2021-22 Starting Lineup Opening Night [Archive]

KingKev

08-20-2021, 02:32 PM

For me it has to be:

DJ
White
McLovin
Keldon
Jak

Thad as the only other legitimate player who could potentially start. The next 10+ players are all basically even in terms of likelihood of having a material role.

That starting lineup is a sub 20 win team unless DJ/White really get to the next level in short order.

Robz4000

08-20-2021, 02:34 PM

It'll be Murray, Forms, McDipshit, Keldon, and Poeltl tbh.

FvckMavs

08-20-2021, 02:35 PM

HankChinaski

08-20-2021, 03:03 PM

You are going to see like a ton of starting line upsthrough out the first half of the season this year. Pop is going to go full on Experimental Mad Scientist.

Murray/White
?
?
?
?
Poeltl

With this roster it feels like this kind of year more than every.

stnick2261

08-20-2021, 03:14 PM

I'm hoping to see a starting lineup of:

Dejounte Murray
Derrick White
Keldon Johnson
Luka Samanic
Jakob Poeltl

(As long as Murray and Samanic start taking and making 3s for spacing). I think it would be the best defensive lineup in the league.

If they start winning too much, I could see this lineup going in to keep the tank going:

Tre Jones
Bryn Forbes
Lonnie Walker IV
Doug McDermott
???

That includes 3 of the 7 worst defensive players in the league. Throw those guys in together in the 2nd and 4th quarters and we'd get to see how good our future is while still getting a top draft pick.

Chinook

08-20-2021, 03:19 PM

Think it should be:

White, Murray
Walker, Forbes
Vassell, McDermott
Young, Johnson
Poeltl, Eubnaks

Think it will be:

Murray, White
Forbes, Vassell
Walker, McDermott
Johnson, Young
Poeltl, Eubanks

or

Murray, Jones
White, Forbes
Walker, McDermott
Johnson, Young
Poeltl, Eubanks

With Jones basically only being there for foul trouble and Pop running a nine-man rotation.

ismael-robert

08-20-2021, 03:42 PM

Pointless...as they always do they'll put something random that makes whole forum n all their "analysis " wrong

JH22

08-20-2021, 04:04 PM

PG- Dejounte Murray / Tre Jones
SG- Derrick White / Lonnie Walker / Bryn Forbes
SF- Keldon Johnson / Doug McDermott / Devin Vassell
PF- Thad Young / Luka Samanic
C- Jakob Poeltl / Drew Eubanks

C- Zach Collins
SG- Joshua Primo
SF- Chandler Hutchison
PF- Al-Farouq Aminu

Jsmythe

08-20-2021, 04:56 PM

Just saw an article on ESPN where Caesar's Sportsbook listed the predicted number of wins for each team in 2021-2022, with the Spurs at 29.5 (tied for 5th worst in the league).

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32056930/brooklyn-nets-open-nba-highest-season-win-total

timvp

08-20-2021, 05:14 PM

playblair

08-20-2021, 05:21 PM

simmons
primo
keldon
thad
aussie

spurraider21

08-20-2021, 05:23 PM

simmons
primo
keldon
thad
aussie
thad would be an essential part of any simmons trade tbh

exstatic

08-20-2021, 05:23 PM

playblair

08-20-2021, 05:41 PM

thad would be an essential part of any simmons trade tbh
simmons
primo
vassell
keldon
aussie

PoppaP

08-20-2021, 07:39 PM

PG:Murray SG:White SF:Keldon PF:Samanic C:YaK … I was tempted to put Lonnie at the 2 for his 3pt shooting and scoring but I had to go with white bcuz he is a stabilizing 2 way force that the starters will need ! Luka has shown enough in limited minutes to get the nod over the over power forward options on the team him and poetle at 6’11 and 7’0 in the paint would be an intriguing offensive and defensive duo… Murray and white are the best defensive guard tandem in the league and keldon slides down to a more natural small forward spot he’s our do it all heart and soul of the team !

RC_Drunkford

08-20-2021, 08:39 PM

ideal scenario:

White
Keldon
McDermott
Simmons
Poeltl

What Pop would do as presently constructed:

Murray
White
Keldon
McDermott
Poeltl

What I'd like to see (if we don't get Simmons):

Murray
Walker
Keldon
Samanic
Poeltl

KingKev

08-22-2021, 11:30 AM

Did you forget about the existence of Forbes, tbh?

Forbes at the two is a definite risk. My hopes are that McD’s 3pt shooting (he is getting the green light fo sho) and a takeover of this tram by DJ/White on both ends of the floor leaves Forbes to a deep bench role and captain of the coffee gang.

I don’t dislike Forbes as much as I once did just want to him to earn his minutes on both sides of the court. Patty developed into a scrappy, pesky and sometimes smart defender who put obvious time in the gym to build his body. I personally see this signing as a similiar opportunity for Brynn. Outside of DJ/Keldon and maybe a healthy White my optimism in this squad is placed on everyone getting a shot to to show what they have.

KingKev

08-22-2021, 11:33 AM

You cannot start Poeltl Young and DJ. The spacing would be worse than last year.

Agreed. With better 3pt shooting Thad probably starts somewhere. However we still lack shooting. McD has to start and I don’t see Keldon or Jak being bumped.

NASpurs

08-22-2021, 11:35 AM

Pop’s pet has all that corporate knowledge, championship swagger, spreads the floor on offense and Pop’ll need some reason to justify bringing his ass back so of course he’ll start.

talkspurs

08-22-2021, 12:11 PM

I would like Luka to start just like lonnie did and see what he has. Move KJ back to the 3 and go from there. I think 3 startes are DJM, KJ and Jacob. White probably has it as well so it is asking who will be the fifth? Luka is young and a natural at the position. I know some dont think he has grown much but I want to see him given a legit shot.

DPG21920

08-22-2021, 12:57 PM

Murray
White
Lonnie
Doug
Jakob

See if Lonnie defense makes a leap to make that the right lineup. If not, put in Thad over Doug.

Dejounte

08-22-2021, 01:41 PM

Lonnie was already being groomed to be a 6th man towards the end of last season, with Pop going on to say that he could be a version of Manu for the team (probably to make it easy for Lonnie’s ego). Pop doesn’t say things like that lightly. It’s usually with a purpose. It’s either White or Vassell for the 2 spot. Murray, Keldon, and Poeltl are a lock to start. And the mystery man for the last starting position is probably a guy who can shoot… McDermott. Dark horse for that last starter position is Luka. Just like dark horse for last season was Keldon, absolutely no one saw that coming.

SAGirl

08-22-2021, 01:44 PM

Did you forget about the existence of Forbes, tbh?
I wonder if the addition of MCD isn't in some way to avoid starting Forbes, but we'll see what's in Pop's mind.

timvp

08-22-2021, 03:03 PM

Murray
White
Lonnie
Doug
Jakob

See if Lonnie defense makes a leap to make that the right lineup. If not, put in Thad over Doug.

Keldon not starting tbh?

BackHome

08-22-2021, 03:08 PM

Your right Pop is going to go on full Mad Scientist Beast Mode - That will definitely help with the tanking will start seeing glimpses of players who will stay and seeing players who will be traded or let go after the season. But make no mistake the goal is the number 1 Draft Pick anything less then that is a FAILURE ....LOL

TD 21

08-22-2021, 03:40 PM

Murray
White
Lonnie
Doug
Jakob

See if Lonnie defense makes a leap to make that the right lineup. If not, put in Thad over Doug.

They'd already be pushing it size wise starting a Johnson and McDermott forward duo, anything smaller is more than likely untenable.

Lonnie was already being groomed to be a 6th man towards the end of last season, with Pop going on to say that he could be a version of Manu for the team (probably to make it easy for Lonnie’s ego). Pop doesn’t say things like that lightly. It’s usually with a purpose. It’s either White or Vassell for the 2 spot. Murray, Keldon, and Poeltl are a lock to start. And the mystery man for the last starting position is probably a guy who can shoot… McDermott. Dark horse for that last starter position is Luka. Just like dark horse for last season was Keldon, absolutely no one saw that coming.

Samanic is more likely to be cut than start. He's a unique, somewhat intriguing player, but this fascination this board has with a player who's got a ways to go to show he's an NBA player, is bizarre.

Johnson at least forced their hand rotationally with his performance in his few appearnces before the shutdown and in "the bubble".

Dejounte

08-22-2021, 03:53 PM

They'd already be pushing it size wise starting a Johnson and McDermott forward duo, anything smaller is more than likely untenable.

Samanic is more likely to be cut than start. He's a unique, somewhat intriguing player, but this fascination this board has with a player who's got a ways to go to show he's an NBA player, is bizarre.

Johnson at least forced their hand rotationally with his performance in his few appearnces before the shutdown and in "the bubble".

Counterargument would be is that if Samanic was far off as you say, why would they bother playing him in a starter role over Rudy Gay last season? It wasn't a one-off thing either, Pop consistently did it when he didn't have to at times.

Don't read what I'm not writing... I'm not as high on Samanic to believe he's a surefire rotational player, it's my "out-of-left-field" answer for a team that makes "out-of-left-field" decisions sometimes. Who would be your dark horse pick?

TD 21

08-22-2021, 04:36 PM

Counterargument would be is that if Samanic was far off as you say, why would they bother playing him in a starter role over Rudy Gay last season? It wasn't a one-off thing either, Pop consistently did it when he didn't have to at times.

Don't read what I'm not writing... I'm not as high on Samanic to believe he's a surefire rotational player, it's my "out-of-left-field" answer for a team that makes "out-of-left-field" decisions sometimes. Who would be your dark horse pick?

Classic Pop move to keep the second unit intact. Samanic, like Jones, will get his chances, but barring a trade, it's highly unlikely he'll start the season in the rotation.

I don't have one, but the candidates would be Walker IV (McDermott), Vassell (McDermott), and Young (Johnson). These would all be the team is struggling mightily and needs a shakeup type moves though.

SAGirl

08-22-2021, 04:42 PM

Counterargument would be is that if Samanic was far off as you say, why would they bother playing him in a starter role over Rudy Gay last season? It wasn't a one-off thing either, Pop consistently did it when he didn't have to at times.

Don't read what I'm not writing... I'm not as high on Samanic to believe he's a surefire rotational player, it's my "out-of-left-field" answer for a team that makes "out-of-left-field" decisions sometimes. Who would be your dark horse pick?
Pop has normally started third string players when there are injuries. He's done this since I've been a fan going back 7 -8years.... That way he gets a look at the new guy next to the team's best players who can hide him better and he can see if the guy attempts to fit in ad do roleplayer things first. It also affects the least number of guys and rotations. Would not read too much into it. Next season is probably a clean slate for him.

cd021

08-22-2021, 08:12 PM

I still think its going to be

Murray
White
KJ
McDermott
Poeltl

with the bench being:
Forbes
Walker
Vassell
Young
Eubanks

DPG21920

08-22-2021, 09:22 PM

Keldon not starting tbh?

Nope. I don’t think he’s quite there yet. Of course there are certainly scenarios where I can see it and he fits but this is how I would start (not necessarily how I think Pop will go)

JeffDuncan

08-22-2021, 09:47 PM

Counterargument would be is that if Samanic was far off as you say, why would they bother playing him in a starter role over Rudy Gay last season? It wasn't a one-off thing either, Pop consistently did it when he didn't have to at times.

Samanic started 4 games last season.

Gay was DNP in one of them. Murray was DNP in one. DDR was DNP in the other 2.

CGD

08-22-2021, 09:50 PM

Theyll insist on playing White and Murray together, but really Lonnie should be starting instead of one of them.

If you start Keldon then you probably have to start McBob for spacing.

For me “ideal” line up is:

White
Walker
Keldon
McBob
Yak

Allan Rowe vs Wade

08-22-2021, 10:25 PM

imo keldon is a lock to start

pops put him on team us for jehovahsake

DPG21920

08-22-2021, 10:37 PM

Prob agree; was just posting the lineup I would go with.

If it’s what I think Pop will do?

Forbes
Aminu
Thad
Doug
Jak

Mugen

08-22-2021, 10:51 PM

Prob agree; was just posting the lineup I would go with.

If it’s what I think Pop will do?

Forbes
Aminu
Thad
Doug
Jak

https://c.tenor.com/LFeZJ6KRIkYAAAAM/pop-thumbs-up.gif

FutureMan

08-22-2021, 11:43 PM

Murray
White
Walker
Johnson
Poeltl

venitian navigator

08-23-2021, 12:41 AM

DjMurray White Johnson Samanic Poeltl/Londale
Jones Walker Vassell McDermott Young/Londale

Deep bench: Forbes Diop
To evaluate in training camp (more than all for health reasons) : Hutchison Aminu Collins
To develop (g league) : Primo Wieskamp

venitian navigator

08-23-2021, 12:46 AM

Eubanks in deep bench too...

cd021

08-23-2021, 01:36 AM

Murray
White
Walker
Johnson
Poeltl

The bench would be pretty depleted tbh. I could maybe see Vassell inserted at the 3 though. Something like:

Murray, White, Vassell, Johnson, Poeltl
Jones, Forbes, Walker, Aminu, Eubanks

tbdog

08-23-2021, 07:17 AM

The bench would be pretty depleted tbh. I could maybe see Vassell inserted at the 3 though. Something like:

Murray, White, Vassell, Johnson, Poeltl
Jones, Forbes, Walker, Aminu, Eubanks

Mcdermott?

FutureMan

08-23-2021, 08:06 AM

The bench would be pretty depleted tbh. I could maybe see Vassell inserted at the 3 though. Something like:

Murray, White, Vassell, Johnson, Poeltl
Jones, Forbes, Walker, Aminu, Eubanks

I think a bench of
Forbes/Jones
Vassell
McDermott
Young
Landale/Eubanks

will be fine. I know we’re tanking so what I’d do isn’t what will happen but I’d avoid ever having Walker and Forbes share the court.

John B

08-23-2021, 08:36 AM

Nope. I don’t think he’s quite there yet. Of course there are certainly scenarios where I can see it and he fits but this is how I would start (not necessarily how I think Pop will go)

Not a popular opinion, but I agree. Until Keldon has learned to shoot his 3’s much consistently, I would put a better shooter, a McD or a Vassell. But, I would love for Keldon to own the SF position, to allow Luka to start at PF and see what he can do given the opportunity. Luka’s length will also allow Poeltl to prove me wrong and own the C position, protect the rim without having to switch/help the PF position.

Ultimately, this is my preferred SL:
White, Tre/Lonnie
DJ (needs to play more combo and let Derrick be the facilitator), Lonnie, Forbes, (Primo)
Keldon, Devin
Luka, McD, Thad, Zollins
Poeltl, Jock, Eubanks,

C-Dub

08-23-2021, 08:59 AM

McD will start of the season in the starting lineup and will finish the season in the starting lineup due to his salary. Usually the Spurs give more minutes to the players making more money so that they can earn it. Assuming Thad or Aminu and Hutchinson is not on the roster at the beginning of the season, rotation may look something like this:

DJM
White
McD
KJ
Jakob

LW4
Forbes
Vassell
Thad or Luka or Aminu
Eubanks or Joc

exstatic

08-23-2021, 09:28 AM

I’ll probably wait to see what the final 15 man roster is before I even think about the SL or rotation.

cd021

08-23-2021, 02:51 PM

Mcdermott?
I forgot about him and I meant Young not Aminu :lol

Murray, White, Vassell, Johnson, Poeltl
Forbes, Walker, McDermott, Young, Eubanks

Allan Rowe vs Wade

08-23-2021, 03:44 PM

1st
DJM
Forbes
Keldon
Dougie
Poeltl

2nd
White
Lonnie
Thad
Luka
Jock

3rd
Tre
Primo
Vassell
Aminu
Eubanks

-------

this team sucks lmao

DAF86

08-23-2021, 05:22 PM

Murray
White
Johnson
Young/McDermott
Poeltl

Bryn
Walker
Vassell
Young/McDermott
Eubanks

CGD

08-23-2021, 07:23 PM

1st
DJM
Forbes
Keldon
Dougie
Poeltl

2nd
White
Lonnie
Thad
Luka
Jock

3rd
Tre
Primo
Vassell
Aminu
Eubanks

-------

this team sucks lmao

Yeah it’s not excellent….

Lonnie has to start over Bran Forbs btw

The Truth #6

08-23-2021, 07:58 PM

It would be classic Pop to bench KJ after winning a gold. I don’t think his spot in the SL is 100% secure.

bluebellmaniac

08-23-2021, 09:41 PM

It would be classic Pop to bench KJ after winning a gold. I don’t think his spot in the SL is 100% secure.

What would be classic would be, at the first game, Keldon sitting on the bench with his warm-ups on. When Pop calls him to sub in, he unzips and shows the gold medal hanging on his neck. That would be an instant classic. Followed by Pop telling him to sit back down. Lol!

KingKev

08-24-2021, 06:47 AM

I’ll probably wait to see what the final 15 man roster is before I even think about the SL or rotation.

Rotation is harder as the disparity between players is non existent beyond the top 6-7 guys. Pop has been fairly consistent with his starting lineups out the gate the last few years however.

rjv

08-24-2021, 11:51 AM

man, whoever nails this one should get a $50.00 gift card to Fred's Fish Fry.

Ed Helicopter Jones

08-24-2021, 11:53 AM

KingKev

08-24-2021, 01:01 PM

You know, I was pretty excited about the various lineups that could be thrown out there, how the 1st and 2nd units could shape up and be tweaked. Even Pop's tinkering would have been interesting to witness.

Now we know Bryn Fvcking Forbes is going to be hogging a minimum of 25 minutes a game, and likely starting way more than he should, and it's totally taken the wind out of my sails to even care what Pop chooses to do.

That being said, when you look at this roster as it currently stands, you have to think more trades are coming, unless guys are just going to be cut or given the DeMarre Carroll treatment.

It can and probably will get worse. The good thing is we have no long term contracts but I am confident there are no trades coming. PATFO probably thinks this is a playoff team. We are more likely to buyout Thad before trading him somewhere he doesn't wan’t to go.

acoelho1

08-24-2021, 01:58 PM

I think it's an absolute lock that Murray, Johnson & Poetl start and don't see a scenario where any of these 3 go to the bench. It gets more interesting between White & Walker at the 2 and I lean towards White starting with Murray to bring more playmaking and the defensive tandem would be a force in the backcourt.

I expect Tre Jones to at least start the season as the backup point unless he has a disastrous training camp. The 3/4 starter would probably be McDermott but my wildcard although not to confident in this prediction is that Samanic gets the nod. Pop also loves to ruin spacing so if Young is still on the team, don't be surprised if he's in the starting lineup. Lets hope he gets traded.

itzsoweezee

08-24-2021, 08:10 PM

The worst possible outcome, which means it’s probably going to happen: Murray, Forbes, Johnson, Young, Poetl.

Em-City

08-24-2021, 09:38 PM

The worst possible outcome, which means it’s probably going to happen: Murray, Forbes, Johnson, Young, Poetl.
elite spacing !!

tbdog

08-25-2021, 12:09 AM

I don't know who is starting at the 4. Johnson is not an ideal 4. But the spacing of Poeltl!/Young/Murray is poor. McDermott isn't a 4. Aminu probably getting cut and is on the verge of not playing again. So if Luka has the range, could it be him?