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RandomGuy
09-15-2021, 12:47 PM
A recipe for violence. Make up shit about ANTIFA, lather rinse, repeat.
Right out of the 1920's and 30's era fascist playbooks. Predictable at least.

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Robert Evans
Tue, September 14, 2021, 1:21 PM
Protest City - Credit: Rian Dundon for Rolling Stone
If you want a vision of our nation’s future, you can find it in the mace-soaked streets of Portland, Oregon. The City of Roses put it all on display on a recent Sunday in August, when the Proud Boys, an extremist group whose purpose, according to their founder, is to do violence to their political enemies, gathered in Northeast Portland. Downtown, hundreds of left-wing demonstrators gathered in anticipation of the Proud Boys’ arrival. Things got ugly at both sites. In the northeast, the Proud Boys flipped a van and beat a man bloody while he sat in a parked truck. There were paintball-gun fights and, of course, mace. Downtown, one right-wing agitator allegedly fired a handgun into a crowd of anti-fascists, at least one of whom returned fire. Prior to the rally, Mayor Ted Wheeler had advised citizens to “Choose Love.” After the shooting, local activists responded with a slogan of their own: “Choose level IV” — body armor.

Clashes are increasingly part of daily life in Portland, a city that, by the looks of it, is the nation’s leader in per capita ownership of body armor and gas masks. But while it would be easy to write this off as ‘Portland being Portland’ — a city George H.W. Bush nicknamed “Little Beirut” — that would be a mistake. The bloody tactics workshopped in Portland have already cropped up around the country, from Charlottesville to anti-mask protests to January 6th. The Proud Boys have no intention of going away, their critics have no intention of backing down, and where this ends is anyone’s guess. As U.S. representative and far-right extremist Paul Gosar put it at an Oath Keeper gathering when asked about a potential second civil war: “We’re in it. We just haven’t started shooting each other yet.”

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Deep Ties Between Local Republican Party and the Far Right
Xander Almeida has been a member of the Multnomah County Republican Party since 2008. Almeida first became aware of the influence militant groups had on the local Republican Party in 2017, when he received an email warning him about “antifa” threats to a planned parade.

“And [the MCRP] said, don’t worry. We will get the three percenters out,” Almeida tells Rolling Stone. He provided the official notes from a June 26th, 2017 meeting, which include a proposed resolution that, “the MCRP may utilize volunteers from the Oregon Three Percenters, Oath Keepers, and other security groups.” The resolution passed.

None of their meetings have ever been attacked by anti-fascists, but the MCRP remains deeply worried about the possibility of such an assault. In May 2021 they hired a Proud Boy affiliate to provide security at a meeting where they voted to recall party chair Stephen Lloyd. The recall petition slammed Lloyd for calling for more diversity within the party and alleged that his attempt to make meetings more open to the public put local Republicans at risk from Rose City Antifa, the oldest-named “antifa” organization in the United States.

For his part, Almeida now protests with Portland anti-fascists, including Rose City Antifa, against Proud Boys and other anti-democratic extremists. He is still a registered Republican, but says that he has felt “less and less” conservative in recent years. He says he feels alienated by his former ideological allies. When we met on August 22nd, he wore a helmet, motorcycle pads, and a respirator.

Portland: The Northwest’s Friendly Proving Ground
Since it’s rare for right-wing militants to face severe penalties for engaging in violence, many have come to see Portland as a proving ground and a place where they can test tactics in a friendly climate.

Tusitala “Tiny” Toese, a notorious brawler who has been affiliated with both the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer, was jailed last year for assaulting an anti-fascist bystander. Toese was still legally prohibited from attending protests when he went to an August 22nd street fight. Police took no action. When we reached out the Portland Police Bureau for comment, a spokesman responded that it was the court’s duty to monitor someone’s actions before trial, not the cops. “That is not something we actively track,” the spokesperson said. “If anyone is aware that someone is violating their pretrial conditions, they’re encouraged to notify the court so the court can impose appropriate sanctions.”

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Rest of the rather long article here:
https://news.yahoo.com/portland-oregon-ground-zero-violent-182117395.html

Trill Clinton
09-15-2021, 12:47 PM
I thought Portland was burned to the ground? Its still standing?

Ef-man
09-15-2021, 12:53 PM
I thought Portland was burned to the ground? Its still standing?

You mean poster B lied? Shocking!

RandomGuy
09-15-2021, 12:56 PM
I thought Portland was burned to the ground? Its still standing?

Eyup.

Seems like it is the place of choice for the most violent elements of the far-right. Their version of Afghanistan vis a vis al Qaeda.

Dunno. It sure seems to me like we are heading for escalations, until law enforcement takes the threat seriously.

Given that LE is often sympathetic or even part of the RWNJ cults, I am not sure what will stop the escalation.

Adam Lambert
09-15-2021, 12:59 PM
If either side stood down and let the other side make a mockery of themselves, this wouldn't be an issue. Instead it's a bunch of retarded cosplay fighters doing an endless mosh pit for lack of better things to do.

They're codependent.

DMC
09-15-2021, 01:12 PM
Portland matters now.

SnakeBoy
09-15-2021, 01:14 PM
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koriwhat
09-15-2021, 01:15 PM
Make up shit about ANTIFA, lather rinse, repeat.

You're not the intellectual that you prop yourself up to be tbh. You and the weak fucks in antifa are a bunch of fucking pussies!

pgardn
09-15-2021, 01:18 PM
1432105401227505664

Two groups of attention starved losers.

DMC
09-15-2021, 01:24 PM
Two groups of attention starved losers.

One of them is getting medical attention

pgardn
09-15-2021, 01:26 PM
One of them is getting medical attention

So we have a winner!

SnakeBoy
09-15-2021, 01:30 PM
I just wish they would start working out so the fights will be better

pgardn
09-15-2021, 01:33 PM
I just wish they would start working out so the fights will be better

We have a clear winner!
Conservatives riot in a more vicious manner.
Imagine antifa attacking the Capitol, a laugher.

CNN
09-15-2021, 02:26 PM
In Papua New Guinea, some communities believe that semen provides sexual maturation to the younger men of the tribe. The tribes believe that the semen of older men can bestow manliness and wisdom to the younger men and for this reason, the younger men fellate their elders in order to receive their authority and powers.

Trainwreck2100
09-15-2021, 02:53 PM
I thought Portland was burned to the ground? Its still standing?

Are you sure you're not thinking of :cry Chicago :cry

Adam Lambert
09-15-2021, 03:02 PM
Portland matters now.

Portland exists now and hasn't been burned to the ground now.

DMC
09-15-2021, 04:13 PM
I just wish they would start working out so the fights will be better

Street Beefs could make a fortune.

DMC
09-15-2021, 04:15 PM
Portland exists now and hasn't been burned to the ground now.

You were fine with Portland being vandalized, zoned and taken over by Antifa. As soon as opposition shows, now you act like butter wouldn't melt in your fuckin' mouths.

ChumpDumper
09-15-2021, 04:17 PM
:lmao "taken over"

Seriously, did DMC's wife leave him or something?

DMC
09-15-2021, 04:21 PM
^lol postbot

Adam Lambert
09-15-2021, 04:22 PM
You were fine with Portland being vandalized, zoned and taken over by Antifa. As soon as opposition shows, now you act like butter wouldn't melt in your fuckin' mouths.

I'm just as fine with whatever is happening there now, except insofar as it comes up in hysterical incel claims about the world burning.

ChumpDumper
09-15-2021, 04:24 PM
lol DMinCel

DMC
09-15-2021, 04:27 PM
I'm just as fine with whatever is happening there now, except insofar as it comes up in hysterical incel claims about the world burning.

Yet here you are SIMPing for the OP who is crying about it. Go figure. Typical poster B shit.

DMC
09-15-2021, 04:29 PM
Left wing Poster A makes sloppy, broad brush comment, gets called out.
Left wing Poster A makes a sloppy retort in defense
Left wing Poster B shows up and makes a different defense, gets called out for the original claim
Left wing Poster B denies ever making the original claim, even though poster B is defending it
Left wing Poster C shows up, defends original claim, defends poster B
Left wing Poster C gets called out, denies caring about the original claim, denies supporting Poster B, still wants a back and forth about the original claim.
Left wing Poster D shows up, posts a strawman meme about the attack on the original claim
The responses pretty much cease because of the web of shit that's developed,
Left wing Poster E calls fold

rinse and repeat

My bad, you'd be poster C :lol

Adam Lambert
09-15-2021, 04:43 PM
Yet here you are SIMPing for the OP who is crying about it. Go figure. Typical poster B shit.

When did I defend the OP?

My first post is that both the PB's and Antifa are retarded.

You're so used to teamwork from simping for Derp and Chris that you can't even see it when people on the left have a variety of takes.

Adam Lambert
09-15-2021, 04:46 PM
Left wing Poster A makes sloppy, broad brush comment, gets called out.
Left wing Poster A makes a sloppy retort in defense
Left wing Poster B shows up and makes a different defense, gets called out for the original claim
Left wing Poster B denies ever making the original claim, even though poster B is defending it
Left wing Poster C shows up, defends original claim, defends poster B
Left wing Poster C gets called out, denies caring about the original claim, denies supporting Poster B, still wants a back and forth about the original claim.
Left wing Poster D shows up, posts a strawman meme about the attack on the original claim
The responses pretty much cease because of the web of shit that's developed,
Left wing Poster E calls fold

rinse and repeat

My bad, you'd be poster C :lol


You think about this kind of thing a lot.

DMC
09-15-2021, 05:01 PM
You think about this kind of thing a lot.

It's my shit. Get your own.

Adam Lambert
09-15-2021, 05:18 PM
We agree that it's shit.

pgardn
09-15-2021, 07:22 PM
But we got:

Proud Boys > Antifa

Big win for the right in a fight, its all good.
I guess... put the proud boys in CHICAGO. Its always Chicago.
You win and you step up into a new weight division.

lets go.

DMC
09-15-2021, 09:03 PM
We agree that it's shit.

Yet you cited it.

boutons_deux
10-08-2021, 12:41 PM
Internal review shows Trump’s DHS concocted bogus intelligence blaming antifa for violence

Donald Trump sent an army of contracted goons (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/22/1962859/-DHS-forces-in-Portland-drive-increase-in-violence-as-they-proactively-grab-people-off-the-streets)from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in to the city of Portland, Oregon, in the summer of 2020 to arrest citizens protesting against police brutality—

summarily sweeping people off the street on the pretext of a kind of preventative arrest based on

groundless speculation that they were “antifa” conspiring to “burn down our cities,”

as Trump put it—that it was an outrage against the Constitution and the rule of law.

“The report was a stunning analysis of the incompetence and mismanagement and abuse of power during the summer of 2020,”

senior DHS leaders attempted to politicize intelligence

in order to support Trump’s claims that a massive “antifa” conspiracy was behind the many anti-police protests around the nation,

but particularly so in Portland. The same leaders pressured subordinates to illegally search phones, and when legal staff objected, sought to cut them out of the discussion.

A team of open source intelligence collectors, tasked with analyzing information obtained from public sources, also

created dossiers on protesters and journalists—which they called “baseball cards”—despite having no clear connections to domestic terrorism or security threats.

“The report documents shocking, coordinated efforts by our government to abuse its power and to invade liberty in violation of the Constitution,”

“In Portland, we were concerned that

the government unconstitutionally collected information, including through the illegal search of protestors’ cellphones last summer.

This report confirms that was their intent.”

between June 4 and Aug. 31, DHS sent at least 755 officers—

from agencies that ranged from Federal Protective Service to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, as well as U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Secret Service, and U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis personnel

Another protester—a Navy veteran who was attempting to speak with the DHS officers—was brutally beaten with batons (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/us/portland-protests-navy-christopher-david.html), breaking his hand.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/10/7/2056752/-Portland-invasion-by-Trump-s-DHS-goons-was-an-incompetent-shambles-internal-review-finds

Thread
10-08-2021, 12:45 PM
Internal review shows Trump’s DHS concocted bogus intelligence blaming antifa for violence

Donald Trump sent an army of contracted goons (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/22/1962859/-DHS-forces-in-Portland-drive-increase-in-violence-as-they-proactively-grab-people-off-the-streets)from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in to the city of Portland, Oregon, in the summer of 2020 to arrest citizens protesting against police brutality—

summarily sweeping people off the street on the pretext of a kind of preventative arrest based on

groundless speculation that they were “antifa” conspiring to “burn down our cities,”

as Trump put it—that it was an outrage against the Constitution and the rule of law.

“The report was a stunning analysis of the incompetence and mismanagement and abuse of power during the summer of 2020,”

senior DHS leaders attempted to politicize intelligence

in order to support Trump’s claims that a massive “antifa” conspiracy was behind the many anti-police protests around the nation,

but particularly so in Portland. The same leaders pressured subordinates to illegally search phones, and when legal staff objected, sought to cut them out of the discussion.

A team of open source intelligence collectors, tasked with analyzing information obtained from public sources, also

created dossiers on protesters and journalists—which they called “baseball cards”—despite having no clear connections to domestic terrorism or security threats.

“The report documents shocking, coordinated efforts by our government to abuse its power and to invade liberty in violation of the Constitution,”

“In Portland, we were concerned that

the government unconstitutionally collected information, including through the illegal search of protestors’ cellphones last summer.

This report confirms that was their intent.”

between June 4 and Aug. 31, DHS sent at least 755 officers—

from agencies that ranged from Federal Protective Service to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, as well as U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Secret Service, and U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Office of Intelligence and Analysis personnel

Another protester—a Navy veteran who was attempting to speak with the DHS officers—was brutally beaten with batons (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/us/portland-protests-navy-christopher-david.html), breaking his hand.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/10/7/2056752/-Portland-invasion-by-Trump-s-DHS-goons-was-an-incompetent-shambles-internal-review-finds




Trump President.
Not Clinton.