Stein: Spurs interested in Kuzma

[NASpurs]

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[Leetonidas]

Probably comes down to who Bron and AD want. If they want DD over Hield, Demar will be a Laker and we'll get their trash in return :lol

Laker fans are so sure they can get Demar for the MLE but I don't think there's any chance he's taking less than 18-20M per

[DesignatedT]

Kuzma, KCP and 22 for DeMar and Lonnie.

[MultiTroll]

FOH i'd rather he walk then that Flaker deal.

[4lifecowboy]

Kuzma, KCP and 22 for DeMar and Lonnie.

White before Lonnie....

[DesignatedT]

or Harrell instead of KCP. You only have Kuzma for a couple years at a reasonable deal and you get the 22 this year for DeMar who is just going to walk.

Spurs should try to get multiple future firsts for DeMar and then turn around and trade future firsts and Murray, Walker, etc. to Philly for Simmons.

[gospursgojas]

Much rather have Hield than Kuzma

[tmtcsc]

No...please...no

[szkorhetz]

I don't get why the Lakers want DDR, such an awkward fit, Hield is far superior in this regard

[Prime BEEF]

Don’t want kuzma. Hope this doesn’t happen

[exstatic]

Much rather have Hield than Kuzma

His value was high when he was busting 43% of his treys. If you take 100 treys, that’s 129 points. He dropped to 39%, and lost huge value. Take 100 treys at that rate, and you score 117 points. That’s a huge drop in efficiency for a player who really does nothing else.

[gospursgojas]

His value was high when he was busting 43% of his treys. If you take 100 treys, that’s 129 points. He dropped to 39%, and lost huge value. Take 100 treys at that rate, and you score 117 points. That’s a huge drop in efficiency for a player who really does nothing else.

Now do Kuzma...

[exstatic]

Now do Kuzma...

I think everyone knows he’s not a sniper. :lol

36% - 100 shots 108 points.

[timvp]

I mean ........ I'd rather have Kuzma and his three-year, $39 million deal than Markkenen at ~$80 million or whatever it'll be.

[baseline bum]

Fuck me, Kuzma is dogshit. JFC the shit we're going to hear from Lakers fans if the Spurs deliver them DeRozan for that pos. Better get a couple of firsts out of it if they have to take Kuzma.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Trash. Don't take shit off the Lakers hands it'll only help them cheat to steal another franchise player like fat fuk Zion, etc

[baseline bum]

I mean ........ I'd rather have Kuzma and his three-year, $39 million deal than Markkenen at ~$80 million or whatever it'll be.

It's like saying you'd rather have HIV instead of syphilis.

[baseline bum]

I mean ........ I'd rather have Kuzma and his three-year, $39 million deal than Markkenen at ~$80 million or whatever it'll be.

It's like saying you'd rather have HIV instead of syphilis.

[Mr. Body]

Fuck me, Kuzma is dogshit. JFC the shit we're going to hear from Lakers fans if the Spurs deliver them DeRozan for that pos. Better get a couple of firsts out of it if they have to take Kuzma.

It'll be slightly amusing to see the media calling DeRozan the #82 player in the NBA to suddenly saying he's one of the greatest players in the league.

[gospursgojas]

I mean ........ I'd rather have Kuzma and his three-year, $39 million deal than Markkenen at ~$80 million or whatever it'll be.

Why bring Lauri back up? I was getting used to not hearing his name over and over. We already have Luka.

[SAGirl]

Not a Kuzma fan but I do like picking up assets for Demar. Also, I think Kuzma may crush the Samanic dream if he doesn’t train like his career depends on it. Kuzma may slide into Gay’s spot if Samanic isn’t ready to play.

[exstatic]

His advanced numbers are shit. In addition, his comps on career win shares include Stromile Swift. :lol

[SAGirl]

He could be used as ballast in other trades if the Spurs started to get into that aspect of the GM job. I think any team would rather pick up some assets for Demar than not.

[Robz4000]

:vomit:

[JuneJive]

Weren't the Spurs high on Kuzma back when he was drafted? Could see a revival.
If DDR really wants to go to LA then I think they'd oblige him.

[SAGirl]

His advanced numbers are shit. In addition, his comps on career win shares include Stromile Swift. :lol
Would be tank commander if minutes aren’t reigned in. I suppose he could at least rehab his shooting. Trying to think of any upsides here.

[rjv]

i don't like kuzma in the least bit, especially if it means losing the 12th and why would the lakers be looking to dump kuzma otherwise? they already got rejected by the pacers because they wanted the 13th pick in exchange for kuzma.

[SAGirl]

I mean ........ I'd rather have Kuzma and his three-year, $39 million deal than Markkenen at ~$80 million or whatever it'll be.
This is the meltdown you were looking for. More to come. :dizzy

[timvp]

It's like saying you'd rather have HIV instead of syphilis.

Tbh :lol

[spurspl]

I think everyone knows he’s not a sniper. :lol

36% - 100 shots 108 points.

djm - 31%
lonnie - 35%
white - 34%

and they all play on a positions that shooting 3s is much more important...so kuzmas 36 % as a PF isnt that bad tbh

[exstatic]

He could be used as ballast in other trades if the Spurs started to get into that aspect of the GM job. I think any team would rather pick up some assets for Demar than not.
I don’t want to carry cap weight for 10 years of meh assets just say we got something for DeRozan. Rip the band-aid off, and move on.

[rjv]

if the spurs can eventually get the 22nd out of this (and keep the 12th), i'd be willing to take kuzma on, especially if DDR has indicated to the spurs that he's strongly considering the MLE with the lakers. but this would also depend on who the lakers selected at 22.

[SAGirl]

i don't like kuzma in the least bit, especially if it means losing the 12th and why would the lakers be looking to dump kuzma otherwise? they already got rejected by the pacers because they wanted the 13th pick in exchange for kuzma.
No way in hell is 12 attached here. No way in hell. give me Kispert tbh and reject Kuzma.

I think that’s a nonstarter. At most it should be Lakers giving up some asset. Kuzma is not an asset. He’s filler.

[baseline bum]

His advanced numbers are shit. In addition, his comps on career win shares include Stromile Swift. :lol

Don't even need to look at the advanced numbers. Dude shot 29% and 17% from the three against Phoenix in a series the Lakers really needed him in once Davis broke down.

[BacktoBasics]

if the spurs can eventually get the 22nd out of this (and keep the 12th), i'd be willing to take kuzma on, especially if DDR has indicated to the spurs that he's strongly considering the MLE with the lakers. but this would also depend on who the lakers selected at 22.
This is really the only practical way to do this. No way you part with 12 and no way you part with anyone other than ddr.

We can hate ddr all we want but he’s infinitely better than Kuz and anyone we’d get at 22 barring a Diamond in the rough.

[SAGirl]

I don’t want to carry cap weight for 10 years of meh assets just say we got something for DeRozan. Rip the band-aid off, and move on.
Maybe I am being naive but I am assuming Kuzma isn’t the main asset here. It would be 22 in this draft. Maybe pick Murphy 3 there or Davion Mitchell or someone.

[baseline bum]

if the spurs can eventually get the 22nd out of this (and keep the 12th), i'd be willing to take kuzma on, especially if DDR has indicated to the spurs that he's strongly considering the MLE with the lakers. but this would also depend on who the lakers selected at 22.

The Lakers are looking to dump Kuzma because he's trash, anyone would welcome getting DeRozan over him. If the Spurs deal with the Lakers I hope it's #22 plus their 2023 first round pick and Kuzma for DeRozan. Get one pick as a courtesy for giving them DeRozan and one in exchange for being stuck paying Kuzma $26 million net over the next two years.

[SAGirl]

if the spurs can eventually get the 22nd out of this (and keep the 12th), i'd be willing to take kuzma on, especially if DDR has indicated to the spurs that he's strongly considering the MLE with the lakers. but this would also depend on who the lakers selected at 22.
This is the deal I am considering plus I believe there’s value in pushing Samanic to compete for his minutes. If he can dethrone Kuzma and earn a rotation spot I’d consider it a double whammy success.

[jjspur]

This is really the only practical way to do this. No way you part with 12 and no way you part with anyone other than ddr.

We can hate ddr all we want but he’s infinitely better than Kuz and anyone we’d get at 22 barring a Diamond in the rough.
Yes he is better than Kuzma and he is probably better than Kuzma and the 22nd pick (whomever that may be) but do you really want to give up DeRozen for nothing ?

[Gibbz]

I want no part of Kuzma.

[gospursgojas]

Kuzma and the 22nd for JUST demar I can get behind. No way I’m adding the 12th and/or one of our young players go for him.

[NickiRasgo]

Kuzma, Harrell + 22th.

[chunticakes]

Yes he is better than Kuzma and he is probably better than Kuzma and the 22nd pick (whomever that may be) but do you really want to give up DeRozen for nothing ?

You mean like letting him walk which is going to happen anyways?

[Rocalcio]

But Kuzma isn’t interested in Spurs…

[cjw]

But Kuzma isn’t interested in Spurs…

He has no say in the matter over who pays him the next $39 million he’s due.

[Excessive Egotist]

It will be interesting to see who Lakers draft at 22. There is a good chance they'll be drafting for another team...

If the Lakers are covertly drafting for Spurs in per-arranged sign and trade for DeMar, Spurs could snag someone like Jalen Johnson, Kai Jones, or Zhaire Williams vis a vi 22nd pick. Kuzma plus one of those players is a solid. Plus, they'd still retain room for a max contract.

[Excessive Egotist]

Unlikely, but Spurs could end up picking 19, 21, and 22 tonight. 19 and 21 in a swap with Knicks. 22 as part of backroom DeMar/Kuzma pre FA deal.

[spurspl]

But Kuzma isn’t interested in Spurs…

wouldnt be so sure, hed get a bigger role here than in lakers. 1 or 2 yrs ago he was complaining about this.

[joeyjfive]

Y'all realize that if we get Kuzma we have a great shot at the 1st pick next year right? :lol

Bring him aboard I say.

[Russ]

This sounds like wishful thinking -- by the Lakers.

[R. DeMurre]

Kuzma's 3pt% was average last year, but unfortunately 36% is still better than what Walker, Vassell, KJ, White, Murray, or Luka shot last year...
But I think this trade would be for the draft pick, & not necessarily for Kuzma. If the Spurs are confident they can find something at #22 and can use Kuzma as a trade piece, I think it makes sense, but only in the scenario where they keep #12.

[rjv]

looks like sac town is going to save us from kuzma. deal seems to be eminent.

[rjv]

i guess this will leave DDR stranded at the altar.

[TheGreatYacht]

PATFO gonna walk away with nothing when DeRozan signs for that MLE. Poverty

[RC_Drunkford]

I don’t like Kuzma neither but if we only give up DeRozan and get a pick or 2 back do it. Better than letting him walk for nothing

[KobesAchilles]

Kuzma instantly becomes our best player. He is still young and on a bargain contract.

[Kindergarten Cop]

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[rjv]

woj is suggesting kuzma to LA and shams is reporting a separate LA deal with washington. westbrook is involved.

[td4mvp2k]

idc for kuz but dont trade just to trade to help the lakers

[LCM]

There is also talk of Kuzma, Harrell, KCP, and 22 to Wizards for Westbrook. Harrell opted into his one year deal, knows he'll be dealt.

[Leetonidas]

And here...we...go....

[exstatic]

Does anyone have a Bobby-Marks type of answer to what happens to cap space/hold the next few years if we just lose Demar?

You can’t just leave it empty. There is a minimum payroll to meet, thanks to Donald Sterling. What you do is either sign a decent FA, or rent it out for two years, until the next good FA class in 2023. Take on unattractive contracts like Wiggins.

[RC_Drunkford]

Lakers are definitely making one of these moves. I’d love to see Westbrook playing for them. Taking dumb shots in crunch time, LeBron would look at him like JR Smith :lol none of these players will make them better. Also the Clippers and Bulls are heavily interested in DeRozan, so it’s a bidding war

[exstatic]

There is also talk of Kuzma, Harrell, KCP, and 22 to Wizards for Westbrook. Harrell opted into his one year deal, knows he'll be dealt.

Good. We can put an end to this horrible trade proposal, and the Lakers get worse with another poor shooter.

[Kurik]

Can someone explain why Harrell wouldn’t opt out? I’d assume he could get a bigger contract but maybe I’m wrong.

[R. DeMurre]

The Golden State Warriors basically assumed the 76ers’ offer as a joke. The Sixers asked for Andrew Wiggins, James Wiseman, the Nos. 7 and 14 picks in tonight’s NBA draft along with two future first-rounders in exchange for Ben Simmons, according to multiple sources. The Warriors quickly turned down the offer (https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/76ers-ben-simmons-trade-offer-warriors-nba-draft-20210729.html?utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=edit_social_share_twitter_traffic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=&utm_term=&int_promo=).
– via Keith Pompey @ The Philadelphia Inquirer (https://www.inquirer.com/sixers/76ers-ben-simmons-trade-offer-warriors-nba-draft-20210729.html?utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=edit_social_share_twitter_traffic&utm_medium=social&utm_content=&utm_term=&int_promo=)

:lol

[John B]

In fairness, Lakers is so bad developing their talents snd players become much better elsewhere, Ingram, Randle, D’Angelo, Lonzo, Zubac. It’s ridiculous. Yes I would welcome Kuzma with a chip on his shoulder, plus whatever I can get for Demar who’s walking anyways. Harrell too and THT (and possibly #22 for Kai). This team would be hungry next season.

[rjv]

kuzma to the wiz, westbrook to the lakers.

[mo7888]

I'd rather have Markannen than Kuzma (I think there's a little more upside there) now the Lakers attach other assets then that might tip the balance in my eyes.

[R. DeMurre]

There is also talk of Kuzma, Harrell, KCP, and 22 to Wizards for Westbrook. Harrell opted into his one year deal, knows he'll be dealt.


My god, that's 4/5ths of a line up that wins 18 games in a season... Is Washington that desperate to get rid of Westbrook?

[spurraider21]

:lmao

[LCM]

Good. We can put an end to this horrible trade proposal, and the Lakers get worse with another poor shooter.

Shams and Woj are both confirming the Lakers/Wizards parameters for the Westbrook to Lakers deal. Sacramento back to square one over where they could move Hield. Buecher has said that Westbrook would stay if Beal stayed in DC. Beal is dragging his feet, but if Westbrook is leaving, Beal isn't far behind.

[Robz4000]

:lol please let that trade happen

[cd98]

My god, that's 4/5ths of a line up that wins 18 games in a season... Is Washington that desperate to get rid of Westbrook?

That's probably what it costs to match Westbrook's salary.

[Mugen]

I'd love the Westbrook deal to go down and Demar to sign there for the MLE tbh :lol

[SAGirl]

Shams and Woj are both confirming the Lakers/Wizards parameters for the Westbrook to Lakers deal. Sacramento back to square one over where they could move Hield. Buecher has said that Westbrook would stay if Beal stayed in DC. Beal is dragging his feet, but if Westbrook is leaving, Beal isn't far behind.
Beal is leaving. GsW and others back to the phones.

[cjw]

PATFO gonna walk away with nothing when DeRozan signs for that MLE. Poverty

Cap space is something when not many teams have it

[John B]

I swear with all these deals and Demar walks for nothing :bang

[R. DeMurre]

After all of that crying about Durant being disloyal & joining a superteam, Westbrook is trying to leave his third team in three years and.... join a superteam.

[John B]

Cap space is something when not many teams have it
Saving it for Patty’s loyalty contract :bang

[cd98]

I swear with all these deals and Demar walks for nothing :bang

Well it's lots of cap space if he does.

[Mugen]

As long as Fatty, Derozan, and Rudy are all gone, I'd be relatively happy with the offseason. I'd sacrifice all 3 still being with the team if it meant the old man retired but we know that ain't happening :lol

[spurraider21]

i hope that westbrook deal goes down just so we dont make a move for that trash Kuzma

but the fact that our FO was interested in him further evidences their incompetence

[SAGirl]

I swear with all these deals and Demar walks for nothing :bang
Should have sent him to Orlando when they had the chance last season.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs better get a pick out of DeRozan. If we end up doing a sign-and-Trade just to get Markkanen I‘ma be pissed

[John B]

Well it's lots of cap space if he does.
I surely hope they’re saving it all to get a Collins, because Wright has been baaadd

[KingKev]

His value was high when he was busting 43% of his treys. If you take 100 treys, that’s 129 points. He dropped to 39%, and lost huge value. Take 100 treys at that rate, and you score 117 points. That’s a huge drop in efficiency for a player who really does nothing else.

Jeeze you just took analytics to a new level.

[NASpurs]

:lol the implosion of the Lakers is going to be hilarious

[Fusternino]

Westbrook bringing back more than DDR in a trade.

LOL.

[TheGreatYacht]

Cap space is something when not many teams have it
Spurs aren't getting anyone good in free agency man. Collins was the only player worth paying and the Hawks will match it 100%. Pass on overpaying Markannen...

[TheGreatYacht]

i hope that westbrook deal goes down just so we dont make a move for that trash Kuzma

but the fact that our FO was interested in him further evidences their incompetence
Patfo fluffers (not you) know no boundaries :lol they were pretending to like that scrub just 30min ago

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Should not deal with the Lakers unless we get multiple first round picks and bleed their future dry.

FTL

[cjw]

Spurs aren't getting anyone good in free agency man. Collins was the only player worth paying and the Hawks will match it 100%. Pass on overpaying Markannen...

You can do a lot of other things with cap space than sign free agents

[cjw]

i hope that westbrook deal goes down just so we dont make a move for that trash Kuzma

but the fact that our FO was interested in him further evidences their incompetence

The Wizards can still move Kuzma. They’re not acquiring him because they’re high on him. They’re doing it because he’s literally the only thing that makes the numbers work.

[NASpurs]

I swear if we re-sign Demar...

[Kindergarten Cop]

Beal is leaving. GsW and others back to the phones.

Woj is actually reporting that this trade was done to justify KEEPING Beal, not trading him.

[NASpurs]

The Wizards can still move Kuzma. They’re not acquiring him because they’re high on him. They’re doing it because he’s literally the only thing that makes the numbers work.

Beal and Demar wouldn't be that bad of a duo.

[slick'81]

Westbrook bringing back more than DDR in a trade.

LOL.


Spurs own fault tbh. They wanted to do right by ddr

[T Park]

Demar and Washington have mutual interest. Wouldnt say Washington is out of the equation just yet.

[Mr. Body]

Beal and Demar wouldn't be that bad of a duo.

This. Westbrook and Beal both were heavy ball users. DDR and Beal could play off each other much better.

[mo7888]

Beal and Demar wouldn't be that bad of a duo.

It was reported there was mutual interest between ddr and Washington so, it may end up a 3 team deal with ddr going there...we probably get better assets from them than the lakers too.

[tbdog]

Essentially the Lakers have 3 tradable contracts. So it's 2 of KCP/Harrell/Kuzma to match DDR discount.

[Kurgan]

Spurs fans will be disappointed when the return on Demar isn't going to be what they expect

[LCM]

If DeRozen is S&T to Washington, is Rui or Denny the target of the return?

[NASpurs]

Welcome back Davis!














:lol

[TheChillFactor]

If DeRozen is S&T to Washington, is Rui or Denny the target of the return?

lmao duuuuuuuuuuuude!

[Kurgan]

If DeRozen is S&T to Washington, is Rui or Denny the target of the return?

Washington isn't giving up either for Demar.

[mo7888]

If DeRozen is S&T to Washington, is Rui or Denny the target of the return?

I would think so along with their 1st or the lakers 1st if they do that Westbrook trade.

[TD 21]

If DeRozen is S&T to Washington, is Rui or Denny the target of the return?

Don't know where this mutual interest rumor is coming from, but no. It'd probably be Kuzma, one of Cadlwell-Pope/Harrell (Wizards would likely have to find/incentivize a third team to take whichever) and possibly a minor asset like a future 2nd.

[Mr. Body]

If DeRozen is S&T to Washington, is Rui or Denny the target of the return?

Thomas Bryant, hopefully, if anything. Man, that's one ugly roster. I have no idea how they made the playoffs other than being in the East.

[exstatic]

If DeRozen is S&T to Washington, is Rui or Denny the target of the return?

Probably Deni. He didn’t set the world on fire last season, but the Spurs liked him in the run up to last years draft.

[Mugen]

Did I miss why Demar would go to the Wizards in a S&T? I mean he's dumb but he's not that dumb :lol

[Kurgan]

I would think so along with their 1st or the lakers 1st if they do that Westbrook trade.

Demar is not bringing back a first or a youth prospect. If he had that kind of value, Spurs would have already traded him.

[mo7888]

Demar is not bringing back a first or a youth prospect. If he had that kind of value, Spurs would have already traded him.

It won't be long before we find out....

[TheGreatYacht]

Where tf are people getting this DDR/Wizards interest from? :lol Can't find anything on it...

[stephen jackson]

Can they turn around and send Kus and tres back to us for demar ?

[mo7888]

Where tf are people getting this DDR/Wizards interest from? :lol Can't find anything on it...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news4sanantonio.com/amp/sports/report-wizards-derozan-have-mutual-interest

[stephen jackson]

Where tf are people getting this DDR/Wizards interest from? :lol Can't find anything on it...
Been out

[NASpurs]

Where tf are people getting this DDR/Wizards interest from? :lol Can't find anything on it...

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/report-wizards-derozan-have-mutual-interest

[Kindergarten Cop]

Where tf are people getting this DDR/Wizards interest from? :lol Can't find anything on it...

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[TheGreatYacht]

Would love Gafford back in a trade the most. He played great for them when given minutes

[mo7888]

Would love Gafford back in a trade the most. He played great for them when given minutes

I agree with that...I like him alot off the bench...hard nosed guy...we can use testosterone...

[tbdog]

DDR and Beal would be a good tandem in the East. With Bertans that's a nice punch they have. Unfortunately their D would be fun to play against.

[slick'81]

Yea wizarda are dmb enough to take derozan

[MVPCues]

I don't get why the Lakers want DDR, such an awkward fit, Hield is far superior in this regard

My thoughts as well. Maybe so Bron can have someone he is referring to when he says he is purposely not throwing his teammates under the bus.

[MannyIsGod]

While I don't want kuzma, I'd rather get him in a trade if DeRozan is going to the Lakers than get nothing. Am asset is always better than nothing.

[rastaspur]

No. Just an inefficient low iq chucker who is a traffic cone on defense. Do not want.

[Rito3d30]

It's over
Westbrook to LAL

[CGD]

Westbrook to LAL

I think this means the WAS DeRozen interest could be real. Much much better for Spurs

[gospursgojas]

I think this means the WAS DeRozen interest could be real. Much much better for Spurs

Give us back Bertans and the Japanese kid for Demar. And the 15th.

[CGD]

Give us back Bertans and the Japanese kid for Demar. And the 15th.

Yes, though, I think Spurs liked Deni last year. We couldn’t get this pick tho bc of S&T rules, but maybe a future one

[gospursgojas]

Yes, though, I think Spurs liked Deni last year. We couldn’t get this pick tho bc of S&T rules, but maybe a future one

Good call on pick rule. Thanks

[gospursgojas]

Yes, though, I think Spurs liked Deni last year. We couldn’t get this pick tho bc of S&T rules, but maybe a future one

Good call on pick rule. Thanks

[Rocalcio]

He has no say in the matter over who pays him the next $39 million he’s due.

Sure, but that’s the kind of guy who, if unhappy, can be a pain in the ass.

[CGD]

Good call on pick rule. Thanks

Now with Kuz over there i wonder if they do Kuz + Deni instead of Bert.

Anything to salvage this draft night please!

[kobyz]

I can see Murray for Kuzma

[lmbebo]

Can Kuz still be dealt? Maybe a S&T with DDR to Was... I dunno, anything better than last night...

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Give us back Bertans and the Japanese kid for Demar. And the 15th.

I'd rather we deal with WAS then the Lakers. But I'll actually be surprised at this point to see this team do any meaningful deals.

The Spurs need to do something to redeem themselves this offseason after that draft day debacle.