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hater
08-12-2021, 10:33 AM
:wow

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1425814566387261441?s=19

Holy shit looks like Taliban had this planned all along. They just played NATO and the US like a fiddle :wow

hater
08-12-2021, 10:35 AM
This is possibly the most embarrassing moment in NATOs history and top 5 in US history.:wow

hater
08-12-2021, 10:36 AM
:wow

https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1425840404679716864?s=19

hater
08-12-2021, 10:39 AM
https://twitter.com/paykhar/status/1425830672590151680?s=19

:wow

hater
08-12-2021, 10:42 AM
Taliban going Attila the Hun on mofos :wow

boutons_deux
08-12-2021, 10:45 AM
Another empire, "exceptional", overflowing with self-congratulating hubris, fails to tame Afghanistan

Military failure in Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan.

When do Americans ever quit spending $100Bs/year on the corrupt Capitalist MIC? Where is the return on investment?

4x more military have committed suicide 30000 than were killed 7000 in Iraq and Afghanistan. Something is fucking toxic about the military

Winehole23
08-12-2021, 10:48 AM
what did you think would happen?

hater
08-12-2021, 10:52 AM
what did you think would happen?

Inbelieve according to peace agreement. Taliban was going to negotiate peace w Kabul.government.

NATO, US and Joe got duped epically.

Thread
08-12-2021, 11:28 AM
what did you think would happen?

Mother fucker Biden's fuck up. And he'd better airlift that embassy, toot sweet, Winester. They'll be draggin' 'em thru the streets like they did that one fellow that Hillary Clinton threw to the lions.

Thread
08-12-2021, 11:29 AM
Inbelieve according to peace agreement. Taliban was going to negotiate peace w Kabul.government.

NATO, US and Joe got duped epically.

They're pissed and lookin' for payback.

C'mon, Joe, where's your plan, buddy-boy?

Winehole23
08-12-2021, 11:30 AM
Inbelieve according to peace agreement. Taliban was going to negotiate peace w Kabul.government.

NATO, US and Joe got duped epically.nah, but you seem have been

FrostKing
08-12-2021, 11:37 AM
Vietnam Part 2

Load up the chopper and escape

baseline bum
08-12-2021, 11:48 AM
hater wanted to stay in Afghanistan now :lmao

hater
08-12-2021, 12:03 PM
hater wanted to stay in Afghanistan now :lmao

We never should have been there for 20 years. Should have left when Obomba promised to leave.

Should have left as soon as Bin Laden was killed.

Now we are reaping what we sowed. Poured trillions into an inpt Afghan army and now Taliban will reap the loot of US weapons.

Total failure. And the speed at which Taliban taking over shows that they duped NATO and had planned this long ago :lol

hater
08-12-2021, 12:04 PM
Mother fucker Biden's fuck up. And he'd better airlift that embassy, toot sweet, Winester. They'll be draggin' 'em thru the streets like they did that one fellow that Hillary Clinton threw to the lions.

:wow

baseline bum
08-12-2021, 12:10 PM
We never should have been there for 20 years. Should have left when Obomba promised to leave.

Should have left as soon as Bin Laden was killed.

Now we are reaping what we sowed. Poured trillions into an inpt Afghan army and now Taliban will reap the loot of US weapons.

Total failure. And the speed at which Taliban taking over shows that they duped NATO and had planned this long ago :lol

Should have left when Trump promised to leave too.

hater
08-12-2021, 12:15 PM
Should have left when Trump promised to leave too.

Sure both Obomba and Dump failed. And now Biden has biggest embarrasment in last 20 years

hater
08-12-2021, 12:21 PM
God damn

What an utter embarrasment

https://twitter.com/arifnajmi6/status/1425848636102094852?s=19

baseline bum
08-12-2021, 12:21 PM
Sure both Obomba and Dump failed. And now Biden has biggest embarrasment in last 20 years

By doing what you said Obama and Trump should have done?

LaMarcus Bryant
08-12-2021, 12:22 PM
:wow

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1425814566387261441?s=19

Holy shit looks like Taliban had this planned all along. They just played NATO and the US like a fiddle :wow


If by planning and playing you mean living there, having nowhere else to go, and staying alive until we left, then yeah. Well done, Taliban.

Will Hunting
08-12-2021, 12:23 PM
:lol can't say I'm surprised that hater is moving the goalposts and criticizing Biden for leaving Afghanistan after he complained non-stop about US imperialism in the middle east for years.

Thread
08-12-2021, 12:23 PM
Should have left when Trump promised to leave too.

And I'll stipulate here and now that President Trump fucked up when he wanted to pull out of there and the Generals talked him out of it. What the fuck was he thinking? He should have pulled every American man, woman and child out of there in 72 hours.

hater
08-12-2021, 12:24 PM
By doing what you said Obama and Trump should have done?

Reread Bidens speech on withdrawal and tell me.what he said would happen is happening :lmao

baseline bum
08-12-2021, 12:27 PM
Reread Bidens speech on withdrawal and tell me.what he said would happen is happening :lmao

hater butthurt it was 46 that actually pulled us out of Afghanistan after nothing but hot air from the Dear Nazi.

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08-12-2021, 12:29 PM
:lol can't say I'm surprised that hater is moving the goalposts and criticizing Biden for leaving Afghanistan after he complained non-stop about US imperialism in the middle east for years.

There ain't nothing wrong with leaving..aka (cut & running). But don't tease 'em by leaving that Embassy sitting there staffed because [you/Biden] can't stand to lose. You lost. We lost.

What, you don't think they/Taliban can't figure our shit out? Vanity is a killer. And that is where Biden is at this morning, stubbornly entrenched in vanity in front of MSM.
Taliban is hoping against all hope that we brazen it out and remain in that Embassy. They'll take their sweet ass time getting to us, step-by-step as they take care of all their fellows who sided us along the 20+ years way, and some who didn't///but its an opportunity to clear old gripes/tee, hee.

hater
08-12-2021, 12:29 PM
hater butthurt it was 46 that actually pulled us out of Afghanistan after nothing but hot air from the Dear Nazi.

Thisisfine.gif

hater
08-12-2021, 12:30 PM
There ain't nothing wrong with leaving..aka (cut & running). But don't tease 'em by leaving that Embassy sitting there staffed because [you/Biden] can't stand to lose. You lost. We lost.

What, you don't think they/Taliban can't figure our shit out? Vanity is a killer. And that is where Biden is at this morning, stubbornly entrenched in vanity in front of MSM.
Taliban is hoping against all hope that we brazen it out and remain in that Embassy. They'll take their sweet ass time getting to us, step-by-step as they take care of all their fellows who sided us along the 20+ years way, and some who didn't///but its an opportunity to clear old gripes/tee, hee.

Bingo

Democrats: thisisfine.gif

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08-12-2021, 12:32 PM
hater (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7609) butthurt it was 46 that actually pulled us out of Afghanistan after nothing but hot air from the Dear Nazi.

I'll grant ya, bum, I don't hide my shit, I too am "butthurt" for the same damn reason. President Trump knew it was the right thing to do, but got caught up trying to play footsie with those Generals. Fuck!!!

Will Hunting
08-12-2021, 12:33 PM
Bingo

Democrats: thisisfine.gif
It's not fine. We lost and should leave. If the Taliban are taking the country back with so much ease after a 20 year US occupation, it means that keeping troops there longer would have only staved off the inevitable.

What do you think Biden should have done?

Will Hunting
08-12-2021, 12:36 PM
I'll grant ya, bum, I don't hide my shit, I too am "butthurt" for the same damn reason. President Trump knew it was the right thing to do, but got caught up trying to play footsie with those Generals. Fuck!!!
That's where Biden's experience actually matters. Biden flat out said to O'Bummer "I know what it looks like when the generals are trying to jam a new president...don't let them jam you" and O'Bummer ignored him. Obama and Trump both got bullied by the generals.

Letting the generals tell you when we need to keep our troops stationed overseas is the equivalent of letting your barber tell you when he thinks you need a haircut.

hater
08-12-2021, 12:36 PM
It's not fine. We lost and should leave. If the Taliban are taking the country back with so much ease after a 20 year US occupation, it means that keeping troops there longer would have only staved off the inevitable.

What do you think Biden should have done?

All americans civilians should have left. Especially embassy folks. Way before the troops.

Close the embassy and take back whatever weapons and hardware from inept Afghan army that could be taken by Taliban.

Migrate the thousands of Afghans that helped us for the last 20 years to USA. As they will get obliterated.

In other words complete surrender and retreat..old joe tried to save face.by saying he is leaving a capable.government and army :lol

Thread
08-12-2021, 12:37 PM
It's not fine. We lost and should leave. If the Taliban are taking the country back with so much ease after a 20 year US occupation, it means that keeping troops there longer would have only staved off the inevitable.

What do you think Biden should have done?

...what he's done. Now finish it...pull the Embassy and lick our wounds. And never do it again. We learned nothing from Vietnam. Well, the only thing we learned was how to save more of our children's lives as not so many came thru Dover, AFB, but instead came thru commercial flights, blown all to hell, but yet alive.

Thread
08-12-2021, 12:39 PM
All americans civilians should have left. Especially embassy folks. Way before the troops.

Close the embassy and take back whatever weapons and hardware from inept Afghan army that could be taken by Taliban.

Migrate the thousands of Afghans that helped us for the last 20 years to USA. As they will get obliterated.

In other words complete surrender and retreat..old joe tried to save face.by saying he is leaving a capable.government and army :lol

No other way to phrase it except in that stone cold reality.

And who else gets a last laugh, fellows? The Poot.

Thread
08-12-2021, 12:41 PM
That's where Biden's experience actually matters. Biden flat out said to O'Bummer "I know what it looks like when the generals are trying to jam a new president...don't let them jam you" and O'Bummer ignored him. Obama and Trump both got bullied by the generals.

Letting the generals tell you when we need to keep our troops stationed overseas is the equivalent of letting your barber tell you when he thinks you need a haircut.

The bitter truth.

Will

Will Hunting
08-12-2021, 12:43 PM
All americans civilians should have left. Especially embassy folks. Way before the troops.

Close the embassy and take back whatever weapons and hardware from inept Afghan army that could be taken by Taliban.

Migrate the thousands of Afghans that helped us for the last 20 years to USA. As they will get obliterated.

In other words complete surrender and retreat..old joe tried to save face.by saying he is leaving a capable.government and army :lol
Oh OK so you want Biden to literally hand the country back to the Taliban and basically suicide bomb his presidency.

Yeah that seems like a totally realistic expectation.

Thread
08-12-2021, 12:47 PM
Oh OK so you want Biden to literally hand the country back to the Taliban and basically suicide bomb his presidency.

Yeah that seems like a totally realistic expectation.

Biden can hand it over, or, the Taliban would rather he resist and they can take it back, but it's going back over. Biden lost. Trump lost. Obama lost. We lost. It happens. It happened in Vietnam and we swore it would never happen again.

It's happened again.

hater
08-12-2021, 12:50 PM
Oh OK so you want Biden to literally hand the country back to the Taliban and basically suicide bomb his presidency.

Yeah that seems like a totally realistic expectation.

Well thats basically what he did. Except he left tons of loot and cannon fodder civilians.

If 1 embassy guy somehow gets killed by Taliban. Biden is beyond kaput. Hopefully does not happen

hater
08-12-2021, 12:52 PM
Biden can hand it over, or, the Taliban would rather he resist and they can take it back, but it's going back over. Biden lost. Trump lost. Obama lost. We lost. It happens. It happened in Vietnam and we swore it would never happen again.

It's happened again.

:wow

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hater
08-12-2021, 02:12 PM
https://twitter.com/Spacereportern1/status/1425895885012099082?s=19

hater
08-12-2021, 02:18 PM
God damn US is stupid. They actually beghing Taliban to allow americans to stay in the embassy? They will keep trusting the Taliban over and over?

All to just save face???

Get themmda fuck out of there. If theres one american death. Democrats are Kaput.

https://twitter.com/jakesNYT/status/1425829529126268934?s=19

hater
08-12-2021, 02:29 PM
"To da choppa!!!!!!"

https://twitter.com/ImMsB41/status/1425902117429161992?s=19

hater
08-12-2021, 02:31 PM
:lmao

https://twitter.com/JunkLc/status/1425902106985250816?s=19

ducks
08-12-2021, 02:32 PM
Where is the un?
We spend millions to them

hater
08-12-2021, 02:32 PM
:lol

https://twitter.com/Photo_Jacks/status/1425901669724803072?s=19

hater
08-12-2021, 02:48 PM
Damn Taliban are taking even precious Kabul Airport which US/Turkey were planning to keep. :wow

https://twitter.com/CangulOrnek/status/1425906768232787977?s=19

SnakeBoy
08-12-2021, 02:49 PM
Running Scared

Biden's America

hater
08-12-2021, 02:49 PM
When it rains. It pours.

https://twitter.com/RupertStone83/status/1425906851720441860?s=19

hater
08-12-2021, 02:54 PM
Running Scared

Biden's America

https://twitter.com/AninBanerjee/status/1425902900497195012?s=19

hater
08-12-2021, 02:58 PM
These Taliban cave dwellers just beat both prime Soviets and prime Yankees :wow

Got damn

Thread
08-12-2021, 03:00 PM
"To da choppa!!!!!!"

https://twitter.com/ImMsB41/status/1425902117429161992?s=19

I was first. Me. And don't anybody try and claim otherwise.

I-was-first!!!

koriwhat
08-12-2021, 03:03 PM
Where is the un?
We spend millions to them

Being pedos and staging false flag photo ops as usual.

Thread
08-12-2021, 03:04 PM
Running Scared

Biden's America

There is nary other choice now, Snake. It's either "Running Scared" - or, have those Embassy troops & civilians dragged thru the streets, dead and butchered. It was reported that last Embassy boss, first name "Chris?" had his his kidneys excised while was he still alive and then dragged thru the streets.

No more time for bravado now. Biden should have closed it immediately and vamoosed. He can no longer brazen it out. It's over.

hater
08-12-2021, 03:06 PM
:lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1425910834304274439?s=19

koriwhat
08-12-2021, 03:09 PM
Sleepy fucking Joe did out. Got us the fuck out of that fucking rathole. We don't fucking need it. :lol

Lol As if he's not one of the reasons for being in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc... You go ahead and keep celebrating scum like Biden while demonizing those who weren't even involved in sending our Troops to die in that sandbox.

Thread
08-12-2021, 03:10 PM
:lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao :lol

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1425910834304274439?s=19

The bitter truth. And he knew he'd have to suffer this reality, but he went ahead and brazened it out. "At least nothing will happen for a month, or, at least a fortnight. I'll do what Teddy Kennedy did when that Kopechne girl told him she was pregnant..."I'll cross that bridge when we get to it." Same with Biden here.


It's typical how our gov't works now. Like their people (us) work as well, frankly.

What's gonna be so much fun is how CNN/MSM help him here. That's always the best part now.

Spurtacular
08-12-2021, 03:11 PM
:lol "Captured"
:lol Globalist Karen(s) wants manufactured war.

SnakeBoy
08-12-2021, 03:12 PM
Somebody had to take the L

Glad it's Biden tbh

Thread
08-12-2021, 03:18 PM
It's a fucking rathole and we don't need it. :lol

The old man told ya's that 4 years ago and you high tech lynched him for it. Now you parrot him, Titan.

If this ain't the livin' end. tee, hee.

Thread
08-12-2021, 03:19 PM
Somebody had to take the L

Glad it's Biden tbh

By the end of the Sunday morning talk shows they'll have canonized Biden for (it), Snake. They are, at this moment mounting that Sunday morning barrage lickity split. It'll be something else again.

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 03:31 PM
the alternative was to stay there indefinitely ie forever

ducks
08-12-2021, 03:41 PM
Obama lied to Americans about withdrawal from Afghanistan: book
Obama declared in 2014 that the war was coming to a 'responsible conclusion'

ducks
08-12-2021, 03:41 PM
the alternative was to stay there indefinitely ie forever

No un can threaten nukes and use them if needed

SnakeBoy
08-12-2021, 04:00 PM
Pentagon sending 3,000 troops to Kabul to help evacuate U.S. embassy
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/pentagon-sending-3000-troops-to-kabul-to-help-evacuate-us-embassy/

Pentagon says don't worry it's narrowly focused and temporary

When asked how long Pentagon said don't worry it's narrowly focused and temporary

When asked if it's a combat mission Pentagon said don't worry it's narrowly focused and temporary

When asked again if it's a combat mission Pentagon said don't worry it's narrowly focused and temporary

ducks
08-12-2021, 04:05 PM
Does not congress have to give the authority ?

hater
08-12-2021, 04:18 PM
One of the saddest things about war is that someone always has to be Baghdad Bob :lmao

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1425906398328655881?s=19

https://twitter.com/gallifreyan/status/1425923995128320000?s=19


:lmao Kabul Ned :lol

SnakeBoy
08-12-2021, 05:21 PM
:lol

Thread
08-12-2021, 05:36 PM
One of the saddest things about war is that someone always has to be Baghdad Bob :lmao

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1425906398328655881?s=19

https://twitter.com/gallifreyan/status/1425923995128320000?s=19


:lmao Kabul Ned :lol

He leaves those kids in that Embassy and we will see a shit show. And he's tempted, by God. "Will it hold?"

tee, hee.

ducks
08-12-2021, 06:44 PM
After more than $2 trillion spent by the US, Afghanistan is falling back to the Taliban
From its start in 2001 through April 2021, the war in Afghanistan has cost U.S. taxpayers approximately $2.261 trillion

boutons_deux
08-12-2021, 07:23 PM
3000 military back to Afghanistan to help push helicopters off the embassy roof

ducks
08-12-2021, 07:35 PM
Thanks biden
Trump would have blown them to hell and back

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 07:47 PM
Thanks biden
Trump would have blown them to hell and back
trump had 4 years to do whatever he wanted in afghanistan

Thread
08-12-2021, 08:06 PM
After more than $2 trillion spent by the US, Afghanistan is falling back to the Taliban
From its start in 2001 through April 2021, the war in Afghanistan has cost U.S. taxpayers approximately $2.261 trillion

But only roughly 2k came back thru Dover, AFB vs. Vietnam where over 50k died in less than the 20 years war in Afghan.

Thread
08-12-2021, 08:07 PM
trump had 4 years to do whatever he wanted in afghanistan

Hussein had 8.

Thread
08-12-2021, 08:07 PM
3000 military back to Afghanistan to help push helicopters off the embassy roof

& drink bottled Coke.

MultiTroll
08-12-2021, 08:11 PM
Just another shift in heroin sales and profit taking.
US has been in on it all along.

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08-12-2021, 08:12 PM
Trump killed 600k RED BLOODED AMERICANS in 1 year!!!

You can't beat that. Millions of jobs lost in 4 years. You can't beat that.

& Biden has killed over 238k of same blooded Americans in less than 7 months.

GB20
08-12-2021, 08:34 PM
Majority of the American people agree with Joe Biden taking the troops out from Afghanistan.

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08-12-2021, 08:54 PM
Majority of the American people agree with Joe Biden taking the troops out from Afghanistan.

Though now he's sent 3k of 'em back in there, Geebs.

hater
08-12-2021, 10:24 PM
trump had 4 years to do whatever he wanted in afghanistan

Even if you put Lebron and Pop in charge. The Taliban woukd still run circles around us. Our bloated slow as fuck military is like a stuck pig vs moder guerrilla warfare.

Time to blow it a up

ducks
08-12-2021, 10:52 PM
trump had 4 years to do whatever he wanted in afghanistan
Tailban were under control then
He told them what he would do and they knew he meant it

hater
08-12-2021, 10:54 PM
Tailban were under control then
He told them what he would do and they knew he meant it

No we were getting obliterated by Taliban. With Obomba, Dump, Pop, Phil Jackson, whoever

The Talibqn were like the 2000 lakers. Its been time for us yo tank and go for 1st round draft for a while. Our military is ancient. We can basically get obliterated by anyone these days.

benefactor
08-12-2021, 11:09 PM
Tailban were under control then
He told them what he would do and they knew he meant it
:lol

spurraider21
08-12-2021, 11:33 PM
Tailban were under control then
He told them what he would do and they knew he meant it
so he was just gonna keep the military there forever

cool!

ElNono
08-13-2021, 01:00 AM
Listen jack, not our problem anymore. Get everybody out, cordon off the area and let them go at it.

Thanks Old Joe :tu

Winehole23
08-13-2021, 01:12 AM
Listen jack, not our problem anymore. Get everybody out, cordon off the area and let them go at it.

Thanks Old Joe :tuAbout one year after we went there i was ridiing with a NY wine rep, an Army vet, who didn't want to be in the van with the other wine reps.

He said: they killed us, we killed them, mission accomplished, bring em home.

He was right.

Thread
08-13-2021, 03:11 AM
Listen jack, not our problem anymore. Get everybody out, cordon off the area and let them go at it.

Thanks Old Joe :tu

He just sent 3k back in there, El.

pgardn
08-13-2021, 07:49 AM
Even if you put Lebron and Pop in charge. The Taliban woukd still run circles around us. Our bloated slow as fuck military is like a stuck pig vs moder guerrilla warfare.

Time to blow it a up


this is incredibly stupid

we absolutely could take back all of the major cities run them back into the mountains and keep them there. but the price we would pay and lives in money would enormous.
The lesson we have learned from history is when playing with fanatics you better become a fanatic and be hell-bent on suffering like they do. Throw the Geneva conventions out the window and play the game all in.

if we had gone full on killing Osama bin Laden and then got the hell out, that would’ve been it. but since we were already there why not try to reform their system to satisfy our needs. we were never willing to be as dirty and vicious as the job required. we have succeeded in soft wars before but applying that to Afghanistan was pure folly.

boutons_deux
08-13-2021, 07:50 AM
USA has accomplished nothing in Iraq or Afghanistan, but to counter/spite Biden, RWNJs want to continue accomplishing nothing.

The American Empire doesn't spread freedom, democracy, and The American Way.

USA spreads death, destruction, and anything but democracy

hater
08-13-2021, 08:00 AM
About one year after we went there i was ridiing with a NY wine rep, an Army vet, who didn't want to be in the van with the other wine reps.

He said: they killed us, we killed them, mission accomplished, bring em home.

He was right.

What a dumb bastard

pgardn
08-13-2021, 08:06 AM
USA has accomplished nothing in Iraq or Afghanistan, but to counter/spite Biden, RWNJs want to continue accomplishing nothing.

The American Empire doesn't spread freedom, democracy, and The American Way.

USA spreads death, destruction, and anything but democracy

We accomplished killing Sadam Hussein.
Iraq was much more Westernized than Afghanistan. When the general with the Indian last name told the president it would take at LEAST 500,000 troops he was fired. A massive controlling effort would have pacified and solidified the institutions already in place. It might have worked here imo. We would not have created an evolutionary situation where we splintered fanatical factions and allowed them to grow and flourish with the help of outside entities. imo
After the pacification would have come the difficulty of possibly dividing the country up and using the institutions already in place to create some sort of new governing body. This has worked before. This would have been much tougher, especially at the border.
feel free to call me a lunatic, but these situations all have their nuances. Afghanistan was a very difficult job. We did accomplish getting a fairly large population of females enough education where they will now write about the history of the conflict from other countries where they are safe. imo...

hater
08-13-2021, 08:07 AM
this is incredibly stupid

we absolutely could take back all of the major cities run them back into the mountains and keep them there. but the price we would pay and lives in money would enormous.
The lesson we have learned from history is when playing with fanatics you better become a fanatic and be hell-bent on suffering like they do. Throw the Geneva conventions out the window and play the game all in.

if we had gone full on killing Osama bin Laden and then got the hell out, that would’ve been it. but since we were already there why not try to reform their system to satisfy our needs. we were never willing to be as dirty and vicious as the job required. we have succeeded in soft wars before but applying that to Afghanistan was pure folly.

Sure we could do it temporarily. Spend another 3 trillion and blast another few hundred thousand civilians in the process. Then theyd come back and run us out again. Thats what I meant. We cannot win vs them..eventually.they will beat us.

USA was banking on the Afghan Army to at leastnput up a fight for a.few years and at least keep a few provinces. The reality is all the fancy smancy american traiining, weapons and hardware is ancient and complete garbage. Thus why Taliban are running the board in not years, not months, not even weeks but DAYS.

That imo is the biggest embarrassment for USA. Its like we trained a prizefighter for 20 years and he gets absolutely obliterated at 12 seconds in round 1 :lol


Absolute catastrophic failure. And its not the first time. Our trained Syrian rebels got wrecked as well and whole battallions turned over their weapons and fled at the sight of the Syrian Army :lmao

pgardn
08-13-2021, 08:18 AM
Sure we could do it temporarily. Spend another 3 trillion and blast another few hundred thousand civilians in the process. Then theyd come back and run us out again. Thats what I meant. We cannot win vs them..eventually.they will beat us.

USA was banking on the Afghan Army to at leastnput up a fight for a.few years and at least keep a few provinces. The reality is all the fancy smancy american traiining, weapons and hardware is ancient and complete garbage. Thus why Taliban are running the board in not years, not months, not even weeks but DAYS.

That imo is the biggest embarrassment for USA. Its like we trained a prizefighter for 20 years and he gets absolutely obliterated at 12 seconds in round 1 :lol


Absolute catastrophic failure. And its not the first time. Our trained Syrian rebels got wrecked as well and whole battallions turned over their weapons and fled at the sight of the Syrian Army :lmao

Eventually nothing.

If we are willing to pay the price we have the money and the people.
We are not willing to pay the price, because the price is too high.
Dont pretend WE CANNOT do it. We dont WANT to do it.

We accomplished getting Afghanistan some relief and educating young ones. This was not the goal.
And we will have a better understanding of all that went wrong a whole lot better because a number of people we have allowed to become educated will write about this. And imo it will let us know the only way is to go all in. This is not Grenada or Panama or... Yugoslavia. Its different. Minor success drives big dreams apparently.

hater
08-13-2021, 08:27 AM
Mama Mia. You know things are dire when Jimmy Dore and Tucker agree to 100% :lmao

What a shitshow

:lmao Joe Biden

https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1425990539053178889?s=20

pgardn
08-13-2021, 08:33 AM
Mama Mia. You know things are dire when Jimmy Dore and Tucker agree to 100% :lmao

What a shitshow

:lmao Joe Biden

https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1425990539053178889?s=20

The people you listen to...

Do you understand that FOX has told us Tucker Carlson and his show is something any reasonable person should know is not to be taken seriously... and Jimmy dore... because they are popular they actually are considered worthy of any kind of expertise? Lets listen to Madonna and how she wants to blow up president Trump maybe.

They are entertainers. They are for fun.

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 08:35 AM
Mama Mia. You know things are dire when Jimmy Dore and Tucker agree to 100% :lmao

What a shitshow

:lmao Joe Biden

https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1425990539053178889?s=20
90% of jimmy dore's content is just pro republican :lol... he's another glenn greenwald

hater
08-13-2021, 08:37 AM
90% of jimmy dore's content is just pro republican :lol... he's another glenn greenwald

Disagree 1120%

100% of Dores comments are anti war :tu

Hes a legend :tu

pgardn
08-13-2021, 08:38 AM
The people you listen to...

Do you understand that FOX has told us Tucker Carlson and his show is something any reasonable person should know is not to be taken seriously... and Jimmy dore... because they are popular they actually are considered worthy of any kind of expertise? Lets listen to Madonna and how she wants to blow up president Trump maybe.

They are entertainers. They are for fun.

Crap...
Maybe the real point is that about 1/3 of Americans do listen to these entertainers and believe the outrage of the day.

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 08:42 AM
Disagree 1120%

100% of Dores comments are anti war :tu

Hes a legend :tu
he's a hack tbh...

he's always been a Tulsi fan, for instance.

now consider that he always says he wants medicare for all, he organized the march for medicare for all, he was furious at house dems for not "forcing the vote" by delaying pelosi's confirmation, etc.

when Tulsi told him that she favored a public option and not medicare for all, he was all forgiving like "well thats kind of medicare for all, so i'm glad we agree!"

when public option is what biden ran on and dore shit on him for it :lol

Thread
08-13-2021, 08:57 AM
USA has accomplished nothing in Iraq or Afghanistan, but to counter/spite Biden, RWNJs want to continue accomplishing nothing.

The American Empire doesn't spread freedom, democracy, and The American Way.

USA spreads death, destruction, and anything but democracy

...& keeps a generous supply for in house spreading.

hater
08-13-2021, 08:57 AM
he's a hack tbh...

he's always been a Tulsi fan, for instance.

now consider that he always says he wants medicare for all, he organized the march for medicare for all, he was furious at house dems for not "forcing the vote" by delaying pelosi's confirmation, etc.

when Tulsi told him that she favored a public option and not medicare for all, he was all forgiving like "well thats kind of medicare for all, so i'm glad we agree!"

when public option is what biden ran on and dore shit on him for it :lol

Disagree 1050%

Nothing wrong w Tulsi. She is also a patriot, veteran and anti war hero.

Now. You said 90% of the things Dore said in the clip are Republican.

Go ahead and post a few examples...

boutons_deux
08-13-2021, 09:02 AM
We accomplished killing Sadam Hussein.
Iraq was much more Westernized than Afghanistan. When the general with the Indian last name told the president it would take at LEAST 500,000 troops he was fired. A massive controlling effort would have pacified and solidified the institutions already in place. It might have worked here imo. We would not have created an evolutionary situation where we splintered fanatical factions and allowed them to grow and flourish with the help of outside entities. imo
After the pacification would have come the difficulty of possibly dividing the country up and using the institutions already in place to create some sort of new governing body. This has worked before. This would have been much tougher, especially at the border.
feel free to call me a lunatic, but these situations all have their nuances. Afghanistan was a very difficult job. We did accomplish getting a fairly large population of females enough education where they will now write about the history of the conflict from other countries where they are safe. imo...

Leaving Hussein in place would have been the better option than the shitshow of Iraq since 2003, the unending shitshow.

But BigOil wanted Iraq's oil so it LIED itself into yet another geopolitical disaster.

Repugs did kill a few of OBL's group right after 9/11, but then made the huge mistake of staying. The locals, as in Viet Nam and Iraq, have always outlasted the invasions of the American predators.

Winehole23
08-13-2021, 09:35 AM
What a dumb bastardyeah you are

Thread
08-13-2021, 09:35 AM
Leaving Hussein in place would have been the better option than the shitshow of Iraq since 2003, the unending shitshow.

But BigOil wanted Iraq's oil so it LIED itself into yet another geopolitical disaster.

Repugs did kill a few of OBL's group right after 9/11, but then made the huge mistake of staying. The locals, as in Viet Nam and Iraq, have always outlasted the invasions of the American predators.

& OBL himself on speculation by Hussein. A practice run on suspending (due process) don't you know. tee, hee.

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 10:01 AM
Biden does what hater said he wanted for 20 years.

hater doesn't want it anymore because it wasn't Trump doing it.

hater
08-13-2021, 10:02 AM
yeah you are

No he is. Stupid bastard.

Reminds me of Shillary "we came, he died, we went home"

So he admitds he basivally went there set the house on fire went home and "mission accomplished"

What exactly.did he accomplish???

ducks
08-13-2021, 10:05 AM
so he was just gonna keep the military there forever

cool!
No his threats Worked
He told them he was going to pull out

hater
08-13-2021, 10:07 AM
Biden does what hater said he wanted for 20 years.

hater doesn't want it anymore because it wasn't Trump doing it.

Biden left and relied on Afghan Army to protect Kabul :lol

He left US embassy folks thinking they would be safe w Afghan Army :lol

Biden said theres no way in hell Kabul would fall. The 70k Taliban are nothing compared to 300k US trained Afghans :lol

He took troops home while increased bombing on Taliba. At the same time and expected Taliban to stay away from Kabul :lmao


:lmao Biden. One of the fastest most epic fuckups by a president in history :lmao

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 10:07 AM
No his threats Worked
He told them he was going to pull out
but he didnt

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 10:07 AM
:madrun
Did you want US forces out of Afghanistan?

Yes or no.

Thread
08-13-2021, 10:08 AM
Biden left and relied on Afghan Army to protect Kabul :lol

He left US embassy folks thinking they would be safe w Afghan Army :lol

Biden said theres no way in hell Kabul would fall. The 70k Taliban are nothing compared to 300k US trained Afghans :lol

He took troops home while increased bombing on Taliba. At the same time and expected Taliban to stay away from Kabul :lmao


:lmao Biden. One of the fastest most epic fuckups by a president in history :lmao

Tell it, hater.

Bust their fuckin' holes of a Friday morn!!!

hater
08-13-2021, 10:16 AM
Did you want US forces out of Afghanistan?

Yes or no.

Were sending 3000 back


Thats not leaving

elbamba1
08-13-2021, 10:17 AM
I thought Thor beat the Taliban on a horse? What are they still doing alive?

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 10:19 AM
Were sending 3000 back


Thats not leaving
Not my question.

Did you want US forces out of Afghanistan?

Yes or no.

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 10:20 AM
Not my question.

Did you want US forces out of Afghanistan?

Yes or no.
it depends who the president is

hater
08-13-2021, 10:27 AM
it depends who the president is

Fake news. I always said Obomba failed, Dump failed and now Biden failed except Biden got a sandal up his ass :lol

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 10:33 AM
Neocon hater folds

hater
08-13-2021, 10:41 AM
Damn that would be epic embarrassing and sad

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1426206163868258309?s=19

hater
08-13-2021, 11:07 AM
:lmao Istitute of Study of War preparing for fall of Kabul by telling its employees to avoid sharing sad news and images especially Saigon like imagery :lmao :lol :lmao :lol :lmao

Holy fuck :lmao

https://twitter.com/runclepennybags/status/1426183521643769866?s=19

hater
08-13-2021, 11:09 AM
:lmao warmongers and/or neocons coming out of their holes again :lol

https://twitter.com/TheHillOpinion/status/1426213707441483787?s=19

hater
08-13-2021, 11:10 AM
Damn.

Taliban 50km (30m) away from Kabul

Most of Afghan army has deserted escaped or joined the Taliban

hater
08-13-2021, 11:13 AM
Damn

If true this is a masterful move

No wonder cities are falling like cards

https://twitter.com/bellahatunn/status/1426210308595589121?s=19

Thread
08-13-2021, 11:21 AM
Damn

If true this is a masterful move

No wonder cities are falling like cards

https://twitter.com/bellahatunn/status/1426210308595589121?s=19


Tell it, hater.

Testify!!!

ElNono
08-13-2021, 11:31 AM
He just sent 3k back in there, El.

Well, the excuse is to assist evacuation. We’ll see.

ElNono
08-13-2021, 11:41 AM
Not sure what the bitching is about. If Old Warmonger Joe didn’t want to leave, he would just not have given the order and take the hit for it, tbh.

hater
08-13-2021, 12:19 PM
Not sure what the bitching is about. If Old Warmonger Joe didn’t want to leave, he would just not have given the order and take the hit for it, tbh.

The possibility of US embassy burning to the ground in 9/11 would make Saigon look like a Championship Parade.

But sure. Nothing to see here :lol

hater
08-13-2021, 01:44 PM
:lol

https://twitter.com/KeithAppell/status/1426253003544215553?s=19

hater
08-13-2021, 01:44 PM
https://twitter.com/KeithAppell/status/1426253003544215553?s=19

ducks
08-13-2021, 02:15 PM
Biden vacates D.C. as Afghanistan, immigration crises accelerate
Deteriorating situation in Afghanistan leads the list of policy nightmares confronting a relaxing president

SnakeBoy
08-13-2021, 02:32 PM
9/11

Taliban Independence Day

https://media.giphy.com/media/AwcmOV28QPnck/giphy.gif

Spurs Homer
08-13-2021, 02:38 PM
Never knew the Taliban had this many fans here at spurstalk!

Enjoy “your” victory!

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 02:41 PM
:lmao neocon hater wants to keep troops in afghanistan forever

FrostKing
08-13-2021, 02:49 PM
https://i.ibb.co/BwCsmKh/7053.jpg

Begging Biden. Today's America. Everyone's punching bag.

SnakeBoy
08-13-2021, 03:00 PM
https://i.ibb.co/BwCsmKh/7053.jpg

Begging Biden. Today's America. Everyone's punching bag.

Laughing stock of the world

He was advised to wait until winter when the Taliban can't fight to withdraw but he wanted the symbolism of 9/11. Well he's getting the symbolism alright.

hater
08-13-2021, 03:27 PM
:lmao neocon hater wants to keep troops in afghanistan forever

More fake news from assraider21


I always wanted out

Sending 3,000 more troops and more bombing and trying to keep Kabul Airport != leaving :lol

Joe though Taliban were stupid enough to allow this :lmao

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 03:30 PM
More fake news from assraider21


I always wanted out

Sending 3,000 more troops and more bombing and trying to keep Kabul Airport != leaving :lol

Joe though Taliban were stupid enough to allow this :lmao
so why were you cheerleading Taliban reclaiming territory? did you want US military to stay there like we've been the last 20 years to prevent the taliban takeover?

hater
08-13-2021, 03:33 PM
so why were you cheerleading Taliban reclaiming territory? did you want US military to stay there like we've been the last 20 years to prevent the taliban takeover?

You have a weird definition of cheerleading, nancy

Do you not see Joe wanted his cake and eat it too? Do you think Taliban would like USA to keep their main international airport as bombing base that will be used against them?

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 03:36 PM
You have a weird definition of cheerleading, nancy

Do you not see Joe wanted his cake and eat it too? Do you think Taliban would like USA to keep their main international airport as bombing base that will be used against them?Do you want the 3000 troops sent to cover the exit?

Yes or no.

Winehole23
08-13-2021, 03:37 PM
9/11

Taliban Independence Day

https://media.giphy.com/media/AwcmOV28QPnck/giphy.gifkeeping Trump's promise to them:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51689443

hater
08-13-2021, 03:41 PM
Do you want the 3000 troops sent to cover the exit?

Yes or no.

If we had left we wouldnt need any troops.

FrostKing
08-13-2021, 03:41 PM
Pat Tillman died for this?

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 03:41 PM
If we had left we wouldnt need any troops.Not my question.

Do you want the 3000 troops sent to cover the exit?

Yes or no or fold.

hater
08-13-2021, 03:45 PM
Not my question.

Do you want the 3000 troops sent to cover the exit?

Yes or no or fold.

Why do we n3ed to cover our exit? Why didnt we leave correctly where the 3,000 troops are the last to leave?

SnakeBoy
08-13-2021, 03:49 PM
keeping Trump's promise to them:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51689443

Let's talk about Trump

:lol Chumpettes

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 03:50 PM
Why do we n3ed to cover our exit? Why didnt we leave correctly where the 3,000 troops are the last to leave?

Not my question.

Do you want the 3000 troops sent to cover the exit?

Yes or no or fold.

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 03:56 PM
You have a weird definition of cheerleading, nancy

Do you not see Joe wanted his cake and eat it too? Do you think Taliban would like USA to keep their main international airport as bombing base that will be used against them?

no, its a pretty straightforward definition of cheerleading


:wow

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1425814566387261441?s=19

Holy shit looks like Taliban had this planned all along. They just played NATO and the US like a fiddle :wow


This is possibly the most embarrassing moment in NATOs history and top 5 in US history.:wow


Taliban going Attila the Hun on mofos :wow


Damn

If true this is a masterful move

No wonder cities are falling like cards

https://twitter.com/bellahatunn/status/1426210308595589121?s=19

hater
08-13-2021, 03:57 PM
no, its a pretty straightforward definition of cheerleading

As I said. You have a weird definition of cheerleading, nancy

hater
08-13-2021, 03:59 PM
Not my question.

Do you want the 3000 troops sent to cover the exit?

Yes or no or fold.

Yes.

Now its my turn..why didnt we have 3,000 troops protecting our embassy beforehand?

Winehole23
08-13-2021, 04:00 PM
1426278990159908866

hater
08-13-2021, 04:01 PM
1426278990159908866

Play stupid games...

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 04:06 PM
Yes.
Again, if you're getting what you want then why the meltdown?


Now its my turn..why didnt we have 3,000 troops protecting our embassy beforehand?Are you asking me in my capacity as CENTCOM commander?

My uneducated guess is that the US did not expect the Taliban to make such rapid advances.

hater
08-13-2021, 04:09 PM
Again, then why the meltdown?

Are you asking me in my capacity as CENTCOM commander?

My uneducated guess is that the US did not expect the Taliban to make such rapid advances.

So you agree that there is something really wrong with our so called "exit plan" correct?

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 04:12 PM
So you agree that there is something really wrong with our so called "exit plan" correct?Not really. The 9/11 target date was not a great idea, but that's about it.

You're getting what you want, so why are you melting down?

SnakeBoy
08-13-2021, 04:18 PM
The 9/11 target date was not a great idea, but that's about it.


Everything is fine

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 04:21 PM
Everything is fineNo, but what do you want the US to do there now?

Step up.

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 04:30 PM
hater, in 3 acts

1) US should withdraw all troops! war bad! <3 tulsi

** US withdraws **

2) Taliban taking over :wow... US getting destroyed, worse than Saigon :wow

** US returning 3k troops to protect airport and let american nationals evacuate **

3) lol US sending more troops. war bad!

pgardn
08-13-2021, 04:44 PM
Leaving Hussein in place would have been the better option than the shitshow of Iraq since 2003, the unending shitshow.

But BigOil wanted Iraq's oil so it LIED itself into yet another geopolitical disaster.

Repugs did kill a few of OBL's group right after 9/11, but then made the huge mistake of staying. The locals, as in Viet Nam and Iraq, have always outlasted the invasions of the American predators.

The president's dad, the Big B, understood this with the punishment of Saddam and... leaving him in place by stopping short of Baghdad. But that was looked as a failure because Saddam was still considered a problem. When we intervened in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, we very much solved the problem at that time... the owners of oil. But Saddam was still considered an enemy, even after being given weapons to fight with Iran. It could be said we greatly reduced the effectiveness of each of those countries by aiding Saddam. So that could be considered a big win by some for that time and place.

Vietnam is not Iraq. Iraq is not Afghanistan, Afghanistan is not Korea, Korea is not Panama... continue. The Korean war is looked at through very different lenses depending who you are. That was a huge win for South Korea. This is not so straightforward. It not only depends on whose point of view, it also depends on what time frame we look back on it.

We have had many misadventures into the lives of others. But dont tell South Koreans, Bosnians or Yazidis in Iraq we did nothing to help them. Also, we should not forget that our misadventures in the ME and beyond that region might have greatly reduced Islamic terrorism here. We actually made this a policy theme at one time: Keep pestering them in their back yard, and they wont have the means nor the will to make trouble here. If we were to ask which country has increased strife between Sunni and Shia muslims and help continue ME conflicts we should take a bow, along with Israel. And hey we dont get missiles fired at California. We just burn it ourselves. So do we even feel the conflict...? its seems to me we sit at keyboards monitoring it, but we dont really feel it.

To me so much of this depends on who you are, how you were involved, and how you feel at THIS point in time. my blather...

pgardn
08-13-2021, 04:46 PM
hater, in 3 acts

1) US should withdraw all troops! war bad! <3 tulsi

** US withdraws **

2) Taliban taking over :wow... US getting destroyed, worse than Saigon :wow

** US returning 3k troops to protect airport and let american nationals evacuate **

3) lol US sending more troops. war bad!

Pretty much.
As long as each step makes the US look like wimps.
Now if we had Putin or Assad as our leader...

hater
08-13-2021, 04:46 PM
hater, in 3 acts

1) US should withdraw all troops! war bad! <3 tulsi

** US withdraws **

2) Taliban taking over :wow... US getting destroyed, worse than Saigon :wow

** US returning 3k troops to protect airport and let american nationals evacuate **

3) lol US sending more troops. war bad!

Fake news again

Its not a withdrawal if your sending back 3,000 troops :lmao

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 04:52 PM
Fake news again

Its not a withdrawal if your sending back 3,000 troops :lmaoIf that's your definition, you said you wanted the troops sent there so you aren't in favor of a withdrawal.

Lane picked.

hater
08-13-2021, 04:53 PM
If that's your definition, you want the troops sent there so you aren't in favor of a withdrawal.

Lane picked.

Im in favor

We are just not doing it since we are sending thousands in.

This fuckup is on Biden forever

hater
08-13-2021, 05:53 PM
God help our americans.

Taliban are now 9 miles away from Kabul

Prayingdog.com

https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1426314747696324608?s=19

hater
08-13-2021, 05:57 PM
https://twitter.com/defact0_/status/1426316787533156354?s=19

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 06:08 PM
Im in favor

We are just not doing it since we are sending thousands in.

This fuckup is on Biden foreverYou said you wanted to leave for 20 years.

Now you say leaving is a fuckup.

This is on the record forever.

DMC
08-13-2021, 06:09 PM
When someone occupies your home for 20 years and fucks your wife, raises your kids and improves their lives... then one day says 'fuck it I'm leaving", you didn't "win" just because you camped out close by and came back in afterward to declare victory.

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 06:10 PM
DMC weighs in with no opinion.:tu

hater
08-13-2021, 06:12 PM
When someone occupies your home for 20 years and fucks your wife, raises your kids and improves their lives... then one day says 'fuck it I'm leaving", you didn't "win" just because you camped out close by and came back in afterward to declare victory.

Thats a fun story to tell the US embassy workers destroying documents, computers and american flags throughout the night.

DMC
08-13-2021, 06:15 PM
Thats a fun story to tell the US embassy workers destroying documents, computers and american flags throughout the night.

Oh no, not the flags!

We were there to get OBL (supposedly). We had no beef with the Taliban until they didn't comply. 20 years of getting the shit kicked out of them for it, plus OBL was in Pakistan. There are worse countries (like NK) who treat people as bad or worse, and won't even let them leave. Maybe we should camp out in NK a while.

hater
08-13-2021, 06:16 PM
Oh no, not the flags!

Oh no the choppers!

DMC
08-13-2021, 06:18 PM
Oh no the choppers!

I can see you're worried sick over it. It's a wonder more of you folks didn't enlist.

hater
08-13-2021, 06:20 PM
I can see you're worried sick over it. It's a wonder more of you folks didn't enlist.

I can see you are not.

Its a wonder more of you folks dont scratch their ass while on the couch.

hater
08-13-2021, 06:26 PM
Oh no, not the flags!

We were there to get OBL (supposedly). We had no beef with the Taliban until they didn't comply. 20 years of getting the shit kicked out of them for it, plus OBL was in Pakistan. There are worse countries (like NK) who treat people as bad or worse, and won't even let them leave. Maybe we should camp out in NK a while.

3 trillion spent, hundreds of thousands of civilians dead and we didnt even fuck their wives :lmao

Now we are running to the choppers because they are coming.

Yeah we won alright :lmao.:lmao.:lmao

We also won in Vietnam.:lmao

DMC
08-13-2021, 06:31 PM
3 trillion spent, hundreds of thousands of civilians dead and we didnt even fuck their wives :lmao

Now we are running to the choppers because they are coming.

Yeah we won alright :lmao.:lmao.:lmao

We also won in Vietnam.:lmao
They are coming because we're leaving. They had 20 years.

"We" :lol

Thread
08-13-2021, 06:31 PM
Pat Tillman died for this?

Then Pat's parents called Bush2 everything but a white man.

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 06:32 PM
Oh, DMC is declaring victory.

I guess that should have been predicted.

hater
08-13-2021, 06:33 PM
They are coming because we're leaving. They had 20 years.

"We" :lol

Were leaving because they are.coming.

"We" :lol

DMC
08-13-2021, 06:34 PM
Were leaving because they are.coming.

"We" :lol

Sure, Medellin.

hater
08-13-2021, 06:35 PM
Sure, Medellin.

Sure, Los Gatos.

hater
08-13-2021, 06:41 PM
We definitely won. Im convinced now.

https://twitter.com/NewsInsure/status/1426327803482476546?s=19

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 06:53 PM
When someone occupies your home for 20 years and fucks your wife, raises your kids and improves their lives... then one day says 'fuck it I'm leaving", you didn't "win" just because you camped out close by and came back in afterward to declare victory.
well it was never going to be a win because we stayed too long

lets assume that going in there to knock out al qaeda was the right move. we did take care of them. it was pretty clear that the taliban was going to take back control of the country as soon as the US left. so either we were going to stay there in perpetuity, or we were going to leave and the taliban was going to take back over. would have been the case in 2005, 2010, 2015, or 2020. we were either going to re-escalate and just flatten the whole country, or we were eventually going to leave and cede power to them.

so either we should have left much earlier when al qaeda was dealt with, or at the very latest after bin laden was killed in 2011. stayin there for the last decade did absolutely nothing except delaying the inevitable. there was never going to be an exit strategy that prevented the taliban from taking back over. no matter when we pulled out, it was going to suck for the people of afghanistan. but staying there in perpetuity was never an option.

still, its clear the withdrawal was somewhat botched since they had to after the fact send back a force of 3k just to allow americans to leave. though wtf were those people doing not leaving... the withdrawal was planned and announced a while ago

GB20
08-13-2021, 07:03 PM
hater, in 3 acts

1) US should withdraw all troops! war bad! <3 tulsi

** US withdraws **

2) Taliban taking over :wow... US getting destroyed, worse than Saigon :wow

** US returning 3k troops to protect airport and let american nationals evacuate **

3) lol US sending more troops. war bad!
That is why Hater is really hard for me to understand.

SnakeBoy
08-13-2021, 07:05 PM
My wife asked me a question I don't know the answer to. Perhaps you Biden Bros can provide some insight.

Next month, on Sept 11th, will Joe Biden let the Taliban burn down the US Embassy in celebration of Taliban Independence Day?

OR

Will Joe Biden blow up the US Embassy as soon as the last American is evacuated?

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 07:09 PM
My wife asked me a question I don't know the answer to. Perhaps you Biden Bros can provide some insight.

Next month, on Sept 11th, will Joe Biden let the Taliban burn down the US Embassy in celebration of Taliban Independence Day?

OR

Will Joe Biden blow up the US Embassy as soon as the last American is evacuated?
does this kind of stuff come up in bed or at the dinner table?

SnakeBoy
08-13-2021, 07:27 PM
does this kind of stuff come up in bed or at the dinner table?

On the drive to the restaurant

ChumpDumper
08-13-2021, 07:31 PM
My wife asked me a question I don't know the answer to. Perhaps you Biden Bros can provide some insight.

Next month, on Sept 11th, will Joe Biden let the Taliban burn down the US Embassy in celebration of Taliban Independence Day?

OR

Will Joe Biden blow up the US Embassy as soon as the last American is evacuated?

You have a question pending you're currently dodging.

ElNono
08-13-2021, 08:15 PM
The possibility of US embassy burning to the ground in 9/11 would make Saigon look like a Championship Parade.

But sure. Nothing to see here :lol

Isn’t that why they allegedly sent these troops, to assist evacuation?

It’s like whine if they do whine if they don’t :lol

ElNono
08-13-2021, 08:17 PM
hater, in 3 acts

1) US should withdraw all troops! war bad! <3 tulsi

** US withdraws **

2) Taliban taking over :wow... US getting destroyed, worse than Saigon :wow

** US returning 3k troops to protect airport and let american nationals evacuate **

3) lol US sending more troops. war bad!

:lol

spurraider21
08-13-2021, 08:21 PM
Isn’t that why they allegedly sent these troops, to assist evacuation?

It’s like whine if they do whine if they don’t :lol
Haters entire epistemology starts with “US bad” and then he just goes from there

pgardn
08-13-2021, 08:31 PM
We definitely won. Im convinced now.

https://twitter.com/NewsInsure/status/1426327803482476546?s=19

Yeah its that easy.
Its a W or an L.
All of these conflicts are.

They are easy to figure as... debates.
Hater, you get an L.

pgardn
08-13-2021, 08:38 PM
My wife asked me a question I don't know the answer to. Perhaps you Biden Bros can provide some insight.

Next month, on Sept 11th, will Joe Biden let the Taliban burn down the US Embassy in celebration of Taliban Independence Day?

OR

Will Joe Biden blow up the US Embassy as soon as the last American is evacuated?

You did not need to throw the wife line in.
Just do it like old snake.
Like so:

Perhaps you Biden Bros can provide some insight.

Next month, on Sept 11th, will Joe Biden let the Taliban burn down the US Embassy in celebration of Taliban Independence Day?

OR

Will Joe Biden blow up the US Embassy as soon as the last American is evacuated?


1 OR 2

pgardn
08-13-2021, 08:59 PM
.

hater
08-13-2021, 09:45 PM
My wife asked me a question I don't know the answer to. Perhaps you Biden Bros can provide some insight.

Next month, on Sept 11th, will Joe Biden let the Taliban burn down the US Embassy in celebration of Taliban Independence Day?

OR

Will Joe Biden blow up the US Embassy as soon as the last American is evacuated?

No problem.

Our homey DMC to the rescue.

Just ask him to explain to your wife how we won the Afghan war.by fucking their wives for 20 years..then.he can explain to her how we won Vietnam :lol

hater
08-13-2021, 09:47 PM
Isn’t that why they allegedly sent these troops, to assist evacuation?

It’s like whine if they do whine if they don’t :lol

Its called a lose lose situation. It happens to.dumbasses :lol

ducks
08-13-2021, 11:03 PM
Pat Tillman died for this?

Yeah without covid to !

ElNono
08-14-2021, 12:01 AM
Its called a lose lose situation. It happens to.dumbasses :lol

It’s actually called hedging. But, you really can’t have it both ways.

hater
08-14-2021, 12:07 AM
Jesus

https://twitter.com/Redsun1947/status/1426409538253594625?s=19

hater
08-14-2021, 12:08 AM
It’s actually called hedging. But, you really can’t have it both ways.

Hedging

Thats what the loser calls it :lol

hater
08-14-2021, 12:09 AM
https://twitter.com/Ali_B_/status/1426410128912261120?s=19

Thread
08-14-2021, 12:12 AM
Jesus

https://twitter.com/Redsun1947/status/1426409538253594625?s=19

& none of those CNN video exclusives this time around where they warn us: "There will be disturbing images. Please be aware."

hater
08-14-2021, 12:13 AM
Another embarrssing moment

USA intelligence said Taliban would take Kabul in 90 days

Looks like Kabul wm be taken in 90 hours

ElNono
08-14-2021, 12:14 AM
Hedging

Thats what the loser calls it :lol

:lol that’s what you’re doing. You called it loser talk not me.

DMX7
08-14-2021, 12:16 AM
https://twitter.com/Ali_B_/status/1426410128912261120?s=19

Why doesn't anyone ever bring up Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq when the Afghanistan war wasn't even close to being finished and Bin Laden was still alive? That was the first question I asked back in 2003 when the war was being debated.

hater
08-14-2021, 12:20 AM
:lol that’s what you’re doing. You called it loser talk not me.

Are we winning or losing? You can only pick one

hater
08-14-2021, 01:29 AM
Damn

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1426370496258617346?s=19

daboom1
08-14-2021, 01:31 AM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1426421302857019393?s=19

hater
08-14-2021, 01:32 AM
https://twitter.com/MMGinvest/status/1426428887895093250?s=19

ChumpDumper
08-14-2021, 02:10 AM
https://twitter.com/MMGinvest/status/1426428887895093250?s=19Just like you wanted.

daboom1
08-14-2021, 02:31 AM
Biden is on vacation.

velik_m
08-14-2021, 04:48 AM
If anything, the rapid progress of the Talibans is proving the correctness of USA withdrawing. If there is not even the slightest resistance to this takeover, then it's unlikely there was any non-taliban future anyhow.

Winehole23
08-14-2021, 06:52 AM
If anything, the rapid progress of the Talibans is proving the correctness of USA withdrawing. If there is not even the slightest resistance to this takeover, then it's unlikely there was any non-taliban future anyhow.The Afghan government we've been propping up for nearly two decades is corrupt and unloved and something similar goes for military forces. Assuring stability in Afghanistan is essentially an argument for an indefinite US presence, ditto keeping the US safe from "terrorists and Islamic extremism."

If twenty years of US occupation and fighting have failed to create the conditions for peace and stability, how many more would be needed?

Winehole23
08-14-2021, 06:54 AM
(hater just wants to see Biden and the US burn. pure spite, principle and conscience-free.)

Winehole23
08-14-2021, 07:07 AM
foreign policy-wise, more continuity than change from Trump to Biden so far



Yes, as an American who supported the original invasion of Afghanistan 20 years ago to overturn the Taliban and end support for al Qaeda who did the 9/11 attack two decades ago, I am also frustrated that we did not get the heck out once the Taliban were overthrown. But it remains unclear why we did stay then, especially given that the W. Bush admin turned to invading Iraq. Latest I have checked it seems that it was Rumsfeld who played the key role in deciding that that the US stay in Afghanistan, even as that admin basically gave up on getting bin Laden.

So this should not be a partisan issue in the US. Pres.Biden long ago, including as Obama’s VP, led opposition to increasing efforts in Afghanistan. He accurately understood that this was an ultimately bad situation to get more deeply involved in, And he then made it clear he thought we should be getting out.

That was the position of Biden’s predecessor, Trump, who also called for the US leaving Afghanistan. He steadily reduced the US troop presence, and negotiated a final full withdrawal. But variouhis advisors held him back from effectuating the final withdrawal, leaving that to his successor. But what was left was not sustainable.

There are other areas where Biden seems to be following Trump policies. These include his reluctance to rejoin the JCPOA Iranian nuclear deal, which he promised to do, and he should have done. But now there is a new hardline president in Iran in reaction to just this, the failure of Biden to rejoin the deal. This is simply awful.

The list is long, and I frankly do not get why Biden has held back on so much of this. So, he has yet to remove almost any of the stupid garbage Trump tariffs. He has if anything made Trump’s prohibition of receiving refugees from abroad harder. And he is all in on Trump’s Afghanistan policy, which looks now to be a total humanitarian disaster. But the GOP is already falsely claiming the disaster will all be Biden’s fault, not Trump’s.

https://econospeak.blogspot.com/2021/08/biden-follows-trump-on-foreign-policy.html

hater
08-14-2021, 08:57 AM
(hater is a meanie :cry :cry.)

hater
08-14-2021, 09:16 AM
https://twitter.com/WorldBreakingN9/status/1426545267906592772?s=19

Frenchfred
08-14-2021, 09:34 AM
Why doesn't anyone ever bring up Bush's decision to go to war in Iraq when the Afghanistan war wasn't even close to being finished and Bin Laden was still alive? That was the first question I asked back in 2003 when the war was being debated.

Republicans have f.cked up the entire the region for decades, invading countries, supporting coups, putting embargos on countries...

Thread
08-14-2021, 09:38 AM
(hater just wants to see Biden and the US burn. pure spite, principle and conscience-free.)

You wanted likewise the moment Trump kicked Clinton's ass. You've nary room, Winester. Nary.

Winehole23
08-14-2021, 09:41 AM
This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

Thread
08-14-2021, 09:42 AM
Republicans have f.cked up the entire the region for decades, invading countries, supporting coups, putting embargos on countries...

Hussein was in there for a healthy portion of that time, buster brown. When you fuck with countries, or, even fellow Americans like we've done, then turn your back and go on vacation thinking they ain't gonna take vengeance, you're tragically mistaken.

Hell, our own Timothy McVeigh taught that.

Thread
08-14-2021, 09:42 AM
This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).



Let us proceed...

Millennial_Messiah
08-14-2021, 10:11 AM
Mother fucker Biden's fuck up. And he'd better airlift that embassy, toot sweet, Winester. They'll be draggin' 'em thru the streets like they did that one fellow that Hillary Clinton threw to the lions.

Nah, I hope he is stupid enough like Shillary and leaves them there and they get killed so Biden's sinking approval rating falls like a rock far below Trump's worst.

Millennial_Messiah
08-14-2021, 10:12 AM
Hussein was in there for a healthy portion of that time, buster brown. When you fuck with countries, or, even fellow Americans like we've done, then turn your back and go on vacation thinking they ain't gonna take vengeance, you're tragically mistaken.

Hell, our own Timothy McVeigh taught that.
McVeigh had the right idea, but the wrong execution. Should have done what he did in Quantico or D.C., not OKC......

Thread
08-14-2021, 10:21 AM
McVeigh had the right idea, but the wrong execution. Should have done what he did in Quantico or D.C., not OKC......

The offending F.B.I. & ATF were run to ground in OKC not D.C..

diego
08-14-2021, 10:29 AM
The Afghan government we've been propping up for nearly two decades is corrupt and unloved and something similar goes for military forces. Assuring stability in Afghanistan is essentially an argument for an indefinite US presence, ditto keeping the US safe from "terrorists and Islamic extremism."

If twenty years of US occupation and fighting have failed to create the conditions for peace and stability, how many more would be needed?

Sorry but this is absurd thinking, what instability and violence was there on Afghanistan in the 90s? Sure the Taliban are fundamentalist dicks, but why would occupation and fighting from anyone create peace and stability? Let alone the US with it's track record??!

The us should have never gone there, Afghanistan didn't ever so anything to the US, 911 was a bunch of saudis the fact they took refuge in the afghani mountains NEVER justified the invasion of aghanistan and all of the needless innocents murdered to appease US broken ego, peace and stability never had anything to do with it

diego
08-14-2021, 10:39 AM
When someone occupies your home for 20 years and fucks your wife, raises your kids and improves their lives... then one day says 'fuck it I'm leaving", you didn't "win" just because you camped out close by and came back in afterward to declare victory.

How did they improve their kids lives, pray tell???

Of course you have no consideration for the thousands of children killed, wounded, raped, with mental health issues from living through twenty years of war (or the thousands that will die from mines, ordinance, contaminated water and food supply for the next 50 years)

Yeah you really won you fucking piece of shit, you won another 100 years of jihad from the middle east and disgust from the rest of the world, fuck you

Winehole23
08-14-2021, 10:41 AM
Sorry but this is absurd thinking, what instability and violence was there on Afghanistan in the 90s? Sure the Taliban are fundamentalist dicks, but why would occupation and fighting from anyone create peace and stability? Let alone the US with it's track record??!

The us should have never gone there, Afghanistan didn't ever so anything to the US, 911 was a bunch of saudis the fact they took refuge in the afghani mountains NEVER justified the invasion of aghanistan and all of the needless innocents murdered to appease US broken ego, peace and stability never had anything to do with itI agree with all of that and objected to going to war there for pretty much the same reasons in 2001.

GB20
08-14-2021, 10:42 AM
Joe Biden is going to gain a few million new voters for taking the troops out. The American people are fucking tired for being in Afag for 20 plus years.

Frenchfred
08-14-2021, 10:46 AM
Sorry but this is absurd thinking, what instability and violence was there on Afghanistan in the 90s? Sure the Taliban are fundamentalist dicks, but why would occupation and fighting from anyone create peace and stability? Let alone the US with it's track record??!

The us should have never gone there, Afghanistan didn't ever so anything to the US, 911 was a bunch of saudis the fact they took refuge in the afghani mountains NEVER justified the invasion of aghanistan and all of the needless innocents murdered to appease US broken ego, peace and stability never had anything to do with it

exactly. It's like Iran, they are complaining but were at the origin of the islamic revolution.

pgardn
08-14-2021, 10:53 AM
How did they improve their kids lives, pray tell???

Of course you have no consideration for the thousands of children killed, wounded, raped, with mental health issues from living through twenty years of war (or the thousands that will die from mines, ordinance, contaminated water and food supply for the next 50 years)

Yeah you really won you fucking piece of shit, you won another 100 years of jihad from the middle east and disgust from the rest of the world, fuck you

Educated a good number of girls and women who probably got the hell out already or are dead.
By no means justifies the absurdity of just getting Bin Laden and getting the hell out after some missiles in the face of the Taliban.
We might have some very good history of the conflict so we learn what a shit show this was because we have more people who can actually communicate and write about what happened. They can at least tell us what part of the process actually did work because the whole was going to be a loser after we decided the country should be... I dont know what, but certainly not any type of democracy.

Millennial_Messiah
08-14-2021, 11:09 AM
The offending F.B.I. & ATF were run to ground in OKC not D.C..

I still hate the US deep state over Ruby Ridge... that was an innocent family and the murderous US government killed innocent US Citizen children. ...now the David Koresh thing was justified, Koresh was a fucking weirdo and his compound was full of cucks and harem mates, all part of a disgusting violent cult that needed to be destroyed.

I just hope in the next year or so the U.S. gets delivered a few foreign nukes on U.S. soil, and deservedly so... the U.S. has become pure evil under the establishment left and deep state, freedom has been vanquished, and the stars and stripes might as well be toilet paper at this point. The U.S. deserves to be handed its ass, particularly on the east and left coast, even if it means a few million sacrificial lambs as casualties...

Thread
08-14-2021, 11:24 AM
I still hate the US deep state over Ruby Ridge... that was an innocent family and the murderous US government killed innocent US Citizen children.

Yep, shot that boy in the back and walked away from him skinnin' & grinnin' thinkin' they was free & clear. No.

Winehole23
08-14-2021, 11:35 AM
I still hate the US deep state over Ruby Ridge... that was an innocent family and the murderous US government killed innocent US Citizen children. ...now the David Koresh thing was justified, Koresh was a fucking weirdo and his compound was full of cucks and harem mates, all part of a disgusting violent cult that needed to be destroyed.

I just hope in the next year or so the U.S. gets delivered a few foreign nukes on U.S. soil, and deservedly so... the U.S. has become pure evil under the establishment left and deep state, freedom has been vanquished, and the stars and stripes might as well be toilet paper at this point. The U.S. deserves to be handed its ass, particularly on the east and left coast, even if it means a few million sacrificial lambs as casualties...^^^fashy eliminationist scum

hope they land on you

Spurs Homer
08-14-2021, 11:55 AM
I still hate the US deep state over Ruby Ridge... that was an innocent family and the murderous US government killed innocent US Citizen children. ...now the David Koresh thing was justified, Koresh was a fucking weirdo and his compound was full of cucks and harem mates, all part of a disgusting violent cult that needed to be destroyed.

I just hope in the next year or so the U.S. gets delivered a few foreign nukes on U.S. soil, and deservedly so... the U.S. has become pure evil under the establishment left and deep state, freedom has been vanquished, and the stars and stripes might as well be toilet paper at this point. The U.S. deserves to be handed its ass, particularly on the east and left coast, even if it means a few million sacrificial lambs as casualties...


Did you see the newest census?

WHITES - down to 57%

from mid 60ish percent


tick tock motherfucking racist piece of shit


pretty soon

you will know what is like to be in the minority and the things you did to non-white innocent people will be done to you and your evil brethren



hahahahahahahaha!

Millennial_Messiah
08-14-2021, 11:58 AM
Yep, shot that boy in the back and walked away from him skinnin' & grinnin' thinkin' they was free & clear. No.

hope the US pays dearly & gravely for it. Trump pissed me off by breaking his promise to drain the swamp and not waterboarding and quartering deep state officials responsible for civilian freedom infringement. And then being a pussy not taking over the country after the great fraud happened last november, just letting it happen at his expense. We need a stronger leader than Trump, one who will keep the promises he preaches. He was much more talk than substance, unfortunately.


Did you see the newest census?

WHITES - down to 57%

from mid 60ish percent


tick tock motherfucking racist piece of shit


pretty soon

you will know what is like to be in the minority and the things you did to non-white innocent people will be done to you and your evil brethren



hahahahahahahaha!

I'd gladly move to a better country where my people reign supreme, not infested by illegal invasive usurping filth.

^^^fashy eliminationist scum

hope they land on you
I'll be nowhere near the infested-ass coasts when they land.

ElNono
08-14-2021, 12:05 PM
Are we winning or losing? You can only pick one

Define ‘win’ in Afghanistan? Personally I didn’t want Cheney to go there at all from the get go.

When you’ve been there for 20 years and effected no change, it’s an L no matter how you want to spin it.

Up to Hollywood now to try to rescue this as some epic W with Rambo 5, 6 and 7, tbh…

Frenchfred
08-14-2021, 12:05 PM
hope the US pays dearly & gravely for it. Trump pissed me off by breaking his promise to drain the swamp and not waterboarding and quartering deep state officials responsible for civilian freedom infringement. And then being a pussy not taking over the country after the great fraud happened last november, just letting it happen at his expense. We need a stronger leader than Trump, one who will keep the promises he preaches. He was much more talk than substance, unfortunately.




I'd gladly move to a better country where my people reign supreme, not infested by illegal invasive usurping filth.

I'll be nowhere near the infested-ass coasts when they land.

another one believing the big lie. What you want is a fascist leader who takes over not caring about what the voters want. You should move to a dictatorship

hater
08-14-2021, 12:24 PM
Define ‘win’ in Afghanistan? Personally I didn’t want Cheney to go there at all from the get go.

When you’ve been there for 20 years and effected no change, it’s an L no matter how you want to spin it.

Up to Hollywood now to try to rescue this as some epic W with Rambo 5, 6 and 7, tbh…

Yes or no. Are we winning in Afghanistan?

Winehole23
08-14-2021, 12:25 PM
hater can't read

ElNono
08-14-2021, 12:27 PM
Yes or no. Are we winning in Afghanistan?

Too vague a question. See my post above. As I mentioned there, in genera terms it’s a L, unless you want to define ‘win’ in some specific terms.

hater
08-14-2021, 12:28 PM
https://twitter.com/EenaRuffini/status/1426592566519160833?s=19

Winnning

Thread
08-14-2021, 12:31 PM
https://twitter.com/EenaRuffini/status/1426592566519160833?s=19

Winnning

They'd better hurry, otherwise they're gonna get what William Wallace got at the end of that movie with Mel Gibson.

Where Biden? On holiday.

Thread
08-14-2021, 12:32 PM
Too vague a question. See my post above. As I mentioned there, in genera terms it’s a L, unless you want to define ‘win’ in some specific terms.

I thought you walked tall, El, like Pusser, Buford T. But now you're crawlin', that belly a draggin'.

Thread
08-14-2021, 12:33 PM
another one believing the big lie. What you want is a fascist leader who takes over not caring about what the voters want. You should move to a dictatorship

Nazi's!!!

ElNono
08-14-2021, 12:33 PM
I thought you walked tall, El, like Pusser, Buford T. But now you're crawlin', that belly a draggin'.

I mean, I answered the question straight and then I was asked the same question again. So either there’s some definition of ‘winning’ I’m missing out on, or the listener doesn’t want to hear my answer..

Thread
08-14-2021, 12:38 PM
I mean, I answered the question straight and then I was asked the same question again. So either there’s some definition of ‘winning’ I’m missing out on, or the listener doesn’t want to hear my answer..

Apology accepted.

SnakeBoy
08-14-2021, 12:40 PM
US launching UAE based airstrikes against Taliban just outside of Kabul. Not enough fuel to do more than drop payload and head back to UAE. Biden admin desperate.

Think I'm going to watch Dunkirk again. Hopefully this turns out that well.

ChumpDumper
08-14-2021, 12:43 PM
US launching UAE based airstrikes against Taliban just outside of Kabul. Not enough fuel to do more than drop payload and head back to UAE. Biden admin desperate.

Think I'm going to watch Dunkirk again. Hopefully this turns out that well.

What do you want the US to do in Afghanistan now?

Step up.

Winehole23
08-14-2021, 12:43 PM
1426208061123928072

Thread
08-14-2021, 12:46 PM
1426208061123928072

In for penny.
In for pound.

SnakeBoy
08-14-2021, 12:54 PM
1426208061123928072

Dude is flailing about on twitter

Everything is not fine

SnakeBoy
08-14-2021, 01:01 PM
Biden sending urgent plea to Taliban

"Please don't Jimmy Carter me"

spurraider21
08-14-2021, 01:01 PM
What do you want the US to do in Afghanistan now?

Step up.
:lol thinking snakeboy cares about anything beside shitposting