sunglasses—but this man had the audacity to incorporate a CAPE into his signature style. And don’t even get us started on the sideburns (they deserve their own List of the Day).

6. Vegas.

The King’s very public relationship with Vegas may have begun with his movie and song Viva Las Vegas, but Elvis later performed more than 800 sold-out shows that would forever shape Sin City. Whether Elvis was drawn to Vegas, or Vegas was drawn to Elvis, the relationship was a match made in a rhinestone-adorned hell—giving rise to a culture of unoriginal shows that consistently place style over substance. And does it bother you that artists like Celine Dion make millions performing the same show night after night in the same venue? Blame Presley.

7. The Impersonators.

As if seeing hundreds of albums, books and movies highlighting Elvis weren’t enough, it appears that about half the world has at least once pretended to be the King. For some, it’s as innocent as slicking back their hair and curling a lip in front of the mirror, while countless others have ruined their lives (or at least their reputations) by donning sparkly leisure suits and gyrating their hips in public. Make no mistake; people don’t impersonate Elvis just because they like him. They do it because it’s easy. Most of what made Elvis memorable had nothing to do with music, so nearly anyone can be the King. Are you overweight and tone-deaf? Not a problem! Just slide into a shiny jumpsuit, shimmy and shake for all you’re worth, and you’re almost as good as Elvis himself. But make sure to mention that you’re “70’s Elvis.”8. “Jailhouse Rock.”

9. Graceland.

Each year Graceland receives more than 600,000 visitors, making it second only to the White House in terms of famous American homes. That means that each year, thousands upon thousands of children lose the opportunity to visit a place with actual historical merit (or at least some entertainment value) so that their parents can indulge in weird Elvis fetishes. It’s one thing to make your kid listen to Presley in the car, but to steal her summer vacation away to visit a garish monument to rock opulence? Well, that just borders on cruelty.

10. He won’t go away.

The “Elvis Lives” thing is just embarrassing. Tupac Twitters, but Elvis really died. He stopped making music. Over 30 years ago. Somehow, his hits are still being regurgitated and, of course, topping charts. In 2002, a compilation of his 30 No. 1 hits went quadruple platinum. And this past Christmas, his duets record reached 17 on the US 100. It creepily featured a bunch of female pop and country stars, like Amy Grant and Martina McBride, pretending to sing with him. You might wonder, how could Gretchen Wilson record a song with Elvis in 2008 if he died in 1977? The answer’s obvious: Elvis lives.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/elvis-presley/ten-reasons-why-elvis-is-overrated/

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07-19-2021, 01:33 AM
Trivia question for ya, Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320). What's the one leading lady who Elvis didn't bang?

Dumps is probably right...Stanwyck.

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07-19-2021, 01:43 AM
[QUOTE=ElNono;10556043]10 Reasons Why Elvis Presley Is Overrated



2. The fake songwriting credits.

Elvis hardly wrote any of his songs, but he sure got credit for all of them. Granted, it was reportedly his manager, “Colonel” Tom Parker (a real piece of work himself), who made Presley do it. But still, we’re talking about more than just taking credit for other people’s hard work—he took money from them. Otis Blackwell deserved the royalties for “Don’t Be Cruel.” Ken Darby deserved the royalties for “Love Me Tender.” The list goes on.}}}

He also made Presley send all his shit/signed blank check attached in every year to the IRS and let the IRS figure it out. Never-a-problem.

ElNono
07-19-2021, 02:14 AM
He also made Presley send all his shit/signed blank check attached in every year to the IRS and let the IRS figure it out. Never-a-problem.

:lol this is fantasy, Dale. Elvis tax returns are all available. See: https://www.graceland.com/blog/posts/money-honey-elvis-presley-and-taxes

Also, lol @ never a problem:

IRS says Presley estate owes $14 million in back taxes
MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- The Internal Revenue Service claims the Elvis Presley estate owes more than $14 million in back taxes because of alleged mistakes in reporting the late entertainer's income, the Memphis Commercial-Appeal said Friday.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/08/14/IRS-says-Presley-estate-owes-14-million-in-back-taxes/1526366609600/

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07-19-2021, 03:23 AM
:lol this is fantasy, Dale. Elvis tax returns are all available. See: https://www.graceland.com/blog/posts/money-honey-elvis-presley-and-taxes

Also, lol @ never a problem:

IRS says Presley estate owes $14 million in back taxes
MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- The Internal Revenue Service claims the Elvis Presley estate owes more than $14 million in back taxes because of alleged mistakes in reporting the late entertainer's income, the Memphis Commercial-Appeal said Friday.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1981/08/14/IRS-says-Presley-estate-owes-14-million-in-back-taxes/1526366609600/

Horseshit.

Spurtacular
07-19-2021, 03:57 AM
Dumps is probably right...Stanwyck.

Mary Tyler Moore.

ChumpDumper
07-19-2021, 10:50 AM
So you're saying Elvis banged a 57 year old costar.

Thread
07-20-2021, 10:51 AM
So you're saying Elvis banged a 57 year old costar.

She's a great actress, top shelf, but I've never been able to see her as a sexual entity.

Spurtacular
07-20-2021, 06:19 PM
She's a great actress, top shelf, but I've never been able to see her as a sexual entity.

I'm guessing Derp is being Derp and pretending someone else was the leading lady in a particular flick.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BP8GJA/barbara-stanwyck-elvis-presley-joan-freeman-roustabout-1964-BP8GJA.jpg

ChumpDumper
07-20-2021, 06:33 PM
I'm guessing Derp is being Derp and pretending someone else was the leading lady in a particular flick.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/BP8GJA/barbara-stanwyck-elvis-presley-joan-freeman-roustabout-1964-BP8GJA.jpgYou never watched Roustabout, derp.

We did.

Spurtacular
07-21-2021, 04:25 AM
Maybe Elvis banged ole Barbie.

No matter who, he was probably thinking of Raquel at the time anyhow.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po48slKRzBo

Blake
07-21-2021, 07:54 AM
[QUOTE=ElNono;10556043]10 Reasons Why Elvis Presley Is Overrated



2. The fake songwriting credits.

Elvis hardly wrote any of his songs, but he sure got credit for all of them. Granted, it was reportedly his manager, “Colonel” Tom Parker (a real piece of work himself), who made Presley do it. But still, we’re talking about more than just taking credit for other people’s hard work—he took money from them. Otis Blackwell deserved the royalties for “Don’t Be Cruel.” Ken Darby deserved the royalties for “Love Me Tender.” The list goes on.}}}

He also made Presley send all his shit/signed blank check attached in every year to the IRS and let the IRS figure it out. Never-a-problem.

Wait, you mean he didn't write "In the Ghetto"?

Allan Rowe vs Wade
07-21-2021, 08:16 AM
Elvis is the King


nobody elected him King. he just is. that's how Kings work

Thread
07-21-2021, 11:30 AM
[QUOTE=Thread;10556059]

Wait, you mean he didn't write "In the Ghetto"?

No, but 'E' WOKE us a half-century early, Blake...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beuMKRcdkzs

Spurtacular
07-21-2021, 04:26 PM
Wait, you mean he didn't write "In the Ghetto"?

Is Elvis on the list of entities not for cuckolds?

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01-05-2022, 10:05 PM
Let us proceed...

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01-05-2022, 10:10 PM
"Early Lord, one frosty morn."

The old standard I've lodged more than a few times...this time with my original prose to introduce it on an eBay message board 27 July 2007...

July 14th, 1973 via satellite from Honolulu:

Elvis Presley, focused, tireless thru 25 cuts before the penultimate tribute to the Southland. The fierce melding of the negroe spiritual, and the sacred anthem of the Confederacy, driven excitedly by Julia Ward Howe's Battle Hymn of the Republic. Presley, foreshadowing his own demise All My Trials leading in to the solo of Dixie by the flutist, who nervously delivers his work under the impatient gaze of Presley. Presley, angrily imploring Tutt, the drummer before finally commanding J.D. Sumner and the Stamps Quartet to initiate their haunting wail to the South, while Presley himself takes this American Trilogy on into the ages.

The 30th anniversary of Elvis Presley's death is August 16th.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FT3SmZ_zx0

"Early Lord, one frosty morn." (1.8.1935)

leemajors
01-06-2022, 10:13 AM
He's garbage

SpursforSix
01-06-2022, 01:29 PM
He's lucky to have died early. Imagine how he would have tried to hang on to his youth and how it would ruin his entire image. Does anyone think of a young Bill Cosby or young Robert DeNiro? No, they think of the old, broken down, decrepit TOSBs they are now. Thankfully Elvis only touched the fringe of TOSB.

For sure. We do this all the time. "Just think of what we missed with the deaths of Hendrix, Lennon, Joplin...etc."
The truth is that as people get older, they lose much of their creativity. We romanticize the early deaths and pretend they were going to continue to create great music their whole lives.
But how much do we really get from 40+ year old musicians? You can look at the Rolling Stones, McCartney...anyone for that matter.

TimDunkem
01-07-2022, 07:10 PM
For sure. We do this all the time. "Just think of what we missed with the deaths of Hendrix, Lennon, Joplin...etc."
The truth is that as people get older, they lose much of their creativity. We romanticize the early deaths and pretend they were going to continue to create great music their whole lives.
But how much do we really get from 40+ year old musicians? You can look at the Rolling Stones, McCartney...anyone for that matter.

Tbf, Hendrix had a lot left to give. Lennon would still probably be active politically and was more of an artist/poet McCartney is, but true enough. Some of these guys should've hung it up a while ago.

Thread
01-07-2022, 08:45 PM
For sure. We do this all the time. "Just think of what we missed with the deaths of Hendrix, Lennon, Joplin...etc."
The truth is that as people get older, they lose much of their creativity. We romanticize the early deaths and pretend they were going to continue to create great music their whole lives.
But how much do we really get from 40+ year old musicians? You can look at the Rolling Stones, McCartney...anyone for that matter.


Tbf, Hendrix had a lot left to give. Lennon would still probably be active politically and was more of an artist/poet McCartney is, but true enough. Some of these guys should've hung it up a while ago.

The bitter realization mercilessly persists: they're not machines.

SpursforSix
01-08-2022, 12:29 PM
Tbf, Hendrix had a lot left to give. Lennon would still probably be active politically and was more of an artist/poet McCartney is, but true enough. Some of these guys should've hung it up a while ago.

I’m not saying they should all hang it up. Just that the prolific output of new (and good) music stops. Agree that Hendrix had some more years.

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01-08-2022, 02:03 PM
Bono then...Elvis: "Should you go first."


https://youtu.be/ESxWf_Mp0zs

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01-08-2022, 04:31 PM
Should You Go First
~by Albert Kennedy "Rosey" Rowsell~


Should you go first and I remain
to walk the road alone,
I'll live in memories garden dear,
with happy days we've known.

In spring I'll wait for roses red,
when faded, the lilacs blue.
In early fall when brown leaves fall,
I'll catch a glimpse of you.

Should you go first and I remain,
for battle to be fought.
Each thing you've touched along the way
will be a hallowed spot.

I'll hear your voice, I'll see your smile,
though blindly I may grope,
The memory of your helping hand
will buoy me on with hope.

Should you go first and I remain,
one thing I'll have you do:
Walk slowly down that long long path,
for soon I'll follow you.

I want to know each step you take,
so I may take the same.
For someday down that lonely road
you'll hear me call your name.