Texas Republicans now want Holocaust denial taught in classrooms.

[RandomGuy]

So much for "local control". Another "conservative" principle tossed on the garbage heap of devotion to white nationalism.


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SOUTHLAKE, Texas — A top administrator with the Carroll Independent School District in Southlake advised teachers last week that if they have a book about the Holocaust in their classroom, they should also offer students access to a book from an “opposing” perspective, according to an audio recording obtained by NBC News.

Gina Peddy, the Carroll school district’s executive director of curriculum and instruction, made the comment Friday afternoon during a training session on which books teachers can have in classroom libraries. The training came four days after the Carroll school board, responding to a parent’s complaint, voted to reprimand a fourth grade teacher who had kept an anti-racism book in her classroom.

A Carroll staff member secretly recorded the Friday training and shared the audio with NBC News.

“Just try to remember the concepts of [House Bill] 3979,” Peddy said in the recording, referring to a new Texas law that requires teachers to present multiple perspectives when discussing “widely debated and currently controversial” issues. “And make sure that if you have a book on the Holocaust,” Peddy continued, “that you have one that has an opposing, that has other perspectives.”

“How do you oppose the Holocaust?” one teacher said in response.

“Believe me,” Peddy said. “That’s come up.”


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Conservative SJWs have gotten the laws passed that they wanted.

[Millennial_Messiah]

this is an outlier, nobody with a brain actually believes in holocaust denial

[monosylab1k]

this is an outlier, nobody with a brain actually believes in holocaust denial

Your boy Derp did. So does Thread. So does Chris aka daboom1.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Your boy Derp did. So does Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320). So does Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) aka daboom1 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54188).

I don't.
I also believe we landed on the moon.
I also believe the Islamists did 9/11,
I also believe +1.7º celsius in 120 years won't spell the end of humanity,
that Fauci planned and cooked up COVID-19 years ago,
& the "vaccine" is a BigPharma hoax to prop up government and corporate oligarchical (i.e. bigpharma, BigTech) control over the people.

I currently support GOP because they're the lesser of the two evils at the moment, but my politics pretty much fall in line with Mark Celibate than spurtacular, chris or tsa

[Ef-man]

Imagine teaching evolution and having to teach creationism at schools?

Explains why idiots get calf-tats.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Imagine teaching evolution and having to teach creationism at schools?

Explains why idiots get calf-tats.

I went to school in Medina county Texas and never learned creationism at school or elsewhere... however evolution was taught for the final 6 weeks of my freshman year in high school. I mostly enjoyed it. of course, I'm an atheist.

[DMC]

Where's the math/science opposing viewpoint book?

2+2=orange

The real truth about math and science

[koriwhat]

Imagine teaching evolution and having to teach creationism at schools?

Explains why idiots get calf-tats.

They're tattoos you dumb fucking sheep that can't help but follow the herd... A parrot in sheep's clothing tbh and nothing you say is clever nor original.

You're soft like charmin even on your best of days you fucking pussy.

[koriwhat]

I went to school in Medina county Texas and never learned creationism at school or elsewhere... however evolution was taught for the final 6 weeks of my freshman year in high school. I mostly enjoyed it. of course, I'm an atheist.


Yep never was taught Creationism not even once from grade school to college. The dude is a fucking pussy who plays make believe like the others pussies here including your hobbit ass too.

[DMC]

I am ok with school libraries having books about alternative viewpoints, but the consensus viewpoint should be taught in schools.

[spurraider21]

Your boy Derp did. So does Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320). So does Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656) aka daboom1 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=54188).
pretty sure Mark Celibate has "questions"

DD too

[Millennial_Messiah]

pretty sure Mark Celibate (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49544) has "questions"

DD too

it's good to have questions and be a skeptic and analyze facts for yourself instead of being a gullible msm sheeple.

[spurraider21]

:lmao mm keeps quoting me even though he knows that his posts are invisible. wish i could get rid of the notifications too

where is post 12? :lol

https://i.gyazo.com/de53f0b3172aced6c5c7edec92325a3f.png

[koriwhat]

:lmao mm keeps quoting me even though he knows that his posts are invisible. wish i could get rid of the notifications too

Welcome to my world!

[Leetonidas]

Imagine teaching evolution and having to teach creationism at schools?

Explains why idiots get calf-tats.

:lol

[DMC]

:lmao mm keeps quoting me even though he knows that his posts are invisible. wish i could get rid of the notifications too

where is post 12? :lol

https://i.gyazo.com/de53f0b3172aced6c5c7edec92325a3f.png

Mark Celibate is Q

[Adam Lambert]

This is so cartoonishly stupid I'm almost willing to believe she's just trying to make a point about how dumb bill 3979 is.

On the other hand, "cartoonishly stupid" is very on brand for today's conservatards.

[Mark Celibate]

pretty sure Mark Celibate (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49544) has "questions"

DD too

https://pics.me.me/thumb_aspot-muh-holocaust-flogging-a-dead-horse-shlomo-edition-muh-50115644.png

[Mark Celibate]

tbh I haven't even read this thread yet, just giving spurraider a bite on his cast imo

[pgardn]

Wait, wait a minute...
Conservatives really believe the Holocaust happened.
Is this not just a way to get the libs pissed off?
That seems to be the go to excuse.

Next they will doubt the trips to the moon and have opposing view books just to piss off the blue team. This is the real goal?

Or am I mistaken?

[Mark Celibate]

https://bayanbox.ir/view/4576028758900401348/1125.jpg

[pgardn]

So I am clearly mistaken based on degenerative celibacy that rots the brain.

[boutons_deux]

holocaust balanced with alterntive view

is

sinister both side-ism, "on the other hand", meant to destroy historical fact, inviting to consider "alternative facts"

the apex of the alternate facts alterhnate reality is the BigLie thr Trash is still President, Biden is ilegit

America is failing as a society, it will end badly as Capitalist/Christian fascism, probably about Jan 2025

[FrostKing]

Just want to remind some in this thread that CRT is an "opposing perspective".

[Adam Lambert]

Just want to remind some in this thread that CRT is an "opposing perspective".

Do tell. Opposing what?

[FrostKing]

Do tell. Opposing what?
Haha. You guys (both sides) are constantly switching jerseys and playing for the other team.

[Adam Lambert]

Haha. You guys are constantly switching jerseys and playing for the other team.

Frost Supremacist folds.

[DMC]

Do tell. Opposing what?

Duh, flat panels.

[Winehole23]

Well, Hitler did a lot of good things.

[Thread]

^^^

He did.

[RandomGuy]

this is an outlier, nobody with a brain actually believes in holocaust denial

It is way more common than you seem to realize.

The basis of the entire Q thing is ultimately "da joos did it"

[Millennial_Messiah]

It is way more common than you seem to realize.

The basis of the entire Q thing is ultimately "da joos did it"

tell that to say, Ben Shapiro. A leading conservative voice who also so happens to be.....

[RandomGuy]

I don't.
I also believe we landed on the moon.
I also believe the Islamists did 9/11,
I also believe +1.7º celsius in 120 years won't spell the end of humanity,
that Fauci planned and cooked up COVID-19 years ago,
& the "vaccine" is a BigPharma hoax to prop up government and corporate oligarchical (i.e. bigpharma, BigTech) control over the people.

I currently support GOP because they're the lesser of the two evils at the moment, but my politics pretty much fall in line with Mark Celibate than spurtacular, chris or tsa

No one believes that 1.7 degrees celsius will end humanity. Just that it will have some severe costs. This is called a strawman logical fallacy.
People have been predicting this kind of pandemic for decades. That you think it was a secret conspiracy is tin foil hat bullshit. Go stand in a fucking corner with the idiots that think the moon landing was faked.
The vaccine is like every other vaccine. it prevents illness.

You are an idiot for believing these things. Period.

[RandomGuy]

tell that to say, Ben Shapiro. A leading conservative voice who also so happens to be.....

Blood libel = Q

[pgardn]

Just want to remind some in this thread that CRT is an "opposing perspective".

The holocaust did or did not happen.

Opposing perspective is... wow.
We did or did not land on the moon.
The earth is or is not flat.

Lets do all of this in school.
Lets go backwards and recreate RECENT history.


We need to teach people why we know the Earth is round. Not that it is flat.
Why we know the Germans systematically killed Jews in a very detailed plan. The fckn kept excellent records. And guess what, there is more. Lots more. Deep Troves more.Bodies more.

Fkn ridiculous lunkheads of society were given a sense of expertise in things they don’t care to examine critically (by the red team seems to me.)
Lets start over with completely stupid, let’s go backwards, it’s happened before.
Why don’t we ask better questions. Why were there so few uprisings in concentration camps... cont...

[Thread]

The holocaust did or did not happen.

Opposing perspective is... wow.
We did or did not land on the moon.
The earth is or is not flat.

Lets do all of this in school.
Lets go backwards and recreate RECENT history.


We need to teach people why we know the Earth is round. Not that it is flat.
Why we know the Germans systematically killed Jews in a very detailed plan. The fckn kept excellent records. And guess what, there is more. Lots more. Deep Troves more.Bodies more.

Fkn ridiculous lunkheads of society were given a sense of expertise in things they don’t care to examine critically (by the red team seems to me.)
Lets start over with completely stupid, let’s go backwards, it’s happened before.
Why don’t we ask better questions. Why were there so few uprisings in concentration camps... cont...

...why did the world starve the German people out for 20 years? We ain't done that again, eh, peeg? After WW2 we let 'em & Japan off the hook for the next 75 years. "A bonus, Germany and Japan: Your children don't have to go to the slaughters. We'll send our children to the slaughters. And when the last 13 come home dead as door nails our fake President will tunnel vision his fuckin' watch as they step down from the plane.

You don't have to spend your money on military defense, nary a dime. We'll spend our money on our and your military defense."

[pgardn]

...why did the world starve the German people out for 20 years? We ain't done that again, eh, peeg? After WW2 we let 'em & Japan off the hook for the next 75 years. "A bonus, Germany and Japan: Your children don't have to go to the slaughters. We'll send our children to the slaughters. And when the last 13 come home dead as door nails our fake President will tunnel vision his fuckin' watch as they step down from the plane.

You don't have to spend your money on military defense, nary a dime. We'll spend our money on our and your military defense."

Uhhhh...
Maybe because they had plans to invade their neighbors and did it not once, but twice.
Are you serious. Starve them out? After WWI none of the European countries dared to watch Germany closely for what was going on. They were rebuilding a massive military after a stalemate war. Maybe we should ask, why did the US and allies not make a concerted effort to completely annihilate them into submission like WWII. Why the allies did not make a concerted effort to go city to city inside Germany, and burn down as much a possible and completely thwart their will. We did this in WWII with a vengeance with bombing from the air. We fire bombed the shit out of Germany, we stomped on their neck and made them plead. And when they did, we then helped them.

At least you are looking for an excuse for the Holocaust.

Honestly this site has more people who seemed to have failed at whatever they do and are driven to make up bugaboo forces that have consistently dealt their own personal failures an excuse. People who feel they have no control over their own personal lives getting together and making up shit to explain their inability to navigate our society. Or like hater, make up grandiose characters that have let him in on all things going on in the world without reading or experiencing much of anything useful. From BIG ______ to anything Chicago. Just exaggerate all of it till it reaches the point of excess so that YOU personally are spared any self examination.

Or just go the other direction and declare independence from the outside world and go grab a multitude of guns for the come to Jesus moment.
After work I wish people could get outside and walk or exercise with friends. This is a sports board. Does anyone get totally exhausted after playing a good pickup game of basketball, a good swim, hunt, fish. For gods sake take up pickle ball if you cant move anymore. Shuffle board... something.

"No. Ill just sit inside and find some good imaginary monster to blame my own personal failings on thank you."

Did anyone do anything fun outside in the past week? Month? year? That required physical and mental exertion. With other people? Actual social animals that we are supposed to be talking to and having fun with FACE to FACE. Or did you just go buy colored drinks and a whore in some Eastern European paradise (not) and catch some disease you can fob off on our health care system... FRostY. You see how this can be done. I blame you for our health care failings. Filthy Eastern European White Trash.

[Thread]

Uhhhh...
Maybe because they had plans to invade their neighbors and did it not once, but twice.
Are you serious. Starve them out? After WWI none of the European countries dared to watch Germany closely for what was going on. They were rebuilding a massive military after a stalemate war. Maybe we should ask, why did the US and allies not make a concerted effort to completely annihilate them into submission like WWII. Why the allies did not make a concerted effort to go city to city inside Germany, and burn down as much a possible and completely thwart their will. We did this in WWII with a vengeance with bombing from the air. We fire bombed the shit out of Germany, we stomped on their neck and made them plead. And when they did, we then helped them.

At least you are looking for an excuse for the Holocaust.

Honestly this site has more people who seemed to have failed at whatever they do and are driven to make up bugaboo forces that have consistently dealt their own personal failures an excuse. People who feel they have no control over their own personal lives getting together and making up shit to explain their inability to navigate our society. Or like hater, make up grandiose characters that have let him in on all things going on in the world without reading or experiencing much of anything useful. From BIG ______ to anything Chicago. Just exaggerate all of it till it reaches the point of excess so that YOU personally are spared any self examination.

Or just go the other direction and declare independence from the outside world and go grab a multitude of guns for the come to Jesus moment.
After work I wish people could get outside and walk or exercise with friends. This is a sports board. Does anyone get totally exhausted after playing a good pickup game of basketball, a good swim, hunt, fish. For gods sake take up pickle ball if you cant move anymore. Shuffle board... something.

"No. Ill just sit inside and find some good imaginary monster to blame my own personal failings on thank you."

Did anyone do anything fun outside in the past week? Month? year? That required physical and mental exertion. With other people? Actual social animals that we are supposed to be talking to and having fun with FACE to FACE. Or did you just go buy colored drinks and a whore in some Eastern European paradise (not) and catch some disease you can fob off on our health care system... FRostY. You see how this can be done. I blame you for our health care failings. Filthy Eastern European White Trash.

Yeah, absolutely. Punishing the populace for the misdeeds of the gov't is wrong, but so easy.

Twixt the end of 1 & then 2 the world learned those lessons and thus the rebuilding of Europe took place, not the starvation of Germany & Japan that would've led to a 3.

Like Lincoln after the Civil War..."Let 'em up easy, boys."...He didn't drag President Davis out into the street and hang him. No, he stuck him in a room that was perpetually lit for awhile, then apologized for doing that.

[FrostKing]

The holocaust did or did not happen.

Opposing perspective is... wow.
We did or did not land on the moon.
The earth is or is not flat.

Lets do all of this in school.
Lets go backwards and recreate RECENT history.


We need to teach people why we know the Earth is round. Not that it is flat.
Why we know the Germans systematically killed Jews in a very detailed plan. The fckn kept excellent records. And guess what, there is more. Lots more. Deep Troves more.Bodies more.

Fkn ridiculous lunkheads of society were given a sense of expertise in things they don’t care to examine critically (by the red team seems to me.)
Lets start over with completely stupid, let’s go backwards, it’s happened before.
Why don’t we ask better questions. Why were there so few uprisings in concentration camps... cont...
Holocaust was atleast 4 years long, included more than just the Jewish demographic and occurred outside just Nazi Germany. Atleast that's the non-American viewpoint. Have you considered that these other groups also want their experience and suffering heard.

[Adam Lambert]

Holocaust was atleast 4 years long, included more than just the Jewish demographic and occurred outside just Nazi Germany. Atleast that's the non-American viewpoint. Have you considered that these other groups also want their experience and suffering heard.

That's not an opposing perspective. And it is taught.

[Winehole23]

That's not an opposing perspective. And it is taught.It's well known that Slavs and Roma were singled out for extermination, as were homosexuals, leftists, the mentally changed and handicapped folks.

I happen to know this because it was part of the common conversation about the Holocaust, in school and out of it.

[RandomGuy]

It's well known that Slavs and Roma were singled out for extermination, as were homosexuals, leftists, the mentally changed and handicapped folks.

I happen to know this because it was part of the common conversation about the Holocaust, in school and out of it.

+1

The neo-fascists want their ideas elevated.

the "both sides" bullshittery of the last couple of decades where somehow we are supposed to present both sides of arguments as if all sides of any controversy are automatically equal in basis, is toxic to critical thinking.

We end up with fucktards who can't understand that, no, not all ideas are equally supported by evidence. This forum is rife with that. Shitty ideas end up being given way more credence and attention than they should.

It is a matter of time before some asshat tries to "both sides" flat earth bullshit, or Creationism in a science classroom.

[FrostKing]

+1

The neo-fascists want their ideas elevated.

the "both sides" bullshittery of the last couple of decades where somehow we are supposed to present both sides of arguments as if all sides of any controversy are automatically equal in basis, is toxic to critical thinking.

We end up with fucktards who can't understand that, no, not all ideas are equally supported by evidence. This forum is rife with that. Shitty ideas end up being given way more credence and attention than they should.

It is a matter of time before some asshat tries to "both sides" flat earth bullshit, or Creationism in a science classroom.
To ensure history doesn't repeat, you need to fully understand not just what happened by why. History is more complicated than simply they are evil like a Comic movie villain. Beyond "they hate us for our freedoms".

[Winehole23]

To ensure history doesn't repeat, you need to fully understand not just what happened by why. History is more complicated than simply they are evil like a Comic movie villain. Beyond "they hate us for our freedoms".what's your point?

[leemajors]

This must be why more than 50% of 3rd graders in TX cannot read.

[pgardn]

Holocaust was atleast 4 years long, included more than just the Jewish demographic and occurred outside just Nazi Germany. Atleast that's the non-American viewpoint. Have you considered that these other groups also want their experience and suffering heard.

The Jews were singled out on a large scale FAR MORE than any other group.
Scapegoat to ignite a country of people that Thread seems to think were just innocent followers of a government. Seriously?

And now he blindly follows the orange balloon that has lost.
The irony.

[pgardn]

Suggested reading:

The RISE and FALL of the Third Reich

There is a ton of clueless weighing down this topic.

[RandomGuy]

To ensure history doesn't repeat, you need to fully understand not just what happened by why. History is more complicated than simply they are evil like a Comic movie villain. Beyond "they hate us for our freedoms".

Tell me again why communism is bad?

[pgardn]

To ensure history doesn't repeat, you need to fully understand not just what happened by why. History is more complicated than simply they are evil like a Comic movie villain. Beyond "they hate us for our freedoms".

History will repeat in this instance. It already has.
What we learned is the best why to unite a populist movement is too fuel hatred among people who dont feel they have any power.
Pick a convenient scapegoat and persecute them while sending an uneducated public on a charade of defeating something so it will unite them even if patently false. The German people may have had some cultural characteristics that made this easier but Germans, just because they are Germans are not unique in their ability to be fooled and force fed bullshit. It can happen within any country are group of people.

So now we play the fake news game to willfully hide truth because the uneducated folks who feel powerless are uniquely set up to lash out at false enemies. Trump was masterful at this with the white working man proclaimed to be THE AMERICA we must fight for. WE fell hard for this bullshit. Still do. And WE are not uniquely vulnerable to this crap.

[Mark Celibate]

https://preview.redd.it/jezhxm649d441.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&43cebdc4

[baseline bum]

^^^

He did.

Sending his military into Russia in the winter without coats was nice since it torpedoed the nazi war effort, but eating his Walther is about the only good thing he did on purpose.

[RandomGuy]

Sending his military into Russia in the winter without coats was nice since it torpedoed the nazi war effort, but eating his Walther is about the only good thing he did on purpose.

...and that is where we are.
Sad to see it come to this.

[CosmicCowboy]

This must be why more than 50% of 3rd graders in TX cannot read.

Thats because their parents suck. My 5 year old grandson is starting to read.

[leemajors]

Thats because their parents suck. My 5 year old grandson is starting to read.

I agree, and my daughter could read at 4, but wasting time on bullshit like this legislative action instead of funding schools better is insane

[DMC]

I agree, and my daughter could read at 4, but wasting time on bullshit like this legislative action instead of funding schools better is insane

Yep. My grandson could read when he was a zygote but this shit needs to get better.

[CosmicCowboy]

I agree it's a dumb law but think of the crazy things it could be applied to...

The cold war...Russia had the moral high ground and we were the evil empire
The civil war...it really wasn't about slavery
Iraq...Hussein just did a good job of hiding the WMD's.
Space flights are faked
Climate change is just weather
etc.

[RandomGuy]

This must be why more than 50% of 3rd graders in TX cannot read.

hmmm. link?

[leemajors]

hmmm. link?

https://www.txpta.org/literacy-by-third-grade#:~:text=In%202017%2C%20only%2044%25%20of,sta te's%20third%20grade%20reading%20standard.

AISD sent out an email last week that said only 37% of 3rd graders here can read.

[Spurs Homer]

But but-

DR SEUSS!


wait- thats ok now- legit crisis avoided!

[Mark Celibate]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA2Jun5X4AE3w09.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA2Jun5X4AE3w09.jpgWhat documentation supports your claim that every holocaust victim was cremated in a crematorium?

[Ef-man]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA2Jun5X4AE3w09.jpg

That you ducks?