Vegas SL Game 1 vs Wolves (6pm CST -- 2am Riga Time)

[Chinook]

It's going to be on ESPN U. Figured we need a thread to post things like Jones' injury update.

[Dejounte]

Jones is back

[Ocotillo]

Let the beautiful game begin.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Jones is going to make life a lot easier for the team.

[Rito3d30]

Finally started

[ace3g]

Primo to Vassell for 3.

[Rito3d30]

Jones seems rusty

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Jones looks terrible

[widowmaker]

Seems like every other team has better basketball players that the Spurs have.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Jones looks rusty as hell, also wouldn’t mind Primo bringing up I hope Mitch tries to stagger them.

[KDKSpurs24]

Primo needs to touch the ball more.

[spurraider21]

Jones hasnt shown to be as good as CoJo... not sure where they hype for him came from. Reminds me of when people would talk up Blossomgame all the time :lol, and to a lesser degree, Weatherspoon

[DPG21920]

No one can really get by their guy off the dribble to collapse the defense.

[widowmaker]

Nobody knows how to shoot all of a sudden.

[Seventyniner]

Ugh, I can't stand the "couple of crossovers then launch a contested long 2". DeRozan did and Murray does too much of that, no need for it from Primo.

[spurraider21]

Ugh, I can't stand the "couple of crossovers then launch a contested long 2". DeRozan did and Murray does too much of that, no need for it from Primo.
with his lack of first step burst he's going to rely on it

nice pass by wieskamp there, but couldnt finish inside

[widowmaker]

Ugh, I can't stand the "couple of crossovers then launch a contested long 2". DeRozan did and Murray does too much of that, no need for it from Primo.


Nobody can drive the ball to the bucket.

[Seventyniner]

with his lack of first step burst he's going to rely on it

nice pass by wieskamp there, but couldnt finish inside

Yeah, a lack of an explosive first step will be a problem. If he only ever creates separation going sideways or backwards, defenders will just crowd him every time.

[offset formation]

Each game, this is now the 4th, our team has been the least aggressive, the least physical, the least athletic, the least prepared.

not a good look for our future.

[Dejounte]

Primo started the game as the SF. Hmm...

[spurraider21]

finally meinkampf hits a shot

[Chinook]

Ugh, I can't stand the "couple of crossovers then launch a contested long 2". DeRozan did and Murray does too much of that, no need for it from Primo.

It's a critical part of a star's game. DeRozan is a tremendous offensive player and a successful iso scorer because he has the ability to do that. But I do believe it should be a "finishing touch" addition rather than an early development, and Pop et al having/letting Murray focus on that shit is one of the things I'm pointing to when I suggest they "developed him wrong". I don't have the same problem with it with Primo, because he can already shoot, including finding the open spot. Especially in the SL, he should experiment with ways to create his own shots. If in the real games he's passing up threes to dribble-pull-up his way to long-twos, then it's a problem.

[Chinook]

Primo started the game as the SF. Hmm...

Why not Vassell? In the SL, you can definitely get away with either playing the three. Jeffries is playing for the four for some reason.

[Dejounte]

Why not Vassell? In the SL, you can definitely get away with either playing the three. Jeffries is playing for the four for some reason.

I've long theorized that Vassell is better at guarding 1's and 2's. Primo, like I suspected, is probably stronger than him.

Jeffries was long been projected as the PF because of his girth and strength, and lack of ball handling ability.

Let's see if it continues.

[mo7888]

It's early but Malik Newman looks like he's putting it together a little bit... Weiskamp doesn't look lost out there anymore...

[widowmaker]

Everyone else gets around them Spurs can’t get around anybody and settle for low % shots.

[duncan2150]

Jones starts to play like a real PG after a rough start

[Dejounte]

Jones starts to play like a real PG after a rough start

Must have been a really bad concussion.

The team is playing disorganized basketball. Just playing for themselves.

[Dejounte]

Nice turnaround J by Primo!.

https://twitter.com/TheTyJager/status/1424883027264606208

[Chinook]

Vassell is trying too hard to be the star. He's an NBA player, but he's an off-ball guy, and his can be the big boy at the table while still letting others set him up. He wasn't solid enough offensively last year to use this SL to experiment. The team should've given him the game plan of finding and taking as many open catch-and-shoot jumpers as possible. Maybe that was the gameplan before Jones got hurt. But Jones isn't hurt anymore.

[Dejounte]

Get #23 off the court and tell him to go home.

[Sugus]

Whew, that was a pretty disgusting outing by the Spurs. Can the second half be better? To think these are the Timberwolves we're playing against.... SL rosters and all that, but still not the best of signs. At least Primo looks good most times he touches the ball. Vassell looks really discombulated, he's gotta calm down and not try to hero-ball through the team's struggles.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Keldon is at the game rocking the good 🥇

[TheGreatYacht]

Vassell has easily been the worst player of the whole summer league. Fucking putrid. Imagine the slander he would get if his name was Lonnie Walker. By far the most babied Spur in recent history only behind White

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

These summer league games are a precursor of what’s more to come. Lmao. ��

[LeBowen]

As per usual, our scrubs are really bad, even for summer league.
Primo looks smooth, needs more shots.
Devin is trying too hard and Tre looks like a third stringer.
Wieskamp not involved at all.

[Cardinal]

Primo's ball security is horrendous this game

[ace3g]

catch and shoot 3 for Primo.

[SAGirl]

At this point I am ready to just watch Primo chucking every ball. Just shoot.

[Dejounte]

This is what I'm saying, playing Primo with a PG allows him to get hot from deep.

[SAGirl]

Tre settling down making plays defensively and passing.

[spurraider21]

think we need to see more scoring from Tre

[SAGirl]

Does this Wolves team have any NBA players? Their first round pick went to GSW?

[Dejounte]

#25 just picking everybody's pocket. Damn.

[Das Texan]

Some of these guys are channeling their best Lonnie Walker here on D.

[Chinook]

Primo has good vision but bad awareness. He gets the ball picked a lot with playground moves.

[SAGirl]

think we need to see more scoring from Tre
I do believe that’s one thing he needs to show can’t survive as a PG in the NBA without some scoring.

[BillMc]

Glad to see the Riga Time OP. :bobo

Haven't seen the game so far, sounds like Primo is the best Spur out there from the comments you all are making.

[spurraider21]

I do believe that’s one thing he needs to show can’t survive as a PG in the NBA without some scoring.
yeah, thats why i keep referencing CoJo when discussing him. need to see some more juice. knowing how to "get the offense into its sets" or "making heady passes" isn't nearly enough to play PG today.

[TheGreatYacht]

Tre Jones needs some help. He has 7 assists but could easily have 12 right now.

Want to see him on the court with Weiskamp instead of vASSell

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Does this Wolves team have any NBA players? Their first round pick went to GSW?

McDanials was their draft pick last season. He got a lot of minutes towards the end of the year and started a bunch of games.

[Robz4000]

Glad to see the Riga Time OP. :bobo

Haven't seen the game so far, sounds like Primo is the best Spur out there from the comments you all are making.


Not saying much tbh.

[SAGirl]

Primo will have to get stronger, something very likely to happen naturally as he’s so young.

[SAGirl]

McDanials was their draft pick last season. He got a lot of minutes towards the end of the year and started a bunch of games.
Thanks for this info.

[SAGirl]

Vasell can’t find a jumper… bummed

[SAGirl]

Vassell defense is on point though. Definitely

[Cardinal]

lmao that "block" by Wooten was an obvious goaltend...

[Chomag]

You have to be in denial if your not concerned over Primos lack of acceleration, any decent NBA level defender would smother him. That's if Spurs are wanting him to be more then 3and D type player that is.

[Chomag]

Jones is looking stronger then last year

[Kurgan]

If they ever want to be playmakers at the NBA level, Tre and Primo need to practice their handles all day, every day

[Chomag]

Tr Jones showing Forbes signing the finger

[TheGreatYacht]

If Tre doesn’t make the team after the Forbes signing and Primo pick....

Would be such a fucking Brian Wright move lmao

[Atl Spur]

Poise and is he coachable? I say yes, refining the skill will come.

[SAGirl]

I really want to see Tre do well. He’s settled down and been better. Making shots.

[Robz4000]

Vassell starting to take over.

[Chomag]

That's allot more dribbling then I care to see by Vassel

[SAGirl]

Vassell finally hit. 3! And made a couple steals.

[Chomag]

I guess they are going to sit Jones the moment he was getting hot so not to show up Forbes signing lol

[Atl Spur]

This will help more than it will help primo if he’s a player....a crappy game being picked on. I think he will be fine for the record! Give joe some shots!!

[Atl Spur]

This will help more than it will help primo if he’s a player....a crappy game being picked on. I think he will be fine for the record! Give joe some shots!!

[Robz4000]

I guess they are going to sit Jones the moment he was getting hot so not to show up Forbes signing lol

:lol anyone who thinks Forbes isn't gonna start, play heavy minutes, and steal time from the young players

[SAGirl]

Was that Becky on the bench?

[Robz4000]

Double post

[ace3g]

Was that Becky on the bench?

Yes, she is here with Dejounte and Keldon.

[Dejounte]

Damn tough shot by Tre!

[TheGreatYacht]

Refs screwing Jeffries on both ends

[Atl Spur]

This will help more than it will help primo if he’s a player....a crappy game being picked on. I think he will be fine for the record! Give joe some shots!!

[TheGreatYacht]

If you’re open, Tre will find you :wow

[Robz4000]

:lol ignoring the fact the Minny player barreled into both Spurs players to force the turnover

Vassell tho

[SAGirl]

Yes, she is here with Dejounte and Keldon.
Ty

[SAGirl]

Vassell played like an NBA player in the second half. Good to see.

[Russ]

Was that Becky on the bench?
Pretty sure it isn't.

[Robz4000]

:lmao now Minny gets to goaltend

[SAGirl]

Renfro nit going for that rebound ;)

[ace3g]

welp typical SL end of game possession..

[Biggems]

that was a shitty final possession...no screens, no pick and role.....nothing

[SAGirl]

I am sure that’s not what the coach Drew up

[TheGreatYacht]

That play :lmao this coach blows

[Robz4000]

Was a terribly officiating last minute too.

[Dejounte]

Tre is a true point guard that needs time on the main team.

Primo lost confidence towards the end after Pav Bev-lite hounded him.

Vassell hitting inefficient shots reminds me of Rudy Gay... ugly basketball. Defense was good though.

[Biggems]

hopefully demers and mitchell get some run next game

[SAGirl]

Well the guys showed some things, but the coaching wasn’t that good.

McDaniels a stick

[RC_Drunkford]

that was a classic Spurs out of time out play executed just how the main squad does it :lol

[Mugen]

Nice game for Tre. Going to suck when he's glued behind trash ass Bryn :lol

[xellos88330]

Primo definitely didn't pass my eye test. He was way too loose with the ball and crumbled under any semblance of defensive pressure. I only see a catch and shoot role player. I hope he proves me wrong though.

[Atl Spur]

Primo looked shook.... to be expected. I’d like to see him bounce back after getting his butt handed to him.

[Chomag]

Sad that Tre is going to be barried behind the pet Forbes no matter what because culture...

[Atl Spur]

Primo definitely didn't pass my eye test. He was way too loose with the ball and crumbled under any semblance of defensive pressure. I only see a catch and shoot role player. I hope he proves me wrong though.

He will pimp.

[spurraider21]

Vassell finally hit some shots... but man its hard to be excited about him

Primo came back to earth, his ball handling and quickness is nowhere near PG level. maybe he just needs to grow and bulk up to play as a wing?

Tre Jones started slow but came along. Hopefully he can become more of a shotmaker

[Eaglenole2002]

It’s summer league and all that, but damn, we look like we aren’t even running an offense. It’s ugly.

[Mugen]

Shout out to Coach Mitch for running a classic Gregg Popovich end of game play there on the final possession :lol

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Spurs would have won if Becky had been head coach :bang

[GAustex]

That 12th pick so far has not shown being worthy.
Patience is guess but so far not impressive

[playblair]

That 12th pick so far has not shown being worthy.
Patience is guess but so far not impressive
u said greg brown was a bust but greg has been impressive in summer league.......ur scouting is meh

[Mr. Body]

That was rough.

Vassell looks out of control and has a good way to go. Lots of long twos and his handle and movement are chaotic.

Primo's handle is terrible. If Vassell is chaotic with the ball, I don't know what to say about Primo. At least he can shoot, but he's already getting predictable with his moves. Longer-term project.

Tre Jones has the strength and enough speed to get into the lane and make plays. I expect good backup minutes. He needs a shot. Badly.

Team is wild and never feels like it knows what it's doing.

[Atl Spur]

Let primo get some reps, he’ll hopefully keep progressing. Gregg will get him right:)

[SAGirl]

That was rough.

Vassell looks out of control and has a good way to go. Lots of long twos and his handle and movement are chaotic.

Primo's handle is terrible. If Vassell is chaotic with the ball, I don't know what to say about Primo. At least he can shoot, but he's already getting predictable with his moves. Longer-term project.

Tre Jones has the strength and enough speed to get into the lane and make plays. I expect good backup minutes. He needs a shot. Badly.

Team is wild and never feels like it knows what it's doing.
I am with you. Your description matches my impression.

[playblair]

SAGirl (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) would u like to attend a g league game with me to watch the young spurs play this season? i have floor season tickers i will buy u whatever u want........if u r a guy its ok i am lonely i will forgive u

[cd98]

I thought Vassell got loose after a rusty first half. He made great shots, both off the ball and with the ball in his hands. I see improvement, though certainly more to work on. I really loved his defense too. He was a real disrupter.

Primo looked ok at times, but mostly shaky and lost confidence as the game wore on because he took a lot of bad shots. But that's an experience thing because he had looks, he just made them harder like he was overthinking.

I thought Jones looked good, but he got pressured heavily and had a few loose turnovers.

I thought Joe Wieskamp looked good, but didn't get a lot of great looks. He did get burned a few times on defense.

[Atl Spur]

Joe is a gamer, they just aren’t looking for him.

[GAustex]

u said greg brown was a bust but greg has been impressive in summer league.......ur scouting is meh
Ass licker you are wrong.
I said Brown disappointed at UT and it might be a good idea to take a chance on him in the second round if he was still there.
I also said he was a knucklehead and an amazing athlete.
Stupid fuck you are

[Russ]

Tre Jones looks pretty puny in person. He's a warrior but he may not have the body to play like he wants to.

Primo looked good. I don't think athleticism is a problem. He's not another Kyle Anderson. His turnovers stem from fearlessness not lack of skills. He'll make those same moves and hold on to the ball eventually. That.he can see it and feel it means he'll eventually do it.

[Dejounte]

Tre Jones looks pretty puny in person. He's a warrior but he may not have the body to play like he wants to.

Primo looked good. I don't think athleticism is a problem. He's not another Kyle Anderson. His turnovers stem from fearlessness not lack of skills. He'll make those same moves and hold on to the ball eventually. That.he can see it and feel it means he'll eventually do it.

Yeah, his problem tonight was carelessness. It seemed like he wasn’t 100% focused on the game.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/kin_wright25/status/1424911935624015874?s=21

Guy on the left is a killa on defense. Give credit where it’s due. If he doesnt have an nba contract, he should get one.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Nice game for Tre. Going to suck when he's glued behind trash ass Bryn :lol

Fvck!

[ducks]

Fvck!

Bend over then

[Spurs Homer]

I see good things ahead for vassell - he is ready to have a great season

i also think primo is going to improve very fast
not his best game tonite but this is a good experience for him

[Kurgan]

Joe's rebounding instincts are ok. Only positive thing I can say for him

[Ignazzz]

Spurs would have won if Becky had been head coach :bang

It was good practice in tanking

[Russ]

Las Vegas is completely masked up now.

I was here a few weeks ago for the US team exhibitions. No masks in the casinos or at the games.

Now it's masks at the games and anywhere indoors.

It's surprising how much a touristy place like this can change so quickly.

But I'm all in if that's what's required.

[ducks]

Las Vegas is completely masked up now.

I was here a few weeks ago for the US team exhibitions. No masks in the casinos or at the games.

Now it's masks at the games and anywhere indoors.

It's surprising how much a touristy place like this can change so quickly.

But I'm all in if that's what's required.

Last year Let’s see. More than 450,000 people went to Sturgis. In the end, fewer than 0.1% of them got COVID. So, no. Millions did not die. It was fine. But Tony Fauci did not change his guidance. He isn't deterred by his own bigotry and stupid predictions.

[SPURt]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/jOpLbiGmHR9S0/200.gif

[widowmaker]

SAGirl (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) would u like to attend a g league game with me to watch the young spurs play this season? i have floor season tickers i will buy u whatever u want........if u r a guy its ok i am lonely i will forgive u


She told me to let you know she’s all in if you don’t mind getting pegged by the end of the night.

[widowmaker]

Last year Let’s see. More than 450,000 people went to Sturgis. In the end, fewer than 0.1% of them got COVID. So, no. Millions did not die. It was fine. But Tony Fauci did not change his guidance. He isn't deterred by his own bigotry and stupid predictions.


Wow. You always have these numbers readily available you must be some kind of genius. You just know everything don’t you lol.

[Mr. Body]

I have ducks on ignore because he's a moron, but Sturgis last year was one of the events that ensured Covid was prolonged and spread all over the middle part of the United States. ducks spends most of his time with his tongue up Trump's ass, or imagining it, so he's utterly worthless as a human being.

[rjv]

I have ducks on ignore because he's a moron, but Sturgis last year was one of the events that ensured Covid was prolonged and spread all over the middle part of the United States. ducks spends most of his time with his tongue up Trump's ass, or imagining it, so he's utterly worthless as a human being.

ducks isn't quite human; i think it's somewhere in between an australopithecine and Neanderthal

[Mr. Body]

ducks isn't quite human; i think it's somewhere in between an australopithecine and Neanderthal

Neanderthals were far more intelligent than ducks.