No, Ivermectin Is Not Making People Poop Out "Rope Worms". The Truth Is Much Worse

[RandomGuy]

Not for the faint of heart.

You have been warned.

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https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/no-ivermectin-is-not-making-people-poop-out-rope-worms-the-truth-is-much-worse/

The data is in: being double vaccinated reduces your risk of catching COVID-19 by up to 60 percent and your risk of dying by more than 85 percent. And so naturally tens of thousands of people have done the sensible thing and ... totally rejected the vaccine in favor of scarfing down obscene quantities of foul-tasting goo designed to kill parasitic worms inside horses.

Thousands of conspiracy theorists and anti-vaxxers have gone to extreme lengths in recent months to get hold of ivermectin, a medication for diseases caused by parasites in horses. The idea is that this will cure or prevent COVID-19, an illness that is notably not caused by a parasite and affects horses very differently to humans.

It's got so bad that the FDA has had to issue a reminder that people are not horses. In fact, now the universe itself seems to have weighed in, with some of the conspiracists who managed to choke down the disgusting paste developing a nasty case of pooping themselves in public. Ignoring even this hint that maybe their chosen curative might not be the wonder drug they’d been told, ivermectin true believers have continued dosing themselves with dangerous levels of horse de-wormer – and while their COVID-19 is probably no better, some have noticed another side effect: the appearance of “rope worms”.

“Might be a stupid question but has anyone pooped out worms from taking ivermectin?” one woman asked a Facebook group devoted to the horse medicine. “[I’m] just curious.”

“Yes,” replied a fellow equine de-wormer aficionado. “[I’ve] been expelling rope worms with coffee enemas for a while now it’s different with [ivermectin] … I got this tummy rumbling like I had to go with diarrhea … so I go to the pot and out comes a bile dump with full rope worms heads and all!”

They aren’t the only ones. So what are these “rope worms” that so many people are apparently infested with? How are they spread? And really, what are the chances that all these people actually needed de-worming?

Well, as you may have guessed from the title and general tone of the article so far, those … aren’t worms.

“Rope worms”, or to use the scientific term,[B] “bits of intestinal lining that have been sloughed off because you’re ingesting poison and your body can’t handle it”, have a rich history in pseudo (which is to say, anti) scientific circles. The idea dates back to 2009, coincidentally not long after one Jim Humble started marketing what he called his “Miracle Mineral Solution”, or MMS. This, he said, could cure cancer, AIDS, malaria, autism – pretty much anything short of death itself. So why haven’t you heard of this miracle cure? Well, you probably have – but under a different name. You probably know it as industrial bleach.

So people started drinking bleach. They started squirting bleach up their butts. More upsettingly, they started forcing bleach into their kids, prompting more than one report to child protective services. And the result of all this bleach – apart from the vomiting, diarrhea, dehydration, liver failure, and death – was the appearance of long, rope-like, and never-before-seen organisms in the toilet bowl.

These, people decided, must be intestinal worms, which were (somehow) responsible for (usually) their kids’ autism (warning: that link is extremely upsetting). The worst part was that this was taken as proof that the bleach cure was working – in fact, it was causing irreparable damage to the organs of the “patients”.

“It can lead to kidney damage and kidney failure,” medical toxicologist Dr. Daniel Brooks told NBC. The idea that MMS could treat autism was “ludicrous … This stuff does nothing other than introduce potential risk,” he said.

As you’ve probably guessed, the “rope worms” that people have reported after taking ivermectin are caused by the same thing: their intestines being attacked by a massive dose of, essentially, poison. Veterinary-grade ivermectin – there is a version made for humans, but it comes in much lower doses – is causing their guts to shed its protective mucusy lining. To the untrained eye, these strands of human tissue may look like worms, but in fact they’re a sign that something is terribly wrong.

"[If] people are taking product designed for topical application or products designed for cows, horses, or other things then there's no telling what that might look like on the back end, so to speak," pathologist Dr Wesley Long told Business Insider.

With the coronavirus pandemic in full swing, we are living in a golden age of medical misinformation (and yes of course MMS has been touted as a COVID-19 cure). Whether that’s sharing the details of conspiratorial doctors willing to issue dangerous prescriptions over the internet, or insisting that the mucus lining of your intestines is actually a parasitic worm unknown to conventional medicine, the results are the same: more sickness, and potentially even death.

The biggest irony of all is perhaps that, in small doses, ivermectin really is used to treat people with diseases caused by intestinal worms. There’s really only one small detail the conspiracy theorists have got wrong: the worms have to actually exist if you want the medicine to work.

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The costs of being a conspiracy theorist can be... high.

[Thread]

Biden has the con, RG.

[Spurs Homer]

:clap:clap ^ iver-rectum

[Leetonidas]

:lol taking horse meds, putting coffee up the ass, and shitting out their intestinal lining to own the libs

[Thread]

:lol taking horse meds, putting coffee up the ass, and shitting out their intestinal lining to own the libs

McQueen took the coffee application and died anyway.

[Spurtacular]

Pity post.

[DarrinS]

Fauci's group gonna kill people

https://www.nih.gov/research-training/medical-research-initiatives/activ/covid-19-therapeutics-prioritized-testing-clinical-trials#activ6

[RandomGuy]

:clap:clap ^ iver-rectum

Well-played.

[RandomGuy]

Fauci's group gonna kill people

https://www.nih.gov/research-training/medical-research-initiatives/activ/covid-19-therapeutics-prioritized-testing-clinical-trials#activ6

Your group is shitting blood and strips of their own intestines, while dying by the thousands because they don't want to take vaccines.

All to pwn the libs.

smh

[RandomGuy]

Pity post.

Yes, we all pity you for your posts.

http://memecrunch.com/meme/145HC/you-are-a-sad-strange-little-man/image.png

[DarrinS]

Your group is shitting blood and strips of their own intestines, while dying by the thousands because they don't want to take vaccines.

All to pwn the libs.

smh


My group has natural immunity + two shots. And not to pwn anyone.

I wouldn't recommend using veterinary medicines.

[Ef-man]

:cry muh we need research on this :cry


:lmao

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Worthless without pics

[Ef-man]

Worthless without pics

:lmao

You want playblair all excited or what?

No thank you!

[pgardn]

:lmao

You want playblair all excited or what?

No thank you!

fckn hell... no

[Mark Celibate]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErUnzXQXcAY2XIf.jpg

[Neo.]

never understood what made people think heartworm medication will cure covid

[SnakeBoy]

never understood what made people think heartworm medication will cure covid

I have said since the start that unlike HCQ I never saw any scientific reason why ivermectin might work. I haven't seen any real world evidence of it working either. That said, for those who disagree and want to buy it from tractor supply, I recommend the apple flavor paste with a touch of cinnamon.

[Blake]

I have said since the start that unlike HCQ I never saw any scientific reason why ivermectin might work. I haven't seen any real world evidence of it working either. That said, for those who disagree and want to buy it from tractor supply, I recommend the apple flavor paste with a touch of cinnamon.

You've tried it?

[DarrinS]

White tail deer population infected with covid.

Horses appear to be unaffected.

[ChumpDumper]

White tail deer population infected with covid.

Horses appear to be unaffected.Is this your passive aggressive way of saying you think Ivermectin is the difference?

:lolWhy are you so wimpy?

[DarrinS]

Is this your passive aggressive way of saying you think Ivermectin is the difference?

:lolWhy are you so wimpy?


You spend a sad amount of time here debating stupid shit.

Go outside.

[ChumpDumper]

You spend a sad amount of time here debating stupid shit.

Go outside.Been outside quite a bit today tbh. More than you I'd wager if you don't count your smoke breaks. Drank less than you too.

Why the little deer/horse vignette, Darrin?

[DarrinS]

Been outside quite a bit today tbh. More than you I'd wager if you don't count your smoke breaks. Drank less than you too.

Why the little deer/horse vignette, Darrin?


No reports of covid with the ranchers I know.

[ChumpDumper]

No reports of covid with the ranchers I know.Which means what, according to you?

[DarrinS]

Which means what, according to you?

Who knows, but they're vaccinating the animals at the SA zoo. Lol

[ChumpDumper]

Who knows.Why did you bring it up, then?

[Thread]

I just found this on the KTAR website here in AZ...

Rain from monsoon season in Arizona brings toxic Sonoran Desert toads

PHOENIX — Poison experts warn the Sonoran Desert toads that come out during the rain in Arizona’s monsoon season can be dangerous for humans and pets.
The toads produce a toxin that’s released through the glands behind their eyes.
Maureen Roland, managing director of the Banner Poison and Drug Information Center, says a small amount on your skin won’t cause much harm but ingesting it or inhaling it will.




“It can cause hallucinations and some cardia dysrhythmias – it can be very dangerous,” Roland told KTAR News 92.3 FM.

She said the Banner Poison Center has seen an uptick in calls from people who’ve been exposed to the toads, which she added can also be dangerous for pets.
“We do have many fatalities every year, unfortunately, from dogs mouthing these toads when they see them,” she said."

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Then in the comment section this:::

Trent (https://disqus.com/by/disqus_vP0SOurtJH/) • 4 hours ago (https://ktar.com/story/4662285/rain-from-monsoon-season-in-arizona-brings-toxic-sonoran-desert-toads/?show=comments#comment-5518024221)Instead of getting the FDA approved vaccine. Anti-vaxxers now are licking and eating the toad, as they believe that is the cure for COVID-19. So besides taking horse dewormer, ingesting RoundUp weed killer, now anti-vaxxers are licking poisonous toads. Like Trump said, "I love the poorly educated". Unfortunately, they are dying off and dropping like flies. At least 7 well-known anti-vaxxer radio talk show hosts have died in the past 6 weeks.







tee, hee.

[RandomGuy]

No reports of covid with the ranchers I know.

This is super relvant because ranchers hang out for hours on end indoors in poorly ventilated places with live infected animals.

Thanks for the brilliant, keen observation. We would never have known about this huge, relevant risk.

[DarrinS]

This is super relvant because ranchers hang out for hours on end indoors in poorly ventilated places with live infected animals.

Thanks for the brilliant, keen observation. We would never have known about this huge, relevant risk.


The whitetail deer have it

Thanks for stalking

[RandomGuy]

The whitetail deer have it

Thanks for stalking

This is super relevant because ranchers hang out for hours on end indoors in poorly ventilated places with live infected animals.

Thanks for the brilliant, keen observation. We would never have known about this huge, relevant risk.

[RandomGuy]

I mean, I personally have 10 white tail deer in my office right now, and they won't leave. Been here all day and will be here tomorrow.

I am super concerned about getting COVID from them, and am sure this is a significant source of infection.

[Neo.]

I have said since the start that unlike HCQ I never saw any scientific reason why ivermectin might work. I haven't seen any real world evidence of it working either. That said, for those who disagree and want to buy it from tractor supply, I recommend the apple flavor paste with a touch of cinnamon.

so what has made people think heartworm medication is a better way to handle COVID than vaccines, social distancing or masks?

[Spurs Homer]

Aayyyy!!! my rectum!




:rollin:rollin:lol:lol:clap

[hater]

https://twitter.com/zachzachzach/status/1433165332928032768?s=19

:lmao

[DarrinS]

He didn't get the "rope worms" memo. RIP. :lol

[hater]

https://twitter.com/MacharyZartin/status/1433196524230565893?s=19

[SnakeBoy]

https://twitter.com/zachzachzach/status/1433165332928032768?s=19

:lmao

:lol

Dude has been saying he doesn't need to be vaccinated because he's so healthy

Panics immediately when infected :lol

I was wondering what kind of shit doctor he has that would do all of that but then I realized the answer...a well paid one

[hater]

:lol

Dude has been saying he doesn't need to be vaccinated because he's so healthy

Panics immediately when infected :lol

I was wondering what kind of shit doctor he has that would do all of that but then I realized the answer...a well paid one

Sounds like trump.

Im vaxed but if Im bad the 3rd day.. give me the redesmir and horse pills ASAP

[DarrinS]

:lol

Dude has been saying he doesn't need to be vaccinated because he's so healthy

Panics immediately when infected :lol

I was wondering what kind of shit doctor he has that would do all of that but then I realized the answer...a well paid one


Full recovery on day 3?

I'd say he has a good doctor.

[koriwhat]

He didn't get the "rope worms" memo. RIP. :lol

Most likely he took the oral liquid for humans at a smaller dose than prescribed for animals but nevermind reality because we're living in a dystopia of make believe by the retarded lefties atm.

[koriwhat]

Horse paste. :lol

Tell that to the Japanese bro!

You know just as much about it as the next dude which is zilch but you pretend to be a Doc here on ST where you also pretend to be a man. :tu

[Blake]

Tell that to the Japanese bro!

You know just as much about it as the next dude which is zilch but you pretend to be a Doc here on ST where you also pretend to be a man. :tu

Of course tats is shielding for the horse pills

[koriwhat]

Poor BlaKKKe is so hard up for attention... Go ask your ex for some bro! :lmao

[Adam Lambert]

Full recovery on day 3?

I'd say he has a good doctor.

Yeah and enough money to pay for monoclonal antibody treatment.

But you probably think it was the ivermectin.

:lmao scared Rogan
:lmao Rogan followers

[Adam Lambert]

:lmao :lmao

1433223105393033220

[DarrinS]

Yeah and enough money to pay for monoclonal antibody treatment.

But you probably think it was the ivermectin.

:lmao scared Rogan
:lmao Rogan followers


Monoclonals are free, because orange man

[SnakeBoy]

Full recovery on day 3?

I'd say he has a good doctor.

I guess my comment wasn't clear. I first thought what a shit doctor throwing the kitchen sink at him when all he had to do was get the monoclonals, then I realized Joe Rogan has a concierge doctor.

Sending him for monoclonals was the right move. The rest was just to make the high profile panicking patient stfu.

Full recovery 24-48 hrs after receiving monoclonals is typical if they're given early enough

[hater]

Monoclonals are free, because orange man

:lol

idiots think only millionaires get monoclonals?

:lmao

[DarrinS]

I guess my comment wasn't clear. I first thought what a shit doctor throwing the kitchen sink at him when all he had to do was get the monoclonals, then I realized Joe Rogan has a concierge doctor.

Sending him for monoclonals was the right move. The rest was just to make the high profile panicking patient stfu.

Full recovery 24-48 hrs after receiving monoclonals is typical if they're given early enough


Whatever works. Ivermectin is a broad spectrum antiviral. Monoclonals definitely work, too.

[DarrinS]

If you want monoclonals, just lie and say you have asthma.

[DarrinS]

I don't know why people think vaccine and therapies are mutually exclusive. I know vaccinated people who got really sick.

[Blake]

Whatever works. Ivermectin is a broad spectrum antiviral. Monoclonals definitely work, too.

There's no proof that Ivermectin works. What is wrong with all of you fringe treatment freaks?

[Spurtacular]

There's no proof that Ivermectin works.

DEBOONKED!!!

[DarrinS]

There's no proof that Ivermectin works. What is wrong with all of you fringe treatment freaks?

I'm naturally immune + 2x shitty Pfizer. I'm not a "fringe treatment freak". I'm for whatever works, whether vaccinated or unvaccinated.

NIH is still conducting trials on Ivermectin and Fluvoxamine.

[pgardn]

Monoclonals are free, because orange man

Oh.
Yeah sure, WE as in the US is not paying for it.
So there is a company that is paying to make it for the United States? The set up all those labs for free... wow.
Like free school lunches.

[pgardn]

I'm naturally immune + 2x shitty Pfizer. I'm not a "fringe treatment freak". I'm for whatever works, whether vaccinated or unvaccinated.

NIH is still conducting trials on Ivermectin and Fluvoxamine.

So you are fine with unvaccinated because... whatever works. Unvaccinated does not work unless, yes, you want to shut down completely. Just stop people from moving.
Freeze them in place.

Where the fck have you been? Whatever works? like this is up in the air. We fkn know what works.
We also know people have the right to choose what does not work.

[DarrinS]

So you are fine with unvaccinated because... whatever works. Unvaccinated does not work unless, yes, you want to shut down completely. Just stop people from moving.
Freeze them in place.

Where the fck have you been? Whatever works? like this is up in the air. We fkn know what works.
We also know people have the right to choose what does not work.


Early vaccinated people are getting sick. What do you want for them?

[pgardn]

Early vaccinated people are getting sick. What do you want for them?

What are the numbers?
The vaccine also does not work on some people and others react very badly to being vaccinated, what are the numbers?
Some people have weak immune systems, we need them to mask up and get boosters. Its not that difficult, yet it is because, muh rights...

[DarrinS]

What are the numbers?
The vaccine also does not work on some people and others react very badly to being vaccinated, what are the numbers?

High in Israel. What should they do?

[Thread]

High in Israel. What should they do?

Blame it on Hitler.

[pgardn]

High in Israel. What should they do?

Mask up.
And the parts of Israel it is bad in are very densely populated so this is a problem.
May have to lock dense places down.
Low in Chile, wonder why?

[Thread]

Mask up.
And the parts of Israel it is bad in are very densely populated so this is a problem.
May have to lock dense places down.
Low in Chile, wonder why?

How bout twixt your ears.

[pgardn]

Blame it on Hitler.

Because he was a good man...

[DarrinS]

Mask up.
And the parts of Israel it is bad in are very densely populated so this is a problem.
May have to lock dense places down.
Low in Chile, wonder why?

Mask up?

What do fully vaccinated sick people do?

[Thread]

Because he was a good man...

...you know my stance on him...but I'll refresh ya:::when you starve a country out for 20 years you've nobody to blame but yourselves.

[pgardn]

How bout twixt your ears.

touché

But that twixt place is not in Israel.
So its a different problem.

[Thread]

Mask up?

What do fully vaccinated sick people do?

Fly around and eat in restaurants and drink in bars, topless ones.

[pgardn]

...you know my stance on him...but I'll refresh ya:::when you starve a country out for 20 years you've nobody to blame but yourselves.

If we would have put them in the shitter in WWI, Hitler would have no audience.
So annihilate and rebuild.
This is getting repetitive btw...

[Thread]

If we would have put them in the shitter in WWI, Hitler would have no audience.
So annihilate and rebuild.
This is getting repetitive btw...

Notice we didn't put either Japan nor Germany in the shitter after WWII. We built them back better. & we're still baby sitting their fuckin' asses 75 years later.

[pgardn]

Mask up?

What do fully vaccinated sick people do?

What do people who cant get vaccinated do?
They rely on people who get vaccinated.
What happens if people dont get vaccinated and a new more infective strain enters the us?

Around we go...

[Thread]

If we would have put them in the shitter in WWI, Hitler would have no audience.
So annihilate and rebuild.
This is getting repetitive btw...

...just don't put me on Ignore. One more and I'm doin' the Dutch.

[pgardn]

Notice we didn't put either Japan nor Germany in the shitter after WWII. We built them back better. & we're still baby sitting their fuckin' asses 75 years later.

Oh we just fire bombed them to smitherines and dropped atomic bombs until they had no other choice.
How did these countries surrender... yes unconditionally, why do you think this happened?
How was peace made after WWI, unconditional surrender?

Jesus Christ, Im half your age... get off the damn couch and think.

[Thread]

Oh we just fire bombed them to smitherines and dropped atomic bombs until they had no other choice.
How did these countries surrender... yes unconditionally, why do you think this happened?
How was peace made after WWI, unconditional surrender?

Jesus Christ, Im half your age... get off the damn couch and think.

...no way. I love my damn couch. It's beckoning me right now as we speak. "Coming, darling!!!"

[CosmicCowboy]

My doctor prescribed human dosed ivermectin when I had covid. I thought it was pretty funny since it was what I used on my horses.

[spurraider21]

I don't know why people think vaccine and therapies are mutually exclusive. I know vaccinated people who got really sick.
Literally nobody is saying this

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1433407893999599616

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1433409624003256322

:lol

[Blake]

The new hydroxychloroquine

[CosmicCowboy]

Ivermectin, a US Food and Drug Administration-approved anti-parasitic agent, was found to inhibit severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) replication in vitro. A randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial was conducted to determine the rapidity of viral clearance and safety of ivermectin among adult SARS-CoV-2 patients. The trial included 72 hospitalized patients in Dhaka, Bangladesh, who were assigned to one of three groups: oral ivermectin alone (12 mg once daily for 5 days), oral ivermectin in combination with doxycycline (12 mg ivermectin single dose and 200 mg doxycycline on day 1, followed by 100 mg every 12 h for the next 4 days), and a placebo control group. Clinical symptoms of fever, cough, and sore throat were comparable among the three groups. Virological clearance was earlier in the 5-day ivermectin treatment arm when compared to the placebo group (9.7 days vs 12.7 days; p = 0.02), but this was not the case for the ivermectin + doxycycline arm (11.5 days; p = 0.27). There were no severe adverse drug events recorded in the study. A 5-day course of ivermectin was found to be safe and effective in treating adult patients with mild COVID-19. Larger trials will be needed to confirm these preliminary findings.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/

Ivermectin to prevent hospitalizations in patients with COVID-19 (IVERCOR-COVID19): a structured summary of a study protocol for a randomized controlled trial.
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[Winehole23]

n=72, an awfully thin reed

[DMC]

never understood what made people think heartworm medication will cure covid

Put some tussin on it

[DMC]

n=72, an awfully thin reed

Phase 1 Clinical Trial
A study, of usually less than 100 people, is designed to determine if the vaccine is safe, the best dosage and if there are any serious side effects.

[Winehole23]

Bend over, I'll show you a thin reed.

[DMC]

Facts Schmacts

[koriwhat]

never understood what made people think heartworm medication will cure covid


I have said since the start that unlike HCQ I never saw any scientific reason why ivermectin might work. I haven't seen any real world evidence of it working either. That said, for those who disagree and want to buy it from tractor supply, I recommend the apple flavor paste with a touch of cinnamon.

Just like HCQ it has other uses and not all Ivermectin, the oral liquid in small dosages, is sold at Tractor Supply Co. I have no experience with either however I find it funny that a lot in this thread, and elsewhere, put down med alts just because their television told them it's strictly for horses just like they lie about everything under the sun.

Most of yall are on a strict regimen of TV tbh and yall, not necessarily you SB, don't trust the Science but instead the Television.

[CosmicCowboy]

When you fucks get covid make sure you tell your doctor you won't take ivermectin because you are a democrat.

[DMC]

This is the same group that thinks Trump wanted people to inject clorox into their veins. The dishonesty is thick as fuck with this crowd. They will provide extreme exegesis for anything the left says but then lampoon and misquote anything said by the right. It's easy to see the truth isn't the goal.

[ChumpDumper]

When you fucks get covid make sure you tell your doctor you won't take ivermectin because you are a democrat.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

This is the same group that thinks Trump wanted people to inject clorox into their veins. The dishonesty is thick as fuck with this crowd. They will provide extreme exegesis for anything the left says but then lampoon and misquote anything said by the right. It's easy to see the truth isn't the goal.#StillWithHim

[DMC]

^years after being put on ignore it still responds incessantly :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

When you fucks get covid make sure you tell your doctor you won't take ivermectin because you are a democrat.

when they get it they'll be vaccinated so, yeah, those people aren't taking ivermectin anyway.

[ChumpDumper]

^years after being put on ignore it still responds incessantly :lol:lol you've been replying to me all this time

You've even quoted me.:lmao

Why do you Trumptards have to lie about every single thing?

[CosmicCowboy]

You somehow think that's a bad idea. :lmao

Stupid is as stupid does. Ignore the science for your blue politics if you want. There are plenty of studies that suggest it helps in small (people size) doses. And it comes in a pill from the pharmacy, not tractor supply. I agree that these idiots choking down the paste intended for a 1200lb horse are stupid.

[Trainwreck2100]

You're exactly right. The vaccinated won't show up at the hospital. :lmao

not a guarantee, just not very likely

[CosmicCowboy]

You're exactly right. The vaccinated won't show up at the hospital. :lmao

It can still fuck you up big time even if it doesn't kill you.

[spurraider21]

Stupid is as stupid does. Ignore the science for your blue politics if you want. There are plenty of studies that suggest it helps in small (people size) doses. And it comes in a pill from the pharmacy, not tractor supply. I agree that these idiots choking down the paste intended for a 1200lb horse are stupid.
do you have a link to those studies as it relates to use of ivermectin for covid-19?

[hater]

When you fucks get covid make sure you tell your doctor you won't take ivermectin because you are a democrat.

They will probably get a new doctor. One that calls them by their gender adjective of choice. :lmao

[CosmicCowboy]

do you have a link to those studies as it relates to use of ivermectin for covid-19?

already posted them in this thread

[DarrinS]

do you have a link to those studies as it relates to use of ivermectin for covid-19?

https://c19early.com/

[koriwhat]

never understood what made people think heartworm medication will cure covid

"I trust the science only if Anderson Cooper tells it to me every night at 8pm cst."


This is the same group that thinks Trump wanted people to inject clorox into their veins. The dishonesty is thick as fuck with this crowd. They will provide extreme exegesis for anything the left says but then lampoon and misquote anything said by the right. It's easy to see the truth isn't the goal.

You hit the nail on its head!


^years after being put on ignore it still responds incessantly :lol

Always! His clogged artery having whale of a wife just doesn't give him the attention he seeks.


People that take horse paste. :lol :lol

Clearly you're a retard... I guess that Nobel Prize for the use of Ivermectin in People just isn't enough to prove it's a med that can cross over and be used on animals like so many other meds out there.

[ChumpDumper]

This is the same group that thinks Trump wanted people to inject clorox into their veins.The group that thought Trump wanted people to inject Clorox into their veins were the people who actually injected Clorox into their veins.

[CosmicCowboy]

The group that thought Trump wanted people to inject Clorox into their veins were the people who actually injected Clorox into their veins.

name one person that injected bleach.

[CosmicCowboy]

name one person that injected bleach.

And Chump again folds like a cheap lawn chair.

[koriwhat]

name one person that injected bleach.

He's a clown, won't and can't name one person who has done it. CumDumpster is a fucking retard of epic proportions!

[koriwhat]

And Chump again folds like a cheap lawn chair.

He's a bitch so what did you expect?

[ChumpDumper]

name one person that injected bleach.Exactly. Now you're getting it.:clap

[DMC]

name one person that injected bleach.

Jeffery Dahmer. OK it wasn't into himself but still.

[spurraider21]

https://c19early.com/
ah thanks. no clinical trials yet though, right?

[SnakeBoy]

Just like HCQ it has other uses and not all Ivermectin, the oral liquid in small dosages, is sold at Tractor Supply Co. I have no experience with either however I find it funny that a lot in this thread, and elsewhere, put down med alts just because their television told them it's strictly for horses just like they lie about everything under the sun.

Most of yall are on a strict regimen of TV tbh and yall, not necessarily you SB, don't trust the Science but instead the Television.


I guess that Nobel Prize for the use of Ivermectin in People just isn't enough to prove it's a med that can cross over and be used on animals like so many other meds out there.

Ivermectin is an amazing anti-parasitic human drug that has saved many many thousands of lives so yes you are correct these libs are lying or stupid when they say it is a horse drug.

As for treating covid with ivermectin the true things that can be said

- there isn't good evidence it helps or doesn't help
- it has some anti inflammatory properties
- it has some anti viral properties
- at approved doses it is a very safe drug

I'm making fun of two specific groups of people:

Those that go to the feed store and try to self medicate based on internet advice

Those like Joe Rogan who say they aren't at risk from covid and don't need the vaccine but freak out and take everything under the sun as soon as they get the sniffles


When you fucks get covid make sure you tell your doctor you won't take ivermectin because you are a democrat.

If my doctor who I trust said take a perfectly safe dose of ivermectin it might help reduce symptoms then I'd say okay. Then I'd ask my doctor wife and she would say maybe it will help maybe it won't, there's not enough evidence yet, but it's a perfectly safe at the correct dose. So I'd take it.

FWIW, randomguy's topic is misinformation. If you shit out the lining of your intestines you would die. Ivermectin can cause gastrointestinal irritation and give you a funky mucousy shit. Too much habenaro salsa can do the same.

[DMC]

A shot of clorox a day keeps teh Grim Reaper at bay


That's why he delegate to his experts, instead of talking out of his ass and recommending injecting clorox...


Maybe they should give him some Clorox intravenously :rollin :lmao :rollin


Just inject clorox bleach...you ll be fine


I like this guy. How did he become such a Trump critic? I thought he was a lifelong republican. :lol

WAPO excerpt from George Conway:



https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/06/george-conway-trump-lashed-out-me-twitter-its-because-he-knows-truth/


MAGATS

step up to the plate and take a few shots of clorox for dear leader today!

Lot of people here injecting clorox into their veins. :lol

[DMC]

ah thanks. no clinical trials yet though, right?

And Philo moves the goalpost just like that. :lol

[hater]

:tu

Horse pills work :tu

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.26.21254377v1

If my shit JJ vax fails Im injecting myself monoclonals and chewing horsepills on day 2 of fever :tu

The Rona is fucked :lol

[spurraider21]

And Philo moves the goalpost just like that. :lol
there is limited utility to retrospective studies. we saw this with HCQ as well. some early promising retrospectives, dick-all after clinical trials

[CosmicCowboy]

there is limited utility to retrospective studies. we saw this with HCQ as well. some early promising retrospectives, dick-all after clinical trials

Then don't take it if your blue team religion forbids it.

[spurraider21]

Then don't take it if your blue team religion forbids it.
:lol waiting for clinical trials or FDA authorization = blue team religion

[hater]

:lol waiting for clinical trials or FDA authorization = blue team religion

But.you did take d experimental vax and are bent over to take the boosters :lmao

[spurraider21]

But.you did take d experimental vax and are bent over to take the boosters :lmao
after clinical trials and/or FDA emergency use authorization :tu

[ChumpDumper]

But.you did take d experimental vax and are bent over to take the boosters :lmao:lol vaccinated anti-vaxxer

[hater]

after clinical trials and/or FDA emergency use authorization :tu

Yup. Emergency. Experimental :tu

[hater]

:lol vaccinated anti-vaxxer

Fake news. Everyone should be free to vax themselves if they want.


They should also be free to chew on horse pills :tu


Lol 1980chump

[hater]

Also idiots dont know that vaccines came about when some dr injected cowpox on some kid :lol

Cow = vaca... vaccine

[ChumpDumper]

Fake newsBut you're against the experimental vaccine you took.:lol

Also idiots dont know that vaccines came about when some dr injected cowpox on some kid :lol

Cow = vaca... vaccine
Everyone knows that.:lol

[hater]

But you're against the experimental vaccine you took.:lol

Who said Im against? Hes laughing at ppl using non FDA.approved shit when he took experimental shit :lol

[Neo.]

Just like HCQ it has other uses and not all Ivermectin, the oral liquid in small dosages, is sold at Tractor Supply Co. I have no experience with either however I find it funny that a lot in this thread, and elsewhere, put down med alts just because their television told them it's strictly for horses just like they lie about everything under the sun.

Most of yall are on a strict regimen of TV tbh and yall, not necessarily you SB, don't trust the Science but instead the Television.

i never once put it down.

i simply asked why people think such a medication is some kind of legitimate way to fight covid. is there some solid evidence to back it?

[ChumpDumper]

Who said Im against? Hes laughing at ppl using non FDA.approved shit when he took experimental shit :lol

FDA approved.

[Neo.]

"I trust the science only if Anderson Cooper tells it to me every night at 8pm cst."

i have never watched anderson cooper in my life. ive heard of him and thats about the extent of it. i have virtually no interest in politics and certainly dont side with any political party in the least. my curiosity of ivermectin usage has nothing to do with politics, right vs left, repub vs dem, etc... i literally could not care less about that crap.

:lmao @ joey who cries about "derailing threads" and people being "judgmental" yet continues to do both things more than arguably any poster on ST

anyways... i honestly am curious what makes people think ivermectin is a legitimate way to battle covid.

[hater]

FDA emergency approved.

Fify

[LkrFan]

Lot of people here injecting clorox into their veins. :lol

:lol

[hater]

Horse pills FTMFW

https://twitter.com/D_MAGA23/status/1433513532365099010?s=19

[Blake]

:lol you've been replying to me all this time

You've even quoted me.:lmao

Why do you Trumptards have to lie about every single thing?

It's easy to see the truth isn't his goal

[Blake]

Horse pills FTMFW

https://twitter.com/D_MAGA23/status/1433513532365099010?s=19

Lol "Danielle MAGA"

Lol "All Israel.com"

A MESSAGE FROM ALL ISRAEL NEWS
Help us educate Christians on a daily basis about what is happening in Israel & the Middle East and why it matters.

[ChumpDumper]

FifySo you're against it.

[Blake]

i have never watched anderson cooper in my life. ive heard of him and thats about the extent of it. i have virtually no interest in politics and certainly dont side with any political party in the least. my curiosity of ivermectin usage has nothing to do with politics, right vs left, repub vs dem, etc... i literally could not care less about that crap.

:lmao @ joey who cries about "derailing threads" and people being "judgmental" yet continues to do both things more than arguably any poster on ST

anyways... i honestly am curious what makes people think ivermectin is a legitimate way to battle covid.

Someone please ask joey where he gets his science news from.

[spurraider21]

Yup. Emergency. Experimental :tu
give emergency authorization for ivermectin because its been shown to work and we'll talk :tu

[SnakeBoy]

give emergency authorization for ivermectin because its been shown to work and we'll talk :tu

wut? It's a fully approved medication

[spurraider21]

wut? It's a fully approved medication
as treatment for covid?

[DarrinS]

anyways... i honestly am curious what makes people think ivermectin is a legitimate way to battle covid.


https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32942671/

[SnakeBoy]

as treatment for covid?

It doesn't need to be. Off label usage is common for most drugs.

Approving for that specific new treatment would just let Merck renew the patent and jack the price. That's usually what happens and what libs usually whine about.

[hater]

wut? It's a fully approved medication

:lol

[DMC]

:lol waiting for clinical trials or FDA authorization = blue team religion

appeal to authority

[DMC]

as treatment for covid?


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[Trainwreck2100]

Horse pills FTMFW

https://twitter.com/D_MAGA23/status/1433513532365099010?s=19

If it's a scamdemic, why do we need any drugs to make it go away?

[koriwhat]

i have never watched anderson cooper in my life. ive heard of him and thats about the extent of it. i have virtually no interest in politics and certainly dont side with any political party in the least. my curiosity of ivermectin usage has nothing to do with politics, right vs left, repub vs dem, etc... i literally could not care less about that crap.

:lmao @ joey who cries about "derailing threads" and people being "judgmental" yet continues to do both things more than arguably any poster on ST

anyways... i honestly am curious what makes people think ivermectin is a legitimate way to battle covid.

Explain how I am "trying" to "derail" this thread bro... Please do explain but like all the others before you I doubt you will or can.

I refuted what you and others said previously and now that's some how equates to "derailing this thread". FOH!

[spurraider21]

appeal to authority
absolutely. but not a fallacious appeal to authority.

[spurraider21]

yabut..yabut..yabut..yabut..yabut..yabut..yabut..
wasnt what i asked for. i asked if the FDA had gvien any authorization, even in an emergency capacity, for ivermectin as treatment for covid

[Neo.]

Explain how I am "trying" to "derail" this thread bro... Please do explain but like all the others before you I doubt you will or can.

I refuted what you and others said previously and now that's some how equates to "derailing this thread". FOH!

what did I say?

[CosmicCowboy]

wasnt what i asked for. i asked if the FDA had gvien any authorization, even in an emergency capacity, for ivermectin as treatment for covid

Wow lets move the goal post again. Ivermectrin is approved by the FDA for use in humans and in pharmacy approved levels is totally safe for humans to use. It us quite common as studies are done for drugs that are technically approved for one thing to be prescribed by a doctor for other things. Many doctors after doing their research are prescribing ivermectrin for covid. Please don't use it if you get covid since it goes against your political talking points. These doctors aren't near as smart as you are.

[Blake]

absolutely. but not a fallacious appeal to authority.

Lol dmc trying to "yabut" with a failed fallacy cry

[Blake]

Wow lets move the goal post again. Ivermectrin is approved by the FDA for use in humans and in pharmacy approved levels is totally safe for humans to use. It us quite common as studies are done for drugs that are technically approved for one thing to be prescribed by a doctor for other things. Many doctors after doing their research are prescribing ivermectrin for covid. Please don't use it if you get covid since it goes against your political talking points. These doctors aren't near as smart as you are.

The AMA ain't not no as smart as you are hyuk


"WASHINGTON, DC – The American Medical Association (AMA), American Pharmacists Association (APhA), and American Society of Health-System Pharmacists (ASHP) strongly oppose the ordering, prescribing, or dispensing of ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19 outside of a clinical trial.

Ivermectin is approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for human use to treat infections caused by internal and external parasites. It is not approved to prevent or treat COVID-19...."

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-apha-ashp-statement-ending-use-ivermectin-treat-covid-19

[Blake]

Seriously why are all you clowns trying to defend this thing? It's insane

[Neo.]

Seriously why are all you clowns trying to defend this thing? It's insane

i still dont understand why no one will give me an answer to my question of why people believe ivermectin is an effective way to battle covid

like im not even trying to troll or anything, i am legitimately curious

[DarrinS]

i still dont understand why no one will give me an answer to my question of why people believe ivermectin is an effective way to battle covid

like im not even trying to troll or anything, i am legitimately curious


Covid is a virus.

Ivermectin has antiviral properties.

[spurraider21]

Wow lets move the goal post again. Ivermectrin is approved by the FDA for use in humans and in pharmacy approved levels is totally safe for humans to use. It us quite common as studies are done for drugs that are technically approved for one thing to be prescribed by a doctor for other things. Many doctors after doing their research are prescribing ivermectrin for covid. Please don't use it if you get covid since it goes against your political talking points. These doctors aren't near as smart as you are.
im not saying ivermectin is inherently so unsafe that we should be worried (unless morons take horse gel) any more than HQC. the question is whether it is actually being used to treat covid. because things do get dangerous when morons use treatments that haven't been demonstrated to work in lieu of actual treatments

[ChumpDumper]

:lol dipshits are overdosing on horse paste and ST Trumptards are semen shielding for them.

[GAustex]

Every time you look at a map of cases there is real low out breaks in sub Sahara Africa
I wonder why

[DarrinS]

:lol dipshits are overdosing on horse paste and ST Trumptards are semen shielding for them.

Don't take veterinary medication.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't take veterinary medication.Stop defending those who do.

[Blake]

i still dont understand why no one will give me an answer to my question of why people believe ivermectin is an effective way to battle covid

like im not even trying to troll or anything, i am legitimately curious

I mean the only thing I can come up with is to own the libs. I'd be glad to hear a legitimate reason too

[DarrinS]

I mean the only thing I can come up with is to own the libs. I'd be glad to hear a legitimate reason too

Covid is a virus.

Ivermectin has antiviral properties.

[Blake]

Covid is a virus.

Ivermectin has antiviral properties.

Seriously, why do you not trust the actual collective medical community opinion on this?

[DarrinS]

Seriously, why do you not trust the actual collective medical community opinion on this?

Lol

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/management/clinical-management/nonhospitalized-adults--therapeutic-management/


Monoclonals (if you qualify), otherwise, Tylenol and fluids.

[boutons_deux]

Seriously why are all you clowns trying to defend this thing? It's insane

insane is where Trash' 75M voters are now. still a minority but the fuck-us-forever Constitution permits minority rule.

[DarrinS]

Ever think about why we gave the very first confirmed covid patient in the US (a 35 y.o. man returning from Wuhan) a $3k dose of Remdesivir?

:lol

[DMC]

Wow lets move the goal post again. Ivermectrin is approved by the FDA for use in humans and in pharmacy approved levels is totally safe for humans to use. It us quite common as studies are done for drugs that are technically approved for one thing to be prescribed by a doctor for other things. Many doctors after doing their research are prescribing ivermectrin for covid. Please don't use it if you get covid since it goes against your political talking points. These doctors aren't near as smart as you are.

How can they be? Your most intelligent years are the mid to late teens and by 30 you're starting to realize how much you don't know. Imagine a doctor at age 50, he's completely dumb.

[DMC]

Lol

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/management/clinical-management/nonhospitalized-adults--therapeutic-management/


Monoclonals (if you qualify), otherwise, Tylenol and fluids.

:lol "supplements"

Just inject an orange or a glass of milk into your veins JAJAJAJAJAJA!!!!

[DMC]

im not saying ivermectin is inherently so unsafe that we should be worried (unless morons take horse gel) any more than HQC. the question is whether it is actually being used to treat covid. because things do get dangerous when morons use treatments that haven't been demonstrated to work in lieu of actual treatments

Do you worry about people getting alcohol poisoning every weekend?

[spurraider21]

Do you worry about people getting alcohol poisoning every weekend?
no. but i'd worry if they took alcohol as treatment for covid in lieu of actual treatment

[DarrinS]

no. but i'd worry if they took alcohol as treatment for covid in lieu of actual treatment

What's the actual treatment?

[spurraider21]

What's the actual treatment?
well, for starters, if people refuse to get vaccinated because they think "well ivermectin will just cure my anyway" thats a big red flag.

as for treatment, arent monoclonal antibodies all the rage now? and have actual emergency use authorization for covid?

[Blake]

Do you worry about people getting alcohol poisoning every weekend?

See, this is a fallacy. Nice work.

[Blake]

Lol

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/management/clinical-management/nonhospitalized-adults--therapeutic-management/


Monoclonals (if you qualify), otherwise, Tylenol and fluids.

So nothing about horse pills.

And next week you'll be back on your soapbox about how worthless the vaccine is.

Lol stupid fringe cult medicine members

[Blake]

"Doctors dismayed by patients who fear coronavirus vaccines but clamor for unproven ivermectin...."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/09/01/ivermectin-covid-treatment/

[DarrinS]

well, for starters, if people refuse to get vaccinated because they think "well ivermectin will just cure my anyway" thats a big red flag.

as for treatment, arent monoclonal antibodies all the rage now? and have actual emergency use authorization for covid?


I pretty much agree with you, but what if you don't qualify for monoclonals?

[Blake]

I pretty much agree with you, but what if you don't qualify for monoclonals?

hOrSe PiLL TiMe

[DarrinS]

Or, what if you live in a shithole country with no vaccines or monoclonals?

[DarrinS]

hOrSe PiLL TiMe

Ivermectin is also a human medicine, dildo.

[Blake]

Or, what if you live in a shithole country with no vaccines or monoclonals?

Lol Darrin going to extreme scenarios for his wonder drug

[Adam Lambert]

I pretty much agree with you, but what if you don't qualify for monoclonals?

I was told monoclonals were free for everyone

[Blake]

Ivermectin is also a human medicine, dildo.

Not for covid, fuckstick

[DMC]

no. but i'd worry if they took alcohol as treatment for covid in lieu of actual treatment

Why?

[DarrinS]

Lol Darrin going to extreme scenarios for his wonder drug

Its not a wonder drug. Its A drug, among many.

Why this sudden media frenzy against Ivermectin? :lol

I wonder what has caused more deaths: Ivermectin or these Vaccines?

I already know the answer.


I'm not anti-vax, as I've already had both.

[DarrinS]

I was told monoclonals were free for everyone

They're free for qualified individuals. You have to be over 65 (I think) or some land whale like whinehole.

[Adam Lambert]

They're free for qualified individuals. You have to be over 65 (I think) or some land whale like whinehole.

So, when you said Joe Rogan got free monoclonal antibodies you were probably wrong. I'm just trying to learn here.

[Blake]

Its not a wonder drug. Its A drug, among many.

Why this sudden media frenzy against Ivermectin? :lol

I wonder what has caused more deaths: Ivermectin or these Vaccines?

I already know the answer.


I'm not anti-vax, as I've already had both.

Lol "media frenzy against ivermectin"

The media is covering the frenzy over buying it, fuckstick. It's flying off the shelves in livestock stores all over the country.

Goddam you're stupid.

[DarrinS]

So, when you said Joe Rogan got free monoclonal antibodies you were probably wrong. I'm just trying to learn here.

I think he can afford it. :lol

[DarrinS]

Not for covid, fuckstick


Lol "media frenzy against ivermectin"

The media is covering the frenzy over buying it, fuckstick. It's flying off the shelves in livestock stores all over the country.

Goddam you're stupid.


Double fucksicks. :lol

[DMC]

:lol so Winehole is more like Blowhole?

[Blake]

Double fucksicks. :lol

Add some more fucksticks, fuckstick.

[Adam Lambert]

I think he can afford it. :lol

That was the point I was making when you said they were free.

Glad we're in agreement now!

[DarrinS]

That was the point I was making when you said they were free.

Glad we're in agreement now!


He probably could've negotiated getting them for free, but why bother.

[weebo]

ivermectin is the new hcq...but go ahead and keep chugging that horse paste until god calls you up to that big beautiful stable up in the sky

[koriwhat]

WTF is this shit?


https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/overseas-guidelines.html#vaccination-program

"All Middle Eastern, Asian, North African, Latin American, and Caribbean refugees should receive presumptive therapy with:

All Middle Eastern, Asian, North African, Latin American, and Caribbean refugees should receive presumptive therapy with:
Albendazole, single dose of 400 mg (200 mg for children 12-23 months)
AND
Ivermectin, two doses 200 mcg/Kg orally once a day for 2 days before departure to the United States."

Not necessarily for the China Virus but interesting to say the least... Horse paste huh?

[Neo.]

Covid is a virus.

Ivermectin has antiviral properties.

so has there been evidence that ivermectin has had success at fighting covid?

[DarrinS]

so has there been evidence that ivermectin has had success at fighting covid?

Nope. Its all a QAnon conspiracy

https://c19early.com

[Neo.]

Nope. Its all a QAnon conspiracy

https://c19early.com

ah. so not a lot of evidence, and highly inconclusive results at best. interesting.

[ElNono]

When you fucks get covid make sure you tell your doctor you won't take ivermectin because you are a democrat.

If the best my doctor can do is Ivermectin, then I’ll probably change doctors…

[spurraider21]

Why?
Let me know when you want to have an adult discussion. If i wanted to deal with a shitposter I’d reach out to snakeboy

[ElNono]

do you have a link to those studies as it relates to use of ivermectin for covid-19?

There was one study earlier in the year which was retracted in June. Since then there was another study basically saying it doesn’t work.

[ElNono]

It really isn’t political at all, at least for me. ‘Following the science’ says Ivermectin is useless against COVID.

There’s simply better treatments out there, like the monoclonals.

[ElNono]

Plus the other problem with this drug in particular is self medication and people getting hurt.

[DarrinS]

It really isn’t political at all, at least for me. ‘Following the science’ says Ivermectin is useless against COVID.

There’s simply better treatments out there, like the monoclonals.


Mostly agree. What do you take if you're a 45 y.o. male with no comorbidities?

[DarrinS]

It really isn’t political at all, at least for me. ‘Following the science’ says Ivermectin is useless against COVID.

I'm willing to change my mind. What is this statement based on?

[ElNono]

Mostly agree. What do you take if you're a 45 y.o. male with no comorbidities?

Aspirin until the doc says otherwise.

[ElNono]

I'm willing to change my mind. What is this statement based on?

I posted about this back in June/July when the only study that claimed Ivermectin worked for COVID was retracted.
On my phone now, but I’ll look up and link the story later

[DarrinS]

I posted about this back in June/July when the only study that claimed Ivermectin worked for COVID was retracted.
On my phone now, but I’ll look up and link the story later

On one retracted study, you determined it was useless?

Ok

[ElNono]

On one retracted study, you determined it was useless?

Ok

No there was a follow up study that claimed it didn’t work. Which pretty much superseded the one and only study that claimed it did work, but was retracted.

[DarrinS]

No there was a follow up study that claimed it didn’t work. Which pretty much superseded the one and only study that claimed it did work, but was retracted.

Oh

Please post it

[DarrinS]

No there was a follow up study that claimed it didn’t work. Which pretty much superseded the one and only study that claimed it did work, but was retracted.

You are probably referring to the "Together trial". They accepted participants late after diagnosis of positive covid19. I think up to 10 days after (I'll have to check).

[ElNono]

Influential Ivermectin Study Accused of 'Totally Faked' Data

"The efficacy of a drug being promoted by rightwing figures worldwide for treating Covid-19 is in serious doubt," reports the Guardian, "after a major study suggesting the treatment is effective against the virus was withdrawn due to 'ethical concerns' (https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-ivermectin-as-covid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns)." The preprint study on the efficacy and safety of ivermectin — a drug used against parasites such as worms and headlice — in treating Covid-19, led by Dr Ahmed Elgazzar from Benha University in Egypt, was published on the Research Square website in November. It claimed to be a randomised control trial, a type of study crucial in medicine because it is considered to provide the most reliable evidence on the effectiveness of interventions due to the minimal risk of confounding factors influencing the results... A medical student in London, Jack Lawrence, was among the first to identify serious concerns about the paper (https://grftr.news/why-was-a-major-study-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19-just-retracted), leading to the retraction... He found the introduction section of the paper appeared to have been almost entirely plagiarised. It appeared that the authors had run entire paragraphs from press releases and websites about ivermectin and Covid-19 through a thesaurus to change key words. "Humorously, this led to them changing 'severe acute respiratory syndrome' to 'extreme intense respiratory syndrome' on one occasion," Lawrence said.

The data also looked suspicious to Lawrence... "In their paper, the authors claim that four out of 100 patients died in their standard treatment group for mild and moderate Covid-19," Lawrence said. "According to the original data, the number was 0, the same as the ivermectin treatment group. In their ivermectin treatment group for severe Covid-19, the authors claim two patients died, but the number in their raw data is four..." Lawrence contacted an Australian chronic disease epidemiologist from the University of Wollongong, Gideon Meyerowitz-Katz, and a data analyst affiliated with Linnaeus University in Sweden who reviews scientific papers for errors (https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018/02/meet-data-thugs-out-expose-shoddy-and-questionable-research), Nick Brown, for help analysing the data and study results more thoroughly... "The main error is that at least 79 of the patient records are obvious clones of other records," Brown told the Guardian. "It's certainly the hardest to explain away as innocent error, especially since the clones aren't even pure copies. There are signs that they have tried to change one or two fields to make them look more natural..."

Meyerowitz-Katz told the Guardian that "this is one of the biggest ivermectin studies out there", and it appeared to him the data was "just totally faked".
Meta-analyses incorporating the "just totally faked" data were then published in Oxford Academic's Open Forum Infectious Diseases and in the American Journal of Therapeutics.

Meanwhile, the Guardian also notes a new (and peer-reviewed) paper that was just published last month in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases (https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab591/6310839). Its finding? Ivermectin is "not a viable option to treat COVID-19 patients".

[DarrinS]

You are probably referring to the "Together trial". They accepted participants late after diagnosis of positive covid19. I think up to 10 days after (I'll have to check).

My bad. Their website says "Adults aged between 18-80 years who have a confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection, with test results within past 72 hours and/or adults who are at increased risk of developing severe COVID-19 disease". But, who knows how long participants waited to get tested.

[ElNono]

That's from mid-july... haven't heard much since on ivermectin... do share if there's anything more recent about it.

[DMC]

Let me know when you want to have an adult discussion. If i wanted to deal with a shitposter I’d reach out to snakeboy

It's an honest question. Why do you care what someone puts in their body only when they have COVID? If someone is going to that length, do you think they're out spreading the virus? If you're just concerned about the person, why not be concerned about them poisoning themselves with alcohol?

I think you just want to validate the "trumptards are dumb lol ivermectin" take since you keep trying to move the goalposts.

It's not like you want an adult conversation.

[DarrinS]

Influential Ivermectin Study Accused of 'Totally Faked' Data


Already addressed and removed from existing meta-analyses.

[DarrinS]

Meh,

I'm sure Merck will develop something that works. I don't have a dog in this hunt.

I've never taken Ivermectin. The witch hunt against therapeutics is bizarre to me.

Here's your next medicine to hate: Fluvoximine

[ElNono]

Already addressed and removed from existing meta-analyses.

There's a link to the superseding, peer-reviewed paper. I don't know if that's the "Together trial" that you mentioned, I certainly can't find what you quoted on the study's webpage.

Ultimately, as far as I know, that's basically the standing study when it comes to Ivermectin.

That's exactly why I said that if you "follow the science", then Ivermectin is "not a viable option to treat COVID-19 patients".

[DMC]

Meh,

I'm sure Merck will develop something that works. I don't have a dog in this hunt.

I've never taken Ivermectin. The witch hunt against therapeutics is bizarre to me.

Here's your next medicine to hate: Fluvoximine

It's a partisan concept to say "I ain't puttin' that shit in my body" and laugh at the other side for saying the same thing while they laugh at you.

[ElNono]

Meh,

I'm sure Merck will develop something that works. I don't have a dog in this hunt.

I've never taken Ivermectin. The witch hunt against therapeutics is bizarre to me.

Here's your next medicine to hate: Fluvoximine

I don't have a dog in this hunt either, and I don't think it's witch hunt against therapeutics.

Simply, some therapeutics that were thought to help do not, but for some reason they became a political issue and people keep pushing it.

[DarrinS]

Or Fluoxetine (Prozac)

[DarrinS]

I don't have a dog in this hunt either, and I don't think it's witch hunt against therapeutics.

Simply, some therapeutics that were thought to help do not, but for some reason they became a political issue and people keep pushing it.

Fauci's NIH still conducting clinical trials on Ivermectin and Fluvoximine. You should contact them and tell them to stop.

[spurraider21]

It's an honest question. Why do you care what someone puts in their body only when they have COVID? If someone is going to that length, do you think they're out spreading the virus? If you're just concerned about the person, why not be concerned about them poisoning themselves with alcohol?

I think you just want to validate the "trumptards are dumb lol ivermectin" take since you keep trying to move the goalposts.

It's not like you want an adult conversation.
I don’t want people dying for dumb reasons. I also would like the pandemic for be under control to the greatest degree possible so we can return to normalcy. Run of the alcohol poisoning isn’t contagious or a public health threat

[DarrinS]

I don’t want people dying for dumb reasons. I also would like the pandemic for be under control to the greatest degree possible so we can return to normalcy. Run of the alcohol poisoning isn’t contagious or a public health threat

Everyone will get covid. Unfortunately, now everyone will get delta. Should've had that OG variant when you had the chance.

[Monostradamus]

r/HermanCainAward is some damn good schadenfreude content tbh

[Spurtacular]

r/HermanCainAward is some damn good schadenfreude content tbh

HERMAN CAIN WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY IF NOT FOR FAKE SNIFFLES!!!

[Spurtacular]

Everyone will get covid. Unfortunately, now everyone will get delta.

:lol

[hater]

I don’t want people dying for dumb reasons. I also would like the pandemic for be under control to the greatest degree possible so we can return to normalcy. Run of the alcohol poisoning isn’t contagious or a public health threat

Ppl die for dumb reasons every day nig.

Good luck waiting on the pandemic to be under control so u can have some degree of normalcy. You gone b waiting a looong time :lmao

[Blake]

WTF is this shit?


https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/overseas-guidelines.html#vaccination-program

"All Middle Eastern, Asian, North African, Latin American, and Caribbean refugees should receive presumptive therapy with:

All Middle Eastern, Asian, North African, Latin American, and Caribbean refugees should receive presumptive therapy with:
Albendazole, single dose of 400 mg (200 mg for children 12-23 months)
AND
Ivermectin, two doses 200 mcg/Kg orally once a day for 2 days before departure to the United States."

Not necessarily for the China Virus but interesting to say the least... Horse paste huh?

Retard, it's the prescription for parasites. It always has been.

[Blake]

It's a partisan concept to say "I ain't puttin' that shit in my body" and laugh at the other side for saying the same thing while they laugh at you.

It's a medical community concept. It's the right that wants to polarize it as a lib concept.

[American Citizen]

It's a medical community concept. It's the right that wants to polarize it as a lib concept.

You're saying liberals are against the jab too?

:lolK

[ElNono]

Fauci's NIH still conducting clinical trials on Ivermectin and Fluvoximine. You should contact them and tell them to stop.

The NIH isn't politicizing this. They're telling people not to jump the gun on unproven therapies.

Sounds like the sensible thing to do.

[hater]

The NIH isn't politicizing this. They're telling people not to jump the gun on unproven therapies.

Sounds like the sensible thing to do.

Kinda like jumping the gun on booster shots huh

[ElNono]

Kinda like jumping the gun on booster shots huh

I criticized this administration about getting in the way of the FDA on booster shots. Same criticism I levied when HQC was emergency-approved.

That said, I don't have a problem with booster shots. There's nothing novel about them. We get booster shots a number of times on a regular vaccine schedule. Hepatitis B, DTaP, Polio, MMR, Varicella, Flu, etc, we get boosters of all of those.

[spurraider21]

Everyone will get covid. Unfortunately, now everyone will get delta. Should've had that OG variant when you had the chance.
hope people are vaccinated before they get it

[spurraider21]

Ppl die for dumb reasons every day nig.

Good luck waiting on the pandemic to be under control so u can have some degree of normalcy. You gone b waiting a looong time :lmao
not in ways that are contagious or public health threats

[hater]

I criticized this administration about getting in the way of the FDA on booster shots. Same criticism I levied when HQC was emergency-approved.

That said, I don't have a problem with booster shots. There's nothing novel about them. We get booster shots a number of times on a regular vaccine schedule. Hepatitis B, DTaP, Polio, MMR, Varicella, Flu, etc, we get boosters of all of those.

Was talking about unlimited shots at a bi or tri yearly basis. Yes there are a couple vaxes where you get a booster a few years later. This is not that


No vax works this way ever. Especially mandated one.

[hater]

hope people are vaccinated before they get it

Not gonnq happen. You gonna have to accept and live w this virus like everyone else.

[hater]

not in ways that are contagious or public health threats

Sure they do. All the time.

[Thread]

Not gonnq happen. You gonna have to accept and live w this virus like everyone else.

Just as President Trump told us we would 2 years ago come January.

[spurraider21]

Sure they do. All the time.
somebody dying of alcohol poisoning is neither contagious nor a threat to public health

[spurraider21]

Not gonnq happen. You gonna have to accept and live w this virus like everyone else.
i guess i just want less people do die and you're ok with more people dying, even though most of those deaths are preventable

[Thread]

i guess i just want less people do die and you're ok with more people dying, even though most of those deaths are preventable

Please. You were pleased as punch with the first 400k on President Trump. You didn't get your back up till Biden started taking on water.

[spurraider21]

Please. You were pleased as punch with the first 400k on President Trump. You didn't get your back up till Biden started taking on water.
how would you know? you were hiding in your cuck shed the whole time

[hater]

somebody dying of alcohol poisoning is neither contagious nor a threat to public health

Influenza, HIV, TB, Cholera, Hepatitis, pnemonia. Should I keep going? :lol

[hater]

i guess i just want less people do die and you're ok with more people dying, even though most of those deaths are preventable

But we are preventing most deaths. We have decent immune booster shot(some ppl call it vaccine :lol), antibody treatments and great therapeutics.

[spurraider21]

Influenza, HIV, TB, Cholera, Hepatitis, pnemonia. Should I keep going? :lol
and we have flu vaccines.

HIV? :lmao yeah. i remember that time i walked into a restaurant, somebody coughed, and i caught HIV. we have vaccines for Hep B. how many cholera cases are there in the US? these are terrible examples

[hater]

and we have flu vaccines.

HIV? :lmao yeah. i remember that time i walked into a restaurant, somebody coughed, and i caught HIV. we have vaccines for Hep B. how many cholera cases are there in the US? these are terrible examples

We dont have influenza vaccine.

They are all possible fatal communicable diseases. Some more dangerous than covid. Sorry to break it to you.

[Winehole23]

We dont have influenza vaccine.:lol

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[Winehole23]

every goddam year we have a new one, hater

[RandomGuy]

https://www.insider.com/oklahomas-emergency-rooms-are-clogged-with-people-overdosing-on-ivermectin-2021-9
So.... Oklahoma is dealing with a serious outbreak.....






Of stupidity

[hater]

every goddam year we have a new one, hater

More than one
Thus we dont have a vaccine:

The CDC estimates that an average of 36,000 people died of the flu each year over the past decade. The worst recent flu season was 2017-2018, when 61,000 people died from the flu.Mar 19, 2021

[Winehole23]

vaccines =/= a vaccine

hater stands on the singular/plural distinction

:lmao