*~* 2021-22 NFL Season Predictions Thread *~*

[Millennial_Messiah]

To be revisited after the season. Post your predictions for the regular season inside:

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Most radical prediction of the year:
-Justin Fields comes onto the scene in Week 2 after Andy Dalton and co. get pulverized by the Rams in week 1. Fields pulls a Dak Prescott/Russell Wilson and has a fantastic rookie season, taking the league by storm, sweeps the Packers and wins the division behind an elite Midway Monsters defense.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I don’t have the effort to do the math for team-by-team records, so…

AFC:
1. Bills
2. Chiefs
3. Browns
4. Titans
5. Ravens
6. Steelers
7. Chargers

NFC:
1. Rams
2. Buccaneers
3. Cowboys
4. Packers
5. Seahawks
6. 49ers
7. Vikings

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don’t have the effort to do the math for team-by-team records, so…

AFC:
1. Bills
2. Chiefs
3. Browns
4. Titans
5. Ravens
6. Steelers
7. Chargers

NFC:
1. Rams
2. Buccaneers
3. Cowboys
4. Packers
5. Seahawks
6. 49ers
7. Vikings

You still think the Steelers are viable?!? I don't... their 11-0 start last year was a proven fraud, and the clock is ticking fast on the Big Ben now, pun intended.

[DeadlyDynasty]

You still think the Steelers are viable?!? I don't... their 11-0 start last year was a proven fraud, and the clock is ticking fast on the Big Ben now, pun intended.
Their o-line worries me but I trust them more than teams like Miami (worse OL, crap QB) and Indy (no QB). Of course, if the Raiders ever played to their potential they could crash the party too.

[The Gemini Method]

I don’t have the effort to do the math for team-by-team records, so…

AFC:
1. Bills
2. Chiefs
3. Browns
4. Titans
5. Ravens
6. Steelers
7. Chargers

NFC:
1. Rams
2. Buccaneers
3. Cowboys
4. Packers
5. Seahawks
6. 49ers
7. Vikings
I'd say the Rams would be behind the Bucs. Losing Cam Akers is going to hurt our balance. I hope for a good season as I hope to trek to SoFi this season and check that monstrosity out.

[Robz4000]

AFC:

1. Chiefs
2. Bills
3. Ravens
4. Titans
5. Browns
6. Broncos
7. Steelers

NFC:

1. Bucs
2. Niners
3. Packers
4. Redskins
5. Rams
6. Seahawks
7. Saints

[Millennial_Messiah]

AFC:

1. Chiefs
2. Bills
3. Ravens
4. Titans
5. Browns
6. Broncos
7. Steelers

NFC:

1. Bucs
2. Niners
3. Packers
4. Redskins
5. Rams
6. Seahawks
7. Saints

Redskins, Broncos and Saints don't have a viable QB on their rosters. lolz. And you can argue the Steelers don't have a competent one anymore either, Big Rape has a noodle arm these days.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'd say the Rams would be behind the Bucs. Losing Cam Akers is going to hurt our balance. I hope for a good season as I hope to trek to SoFi this season and check that monstrosity out.

losing one out of 3 rotation backs in a RBBC won't submarine a season, lmfao. they'll pick up one off the street or bring one off the practice squad in his absence and he'll do fine. It's not like they're losing Gurley in 2017.

But I do agree with you and see the Rams being behind the Bucs only because the NFC West winner will probably have at least 4 losses due to them having the gauntlet of having to play each other twice. While the Bucs have an easy division and an easy schedule this year.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Their o-line worries me but I trust them more than teams like Miami (worse OL, crap QB) and Indy (no QB). Of course, if the Raiders ever played to their potential they could crash the party too.
It's not just their o-line. It's their QB who can't throw beyond 10 yards anymore, it's their lack of a running game, it's their boom-or-bust zone blitz happy defense that lost some important parts over the offseason.

Miami's offense is boom-or bust, but they have more potential at QB and WR than the Steelers, plus a more solid defense, even if they won't get as many sacks and turnovers they also won't give up so many big plays like the Steelers do. I still don't see Miami making the playoffs, though. They'll get more wins because they play in a slightly worse division. Indy will likely start 0-5 due to their schedule and lack of starting QB and all pro OG early in the season, but they will return and have a mid and late season rally into the playoffs IMO. Wentz is a very good QB in the right scheme (Frank Reich was his perfect fit and I've said it for a year now he needs to go to the Colts if and when Rivers retires, tbh).

The Raiders will be more of the same from last year, it will be fun to watch Carr and Waller dominate even the best of defensive schemes, but their defense is still atrocious and they'll be a middling team once again.

[The Gemini Method]

losing one out of 3 rotation backs in a RBBC won't submarine a season, lmfao. they'll pick up one off the street or bring one off the practice squad in his absence and he'll do fine. It's not like they're losing Gurley in 2017.

But I do agree with you and see the Rams being behind the Bucs only because the NFC West winner will probably have at least 4 losses due to them having the gauntlet of having to play each other twice. While the Bucs have an easy division and an easy schedule this year.

I thought he came on at the end of the season and that's what turned the Rams' season around after a slight slump. You're probably right, the RBBC thing is McVay's schtick, but Akers to me, seemed like a bit better than the options they have in-house. I know the upgrade in Stafford will probably be better and the D is going to be pretty good. Special teams needs to be better than last year though.

Yeah, the NFC West is going to be something murderous with all 4 teams vying for the title.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I thought he came on at the end of the season and that's what turned the Rams' season around after a slight slump. You're probably right, the RBBC thing is McVay's schtick, but Akers to me, seemed like a bit better than the options they have in-house. I know the upgrade in Stafford will probably be better and the D is going to be pretty good. Special teams needs to be better than last year though.

Yeah, the NFC West is going to be something murderous with all 4 teams vying for the title.
1. RBBC isn't "McVay's schtick". RBBCism has been around for a long time, the 00s Patriots and others used it. Bell cow-ism was once the majority and now it's a solid minority with RBBCism a solid majority. In fact, McVay used a bell cow approach with Gurley for 2 years until the injury forced him to convert to RBBCism :lol

2. Special teams lost Fassel and Zuerlein so no doubt it was going to be a work in progress last year, this year they'll probably be improved provided they can get a kicker who can actually kick, I know the one they had last year (Slocum) was a nuclear disaster from the very first game on. :lol doinking a 21 yard attempt on opening night.

3. NFC West is likely going to have all 4 teams with above .500 records... and very possibly all 4 in the playoffs considering the rest of the NFC, particularly the NFC East and NFC South only having one viable quarterback in each division.

4. Didn't you used to be a Seahawks fan, in the L.O.B. era? :lol changed allegiances over the decline of the LOB and uprise of the McVay offense? :lol

[The Gemini Method]

1. RBBC isn't "McVay's schtick". RBBCism has been around for a long time, the 00s Patriots and others used it. Bell cow-ism was once the majority and now it's a solid minority with RBBCism a solid majority. In fact, McVay used a bell cow approach with Gurley for 2 years until the injury forced him to convert to RBBCism :lol

2. Special teams lost Fassel and Zuerlein so no doubt it was going to be a work in progress last year, this year they'll probably be improved provided they can get a kicker who can actually kick, I know the one they had last year (Slocum) was a nuclear disaster from the very first game on. :lol doinking a 21 yard attempt on opening night.



3. NFC West is likely going to have all 4 teams with above .500 records... and very possibly all 4 in the playoffs considering the rest of the NFC, particularly the NFC East and NFC South only having one viable quarterback in each division.

4. Didn't you used to be a Seahawks fan, in the L.O.B. era? :lol changed allegiances over the decline of the LOB and uprise of the McVay offense? :lol

I was. I didn't have a pro team since L.A. didn't have one at the time. I've been a USC fan most of my life as a student and due to locale. I made mention that I would become an L.A. fan to whomever relocated here first. It happened to be the Rams. I still hope for Wilson to do well, and I was a fan of Sherman and Thomas before they became less than stellar off the field. My take on fandom absolutism is limited solely for the Lakers as that is my #1 team foremost. USC is my #2 then the Rams/Dodgers #3.

[Spurtacular]

Haven't followed all the team moves enough to make a truly educated guess.

But just for fun:

AFC

1. Chiefs
2. Titans
3. Patriots
4. Steelers
5. Broncos
6. Bills
7. Ravens or Jets

NFC

1. Bucs

Damn, that's a sh** show right now. Not even going to bother stacking sh** right now.

AFC stacked though. I see about a dozen or more possible playoff level teams there.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I was. I didn't have a pro team since L.A. didn't have one at the time. I've been a USC fan most of my life as a student and due to locale. I made mention that I would become an L.A. fan to whomever relocated here first. It happened to be the Rams. I still hope for Wilson to do well, and I was a fan of Sherman and Thomas before they became less than stellar off the field. My take on fandom absolutism is limited solely for the Lakers as that is my #1 team foremost. USC is my #2 then the Rams/Dodgers #3.

Oh, if you're an LA guy, then it makes sense. I visited LA just over two weeks ago for a couple days, I liked my little trip. Only thing that I didn't like was the homeless fucks sleeping under the bridges between Compton and Hollywood. I'd never actually seen that in real life before I drove by, only on TV. But Persian Square and Hollywood are very nice. And Santa Monica, too, I enjoyed the beach there. And good choice on the Rams instead of the Choking Chargers, lol. Not to mention the Rams were L.A.'s original team in the first place and never belonged in shithole St. Louis which is a baseball-centric town anyway. And yeah the Dodgers over the Angels makes sense, the Dodgers run their team properly similar to the Cardinals to field a competitive team every year, while the Angels are that country club team that loves to acquire big names but always neglects pitching and never actually wins much.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Haven't followed all the team moves enough to make a truly educated guess.

But just for fun:

AFC

1. Chiefs
2. Titans
3. Patriots
4. Steelers
5. Broncos
6. Bills
7. Ravens or Jets

NFC

1. Bucs

Damn, that's a sh** show right now. Not even going to bother stacking sh** right now.

AFC stacked though. I see about a dozen or more possible playoff level teams there.
I don't. I don't know why anyone is high on Pittsburgh... they showed their true selves in the back third of last year. Flawed team all-around. I have Cincinnati ahead of them, with a healthy Burrow they could get to 7 wins. Denver? I don't believe they ever traded for Aaron Rodgers, did they? Nope... I don't get why anyone is high on them? Drew Lock is atrocious and Bridgewater is a bus driver at best, you saw what he did as a full time starter last year. And their defense isn't what it used to be, even when they get Von Miller back. They aren't going to be good at all until they get a good QB. Last place in that division.

Patriots over Buffalo is an odd choice, but it's only a tiny bit realistic if Mac Jones comes in and plays like a Belichickian elite pocket passer. Scam Newton sucks at this point in his career, straight up.

Miami is forever middling, Raiders the same but for different reasons, I know Zach Wilson is Mormon but the Jets...?! :lmao lol. The Jaguars have a much better rookie QB than the Jets, hate to break it to ya.

[lefty]

https://twitter.com/barryonhere/status/1429825079437836303

[spurraider21]

brady can do literally anything and some people will still insist he's just lucky

[lefty]

Nah he’s an overrated system QB :lol

[Spurtacular]

I don't. I don't know why anyone is high on Pittsburgh... they showed their true selves in the back third of last year. Flawed team all-around. I have Cincinnati ahead of them, with a healthy Burrow they could get to 7 wins. Denver? I don't believe they ever traded for Aaron Rodgers, did they? Nope... I don't get why anyone is high on them? Drew Lock is atrocious and Bridgewater is a bus driver at best, you saw what he did as a full time starter last year. And their defense isn't what it used to be, even when they get Von Miller back. They aren't going to be good at all until they get a good QB. Last place in that division.

Patriots over Buffalo is an odd choice, but it's only a tiny bit realistic if Mac Jones comes in and plays like a Belichickian elite pocket passer. Scam Newton sucks at this point in his career, straight up.

Miami is forever middling, Raiders the same but for different reasons, I know Zach Wilson is Mormon but the Jets...?! :lmao lol. The Jaguars have a much better rookie QB than the Jets, hate to break it to ya.

Remember when I was telling you a year ahead of these ST bandwagoners that the Bills were for real?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Remember when I was telling you a year ahead of these ST bandwagoners that the Bills were for real?

Buffalo had been middling for roughly the past decade though, the Jets have been downright cellar dwellers for a long time. you don't go from 1-16 to a winning season in 1 year. Sam Darnold, who is mediocre as it gets for a starting QB, to a rookie, any rookie, can't really be an upgrade in year 1.

[SpursforSix]

Buffalo had been middling for roughly the past decade though, the Jets have been downright cellar dwellers for a long time. you don't go from 1-16 to a winning season in 1 year. Sam Darnold, who is mediocre as it gets for a starting QB, to a rookie, any rookie, can't really be an upgrade in year 1.

It's hard to know how bad Darnold really was under Gase. Look at what happened to Tannehill after going from Gase to a new coach.

[Spurtacular]

Buffalo had been middling for roughly the past decade though, the Jets have been downright cellar dwellers for a long time. you don't go from 1-16 to a winning season in 1 year. Sam Darnold, who is mediocre as it gets for a starting QB, to a rookie, any rookie, can't really be an upgrade in year 1.

That's where you're totally wrong. Sam Darnold is a pile of crap. Barring injury, Zach Wilson is a future HOF'er.

As for the Bills, I saw them on the up. They just hadn't developed consistency yet.

[Spurtacular]

Haven't followed all the team moves enough to make a truly educated guess.

But just for fun:

AFC

1. Chiefs
2. Titans
3. Patriots
4. Steelers
5. Broncos
6. Bills
7. Ravens or Jets

NFC

1. Bucs

Damn, that's a sh** show right now. Not even going to bother stacking sh** right now.

AFC stacked though. I see about a dozen or more possible playoff level teams there.


Finishing the NFC:

1. Bucs
2. Seahawks
3. Packers
4. Vikings
5. Niners
6. Saints
7. Rams

I get that NFC East guaranteed a playoff spot. But not dignifying their sh** on this list.
I'll call Washington Redskins winning the division though.

[Spurtacular]

I don't. I don't know why anyone is high on Pittsburgh... they showed their true selves in the back third of last year.

Your Steeler hate getting the best of you. They win games.

:lol No Sh** Show Cincy won't finish past them, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

Denver? I don't believe they ever traded for Aaron Rodgers, did they?

Their lack of QB is why I couldn't put them ahead of KC. But their athleticism jumps off the page.

[Spurtacular]

Patriots over Buffalo is an odd choice, but it's only a tiny bit realistic if Mac Jones comes in and plays like a Belichickian elite pocket passer. Scam Newton sucks at this point in his career, straight up.

Belicek makes the adjustments. Josh Allen still has to show he isn't a flash in the pan.

[Spurtacular]

Miami is forever middling, Raiders the same but for different reasons

Possibly 8 and 9 on my list. If they can avoid slow starts, it'll be interesting.

[The Gemini Method]

Oh, if you're an LA guy, then it makes sense. I visited LA just over two weeks ago for a couple days, I liked my little trip. Only thing that I didn't like was the homeless fucks sleeping under the bridges between Compton and Hollywood. I'd never actually seen that in real life before I drove by, only on TV. But Persian Square and Hollywood are very nice. And Santa Monica, too, I enjoyed the beach there. And good choice on the Rams instead of the Choking Chargers, lol. Not to mention the Rams were L.A.'s original team in the first place and never belonged in shithole St. Louis which is a baseball-centric town anyway. And yeah the Dodgers over the Angels makes sense, the Dodgers run their team properly similar to the Cardinals to field a competitive team every year, while the Angels are that country club team that loves to acquire big names but always neglects pitching and never actually wins much.

Born and Raised in Long Beach. Went to Poly High for a brief moment in the mid 90's then transferred out due to the escalating gang violence in the LBC. I live and bleed the LBC. knew of Snoop and Warren G back in their heyday. USC was my first sports love. They weren't good with the tail end of John Robinson and the likes of Marinovich and great players like Seau and McGinnest.

My pops took us to an equal amount of Rams and Raiders games, but I like the ultra tribalism of college sports more growing up. Played little league at the same time as the legendary Sean Burroughs-led Long Beach teams. They were sick. A few of the players on their team were in our league and were the ringers. Went to USC for most of undergrad. My pops' was diagnosed with cancer after my 3rd semester there, so I transferred to CSULB to be closer to home and take him to his chemo/doctor's appointments. The Pete Caroll/Leinart/Bush/Lendale USC teams were a great distraction as my father fought cancer at the first part of the 00's. Hence, why I took to liking the Seahawks was Caroll being coach there and rooted for Bush and Leinart as well.

L.A. is home. So much of it is still lovely and while it has its scars, it's often gets bad publicity. The homeless thing is appalling, but it has been an issue long before now. It's been around since Reagan slashed the once sterling state mental health system here. Couple that with the drug war, up and down of the economy since the 80's, 2008 and now the pandemic, you have a magnified homeless population that is often not welcoming to any local. Let alone a visitor. I volunteered for my grad school project with the homeless of Long Beach and it was a really eye-opening experience just how wide ranging the reasons and locales many of the homeless hail from.

We're going to a Dodger game this Tuesday. It's the first one since 2019. I would like to check out SoFi soon. Maybe this year. How do you think the Cowboys are going to fare this year? Is Dak's shoulder a concern? The NL West is crazy competitive and it is sad to see the Angels stall in mediocrity when they have 2 of the best talents in baseball and no pitching to speak of.

I'd like to visit Austin someday. I have friends from out here that moved to Dallas in the Little Elm/Oak area. Not sure where exactly, but they work for Toyota. Also want to visit the Buck-Ees (sp) and get some real BBQ.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Born and Raised in Long Beach. Went to Poly High for a brief moment in the mid 90's then transferred out due to the escalating gang violence in the LBC. I live and bleed the LBC. knew of Snoop and Warren G back in their heyday. USC was my first sports love. They weren't good with the tail end of John Robinson and the likes of Marinovich and great players like Seau and McGinnest.

My pops took us to an equal amount of Rams and Raiders games, but I like the ultra tribalism of college sports more growing up. Played little league at the same time as the legendary Sean Burroughs-led Long Beach teams. They were sick. A few of the players on their team were in our league and were the ringers. Went to USC for most of undergrad. My pops' was diagnosed with cancer after my 3rd semester there, so I transferred to CSULB to be closer to home and take him to his chemo/doctor's appointments. The Pete Caroll/Leinart/Bush/Lendale USC teams were a great distraction as my father fought cancer at the first part of the 00's. Hence, why I took to liking the Seahawks was Caroll being coach there and rooted for Bush and Leinart as well.

L.A. is home. So much of it is still lovely and while it has its scars, it's often gets bad publicity. The homeless thing is appalling, but it has been an issue long before now. It's been around since Reagan slashed the once sterling state mental health system here. Couple that with the drug war, up and down of the economy since the 80's, 2008 and now the pandemic, you have a magnified homeless population that is often not welcoming to any local. Let alone a visitor. I volunteered for my grad school project with the homeless of Long Beach and it was a really eye-opening experience just how wide ranging the reasons and locales many of the homeless hail from.

We're going to a Dodger game this Tuesday. It's the first one since 2019. I would like to check out SoFi soon. Maybe this year. How do you think the Cowboys are going to fare this year? Is Dak's shoulder a concern? The NL West is crazy competitive and it is sad to see the Angels stall in mediocrity when they have 2 of the best talents in baseball and no pitching to speak of.

I'd like to visit Austin someday. I have friends from out here that moved to Dallas in the Little Elm/Oak area. Not sure where exactly, but they work for Toyota. Also want to visit the Buck-Ees (sp) and get some real BBQ.

LA (not Santa Monica, but the rest of it) was very hot and dry when I visited. Definitely a high income inequality thing there. Seems like very little middle class; everything is either upscale or downright ghetto. I agree with the baseball stuff. I think the Cowboys are no doubt the best team in the division with by far the best QB and we will win the division easily with double digit wins if Dak and the majority of the team stays healthy this year.

I don't recommend Austin at all. It makes L.A. traffic seem like a breeze in comparison. The high density stuff is all in the same place, it's a poorly planned city, plus they defunded the police and gang violence is on the rise as well. If you go to DFW, stay out of Dallas and hit up Fort Worth and the nice suburbs like Plano and Frisco. Also Denton is a cute little city, I lived there for 3 years. Buc-ee's is overrated and overpriced, and the gas quality isn't very good (got 45.2 summer MPG with Buc-ee's standard unleaded gas vs. 49.7 MPG with other brands like Valero, QT, Chevron, Shell and Texaco).

[Spurtacular]

LA (not Santa Monica, but the rest of it) was very hot and dry when I visited.

Weather five miles from coastline and twenty plus miles from the coastline always drastically different in California.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Weather five miles from coastline and twenty plus miles from the coastline always drastically different in California.

yep. I visited Crescent City CA for a day and it was arguably the most beautiful little city I've ever been in in the United States, and I've been to most places in the USA. I could practically live there if it wasn't for the high quake and tsunami risk, high gas and housing prices.. Cool, crisp temperatures even in the heart of summer... redwoods... gorgeous beaches... and pro-GOP / Trump signs in the city center ("Save America ; Impeach A Democrat")... it's my personal favorite place in the entire state. 10/10 place to visit.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) the day after I visited LA I was heading back East on i-10 and at 9PM at night in San Bernardino and Desert Hot Springs/Palm Springs the temp went from 87 in LA to 109 degrees in like half an hour of driving... crazy. I don't get why anyone would ever want to live in the Inland "Empire"... you have all the cons of living in CA without any of the pros (namely, temperate weather)... you're basically paying CA prices on everything and CA taxes to live in Phoenix junior.

[The Gemini Method]

Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) the day after I visited LA I was heading back East on i-10 and at 9PM at night in San Bernardino and Desert Hot Springs/Palm Springs the temp went from 87 in LA to 109 degrees in like half an hour of driving... crazy. I don't get why anyone would ever want to live in the Inland "Empire"... you have all the cons of living in CA without any of the pros (namely, temperate weather)... you're basically paying CA prices on everything and CA taxes to live in Phoenix junior. The Inland Empire was last to really be touched by the explosion in cost. You could get a much bigger abode on what was once a middle class two income household out here in the 90's. Housing was inherently cheaper out there 20-25 years ago and you had those moving eastward from the likes of L.A. and South from S.F. to places like Menifee and Corona and Temecula.

[Spurtacular]

Spurtacular (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49615) the day after I visited LA I was heading back East on i-10 and at 9PM at night in San Bernardino and Desert Hot Springs/Palm Springs the temp went from 87 in LA to 109 degrees in like half an hour of driving... crazy. I don't get why anyone would ever want to live in the Inland "Empire"... you have all the cons of living in CA without any of the pros (namely, temperate weather)... you're basically paying CA prices on everything and CA taxes to live in Phoenix junior.

Yea, it's a sh** show like that. Same temperature swing driving from Seal Beach to say Santa Fe Springs in a half hour.

IE is not Phoenix, which is still five to seven degrees hotter on average. High Desert would be more comparable to Phoenix; but at least out there you're closer to Vegas. It really makes for cheap weekend getaways. But if you're out there, you probably want to move to Texas or Vegas unless you have friends/family in SoCal or an affinity for visiting LA or OC.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The Inland Empire was last to really be touched by the explosion in cost. You could get a much bigger abode on what was once a middle class two income household out here in the 90's. Housing was inherently cheaper out there 20-25 years ago and you had those moving eastward from the likes of L.A. and South from S.F. to places like Menifee and Corona and Temecula.

Yea, it's a sh** show like that. Same temperature swing driving from Seal Beach to say Santa Fe Springs in a half hour.

IE is not Phoenix, which is still five to seven degrees hotter on average. High Desert would be more comparable to Phoenix; but at least out there you're closer to Vegas. It really makes for cheap weekend getaways. But if you're out there, you probably want to move to Texas or Vegas unless you have friends/family in SoCal or an affinity for visiting LA or OC.
Right. My point exactly. Unless you're on medi-cal or have other things that tie you down to california, it's simply much more cost efficient to live in another warm state like AZ, TX, GA, FL instead of living inside of CA but too far east of the California coast.

If I had to pick a city in California to settle down permanently it'd be Crescent City, but I digress. Perhaps there isn't a great job market, but I'm a work from home guy anyways and since I'm senior level they'd pay for me to travel to the bay or wherever plus interest if they needed me to.

Vegas/Nevada in general has become almost as expensive as L.A. these days, at least in terms of housing, gas, commodities etc. and the summers are HOT-HOT-HOT in Vegas. Vegas is worth visiting outside of the summer months but I don't see any point living there since the left wing has pretty much completely taken over that state and implemented California-esque policy there which has caused similar inflation there.

[The Gemini Method]

Right. My point exactly. Unless you're on medi-cal or have other things that tie you down to california, it's simply much more cost efficient to live in another warm state like AZ, TX, GA, FL instead of living inside of CA but too far east of the California coast.

If I had to pick a city in California to settle down permanently it'd be Crescent City, but I digress. Perhaps there isn't a great job market, but I'm a work from home guy anyways and since I'm senior level they'd pay for me to travel to the bay or wherever plus interest if they needed me to.

Vegas/Nevada in general has become almost as expensive as L.A. these days, at least in terms of housing, gas, commodities etc. and the summers are HOT-HOT-HOT in Vegas. Vegas is worth visiting outside of the summer months but I don't see any point living there since the left wing has pretty much completely taken over that state and implemented California-esque policy there which has caused similar inflation there.
Crescent City is beautiful. If you can work from home, then yes, anywhere would be a nascent upgrade for any particular person/family. Nevada outside of Reno and Las Vegas has cheap areas but like you said about CC, the work atmosphere isn't really conducive of living anything other than a meager existence. The eastward migration of Californians to Vegas has been a no-surprise as I have a few friends whose family own property out there and some have flipped and others have bought more property ahead of the "Californication" of Nevada. That Reliant Stadium is nice though, sorry for the derailment of the thread.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Crescent City is beautiful. If you can work from home, then yes, anywhere would be a nascent upgrade for any particular person/family. Nevada outside of Reno and Las Vegas has cheap areas but like you said about CC, the work atmosphere isn't really conducive of living anything other than a meager existence. The eastward migration of Californians to Vegas has been a no-surprise as I have a few friends whose family own property out there and some have flipped and others have bought more property ahead of the "Californication" of Nevada. That Reliant Stadium is nice though, sorry for the derailment of the thread.

Californication of Nevada is a real thing though. Gas prices actually went up between metro parts of CA vs. metro parts of NV. NV has no state taxes and has to make it up some way I guess besides just all the sin taxes (gambling, casinos, tobacco, alcohol, drugs, prostitution) that are legal there.

the only place I downright hated in CA was the San Jose / Silicon Valley / bay area. Can't even get gas even though it's all over $4 the pumps are empty (I stopped at 4 places that the people inside said they were closed), the guys that run the gas stores are extremely sketchy, they don't have restrooms except for outside and you have to leave your car keys in exchange for the bathroom door key, no thanks), gasbuddy is unreliable, the people are rude, the drivers are awful there. LA actually was pretty nice in comparison.

[Spurtacular]

Californication of Nevada is a real thing though. Gas prices actually went up between metro parts of CA vs. metro parts of NV. NV has no state taxes and has to make it up some way I guess besides just all the sin taxes (gambling, casinos, tobacco, alcohol, drugs, prostitution) that are legal there.

the only place I downright hated in CA was the San Jose / Silicon Valley / bay area. Can't even get gas even though it's all over $4 the pumps are empty (I stopped at 4 places that the people inside said they were closed), the guys that run the gas stores are extremely sketchy, they don't have restrooms except for outside and you have to leave your car keys in exchange for the bathroom door key, no thanks), gasbuddy is unreliable, the people are rude, the drivers are awful there. LA actually was pretty nice in comparison.

San Jose is a glorified shit hole pretty much.

SF has been nice whenever I've went; but the stories and images mount. Silicon Valley is fine to look at; but it's the biggest caste system in America.

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San Jose is a glorified shit hole pretty much.

SF has been nice whenever I've went; but the stories and images mount. Silicon Valley is fine to look at; but it's the biggest caste system in America.
All in all I was much more impressed with the LA area than the entire Bay area, even though I went to the bay area first (was headed south from Seattle on ca-101. ca-1 and such roads; finally ended up on i-5, stayed at a motel 6 in Lost Hills which was surprisingly a nice place and affordable, and then spent the next day in and around LA, traffic wasn't so bad even on a weekday) and Compton/north Long Beach area was a shithole.

Crescent City is my #1 in California... followed by Oxnard (saw a part of a Cowboys practice without paying), Santa Monica and the Persian Square of LA. Hollywood is ok too but the roads are winding and hard to navigate. I went to the celebrity observation deck drive thing too, it was fine, at least I got a free parking spot. Needles area in far east San Bernardino county near the Mojave is a fine area too, though everything there is uber pricey. There's a cool little dispensary called "I <3 THC" there. I wasn't at all impressed by the Inland Empire and wouldn't understand why anyone would want to live from East LA all the way through Indio, joshua tree area, going east of LA on i-10.

Arizona is much more thrilling though... I-17 was crafted as a sub-2 hour beeline from Phoenix to Flagstaff and back, with a whopping 7500 ft elevation difference and 50 degree temperature change in under 2 hours. I got to sleep in a sleeping bag near the top of Humphreys Peak north of Flagstaff, elevation around 12000 ft. The drive up that hill in my sedan was rough, especially at night, but I made it and back down the next morning. All in all, a worthwhile trip.

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Wayyyy to many wins for the Texans tbh