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Rummpd
07-26-2021, 08:19 PM
Luka making a strong case putting up historical bombers first game after dominant playoff numbers, while Durant so far stinking it up and Giannis on sideline so right now:

Luka > Giannis > Diva Durant but could flip in a couple weeks

MultiTroll
07-26-2021, 08:38 PM
Luka or Freak discussion fine.

:lol Durbetta.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1002389719467069441

JamStone
07-26-2021, 09:11 PM
I don’t know... that Trae Young kid shows no fear.

Kawhitstorm
07-26-2021, 10:07 PM
Luka making a strong case putting up historical bombers first game after dominant playoff numbers, while Durant so far stinking it up and Giannis on sideline so right now:

Luka > Giannis > Diva Durant but could flip in a couple weeks

Kiwi literally tore up that punk ass white boy & sent him packing 6 weeks ago :sleep


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_OUvWb9S7o

Giannis :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYrjnMgDDGI


...and Servant literally changed conferences after Kiwi shutdown the Oracle.:toast

Neo.
07-26-2021, 10:17 PM
idk if he's the best in the world yet, but one thing is for sure

kawhi is not, and not even top 5 :lmao

DMC
07-26-2021, 10:53 PM
I don’t know... that Trae Young kid shows no fear.

Neither did Isaiah Thomas tbh..

DMC
07-26-2021, 10:54 PM
idk if he's the best in the world yet, but one thing is for sure

kawhi is not, and not even top 5 :lmao

Not even as good as Klay

Texas_Ranger
07-27-2021, 02:44 AM
Kiwi literally tore up that punk ass white boy & sent him packing 6 weeks ago :sleep


it would have been fun seeing Kawhi being defended by real defenders, like Luka was.

Rummpd
07-27-2021, 06:18 AM
Kawhi gets DNP as hurt too much to be in discussion but put him 5 behind Curry right now to start the arguments

JamStone
07-27-2021, 10:59 AM
Neither did Isaiah Thomas tbh..

That’s cool. I don’t understand the correlation though. And I’m not sure you understand my post.

Michael Jordan.
07-27-2021, 11:11 AM
it would have been fun seeing Kawhi being defended by real defenders, like Luka was.
Naw when he is defended by real defenders he cries to the officials

Neo.
07-27-2021, 11:32 AM
Naw when he is defended by real defenders he cries to the officials

while efficiently averaging 36/8/10 for 7 games with virtually no offensive support aside from 2 hot games from THJ

Michael Jordan.
07-27-2021, 11:39 AM
while efficiently averaging 36/8/10 for 7 games with virtually no offensive support aside from 2 hot games from THJ
On 30 shots lol

Neo.
07-27-2021, 11:46 AM
On 30 shots lol

and 57% efg

unlike say michael jordan who for his playoff career struggled to even break 50 :lol

Rummpd
07-27-2021, 12:24 PM
On 30 shots lol

MJ is the near goat after the real GOAT Kareem but they may have a contender in Luka if he ups his defense and gets some teammates someday. Kid is special

Texas_Ranger
07-27-2021, 12:30 PM
On 30 shots lol

i guess shooting 50% and 41% from the 3 is bad now... Fucking Luka, should have passed the ball to Finney Smith, Zingis Pingis, Powel and Hardaway more so they could brick more shots.

Chucho
07-27-2021, 12:37 PM
Luka is perfect to carry the Dirk legacy on. He'll be the best at his position, will have incredible numbers and may even lead the team to some Top seeds. But, he'll fail like Dirk did, to lesser opponents. He'll do it with stacked teams and he'll do it with lesser, but solid teams. He'll prolly never ring in Dallas til he's past-prime and with a team loaded with other past-prime, but hungry, vets that will push him over the hump to prevent himself landing in the "Best to Never Ring" competition. He'll nab an MVP or two, but isn't an alpha. Just like Dirk.

He's a great fit for Dallas and their fans. Unrealistic expectations checked into reality with routine failure after routine failure. LOL Dallas.

Neo.
07-27-2021, 12:42 PM
Luka is perfect to carry the Dirk legacy on. He'll be the best at his position, will have incredible numbers and may even lead the team to some Top seeds. But, he'll fail like Dirk did, to lesser opponents. He'll do it with stacked teams and he'll do it with lesser, but solid teams. He'll prolly never ring in Dallas til he's past-prime and with a team loaded with other past-prime, but hungry, vets that will push him over the hump to prevent himself landing in the "Best to Never Ring" competition. He'll nab an MVP or two, but isn't an alpha. Just like Dirk.

He's a great fit for Dallas and their fans. Unrealistic expectations checked into reality with routine failure after routine failure. LOL Dallas.

nice attempt at a troll job, but ultimately a failure, like most of your posts in general :tu

Michael Jordan.
07-27-2021, 12:48 PM
i guess shooting 50% and 41% from the 3 is bad now... Fucking Luka, should have passed the ball to Finney Smith, Zingis Pingis, Powel and Hardaway more so they could brick more shots.
Funny that most of them averaged more shot attempts in the regular season and more points. Yet, Luka took what, 8 more shots a game in the playoffs? Luka Dunpasstheball ain’t a winning strategy

Michael Jordan.
07-27-2021, 12:56 PM
i guess shooting 50% and 41% from the 3 is bad now... Fucking Luka, should have passed the ball to Finney Smith, Zingis Pingis, Powel and Hardaway more so they could brick more shots.
So last year with damn near the same team, you said Porzingis being out cost them the series. Well, he played this year.....So he was help last year but not this year

MultiTroll
07-27-2021, 12:57 PM
nice attempt at a troll job, but ultimately a failure, like most of your posts in general :tu
:lol DMC / False Charge Chunko nicely summarized.

MultiTroll
07-27-2021, 12:58 PM
So last year with damn near the same team, you said Porzingis being out cost them the series. Well, he played this year.....So he was help last year but not this year
Injury.
Sure he played, but he has to gimp around.
Was not a solid contributor by any means.
Certainly not Lukas fault.

Michael Jordan.
07-27-2021, 01:01 PM
Injury.
Sure he played, but he has to gimp around.
Was not a solid contributor by any means.
Certainly not Lukas fault.
I mean, he has been injured plenty of times before. He was well enough to play this series.

Texas_Ranger
07-27-2021, 01:31 PM
So last year with damn near the same team, you said Porzingis being out cost them the series. Well, he played this year.....So he was help last year but not this year

i dont believe i said that with Porzingis they would have won last year. Also, last years Porzingis looked actually good. This season he looked like a role player.

lefty
07-27-2021, 01:47 PM
https://twitter.com/mavs_ffl/status/1420033474195566597

Neo.
07-27-2021, 01:56 PM
Funny that most of them averaged more shot attempts in the regular season and more points. Yet, Luka took what, 8 more shots a game in the playoffs? Luka Dunpasstheball ain’t a winning strategy

:lmao werent you the one arguing that harden > lebron

regardless id say a worse strategy than taking a lot of shots, is giving a top 3 player a garbage team and expecting him to win a championship with it

Chucho
07-27-2021, 02:09 PM
nice attempt at a troll job, but ultimately a failure, like most of your posts in general :tu

Aww, the butthurt is strong with you. :lol

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-27-2021, 03:16 PM
Luka is certainly better than Durant.

Isitjustme?
07-27-2021, 03:31 PM
I don’t know... that Trae Young kid shows no fear.

:lol still salty about being wrong about that

Neo.
07-27-2021, 03:38 PM
Aww, the butthurt is strong with you. :lol

:lmao the lack of self-awareness from bitter spurfan here

Thanos
07-27-2021, 03:41 PM
On 30 shots lol
Now do Harden’s playoff numbers

DMC
07-27-2021, 04:40 PM
Kiwi literally tore up that punk ass white boy & sent him packing 6 weeks ago :sleep


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_OUvWb9S7o

Giannis :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYrjnMgDDGI


...and Servant literally changed conferences after Kiwi shutdown the Oracle.:toast

If we are counting people's "feeling great" moments only, Greg Oden needs to be considered.

JamStone
07-28-2021, 09:47 AM
:lol still salty about being wrong about that

Help me out. How was I wrong about it?

Michael Jordan.
07-28-2021, 04:08 PM
Now do Harden’s playoff numbers
Why would I defend him now?

Michael Jordan.
07-28-2021, 04:08 PM
Luka is certainly better than Durant.
Lol no

Michael Jordan.
07-28-2021, 04:09 PM
:lmao werent you the one arguing that harden > lebron

regardless id say a worse strategy than taking a lot of shots, is giving a top 3 player a garbage team and expecting him to win a championship with it
So Luka makes no one better. I see. Need to get out the first round at least

Neo.
07-28-2021, 05:06 PM
So Luka makes no one better. I see. Need to get out the first round at least

then by that logic, if mike truly was the goat, he should have been beating boston, milwaukee and detroit his first 7 years. but he didnt make anyone better. i see.

Isitjustme?
07-29-2021, 07:12 PM
Help me out. How was I wrong about it?

Pretending in the age of Ben Simmons that being fearless is not important for an NBA player. Giannis was about the same free throw % as that coward before this playoffs and he never stopped calling for the ball and attacking. Same thing with players like Trae Young. His fearlessness is one of his biggest strengths. Curry having the courage to take his logo shots was a big factor in his changing the game too.

JamStone
07-29-2021, 11:29 PM
Pretending in the age of Ben Simmons that being fearless is not important for an NBA player. Giannis was about the same free throw % as that coward before this playoffs and he never stopped calling for the ball and attacking. Same thing with players like Trae Young. His fearlessness is one of his biggest strengths. Curry having the courage to take his logo shots was a big factor in his changing the game too.

The Ben Simmons example which you used before is stupid. He’s scared to shoot free throws because he sucks at shooting. If he were a good shooter, he wouldn’t be scared to shoot free throws. If he was a 90% free throw shooter, think he’d be scared to shoot? Get fucking better and you won’t be scared. Freak showed fear in the first couple rounds of the playoffs. He started making more free throws and guess what, he wasn’t so scared. Making free throws makes a difference.

You can call Kobe a lot of things, inefficient chucker, rapist, dead, but from the moment he was in the league, even from the Utah airballs, he showed no fear. Did that mean he was better than Shaq, who like Ben Simmons, didn’t want no part of clutch free throw shooting? You ready to admit Kobe was the one who carried the Lakers to that three peat because of “no fear.”

No fear is a stupid measure of greatness. Just like I said the first time it was brought up, if no fear was a marker for greatness, Antoine Walker would be a fucking top ten player ever. Michael Jordan admitted he was “scared” of Hakeem. Google it. Guess Jordan is out of the GOAT conversation.

Fucking no fear. What an absolutely fucking moronic argument.

Kawhitstorm
08-01-2021, 11:20 PM
it would have been fun seeing Kawhi being defended by real defenders, like Luka was.

You mean to tell me Puka is no where in Kawhi’s league when it comes to defense? I rest my case.

Neo.
08-02-2021, 12:26 AM
lol thinking kawhi is in lukas league in any other basketball skill other than defense

Rummpd
08-02-2021, 04:50 AM
The Ben Simmons example which you used before is stupid. He’s scared to shoot free throws because he sucks at shooting. If he were a good shooter, he wouldn’t be scared to shoot free throws. If he was a 90% free throw shooter, think he’d be scared to shoot? Get fucking better and you won’t be scared. Freak showed fear in the first couple rounds of the playoffs. He started making more free throws and guess what, he wasn’t so scared. Making free throws makes a difference.

You can call Kobe a lot of things, inefficient chucker, rapist, dead, but from the moment he was in the league, even from the Utah airballs, he showed no fear. Did that mean he was better than Shaq, who like Ben Simmons, didn’t want no part of clutch free throw shooting? You ready to admit Kobe was the one who carried the Lakers to that three peat because of “no fear.”

No fear is a stupid measure of greatness. Just like I said the first time it was brought up, if no fear was a marker for greatness, Antoine Walker would be a fucking top ten player ever. Michael Jordan admitted he was “scared” of Hakeem. Google it. Guess Jordan is out of the GOAT conversation.

Fucking no fear. What an absolutely fucking moronic argument.

Sublime statement - as those that say "no fear" are not implying shooting blindly like A. Walker - it simply means not afraid to step up and showing up in playoffs - Manu had it, Kobe had it, Jordan had it, Trae Young early in career and Luka do seem to be showing the trait as well. They put up historic performances early in careers. (Right now Luka is 16 and 0 in international ball with friggin Slovenia.) Does not mean they will not fail on occassion but don't bet against them long term.

Neo.
08-02-2021, 10:00 AM
Sublime statement - as those that say "no fear" are not implying shooting blindly like A. Walker - it simply means not afraid to step up and showing up in playoffs - Manu had it, Kobe had it, Jordan had it, Trae Young early in career and Luka do seem to be showing the trait as well. They put up historic performances early in careers. (Right now Luka is 16 and 0 in international ball with friggin Slovenia.) Does not mean they will not fail on occassion but don't bet against them long term.

then saying that such a player has "no fear" is incorrect, because they then do have a fear of repeatedly taking and missing stupid shots they shouldnt be taking.

JamStone
08-03-2021, 08:30 AM
Sublime statement - as those that say "no fear" are not implying shooting blindly like A. Walker - it simply means not afraid to step up and showing up in playoffs - Manu had it, Kobe had it, Jordan had it, Trae Young early in career and Luka do seem to be showing the trait as well. They put up historic performances early in careers. (Right now Luka is 16 and 0 in international ball with friggin Slovenia.) Does not mean they will not fail on occassion but don't bet against them long term.

Well, why did you initially praise Trae Young for having no fear (oh btw in comparison with and distinction from Luka Doncic) in the first place, months ago?

Was it because Trae had no fear as a skinny 6’1 guard to battle and bang for rebounds in the paint with the bigs? Was it because he fearlessly decided to take the defensive responsibility to lock down Giannis? Was it because he wasn’t scared to hold a pick against a big like Bobby Portis and get steamrolled?

No. Because he didn’t do those things. You praised Trae Young for “shooting blindly” and chucking 30 foot, 40 foot, halfcourt shots and making them. Chucking shots does not even show no fear imo. Chucking shots and making them shows great skill. Not no fear. Yet that’s what you were impressed by and why you made a reference to “no fear.” And that’s why I brought up guys like Fatoine Walker and JR Smith. Plenty of guys chuck. Making those shots doesn’t mean you have no fear. Means you shot it good, for that game, for that moment.

Most great players aren’t scared to take the shot, aren’t scared of the moment. And doing things that you’re good at isn’t scary. Why would it be? Why would a great shooter be scared to shoot? Shooters shoot. Why would a good post player be scared to post? Watching Shaq in his prime backing down a guy, pivoting, clearing his defender with his 350 pounds, two hand dunking, did you say, “wow, Shaq showed no fear on that play?”

Why exactly did Trae Young show “no fear” to you?

Rummpd
08-03-2021, 09:40 AM
Well, why did you initially praise Trae Young for having no fear (oh btw in comparison with and distinction from Luka Doncic) in the first place, months ago?

Was it because Trae had no fear as a skinny 6’1 guard to battle and bang for rebounds in the paint with the bigs? Was it because he fearlessly decided to take the defensive responsibility to lock down Giannis? Was it because he wasn’t scared to hold a pick against a big like Bobby Portis and get steamrolled?

No. Because he didn’t do those things. You praised Trae Young for “shooting blindly” and chucking 30 foot, 40 foot, halfcourt shots and making them. Chucking shots does not even show no fear imo. Chucking shots and making them shows great skill. Not no fear. Yet that’s what you were impressed by and why you made a reference to “no fear.” And that’s why I brought up guys like Fatoine Walker and JR Smith. Plenty of guys chuck. Making those shots doesn’t mean you have no fear. Means you shot it good, for that game, for that moment.

Most great players aren’t scared to take the shot, aren’t scared of the moment. And doing things that you’re good at isn’t scary. Why would it be? Why would a great shooter be scared to shoot? Shooters shoot. Why would a good post player be scared to post? Watching Shaq in his prime backing down a guy, pivoting, clearing his defender with his 350 pounds, two hand dunking, did you say, “wow, Shaq showed no fear on that play?”

Why exactly did Trae Young show “no fear” to you?


Simply put he plays with no apparent fear of consequences sorry you are so blinded you cannot see the obvious. Kid is fabulous and led a team to ECF with little or no help.

Killakobe81
08-03-2021, 12:39 PM
Luka is my dude ...got those that argue there is no comparison to Bird how about taking a underdog team (Slovenia/Indiana State) to a championship game with a squad that couldn't do shit on big stage without him?
Its not just a feel but also impact ...wgaf if they both are white and if games are not identical ...Luka has some similar traits. HE may be the baddest white boy since Bird ...and he just might be better when its all said and done.

JamStone
08-03-2021, 01:42 PM
Simply put he plays with no apparent fear of consequences sorry you are so blinded you cannot see the obvious. Kid is fabulous and led a team to ECF with little or no help.

Trae is a good player. You elevate him prematurely because he makes a bunch of 35+ foot three pointers and bows at MSG. Plus you give him more credit than he deserves.

In the Knicks series, he shot under 42% from the field, under 30% from three in the Atlanta wins. In the series clinching game, he went 10-for-28 for 36 points while Capela, Collins, Hunter went 17-for-27 for 42 points. Kobesque if you will.

In the Philly series, in the Atlanta wins, he shot under 33% from the field, including 5-for-fucking-23 in the series clincher and again under 30% from three. Seems like in the games the Hawks actually won, he was simply a fucking chucker. Fortunately for him and the Hawks, Kevin Heurter and Danilo Gallinari saved his ass in the series decider.

Yeah... little to no help. You were too busy with his balls in your mouth to realize what an efficient chucker he was being most of the post season because his team kept advancing. He was no better than Kobe or Iverson on their bad days. Guys you’d for sure ridicule for their inefficient chucking had it been them. For some reason, you love to love the hairy soap head rat face.