Spurs Select G Josh Primo in the 2021 NBA Draft (12th Overall)

[BatManu20]

Welp… wanted Sengun.

[timvp]

OMG :pctoss

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao

[lmbebo]

wth.... trade?!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Well this'll be a bigger meltdown than expected.

[Russ]

He's not listed in the two rounds of the NBADraft.net mock.

Could they have traded down?

[kobyz]

Klay Thompson/Rip Hamilton potential

[Russ]

In the Spurs we trust.

[tonight...you]

I am... confused.

[Budkin]

SpursTalk literally crashed after the pick. :lol

[rjv]

This was so shocking, the site crashed.

[vy65]

Does this mean we have to send grandpa to a home?

[cd98]

Laughing stock of the league. Please tell me that Pop forgot to leave a babysitter for Wright on draft night.

[Chomag]

Dude is a late second rounder if that and thus FO picks him with top lottery talent on the board!! I just can't with this FO!!!!

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b5a14c434d1bf6f788b01050e9bd215e/tenor.gif?itemid=16630604

[K...]

i will be happy if this is the first move in a trade of two other guards

[Shohoku High]

Apparently had a really good combine. A bit of a reach at 12. Expected to be 20-30 range.
Youngest player in the draft, born on December 24, 2002.
6'5" height, 6'9.25" wingspan.
Can shoot 3s. Can guard 1-3.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I’m watching his highlights and this is a good pick. He can shoot spot up 3s and has good defensive potential. He’s only 18 so he’ll grow. He could walk up tomorrow and be a more net positive player than _eRozan. Can’t believe I’m saying this but he’s got potential

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I’m watching his highlights and this is a good pick. He can shoot spot up 3s and has good defensive potential. He’s only 18 so he’ll grow. He could walk up tomorrow and be a more net positive player than _eRozan. Can’t believe I’m saying this but he’s got potential

[RC_Drunkford]

He's not listed in the two rounds of the NBADraft.net mock.

Could they have traded down?


:pop: "It wouldn't be fair to the kid. He has great character so we wanted to draft him 12th before Kings draft him at 39"

[Rummpd]

Farce of FO tops itself what a frigging joke ESPN had 26th rated on board

[JeffDuncan]

What? Hello? Who is this? What’s that you say? What? Who? When? What?

[Spurs9]

HEB got their guy!

[spurs1990]

SEC! SEC! Alabama blue chip. Wait we're a football team, right?

[mudyez]

I'm just hating myself for hearing podcast after podcast just to get a feeling for who we could and should get. Then they select someone that never was mentioned.

I trust the Spurs here, but wonder about the trade down potential.

[J_Paco]

Beyond words how stupid that pick is. SMDH

[slick'81]

Wtf just happend? Werent you guys touting him as a 2nd rnd pick? Is this tony parker 2.0 or spurs fo gone straight retarded? What did i just witness? Spurs are a embarrassment

[Biggems]

So we go from Nephew a several years ago to Cousin tonight.

Honestly, I went over several prospects for this draft. Josh Cousin is one name I never even paid attention to.

I am dumbfounded.

[widowmaker]

They have lost their fucking minds. Wow!!!

[Biggems]

So we go from Nephew a several years ago to Cousin tonight.

Honestly, I went over several prospects for this draft. Josh Cousin is one name I never even paid attention to.

I am dumbfounded.

[GAustex]

Great pick for the Austin Spurs

[slick'81]

I mean hes young and will hopefully grow but why at 12? Did they figure with his name hed sell shirts in sa?

[cd98]

Maybe he submitted the wrong name. Maybe he was supposed to be the 2nd round pick and Wright just handed the wrong name.

[ducks]

https://dknation.draftkings.com/2021/7/29/22584650/nba-draft-2021-results-san-antonio-spurs-list-first-round-pick-josh-primo-scouting-report

[rastaspur]

I'm at u of alabama alum and have pretty much watched 90% of their games this year.

I think he can develop into a special player. That being said, that's years down the road.

I'm a huge fan of his but it's a real stretch to be drafting him at 12.

I'm thinking a trade happened or the spurs were going to trade back and draft him but thought he would be gone by then.

If he's kept and not traded it will take time but he will be considered on of the 10 best players of this draft in 5 years.. Super high character guy with good instincts/ bball iq. Great shot. Good form.

Can create, take his man off the dribble and has all the necessary defensive tools.

But, it's a stretch to pick him at 12 with the talent that was on the board.

[BatManu20]

Rockets taking Sengun. Of course he’s gonna be in our division lol.

[timvp]

Can't believe it, tbh. I heard of a Primo and Spurs connection but assumed it was the second round :lmao :cry :lol :depressed

[Chomag]

Seriously.... If this is who they wanted you can't tell me they couldn't have traded down

[KlAWKLAMP Redemption]

WOW!!! They have lost all grip of reality.Why not pick a wanted prospect and leverage that to pick up additional assets instead of picking a 2nd rounder at best.To call this embarrassing is an understatement.

[rastaspur]

I'm at u of alabama alum and have pretty much watched 90% of their games this year.

I think he can develop into a special player. That being said, that's years down the road.

I'm a huge fan of his but it's a real stretch to be drafting him at 12.

I'm thinking a trade happened or the spurs were going to trade back and draft him but thought he would be gone by then.

If he's kept and not traded it will take time but he will be considered on of the 10 best players of this draft in 5 years.. Super high character guy with good instincts/ bball iq. Great shot. Good form.

Can create, take his man off the dribble and has all the necessary defensive tools.

But, it's a stretch to pick him at 12 with the talent that was on the board.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Can’t wait for Sengun to shit all over us while we have Primo

[dbestpro]

I actually feel sorry for this kid. He's gonna be hated more than Bryn Forbes. If we are gonna draft like this then maybe we should have tossed all those first round picks for Simmons.

[MultiTroll]

Have faith in Spurs drafting you critical idiots.

Just because the dictator has drug the org in loserdom does not mean the excellent draft finds won't continue.

I like the pick. Bookmark it.

[Degoat]

I called this a few weeks ago! Lol I know we’re shocked but if the spurs reached that high for him they must really believe in him, he models his game after Beal and Booker and has been training with bookers former coach earl Watson! I like it tbh, GSG!

[vy65]

Whoever said drafting Zairie at 12 would be malpractice, no. This, this is malpractice.

[pad300]

Hope you like the G-league kid, because you'll be there for 1 years minimum.

[NASpurs]

Spurs are so used to drafting late in the first round that they forgot they had the #12th pick this year. Senility is affecting this organization top to bottom.

[Russ]

Look at the bright side -- they probably would have taken him over Bouknight.

[BacktoBasics]

Maybe he submitted the wrong name. Maybe he was supposed to be the 2nd round pick and Wright just handed the wrong name.

This makes more sense than the actual pick.

[tbdog]

Firstly, typical Spurs keeping things under the radar
Secondly, massive reach. Like if this is the guy they wanted, surely the Spurs could have traded down, even for a second round pick to add to the roster.
Thirdly, Spurs are obvious confident where they are as a franchise. They are not going to compete or trade for a piece to contend in the next two season.

[FlAVaK]

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[tbdog]

Firstly, typical Spurs keeping things under the radar
Secondly, massive reach. Like if this is the guy they wanted, surely the Spurs could have traded down, even for a second round pick to add to the roster.
Thirdly, Spurs are obvious confident where they are as a franchise. They are not going to compete or trade for a piece to contend in the next two season.

[rastaspur]

I hope he makes everyone eat a big ole shit burger. Let's see it play out.

[JeffDuncan]

Maybe he submitted the wrong name. Maybe he was supposed to be the 2nd round pick and Wright just handed the wrong name.


You might be onto something there.

[dbestpro]

I actually feel sorry for this kid. He's gonna be hated more than Bryn Forbes. If we are gonna draft like this then maybe we should have tossed all those first round picks for Simmons.

[TheGreatYacht]

Short bus is already talking themselves into loving this scrub :lmao Some folks will remain delusional no matter what lmao

[Russ]

Kerr to Pop --- "Even though we're preparing for the Czech game, we should probably stay away from each other tonight, for the sake of confidences."

Pop -- (laughing) "Naw, man, don't worry about it."

[InRareForm]

Even a autopick can do a better job than this

[vy65]

We seriously need 6th street capital to Bobby Axelrod our front office. This is insane, like literally everyone (including the middle schoolers on this board) has said, trade down if he's your guy and get more value. That they didn't or, even worse, refused to means they need to get shit canned.

[slick'81]

Hope you like the G-league kid, because you'll be there for 1 years minimum.Shit maybe two. How does this pick actually help san antonio this season? More stash picks now in the lottery

[dbestpro]

I guess sometimes you have to hit rock bottom before you can climb back up. I have no doubt that Pop is trying to teach the world a lesson.

[Atl Spur]

Dude is a late second rounder if that and thus FO picks him with top lottery talent on the board!! I just can't with this FO!!!!

This won’t age well.......mark my words!

[cd98]

I mean the best I can find is that he is the youngest player in the draft, has a good jump shot, and was told he'd be a lottery pick if he played one more year before coming out. So I'm hoping they see this as an early lottery pick for next season. That said, it still doesn't explain not trading down. The Knicks were looking for a higher pick and hard not to think they could have traded and still got Primo.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

If the Spurs wanted to go for South Texas marketing as well as talent they could've taken Seguin Sengun... -_-

[CGD]

Disappointing. Why not trade down then and take the two Knicks picks instead? He’d sure as hell still be there.

[Atl Spur]

Shit maybe two. How does this pick actually help san antonio this season? More stash picks now in the lottery

Has to be some moves coming....

[Atl Spur]

Shit maybe two. How does this pick actually help san antonio this season? More stash picks now in the lottery

Has to be some moves coming....

[Rummpd]

Even if kid hits it is a sublime choice that could have been later but not expected from this lame FO probably influenced by a retired in place coach has completely failed last three years. Insanity rules SAS FO at best.

[Thunder1]

Really?...jeez..

[slick'81]

I get the whole well in next years draft hed be a top 10 pick. Ok but you got him at 12 and have no intention to play him soo why? IS derozan coming back and they didint want to over crowd the font court

[Atl Spur]

We draft well.

[cd98]

Oh boy are the Spurs going to get a failing draft grade tomorrow.

[daslicer]

I mean the best I can find is that he is the youngest player in the draft, has a good jump shot, and was told he'd be a lottery pick if he played one more year before coming out. So I'm hoping they see this as an early lottery pick for next season. That said, it still doesn't explain not trading down. The Knicks were looking for a higher pick and hard not to think they could have traded and still got Primo.

My brother is a hardcore Knicks fan and he was claiming there were rumors on the Knicks message boards of the Knicks trying to get the Spurs 12 pick and they were offering the 19th and Obi Toppin for it.

[8FOR!3]

Unless we don't bring Patty Mills back I don't see where he even fits in the rotation.

Murray/White
Walker/Primo
Johnson/Vassell
Samanic?/hopefully not Gay/Lyles/surely we don't bring DeRozan back to this roster...
Poeltl/Eubanks (maybe Dieng but I doubt we bring him back either tbh)

I wouldn't even bother trying to sign John Collins at this point we would be a transcending talent (Luka Doncic type) away from being a contender and Collins would ensure we're too good to get that type of talent in a draft.

[pad300]

Has to be some moves coming....

You trust this FO with trades and Free Agency?!?

[offset formation]

Rockets taking Sengun. Of course he’s gonna be in our division lol.

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[NASpurs]

Did the Spurs just select this kid with the #12th pick because it holds special value to him?

[rogcl1]

I hope this is Buford's pick and not Wright's. Come on summer league . Anxious to see him play.

[Russ]

Well, he does have a great name.

[spurraider21]

I’m watching his highlights and this is a good pick. He can shoot spot up 3s and has good defensive potential. He’s only 18 so he’ll grow. He could walk up tomorrow and be a more net positive player than _eRozan. Can’t believe I’m saying this but he’s got potential
Lol

[NASpurs]

Unless we don't bring Patty Mills back I don't see where he even fits in the rotation.

Murray/White
Walker/Primo
Johnson/Vassell
Samanic?/hopefully not Gay/Lyles/surely we don't bring DeRozan back to this roster...
Poeltl/Eubanks (maybe Dieng but I doubt we bring him back either tbh)

I wouldn't even bother trying to sign John Collins at this point we would be a transcending talent (Luka Doncic type) away from being a contender and Collins would ensure we're too good to get that type of talent in a draft.

Where's Tre Jones?

[DPG21920]

timvp How much has your faith in this FO been shaken? They are absolutely atrocious at asset management. They have shown absolutely no creativity at all.

They traded for vets instead of going young. Then they held onto DDR/Rudy until they had no value just to lose them for nothing vs setup their future better. Then they reach and dont trade back to get additional assets.

I have lost all faith in this FO ability to do anything outside the box or via trade/FA and now the draft takes a hit.

This kid could be MVP of the NBA and it still doesn’t change the fact that they were so wasteful with this pick and nuked their lottery pick value.

[tbdog]

Unless we don't bring Patty Mills back I don't see where he even fits in the rotation.

Murray/White
Walker/Primo
Johnson/Vassell
Samanic?/hopefully not Gay/Lyles/surely we don't bring DeRozan back to this roster...
Poeltl/Eubanks (maybe Dieng but I doubt we bring him back either tbh)

I wouldn't even bother trying to sign John Collins at this point we would be a transcending talent (Luka Doncic type) away from being a contender and Collins would ensure we're too good to get that type of talent in a draft.

Primo won't be in the rotation for about 2 years. He is 18 years old. They obviously know he won't be ready.

[offset formation]

Have faith in Spurs drafting you critical idiots.

Just because the dictator has drug the org in loserdom does not mean the excellent draft finds won't continue.

I like the pick. Bookmark it.

the thing is you and the Spurs may be spot on but he undoubtedly would have fallen to the late first round at minimum.

thus you take a Sengun or a Moses then take a bad contract from somebody in the bottom half of the first and trade them our 2nd rd pick (41) and you pick up both.

or hell trade back. pick up a future first or more second rounders and a player that can help.

would have been able to still get someone at 25 that you just got at 12.

this just doesn't make sense and that's in no way a slight on primo.

this is just stunning.

[Marcus Bryant]

Pop going with the first all-guard lineup in NBA history, apparently.

[jjspur]

5 questions

Is this pick for real ?
Did some 10 year old in New Jersey hijack the nba computers and make the pick for us ?
Are we really aiming for next years number 1 pick ?
Will any free agents want to come here when they see how our front office drafts ?
Can our second round pick be better than our 1st round pick .... I don't know about this front office any more.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

There's a reason Brian Wright was let go by the Pistons. There's also a reason Pop picked him up, and it wasn't for his eye for talent or running a front office. Just another disgusting effort by this clown front office.

[urunobili]

Time
To start think in accountability? Hopefully we’re proven wrong

[Russ]

Louis (Josh) Prima (Primo) sings it for Spurs fans -- "I Ain't Got Nobody"

RrJ7DQojzIY

[slick'81]

I hate to say it but this pick literally makes no fucking sense

[noob cake]

This is a galaxy brain move to be honest. Primo now knows that the org believes in him. Just from this fact, his skill is gonna increase by 50% overnight.

Had he been drafted at let's say 25-35 by trading down, this kid's confidence will be shot. He may end up like Fultz with the yips.

[Chinook]

Maybe they picked Primo because they know there's no way any team will demand him in a trade at this point.

[Mr. Body]

Apparently had a really good combine. A bit of a reach at 12. Expected to be 20-30 range.
Youngest player in the draft, born on December 24, 2002.
6'5" height, 6'9.25" wingspan.
Can shoot 3s. Can guard 1-3.

It's a good pick generally. He's a little baby and has a lot of room to develop, but there will always be a mystery of why they didn't trade down. Maybe they thought someone like Indiana or OKC would take him? Dunno.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

This is a disaster.

Time to face the music this FO is clueless

[R. DeMurre]

Well, this settles the BPA vs Position of Need debate. Apparently, it's neither.

[Kurgan]

timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) How much has your faith in this FO been shaken? They are absolutely atrocious at asset management. They have shown absolutely no creativity at all.

They traded for vets instead of going young. Then they held onto DDR/Rudy until they had no value just to lose them for nothing vs setup their future better. Then they reach and dont trade back to get additional assets.

I have lost all faith in this FO ability to do anything outside the box or via trade/FA and now the draft takes a hit.

This kid could be MVP of the NBA and it still doesn’t change the fact that they were so wasteful with this pick and nuked their lottery pick value.

This front office has no idea how to trade, whether it's players or picks. They really liked Primo - the obvious play is to trade back but the FO is so terrible and allergic to this part of the process that they decide to waste a 12th pick on someone with 2nd round talent. Beyond stupid but it's par the course for this front office considering how much of a trainwreck they've been since 2017.

[RC_Drunkford]

Unless we don't bring Patty Mills back I don't see where he even fits in the rotation.

Murray/White
Walker/Primo
Johnson/Vassell
Samanic?/hopefully not Gay/Lyles/surely we don't bring DeRozan back to this roster...
Poeltl/Eubanks (maybe Dieng but I doubt we bring him back either tbh)

I wouldn't even bother trying to sign John Collins at this point we would be a transcending talent (Luka Doncic type) away from being a contender and Collins would ensure we're too good to get that type of talent in a draft.

great fit for Austin. That's where he will play for the next 2 years

[mudyez]

I have to admit, that I already took a look at the 2022 top draft prospects, right after we took Primo.

[Russ]

The Spurs are used to drafting in the late 20's -- it's the soft bigotry of low expectations.

[slick'81]

I felt spurs were looking to trade down being they ate up all their draft time. Still i hope this guy along with luka pan out or spurs are really f'n up lately

[KobesAchilles]

Anybody defending this pick is being obtuse. Nobody had the kid going so high. There was no reason to pick him where we did. We could’ve bought Utah’s pick if we really wanted him and have gotten him that way. Hell he might’ve been available with our second pick anyways

The dude is just another example of our team going in the wrong direction. Another player that is going to be undersized where we play him. Our roster makes zero sense. Brian Wrong is a bad GM. Pop is a bad coach. We have zero good assistant coaches. And once again we have the worst future in the fucking divison

Only good news is that Lonnie is probably gone and we are TANKING this year! It’s happening!

[KobesAchilles]

Anybody defending this pick is being obtuse. Nobody had the kid going so high. There was no reason to pick him where we did. We could’ve bought Utah’s pick if we really wanted him and have gotten him that way. Hell he might’ve been available with our second pick anyways

The dude is just another example of our team going in the wrong direction. Another player that is going to be undersized where we play him. Our roster makes zero sense. Brian Wrong is a bad GM. Pop is a bad coach. We have zero good assistant coaches. And once again we have the worst future in the fucking division

Only good news is that Lonnie is probably gone and we are TANKING this year! It’s happening!

[timvp]

I had Primo 25 on my Big Board so I liked him more than the vast majority of people ............ but man. History tells us this pick will probably pay off but it's a tough decision to swallow.

[rastaspur]

Coach nate put him in a box this year that didnt let him show all his skills. Had him basically just spaced out on the perimeter as a spot up shooter. He should have had the ball in his hands alot more though. Coach nate basically ran a Houston type offense of layups and 3 point shots. Nate did primo a disservice to be honest and should have had him handling the rock and attacking more.

He's deceptively strong and really knows how to create space with his body and get a defender off balance when going to the whole. A little akin to james harden.

It was a stretch at 12 but by no means is this kid a scrub. This will pan out over time but I think he could have been had between picks 18 and 21.

[mudyez]

Woj just reported, that the Pacers where highly interested in Primo with the 13th pick, so we had to take him there.

J/k, even Woj never heard of this kid.

[rastaspur]

Coach nate put him in a box this year that didnt let him show all his skills. Had him basically just spaced out on the perimeter as a spot up shooter. He should have had the ball in his hands alot more though. Coach nate basically ran a Houston type offense of layups and 3 point shots. Nate did primo a disservice to be honest and should have had him handling the rock and attacking more.

He's deceptively strong and really knows how to create space with his body and get a defender off balance when going to the whole. A little akin to james harden.

It was a stretch at 12 but by no means is this kid a scrub. This will pan out over time but I think he could have been had between picks 18 and 21.

[SPURt]

Is this a signal they expect Samanic to make a leap? Is this a sign the Spurs are going hard at John Collins? Where are the Spurs looking to get front court depth?

[slick'81]

Hopefully by 21 hell be 6'8 with a 6'11 wing span

[Kurik]

Coach nate put him in a box this year that didnt let him show all his skills. Had him basically just spaced out on the perimeter as a spot up shooter. He should have had the ball in his hands alot more though. Coach nate basically ran a Houston type offense of layups and 3 point shots. Nate did primo a disservice to be honest and should have had him handling the rock and attacking more.

He's deceptively strong and really knows how to create space with his body and get a defender off balance when going to the whole. A little akin to james harden.

It was a stretch at 12 but by no means is this kid a scrub. This will pan out over time but I think he could have been had between picks 18 and 21.

I appreciate the insight! I’ll be rooting for him, I just hope heads roll at some point in the FO. I’ll try and watch a few Austin Spurs games live.

[Kurik]

Coach nate put him in a box this year that didnt let him show all his skills. Had him basically just spaced out on the perimeter as a spot up shooter. He should have had the ball in his hands alot more though. Coach nate basically ran a Houston type offense of layups and 3 point shots. Nate did primo a disservice to be honest and should have had him handling the rock and attacking more.

He's deceptively strong and really knows how to create space with his body and get a defender off balance when going to the whole. A little akin to james harden.

It was a stretch at 12 but by no means is this kid a scrub. This will pan out over time but I think he could have been had between picks 18 and 21.

I appreciate the insight! I’ll be rooting for him, I just hope heads roll at some point in the FO. I’ll try and watch a few Austin Spurs games live.

[Degoat]

I’ve really liked Joshua primo for awhile now, I think he will be really good down the road! The only thing that puzzles me is what direction we’re going, this pick would suggest a full rebuild but what are we going to do with our cap space? Max Patty Mills lmao

[Kurgan]

Well, this settles the BPA vs Position of Need debate. Apparently, it's neither.

Seems like they're drafting based on character/morals now

[Ef-man]

This is image of Primo from ESPN NBA draft tracker.

Did I miss something?

Is this the NBA draft or the Pre-Teen Summer Camp Team Draft?


https://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nbadraft/players/full/105474.png&h=64&w=64&scale=crop

[Chinook]

I had Primo 25 on my Big Board so I liked him more than the vast majority of people ............ but man. History tells us this pick will probably pay off but it's a tough decision to swallow.

My issue isn't with the pick. As you said, the Spurs probably did identify Primo as a player who will develop well. He'll likely peak as the best of the young players, even. The issue is that the Spurs HAVE to trade some of their guards at this point. It's crazy depressing thinking about them running

Murray, Jones, Weatherspoon
White, Walker, Primo
Vassell, KBD
Johnson, Samanic
Poeltl, Eubanks

That team really hurts my sensibilities, and I can totally imagine the team adding some vet guards to that and running units with Vassell at PF

[spurraider21]

Sniffers in 2025:

We knew all along this guy wasn’t supposed to be good until year 6, stop calling him a bust

[mudyez]

Woj just reported, that the Pacers where highly interested in Primo with the 13th pick, so we had to take him there.

J/k, even Woj never heard of this kid.

[ducks]

Woj just reported, that the Pacers where highly interested in Primo with the 13th pick, so we had to take him there.

J/k, even Woj never heard of this kid.

[ducks]

Woj just reported, that the Pacers where highly interested in Primo with the 13th pick, so we had to take him there.

J/k, even Woj never heard of this kid.

[jjspur]

Don't even want to watch the 2nd round so disappointed. He can go join Luka in Austin next year. Just kidding Luka will be on the bench most of the year unless he has to play because we didn't draft anybody worth being on the team for another 2 years.

[Chomag]

Funniest part of the night was watching ESPN guys try to come up with words to say when Spurs Picked. They were so unprepared and you could hear them struggling lol

[Kurgan]

Primo suffered an MCL sprain in college. So not only did we draft someone with 2nd round talent, he's not even the most durable of players out there. Derrick White 2.0?

[slick'81]

Funniest part of the night was watching ESPN guys try to come up with words to say when Spurs Picked. They were so unprepared and you could hear them struggling lol

Dudes left in the green room were like wtf

[tbdog]

The reports on Primo is promising. 6ft3, great shooter, (one of the best in the draft) good defender at age 18. But this in the NBA. The kids needs to learn, get stronger and possibly taller. He could be a 6ft5 SG in 2 years time. He only avg 8 points p/g. At pick 12 you kinda expect someone to be in the rotation straight away, like Vassell. Vassell was drafted at 19 but turned 20 in August. Primo turns 19 in December. So there appears a year or two away from being Vassell in a rotation despite being pick at 12 compared to Vassell 11.

The Spurs are also looking at a future SG, but know the guard line-up is heavy right now. So they have time to bring him along. They are thinking of a glue guy like Johnson and Vassell, someone you rely upon to go with the studs.

This to mean spells this. Walker is questionable to be in Spurs future plans. And one of White/Murray are gone in the near future (likely White).

[John B]

He’s a good kid, but easily we could’ve traded down and got several picks if PATFO wanted him that bad. I’m just hoping it’s going on a trade to Sixers?? They are high on him.

[Degoat]

Can’t wait for the HEB Primo picks commercials lol

[MoSpur02]

This pick is a head scratcher for sure. Not because of the player he is or could be, but because we have three young players at his position already. Only thing I can think of is that they are trading one of White, Walker, or Vassell.

[dbestpro]

Is this a signal they expect Samanic to make a leap? Is this a sign the Spurs are going hard at John Collins? Where are the Spurs looking to get front court depth?

Its a signal they are going for the first pick in the draft in 2022.

[slick'81]

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Tony parker 2.0

[BatManu20]

Hell yea LFG. He’s only 18 so I’m gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.


Lowest PER of NBA Draft prospects (top 75 from @tankathon):
Romeo Weems 8.6
Ziaire Williams 11.1
Joshua Primo 13.2
BJ Boston 13.2

[RC_Drunkford]

Is this a signal they expect Samanic to make a leap? Is this a sign the Spurs are going hard at John Collins? Where are the Spurs looking to get front court depth?

:pop: "Front court? We will play super small ball with DeMar at the 4, but without 3-point shooting. We will just outsmarten our opponents and eat dinner together to talk about the moon and the stars"

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[DPG21920]

I had Primo 25 on my Big Board so I liked him more than the vast majority of people ............ but man. History tells us this pick will probably pay off but it's a tough decision to swallow.

I guess ultimately if he’s a real player all is forgiven but that doesn’t change the over arching issues that this highlights. They have no vision and refuse to engage in asset management.

They are so wasteful and miss literally every opportunity to give themselves any extra capital. Small markets need to maximize asset management and they are the worst in the league at it nearly.

Look at what GS does even when winning and their creativity. Look at OKC. Hell, even look at what HOU just did.

[Mr. Body]

It's important to separate two vital issues here.

1. Is this a good player?

2. Was this a good pick?

Let's not slag off on Primo. He really looks like a good prospect and there were a lot of people liking him later in the round. Fact is, there are tons of guards in this year's class and it was hard to differentiate them. He has defensive potential, offensive skills, seems like a great kid, and is extreeeeemely young. I believe the youngest in this class.

Now, the question is whether the team could have pulled more value out of the spot, and that's where we're all rightfully peeved.

But let's not slam this kid for the pick. The Spurs believe in their picks. They do not make trades, generally, the squeeze value, because they are conservative and know what they want. That's irritating, but it is what it is. Consistently they've been drafting well for several years now. But now's for next steps.

[SAGirl]

He's very young and can already shoot well. I think there's potential there that went a little overlooked. Here got good size and might even grow a little more since he's so young. I like him and his potential. I suspect in the future Spurs may be getting ready to move on from some guards. Otherwise this will be them in 2023:
https://www.davisenterprise.com/files/2012/12/Hobbit-1W.jpg

[slick'81]

I guess ultimately if he’s a real player all is forgiven but that doesn’t change the over arching issues that this highlights. They have no vision and refuse to engage in asset management.

They are so wasteful and miss literally every opportunity to give themselves any extra capital. Small markets need to maximize asset management and they are the worst in the league at it nearly.

Look at what GS does even when winning and their creativity. Look at OKC. Hell, even look at what HOU just did.

you think youd be used to it by now

[ttdog]

From BamaInsider Mock Draft (https://alabama.rivals.com/news/alabama-basketball-mock-draft-roundup)


Prior to Thursday’s NBA, BamaInsider compiled five major mock drafts — ESPN, FOX Sports, Sports Illustrated, The Athletic and The Ringer — to get a better feel at where Alabama’s draft hopefuls will land.

Joshua Primo

ESPN — No. 28, Philadelphia 76ers

FOX Sports — No. 29, Phoenix Suns

Sports Illustrated — No. 24, Houston Rockets

The Athletic — No. 26, Denver Nuggets

The Ringer — No. 28, Philadelphia 76ers

ESPN basketball analyst Jay Bilas: “I think the more I watched him, the more I really liked him. I’d be surprised if he’s not a first-round selection. Really a talented player, one of those kind of do-it-all guys that can — he has better size than I thought, and he’s versatile on both ends of the floor. Came off the bench, but great effort and can handle it.

“I was very impressed with the way he played at the combine. He’s a good catch-and-shoot guy. I liked him a lot, and with the way he defended, as well, and he showed he could handle it, which I honestly wasn’t sure that he projected necessarily as an initiating or handling guard. He’s got a lot of ability. I was really impressed with him, and just — he can be a sniper shooting the ball.”

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[Dverde]

Pick shows to me they still believe in Luka S. Still seems like we should have traded down for this kid tho.

[Kurgan]

Hell yea LFG. He’s only 18 so I’m gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.


Lowest PER of NBA Draft prospects (top 75 from @tankathon):
Romeo Weems 8.6
Ziaire Williams 11.1
Joshua Primo 13.2
BJ Boston 13.2

3rd worst PER of everyone in the draft but PATFO proceeds to use the 12th pick on him because of his high character. Spurs will still have him spend the next two years in Austin because he still has to get over himself(even though he was drafted for his high character)

[Russ]

Here's the problem I have with the pick.

The Spurs may have correctly identified the best player available at #12.

But, if so, no one else knew that.

Therefore, their unique insight should be rewarded, leveraged if you will, by additional moves.

Trade down, get your man and extract some benefit from your superior knowledge and talent evaluation.

Or take another player at #12 and then get your guy later.

Either way, you extract value from your clearly superior talent evaluation ability.

They didn't do that.

[CGD]

This pick is a head scratcher for sure. Not because of the player he is or could be, but because we have three young players at his position already. Only thing I can think of is that they are trading one of White, Walker, or Vassell.

Agree. Plus if this was the pick, why not just take the 2 Knicks picks and draft him later? Knicks were keen on getting ahead of teams to draft Duarte, which went at 13.

[Dverde]

Houston just gave OKC two first round picks for #16. Wtf is up with that?

[Walton Buys Off Me]

Whether Primo will one day be a contributor is irrelevant. The bottom line is that our GM took a guy at 12 that nobody else would have taken in the next 10-12 picks when a more experienced GM would have either drafted a player than can contribute now, or, if their mind was set on Primo, simply traded down to get him later.

It’s embarrassing how ineffective Brian Wright has been as GM of the Spurs

He screwed up the Morris signing and allowed Bertans to walk

He got zero return for Aldridge

He had 4 UFA contracts to dangle (DeRozan, Mills, Gay, Lyles) and got nothing for any of them

He’s missed the playoffs 2 straight years

In any other field, he’d be swiftly terminated and relieved of his duties

[DPG21920]

This pick is a head scratcher for sure. Not because of the player he is or could be, but because we have three young players at his position already. Only thing I can think of is that they are trading one of White, Walker, or Vassell.

Even if that is true that is reason like 3 that the pick made no sense…it made no sense first and foremost because there was absolutely zero reason to pick him at 12.

[slick'81]

Here's the problem I have with the pick.

The Spurs may have correctly identified the best player available at #12.

But, if so, no one else knew that.

Therefore, their unique insight should be rewarded, leveraged if you will, by additional moves.

Trade down, get your man and extract some benefit from your superior knowledge and talent evaluation.

Or take another player at #12 and then get your guy later.

Either way, you extract value from your clearly superior talent evaluation ability.

They didn't do that.


They never do. Its typical spurs. Im pissed and dont know why

[slick'81]

Anyone with a brain knows you trade down ,and pick up an xtra pick but not brian wrong,hell no

[vy65]

It's important to separate two vital issues here.

1. Is this a good player?

2. Was this a good pick?

Let's not slag off on Primo. He really looks like a good prospect and there were a lot of people liking him later in the round. Fact is, there are tons of guards in this year's class and it was hard to differentiate them. He has defensive potential, offensive skills, seems like a great kid, and is extreeeeemely young. I believe the youngest in this class.

Now, the question is whether the team could have pulled more value out of the spot, and that's where we're all rightfully peeved.

But let's not slam this kid for the pick. The Spurs believe in their picks. They do not make trades, generally, the squeeze value, because they are conservative and know what they want. That's irritating, but it is what it is. Consistently they've been drafting well for several years now. But now's for next steps.

He looks like a good prospect based on what? Does he look like a prospect worth taking at 12, much less in the first round? If so, could you cite to a single post before 7pm today where you said as much or agreed with someone saying as much?

I get that you agree with this being a reach, so I won't fault you for that. But we've come to a point where the ineptitude of this FO is fully on display. Their refusal to do a fucking trade is beyond incomprehensible. And so that refusal makes this pick an F. There is no getting around that. This FO does not know what it is doing. Anyone trying to justify this pick in even the most tangential way is trying to give credibility to a management team that deserves nothing of the sort.

[DPG21920]

Houston just gave OKC two first round picks for #16. Wtf is up with that?

They loved the guy and the picks are pretty heavily protected…

[slick'81]

He looks like a good prospect based on what? Does he look like a prospect worth taking at 12, much less in the first round? If so, could you cite to a single post before 7pm today where you said as much or agreed with someone saying as much?

I get that you agree with this being a reach, so I won't fault you for that. But we've come to a point where the ineptitude of this FO is fully on display. Their refusal to do a fucking trade is beyond incomprehensible. And so that refusal makes this pick an F. There is no getting around that. This FO does not know what it is doing. Anyone trying to justify this pick in even the most tangential way is trying to give credibility to a management team that deserves nothing of the sort.


A fukcing men

[Mugen]

So...a completely wasted season right? :lol

[daslicer]

Whether Primo will one day be a contributor is irrelevant. The bottom line is that our GM took a guy at 12 that nobody else would have taken in the next 10-12 picks when a more experienced GM would have either drafted a player than can contribute now, or, if their mind was set on Primo, simply traded down to get him later.

It’s embarrassing how ineffective Brian Wright has been as GM of the Spurs

He screwed up the Morris signing and allowed Bertans to walk

He got zero return for Aldridge

He had 4 UFA contracts to dangle (DeRozan, Mills, Gay, Lyles) and got nothing for any of them

He’s missed the playoffs 2 straight years

In any other field, he’d be swiftly terminated and relieved of his duties

This is the only move I don't blame Wright for. What the Knicks and Morris did was bush league. He made that trade to get rid of Bertans to clear cap space. That was a creative move. One of the few creative moves he has done. You are right about the rest of the stuff that you listed.

[Kurgan]

Whether Primo will one day be a contributor is irrelevant. The bottom line is that our GM took a guy at 12 that nobody else would have taken in the next 10-12 picks when a more experienced GM would have either drafted a player than can contribute now, or, if their mind was set on Primo, simply traded down to get him later.

It’s embarrassing how ineffective Brian Wright has been as GM of the Spurs

He screwed up the Morris signing and allowed Bertans to walk

He got zero return for Aldridge

He had 4 UFA contracts to dangle (DeRozan, Mills, Gay, Lyles) and got nothing for any of them

He’s missed the playoffs 2 straight years

In any other field, he’d be swiftly terminated and relieved of his duties

Wright is a diversity hire. They're scared of firing him even though he sucks at his job. Can't think of any other reason why they would hang onto someone with such a poor Spurs resume(on top of his underwhelming history with the Magic and Pistons front offices)

[Mugen]

It's important to separate two vital issues here.

1. Is this a good player?

2. Was this a good pick?

Let's not slag off on Primo. He really looks like a good prospect and there were a lot of people liking him later in the round. Fact is, there are tons of guards in this year's class and it was hard to differentiate them. He has defensive potential, offensive skills, seems like a great kid, and is extreeeeemely young. I believe the youngest in this class.

Now, the question is whether the team could have pulled more value out of the spot, and that's where we're all rightfully peeved.

But let's not slam this kid for the pick. The Spurs believe in their picks. They do not make trades, generally, the squeeze value, because they are conservative and know what they want. That's irritating, but it is what it is. Consistently they've been drafting well for several years now. But now's for next steps.

I guarantee those people would have liked him a lot less if they were picking in the lottery :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Could have gotten Reddish and 20 from the Hawks and still gotten him if nothing else.

[slick'81]

So...a completely wasted season right? :lol


Easily. Lauri markkanes will be the cherry on top

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Honesty right here.

[Mr. Body]

Agree. Plus if this was the pick, why not just take the 2 Knicks picks and draft him later? Knicks were keen on getting ahead of teams to draft Duarte, which went at 13.

Knicks traded their picks completely out of the round. They did have one pick later.

Fact of the matter may be no one wanted to trade up.

[Mr. Body]

Could have gotten Reddish and 20 from the Hawks and still gotten him if nothing else.

But then you'd have Cam Reddish.

[timvp]

Primo is in Austin for at least one season. Probably two.

[SPURt]

:pop: "Front court? We will play super small ball with DeMar at the 4, but without 3-point shooting. We will just outsmarten our opponents and eat dinner together to talk about the moon and the stars" I’m chubbin just thinking about this

[slick'81]

Honesty right here.

Def cringey af. Nobody sat there ,and heard primos name then went YeS!

[poopbox]

Well for those of us who wanted to go into full blown rebuild mode. This is what a rebuild looks like. He is going to be another guy like Luka who we won't know if he is even a good nba player until the 3rd year of his nba career...

[pad300]

12th pure SG (ie not counting PG/SG and SG/SF hybrids) on tankathon's big board. We drafted him 12th overall! With a potential special guy (Sengun) still on the board...

[slick'81]

Well for those of us who wanted to go into full blown rebuild mode. This is what a rebuild looks like. He is going to be another guy like Luka who we won't know if he is even a good nba player until the 3rd year of his nba career...


Is it a rebuild? Or do spurs bring back two of derozan/mills ,and gay fighting for that playin again

[objective]

Express News guys on Twitter fluffing HARD

[CGD]

Knicks traded their picks completely out of the round. They did have one pick later.

Fact of the matter may be no one wanted to trade up.

Yeah, but later. Not when 12 was still on the table. They wanted to move up to get Duarte, so they appear to have been motivated.

[Kurgan]

So...a completely wasted season right? :lol

At least we drafted an injury prone teenager with the third worst PER in the draft. Maybe, if we're lucky, he can be a poor man's Will Barton in a few years

[poopbox]

Is this a signal they expect Samanic to make a leap? Is this a sign the Spurs are going hard at John Collins? Where are the Spurs looking to get front court depth?

I do take this as a sign they will address all their front court needs in free agency. They HAVE to come away with at least one of Collins, Lauri, or Holmes though.

[daslicer]

On a side note the Spurs have a lot of guards and tweeners. Dejounte,White are both guards. Vassell he's a tweener between a guard and Forward. Keldon looks to me at best 6'6 but he's built like a truck so you can play him at SF but he also looks like a tweener. Now the Spurs have added Primo who is another guard. So the Spurs now have 3 guards and two tweeners for perimeter players. They have no legit PF, and have a garbage C in Poetl and his backup Eubanks is a scrub, Samanic still can't produce.

This team is terribly constructed. Too many guys are undersized and out of position and it has a lack of good bigmen.

[CGD]

Wright is a diversity hire. They're scared of firing him even though he sucks at his job. Can't think of any other reason why they would hang onto someone with such a poor Spurs resume(on top of his underwhelming history with the Magic and Pistons front offices)

What a dumb ass take.

[DPG21920]

Primo is in Austin for at least one season. Probably two.

Answer me you coward :lol !

[Mugen]

Well for those of us who wanted to go into full blown rebuild mode. This is what a rebuild looks like. He is going to be another guy like Luka who we won't know if he is even a good nba player until the 3rd year of his nba career...

:lol Except they're not. They'll probably throw stupid money at somebody like Markkannen and be in the 9-11th range in the West again with a same bottom of the lottery pick next draft.

This organization has absolutely zero direction and it's probably going to take them another 5-7 years before they are even close to relevant again.

[slick'81]

Answer me you coward :lol !


Nobody is dmb enough to spin this

[Mugen]

On a side note the Spurs have a lot of guards and tweeners. Dejounte,White are both guards. Vassell he's a tweener between a guard and Forward. Keldon looks to me at best 6'6 but he's built like a truck so you can play him at SF but he also looks like a tweener. Now the Spurs have added Primo who is another guard. So the Spurs now have 3 guards and two tweeners for perimeter players. They have no legit PF, and have a garbage C in Poetl and his backup Eubanks is a scrub, Samanic still can't produce.

This team is terribly constructed. Too many guys are undersized and out of position and it has a lack of good bigmen.

Don't forget the worst coach in the league tbh :lol

[daslicer]

:lol Except they're not. They'll probably throw stupid money at somebody like Markkannen and be in the 9-11th range in the West again with a same bottom of the lottery pick next draft.

This organization has absolutely zero direction and it's probably going to take them another 5-7 years before they are even close to relevant again.

Agreed. Spurs are going to keep drafting at 10-12 for the next 4-5 years the way they have designed their team. This is a retarded front office that really has no direction.

[slick'81]

Dejounte murray should be upset spurs basically punted the draft this year,and gave him no help

[spurraider21]

Primo is in Austin for at least one season. Probably two.
Primo, Samanic… these guys should have been second rounders

[CGD]

Serious question, is there a chance this kid is still not done growing?

[daslicer]

Don't forget the worst coach in the league tbh :lol

Agreed

[RD2191]

Wright is a diversity hire. They're scared of firing him even though he sucks at his job. Can't think of any other reason why they would hang onto someone with such a poor Spurs resume(on top of his underwhelming history with the Magic and Pistons front offices)
Man, I don't know if it's racist to agree with you or not but I was thinking this exact same thing earlier. :lol

[slick'81]

Serious question, is there a chance this kid is still not done growing?

Of course hes only 18. There is some upside

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Serious question, is there a chance this kid is still not done growing?

Probably. He looks 13.

[ducks]

Man, I don't know if it's racist to agree with you or not but I was thinking this exact same thing earlier. :lol

The problem with woke
Just hire the best person forget about diversity

[Mr. Body]

Serious question, is there a chance this kid is still not done growing?

Yes.

[Mikesatx]

Possibly the Spurs are so high on him they didn’t want to risk losing him. When White was drafted no one had heard of him. He’s worked out okay. The Spurs history of drafting players and developing players speaks for itself. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. GSG

[timvp]

Answer me you coward :lol !

Repeat the question. I'm scrolling with one hand and holding a cup of bleach with the other hand. Must have missed it, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Nobody is dmb enough to spin this

I am not looking for a spin; I am doing a sentiment check on the FO and peoples level of concern with their performance last few years until today. Especially since this is the biggest crossroads in a long, long time.

[DAF86]

The forum let me in, at last.

All I'm gonna say is this guy better be the second coming of Devin Booker to justify drafting yet another 6'5" combo guard.

[Atl Spur]

Man, I don't know if it's racist to agree with you or not but I was thinking this exact same thing earlier. :lol

It’s not racist........just stupid! Hope I helped you:)

[MultiTroll]

Serious question, is there a chance this kid is still not done growing?
Yes and by family line (duh) and examining bones a reasonably accurate prediction can be made.

I don't know what his exact DNA is.

But if y'all are telling me he could have been had with 20-26th pick.....what a screw up to take him at 12.

[poopbox]

:lol Except they're not. They'll probably throw stupid money at somebody like Markkannen and be in the 9-11th range in the West again with a same bottom of the lottery pick next draft.

This organization has absolutely zero direction and it's probably going to take them another 5-7 years before they are even close to relevant again.

Lauri is 24 and would fill a need on this team so I am find with them throwing money at him. He fits the timeline of the players on our team.

I say full blown rebuild mode because I do not expect any of our veterans free agents to sign here and I don't expect the spurs to sign players who are 30 or over

[Chinook]

Primo is in Austin for at least one season. Probably two.

I expect him to be on the bench pretty early, actually. He's young, but right now, he has only Tre Jones and Weatherspoon keeping him off the court. That won't last very long. I don't expect him to be very good for a while, but if he's the guy they hopefully think he is, he'll show enough to get time early.

Now if they re-sign Mills, then yes, he could be in Austin for a couple of years or at least until they get rid of Walker.

[slick'81]

I am not looking for a spin; I am doing a sentiment check on the FO and peoples level of concern with their performance last few years until today. Especially since this is the biggest crossroads in a long, long time.


Going to depend on guys like lonnie,luka,vassel and now primo. They passed on halliburton,reached for luka,now primo and buried lonnie early. How they develop will tell the story

[HankChinaski]

Repeat the question. I'm scrolling with one hand and holding a cup of bleach with the other hand. Must have missed it, tbh.

Just throw into your eyes, you are not going to be reading anything worthwhile in the forums tonight.

[DPG21920]

Repeat the question. I'm scrolling with one hand and holding a cup of bleach with the other hand. Must have missed it, tbh.

How much has your faith in this FO been shaken? They are absolutely atrocious at asset management. They have shown absolutely no creativity at all.

They traded for vets instead of going young. Then they held onto DDR/Rudy until they had no value just to lose them for nothing vs setup their future better. Then they reach and dont trade back to get additional assets.

I have lost all faith in this FO ability to do anything outside the box or via trade/FA and now the draft takes a hit.

This kid could be MVP of the NBA and it still doesn’t change the fact that they were so wasteful with this pick and nuked their lottery pick value

[daslicer]

Probably. He looks 13.

Most people stop growing at 18. Very few people grow after that age.

[Degoat]

From SI… the spurs wanted him, they got him. I think he’ll be really good

“After a strong showing at the combine and an impressive pre-draft process behind closed doors, Primo now looks like a lock to land somewhere in the first round, with his range beginning in the late teens and running down into the 20s. He’s demonstrated a more diverse offensive game than he showed in a spot-up role at Alabama, with combo guard skills and an impressive level of poise and focus. The fact he’s the youngest draft-eligible prospect adds a layer of appeal as a long-term project, and he’s in the mix for teams that can afford to be patient. Primo has starter-level upside in the long run.”

[DPG21920]

Going to depend on guys like lonnie,luka,vassel and now primo. They passed on halliburton,reached for luka,now primo and buried lonnie early. How they develop will tell the story

Sure the players they pick being good or not is most important; but their overall performance (FA, Trades, Asset Management) is what I am questioning.

[rastaspur]

Here's the problem I have with the pick.

The Spurs may have correctly identified the best player available at #12.

But, if so, no one else knew that.

Therefore, their unique insight should be rewarded, leveraged if you will, by additional moves.

Trade down, get your man and extract some benefit from your superior knowledge and talent evaluation.

Or take another player at #12 and then get your guy later.

Either way, you extract value from your clearly superior talent evaluation ability.

They didn't do that.I'm a big fan of primo but mist certainly agree with your post. That's my beef with it

[Atl Spur]

Wright is a diversity hire. They're scared of firing him even though he sucks at his job. Can't think of any other reason why they would hang onto someone with such a poor Spurs resume(on top of his underwhelming history with the Magic and Pistons front offices)

The fact that you think wright is making all the calls is comical! Pop & Rc is still part of the org.....right?

[james evans]

damn man I wanted Sharpe. People dont know that he can shoot 3s. Roy Williams just didn't use him that way.

[objective]

he has only Tre Jones and Weatherspoon keeping him off the court.

Forgetting someone? :pop:

[Kurik]

From SI… the spurs wanted him, they got him. I think he’ll be really good

“After a strong showing at the combine and an impressive pre-draft process behind closed doors, Primo now looks like a lock to land somewhere in the first round, with his range beginning in the late teens and running down into the 20s. He’s demonstrated a more diverse offensive game than he showed in a spot-up role at Alabama, with combo guard skills and an impressive level of poise and focus. The fact he’s the youngest draft-eligible prospect adds a layer of appeal as a long-term project, and he’s in the mix for teams that can afford to be patient. Primo has starter-level upside in the long run.”

Has to be all star level upside to be worth it.

[slick'81]

From SI… the spurs wanted him, they got him. I think he’ll be really good

“After a strong showing at the combine and an impressive pre-draft process behind closed doors, Primo now looks like a lock to land somewhere in the first round, with his range beginning in the late teens and running down into the 20s. He’s demonstrated a more diverse offensive game than he showed in a spot-up role at Alabama, with combo guard skills and an impressive level of poise and focus. The fact he’s the youngest draft-eligible prospect adds a layer of appeal as a long-term project, and he’s in the mix for teams that can afford to be patient. Primo has starter-level upside in the long run.”


Late teens down into the 20's

[slick'81]

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Sure the players they pick being good or not is most important; but their overall performance (FA, Trades, Asset Management) is what I am questioning.


We both know damn well they dont do trades. Dont get creative or shake things up.
Believe me i wish they were more proactive but pop/rc ,and wrong dont operate that way. This fa will tell the story.they still probably feel they are a healthy derrick white away from the playoffs

[DRob_50]

Forgetting someone? :pop:
They must’ve thought they were drafting for the Austin Spurs. This guy is not NBA material.

[cjw]

Would I have liked a trade down if he in fact was the guy? Sure. But intel may have had the Thunder with their boatload of picks having him on the radar at 16, and there was no option unless drafting him at 12.

We’ll see if the other guys available at that spot pan out. Primo will be in Austin and what he looks like at the end of next year should be what people comp to vs. others in first round. He’s basically a year younger.

For those looking to tank next year, this is better than having a guy who will contribute immediately. Much rather have him than a Kispert or Duarte (very old).

This does signal that Demar is all but out the door, and all cap space will be to target bigs.

[vy65]

:lol Except they're not. They'll probably throw stupid money at somebody like Markkannen and be in the 9-11th range in the West again with a same bottom of the lottery pick next draft.

This organization has absolutely zero direction and it's probably going to take them another 5-7 years before they are even close to relevant again.

Exactly. You don’t get to say “this is a rebuild” while doing nothing with DDR, LMA, etc during the season.

[bluebellmaniac]

Whether Primo will one day be a contributor is irrelevant. The bottom line is that our GM took a guy at 12 that nobody else would have taken in the next 10-12 picks when a more experienced GM would have either drafted a player than can contribute now, or, if their mind was set on Primo, simply traded down to get him later.

It’s embarrassing how ineffective Brian Wright has been as GM of the Spurs

He screwed up the Morris signing and allowed Bertans to walk

He got zero return for Aldridge

He had 4 UFA contracts to dangle (DeRozan, Mills, Gay, Lyles) and got nothing for any of them

He’s missed the playoffs 2 straight years

In any other field, he’d be swiftly terminated and relieved of his duties

Whoa, whoa, whooooooaaa!

Did Brian run over your dog? Shag your wife? WTF man???

[DPG21920]

LMAO even Primo is shocked:

“Honestly, I told my agent to shut up when he told me. I had to see it on the screen first”.

[SPURt]

I do take this as a sign they will address all their front court needs in free agency. They HAVE to come away with at least one of Collins, Lauri, or Holmes though.
Collins would be dope, but the other two might be best to keep in your poop box

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Wow, Spurs about to start getting hit with trade requests the moment the tanking starts in earnest. They need a GM that has a better handle on being opportunist is and managing assets. I don't think guys want to play in the Bilbo with the dwarves lineup.

[eDizzle20]

Good for Primo being drafted so high. I’m not gonna hate on him. By all accounts it was a reach, but it sounds like he did really well in combine and workouts. Clearly this pick is about ceiling potential and he will only be 22 at end of his rookie contract. Yes, they should have traded back unquestionably if he was their guy, but who knows if that was really an option. Thankfully SL is in only a couple of weeks to get a glimpse.

[objective]

Primo quotes to the media floating around on twitter now.


"Going that high, I don’t know if I was ready for that."

on being picked 12:


"Honestly, I told my agent to shut up when he told me. I had to see it on the screen first.”

Even Primo knew he shouldn't have gone that high

[Russ]

I had the same feeling about George Hill and Derrick White and they both worked out okay.

[rastaspur]

Has to be all star level upside to be worth it.

He has that upside. Confident in that.

[Mr. Body]

Would I have liked a trade down if he in fact was the guy? Sure. But intel may have had the Thunder with their boatload of picks having him on the radar at 16, and there was no option unless drafting him at 12.

We’ll see if the other guys available at that spot pan out. Primo will be in Austin and what he looks like at the end of next year should be what people comp to vs. others in first round. He’s basically a year younger.

For those looking to tank next year, this is better than having a guy who will contribute immediately. Much rather have him than a Kispert or Duarte (very old).

This does signal that Demar is all but out the door, and all cap space will be to target bigs.

Yeah, I think this is it. The only real trade partner was OKC and the Thunder probably weren't doing it. There were too many teams right after the Spurs who are pretty astute -- GSW, Indiana, for example, and trading back to the NYK wasn't happening because the Knicks actually got rid of those picks in the 20s.

The picture might be there were no valid trades and those that were there -- deeper -- risked losing the guy they wanted.

[DPG21920]

Would I have liked a trade down if he in fact was the guy? Sure. But intel may have had the Thunder with their boatload of picks having him on the radar at 16, and there was no option unless drafting him at 12.

We’ll see if the other guys available at that spot pan out. Primo will be in Austin and what he looks like at the end of next year should be what people comp to vs. others in first round. He’s basically a year younger.

For those looking to tank next year, this is better than having a guy who will contribute immediately. Much rather have him than a Kispert or Duarte (very old).

This does signal that Demar is all but out the door, and all cap space will be to target bigs.

That’s a nightmare because outside of Collins SA should not even think about locking any of these bigs up for years or significant money. Just one year deals and reset for a better FA class/stay flexible for trades.

[Mugen]

Forgetting someone? :pop:

:lol Seriously, it took Jerry Sloanavich a full year before Derrick got any minutes.

[Mr. Body]

That’s a nightmare because outside of Collins SA should not even think about locking any of these bigs up for years or significant money. Just one year deals and reset for a better FA class/stay flexible for trades.

They shouldn't even be considering locking up Collins with big money.

[DPG21920]

Whoa, whoa, whooooooaaa!

Did Brian run over your dog? Shag your wife? WTF man???

It’s the truth. It’s hard to say its on Wright since we know Pop/RC loom large over him and he probably doesn’t hold much sway but fact is nothing good has really happened under his watch either and he is the GM. So hard to see his value to the organization honestly.

[timvp]

How much has your faith in this FO been shaken?

Shaken by the pick of Primo? I'm still stunned by the pick but, big picture, it's not a huge deal. Yeah, they probably could have traded down and added an asset but if he was the player they really wanted, then just picking him isn't something that will shake my faith in their drafting ability. We'll see if we get any info about how high he was on the board, if they considered trading back, etc.

What the Spurs do in free agency could shake my faith, though. I was never on the "trade DeRozan and Aldridge for something, anything :cry" bandwagon but they need to be smart this summer. This is definitely a summer where things can go off the rails and cause me to completely lose faith.

Ask me again in a week, tbh.

[Kurik]

LMAO even Primo is shocked:

“Honestly, I told my agent to shut up when he told me. I had to see it on the screen first”.

“Spurs told me I was their Primo Pick and mentioned I would be the perfect fit at the 4.”

[Mugen]

Yeah, I think this is it. The only real trade partner was OKC and the Thunder probably weren't doing it. There were too many teams right after the Spurs who are pretty astute -- GSW, Indiana, for example, and trading back to the NYK wasn't happening because the Knicks actually got rid of those picks in the 20s.

The picture might be there were no valid trades and those that were there -- deeper -- risked losing the guy they wanted.
timvp - ^ see this is how you spin your garbage FO after 3 years of absolute clown moves

[Dingle Barry]

Seems to me this guy's ceiling is Lonnie with a bit better 3 ball.

This roster makes no sense at all.

[itzsoweezee]

The dumbest front office. Spending a lottery pick on a second rounder

[Mr. Body]

Shaken by the pick of Primo? I'm still stunned by the pick but, big picture, it's not a huge deal. Yeah, they probably could have traded down and added an asset but if he was the player they really wanted, then just picking him isn't something that will shake my faith in their drafting ability. We'll see if we get any info about how high he was on the board, if they considered trading back, etc.

What the Spurs do in free agency could shake my faith, though. I was never on the "trade DeRozan and Aldridge for something, anything :cry" bandwagon but they need to be smart this summer. This is definitely a summer where things can go off the rails and cause me to completely lose faith.

Ask me again in a week, tbh.

Agree. They never were getting much for LMA or DDR. Those were pipe dreams. The big mistakes this summer would be continuing with too many of the decrepit vets and/or signing big money to dubious players/fits like Markkanen and Collins.

[Kurgan]

I had the same feeling about George Hill and Derrick White and they both worked out okay.

Sure, for 26th and 29th picks. That's where Primo should have been taken. Wasting a 12th on him is criminal. It's as if the Spurs don't know how to scout or draft in the lottery.

[Mr. Body]

The dumbest front office. Spending a lottery pick on a second rounder

I think people need to realize Primo isn't a second round talent.

[Russ]

Yeah, I think this is it. The only real trade partner was OKC and the Thunder probably weren't doing it. There were too many teams right after the Spurs who are pretty astute -- GSW, Indiana, for example, and trading back to the NYK wasn't happening because the Knicks actually got rid of those picks in the 20s.

The picture might be there were no valid trades and those that were there -- deeper -- risked losing the guy they wanted.

If this kid works out big time that thinking might look pretty prescient.

[Atl Spur]

Exactly. You don’t get to say “this is a rebuild” while doing nothing with DDR, LMA, etc during the season.

Please stop being prisoners of the moment.....do your draft research of the last five drafts 1-10 lottery picks! All types of missing went on but you’ll bitch about #12��. You win with vets but back fill with youth, you guys know the rules!

[SAGirl]

fckn murray
Definitely not who Murray wanted.

[Kurik]

I want JT Thor in the second round.

[timvp]

"I don't know if I was ready for that, I didn't realize I was gonna be (picked) that high, but I'm glad it's with the Spurs. I've always wanted to be a Spur. I told my agent ... that's where I want to be."

[Mugen]

"I don't know if I was ready for that, I didn't realize I was gonna be (picked) that high, but I'm glad it's with the Spurs. I've always wanted to be a Spur. I told my agent ... that's where I want to be."

"Those idiots will max me and then send me to a real team so I can win a championship" :lol

[DPG21920]

Shaken by the pick of Primo? I'm still stunned by the pick but, big picture, it's not a huge deal. Yeah, they probably could have traded down and added an asset but if he was the player they really wanted, then just picking him isn't something that will shake my faith in their drafting ability. We'll see if we get any info about how high he was on the board, if they considered trading back, etc.

What the Spurs do in free agency could shake my faith, though. I was never on the "trade DeRozan and Aldridge for something, anything :cry" bandwagon but they need to be smart this summer. This is definitely a summer where things can go off the rails and cause me to completely lose faith.

Ask me again in a week, tbh.

Nah not about just the Primo pick; more about the last few years starting with what they did with Kawhi trade up until now. Agree in FA. Agree they have not made any huge mistakes.

But missing literally EVERY SINGLE opportunity to gain extra assets and clearly having no direction or plan and just stuck in neutral is alarming and for me inspires no faith that they are a modern and effective FO any longer.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Don't think Brian Wright should be attacked for this pick - a rookie GM wouldn't dare make such a reach - this decision certainly goes deeper.

[Atl Spur]

News flash: NO ONE WILL EVER HELP US! We will be just fine...patience ladies.

[superbigtime]

pathetic

[Atl Spur]

Don't think Brian Wright should be attacked for this pick - a rookie GM wouldn't dare make such a reach - this decision certainly goes deeper.

At least someone has a brain here!

[slick'81]

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[John B]

Also any positioning during the regular season has no bearing, because this guy is not even on anybody’s radar.

[gospursgojas]

Maybe he submitted the wrong name. Maybe he was supposed to be the 2nd round pick and Wright just handed the wrong name.

I honestly think this is not a huge stretch to believe this.

[ducks]

Most people stop growing at 18. Very few people grow after that age.

David Robinson says hi

[mudyez]

Knicks apparently wanted to trade up. Wonder if it would have been for both of their firstrounders. If so, we might have gotten Kai Jones and Primo.

BUT well, all these ifs will be forgotten, when Primo becomes an All Star in 2027.

...probably for the Raptors or the Supersonics.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Lololol reading the room on the old school posters who haven't been here in a decade, and timvp himself??
This is a monumental disaster.

I've never seen the spurs fans react this way on public social media directly towards the official spurs accounts.

This GM should be fucking fired

[objective]

Even if Primo was #1 overall on their board, where or when is he going to play? And I wouldn't be surprised if he was #1 over Cade and Mobley. Last year Utah and Lindsey had Azubuike #2 on their board. Lindsey was appropriately fired ... oops, I mean, 'transitioned to a consulting role'.

This team is going nowhere fast and he's not even going to play.

It's just frustrating that one of the things that fans of non-contending teams can look forward to for their entertainment dollar is the promise of lottery picks playing. Even if Primo was ready to go right now, no 6-5 or under guy is going to get minutes without injuries ahead of them.

At least he'll squeeze in during blowout losses, and after they max out Lauri Markannen, they'll have a few of those.

[SpurPadre]

I don't get why people weren't this pissed when we drafted Samanic. Primo excites me much more than that scrub.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1420949037319077889

[Dennis the Menace]

How we do get a Brian Wright and Pop resignation campaign going??

Someone get a t-shirt business started