Quinn winning Olympic gold as openly transgender athlete is a huge moment for inclusion

[ElNono]

Quinn winning Olympic gold as openly transgender athlete is a huge moment for inclusion
Nancy Armour
USA TODAY

YOKOHAMA, Japan — You can play. You can succeed. You can thrive.

You can belong.

Canada midfielder Quinn, one of the first openly transgender athletes to compete at an Olympic Games, is now a gold medalist. The shootout victory over Sweden on Friday night was a huge moment for them and Canada, the team’s first title at the Olympics or World Cup.

But it was an even bigger moment for inclusion. As craven politicians try and demonize people, particularly children, simply for being who they are, Quinn is a powerful symbol that the future doesn’t have to be filled with despair or hate.

There can be acceptance. There can be joy. There can be room on the world’s biggest stage.

"That's such a huge thing for me, just making sure kids know that they have a place in this sport," Quinn said after the game, light glinting off the gold medal around their neck. "Sports bring me so much joy, so hopefully I can pass that message along and be a role model for younger folks, seeing that they can be themselves and they can also have a place here and they can be Olympic champions.

"So I think that's really exciting."

And it is desperately needed.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/nancy-armour/2021/08/06/canadas-quinn-wins-olympic-soccer-gold-openly-transgender-athlete/5514587001/

[DarrinS]

Any female -> male trans wins medal?

[MultiTroll]

Pop is going to completely shut the haters up by coaching the US Womens team in 2024.
I've heard he is recruiting this Queen with Lakers blood:
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.7e1844a2169604575125fa9b6f90c727?rik=IC%2bItkyXr GKtCQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fsandrarose.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2019%2f12%2fEJ-Johnson-at-GQ-BG.jpg&ehk=aXetA%2fd1SbDEw8hxGYSGgk9pCXS85tVJjFJmpyaxQWk% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

[Reck]

Pop is going to completely shut the haters up by coaching the US Womens team in 2024.
I've heard he is recruiting this Queen with Lakers blood:
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.7e1844a2169604575125fa9b6f90c727?rik=IC%2bItkyXr GKtCQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fsandrarose.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2019%2f12%2fEJ-Johnson-at-GQ-BG.jpg&ehk=aXetA%2fd1SbDEw8hxGYSGgk9pCXS85tVJjFJmpyaxQWk% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

:lol Magic letting it run wild on the world.

[benefactor]

lol poverty ball

[benefactor]

:lol Magic letting it run wild on the world.
:lol

[spurraider21]

Any female -> male trans wins medal?
Considering the number of trans people overall let alone the amount of them who are active in sports let alone the amount of them who engage in sports at the Olympic level, the odds are generally minuscule

[Spurs Homer]

Bruce Jenner/Caitlyn

[Spurtacular]

Pity post.

[Thread]

Pop is going to completely shut the haters up by coaching the US Womens team in 2024.
I've heard he is recruiting this Queen with Lakers blood:
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.7e1844a2169604575125fa9b6f90c727?rik=IC%2bItkyXr GKtCQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fsandrarose.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2019%2f12%2fEJ-Johnson-at-GQ-BG.jpg&ehk=aXetA%2fd1SbDEw8hxGYSGgk9pCXS85tVJjFJmpyaxQWk% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

9 June 1985, Boston, Massachusetts.

Pop put a stop to it once & for all.

[koriwhat]

So wait, a biological female who is "trans" is on a women's team? Logic be damned! Logic and common sense were always damned when it comes to the regressive ideology of progressivism.

[MultiTroll]

9 June 1985, Boston, Massachusetts.

Pop put a stop to it once & for all.
June 17th, 2008.
Something stopped?

NBA Playoffs 2008- NBA Finals - Boston Celtics vs. Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN (http://www.espn.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=lalbos#:~:text=Player%20Matchups%20% 20%20LAKERS%20%20%20,9.2%20As%20...%20%201%20more% 20rows%20)

[Trainwreck2100]

Was it ftm or mtf?

[koriwhat]

Was it ftm or mtf?

FtM but not man enough to join the Big Boy Club. :lmao

[Reck]

FtM but not man enough to join the Big Boy Club. :lmao

So basically, you. Checks out

[koriwhat]

So basically, you. Checks out

Ah poor tranny Reck is upset. :cry

[spurraider21]

Quinn doesn’t identify as a man. People saying FTM don’t even know what they’re talking about :lol

[Thread]

June 17th, 2008.
Something stopped?

NBA Playoffs 2008- NBA Finals - Boston Celtics vs. Los Angeles Lakers - ESPN (http://www.espn.com/nba/playoffs2008/series?series=lalbos#:~:text=Player%20Matchups%20% 20%20LAKERS%20%20%20,9.2%20As%20...%20%201%20more% 20rows%20)

9 June 1985 put a stop to the losing streak once & for all.

You gd cement head, you.

[Thread]

FtM but not man enough to join the Big Boy Club. :lmao

Like the hard count in the NFL,,,can't snap that fucker unless the defense steps across, that way there is nary risk.
Like the pitch frame in the MLB,,,has to drag a ball count in to the strike zone to deceive the umpiring, that way there is nary risk.

& you ain't gonna talk these cheating fucks out of it for all the rice in China.

[koriwhat]

Quinn doesn’t identify as a man. People saying FTM don’t even know what they’re talking about :lol

Non-Binary bs nowadays... An article I read stated both because all are mentally insane.

[Trainwreck2100]

Quinn doesn’t identify as a man. People saying FTM don’t even know what they’re talking about :lol

Ok was it born with a penis or a vagina

[spurraider21]

Ok was it born with a penis or a vagina
You typically refer to humans as it or just the ones you have disdain for? The answers to your question are pretty easily found thru google

[spurraider21]

Non-Binary bs nowadays... An article I read stated both because all are mentally insane.
Nah, transgenderism has been a known phenomenon for millenia

[Trainwreck2100]

You typically refer to humans as it or just the ones you have disdain for? The answers to your question are pretty easily found thru google

how can i possibly assign a correct pronoun without knowing what the fuck it is. I'd hate to use the wrong one so I use a gender neutral word

[ElNono]

how can i possibly assign a correct pronoun without knowing what the fuck it is. I'd hate to use the wrong one so I use a gender neutral word

You can ask the person.

[Trainwreck2100]

You can ask the person.

i don't really have canadian midfielders on speed dial so no, i can't

[daboom1]

gotheem^

[Reck]

gotheem^

Low tier poster.

[spurraider21]

i don't really have canadian midfielders on speed dial so no, i can't
or quite literally any article talking about quinn. you'd know they go by they

[hater]

i don't really have canadian midfielders on speed dial so no, i can't

:lmao

[ElNono]

i don't really have canadian midfielders on speed dial so no, i can't

Then I don't think you have to sweat what pronoun you're using when referring to canadian midfielders, tbh...

[Trainwreck2100]

Then I don't think you have to sweat what pronoun you're using when referring to canadian midfielders, tbh...

i don't have to but i do out of courtesy

[koriwhat]

Nah, transgenderism has been a known phenomenon for millenia

Yeah it's a shame some have that mental illness and others buy into it and perpetuate it. Either way I am a-ok with people living how they choose to live so trans people don't bother me one bit; what bothers me are those more radical trans and sjw's who want me and others to play pretend with them which I won't do.

[koriwhat]

Low tier poster.

What's your barometer when you are in fact a low tier poster yourself TrannyReck?

[Thread]

Yeah it's a shame some have that mental illness and others buy into it and perpetuate it. Either way I am a-ok with people living how they choose to live so trans people don't bother me one bit; what bothers me are those more radical trans and sjw's who want me and others to play pretend with them which I won't do.


...GD rights, kori.

kori

[spurraider21]

Yeah it's a shame some have that mental illness and others buy into it and perpetuate it. Either way I am a-ok with people living how they choose to live so trans people don't bother me one bit; what bothers me are those more radical trans and sjw's who want me and others to play pretend with them which I won't do.
Good to hear you don’t have a problem with them living how they wish. But there’s nothing to pretend. Nobody is pretending that trans men have Y chromosomes or anything like that. Gender identity is different than sex

[koriwhat]

Good to hear you don’t have a problem with them living how they wish. But there’s nothing to pretend. Nobody is pretending that trans men have Y chromosomes or anything like that. Gender identity is different than sex

yeah yeah with the way yall sjw commies are trying to twist words and redefine things these days... Don't care either way what their issue is. Born a male you're a male, born a female you're a female, and ain't shit changingthat regardless of chopping off body parts or wearing dresses.

[weebo]

yeah yeah with the way yall sjw commies are trying to twist words and redefine things these days... Don't care either way what their issue is. Born a male you're a male, born a female you're a female, and ain't shit changingthat regardless of chopping off body parts or wearing dresses.

run little bitch run...fucking pussy

[spurraider21]

yeah yeah with the way yall sjw commies are trying to twist words and redefine things these days... Don't care either way what their issue is. Born a male you're a male, born a female you're a female, and ain't shit changingthat regardless of chopping off body parts or wearing dresses.
You’re talking about sex, not gender.

[koriwhat]

You’re talking about sex, not gender.

Don't care. You were born with a dick you're a dude, born with a vagina you'r a chick. IDC how you want to define things or claim it's not this or that. You can talk yourself in circles for all I care but fact of the matter is their "identity" is directly correlated to their mental instability. Doesn't mean they're wrong for thinking the way they do or wanting to "transition" but that's their kick and not mine or many others and we don't have to play pretend with them either no matter how hard you try to convince me otherwise.

Like I've stated in the past, I have a few friends who are FtM and one MtF and I respect those friends so I call them by the pronouns they go by. That doesn't mean I have to give af about what others go by because I don't know them personally and they haven't earned jack shit in the respect department. Giving my friends respect also doesn't mean I now believe they are who they "transitioned" into; I just believe them to be good people and want them to feel respected.

[spurraider21]

Don't care. You were born with a dick you're a dude, born with a vagina you'r a chick. IDC how you want to define things or claim it's not this or that. You can talk yourself in circles for all I care but fact of the matter is their "identity" is directly correlated to their mental instability. Doesn't mean they're wrong for thinking the way they do or wanting to "transition" but that's their kick and not mine or many others and we don't have to play pretend with them either no matter how hard you try to convince me otherwise.

Like I've stated in the past, I have a few friends who are FtM and one MtF and I respect those friends so I call them by the pronouns they go by. That doesn't mean I have to give af about what others go by because I don't know them personally and they haven't earned jack shit in the respect department. Giving my friends respect also doesn't mean I now believe they are who they "transitioned" into; I just believe them to be good people and want them to feel respected.
Yeah, just sounds like you view it all under the framework of sex, and don’t really consider gender to be a real thing

[koriwhat]

Yeah, just sounds like you view it all under the framework of sex, and don’t really consider gender to be a real thing

I don't consider make believe to be real... I also know there's not 50+ genders... You're just a psychotic sjw loser who buys into all this bs and even if you're not "transitioning" yourself you're trying to force feed this shit on others just like the radical trans and sjw's, like yourself, that do the same.

[DMC]

or quite literally any article talking about quinn. you'd know they go by they

Three plants on a windowsill. They are doing well. One plant on the floor. It is not doing well.

Anything can be "they" in plural. Funny that "they" don't play on a "they's" team.

[koriwhat]

Those that want to burn our flag should be wrapped in it first and doused in gasoline!

[spurraider21]

I don't consider make believe to be real... I also know there's not 50+ genders... You're just a psychotic sjw loser who buys into all this bs and even if you're not "transitioning" yourself you're trying to force feed this shit on others just like the radical trans and sjw's, like yourself, that do the same.
i get it, you dont have to keep repeating yourself. you view this whole subject through the lens of sex and dont acknowledge gender as a thing

[spurraider21]

Three plants on a windowsill. They are doing well. One plant on the floor. It is not doing well.

Anything can be "they" in plural. Funny that "they" don't play on a "they's" team.
excellent points

oh wait, nevermind. you didnt actually say anything

[koriwhat]

i get it, you dont have to keep repeating yourself. you view this whole subject through the lens of sex and dont acknowledge gender as a thing

And you can keep playing make believe! :tu

Gender is only a spectrum to mentally ill people like you bro.

[spurraider21]

And you can keep playing make believe! :tu

Gender is only a spectrum to mentally ill people like you bro.
even sex is on a spectrum. not everybody falls squarely into male/female

[Blake]

And you can keep playing make believe! :tu

Gender is only a spectrum to mentally ill people like you bro.

Tat science

[koriwhat]

even sex is on a spectrum. not everybody falls squarely into male/female

Don't give a fuck where they fall squarely into... Anomalies are a thing but def not the norm.

[Adam Lambert]

Three plants on a windowsill. They are doing well. One plant on the floor. It is not doing well.

Anything can be "they" in plural. Funny that "they" don't play on a "they's" team.

People of all ideologies use "they" to describe a person whose gender is not known or relevant to the conversation.

"Somebody was seen robbing my car but they got away."

You wouldn't say "it" there. You only call someone "it" if you want to be a derogatory cunt. Or you're the kind of idiot who thinks people are the same as plants.

[spurraider21]

Don't give a fuck where they fall squarely into... Anomalies are a thing but def not the norm.
well yeah, by definition :lol

still, they exist. sex is on a spectrum too.

[koriwhat]

People of all ideologies use "they" to describe a person whose gender is not known or relevant to the conversation.

"Somebody was seen robbing my car but they got away."

You wouldn't say "it" there. You only call someone "it" if you want to be a derogatory cunt. Or you're the kind of idiot who thinks people are the same as plants.

Or you don't play pretend like you do. Hahaha

No one has ever been like, "uh well I couldn't tell their gender.... or their pronouns...", up until recently when all of the world decided to become mentally ill too.

[koriwhat]

well yeah, by definition :lol

still, they exist. sex is on a spectrum too.

Yeah if you're an idiot who believes the bs spread by propagandists on the left. I ain't buying it and never will because it's all a bunch of bullshit to begin with.

[spurraider21]

Yeah if you're an idiot who believes the bs spread by propagandists on the left. I ain't buying it and never will because it's all a bunch of bullshit to begin with.
its literally on a spectrum. on one end, there are males with xy chromosomes, born with a penis, and can reproduce w/ female by creating sperm, etc. on the other end you have females with xx chromosomes, born with a vagina, and reproduce via egg cells they create. but in between you have all sorts of intersex people with different chromosomal compositions, or with genitalia that dont match their chromosomes, etc. and theres a pretty wide range of those conditions, ie on a spectrum.

[spurraider21]

here's a diagram of the sex spectrum, via article from Scientific American

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/sciam/assets/File/Pitch_sketch_final.png

[koriwhat]

but in between you have all sorts of intersex people with different chromosomal compositions, or with genitalia that dont match their chromosomes, etc. and theres a pretty wide range of those conditions, ie on a spectrum.

Anomalies and nothing more than a fraction of a percentage in all of society. Hyperbole ain't going to change that to fit your narrative either.

[spurraider21]

Anomalies and nothing more than a fraction of a percentage in all of society. Hyperbole ain't going to change that to fit your narrative either.
agreed. and yet, they exist on a spectrum, just like you and i

[koriwhat]

agreed. and yet, they exist on a spectrum, just like you and i

Lmao But those with anomalies aren't trying to hijack their anomalies for political and social points. It's regular ass females and males who want to pretend they're not who they are biologically. Again, play pretend with them all you'd like bro it doesn't bother me one bit but you trying your damndest to get me to buy into this nonsense is never going to work.

[spurraider21]

Lmao But those with anomalies aren't trying to hijack their anomalies for political and social points. It's regular ass females and males who want to pretend they're not who they are biologically. Again, play pretend with them all you'd like bro it doesn't bother me one bit but you trying your damndest to get me to buy into this nonsense is never going to work.
nobody's hijacking anything. they just want to live with dignity and not be called mentally ill for being different than you

[koriwhat]

nobody's hijacking anything. they just want to live with dignity and not be called mentally ill for being different than you

They are though no matter how hard you or anyone else tries to convince the masses. It was a mental illness and still is regardless of the pressures to change that. Dignity(respect) isn't given it's earned!

[spurraider21]

They are though no matter how hard you or anyone else tries to convince the masses. It was a mental illness and still is regardless of the pressures to change that. Dignity(respect) isn't given it's earned!
yeah but if you choose to withhold respect because somebody is just being true to themselves and not hurting anybody, i would say that's a you problem

cis people dont do anything special to be treated with dignity, neither should trans people imo

[koriwhat]

yeah but if you choose to withhold respect because somebody is just being true to themselves and not hurting anybody, i would say that's a you problem

cis people dont do anything special to be treated with dignity, neither should trans people imo

I agree. I don't go out of my way to disrespect anyone especially irl. And I doubt most are going around just calling transexuals "mentally ill" to their faces. There's just no reason to skirt around the real issue which is their mental illness and how some are trying to force that onto the whole of our society.

[spurraider21]

I agree. I don't go out of my way to disrespect anyone especially irl. And I doubt most are going around just calling transexuals "mentally ill" to their faces. There's just no reason to skirt around the real issue which is their mental illness and how some are trying to force that onto the whole of our society.
even if you were to deem it a mental illness, the most effective method of treatment from the data we have is to have them express as their gender identity of choice, and to have strong support from immediate family. just telling them that they're mentally ill and basically denying their internal experience as delusion tends to lead to adverse health effects like suicidality

[DMC]

even sex is on a spectrum. not everybody falls squarely into male/female

^case in point

[spurraider21]

^case in point
yes, im on the sex spectrum. as are you. and everybody here.

[DMC]

People of all ideologies use "they" to describe a person whose gender is not known or relevant to the conversation.

"Somebody was seen robbing my car but they got away."

You wouldn't say "it" there. You only call someone "it" if you want to be a derogatory cunt. Or you're the kind of idiot who thinks people are the same as plants.

Was it a human?

Brought to you by the word "it".

[DMC]

yes, im on the sex spectrum. as are you. and everybody here.

So you don't fall squarely into male or female. Good to know.

[SnakeBoy]

So wait, a biological female who is "trans" is on a women's team? Logic be damned! Logic and common sense were always damned when it comes to the regressive ideology of progressivism.

She's trans because she identifies as neither male nor female. It's perfectly logical.

[DMC]

She's trans because she identifies as neither male nor female. It's perfectly logical.

Having no gender identity. Ok. Why is that "trans"? Why is identity itself a transition? You can identify as a starfish if you like, you don't need to morph into one for that to be the case.

[pgardn]

So you don't fall squarely into male or female. Good to know.

Sure.

A particular spot on a ruler is not actually on the ruler. Its not "squarely" on the ruler.

gtfoh you old fart.
everytime you come in with your niggles you get your shit kicked in.

[DMC]

Sure.

A particular spot on a ruler is not actually on the ruler. Its not "squarely" on the ruler.

gtfoh you old fart.
everytime you come in with your niggles you get your shit kicked in.

They are angry. They got embarrassed.

[pgardn]

Having no gender identity. Ok. Why is that "trans"? Why is identity itself a transition? You can identify as a starfish if you like, you don't need to morph into one for that to be the case.

McFly.
They are discussing sex and gender in humans.
OK. Lets try starfish!

[spurraider21]

So you don't fall squarely into male or female. Good to know.
your reading comprehension is awful if you came to that conclusion

i'll refer you to the big chart above

[spurraider21]

Having no gender identity. Ok. Why is that "trans"? Why is identity itself a transition? You can identify as a starfish if you like, you don't need to morph into one for that to be the case.
transgender typically refers to one who does not identify with the gender assigned at birth

you dont have to have undergone surgery or w/e to be transgender

[DMC]

McFly.
They are discussing sex and gender in humans.
OK. Lets try starfish!

Bend over, I'll try your fuckin' starfish

[pgardn]

They are angry. They got embarrassed.

Sure.
A spectrum has to have human feelings.

[DMC]

Sure.
A spectrum has to have human feelings.

Idiot, you made the rule then denied it exists. You're not very good at this.

[pgardn]

Bend over, I'll try your fuckin' starfish

And its rodeo time for grumpa...

[DMC]

And its rodeo time for grumpa...

You bit like a hardhead.

[pgardn]

Idiot, you made the rule then denied it exists. You're not very good at this.

A spectrum implies a continuum.
You dont have to exclude it from something like human height.

Quit trying to tell me what rules I made. Its a fkn word that fits fine into the discussion.
You tried to imply that by my example using the word, points dont have feelings and this somehow... what? Cant be used for humans?
Its disingenuous and another itch you cant rid yourself of when you make stupid arguments.
Your games are really pathetic.

[pgardn]

You bit like a hardhead.

I bite like a hardhead.
ok... if you say so. I made it present tense for you.
Does this ruin the serious discussion?

[ChumpDumper]

DMC never got over being teased for his fatass hands.

[DarrinS]

DMC never got over being teased for his fatass hands.

Lol, obsessed with another man's hands.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol, obsessed with another man's hands.You never got over being wrong about COVID.

[SnakeBoy]

Having no gender identity. Ok. Why is that "trans"? Why is identity itself a transition? You can identify as a starfish if you like, you don't need to morph into one for that to be the case.

If you identify as a starfish and weren't assigned starfish as your sex at birth you can come out as trans because you transitioned to a starfish. It's all very logical because it's scientific. You'll need to decide your pronouns though. Reproducing by ripping one of your arms off would be nice but probably optional.

[DMC]

If you identify as a starfish and weren't assigned starfish as your sex at birth you can come out as trans because you transitioned to a starfish. It's all very logical because it's scientific. You'll need to decide your pronouns though. Reproducing by ripping one of your arms off would be nice but probably optional.

What if I feel like I have ripped my arms off even if you don't agree?

[DMC]

I bite like a hardhead.
ok... if you say so. I made it present tense for you.
Does this ruin the serious discussion?

I like it when you think anyone takes you seriously and you start your Cliff Clavin speech.

[DMC]

Lol, obsessed with another man's hands.

Pretty sure this isn't his first rodeo with other men's hands.

[DMC]

transgender typically refers to one who does not identify with the gender assigned at birth

you dont have to have undergone surgery or w/e to be transgender

Oddly the transgendered person isn't playing on the non-gender team. Why did you miss that the first time? Are you that dense? If they don't assign gender to themselves, why not play on the men's team instead of the women's team?

[Winehole23]

call em a woman or a tranny.

if that doesn't work just gaybait em.

[spurraider21]

Oddly the transgendered person isn't playing on the non-gender team. Why did you miss that the first time? Are you that dense? If they don't assign gender to themselves, why not play on the men's team instead of the women's team?
There isn’t a non gender event. This is called inclusion. You find a place for people

[SnakeBoy]

What if I feel like I have ripped my arms off even if you don't agree?

As long as after you feel like you have ripped your arms off you feel like they turned into clones of you, your starfish identity remains intact. That's how science works.

[SnakeBoy]

What if I feel like I have ripped my arms off even if you don't agree?

As long as after you feel like you have ripped your arms off you feel like they turned into clones of you, your starfish identity remains intact. That's how science works.

[ChumpDumper]

Pretty sure this isn't his first rodeo with other men's hands.You also completely lost your shit when I corrected your usage of of imply/infer.:lol

[DMC]

As long as after you feel like you have ripped your arms off you feel like they turned into clones of you, your starfish identity remains intact. That's how science works.

Unless I decide otherwise. Don't try to force your science on me.

[DMC]

There isn’t a non gender event. This is called inclusion. You find a place for people

Why not be included with the men's group?

[pgardn]

I like it when you think anyone takes you seriously and you start your Cliff Clavin speech.

DMC playing the role of... anyone!
Starring DMC, anointing himself arbiter of the truth and ruler of the middle ground.
A serious man will tell you if anyone (himself) takes one seriously. More insight, please...

[spurraider21]

Why not be included with the men's group?
Probably wouldn’t have made it onto the team. And they’d been playing and training with the women’s team all along. No competitive issues. You think the men’s team would have been the better option?

[Winehole23]

DMC playing the role of... anyone!
Starring DMC, anointing himself arbiter of the truth and ruler of the middle ground.
A serious man will tell you if anyone (himself) takes one seriously. More insight, please...Uber-Kantian

"Individual morality gives universal laws"

[koriwhat]

even if you were to deem it a mental illness, the most effective method of treatment from the data we have is to have them express as their gender identity of choice, and to have strong support from immediate family. just telling them that they're mentally ill and basically denying their internal experience as delusion tends to lead to adverse health effects like suicidality

No one is denying them anything nor is there this overwhelming chant of "mental illness" just like there's no real threat of "white supremacy". Hyperbole from progressives isn't reality.

In the end lying to others and playing pretend with them puts us all in a heap of trouble.

[spurraider21]

No one is denying them anything nor is there this overwhelming chant of "mental illness" just like there's no real threat of "white supremacy". Hyperbole from progressives isn't reality.

In the end lying to others and playing pretend with them puts us all in a heap of trouble.
nobody is asking you to lie or pretend either. you've already said you respect trans people you know and use what name/pronoun they prefer so it seems that functionally speaking we agree on this.

[koriwhat]

nobody is asking you to lie or pretend either. you've already said you respect trans people you know and use what name/pronoun they prefer so it seems that functionally speaking we agree on this.

:tu

[DMC]

Probably wouldn’t have made it onto the team. And they’d been playing and training with the women’s team all along. No competitive issues. You think the men’s team would have been the better option?

Bingo. Give that man his money.

[spurraider21]

Bingo. Give that man his money.
do you think Quinn should have been restricted to playing on the men's team?

[koriwhat]

do you think Quinn should have been restricted to playing on the men's team?

Yes. Quinn is after all a male, not a female.

[spurraider21]

Yes. Quinn is after all a male, not a female.
uhh, no. Quinn was born female and went by Rebecca Quinn

[koriwhat]

uhh, no. Quinn was born female and went by Rebecca Quinn

I got the threads mixed up... Lol I was referring to the bmx dude; my bad!

[koriwhat]

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[Winehole23]

aside: Christina Jorgenson

the 1950s didn't quite know what to do with her

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