Anti-vax morons dying from COVID thread.

[RandomGuy]

https://pm1.narvii.com/6024/14b92d597c2096998fab56b139ab6a70367056bc_hq.jpg

Dick Farrel, 65, used his local talk show and social media to rail against Dr. Anthony Fauci, who he called a “power tripping lying freak,” and say that no one should get the coronavirus vaccine. When COVID-19 sent him to the hospital for three weeks, though, he changed his tune, urging friends to get vaccinated, friends told local station WPTV.
https://news.yahoo.com/anti-vaxxer-florida-radio-host-191433478.html


Ooops.

[Spurtacular]

Pity post.

[RandomGuy]

https://pm1.narvii.com/6024/14b92d597c2096998fab56b139ab6a70367056bc_hq.jpg

A GOP official from Texas who regularly espoused anti-vaccine and anti-mask views online has died from COVID-19, five days after posting a meme on Facebook questioning the wisdom of getting inoculated against COVID.

Dickinson City Council member and State Republican Executive Committee member H. Scott Apley, 45, died in a local hospital around 3 a.m. Wednesday morning, according to a GoFundMe page set up to help Apley’s family with expenses. He was admitted to the facility in Galveston on Sunday with “pneumonia-like symptoms,” and was hooked up to a ventilator as his condition worsened. His wife was also infected, the family said.

“He leaves behind his wife, Melissa, who is COVID positive, as well as their infant son Reid,” according to the fundraiser, which has so far raised almost $15,000 of its $30,000 goal. “Your donations are greatly appreciated and will help the family as they get through this difficult period.”
https://www.thedailybeast.com/h-scott-apley-chair-of-galveston-county-texas-gop-mocked-covid-days-before-he-died-of-virus


Bonus points for having to have a GOFUNDME to pay the bills.

Single payer... just sayin...

[RandomGuy]

Pity post.

Ok then. I pity you.

Feel better?

[DarrinS]

Gross

[RandomGuy]

Gross

Anti-fact, anti-science and proud of it.

Just.
Like.
Climate.
Change.

[spurraider21]

kidna ghoulish thread

[Spurtacular]

:cry Pretend death causes :cry

Certainly redundant.

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286207&p=10188676&viewfull=1#post10188676

[baseline bum]

https://pm1.narvii.com/6024/14b92d597c2096998fab56b139ab6a70367056bc_hq.jpg

Dick Farrel, 65, used his local talk show and social media to rail against Dr. Anthony Fauci, who he called a “power tripping lying freak,” and say that no one should get the coronavirus vaccine. When COVID-19 sent him to the hospital for three weeks, though, he changed his tune, urging friends to get vaccinated, friends told local station WPTV.
https://news.yahoo.com/anti-vaxxer-florida-radio-host-191433478.html


Ooops.

LOL this quote "I can only say this was so unexpected"
LOL no 100% expected when you're an antivax tard who does nothing to protect yourself (or others)

[baseline bum]

Don't get the cartoon though, what's that about?

[Ef-man]

kidna ghoulish thread

Ghoulish would be innocent people being cause unaware.

This is all careless self-inflicted shooting, Darwin Award winning, and hold my beer bubba fatalities at their best.

[spurraider21]

Ghoulish would be innocent people being cause unaware.

This is all careless self-inflicted shooting, Darwin Award winning, and hold my beer bubba fatalities at their best.
to be fair, some people are victims of the disinformation... though yeah i'm significantly less sympathetic to people like who is referenced in the OP who is actively spewing the anti-vax propaganda

[Adam Lambert]

Gross

When you continue to enable and side with people who actively cause covid-related deaths through policy and disinformation, you don't get to clutch your pearls over other people not treating those covid-related deaths with the proper amount of consideration.

[Will Hunting]

The virgin anti-vaxxer vs. the Chad delta variant imo

[Will Hunting]

to be fair, some people are victims of the disinformation... though yeah i'm significantly less sympathetic to people like who is referenced in the OP who is actively spewing the anti-vax propaganda
Being nice to them and calling them victims clearly isn’t working. We’ve been trying to carrot for months with anti-vaxxers, now it’s time to get the stick.

[hater]

1 to 2 % of anti vax morons will die according to the science.

That means 98% of the anti vax morons will survive the virus.

[Will Hunting]

I might go to Canada and get a 3rd dose to beat the rush before they’re FDA approved and everyone else starts getting one.

[spurraider21]

Being nice to them and calling them victims clearly isn’t working. We’ve been trying to carrot for months with anti-vaxxers, now it’s time to get the stick.
i mean yeah, i'm for mandates generally. i dont think dancing on graves of random conservatards is going to "work" either. its just making yourself feel better

[DarrinS]

I might go to Canada and get a 3rd dose to beat the rush before they’re FDA approved and everyone else starts getting one.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.3d4adbd3db5a7a131ee2279e80b0a1f9?rik=A9Rq63H6rhC GBQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pleated-jeans.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2014%2f07%2fNumberOne.gif&ehk=3h6ZPgAv8aX3WXBUzCKxTr6JW8olDx3qpfsn%2fcxSNT4% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

[spurraider21]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.3d4adbd3db5a7a131ee2279e80b0a1f9?rik=A9Rq63H6rhC GBQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pleated-jeans.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2014%2f07%2fNumberOne.gif&ehk=3h6ZPgAv8aX3WXBUzCKxTr6JW8olDx3qpfsn%2fcxSNT4% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
well over 600k dead americans and darrin still pretending everything is fine

[ChumpDumper]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.3d4adbd3db5a7a131ee2279e80b0a1f9?rik=A9Rq63H6rhC GBQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pleated-jeans.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2014%2f07%2fNumberOne.gif&ehk=3h6ZPgAv8aX3WXBUzCKxTr6JW8olDx3qpfsn%2fcxSNT4% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
Darrin kicking kids out of his house.

[hater]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.3d4adbd3db5a7a131ee2279e80b0a1f9?rik=A9Rq63H6rhC GBQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pleated-jeans.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2014%2f07%2fNumberOne.gif&ehk=3h6ZPgAv8aX3WXBUzCKxTr6JW8olDx3qpfsn%2fcxSNT4% 3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

:lol

[ElNono]

I think this goes here...


Hello, meet Dr Darwin...

1423805665001287681

[DarrinS]

well over 600k dead americans and darrin still pretending everything is fine

No. :lol

I'm just laughing that Will wants a booster shot.

[Will Hunting]

i mean yeah, i'm for mandates generally. i dont think dancing on graves of random conservatards is going to "work" either. its just making yourself feel better
Well yeah that doesn’t work, it just deserves celebrating because conservatives dying off is a good thing.

[DarrinS]

Darrin kicking kids out of his house.

Nope. Still here.

[spurraider21]

No. :lol

I'm just laughing that Will wants a booster shot.
how is that funny? booster shots like like they're on the way. i'm signing up for one as soon as they're approved for use

[hater]

Well yeah that doesn’t work, it just deserves celebrating because conservatives dying off is a good thing.

Blacks and hispanics are dying of covid right now at a great clip.

The myth that only.conservatards.are anti mask is that....

Just a myth

[Will Hunting]

No. :lol

I'm just laughing that Will wants a booster shot.
I might even mix and match. Get a Pfizer to go with my 2 Modernas, a COVID vaccine cocktail.

[ChumpDumper]

I might go to Canada and get a 3rd dose to beat the rush before they’re FDA approved and everyone else starts getting one.You could probably just go to a different state if you wanted to go that route. Don't see how you're at much risk at this point though.

I might even mix and match. Get a Pfizer to go with my 2 Modernas, a COVID vaccine cocktail.
Get some Janssen for real variety.

[Will Hunting]

Blacks and hispanics are dying of covid right now at a great clip.

The myth that only.conservatards.are anti mask is that....

Just a myth
I didn’t say it’s only conservatives dying and you’re right minorities are anti-vaxxers to (:cry muh Tuskegee Experiment :cry), but I’m not celebrating the death of blacks and Hispanics. Just conservatives :lol

[Will Hunting]

You could probably just go to a different state if you wanted to go that route. Don't see how you're at much risk at this point though.

Get some Janssen for real variety.
:lol I’m totally joking, I’m not going to go to Canada just to get an unapproved booster shot

[ElNono]

No. :lol

I'm just laughing that Will wants a booster shot.

What's funny about that?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol I’m totally joking, I’m not going to go to Canada just to get an unapproved booster shotGotcha.

I'm not doubting some people are doing this though. I hope something better comes down the pike for the immunosuppressed.

[ElNono]

Actually, the Canadian vax was showing some promise a while ago, not sure where that's at. It was a completely different type of vax as well. IIRC, plant-based.

[DarrinS]

I might even mix and match. Get a Pfizer to go with my 2 Modernas, a COVID vaccine cocktail.

You don't have much confidence in the vaccine you already had?

[Will Hunting]

You don't have much confidence in the vaccine you already had?
I should have used blue font, I’m saying (in the form of a joke) that I love the vaccine so much I want to take another one.

[Will Hunting]

There are studies being done on booster shots that show someone who’s taken Moderna getting a Pfizer booster does actually cause a huge uptick in immunity but obv I’ll wait for FDA approval on det one.

[Adam Lambert]

What's funny about that?

Same thing that was funny to him about people calling Covid a pandemic a year and a half ago. Stupid motherfucker is consistently on the wrong side of history and still has the unearned confidence to keep talking about anything.

[vy65]

Don't see why hospitals shouldn't refuse services to anti-vaxxers who show up to their doors with :cry sniffles :cry

[ChumpDumper]

Nope. Still here.Now that they're vaccinated.:lol

[Will Hunting]

Don't see why hospitals shouldn't refuse services to anti-vaxxers who show up to their doors with :cry sniffles :cry
Health insurance providers should be allowed to jack their premiums up too. The kid gloves need to come off.

[spurraider21]

Don't see why hospitals shouldn't refuse services to anti-vaxxers who show up to their doors with :cry sniffles :cry
hippocratic oath

[vy65]

Health insurance providers should be allowed to jack their premiums up too. The kid gloves need to come off.

They shouldn't cover the treatment either. And I say that even though I fucking loathe insurance companies.

[vy65]

hippocratic oath

Fuck that though. These people are dangers to themselves and others. Hippocratic oath just enables them to avoid the consequences of their actions -- which is something that conservatives are all about supposedly.

[Will Hunting]

They shouldn't cover the treatment either. And I say that even though I fucking loathe insurance companies.
Yeah same, but anti-vaxxers objectively should cost more to cover and we shouldn’t be paying higher premiums to subsidize their conspiracy theory wet dreams.

[Spurs Homer]

Just saw a doctor saying his hospital had 128 deaths

128 of them= UNvaxxed

ZERO vaxxed people among the dead

but-but- the Gubmint! Muh freedumb!

[spurraider21]

Fuck that though. These people are dangers to themselves and others. Hippocratic oath just enables them to avoid the consequences of their actions -- which is something that conservatives are all about supposedly.
its not a doctor's job to refuse service to patients based on their political hypocrisy

[Will Hunting]

Saying hospitals should deny them care isn’t about just being a dick to anti-vaxxers, it’s about our healthcare system not collapsing and ensuring hospitals have an open bed for the guy who’s having a stroke. There’s already been several recent non-COVID deaths in hospitals caused by the lack of staffing/availability to provide care. It’s not the same thing as a year ago, these people shouldn’t be allowed to fill up our hospital beds for what was easily preventable.

[Spurs Homer]

DUCKS swoops in to spam the first two pages in...5,4,3....

[vy65]

its not a doctor's job to refuse service to patients based on their political hypocrisy

It should be. The need to hospitalize an anti-vaxxer for COVID is a problem -- which endangers others and is hurting the economy, again -- is entirely of their own doing. Emphasizing a creed from several millenia ago that didn't envision this scenario (or this stupidity) is extremely counterproductive. It's the same logic behind NRA nuts who jerk off to the 2nd amendment or state's rights morons who don't realize what the 14th amendment means.

[Trill Clinton]

I didn’t say it’s only conservatives dying and you’re right minorities are anti-vaxxers to (:cry muh Tuskegee Experiment :cry), but I’m not celebrating the death of blacks and Hispanics. Just conservatives :lol

The black people who are anti-vax have no knowledge of the Tuskegee experiments. Most of the black people who haven't been vaccinated are either poor and don't have access to getting the vaccine. Then you have the "new blacks" who identify with conservatives and parrot the conservative talking points.

[Will Hunting]

Seriously though hater does have a point, only 25% of black Americans are vaccinated. Why does the media let their stupidity off the hook and only focus on white conservatives?

[Will Hunting]

The black people who are anti-vax have no knowledge of the Tuskegee experiments. Most of the black people who haven't been vaccinated are either poor and don't have access to getting the vaccine. Then you have the "new blacks" who identify with conservatives and parrot the conservative talking points.
1) The vaccine is free, so being poor isn’t an excuse.

2) Where in this country does one not have access to the vaccine? It’s in every state, rich areas an poor areas.

[Frenchfred]

It will be interesting when republicans lose the elections because too many of them would have died of covid.

[Will Hunting]

Most importantly, where are the black and Hispanic pastors, community leaders, politicians, etc. trying to rally their communities to get vaccinated? Jim Clyburn spent 3 days up in Ohio for a primary election that didn’t even matter since the seat is deep blue, why wouldn’t he go back to his district instead to get his constituents vaccinated?

[spurraider21]

It should be. The need to hospitalize an anti-vaxxer for COVID is a problem -- which endangers others and is hurting the economy, again -- is entirely of their own doing. Emphasizing a creed from several millenia ago that didn't envision this scenario (or this stupidity) is extremely counterproductive. It's the same logic behind NRA nuts who jerk off to the 2nd amendment or state's rights morons who don't realize what the 14th amendment means.
opens up a ridiculous precedent... southern doctor refusing to treat a woman who is having complications following an abortion, etc

imo this is nutty vindictive thinking

[RandomGuy]

Saying hospitals should deny them care isn’t about just being a dick to anti-vaxxers, it’s about our healthcare system not collapsing and ensuring hospitals have an open bed for the guy who’s having a stroke. There’s already been several recent non-COVID deaths in hospitals caused by the lack of staffing/availability to provide care. It’s not the same thing as a year ago, these people shouldn’t be allowed to fill up our hospital beds for what was easily preventable.

Exactly. Their ability to swing the arms of their own stupidity stops at my nose.

If I die from treatable injuries in a car wreck, because these stupid shits filled up the local hospital, and the ambulance had to drive an extra 30 miles, then their stupidity has wider consequences, and I have paid the price for their intransigence.

That absolutely gives me a say in their fucking healthcare decisions.

[spurraider21]

The black people who are anti-vax have no knowledge of the Tuskegee experiments. Most of the black people who haven't been vaccinated are either poor and don't have access to getting the vaccine. Then you have the "new blacks" who identify with conservatives and parrot the conservative talking points.
black conservatives are a small fraction of the black population. the vaccine is free and you can get them on weekends almost anywhere.

[ducks]

People died before covid

[spurraider21]

Exactly. Their ability to swing the arms of their own stupidity stops at my nose.

If I die from treatable injuries in a car wreck, because these stupid shits filled up the local hospital, and the ambulance had to drive an extra 30 miles, then their stupidity has wider consequences, and I have paid the price for their intransigence.
should doctors be able to refuse to treat serious injuries someone suffered in a car accident if the patient was a drunk driver? imo there's no way you guys actually believe this principle but are just being spiteful/vindictive

[RandomGuy]

opens up a ridiculous precedent... southern doctor refusing to treat a woman who is having complications following an abortion, etc

imo this is nutty vindictive thinking

Triage and ultimately rationing care are absolutely within precedent though. I am for refusing care for COVID once you start approaching capacity at ICUs and acute care, to save otherwise preventable deaths. "go somewhere else".

They have contingency plans for just that at all pandemic responses.

[Will Hunting]

Poor people don't know it's free. Lack of transportation. Whats the rate of young vs old black people?
They don’t know because they haven’t bothered to check because they’re intentionally looking for ways to confirm their bias against the vaccine and don’t want to be confronted with facts they can’t defend.. This is why defending anti-vaxxers is so stupid, you’re blindly giving them the benefit of the doubt just for the sake of it.

Also GMAFB with “lack of transportation.” Are you saying they literally don’t have the means to leave their house and go to CVS? When they need to buy toothpaste, how does that work?

[RandomGuy]

should doctors be able to refuse to treat serious injuries someone suffered in a car accident if the patient was a drunk driver? imo there's no way you guys actually believe this principle but are just being spiteful/vindictive

Not quite what I believe though. See above.

[spurraider21]

Triage and ultimately rationing care are absolutely within precedent though. I am for refusing care for COVID once you start approaching capacity at ICUs and acute care, to save otherwise preventable deaths. "go somewhere else".

They have contingency plans for just that at all pandemic responses.
ok so you send the sick contagious people home and they continue spreading it. great solution!

[RandomGuy]

People died before covid

classic ducks. :lol

[boutons_deux]

the medical bills to unvaxxed assholes very probably exceed their ability to pay and may not be fully covered by insurance.

So the medical costs by rabidly anti-socialist assholes will be socialized.

Insurance premiums hiked for the entire insurance pool, taxpayer $100Ms down the drain.

[RandomGuy]

ok so you send the sick contagious people home and they continue spreading it. great solution!

Bit of a stretch. if the hospital reaches capacity that is happening anyway.

"ok so you send someone bleeding to death from internal injuries home and they just die there. great solution"

is the obvious rejoinder.

Of course you send COVID patients somewhere else. All I am saying is reserve the last sliver of ICU acute care for non-COVID emergencies.

[Will Hunting]

The “You can’t get mad at them you have to be thoughtful and listen to their concerns and reasons why they aren’t vaccinated” Democuck is quite frankly more insufferable than the anti-vaxxer conservative. Its trying to manufacture good faith concern when their isn’t any. Being an anti-vaxxer is ultimately rooted in just being a contrarian who wants to tell everyone their wrong and he’s right. There’s no good faith concern about the vaccine for people who aren’t immunocompromised, it’s been insanely effective so far and was a medical miracle. By far the best achievement of Trump’s presidency.

[RandomGuy]

the medical bills to unvaxxed assholes very probably exceed their ability to pay and may not be fully covered by insurance.

So the medical costs by rabidly anti-socialist assholes will be socialized.

Insurance premiums hiked for the entire insurance pool, taxpayer $100Ms down the drain.

Solid take.

We will be paying higher insurance premiums for all these fuckwits.

[spurraider21]

Bit of a stretch. if the hospital reaches capacity that is happening anyway.

"ok so you send someone bleeding to death from internal injuries home and they just die there. great solution"

is the obvious rejoinder.

Of course you send COVID patients somewhere else. All I am saying is reserve the last sliver of ICU acute care for non-COVID emergencies.
how many people dying of internal injuries have been sent home to die as a result of covid?

if it was really getting that dire, i'd be in favor of state or federal intervention. send in the cavalry. send in FEMA. but you dont just send people home to die, this is bonkers

[vy65]

its not a doctor's job to refuse service to patients based on their political hypocrisy

It should be. The need to hospitalize an anti-vaxxer for COVID is a problem -- which endangers others and is hurting the economy, again -- is entirely of their own doing. Emphasizing a creed from several millenia ago that didn't envision this scenario (or this stupidity) is extremely counterproductive. It's the same logic behind NRA nuts who jerk off to the 2nd amendment or state's rights morons who don't realize what the 14th amendment means.

[Will Hunting]

Refusing service to anti-vaxxers isn’t about political hypocrisy, it’s about contributory negligence and intentional self harm.

[RandomGuy]

The “You can’t get mad at them you have to be thoughtful and listen to their concerns and reasons why they aren’t vaccinated” Democuck is quite frankly more insufferable than the anti-vaxxer conservative. Its trying to manufacture good faith concern when their isn’t any. Being an anti-vaxxer is ultimately rooted in just being a contrarian who wants to tell everyone their wrong and he’s right. There’s no good faith concern about the vaccine for people who aren’t immunocompromised, it’s been insanely effective so far and was a medical miracle. By far the best achievement of Trump’s presidency.

Eyup.

I have come to realize that there are vast swaths of the population for whom good-faith arguments are pointless.

[Will Hunting]

Eyup.

I have come to realize that there are vast swaths of the population for whom good-faith arguments are pointless.
Treating them nicely and pretending their “concerns” about the vaccine (that they’re usually doing fuck all to actually investigate and talk to a doctor about) are valid is literally the worst thing you can do. You’re giving them the attention they’re seeking as hipster anti-vaxxer guy. The best way to get them vaccinated is to say “get the fuck out of my restaurant you selfish piece of shit. Come back when you grow up and stop doing edgy shit just to get attention.”

[RandomGuy]

A lot of people will avoid the hospitals full with delta and will die due to not seeing a doctor.

This was always the danger, as I have been pointing out since day one.

300,000 total hospital beds for 300,000,000 million people. That is total hospital beds, not ICU/acute care with is even less than that.

All you need is to suddenly have a need to hospitalize somewhere around 0.01% to 0.1% of the population at once, and you have filled up every open ICU/acute care bed in the country.

[vy65]

opens up a ridiculous precedent... southern doctor refusing to treat a woman who is having complications following an abortion, etc

imo this is nutty vindictive thinking

A precedent of denying care to patients who could have avoided their illness at absolutely no cost but chose to be fucking retarded instead is a good standard.

[boutons_deux]

Fox News viewership is directly tied to lower vaccination rates
86% (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/opinion/covid-vaccine-hesitancy.html)of adult Democrats have received at least one dose of the vaccine, compared to just 52% (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/opinion/covid-vaccine-hesitancy.html) of Republicans.

one peer-reviewed study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7794597/) determined that viewers of Fox News were statistically more likely to say they would refuse the COVID-19 vaccines than viewers of CNN or MSNBC. This appeared to confirm two prior (https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w27237/w27237.pdf)(non peer-reviewed) studie (https://www.research-collection.ethz.ch/bitstream/handle/20.500.11850/427768/1/CLE_WP_2020_10.pdf)s which showed a measurable correlation between Fox News viewership and refusal to comply with stay-at home orders issued by governmental agencies to contain the spread of the virus. A Pew survey (https://www.amanewyork.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/20.04.01.PewResearch.CableTVAndCoronavirusHowAmeri cansPerceiveTheOutbreakAndViewMediaCoverageDifferB yMainNewsSource.pdf)also conducted last year confirmed that Fox News viewers were also more likely than their CNN/MSNBC watching peers to believe that the media had "greatly exaggerated" the pandemic; others (https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/42661740/April19_FORMATTED_COVID-19-Survey.pdf?sequence=1)showed that viewers of conservative news outlets felt that CDC reports were being deliberately slanted to undermine the Trump administration.

https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/fox-news/

[hater]

Blacks and hispanics are dying of covid right now at a great clip.

The myth that only.conservatards.are anti mask is that....

Just a myth

Crickets (besides will)

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Fox News viewership is directly tied to lower vaccination rates


86% (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/opinion/covid-vaccine-hesitancy.html)of adult Democrats have received at least one dose of the vaccine,

compared to just 52% (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/opinion/covid-vaccine-hesitancy.html) of Republicans.

one peer-reviewed study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7794597/) determined that viewers of Fox News were statistically more likely to say they would refuse the COVID-19 vaccines than viewers of CNN or MSNBC.

This appeared to confirm two prior (https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w27237/w27237.pdf)(non peer-reviewed) studie (https://www.research-collection.ethz.ch/bitstream/handle/20.500.11850/427768/1/CLE_WP_2020_10.pdf)s which showed a measurable correlation between Fox News viewership and refusal to comply with stay-at home orders issued by governmental agencies to contain the spread of the virus.

A Pew survey (https://www.amanewyork.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/20.04.01.PewResearch.CableTVAndCoronavirusHowAmeri cansPerceiveTheOutbreakAndViewMediaCoverageDifferB yMainNewsSource.pdf)also conducted last year confirmed that Fox News viewers were also more likely than their CNN/MSNBC watching peers to believe that the media had "greatly exaggerated" the pandemic;

others (https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/42661740/April19_FORMATTED_COVID-19-Survey.pdf?sequence=1)showed that viewers of conservative news outlets felt that CDC reports were being deliberately slanted to undermine the Trump administration.

https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/fox-news/

Murdoch family is homicidal, to keep the advertising profits pouring in.

[spurraider21]

A precedent of denying care to patients who could have avoided their illness at absolutely no cost but chose to be fucking retarded instead is a good standard.
ok. so refuse medical treatment to smokers, drunk drivers, people who eat too much fast food, etc

[spurraider21]

The “You can’t get mad at them you have to be thoughtful and listen to their concerns and reasons why they aren’t vaccinated” Democuck is quite frankly more insufferable than the anti-vaxxer conservative. Its trying to manufacture good faith concern when their isn’t any. Being an anti-vaxxer is ultimately rooted in just being a contrarian who wants to tell everyone their wrong and he’s right. There’s no good faith concern about the vaccine for people who aren’t immunocompromised, it’s been insanely effective so far and was a medical miracle. By far the best achievement of Trump’s presidency.
you yourself are ok with being this "democuck" when it comes to black/hispanic folk who are unvaccinated. you only want to dance on the graves of the white conservatives. its pure spite

[ElNono]

Hospitals can't turn patients away by law (thank you Reagan)... now the whole insurance premium thing makes sense. The problem is that you have States like Texas were a lot of these retards reside which happens to also have the lowest amount of insured people in America.

[Will Hunting]

Crickets (besides will)

:lmao
Well to be fair we haven’t heard crickets, apparently a lot of poor people can’t afford a vaccine that….checking notes….is free? :lmao

[vy65]

ok so you send the sick contagious people home and they continue spreading it. great solution!

Who are they going to spread it to? Other anti-vaxxers?

Accountability and social responsibility matter. The costs of treating anti-vaxxers are ultimately shared in rising health care premiums. ICU space is zero-sum and the beds they take up are ones that can't be used by truly innocent victims. There's simply no justification at this point for not being vaccinated. And there's no moral high road to treating these idiots in spite of themselves because we're seeing cate being denied to other non-covid patients. And that has nothing to do with the economic and social costs this is exacting as shut downs are becoming likely again.

[Adam Lambert]

Yeah same, but anti-vaxxers objectively should cost more to cover and we shouldn’t be paying higher premiums to subsidize their conspiracy theory wet dreams.

It just makes sense. Bad drivers pay more, unhealthy people pay more, why shouldn't unvaccinated idiots pay more?

[hater]

Well to be fair we haven’t heard crickets, apparently a lot of poor people can’t afford a vaccine that….checking notes….is free? :lmao

:lmao

The Obama blacks and hispanics prefer a 6 pack to a vaccine tbqh

Morons lets dance on their graves.:lol

[spurraider21]

It just makes sense. Bad drivers pay more, unhealthy people pay more, why shouldn't unvaccinated idiots pay more?
paying more is one thing. refusing medical service and sending them home to die is different

[ElNono]

Also, there's really no excuse for my hispanic bros not to be vaccinated. I don't know what the deal is with african americans, but I can't think of a good reason either.

[Will Hunting]

you yourself are ok with being this "democuck" when it comes to black/hispanic folk who are unvaccinated. you only want to dance on the graves of the white conservatives. its pure spite
Strawman. I’m talking about calling anti-vaxxers stupid here and I’m 100% in favor of calling black and Hispanic anti-vaxxers braindead over-religious n!ggers and spics. That’s different than dancing on their grave when they die.

[DarrinS]

ok. so refuse medical treatment to smokers, drunk drivers, people who eat too much fast food, etc

Sounds progressive

[Adam Lambert]

paying more is one thing. refusing medical service and sending them home to die is different

Of course.

[spurraider21]

Who are they going to spread it to? Other anti-vaxxers?

Accountability and social responsibility matter. The costs of treating anti-vaxxers are ultimately shared in rising health care premiums. ICU space is zero-sum and the beds they take up are ones that can't be used by truly innocent victims. There's simply no justification at this point for not being vaccinated. And there's no moral high road to treating these idiots in spite of themselves because we're seeing cate being denied to other non-covid patients. And that has nothing to do with the economic and social costs this is exacting as shut downs are becoming likely again.
children who are too young to get vaccinated. people who are immunocompromised. vulnerable people who are vaccinated and yet become breakthrough cases.

[spurraider21]

Sounds progressive
its not. thats why i've been vehemently arguing against this concept

[vy65]

ok. so refuse medical treatment to smokers, drunk drivers, people who eat too much fast food, etc

None of these are analogous. There's a free vaccine. Smokers and fat fucks like DMC aren't contagion risks. And I'd be fine with treating anti-vaxxers if, at the end of their treatment, they had a felony conviction like DWI criminals. And none of these three are putting a strain on limited hospital resources.

[vy65]

children who are too young to get vaccinated. people who are immunocompromised. vulnerable people who are vaccinated and yet become breakthrough cases.

Are children and HIV patients going to hang out with Cletus after he returns from being turned down at the ER?

[spurraider21]

Strawman. I’m talking about calling anti-vaxxers stupid here and I’m 100% in favor of calling black and Hispanic anti-vaxxers braindead over-religious n!ggers and spics. That’s different than dancing on their grave when they die.

this is what happens when you make these moral claims on the fly instead of really thinking things out for a minute. even when acknowledging that minorities are anti-vax, you specifically excluded them from your spiking the football on graves celebration


I didn’t say it’s only conservatives dying and you’re right minorities are anti-vaxxers to (:cry muh Tuskegee Experiment :cry), but I’m not celebrating the death of blacks and Hispanics. Just conservatives :lol

[spurraider21]

Are children and HIV patients going to hang out with Cletus after he returns from being turned down at the ER?
if its Cletus' kids and his mom that lives in the trailer next door, maybe

[hater]

Also, there's really no excuse for my hispanic bros not to be vaccinated. I don't know what the deal is with african americans, but I can't think of a good reason either.

Easy theyre morons and deserve to die.

Just less votes for Biden 2024 Cheers :tu :lol

[Will Hunting]

children who are too young to get vaccinated. people who are immunocompromised. vulnerable people who are vaccinated and yet become breakthrough cases.
That’s already happening at uncontainable levels whether you treat them or send them home.

im willing to compromise. The same way The Inglorious Bastards carved a swastika into the forehead of every Nazi they showed mercy to, anti-vaxxers can get treated for COVID if they get “ANTI-VAX” carved into their forehead with a machete..

[spurraider21]

None of these are analogous. There's a free vaccine. Smokers and fat fucks like DMC aren't contagion risks. And I'd be fine with treating anti-vaxxers if, at the end of their treatment, they had a felony conviction like DWI criminals. And none of these three are putting a strain on limited hospital resources.
this is moving the goalpost. the arguments ITT were never about it being contagious (if you actually considered that factor, you would never say something so retarded as to refuse medical treatment to these people). it was about people willingly putting themselves at risk, which is completely analogous to the examples above

[Will Hunting]

this is what happens when you make these moral claims on the fly instead of really thinking things out for a minute. even when acknowledging that minorities are anti-vax, you specifically excluded them from your spiking the football on graves celebration
And I don’t deny that. I’ll still call them idiots for being anti-vaxxers. You’re creating a strawman by trying to merry these two things. I can call someone a stupid anti-vaxxer n!gger but not dance on his grave when he dies.

[Thread]

That’s already happening at uncontainable levels whether you treat them or send them home.

im willing to compromise. The same way The Inglorious Bastards carved a swastika into the forehead of every Nazi they showed mercy to, anti-vaxxers can get treated for COVID if they get “ANTI-VAX” carved into their forehead with a machete..

tee, hee.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Chumpettes think they get to ignore all the real science and then come here and clutch their vaginas.

We got the numbers. Your beta support group not gonna change that.

[DarrinS]

its not. thats why i've been vehemently arguing against this concept

I know. I was being sarcastic

[spurraider21]

And I don’t deny that. I’ll still call them idiots for being anti-vaxxers. You’re creating a strawman by trying to merry these two things. I can call someone a stupid anti-vaxxer n!gger but not dance on his grave when he dies.
well if you're vouching for medical institutions to refuse treatment nonetheless, its as good as dancing on their graves imo

[vy65]

if its Cletus' kids and his mom that lives in the trailer next door, maybe

Then they can go stay with their mom who's also their older sister. This scenario is pretty far off track from reality.

[spurraider21]

will legitimately carries a lot of the cliche berniebro toxicity, i'm just glad he's not one of those dumbfucks than stan for stalin/mao :lol

[vy65]

this is moving the goalpost. the arguments ITT were never about it being contagious (if you actually considered that factor, you would never say something so retarded as to refuse medical treatment to these people). it was about people willingly putting themselves at risk, which is completely analogous to the examples above

What? One of my first few posts said they're a danger to themselves and others - that was always an argument that was made.

Also, having had a really bad case of covid, I can tell you that people who are so sick as to need hospital care are not going out in public spreading disease.

[Will Hunting]

well if you're vouching for medical institutions to refuse treatment nonetheless, its as good as dancing on their graves imo
It’s not really but go ahead and move those goalposts.

I’ll dance on someone’s grave when I think them dying makes the world a better place (eg Ashli Babbitt, Donald Rumsfeld, anyone who believes QAnon is real, evangelical Christians). I think black and Hispanic anti-vaxxers are smooth brained retards, but I didn’t say them dying makes the world a better place. That’s the distinction.

[spurraider21]

What? One of my first few posts said they're a danger to themselves and others - that was always an argument that was made.

Also, having had a really bad case of covid, I can tell you that people who are so sick as to need hospital care are not going out in public spreading disease.
so even excluding the other hypotheticals, a drunk driver meets that criterion. are you prepared to also say that drunk drivers who suffer injuries shouldn't be treated?

[ElNono]

I will admit it's probably insufferable for doctors at a hospital trying to care for idiots like derp, for example... ie: in their deathbeds telling the doctor he's part of a grand jew conspiracy and to turn off his 5G phone.

I'm not against doctors turning off the respirators at that point, tbh...

[baseline bum]

Health insurance providers should be allowed to jack their premiums up too. The kid gloves need to come off.

This. Health insurance companies can already raise your rates for being a smoker. Don't see why they shouldn't do it for antivaxxers too.

[Will Hunting]

I will admit it's probably insufferable for doctors at a hospital trying to care for idiots like derp, for example... ie: in their deathbeds telling the doctor he's part of a grand jew conspiracy and to turn off his 5G phone.

I'm not against doctors turning off the respirators at that point, tbh...
Speaking of 5G I just got the 5G upgrade on my Bill Gates tracking chip and it works so well. Cancelling my internet since I don’t need to pay for it anymore.

[vy65]

so even excluding the other hypotheticals, a drunk driver meets that criterion. are you prepared to also say that drunk drivers who suffer injuries shouldn't be treated?

I answered this - I'd be fine with giving medical treatment if we charged and convicted the anti-vaxxer with a felony

[Will Hunting]

i'm just glad he's not one of those dumbfucks than stan for stalin/mao :lol
Those people are mentally ill. I matched with one on bumble recently and she was nuts.

[vy65]

so even excluding the other hypotheticals, a drunk driver meets that criterion. are you prepared to also say that drunk drivers who suffer injuries shouldn't be treated?

Do you really think that anti-vaxxers shouldn't have to bear any consequences when they catch covid?

[Will Hunting]

I answered this - I'd be fine with giving medical treatment if we charged and convicted the anti-vaxxer with a felony
And carved ANTI-VAX into their forehead. The felony conviction only goes so far, they need to be marked for the rest of their lives.

[vy65]

And carved ANTI-VAX into their forehead. The felony conviction only goes so far, they need to be marked for the rest of their lives.

so is fauci the bear jew in this analogy?

[hater]

And carved ANTI-VAX into their forehead. The felony conviction only goes so far, they need to be marked for the rest of their lives.

Better yet. Put them in concentration camps :tu

[baseline bum]

1) The vaccine is free, so being poor isn’t an excuse.

2) Where in this country does one not have access to the vaccine? It’s in every state, rich areas an poor areas.

No jab, no EBT would fix this shit real quick tbh

[Will Hunting]

No jab, no EBT
Requiring them to get vaccinated in order for their EBT card to get reloaded again would actually be a great idea.

[baseline bum]

Requiring them to get vaccinated in order for their EBT card to get reloaded again would actually be a great idea.

Would work both in Detroit and rural Mississippi

[Will Hunting]

- No jab, no EBT

- Get a free Popeyes chicken sandwich why your 2nd dose

- “the Moderna vaccine makes your penis AKA the thing you call ‘muh dick’ bigger”

- “People are saying the COVID vaccine gives you an ass like Nicki Minaj”


why hasn’t stuff like this been tried yet?

[Will Hunting]

It would actually make sense too. If you need the gubbamint’s help to buy food, the gubbamint gets to tell you what you’re putting in your body.

[DarrinS]

This thread :lmao

[spurraider21]

Do you really think that anti-vaxxers shouldn't have to bear any consequences when they catch covid?
i've already said that i'm supportive of mandates. whatever penalties are attached to that, i'd probably be fine with.

[Will Hunting]

This thread :lmao
:lmao

[baseline bum]

What? One of my first few posts said they're a danger to themselves and others - that was always an argument that was made.

Also, having had a really bad case of covid, I can tell you that people who are so sick as to need hospital care are not going out in public spreading disease.

Damn were you hospitalized or some shit? COVID is no joke. Get knocked on your ass for two weeks with high fever and have lung problems for months and it's considered a fucking mild case.

[vy65]

Damn were you hospitalized or some shit? COVID is no joke. Get knocked on your ass for two weeks with high fever and have lung problems for months and it's considered a fucking mild case.

No. I wanted to go in to one of those standalone ER places but they wouldn't see me. I was sick as shit for 3 weeks. Coughed so hard I fucked up my ribs/abdominal muscles, which took 2 months to heal. And I still didn't break the 102 or 104 degree fever or whatever it was that I needed to get admitted to a hospital.

[vy65]

Damn were you hospitalized or some shit? COVID is no joke. Get knocked on your ass for two weeks with high fever and have lung problems for months and it's considered a fucking mild case.

No. I wanted to go in to one of those standalone ER places but they wouldn't see me. I was sick as shit for 3 weeks. Coughed so hard I fucked up my ribs/abdominal muscles, which took 2 months to heal. And I still didn't break the 102 or 104 degree fever or whatever it was that I needed to get admitted to a hospital.

[Thread]

No. I wanted to go in to one of those standalone ER places but they wouldn't see me. I was sick as shit for 3 weeks. Coughed so hard I fucked up my ribs/abdominal muscles, which took 2 months to heal. And I still didn't break the 102 or 104 degree fever or whatever it was that I needed to get admitted to a hospital.

vy, still breathin'.

vy

Just remember, vy, what Danny Glover said -Grand Canyon-
"If you live long enough some bad shit is gonna happen to you."

[baseline bum]

No. I wanted to go in to one of those standalone ER places but they wouldn't see me. I was sick as shit for 3 weeks. Coughed so hard I fucked up my ribs/abdominal muscles, which took 2 months to heal. And I still didn't break the 102 or 104 degree fever or whatever it was that I needed to get admitted to a hospital.

Was you oxygen level ever bad? I would figure that would be the main dividing line.

[Ef-man]

If it is legal, judges can get into the vaccine action too.



An Ohio judge ordered a man to get a Covid-19 vaccine as a condition of his probation.

An Ohio man says he will not get vaccinated despite a judge ordering him to get a Covid-19 vaccine shot as a condition of his probation.

Judge Christopher Wagner ordered defendant Brandon Rutherford to get vaccinated within 60 days of his court appearance August 4 or face jail time, Rutherford's attorney, Carl Lewis, told CNN on Sunday.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/08/us/judge-ordered-man-covid-vaccine-probation/index.html

[Thread]

Was you oxygen level ever bad? I would figure that would be the main dividing line.

Bend over and show me you're fuckin' main dividing line.

[baseline bum]

Bend over and show me you're fuckin' main dividing line.

sssshhhh.... adults are talking

[boutons_deux]

Georgia man avoided vaccines after getting ‘deep into Tik Tok conspiracy theories’ –

then COVID killed him
https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzE2MzgxOS9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY3OTc1MTc0M30.XMcG5MgHA NV0gXe8WX0M9IT79-0SZsYGXcY6AKFzPzA/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675


https://www.rawstory.com/georgia-man-avoided-vaccines-after-getting-deep-into-tik-tok-conspiracy-theories-then-killed-him

[vy65]

vy, still breathin'.

vy

Just remember, vy, what Danny Glover said -Grand Canyon-
"If you live long enough some bad shit is gonna happen to you."

Cubby, baby, darlin', where you been all my life?

[vy65]

Was you oxygen level ever bad? I would figure that would be the main dividing line.

It got close. My girlfriend sent me one of those O2 monitors or whatever they're called that you put on your finger, and my levels hovered around 95. If they dipped below, I would have to have gone in.

I don't think it would have been bad, but I smoked for 15 years, so I think my lungs were pretty susceptible.

[vy65]

Georgia man avoided vaccines after getting ‘deep into Tik Tok conspiracy theories’ –

then COVID killed him
https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzE2MzgxOS9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY3OTc1MTc0M30.XMcG5MgHA NV0gXe8WX0M9IT79-0SZsYGXcY6AKFzPzA/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675


https://www.rawstory.com/georgia-man-avoided-vaccines-after-getting-deep-into-tik-tok-conspiracy-theories-then-killed-him

beautiful couple

[Trill Clinton]

1) The vaccine is free, so being poor isn’t an excuse.

2) Where in this country does one not have access to the vaccine? It’s in every state, rich areas an poor areas.

Poor low income areas don't have the same access to vaccine sites, poor people don't have transportation to get to and from a vaccine site and lack of information.

Here is an article on the grueling process of getting the inner-cities vaccinated and it doesn't mention the tuskegee experiments.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/06/27/why-black-americans-arent-being-vaccinated/

[DarrinS]

Poor low income areas don't have the same access to vaccine sites, poor people don't have transportation to get to and from a vaccine site and lack of information.

Here is an article on the grueling process of getting the inner-cities vaccinated and it doesn't mention the tuskegee experiments.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/06/27/why-black-americans-arent-being-vaccinated/


Via gives free bus rides.

Lol, "gruelling process"

[SnakeBoy]

Poor low income areas don't have the same access to vaccine sites, poor people don't have transportation to get to and from a vaccine site and lack of information.

Here is an article on the grueling process of getting the inner-cities vaccinated and it doesn't mention the tuskegee experiments.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/06/27/why-black-americans-arent-being-vaccinated/

Article says whites from outside the city have been coming in taking up the vaccine slots

[Adam Lambert]

Via gives free bus rides.

Lol, "gruelling process"


Article says whites from outside the city have been coming in taking up the vaccine slots

LMAO swarmed to Trills post like sharks to chum but still won't ever criticize Republican anti-vaxxers.

[DarrinS]

LMAO swarmed to Trills post like sharks to chum but still won't ever criticize Republican anti-vaxxers.


Republican antivaxxers are retarded.

Happy now?

[DarrinS]

Lol, "swarmed"

[baseline bum]

It got close. My girlfriend sent me one of those O2 monitors or whatever they're called that you put on your finger, and my levels hovered around 95. If they dipped below, I would have to have gone in.

I don't think it would have been bad, but I smoked for 15 years, so I think my lungs were pretty susceptible.

When my brother got it my mom asked her doctor and he said 92% meant get your ass to the ER. I had a friend who didn't go to the ER until his oxygen was frighteningly low, it's a regret I'll take to my grave forgetting to tell him he needed to monitor his oxygen if he ever caught the virus. Talked to him about a week before he caught it but was too focused talking about vaccinations and how to find out when they were available and such and completely forgot to share the information about monitoring. So now I tell everyone watch your fucking oxygen level if you catch Sars-CoV-2.

[DarrinS]

Make sure everyone in the hood has a pulse oximeter.

[boutons_deux]

So now I tell everyone watch your fucking oxygen level if you catch Sars-CoV-2.

I remember reading last spring about people showing up at ER just not feeling very well. Oxygen in the 70s

[Will Hunting]

Poor low income areas don't have the same access to vaccine sites, poor people don't have transportation to get to and from a vaccine site and lack of information.

Here is an article on the grueling process of getting the inner-cities vaccinated and it doesn't mention the tuskegee experiments.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/06/27/why-black-americans-arent-being-vaccinated/
“Lack of information” is a cuck way of saying they’re ignorant. Why can’t they go find this elusive information if they really trying to get vaccinated?

you can literally go to CVS to get the vaccine. Are you saying poor black people don’t have the ability to transport themselves to CVS? How are they able to buy a toothbrush?

The reflexive instinct to say “it’s not their fault” is why this is happens. It’s a free vaccine. I live in DC and it’s available anywhere you can take the metro; black people are choosing not to get it.

[Will Hunting]

Is literally everything that goes wrong for poor black people the fault of someone other than poor black people? The notion that whitey is to blame for not doing enough to spoon feed them directions on how to get vaccinated is a joke.

[Winehole23]

Make sure everyone in the hood has a pulse oximeter.believe it or not, pulse oximeters don't work as well in the presence of melanin.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2029240

[spurraider21]

pretty sure there has been polling info of black people also just being vaccine hesitant, more so than wanting them and simply not being able to find the local CVS...

[Winehole23]

1424911228699348996

[Will Hunting]

The big misconception is that the vaccine hesitancy is a Democrat vs. Republican thing. It’s not. It’s an educated vs. uneducated thing. Your average country club neocon might have voted for Trump but he got the vaccine the second he could.

[Will Hunting]

Georgia man avoided vaccines after getting ‘deep into Tik Tok conspiracy theories’ –

then COVID killed him
https://www.rawstory.com/media-library/eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJpbWFnZSI6I mh0dHBzOi8vYXNzZXRzLnJibC5tcy8yNzE2MzgxOS9vcmlnaW4 uanBnIiwiZXhwaXJlc19hdCI6MTY3OTc1MTc0M30.XMcG5MgHA NV0gXe8WX0M9IT79-0SZsYGXcY6AKFzPzA/image.jpg?width=1200&height=675


https://www.rawstory.com/georgia-man-avoided-vaccines-after-getting-deep-into-tik-tok-conspiracy-theories-then-killed-him
Maybe my eyes are bad but I see a car in the background. Can’t wait to hear how muh transportation issues are why the black big chungus didn’t get vaccinated.

[hater]

Is literally everything that goes wrong for poor black people the fault of someone other than poor black people? The notion that whitey is to blame for not doing enough to spoon feed them directions on how to get vaccinated is a joke.

Lots of things are fucked up from black cause of whitey (by whitey I mean the US society wether its black/yellow/white/red)

Lots of hoods are basically open air penitentiaries. Blacks cant go out. Where they gonna go with no money and education??? And being black you cant just waltz to any small town/neigjborhood.

But that being said many things are not. Are black ppl not vaxinating is 100% because black ppl dont want it.

And this thread is celebrating their deaths btw

[hater]

Is literally everything that goes wrong for poor black people the fault of someone other than poor black people? The notion that whitey is to blame for not doing enough to spoon feed them directions on how to get vaccinated is a joke.

Lots of things are fucked up from black cause of whitey (by whitey I mean the US society wether its black/yellow/white/red)

Lots of hoods are basically open air penitentiaries. Blacks cant go out. Where they gonna go with no money and education??? And being black you cant just waltz to any small town/neigjborhood.

But that being said many things are not. Are black ppl not vaxinating is 100% because black ppl dont want it.

And this thread is celebrating their deaths btw

[Will Hunting]

Lots of things are fucked up from black cause of whitey (by whitey I mean the US society wether its black/yellow/white/red)

Lots of hoods are basically open air penitentiaries. Blacks cant go out. Where they gonna go with no money and education??? And being black you cant just waltz to any small town/neigjborhood.

But that being said many things are not. Are black ppl not vaxinating is 100% because black ppl dont want it.

And this thread is celebrating their deaths btw
I’m definitely not denying the existing of anything you just said or that systemic racism is a thing, it just shouldn’t be an excuse for why black people cant get on the bus to go take the vaccine.

[Will Hunting]

This faggot was an antibiden slurper. :lol

Was sad when Biden owned the shit out of Sanders.:lol
I gave money to Biden and drove up to Philly to go door knocking for Biden :lol

[Will Hunting]

I bet you're dumb ass has students loans. :lol

We ain't paying for that shit around here. :lol
:lmao student loans stop projecting your poverty onto me Jamante.

[Will Hunting]

Jamante? :lol

Is that some racism? :lmao :lmao
Yes.

if black people are unironically going to claim they lack the independence and wherewithal to get on a bus to the nearest CVS to take a vaccine, I’m going to give them the racism they’re asking for.

[hater]

I’m definitely not denying the existing of anything you just said or that systemic racism is a thing, it just shouldn’t be an excuse for why black people cant get on the bus to go take the vaccine.

They dont fucking want it. Believe me I go around d hood

[Will Hunting]

Just put on Klan robes too. :lmao :lmao
Na I’ll let the klan and black people not get vaccinated and give each other COVID. No interest in getting in between the uneducated mongrels.

[Will Hunting]

They dont fucking want it. Believe me I go around d hood
I know. That’s what the polling says, it’s what they themselves say, etc. the narrative ITT that they’re too poor to get a free vaccine (:lmao) or that muh transportation issues make it so they can’t travel to the magical wonderland known as CVS pharmacy is totally made up and not what the facts say.

Most black people are simply uneducated anti-vaxxers the same way MAGA is, the media just isn’t reporting on it.

[Will Hunting]

You're a racist piece of shit. Progressive much? :lmao
Bro, you unironically think poor black people are trying to get vaccinated but don’t have the wherewithal to transport themselves to a CVS Pharmacy. That’s more racist than any joke I’ve made ITT :lol

[hater]

I know. That’s what the polling says, it’s what they themselves say, etc. the narrative ITT that they’re too poor to get a free vaccine (:lmao) or that muh transportation issues make it so they can’t travel to the magical wonderland known as CVS pharmacy is totally made up and not what the facts say.

Most black people are simply uneducated anti-vaxxers the same way MAGA is, the media just isn’t reporting on it.

Agreed. And lets remember this thread celebrates each of their deaths

[Will Hunting]

Now it's just a joke! :lol :lol
Whether what I said was a joke, you have the 100% serious opinion that poor black people cant be expected to be able to independently locate and travel to a CVS pharmacy :lol

[boutons_deux]

How anti-vaxxers weaponized Ivermectin, a horse de-wormer drug, as a COVID-19 treatment

The right-wing obsession with the veterinary drug is a tactic to undermine COVID-19 vaccines, experts say

in July 2021, the paper was pulled (https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-100956/v4) "due to ethical concerns."

Those concerns included alleged plagiarism and calculation of data points that were "mathematically impossible,"

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/09/how-anti-vaxxers-weaponized-and-promoted-ivermectin-a-horse-de-wormer-drug-as-a-covid-19-treatment/

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-3917204845476942460&th=17b2dece4e92c04d&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9jU3re7jllBWBz6b5FDK0P4ioM5ud9u-1mN9B5jfWtq7al4VZeQ_RVSy0-l2Hl8e8LJAK6XtpoJfsL5pe_MmiZJ1eNT___w9duV8ZJILJGhm BINaPHYGb18xk&disp=emb&realattid=ii_ks5gez2w0

[DarrinS]

How anti-vaxxers weaponized Ivermectin, a horse de-wormer drug, as a COVID-19 treatment

The right-wing obsession with the veterinary drug is a tactic to undermine COVID-19 vaccines, experts say

in July 2021, the paper was pulled (https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-100956/v4) "due to ethical concerns."

Those concerns included alleged plagiarism and calculation of data points that were "mathematically impossible,"

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/09/how-anti-vaxxers-weaponized-and-promoted-ivermectin-a-horse-de-wormer-drug-as-a-covid-19-treatment/

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=c5ffe9fe07&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-3917204845476942460&th=17b2dece4e92c04d&view=fimg&sz=s0-l75-ft&attbid=ANGjdJ9jU3re7jllBWBz6b5FDK0P4ioM5ud9u-1mN9B5jfWtq7al4VZeQ_RVSy0-l2Hl8e8LJAK6XtpoJfsL5pe_MmiZJ1eNT___w9duV8ZJILJGhm BINaPHYGb18xk&disp=emb&realattid=ii_ks5gez2w0


US and UK still running RCTs.

Why do you hate this harmless medication so much?


There's no money in it.

[Will Hunting]

Just grab them by the pussy was a joke too. Ha ha!! :lol
Here’s a other good one since you’re interested
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/817/218/88e.jpg

[DarrinS]

You're a racist piece of shit. Progressive much? :lmao

Lol, I knew this would happen.

[DarrinS]

Here’s a other good one since you’re interested
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/817/218/88e.jpg

Well, this doesn't help.

[Will Hunting]

If poor black people legit at a macro level don’t have the wherewithal to go from their house/apartment to a CVS Pharmacy then yes I’m 100% a racist….fortunately that whole narrative is just bullshit tho and black people are just anti-vaxxers.

[Will Hunting]

Well, this doesn't help.
PobQzVsj7GE

[Winehole23]

fwiw

https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/9598-Figure-4.png

[Winehole23]

essential workers and political independents are right up there too, but not much buzz about that, far more scapegoating of black folks for some reason.

[Winehole23]

also, too much scapegoating of hispanics, who are below the average as a cohort.

[boutons_deux]

fwiw

https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/9598-Figure-4.png

Fox viewers

[Will Hunting]

essential workers and political independents are right up there too, but not much buzz about that, far more scapegoating of black folks for some reason.
I’m not scapegoating blacks. My actual overarching point is how much leaders in the black community are completely ignoring the vaccination problem and not doing a thing to get black people vaccinated. Heck, why doesn’t Obama do a few events where he talks about it? Is that too much to ask?

also as I said, the real issue is educated vs. non educated and religious vs. secular. One of the causes of black people not getting the jab is how many of them are bible thumpers.

[DMC]

They dont fucking want it. Believe me I go around d hood

Thot

[DMC]

I’m not scapegoating blacks. My actual overarching point is how much leaders in the black community are completely ignoring the vaccination problem and not doing a thing to get black people vaccinated. Heck, why doesn’t Obama do a few events where he talks about it? Is that too much to ask?

also as I said, the real issue is educated vs. non educated and religious vs. secular. One of the causes of black people not getting the jab is how many of them are bible thumpers.

Or pretend to be

[Winehole23]

I’m not scapegoating blacks. My actual overarching point is how much leaders in the black community are completely ignoring the vaccination problem and not doing a thing to get black people vaccinated. Heck, why doesn’t Obama do a few events where he talks about it? Is that too much to ask?

also as I said, the real issue is educated vs. non educated and religious vs. secular. One of the causes of black people not getting the jab is how many of them are bible thumpers.I honestly wouldn't know, sounds plausible.

A few lunkheads here like to deflect from the runaway lead Republicans have established by pointing at far less numerous "blacks and minorities" and saying "what about them?"

(DarrinS and Dirks_Finale, looking at you)

[DMC]

I honestly wouldn't know, sounds plausible.

A few lunkheads here like to deflect from the runaway lead Republicans have established by pointing at far less numerous "blacks and minorities" and saying "what about them?"

(DarrinS and Dirks_Finale, looking at you)

Can't talk about Chicago nor the untouchable, protected classes here lest the "I'm more woke than you" crew starts in.

[DarrinS]

I honestly wouldn't know, sounds plausible.

A few lunkheads here like to deflect from the runaway lead Republicans have established by pointing at far less numerous "blacks and minorities" and saying "what about them?"

(DarrinS and Dirks_Finale, looking at you)


Fully vaccinated. Next

[Will Hunting]

Or pretend to be
Very true, I’ve seen younger black folks on Twitter say stuff like “all I need is Jesus no vaccine for me”…..GMAFB Jemarious you haven’t been to church in years just be a man and admit you’re an anti-vaxxer without hiding behind the fake god shit.

[ElNono]

fwiw

https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/9598-Figure-4.png

Hispanic adults are not that terrible, tbh... not sure why they're being grouped with black folk...

[Winehole23]

Can't talk about Chicago nor the untouchable, protected classes here lest the "I'm more woke than you" crew starts in.^^^ sorry you're still going through this, thoughts and prayers

[Winehole23]

Fully vaccinated. Nextyou're not the cohort, nor are you representative of it

[Winehole23]

Hispanic adults are not that terrible, tbh... not sure why they're being grouped with black folk...reflexive for some, hacks me off too. darrin and dirks did single them out, wrongly.

[boutons_deux]

Police officers keep dying of COVID as Delta variant spreads

8 Macho Men listed

https://www.rawstory.com/police-vaccines

[DarrinS]

you're not the cohort, nor are you representative of it

Well, I'm supposedly surrounded by throngs of Republican anti-vaxxers. I'm not seeing that in Bexar county.

We have a hot spot around the university. I wonder if students visited family in India? Wild guess.

[Winehole23]

Well, I'm supposedly surrounded by throngs of Republican anti-vaxxers. I'm not seeing that in Bexar county.

We have a hot spot around the university. I wonder if students visited family in India? Wild guess."muh zip code"

[Winehole23]

peering at life through a soda straw

[DarrinS]

"muh zip code"


peering at life through a soda straw


Looking at local outbreaks is important, no?

[DarrinS]

Is epidemiology important anymore?

"muh zip code"

Fuck off

[Winehole23]

Looking at local outbreaks is important, no?not as a basis for generalization, no

[Winehole23]

Is epidemiology important anymore?

"muh zip code"

Fuck offlol flipping shit over nothing

[ChumpDumper]

Is epidemiology important anymore?Could've been last year....

[DarrinS]

lol flipping shit over nothing

Its not nothing. Understanding local outbreaks is everything.

But keep saying "muh zip code"

[Winehole23]

Its not nothing. Understanding local outbreaks is everything.

But keep saying "muh zip code"Your zip code is not a map of the world. In principle it's not generalizable -- unless you think you are the universe.

[diego]

fwiw

https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/9598-Figure-4.png

i was going to make a guess at why black people have lower rates, and this graph pretty much confirms my guess.

I grew up in DC in the eighties, havent been back in decades now but when i remember most of the black people i met the overall common characteristic is that they were poor. Well, being poor correlates with less eduaction, lower life expectancy/younger population, and importantly having less free time. Where i live we have fewer and smaller minority groups, but we have a lot of poor people, and the same things happen.

another thing about being poor is that you avoid the doctor at all cost, most dont ever go- just going to get bad news and bills you cant pay. I recently saw a clip of a guy running off a stretcher to avoid paying an ambulance in the US, the cost of health care is absurd and many people avoid treatment because they cant afford it. also, "muh tuskegee" aside, there is a documented history of racism in medicine, I guarantee you minorities always prefer doctors from their minority and that makes access more limited too.

i suspect latinos do better here because culturally we are more socialist and expect the government to give health care, and because vaccines greatly improved life expectancy in the region there is less skepticism. though they exist too, including the educated loons :lol

gov here just announced a third dose for older people (sinovac). Giving one dose of pfizer as a third booster for inmunosuppressed. covid is similar to flu, makes sense that boosters will be needed. vaccine rollout here was very good, but young people held out, the gov made rules requiring a vaccine passport and they straight up put a curfew at 10, and for it to go to 12 the region has to be at 80% vaccination (both doses). a lot of the holdouts got their shots, cases are now way down but still havent hit 80% in my region- americans love their freedom, you would go crazy even though most of you are already home in bed at 10 :lol
covid is tricky, its very contagious and affects people very differently, some are asymptomatic while others go down in days. I got it a week after getting my first dose of vaccine, from work, and my family- it ended up being a light cold for us, and a rough one for my unvaxxed coworker. the vaccines job is to prevent hospitals collapsing and hopefully reduce transmission, but for it to really work you need 90% of the population to vaccinate.

[Winehole23]

can i afford to go to the doctor is a real thing for the less insured. can be life changing.

vaccines and COVID care were supposed to be free, but it's a damn fact some people got charged for it.

you better bet word got around about that. USG even asked people to report it

https://abc7chicago.com/charged-for-covid-vaccine-free-bill-vaccination/10561655/

[Winehole23]

covid is tricky, its very contagious and affects people very differently, some are asymptomatic while others go down in days. I got it a week after getting my first dose of vaccine, from work, and my family- it ended up being a light cold for us, and a rough one for my unvaxxed coworker. the vaccines job is to prevent hospitals collapsing and hopefully reduce transmission, but for it to really work you need 90% of the population to vaccinate.For the current generation of vaccines, that might not be sufficient. Check out Iceland and Denmark. Both have robust testing, tracing and sequencing, plus double tested quarantine, plus >90% fully vaccinated over age 16, plus national level real time data collection.

Both countries are saying herd immunity isn't attainable wth the current vaccines.

[Winehole23]

Im holding out hope for a live, attenuated virus vaccine.

I will slurp that shit down, spray it in my nose, just give it to me.

[Adam Lambert]

I know. That’s what the polling says, it’s what they themselves say, etc. the narrative ITT that they’re too poor to get a free vaccine (:lmao) or that muh transportation issues make it so they can’t travel to the magical wonderland known as CVS pharmacy is totally made up and not what the facts say.

Most black people are simply uneducated anti-vaxxers the same way MAGA is, the media just isn’t reporting on it.

The polling says blacks are 34% more likely to be hesitant to take the vaccine.

The same polling says Republicans are +184% more likely to outright refuse the vaccine.

Both groups are a problem that need to be addressed. Republicans are by far the bigger one.

[DMC]

Very true, I’ve seen younger black folks on Twitter say stuff like “all I need is Jesus no vaccine for me”…..GMAFB Jemarious you haven’t been to church in years just be a man and admit you’re an anti-vaxxer without hiding behind the fake god shit.

It's mostly being ignorant about science and seeing dragons and ill intent in the white man's medicine, but it's not so cleverly disguised as spirituality. Blacks not so long ago just came out of bondage, and spirituality was a big part of what kept them going through all that hundreds of years of shit. I cannot fault them for having a lot of residual distrust and leftover religious leanings. The white people who are just paranoid because they read something somewhere, or heard something in a feed store, or they think it only happens to others.. those people I give no quarter.

[Adam Lambert]

Republican antivaxxers are retarded.

Happy now?

It's a good step. Good for you. :tu

[DMC]

Im holding out hope for a live, attenuated virus vaccine.

I will slurp that shit down, spray it in my nose, just give it to me.

So basically they should cork it and put a vintage marker on it.

[Winehole23]

So basically they should cork it and put a vintage marker on it.Nah, just test it for safety and efficacy. I'm not a snob about what I drink.

Wine is for conviviality and pleasure, not bragging rights.

[Adam Lambert]

I don't even think education is the issue with regard to minorities and vaccines. The issue is just giving a shit.

[Thread]

It's mostly being ignorant about science and seeing dragons and ill intent in the white man's medicine, but it's not so cleverly disguised as spirituality. Blacks not so long ago just came out of bondage, and spirituality was a big part of what kept them going through all that hundreds of years of shit. I cannot fault them for having a lot of residual distrust and leftover religious leanings. The white people who are just paranoid because they read something somewhere, or heard something in a feed store, or they think it only happens to others.. those people I give no quarter.

What a crock a shit, D.

C M D

[Will Hunting]

It's mostly being ignorant about science and seeing dragons and ill intent in the white man's medicine, but it's not so cleverly disguised as spirituality. Blacks not so long ago just came out of bondage, and spirituality was a big part of what kept them going through all that hundreds of years of shit. I cannot fault them for having a lot of residual distrust and leftover religious leanings. The white people who are just paranoid because they read something somewhere, or heard something in a feed store, or they think it only happens to others.. those people I give no quarter.
I give no quarter to any of them. I understand the residual distrust factor black people might have, but this is the same vaccine that tens of millions of upper middle class Karens are getting, it’s not like this is an experimental drug that black people are being used as the guinea pig for.

[Will Hunting]

I don't even think education is the issue with regard to minorities and vaccines. The issue is just giving a shit.
The lack of a give a shit factor seems to directly correlate with a lack of education.

[Will Hunting]

Well, I'm supposedly surrounded by throngs of Republican anti-vaxxers. I'm not seeing that in Bexar county.

We have a hot spot around the university. I wonder if students visited family in India? Wild guess.
Well Biden won Bexar County by 18% but as I said, educated Republicans who live in suburban areas like Bexar County arent the ones who are vaccine hesitant (even if they voted for Trump).

Just to be clear I still think Country Club Trump voters are morally depraved people incapable of thinking beyond how they can lower their income tax liability, but they’re not complete fucking idiots, thus they get the vaccine.

[Adam Lambert]

The lack of a give a shit factor seems to directly correlate with a lack of education.

Chicken/egg. The lack of give a shit factor among some directly influences their lack of education.

[Will Hunting]

Chicken/egg. The lack of give a shit factor among some directly influences their lack of education.
Probably.

[JamStone]

I give no quarter to any of them. I understand the residual distrust factor black people might have, but this is the same vaccine that tens of millions of upper middle class Karens are getting, it’s not like this is an experimental drug that black people are being used as the guinea pig for.

Except that’s not how it’s perceived to some, many. The black distrust of government extends beyond rational thought the way far right conspiracy theories extend to. Just because they say they’re getting the same vaccine the upper middle class Karens are getting, it doesn’t mean the CVS employees aren’t switching the syringes last minute to the “for blacks only” vaccines. It’s not a federal building where people of all races, colors can share. Vaccines are independently individual. So the getting “the same” vaccine might as well be labeled “separate but equal” in their eyes. Lack of education may be a part of it, but the government distrust has roots very deep in black culture in general. No BA, no BS, no PhD, no Kamala, no Obama, no LeBron, heck, no Beyoncé can change the minds of some fraction of that demographic, maybe many of them. For some, perhaps many, it’s not even a consideration. It’s a non-starter. And unfortunately, for those some or many with that line of thinking, they will pay a heavy price, some with their lives.

[DarrinS]

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/08/09/metro-health-60-of-latinos-in-san-antonio-remain-unvaccinated/

[Thanos]

It’s definitely not just an education/Bible thumper issue with the black community. Hispanics are getting vaccinated at much higher rate, and they’re (generally speaking) around the same education & religious level as blacks. It has to be a deeper rooted mistrust driving the black community to stay away from the vaccine.

But yes, trying to avoid the issue and blaming it on outside issues isn’t productive. Black leaders need to do more. Spike Lee in commercials takin old ladies to bus stops isn’t cutting it.

[Splits]

1424946657242796034

great thread on the derps of the world

[spurraider21]

The big misconception is that the vaccine hesitancy is a Democrat vs. Republican thing. It’s not. It’s an educated vs. uneducated thing. Your average country club neocon might have voted for Trump but he got the vaccine the second he could.
there is a pretty good correlation between % of people in a county who are vaccinated and % of people in a county who voted for biden, though to be fair there's also a correlation between political preference and education level

[boutons_deux]

1424946657242796034

great thread on the derps of the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtvQ47fohqc&ab_channel=KristinWylie


https://www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/addressing-dr-daniel-stock-claims

[spurraider21]

I’m not scapegoating blacks. My actual overarching point is how much leaders in the black community are completely ignoring the vaccination problem and not doing a thing to get black people vaccinated. Heck, why doesn’t Obama do a few events where he talks about it? Is that too much to ask?

also as I said, the real issue is educated vs. non educated and religious vs. secular. One of the causes of black people not getting the jab is how many of them are bible thumpers.
that dipshit mayor is boston isnt helping either

[spurraider21]

Very true, I’ve seen younger black folks on Twitter say stuff like “all I need is Jesus no vaccine for me”…..GMAFB Jemarious you haven’t been to church in years just be a man and admit you’re an anti-vaxxer without hiding behind the fake god shit.
extrapolating anything from twitter is a fool's errand

[spurraider21]

Well Biden won Bexar County by 18% but as I said, educated Republicans who live in suburban areas like Bexar County arent the ones who are vaccine hesitant (even if they voted for Trump).

Just to be clear I still think Country Club Trump voters are morally depraved people incapable of thinking beyond how they can lower their income tax liability, but they’re not complete fucking idiots, thus they get the vaccine.
:lol

[DMC]

1424946657242796034

great thread on the derps of the world


extrapolating anything from twitter is a fool's errand

:lol

[DMC]

What a crock a shit, D.

C M D

I don't defend my worldview
It's my religion

[Adam Lambert]

:lol

Do you know what "Extrapolating" means?

[RandomGuy]

Don't get the cartoon though, what's that about?

Fish is from a deliciously kinda bizzare cartoon. His name is Darwin. was going to put charles there, but this popped up in the search, and I thought it funny.

[Winehole23]

MJT

1425098365327577089

[Thread]

MJT

1425098365327577089

That freedom of speech thingy is a slippery little dickens, eh, Winester?

tee, hee.

[Ef-man]

MJT

1425098365327577089

Tee hee

[Thread]

Tee hee

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[lefty]

That freedom of speech thingy is a slippery little dickens, eh, Winester?

tee, hee.
Freedom of speech when said speech is retarded and dangerous?

Nah man, fuck that

Good job Twitter tbh

[Thanos]

That freedom of speech thingy is a slippery little dickens, eh, Winester?

tee, hee.
Oh look, someone else who doesn’t grasp the concept of the First Amendment.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/236086259_5413034002122943_6330345977576623921_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=pXjPBq7IhnkAX-_jYDe&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=d86e5b954ed0bde72e02e69ff7dd9f89&oe=6139927C

[SnakeBoy]

Oregon coronavirus update, Aug. 10: Nearly one in five deaths were in fully vaccinated
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/oregon-coronavirus-update-aug-10-nearly-one-in-five-deaths-were-in-fully-vaccinated/ar-AANa9mR?ocid=BingNewsSearch

:lol

[baseline bum]

Oregon coronavirus update, Aug. 10: Nearly one in five deaths were in fully vaccinated
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/oregon-coronavirus-update-aug-10-nearly-one-in-five-deaths-were-in-fully-vaccinated/ar-AANa9mR?ocid=BingNewsSearch

:lol

Oh yeah that's real funny.

[spurraider21]

snakeboy crossing his fingers hoping that the vaccine doesnt work and more people die

nevertheless, that 73% of oregon's adult population is vaccinated, but that they made up less than 1/5 of the deaths in july is a good indicator that they do significantly decrease chances of deaths

[baseline bum]

Bexar County just reporting only 87% of the COVID hospitalizations are unvaccinated :pctoss

[Thread]

snakeboy crossing his fingers hoping that the vaccine doesnt work and more people die

nevertheless, that 73% of oregon's adult population is vaccinated, but that they made up less than 1/5 of the deaths in july is a good indicator that they do significantly decrease chances of deaths

Now wait a second, dad. You was pullin' for a high death count when President Trump was in there, 21. I was here every single day and I saw ya, so, don't even start up with Snake.

[ChumpDumper]

Oregon coronavirus update, Aug. 10: Nearly one in five deaths were in fully vaccinated
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/oregon-coronavirus-update-aug-10-nearly-one-in-five-deaths-were-in-fully-vaccinated/ar-AANa9mR?ocid=BingNewsSearch

:lolWhich part of this is funny to you?

Vaccines are less effective in the elderly, who are more likely to die from breakthrough infections. But they still reduce the risk for the elderly.

Most of the breakthrough fatalities reported in July were in elderly people, many of whom live in congregate care settings. The older a person is, the less active their immune response is. The COVID-19 vaccine is not the first to be less effective as people age, and it won’t be the last. But in a disease that previously overwhelmingly impacted elderly people, the protection provided by a vaccine can be the difference between life and death.

Explain.

[baseline bum]

Now wait a second, dad. You was pullin' for a high death count when President Trump was in there, 21. I was here every single day and I saw ya, so, don't even start up with Snake.

Bullshit, all of us Trump haters were hoping for a low death count even if it would have doomed us to four more years of that fucking Nazi.

[Spurtacular]

Oregon coronavirus update, Aug. 10: Nearly one in five deaths were in fully vaccinated
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/oregon-coronavirus-update-aug-10-nearly-one-in-five-deaths-were-in-fully-vaccinated/ar-AANa9mR?ocid=BingNewsSearch

:lol

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Bullshit, all of us Trump haters were hoping for a low death count even if it would have doomed us to four more years of that fucking Nazi.

That's not true even a little bit.

:lol Blakeline Dumb

[Spurtacular]

This is why Blue Santa Faggs has to ignore me with most his screen names now.

Lethal Injection: https://gab.com/BeachMilk/posts/106731021633464069

[spurraider21]

Now wait a second, dad. You was pullin' for a high death count when President Trump was in there, 21. I was here every single day and I saw ya, so, don't even start up with Snake.
bologna. it was just an inevitability after we botched it. and how would you even know? you were hiding the whole time like a chickenshit

[Adam Lambert]

snakeboy crossing his fingers hoping that the vaccine doesnt work and more people die

nevertheless, that 73% of oregon's adult population is vaccinated, but that they made up less than 1/5 of the deaths in july is a good indicator that they do significantly decrease chances of deaths

He's super pro vaccine though. Definitely not a sociopath.

[Adam Lambert]

snakeboy crossing his fingers hoping that the vaccine doesnt work and more people die

nevertheless, that 73% of oregon's adult population is vaccinated, but that they made up less than 1/5 of the deaths in july is a good indicator that they do significantly decrease chances of deaths

He's super pro vaccine though.