Who would have been Finals MVP if Spurs won in 2013?

[gospursgojas]

Torturing myself and watching game 6 replay right now on NBATV.

Parker hit huge shots. Tim lead team in scoring.

[TD 21]

Adande said years ago on either the BS Report or Lowe Post that he had one of the 7 votes, they were already in and it was going to Duncan.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Duncan.

[Leetonidas]

TD and it isn't close

[Chinook]

Depends on how the Spurs won. Had they won in 6 with Green lighting up from three again, he would've gotten it. In that same vein, any of the Big Three would've gotten it had they dominated to close out the series.

[John B]

Depends on how the Spurs won. Had they won in 6 with Green lighting up from three again, he would've gotten it. In that same vein, any of the Big Three would've gotten it had they dominated to close out the series.

Yup Green was pretty amazing that series tbh

[LittleCriminal]

The San Antonio Spurs lost in 2013!! Get over it!! Geez.

[Dex]

Depends on how the Spurs won. Had they won in 6 with Green lighting up from three again, he would've gotten it. In that same vein, any of the Big Three would've gotten it had they dominated to close out the series.

This. If Danny Green hadn't gone cold, Spurs probably win Game 6 and he gets FMVP.

After that, I think it's a tough battle between Duncan and Parker. Duncan had the better stats and more steady series...but Parker hit a lot of big shots, especially in Game 1 and Game 6.

Either way, it will always be a what-if because of Manu's turnovers in Game 6, two missed free throws, 1 missed rebound, and Pop deciding to bench Duncan.

[paperboy77]

Still think Manu shoulda won the 05 FMVP. A case could have also been made for him in 14.

[Seventyniner]

Duncan imo.

And I'm still in the camp who says Pop was absolutely right to take Duncan out at the end of game 6.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Adande said years ago on either the BS Report or Lowe Post that he had one of the 7 votes, they were already in and it was going to Duncan.


He was awesome in that series and deserved the MVP.

I wonder how history would have been rewritten had they won in 2013. Winning a Finals MVP in three separate decades would have been pretty awesome.

[OldMan88]

The MVP for Miami should have been the idiot that said to bring out the crowd control rope.

[Dirks_Finale]

Danny Green had he kept hitting, tbh. Crazy to think a role player like that was even in the conversation. A testament to the spur's rock solid system at the time.

[MultiTroll]

Duncan easily.
When defense is factored in.

[Brazil]

Duncan tbh.. he deserved it also in 14

[Brazil]

Danny Green had he kept hitting, tbh. Crazy to think a role player like that was even in the conversation. A testament to the spur's rock solid system at the time.

ala iguodala in 15 ? nah tbh..

[james evans]

Duncan, but that series was over after game 5 when Parker decided to play for the finals mvp and ginobili along with popovich got the call to throw the series.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

duncan should have 6 finals mvps

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

giving kawhi the mvp in 14 was fucking bullshit even if he didn't turn out to be a grade A buttfucker

[timtonymanu]

ala iguodala in 15 ? nah tbh..

Iguodala was an all-star caliber player and the franchise leader in Philly though before his time in Golden State. LDN would have been the most unorthodox Finals MVP of all time, but many reports seem to point to Timmy getting it that year if they won.

[szkorhetz]

Duncan.

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[cd98]

Still think Manu shoulda won the 05 FMVP. A case could have also been made for him in 14.

2014 was all Parker. He had a matchup that the Cavs could do nothing about and he beat up the Cavs time and again. Other guys played great, obviously, because it was a sweep, but that was the year Tim and Manu handed the reins over to Parker to dominate.

[Uriel]

Ginobili got fouled by Bosh in the waning seconds of regulation. The Spurs were robbed.

[Brazil]

Iguodala was an all-star caliber player and the franchise leader in Philly though before his time in Golden State. LDN would have been the most unorthodox Finals MVP of all time, but many reports seem to point to Timmy getting it that year if they won.

Andre was 31 y/o in 2015. Dude was scoring like 7 ppg 10% usage that year.. more role player than Danny. Probably odds in Vegas for Danny to be mvp were much much higher than Andre :lol

[Chinook]

Green averaged 18/4/1/1/2 in the first five games of the 2013 Finals. He was excellent on both ends. The suggestion that he would not have deserved to win had he done that in a decisive Game Six win is not well founded. You could've made the argument for Duncan, but it was definitely "close".

[lefty]

Get over yourselves

[TD 21]

He was awesome in that series and deserved the MVP.

I wonder how history would have been rewritten had they won in 2013. Winning a Finals MVP in three separate decades would have been pretty awesome.

Yeah, maybe the revisionst history national media might not have pretended the "beautiful game" era was the Pop and Scumbag show and actually gave the three best players their due instead.



Andre was 31 y/o in 2015. Dude was scoring like 7 ppg 10% usage that year.. more role player than Danny. Probably odds in Vegas for Danny to be mvp were much much higher than Andre :lol

Iguodala at least provided secondary play making.

As good as Green was through the first 5 games, a role player (like '14 Scumbag) should never win Finals MVP.

[Brazil]

Green averaged 18/4/1/1/2 in the first five games of the 2013 Finals. He was excellent on both ends. The suggestion that he would not have deserved to win had he done that in a decisive Game Six win is not well founded. You could've made the argument for Duncan, but it was definitely "close".

he would not have deserved it.. most valuable player in this final was Tim and no it was not particularly close. Give me a break with Green already. It was definitely closer in 14 with fuckyou Leonard tho but in 14 Tim deserved it too

[paperboy77]

2014 was all Parker. He had a matchup that the Cavs could do nothing about and he beat up the Cavs time and again. Other guys played great, obviously, because it was a sweep, but that was the year Tim and Manu handed the reins over to Parker to dominate.

The Cavs were in 07. I'm talking about the Beautiful Game Spurs in 14. KL was named FMVP.

[Chinook]

he would not have deserved it.. most valuable player in this final was Tim and no it was not particularly close. Give me a break with Green already. It was definitely closer in 14 with fuckyou Leonard tho but in 14 Tim deserved it too

Give yourself a break. We all love Duncan, but Tim put the team on his back in the latter two games. That's what created the gap before that, Green was the storyline, both from his threes and his defense.

[Budkin]

Ginobili got fouled by Bosh in the waning seconds of regulation. The Spurs were robbed.

Yeah, he got mugged. I still remember a tweet from Freddie Coleman actually mocking Manu for "trying to get a call" and being like, "too bad!"

[SupremeGuy]

TP screwed us because he didn't want Green to win FMVP tbh.

[Brazil]

TP screwed us because he didn't want Green to win FMVP tbh.

:lol

[Brazil]

Give yourself a break. We all love Duncan, but Tim put the team on his back in the latter two games. That's what created the gap before that, Green was the storyline, both from his threes and his defense.

:lol oh so Green was finals MVP the first 5 games... so he deserved the mvp based on what ? 5>2 ? Is there anything that Green did better than Duncan during this serie ? :lol the first five games... you are right tho he played well the first 5 and went totally MIA last 2. Question here was if Spurs win who get the MVP ? you give the MVP to a dude that shat the bed last two games like 2/19 shooting, 0 assist, -12 on near 80 mn played because he played slightly better than Tim Duncan (3 more ppg and what ?) who last two games scored 54 pts on 21/39 +18, during the 5 first.

:lol storyline of 5 games out of 7 smh

[Brazil]

also, I get the if the Spurs won in 6 games with Green had a monster game... that's a lot of ifs. Game 6 Green was not just pedestrian dude was a disaster. Game 6 Parker is +8, Tim +16 ?! Green -12 shooting 1/7 a zombie out there, Duncan scored 30 that night, 17 rebounds. Now I can go also to the road of imagine Duncan was just not great but stratospheric smh

[BatManu20]

Ginobili got fouled by Bosh in the waning seconds of regulation. The Spurs were robbed.


So did Danny Green on his 3-point attempt. Clear, blatant body foul. That’s called 100% of the time in today’s NBA. Refs decided to swallow their whistle.



https://c.tenor.com/VGNh8qFdcHQAAAAC/chris-bosh-danny-green.gif

[Ice009]

So did Danny Green on his 3-point attempt. Clear, blatant body foul. That’s called 100% of the time in today’s NBA. Refs decided to swallow their whistle.



https://c.tenor.com/VGNh8qFdcHQAAAAC/chris-bosh-danny-green.gif

We got screwed over any which way at the end of that game. I knew they were fouls at the time. I never went back to watch it as I was too angry (still am any time I see footage like the above). When was the foul on Manu? At the end of regulation or was it the overtime?

Lebron, no fucking way do I want him getting any more rings. He doesn't deserve shit. He has one of ours and also has one of Duncan's finals MVPs.

[kht]

So did Danny Green on his 3-point attempt. Clear, blatant body foul. That’s called 100% of the time in today’s NBA. Refs decided to swallow their whistle.



https://c.tenor.com/VGNh8qFdcHQAAAAC/chris-bosh-danny-green.gif

What kind of dumbass play was this anyways...

[Chinook]

:lol oh so Green was finals MVP the first 5 games... so he deserved the mvp based on what ? 5>2 ? Is there anything that Green did better than Duncan during this serie ? :lol the first five games... you are right tho he played well the first 5 and went totally MIA last 2. Question here was if Spurs win who get the MVP ? you give the MVP to a dude that shat the bed last two games like 2/19 shooting, 0 assist, -12 on near 80 mn played because he played slightly better than Tim Duncan (3 more ppg and what ?) who last two games scored 54 pts on 21/39 +18, during the 5 first.

:lol storyline of 5 games out of 7 smh


also, I get the if the Spurs won in 6 games with Green had a monster game... that's a lot of ifs. Game 6 Green was not just pedestrian dude was a disaster. Game 6 Parker is +8, Tim +16 ?! Green -12 shooting 1/7 a zombie out there, Duncan scored 30 that night, 17 rebounds. Now I can go also to the road of imagine Duncan was just not great but stratospheric smh

The question wasn't "Who was the best player for the Spurs in the 2013 Finals?" That's how you're answering it, because you're looking at what actually happened and picking from that. But what actually happened is that the Spurs lost, and the loser doesn't get a fMVP. So at some point, you have to change the timeline. If you change it at Ray Allen's shot in Game Six or Duncan's miss in Game Seven, you can make a strong case for Duncan. If you play those two games over again, then it opens up, because Green, Duncan and Parker all had cases going into that game. Duncan pulled away in the real world, because the Heat changed their entire defense to stop Green from shooting. It's not surprising that Tim had his two best scoring games once he became a lower priority to check. But if the Heat just didn't do that, and Game Six was just another game in the series that the Spurs won, Green had the storyline and the numbers to get the award.

And you think that's silly, but then the next two fMVPs were also awarded to role-players as opposed to the stars on their teams, so. Like it or not, fMVP isn't the same thing as "best player". It's something voted on by the media, and the "storylines" you mock matter.

[Chinook]

What kind of dumbass play was this anyways...

Pop doesn't get enough shit for his end-of-game plays. The Spurs' game at the end of Game Seven in 2015 was also terrible.

[Down Under]

Definitely Duncan. His 25 points in the first half of game 6, combined with recency bias (final game) & the American fixation with stars, would've easily seen him get it IMO.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Duncan was the fucking powertrain of the franchise. He deserved every single finals MVP and I count 2007, 2013 and 2014 as being stolen from him.

We saw what happened when Duncan left. The wheels fell off of San Antonio.

[Brazil]

The question wasn't "Who was the best player for the Spurs in the 2013 Finals?" That's how you're answering it, because you're looking at what actually happened and picking from that. But what actually happened is that the Spurs lost, and the loser doesn't get a fMVP. So at some point, you have to change the timeline. If you change it at Ray Allen's shot in Game Six or Duncan's miss in Game Seven, you can make a strong case for Duncan. If you play those two games over again, then it opens up, because Green, Duncan and Parker all had cases going into that game. Duncan pulled away in the real world, because the Heat changed their entire defense to stop Green from shooting. It's not surprising that Tim had his two best scoring games once he became a lower priority to check. But if the Heat just didn't do that, and Game Six was just another game in the series that the Spurs won, Green had the storyline and the numbers to get the award.

And you think that's silly, but then the next two fMVPs were also awarded to role-players as opposed to the stars on their teams, so. Like it or not, fMVP isn't the same thing as "best player". It's something voted on by the media, and the "storylines" you mock matter.

well if we win in 6 Allen missed his shot -> duncan mvp
if we win in 7 -> duncan mvp

Duncan was the best player that serie and is enough of a story to get dat trophy imho

[John B]

Iguodala was an all-star caliber player and the franchise leader in Philly though before his time in Golden State. LDN would have been the most unorthodox Finals MVP of all time, but many reports seem to point to Timmy getting it that year if they won.

If Curry never win another ring, Dubs will forever hate that call. Curry not getting a single Finals MVP :lol the guy that put Dubs back and revolutionized, for better or worse, the modern NBA.

[DeRozan m8]

The San Antonio Spurs lost in 2013!! Get over it!! Geez.

How about stfu tbh

[K...]

If Curry never win another ring, Dubs will forever hate that call. Curry not getting a single Finals MVP :lol the guy that put Dubs back and revolutionized, for better or worse, the modern NBA.

season mvp is way way more important so i don't think it matters.

[John B]

season mvp is way way more important so i don't think it matters.
I think you start counting those accolades when you’re already talking about top 10 or 15 players all time. Those add up.

[buttsR4rebounding]

https://twitter.com/sheaserrano/status/1439953673971437570?s=10

It is a Holy Day in Spursland.

[Dirks_Finale]

So did Danny Green on his 3-point attempt. Clear, blatant body foul. That’s called 100% of the time in today’s NBA. Refs decided to swallow their whistle.



https://c.tenor.com/VGNh8qFdcHQAAAAC/chris-bosh-danny-green.gif

Stuff like that is usually not called at the end of post season games, tbh.

I do think the play where Allen stripped Manu was a clear foul that should have been called no matter what the situation is.

[xellos88330]

I think it would be Tim Duncan. Danny Green was huge in that series, but playoff Timmy is hard to upstage.

[TimDunkem]

Definitely not Manu, eh?

[DAF86]

Easily Duncan.

[Gooshie]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarankfinalsrayallen/best-nba-finals-games-ray-allen-rescues-miami-heat

“ And I always wondered whose name showed up on the most ballots that Frank counted, who would have been the Finals Most Valuable Player if Allen had missed that shot and the ropes had been lifted and Bill Russell had handed over the trophy that bears his name.

I finally learned the answer this week.

It would have been Tim Duncan.”