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playblair
08-15-2021, 08:23 PM
all of u were bashing him lead by the charge of non college basketball watcher timvp.........let this be a lesson to never parot what someone else says & watch the games for yourself.......... also its time to give playblair props for correctly telling you both tre jones/josh primo were terrific picks
playblair is the best talent scout on spurstalk because he does not judge by youtube highlights/breakdowns & mock draft write ups he actually watches full games...........

LittleCriminal
08-15-2021, 08:36 PM
According to my sauces.. Heb wanted Primo picked early in this year's draft or else they'd pull sponsorship from the organization.

HankChinaski
08-15-2021, 08:43 PM
https://c.tenor.com/zMgVyjxuEq4AAAAC/sorry-south-park.gif

HankChinaski
08-15-2021, 08:45 PM
I actually liked the pick, just questioned why at 12 and not traded back on draft night. But some light was shed on that an the pick made some sense afterwards.

playblair
08-15-2021, 09:04 PM
I actually liked the pick, just questioned why at 12 and not traded back on draft night. But some light was shed on that an the pick made some sense afterwards.
explain?

ismael-robert
08-15-2021, 09:17 PM
He's referring to the multiple posts about teams wanting to pick him in first so he would've been gone

tim_duncan_fan
08-15-2021, 09:34 PM
lo siento

John B
08-15-2021, 11:08 PM
https://c.tenor.com/zMgVyjxuEq4AAAAC/sorry-south-park.gif

:rollin:rollin

John B
08-15-2021, 11:26 PM
It’s too early to apologize until the dust settles. The make-up of the roster. What pieces will still be added? I’m sure Primo is a big part, may not be immediate. But there’s a big plan for him drafted at 12. Likewise picking Vassell, a potential 3 and D specialist at 11. One thing the Spurs have on those championship years, besides Timmy of course, was a defensive catalyst, a Ninja, Bruce, Kawhi. Players are being positioned, not as obvious to the unsophisticated. And I’m obviously one, with the occasional outburst. I still believe that we have the best managed organization, ahead of everyone, playing chess while others play checkers. They know what they’re doing picking Primo.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
08-15-2021, 11:52 PM
we staaaaaaaacked

Mr. Body
08-16-2021, 12:20 AM
One thing I think we need to realize is that Josh Primo wasn't a pick for the next three years. He's not even a pick for the next five years. In three years, he may be doing the same thing Duarte is doing for the Pacers, who selected immediately after the Spurs. In five years, Primo will be 23 years old and Duarte (for example) will be 29 years old and in his prime.

Josh Primo was a pick for the next ten years. Whether he pans out, lasts that long, etc., is up to time to determine, but in ten years this kid will be only 28 years old.

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-16-2021, 07:56 AM
As someone pointed out in another thread, the Spurs could lose this kid by the time he’s ready to be truly impactful at the NBA level. And if our strategy is being so weak that we garner a top pick next draft, then I think it’s mission accomplished.

But he looked good in this last game.

Dejounte
08-16-2021, 08:00 AM
As someone pointed out in another thread, the Spurs could lose this kid by the time he’s ready to be truly impactful at the NBA level. And if our strategy is being so weak that we garner a top pick next draft, then I think it’s mission accomplished.

But he looked good in this last game.

so if the Spurs drafted a player who was a star from day 1, the Spurs would lose them anyway. What the fuck is even this logic?

Dex
08-16-2021, 08:56 AM
I'll admit he looks better than I was expecting, but let's not forget that Bryn Forbes looked like Steph Jordan in summer league and we all saw how that turned out.

Obviously he is a very young talent and has lots of room to grow, but in the eternal words of The Wolf...let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet.

Still doesn't fix the fact that we have a logjam at the guard position that just seems to be getting worse unless Pop plans to play microball all season.

BacktoBasics
08-16-2021, 09:18 AM
Give me at least a year maybe two.

exstatic
08-16-2021, 09:26 AM
Yeah, people think we don’t need Rookies sent Austin any more, but he needs two things immediately, work on his body/frame, and work on his handles. That’s best accomplished in Austin. If he were an elite defender, he could get PT in SA like Kawhi did, by standing in the corner on offense, and hounding their best player on the other end, but I don’t see that yet, only glimpses, like his offense.

J_Paco
08-16-2021, 10:19 AM
I'll admit he looks better than I was expecting, but let's not forget that Bryn Forbes looked like Steph Jordan in summer league and we all saw how that turned out.

Obviously he is a very young talent and has lots of room to grow, but in the eternal words of The Wolf...let's not start sucking each other's dicks quite yet.

Still doesn't fix the fact that we have a logjam at the guard position that just seems to be getting worse unless Pop plans to play microball all season.

Dex, did you really just compare a 23 - year old, undrafted player - playing for his livelihood - to a 18 - year old, lottery pick oozing with potential?

Potential on both ends which Forbes has never shown.

And clearly, they won't play too much "micro ball" with 4 centers and 4 PF's (not including Keldon) on the roster.

Dex
08-16-2021, 10:32 AM
Dex, did you really just compare a 23 - year old, undrafted player - playing for his livelihood - to a 18 - year old, lottery pick oozing with potential?

Potential on both ends which Forbes has never shown.

And clearly, they won't play too much "micro ball" with 4 centers and 4 PF's (not including Keldon) on the roster.

Hey, all I'm saying is Bryn Forbes put up better numbers in Summer League.

I know Primo is learning on the job...but let's not get too crazy about early results. Walker and White also looked great in Summer League, and Tim Duncan sucked in Summer League, so maybe Summer League isn't the best projection to go by here.

And if we aren't playing microball, then who all is getting minutes this season between Murray, White, Walker, Jones, Forbes, and Primo?

Again, the numbers just don't work out. You have 96 minutes a game to split between the two guard spots, and 6 guys to choose from. I think it's pretty obvious Primo will be spending a LOT of time in Austin just because we have too many guards on the roster right now. We spent the 12th pick on a guy we won't even see play until next year at best, and this is WITHOUT the expectation of contending.

Dejounte
08-16-2021, 10:39 AM
We have no problem going crazy about early results from players the Spurs didn’t draft. Just saying.

itzsoweezee
08-16-2021, 10:46 AM
so if the Spurs drafted a player who was a star from day 1, the Spurs would lose them anyway. What the fuck is even this logic?

That’s not how rookie contracts/extensions work. See eg, luka’s extension, AD’s first extension, Zion’s coming extension. Rookies drafted in the first round are basically stuck on the team that drafted them unless they’re willing to risk a huge amount of money.

From the team’s perspective, it is definitely better when young players reach a high level of play early in their career.

Dejounte
08-16-2021, 11:04 AM
That’s not how rookie contracts/extensions work. See eg, luka’s extension, AD’s first extension, Zion’s coming extension. Rookies drafted in the first round are basically stuck on the team that drafted them unless they’re willing to risk a huge amount of money.

From the team’s perspective, it is definitely better when young players reach a high level of play early in their career.

Yes, I agree with your first paragraph hence why I questioned Ed’s logic.

elaborate more on your second paragraph.

KobesAchilles
08-16-2021, 11:14 AM
I apologize for Brian Wrong drafting this bum. I will wait the two years (and then the next 2 years when slurpers say give him another 2 years) so catch me in 2025 when I’m proven right :lol

baseline bum
08-16-2021, 11:36 AM
Are these games broadcast? Interested in seeing what Vassell looks like and if Samanic is destined to be a bust.

SPURt
08-16-2021, 12:44 PM
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Haha! We can close the thread after this post

Atl Spur
08-16-2021, 01:29 PM
Really? Get over to the penthouse......now!��

duncan2k5
08-16-2021, 02:40 PM
Y do we need to apologize? What has he done so far? Pop won't even play the guy

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-16-2021, 02:46 PM
so if the Spurs drafted a player who was a star from day 1, the Spurs would lose them anyway. What the fuck is even this logic?

At least you had that player's contribution for those three years, rather than three years of nothing, only to have another team reap the benefit. That's the argument.

We'll see...maybe he'll mature faster than his age and experience might suggest.

I liked what I saw, but summer league is summer league. He outplayed Vassell, so that's something comparative I suppose.

Dejounte
08-16-2021, 03:07 PM
At least you had that player's contribution for those three years, rather than three years of nothing, only to have another team reap the benefit. That's the argument.

We'll see...maybe he'll mature faster than his age and experience might suggest.

I liked what I saw, but summer league is summer league. He outplayed Vassell, so that's something comparative I suppose.

My point is that it’s a sad outlook to believe any player (good or bad) will leave any way in three years. The Spurs have been successful in keeping their players (at least the ones they want) like Murray, White, Poeltl. I think it’s a little too cynical to believe that any player will just up and leave.

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-16-2021, 03:25 PM
My point is that it’s a sad outlook to believe any player (good or bad) will leave any way in three years. The Spurs have been successful in keeping their players (at least the ones they want) like Murray, White, Poeltl. I think it’s a little too cynical to believe that any player will just up and leave.

I'm hopeful we keep all the young core together, and it would be great if Primo is part of that group that returns the Spurs to relevance.

GreekSpursfan
08-16-2021, 03:38 PM
Can't apologize about unfinished products. He has some tools but others develop their body and skills and others turn to shit. Neither side has to apologize or sing praises about anything

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-16-2021, 03:43 PM
Can't apologize about unfinished products. He has some tools but others develop their body and skills and others turn to shit. Neither side has to apologize or sing praises about anything

playblair likes to take every opportunity to pat himself on the back. He had to act now, in the event we never see Primo do anything of significance again this year.

Dejounte
08-16-2021, 03:45 PM
Thread was made by an obvious troll and it’s threads like this that cause divide on this forum when there doesn’t need to be. Yes, you have thoughts and opinions from either side about specific players and in a perfect world, no one gave a shit what other people think. But here we are.

daslicer
08-16-2021, 03:45 PM
Y do we need to apologize? What has he done so far? Pop won't even play the guy

The saying a broke clock is right at least twice a day does apply to you since this is the first time I actually agree with your comments.

GreekSpursfan
08-16-2021, 03:53 PM
The saying a broke clock is right at least twice a day does apply to you since this is the first time I actually agree with your comments.

I actually have a feeling Primo will play whether Pop is here or not. We're gonna be losing a lot and we're gonna have plenty of garbage time at our disposal tbh

Chomag
08-16-2021, 04:43 PM
I'll see you in about 2 years but...

I'll never ever ever eveeeerrrrr apologize about Forbes!!

exstatic
08-16-2021, 04:49 PM
Are these games broadcast? Interested in seeing what Vassell looks like and if Samanic is destined to be a bust.

They’ve been on NBAtv the last two games. Sammich isn’t in Vegas. Working out in SA. Final game is at halftime right now.

Dex
08-16-2021, 07:15 PM
I take it back. Dude has missed more games than Derrick White already

Russ
08-16-2021, 07:58 PM
My point is that it’s a sad outlook to believe any player (good or bad) will leave any way in three years. The Spurs have been successful in keeping their players (at least the ones they want) like Murray, White, Poeltl. I think it’s a little too cynical to believe that any player will just up and leave.

Primo went from a cosmopolitan city like Toronto to a shithole like Tuscaloosa Alabama. Voluntarily.

I think he'll stay in SA if it looks like a decent situation on other fronts.

BackHome
08-16-2021, 08:44 PM
As someone pointed out in another thread, the Spurs could lose this kid by the time he’s ready to be truly impactful at the NBA level. And if our strategy is being so weak that we garner a top pick next draft, then I think it’s mission accomplished.

But he looked good in this last game.

Ed We Tanking - And if you really want him to leave then keep picking draft picks 11 - 20 and being a sub 500 team and you will see how fast he leaves. Not many competitive players want to play with no chance of ever ringing. So pray we tank and we got a top 3 pick that he can bound with and create some winning basketball

BackHome
08-16-2021, 09:34 PM
As someone pointed out in another thread, the Spurs could lose this kid by the time he’s ready to be truly impactful at the NBA level. And if our strategy is being so weak that we garner a top pick next draft, then I think it’s mission accomplished.

But he looked good in this last game.

Ed We Tanking - And if you really want him to leave then keep picking draft picks 11 - 20 and being a sub 500 team and you will see how fast he leaves. Not many competitive players want to play with no chance of ever ringing. So pray we rank and we got a top 3 pick that he can bound with and create some winning basketball

duncan2k5
08-17-2021, 05:24 AM
I actually have a feeling Primo will play whether Pop is here or not. We're gonna be losing a lot and we're gonna have plenty of garbage time at our disposal tbh

We lost a lot last 2 years and he has had Luka in the doghouse 90% of the time... Even after good games

GreekSpursfan
08-17-2021, 01:47 PM
We lost a lot last 2 years and he has had Luka in the doghouse 90% of the time... Even after good games

Luka is nowhere near Primo lvl and this is the most losing we're gonna see for some time now.

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-17-2021, 02:58 PM
Ed We Tanking - And if you really want him to leave then keep picking draft picks 11 - 20 and being a sub 500 team and you will see how fast he leaves. Not many competitive players want to play with no chance of ever ringing. So pray we tank and we got a top 3 pick that he can bound with and create some winning basketball

I'm with you. No small market team, that I can think of anyway, has been able to win without a top draft pick or two to build around. San Antonio is not going to be the choice of any superstar free agent unless there's already something special happening here. It's really the draft or bust for the small market teams.

Dejounte
08-17-2021, 03:01 PM
I'm with you. No small market team, that I can think of anyway, has been able to win without a top draft pick or two to build around. San Antonio is not going to be the choice of any superstar free agent unless there's already something special happening here. It's really the draft or bust for the small market teams.

Bucks

Ed Helicopter Jones
08-17-2021, 03:20 PM
Bucks

I thought about the Bucks, Giannis was still homegrown, albeit with a later pick. We also had that with Kawhi. I probably could have phrased my post better.

I don't see the Spurs, or any small market team, attracting anyone with superstar talent until said small market team is competing deep into the playoffs on an annual basis. Until we're very relevant, no significant FA will come here. Even when we were good, most FAs didn't choose San Antonio...certainly no superstar level players. LMA was really the only one, and it's arguable as to whether he'd fit the superstar category. He sure seemed to be on the fringe of that status in Portland.

playblair
08-17-2021, 03:31 PM
I thought about the Bucks, Giannis was still homegrown, albeit with a later pick. We also had that with Kawhi. I probably could have phrased my post better.

I don't see the Spurs, or any small market team, attracting anyone with superstar talent until said small market team is competing deep into the playoffs on an annual basis. Until we're very relevant, no significant FA will come here. Even when we were good, most FAs didn't choose San Antonio...certainly no superstar level players. LMA was really the only one, and it's arguable as to whether he'd fit the superstar category. He sure seemed to be on the fringe of that status in Portland.
spurs could become a premiere free agent destination with a very simple 1 hour relocation to austin

BackHome
08-17-2021, 05:37 PM
Shit get stuck in traffic two hours to get there and two hours to get home I don’t think so. Lol

dbestpro
08-17-2021, 06:02 PM
Luka is nowhere near Primo lvl and this is the most losing we're gonna see for some time now.

Lol. Primo the savior. You didn't even know who he was a couple of months ago. Too many of you taking wishful thinking to the next level.

BackHome
08-17-2021, 09:05 PM
Yeah not putting all my eggs in the Primo basket but I think if the kid can stay healthy he could be a starter on a playoff type team. One thing mentioned is that he is so young and his bone structure has not yet finished growing so need to be careful on wear and tear on body. But hey it’s the Spurs so I don’t see him getting a lot of playing time it’s going to be sink or swim for Murray, Walker, Keldon, White -

As well as it should I want to see these players get 30 minutes a game every game to see what we really got - No hiding now it’s time to move up and take the reins youngsters.

paperboy77
08-17-2021, 09:19 PM
Man fuck that decision to pick Primo 12th. Are we saying there was NO ONE better than Primo to pick? Bullllll shit!

MannyIsGod
08-17-2021, 09:27 PM
I thought about the Bucks, Giannis was still homegrown, albeit with a later pick. We also had that with Kawhi. I probably could have phrased my post better.

I don't see the Spurs, or any small market team, attracting anyone with superstar talent until said small market team is competing deep into the playoffs on an annual basis. Until we're very relevant, no significant FA will come here. Even when we were good, most FAs didn't choose San Antonio...certainly no superstar level players. LMA was really the only one, and it's arguable as to whether he'd fit the superstar category. He sure seemed to be on the fringe of that status in Portland.

I mean Detroit did it too.

BackHome
08-18-2021, 01:58 PM
How many years did it take the Bucks?

Dejounte
08-18-2021, 03:43 PM
How many years did it take the Bucks?

As many years as it took LeBron to win his first.

Flawless
08-18-2021, 03:59 PM
spurs could become a premiere free agent destination with a very simple 1 hour relocation to austin
Spurs don't want to downgrade cities

GreekSpursfan
08-18-2021, 04:56 PM
Lol. Primo the savior. You didn't even know who he was a couple of months ago. Too many of you taking wishful thinking to the next level.

Did i say he's some kind of savior, next time read more carefully. I said he's in a better bball lvl than Luka which isn't saying much since i don't think Luka is any good tbh.

BackHome
08-18-2021, 07:28 PM
As many years as it took LeBron to win his first.

lol 50 years.

BD24
08-18-2021, 11:51 PM
Playblair already victory lapping :lol

im sure you don’t want anyone to bring up all your shit takes over the years huh? If you throw enough shit at the wall something is bound to stick

playblair
08-19-2021, 12:18 AM
Playblair already victory lapping :lol

im sure you don’t want anyone to bring up all your shit takes over the years huh? If you throw enough shit at the wall something is bound to stick
what shit takes i have been right about every spurs pick dating back to the james anderson pick

superbigtime
08-19-2021, 12:22 PM
no

exstatic
08-19-2021, 12:36 PM
Playblair already victory lapping :lol

im sure you don’t want anyone to bring up all your shit takes over the years huh? If you throw enough shit at the wall something is bound to stick

Does he have any other kind of take? He’s a ducks level poster…