Preseason Thread: Utah Jazz at San Antonio Spurs, Monday, Oct. 4th, 2021 at 7:30PM CT (3:30AM Riga)

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Didn’t watch but can Murray still not shoot a 3? If he still hasn’t shown improvement get him the fuck out

[Dejounte]

Quick thoughts . . .

-Thaddeus is definitely out of here soon, with Luka probably included.
-Aminu, IMO, is getting waived.
-Primo is a half-court player. He slows the game down by a lot. He makes a LOT of reads out there and reacts. He doesn't look like he prefers to run. Not a bad thing, you need that on your team. It's sort of like having DeMar back on your team, but with a lot better 3-point shooting prowess obviously.
-Can't wait to see a line-up consisting of Tre, Murray, Primo, and Keldon or Vassell. A LOT of unique looks on the offense. This year will be hella fun to watch without any ball stoppers.
-Dejounte did a great job leading the team. Had a lot of nifty passes but the shots didn't go in. Obviously, his own shot wasn't going in today but he wasn't hesitant at all. Looks like he's added interior scoring to his bag.
-White will get back to scoring on a consistent basis. He has these nights where NOTHING is falling. He doesn't have a great rhythm to his game, I think it's because of his awkward feet. When he's on, he's on but when he's off, he's really off.
-Lonnie looked impressive as a Jordan Clarkson type player out there. That's his role. I don't expect it to increase much, but I could see the utility. He's a great team guy as well, excited for guys who might take his minutes. Maybe he'll take a pay cut to stay here.
-Landale was nice. IMO, probably the reason Sengun wasn't drafted.
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[tim_duncan_fan]

Primo is neat, but he needs work defensively. Jazz radio guys were laughing about him getting beat repeatedly.


Looks like it will be a few games before dust settles and a primary scorer emerges, if there is a such thing on the team.


Jock will be fun.

[timtonymanu]

Didn’t watch but can Murray still not shoot a 3? If he still hasn’t shown improvement get him the fuck out

One of the reasons why I'm glad Demar is gone. Neither of them could shoot the 3 and a lot of his offense rubbed off on Murray it seems.

[timtonymanu]

Didn’t watch but can Murray still not shoot a 3? If he still hasn’t shown improvement get him the fuck out

One of the reasons why I'm glad Demar is gone. Neither of them could shoot the 3 and a lot of his offense rubbed off on Murray it seems.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Quick thoughts . . .

-Thaddeus is definitely out of here soon, with Luka probably included.
-Aminu, IMO, is getting waived.
-Primo is a half-court player. He slows the game down by a lot. He makes a LOT of reads out there and reacts. He doesn't look like he prefers to run. Not a bad thing, you need that on your team. It's sort of like having DeMar back on your team, but with a lot better 3-point shooting prowess obviously.
-Can't wait to see a line-up consisting of Tre, Murray, Primo, and Keldon or Vassell. A LOT of unique looks on the offense. This year will be hella fun to watch without any ball stoppers.
-Dejounte did a great job leading the team. Had a lot of nifty passes but the shots didn't go in. Obviously, his own shot wasn't going in today but he wasn't hesitant at all. Looks like he's added interior scoring to his bag.
-White will get back to scoring on a consistent basis. He has these nights where NOTHING is falling. He doesn't have a great rhythm to his game, I think it's because of his awkward feet. When he's on, he's on but when he's off, he's really off.
-Lonnie looked impressive as a Jordan Clarkson type player out there. That's his role. I don't expect it to increase much, but I could see the utility. He's a great team guy as well, excited for guys who might take his minutes. Maybe he'll take a pay cut to stay here.
-Landale was nice. IMO, probably the reason Sengun wasn't drafted.
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Wow, so you are officially not impressed/moved by him? You're done?

"Team Guy" sounds like a huge indictment in this context.

[Dejounte]

Wow, so you are officially not impressed/moved by him? You're done?

"Team Guy" sounds like a huge indictment in this context.

When was the last time I was impressed by Lonnie? I think you're confusing me with someone else...

I'm not dismayed by Lonnie. He had a good game. He's not the type to take the reigns though... I think he would work great as a microwave scorer like Mills was.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

One of the reasons why I'm glad Demar is gone. Neither of them could shoot the 3 and a lot of his offense rubbed off on Murray it seems.
Demar stayed to long and a lot of his bad habits have rubbed off on the young ones

[Mr. Body]

Murray is in the Parker role. Neither could hit the three and finally the team backed them out of the need. Their roles were to circulate the ball and drive hard when they had openings. Murray isn't the midrange shooter Parker is yet, but he's essentially the same role at this point.

[Dejounte]

Murray is in the Parker role. Neither could hit the three and finally the team backed them out of the need. Their roles were to circulate the ball and drive hard when they had openings. Murray isn't the midrange shooter Parker is yet, but he's essentially the same role at this point.

Lmao exactly, people look at one thing and one thing only. Murray was the reason the game was blown wide open when he pretty much took over during the 3rd quarter (or was it 2nd?). I'm not convinced either that his 3-point shooting is dead. Players go hot and cold. The greatest shooters have gone 0-10 3PT before. I'll give it more time to assess like I always do (15 games into the regular season), instead of knee-jerk react.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Yeah at one point Murray had 7 straight and assisted on another 2 points, essentially 9 straight.


When was the last time I was impressed by Lonnie? I think you're confusing me with someone else...

I'm not dismayed by Lonnie. He had a good game. He's not the type to take the reigns though... I think he would work great as a microwave scorer like Mills was.
I wasn't saying you had been high on him; it was just surprising to see someone fully giving up on him being anything special.

[niraj2000]

Quick thoughts . . .

-Primo is a half-court player. He slows the game down by a lot. He makes a LOT of reads out there and reacts. He doesn't look like he prefers to run. Not a bad thing, you need that on your team. It's sort of like having DeMar back on your team, but with a lot better 3-point shooting prowess obviously.

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The pace becomes a half court game in the playoffs..Primo is going to be a big game player. On offense the game has already slowed down for him

[spurraider21]

So has Vassell shown anything so far? Just tuned in about 5 minutes ago. He needs to fucking do something to live up to his #11 draft spot.
im sure timvp will come up with some great superlative for him... "looked like he knows what he's doing out there, heady decisions with the ball, didnt make big mistakes when playing team defense"

[Dejounte]

Yeah at one point Murray had 7 straight and assisted on another 2 points, essentially 9 straight.


I wasn't saying you had been high on him; it was just surprising to see someone fully giving up on him being anything special.

Nah, I don't think he has ZERO chance to become something special. He has a really tall mountain to climb though. But it's not a bad thing, he can be a nice piece for a team as a good role player. You want guys who are excited to be on the team, especially with that kind of athleticism and versatility to play both wing positions.

[spurraider21]

i really dont think white should be starting. he really needs the ball all the time for his rhythm… also the starting lineup could really benefit with a knockdown shooter at the two… Lonnie makes the most sense at this point.
forbes :pop:

[rastaspur]

Not so many folks shitting all over primo anymore. I've said it from the jump and pre draft that he would be a special player in time. I wanted him on this roster though not at pick 11.

This is going to be a fun season. G league will hinder him more 5hqn help him. Let him learn 9n the fly.

Send him to g league occassionally for point guard development/ball handling development.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/tom_orsborn/status/1445231261786726400

https://twitter.com/Abrjsdad/status/1445228268811128834

[raybies]

Definitely enjoyed watching this team. Primo should play with the main team. He's talented and may be the most talented of the young crew. Sending him to the Gleague would be a get overt yourself old Pop.move.

Luka is meh tbh.

Yep... My first thought was that he would fit perfect next to Murray... I also said the lineup should be DJ, Primo, KJ, McDick, and Jock... That's my hope... I feel with two knock down shooters and Primo's ability to create shots.. I think that's the play tbh

[tbdog]

So are we winning a championship?

[raybies]

So are we winning a championship?

Well we just won the lottery so I guess now we can win the chip. :smokin

[paperboy77]

he's a scrub

don’t get to see practices but he’s proving to be a scrub. Sucks but yeah.

[jbspurs]

I can't even find any highlights of the game.:bang:bang

[Dejounte]

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/dejounte-murray-and-josh-primo-of-the-san-antonio-spurs-high-five-picture-id1235702003?s=2048x2048

[ismael-robert]

I really like Jock..I am a fan of rooks Josh and Jock.

I bet u really do

[raybies]

forbes :pop:

fvck

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHcqPRX650Q

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ3PLxQ7uI8

[raybies]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHcqPRX650Q

may oden or whatever god you worship bless you greatly in Life.

[Fusternino]

same here! after i paid $2 some : (

Bizarre since it explicitly stated there would be a Utah stream but not a Spurs one. Huh.

[PhantomDashCam]

Primo looked like he belongs on a NBA court. moved very well and i think he had a block from behind after his man got past him for a layup? v exciting debut for sure.


Primo lacks explosive speed, but I think he'll learn how to use craftiness to get where he needs. He had a kind of incredible scoop shot on a drive from the side.

Thanks gents. Looking forward to tracking down some highlights.

[offset formation]

Ill take Bryn in limited minutes. So long as he's a bench guy in limited rotation, me likey, actually. he's an absolute stud on the offensive side, and so long as they pair him with a solid D ensemble, he's a net positive for the first time ever.

[DAF86]

Where the coño are the highlights?

[John B]

Ill take Bryn in limited minutes. So long as he's a bench guy in limited rotation, me likey, actually. he's an absolute stud on the offensive side, and so long as they pair him with a solid D ensemble, he's a net positive for the first time ever.

Signing McDermont saved us from Bryn starting :lol

[raybies]

Signing McDermont saved us from Bryn starting :lol

McD pretty dope tbh.. I really like his game... for a offensive specialist type guy he has a lot to offer... and as a pf it could be a lot worse...

[tbdog]

McDermott was the perfect signing for what we needed to compliment our youth. We just need to find or develop an allstar or two.

[Dex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHcqPRX650Q

Thanks for posting, but Spurs social media sucking per par.

More than half that video is stupid shots of the crowd and the hype crew. I don't want to watch some dude chug his beer, I want to see what the players on the court are doing.

[TDomination]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHcqPRX650Q

did they really use precious highlight time to show 2 guys drinking beer for 10 seconds?? lol

[raybies]

did they really use precious highlight time to show 2 guys drinking beer for 10 seconds?? lol

literally thought the same thing... but 10 seconds to sell tickets is what it is... they had pop on a freaking podium and they made us download an app for our information... just tough times.. i respect the hustle though

[Chinook]

did they really use precious highlight time to show 2 guys drinking beer for 10 seconds?? lol

And 30 seconds of dancing. I bet they could get folks to pay like five bucks for streaming right and have someone like Bonner or the Toros guys call the games. It doesn't make sense that they put so little effort into pre-season coverage.

[Darius Bieber]

Remember guys, the Detroit Lions went 3-0 in preseason during their 0-16 regular season run. :flag:

[Dejounte]

But if the Spurs go winless in preseason, all hell breaks loose. :lmao

its always too low or too high. Nobody can contain themselves on here

[raybies]

But if the Spurs go winless in preseason, all hell breaks loose. :lmao

its always too low or too high. Nobody can contain themselves on here

well for most cases you are either a "sniffer" or a "cliff jumper." I prefer people to be one or other tbh because if you try to play the middle you just a lukewarm dude who tries to play both sides or devil's advocate. Typically I'm like that in life but this is sports and it's a one town one team dynamic. Believers and doubters, faithful and skeptics...

A very natural dynamic if you understand duality and it's purposes.

Interestingly enough you attempt to condemn both sides which is actually worse... a holier then thou stance is so vain. Pick a side pussy.

[timtonymanu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHcqPRX650Q

SA coverage being cheap per par.

[Dejounte]

well for most cases you are either a "sniffer" or a "cliff jumper." I prefer people to be one or other tbh because if you try to play the middle you just a lukewarm dude who tries to play both sides or devil's advocate. Typically I'm like that in life but this is sports and it's a one town one team dynamic. Believers and doubters, faithful and skeptics...

A very natural dynamic if you understand duality and it's purposes.

Interestingly enough you attempt to condemn both which is actually worse... a holier then thou stance is so vain. Pick a side pussy.

the fuck you babbling about. Are you high every time you post

[raybies]

the fuck you babbling about. Are you high every time you post
nah but you aren't very smart so I'll stop.. you try to say real shit but it seems you have no idea what you are talking about and just parrot what you have heard...

my b man...

[Dejounte]

Lol sure “smart guy”

[Chomag]

We won't see much Primo with Forbes hanging around, maybe next year...

Also , he hasn't gone through the Pop rookie confidence tear down yet we will have to wait and see how he handles it.

I'm pulling for the kid though.

[Leetonidas]

We sucked balls in preseason last year and sucked balls during the season too. Not sure what that has to do with anything:lol

Tbh if you don't like people overreacting in game threads or in general you shouldn't be on ST. I mean that's the whole fucking forum :lol doesn't anyone remember T Park quitting in 2005 saying the Spurs were trash and had no chance to win a ring and he'd quit ST if they did, but then didn't?:lol this is standard ST behavior

[raybies]

I personally think it leads to great discussion/debate when you have two extremes coming at each other, especially when it is very knowledgeable, whether that be backed by stats, eye test or whatever... mean while the "fencers" make an analysis only after the fact and by reading everything the sniffers and cliff jumpers take the time to post... just the most lukewarm ppl to come across... literally don't put nothing on the table but regurgitate the same shit over and over again...

at least sniffers and cliff jumpers are on the front lines so to speak... fencers just stay in their comfort zones, then have the nerve to call both out LUL shut yo hoe ass up tbh

[PerforatedNeckline]

Just a lurker so I don't know how to properly embed links, but here's a video of full-game highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln9nvyCs8II&ab_channel=BeardedSport

[Joseph Kony]

But if the Spurs go winless in preseason, all hell breaks loose. :lmao

its always too low or too high. Nobody can contain themselves on here

Welcome to literally any sports forum dude.


i blame social media tbh. the era of instant gratification and overreacting to everything started when sports become 10x more accessible and digestible on social media

[spurspl]

https://youtu.be/ln9nvyCs8II (https://youtu.be/ln9nvyCs8II)

highlights

[Dex]

We sucked balls in preseason last year and sucked balls during the season too. Not sure what that has to do with anything:lol

Tbh if you don't like people overreacting in game threads or in general you shouldn't be on ST. I mean that's the whole fucking forum :lol doesn't anyone remember T Park quitting in 2005 saying the Spurs were trash and had no chance to win a ring and he'd quit ST if they did, but then didn't?:lol this is standard ST behavior

This preseason is also not like most.

Yeah, the team used to suck during preseason because Pop didn't waste time playing our Hall of Fame vets for meaningless games. He'd go entire games without putting a projected starter into the lineup.

The majority of the players we are seeing play now WILL set the rotation for the regular season. Obviously the wins and losses don't matter, but this preseason is probably the most "meaningful" this team has had in the last 20 years.

[spurraider21]

vassell could be such a good 3&D player if he just got good at hitting 3's and playing D

[GAustex]

Team spirit , playing together, coming together after all those years of foolishly going thru DDR and LMA and relying on Mills and Gay. They have to play D (Forbes lol) and hustle and play with abandon. That is their only chance.
Maybe but unlikely.

[Rocalcio]

fvck

He hasn't been that bad.

[Rocalcio]

vassell could be such a good 3&D player if he just got good at hitting 3's and playing D

:rollin

And he would also be great at rebounding if he could get a lot of rebounds.

[raybies]

He hasn't been that bad.
but it's st culture tbh...

and its funny LUL

[spurraider21]

:rollin

And he would also be great at rebounding if he could get a lot of rebounds.
Yup. If you ignore his play on offense and defense his early returns have been promising