View Full Version : The Early 00s Sitcom Starring Doug McDermott
Chinook
10-18-2021, 12:51 PM
May as well get church threads for everyone now that the roster is set. I actually like how he's been used lately. His activity off the ball gives White, Murray and Poeltl a great target to work on their play-making. He defense isn't great, but that's not a huge problem for a team that isn't a contender. I don't love his contract or the trade that brought him in, but I think he'll be a legit rotation player for the life of his deal. Plus, he makes it so Forbes doesn't have to start to space the floor for the starters.
I have a feeling he's going to be a pretty divisive player for the team, where a bunch of folks harp on every bad thing he does and a lot of other people think of him as a fan favorite. Like Beli without the hand gestures.
The Truth #6
10-18-2021, 02:21 PM
A taller, better Marco but with similar type of attributes and shortcomings. Sounds about right. I’m optimistic, at least that other players will grow around him.
the golden era
10-18-2021, 02:26 PM
Great call out chin. I’m gonna binge watch. This team, like dougie gonna take 20 or so episodes to really get going. I think it’s going to be entertaining and fun by end of season
Dverde
10-18-2021, 02:41 PM
He actually reminds me of Brent Barry. Great shooter who can dunk. Good teammate, embraces his team role. No wife sadly for TP.
ismael-robert
10-18-2021, 04:15 PM
Chincok with the goods
Slippy
10-18-2021, 05:39 PM
Like the Marco comparison. He wont put up trash like him. The movement without the ball will be there. Yes, his teammates will appreciate him as an option.
On D thankfully not as undersized.
PhantomDashCam
10-18-2021, 05:45 PM
https://i.gifer.com/PGmN.gif
KingKev
10-18-2021, 07:34 PM
Hopefully cancelled by the 3rd season.
spurraider21
10-18-2021, 07:47 PM
for the team to justify his signing/existence he's going to have to be among the league leaders in 3 pointers
KingKev
10-18-2021, 08:13 PM
for the team to justify his signing/existence he's going to have to be among the league leaders in 3 pointers
He has the green light but not like he’s going to get open looks because the defense is pre occupied. There is not one player on this team worthy of a double team.
Chinook
10-27-2021, 12:18 PM
People are saying he has a knee injury? That would be a shame, because he's been a good addition to the team. He's really helped unlock Poeltl's play-making.
spurraider21
10-27-2021, 12:22 PM
i like his aggressiveness and his willingness to shoot off-balance like marco did. and pop seems to want to make him something of a focal point like the way korver used to be used in ATL. or more specifically, with this team's outside shot being so inconsistent, like Korver's role in Chicago
Ed Helicopter Jones
11-01-2021, 05:26 AM
He’s looked good for the Spurs so far. Hopefully the knee injury isn’t too severe.
D-Robinson 50 fan
11-01-2021, 07:30 AM
He actually reminds me of Brent Barry. Great shooter who can dunk. Good teammate, embraces his team role. No wife sadly for TP.
Brent was a better athlete and better off the bounce than Doug ever has been. Lol.
KobesAchilles
11-01-2021, 08:13 AM
Brent was a better athlete and better off the bounce than Doug ever has been. Lol.
Yeah but not by the time we got him. His 96 dunk champion days were long gone by then
D-Robinson 50 fan
11-01-2021, 10:47 AM
Yeah but not by the time we got him. His 96 dunk champion days were long gone by then
true that about the athleticism. Lol
he still was a better ball handler than Doug though.
Seventyniner
11-01-2021, 10:52 AM
Does anyone know what kind of injury McD has and how long he is expected to be out?
Fireball
11-01-2021, 10:54 AM
Does anyone know what kind of injury McD has and how long he is expected to be out?
a sore knee can take a while ... will teach him not to dunk anymore
exstatic
11-01-2021, 01:40 PM
They said 3 games on the telecast. He’s missed two, so if that was correct, he could return Wednesday.
Seventyniner
11-01-2021, 01:51 PM
They said 3 games on the telecast. He’s missed two, so if that was correct, he could return Wednesday.
Thanks. The team is already shooting-challenged and thin at forward.
Ocotillo
11-01-2021, 02:11 PM
For what it's worth, I think I recall seeing somewhere they were being extra cautious about it and keeping him out longer than necessary. Some tweet I think.
MultiTroll
11-03-2021, 10:14 PM
If he's not making shots could someone tell me again why he is out there?
26 minutes 2 points 5 fouls and traffic cone defense.
Landale 0 minutes.
Short Bus coach again?
slick'81
11-03-2021, 10:22 PM
If he's not making shots could someone tell me again why he is out there?
26 minutes 2 points 5 fouls and traffic cone defense.
Landale 0 minutes.
Short Bus coach again?
pop getting his 42 mil worth from his big fa signing
Chomag
11-03-2021, 10:30 PM
If he's not making shots could someone tell me again why he is out there?
26 minutes 2 points 5 fouls and traffic cone defense.
Landale 0 minutes.
Short Bus coach again?
Pop, always needs 2 of these type of players it was Forbes,Belli , now it's McD and Forbes. I don't understand it other then It's an odd fetish that Pop has
objective
11-03-2021, 10:36 PM
Bad lottery team overpays terrible defending 30 year old
Combined with Forbes?
Such a trash team :lol
Chinook
11-03-2021, 10:40 PM
The natural variance of shooting 40 percent means there will be games when a guy's shot is off. It wasn't too long ago that McD's shooting kept the team in a game they weren't playing well enough to compete in. He's having a decent season overall, which isn't something every rotation player on the team can say. Thad's just now fitting into the offense a bit, and McD is coming off an injury. Not the game I'd use to criticize him.
Chinook
11-03-2021, 10:41 PM
And for fuck's sake, the team has Landale all year and his RFA rights after that. They don't have to fall all over themselves to get him into the rotation. He certainly isn't going to get SF minutes.
GAustex
11-04-2021, 10:23 PM
I note Dougie McNoD has the Bryn Forbes hand clap when he gets used on D after giving up a And1
spurraider21
11-15-2021, 01:57 PM
want to see him shoot more. he's shown the ability to get shots off on the move or off balance and still knock them down. he needs to be hoisting up at least 7-8 attempts per game. i know he's not going to necessarily hit 48% all year on higher volume, but his gravity is always useful
MultiTroll
01-14-2022, 10:57 PM
Pop, always needs 2 of these type of players it was Forbes,Belli , now it's McD and Forbes. I don't understand it other then It's an odd fetish that Pop has
Bad lottery team overpays terrible defending 30 year old
Combined with Forbes?
Such a trash team :lol
Same old shit.
What a waste of good cap space.
MultiTroll
01-23-2022, 10:42 PM
I note Dougie McNoD has the Bryn Forbes hand clap when he gets used on D after giving up a And1
Another beauty vs 76ers.
28 minutes
1 rebound
1 assist
Bryn Bryn style lock down D
9 points (1-5 treys)
KingKev
01-23-2022, 10:53 PM
Another beauty vs 76ers.
28 minutes
1 rebound
1 assist
Bryn Bryn style lock down D
9 points (1-5 treys)
4th highest player, 3rd once we move/buyout Thad.
41% season average on 5 threes doesn’t justify the 42mm contract.
KingKev
02-15-2022, 07:30 AM
Easily my least favourite current Spur. 7/11 from the field last night and still noticeably detrimental to the team.
Atl Spur
02-15-2022, 09:53 AM
Doug’s the problem?
R. DeMurre
02-15-2022, 10:11 AM
The Chicago announcers were going crazy with praise last night for McDermott. Rating systems like EPM and RAPTOR consistently rank him near the bottom of the league, in Bryn Forbes territory. I'll let you be the judge. He's probably best suited for a role similar to the one Forbes had with the Bucks last season. The defense & rebounding that he & KJ combine for as starters is pretty clearly the gaping weak spot for the Spurs.
Atl Spur
02-15-2022, 10:26 AM
Doug is good at what he does, we have to cover up his defensive shortcomings with great team defense. We aren’t the first or last team in the league who will go through this:) Was Steve Kerr a great defender? Nope but you create a great defense around him…….this is not new! The team that can mask their weakest link wins.
R. DeMurre
02-15-2022, 10:50 AM
Doug is good at what he does, we have to cover up his defensive shortcomings with great team defense. We aren’t the first or last team in the league who will go through this:) Was Steve Kerr a great defender? Nope but you create a great defense around him…….this is not new! The team that can mask their weakest link wins.
Very true, but Kerr was a 10th man with the Spurs, like Forbes was with the Bucks. He wasn't a starter.
Atl Spur
02-15-2022, 10:52 AM
Kerr with the bulls? Great shooters aren’t usually great defenders. And let’s be honest, Doug’s a placeholder for the eventual starter…..
Atl Spur
02-15-2022, 10:55 AM
J Richardson will start hopefully
jermaine
02-15-2022, 12:13 PM
Kerr with the bulls? Great shooters aren’t usually great defenders. And let’s be honest, Doug’s a placeholder for the eventual starter…..
Let Devin slide over to SF an start J. Rich... Doug 1st off the bench an alot of screens & pin downs ran for him.
MultiTroll
02-15-2022, 12:27 PM
Doug’s a placeholder for the eventual starter…..
Given the 3rd highest $$$ and terms thru '23-24.
Serious misuse of funds.
Onward with the replacement starter.
14th-15th on bench okay.
Atl Spur
02-15-2022, 12:32 PM
Given the 3rd highest $$$ and terms thru '23-24.
Serious misuse of funds.
Onward with the replacement starter.
14th-15th on bench okay.
Not really….just the going rate:) Doug’s not the issue pimp
Atl Spur
02-15-2022, 12:32 PM
Let Devin slide over to SF an start J. Rich... Doug 1st off the bench an alot of screens & pin downs ran for him.
This
XDT76
02-16-2022, 01:46 AM
Playing another 6'5 SG is gonna solve our issue? Might as well sit Poeltl and start LW or Primo as well.
Atl Spur
02-16-2022, 08:07 AM
Playing another 6'5 SG is gonna solve our issue? Might as well sit Poeltl and start LW or Primo as well.
So you think j rich and Lonnie are the same caliber of defender?
Atl Spur
02-16-2022, 08:10 AM
Toney Allen was 6”4 and a dog on defense that guarded 1-3 outstandingly!
John B
02-16-2022, 08:18 AM
Having Josh and Langford is a luxury in deciding whether to keep Lonnie after this season. IF Lonnie can play like the last two games, then great. MAYBE Lonnie finally got it. Sometimes teaching is like that, when a student FINALLY got it, just like that, and the cloud finally disappear :lol. It sure looks like it’s a win/win with Boston getting a rejuvenated White, and Spurs got defensive athletic G/F to potentially solve that Lonnie’s spot. After that is the starting 4 and 5.
buttsR4rebounding
02-16-2022, 12:26 PM
Having Josh and Langford is a luxury in deciding whether to keep Lonnie after this season. IF Lonnie can play like the last two games, then great. MAYBE Lonnie finally got it. Sometimes teaching is like that, when a student FINALLY got it, just like that, and the cloud finally disappear :lol. It sure looks like it’s a win/win with Boston getting a rejuvenated White, and Spurs got defensive athletic G/F to potentially solve that Lonnie’s spot. After that is the starting 4 and 5.
Too bad Luka was given chance after chance after chance after chance after chance after chance…
John B
02-16-2022, 02:12 PM
Too bad Luka was given chance after chance after chance after chance after chance after chance…
I don’t know Luca personally and just go by what’s discussed in this forum. I think the issue is character. I too rooted for him because of his skills and potential. Lonnie, for what I’ve read about him, is a great character guy, on and off the court, with his teammates and the community. Of course he’s also a hard worker, but it’s the bball IQ that quite seem to click. The skills and desires to get better are there. I think Pop is giving him every chances because he’s a good player and good person in the team.
Ed Helicopter Jones
02-20-2022, 07:39 AM
He’s a great floor spacer on offense and brings that Marco level D.
I like Doug, though. Used properly he’s an asset.
KingKev
02-20-2022, 08:23 AM
He’s a great floor spacer on offense and brings that Marco level D.
I like Doug, though. Used properly he’s an asset.
40% on 5 3pt attempts a game. Bryn can do that on 8-10 attempts and offer similar defence for 1/3rd the cost.
Ed Helicopter Jones
02-20-2022, 01:27 PM
40% on 5 3pt attempts a game. Bryn can do that on 8-10 attempts and offer similar defence for 1/3rd the cost.
Bryn is even more of a liability on defense than Doug. And McDermott is tall, more mobile without the ball, and in general is a smarter ball player. I’m not going to cry if We lose McDermott this summer, but I can’t support any statement saying Bryn should be on this roster. We leveraged him for some picks…thank the Maker. Now let’s let him Rest In Peace. Amen.
Ocotillo
02-20-2022, 03:24 PM
Bryn is even more of a liability on defense than Doug. And McDermott is tall, more mobile without the ball, and in general is a smarter ball player. I’m not going to cry if We lose McDermott this summer, but I can’t support any statement saying Bryn should be on this roster. We leveraged him for some picks…thank the Maker. Now let’s let him Rest In Peace. Amen.
Fvckin' A
KingKev
02-21-2022, 07:57 AM
Bryn is even more of a liability on defense than Doug. And McDermott is tall, more mobile without the ball, and in general is a smarter ball player. I’m not going to cry if We lose McDermott this summer, but I can’t support any statement saying Bryn should be on this roster. We leveraged him for some picks…thank the Maker. Now let’s let him Rest In Peace. Amen.
I don’t care for either. If McDermott is your worst contract that’s nothing to hang your head at but I never liked that contract and continue to see it as an overpay.
He moves very well without the ball, actually puts the effort in on D (but still gets roasted routinely) and i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is still getting comfortable after time missed due to injuries and covid but I still see him as a slightly better, much more expensive Forbes.
rankingtear
02-27-2022, 06:55 AM
I don’t care for either. If McDermott is your worst contract that’s nothing to hang your head at but I never liked that contract and continue to see it as an overpay.
He moves very well without the ball, actually puts the effort in on D (but still gets roasted routinely) and i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that he is still getting comfortable after time missed due to injuries and covid but I still see him as a slightly better, much more expensive Forbes.
Pretty good contract actually if you think about it. He is getting that 41mil guaranteed regardless because that is the 4 yr MLE. And it may be more advantageous for us to make it a 3 year contract , it lines up with DJ free agency and is much more tradeable ( salary match and expiring at year 3 when Doug is 32 ). The extra 3 mil would not be the difference in us signing a big time free agent, a good second rounder is all that is needed to dump that money and we have plenty.
KingKev
02-27-2022, 08:41 AM
Pretty good contract actually if you think about it. He is getting that 41mil guaranteed regardless because that is the 4 yr MLE. And it may be more advantageous for us to make it a 3 year contract , it lines up with DJ free agency and is much more tradeable ( salary match and expiring at year 3 when Doug is 32 ). The extra 3 mil would not be the difference in us signing a big time free agent, a good second rounder is all that is needed to dump that money and we have plenty.
A moveable contract but you wouldn’t get anything in return and probably have to compensate the receiving team for taking him on.
He is certainly my least favourite Spur currently. He makes no difference out there.
rankingtear
02-27-2022, 08:59 AM
A moveable contract but you wouldn’t get anything in return and probably have to compensate the receiving team for taking him on.
He is certainly my least favourite Spur currently. He makes no difference out there.
Tall shooters are getting 18 mil a year every free agency and even Forbes gets traded for a second rounder yet you think he has negative value. That is the very definition of value not what is in your head.
Dverde
02-27-2022, 09:08 AM
I’ve been happy with McBuckets overall. He had a few games where he tried to do to much. I think his contract is a small overpay, but his ability to make good cuts and finish at the rim was been better than expected for me. I only wish he was a better rebounder for his position. I knew his defense was mostly trash, but he tries.
KingKev
02-27-2022, 10:00 AM
Tall shooters are getting 18 mil a year every free agency and even Forbes gets traded for a second rounder yet you think he has negative value. That is the very definition of value not what is in your head.
He has been 40% or so on moderate volume… 5 a game. Never said negative value just think he is an overpay. If he was shooting that on 8-10 shots than yeah thats a great contract.
His height is hardly relevant when he is a terrible defender. Brynn has similar numbers at a 3rd of the price in less minutes which is why his contract had some value.
Atl Spur
02-27-2022, 11:17 AM
Doug vs Forbes comparison is crazy! Doug is a way better player and has a higher bbiq…..not even close
Atl Spur
02-27-2022, 11:18 AM
Doug’s contract will not be hard to trade if necessary.
rankingtear
02-27-2022, 12:09 PM
He has been 40% or so on moderate volume… 5 a game. Never said negative value just think he is an overpay. If he was shooting that on 8-10 shots than yeah thats a great contract.
His height is hardly relevant when he is a terrible defender. Brynn has similar numbers at a 3rd of the price in less minutes which is why his contract had some value.
You know its relevant.
John B
02-27-2022, 12:27 PM
Doug is a streaky player. It’s a cliche, but in a better team, he would be very sought after, knocking down shots for tier 1 getting double team. If and when Spurs get that Tier 1 player, Doug would play that critical role. Can Keldon play that role with his deadly 3pts? Maybe. And that’s something PATFO could evaluate this off-season.
MultiTroll
02-27-2022, 02:37 PM
Doug vs Forbes comparison is crazy! Doug is a way better player and has a higher bbiq…..not even close
Doug’s contract will not be hard to trade if necessary.
Seems like a contradiction.
Why is he next to impossible to trade?
Bear in mind "better then Forbes" is an extremely low bar.
Atl Spur
02-27-2022, 03:29 PM
Seems like a contradiction.
Why is he next to impossible to trade?
Bear in mind "better then Forbes" is an extremely low bar.
Please read previous post and connect the dots….. not hard to figure out pimp!
MultiTroll
02-28-2022, 09:52 AM
Please read previous post and connect the dots….. not hard to figure out pimp!
Don't don't see any connecting dots. :lol
McDermott certainly having a good shooting February.
Still don't think his contract would be easy to move but would love to get a great return if / when.
Atl Spur
02-28-2022, 10:15 AM
Don't don't see any connecting dots. :lol
McDermott certainly having a good shooting February.
Still don't think his contract would be easy to move but would love to get a great return if / when.
Duncan Robinson vs Doug McDermott is a fair comp right? The heat didn’t batt an eye giving him 5/90 because shooting is at a premium ( remember the corpse of forbes fetched a second ). 14 per is ok according to market…
KingKev
02-28-2022, 10:26 AM
Duncan Robinson vs Doug McDermott is a fair comp right? The heat didn’t batt an eye giving him 5/90 because shooting is at a premium ( remember the corpse of forbes fetched a second ). 14 per is ok according to market…
Context matters. Duncan Robinson got that contract as a 25yr old shooting 44% on 8 attempts from beyond the arc with the Heat coming off a Finals appearance. At the time the Hwat would have been silly to let him walk for nothing.
McDermott is a very moveable contract but you aren’t getting much if anything for him in return and I’m confiident he has underperformed PATFOs expectations. He got a nice pay raise, guaranteed money, green light to shoot with a secure starting spot and has done little.
Where he does have value is to another team well over the cap who isn’t hard capped so they get to add a decent veteran 3pt shooter in return for an expiring and maybe we get some small compensation for the trade.
MultiTroll
02-28-2022, 10:30 AM
Duncan Robinson has had a serious drop off since he got paid after he had a very good performance in the 2020 Bubble Finals run.
It happens.
Yet the Heat are in 1st.
Could McForbesbot go to a contender and add?
I don't know i don't think so but again, if a contender thinks so and is willing to add to the Spurs rebuild then excellent.
KingKev
02-28-2022, 10:31 AM
Duncan Robinson vs Doug McDermott is a fair comp right? The heat didn’t batt an eye giving him 5/90 because shooting is at a premium ( remember the corpse of forbes fetched a second ). 14 per is ok according to market…
The Forbes example isn’t great. Forbes returned an SRP as he is an expiring contract on a small deal. Also, the use of “the corpse of Forbes” doesn’t help your argument as it implies he is a shell of his prior self when actually he was playing at a similiar level to other years.
rankingtear
02-28-2022, 11:13 AM
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KingKev
02-28-2022, 11:25 AM
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Floor spacing and efficient, mid level volume 3 pt shooting is what he offers. Everyone knows this.
Atl Spur
02-28-2022, 11:43 AM
Some people Bro, are you really carrying on about Dougie? His value is accurately been assessed. The modest contract coupled with let’s say Josh Richardsons’ could net a valuable asset…. Many options are available
Atl Spur
02-28-2022, 11:44 AM
I’m not going to go into the plethora of possibilities that might occur
rankingtear
02-28-2022, 12:03 PM
Context matters. Duncan Robinson got that contract as a 25yr old shooting 44% on 8 attempts from beyond the arc with the Heat coming off a Finals appearance. At the time the Hwat would have been silly to let him walk for nothing.
McDermott is a very moveable contract but you aren’t getting much if anything for him in return and I’m confiident he has underperformed PATFOs expectations. He got a nice pay raise, guaranteed money, green light to shoot with a secure starting spot and has done little.
Where he does have value is to another team well over the cap who isn’t hard capped so they get to add a decent veteran 3pt shooter in return for an expiring and maybe we get some small compensation for the trade.
Well they could have signed Forbes for 1/4 the value and 85 mil less guaranteed.
KingKev
02-28-2022, 12:29 PM
Well they could have signed Forbes for 1/4 the value and 85 mil less guaranteed.
I don’t know what you are arguing.
TDomination
03-01-2022, 12:56 PM
man until yesterday i didn't realize he had such a quick trigger
i liked seeing him demand the ball too. shows he was feeling it.
See the 4:37 mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs8-50kYujs
KingKev
03-01-2022, 01:15 PM
^ He does NOTHING else out there, he can barely box out. He is a spectator begging for the ball.
His value is floor spacing and a quick trigger finger. Perfect bench guy for a winning team.
John B
03-01-2022, 01:59 PM
I have to say Doug is a streaky shooter and could drift sometimes. It’s probably wise to reduce his minutes, and maximize his efficiency out there. Maybe start but give more minutes to Lonnie around 26 total minutes.
TDomination
03-01-2022, 02:19 PM
^ He does NOTHING else out there, he can barely box out. He is a spectator begging for the ball.
His value is floor spacing and a quick trigger figure. Perfect bench guy for a winning team.
that'd be great if that was with us.
we always had that streaky shooter that was a terrible defender/rebounder on our championship teams.
Marco Belinelli, Michael Finley, Brent Barry, Steve Kerr
but like you said, they worked cause there were great players around them.
So we already have the streaky shooter, now we just need the championship team to form around him lol
Atl Spur
03-01-2022, 03:17 PM
Doug is not the problem.
Ed Helicopter Jones
03-02-2022, 12:39 PM
Doug is not the problem.
Agreed. He'd be a great piece on a winning team. He's fine in his role, but probably asked to do too much right now.
John B
03-16-2022, 06:51 PM
projectspurs.com/doug-mcdermott…
AT&T CENTER – The San Antonio Spurs announced Wednesday forward Doug McDermott is expected to miss the remainder of the regular season with a grade three right ankle sprain.
After McDermott underwent an MRI examination, the results confirmed the injury. McDermott has now begun a rehabilitation program for the injury.
The Spurs have 13 regular season games remaining. They’re currently 3.5 games behind the Los Angeles Lakers for 9th out West and 2 games behind the New Orleans Pelicans for 10th.
Finishing 9th or 10th gives a team the opportunity to play in the play-in tournament to try to become a playoff team.
With McDermott out, the Spurs have been starting even smaller with Josh Richardson joining the starting group of Dejounte Murray, Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson, and Jakob Poeltl.
In 62 possessions, the new starting five are outscoring opponents by 3.2 points per 100 possessions per CleaningTheGlass.com.
If McDermott does miss the remainder of the season, he’ll finish his first season as a Spur being one of the most efficient shooters on the team. McDermott has played in 51 games, averaging 24 minutes, 11.3 points, 2.3 rebounds, and 1.3 assists per game. He’s shooting 46% from the floor, 42% from three, and 78% from the free throw line.
The Spurs signed McDermott last summer to a three year deal. He’s earning $13.7 million this season and will earn $13.7 million in each of the next two seasons.
SPURt
03-16-2022, 07:07 PM
Rev up the tank engine! Top 5 pick here we cum!!
KingKev
03-17-2022, 04:19 AM
Our second highest paid player.
Am I the only one on this board who has been underwhelmed with his first season as a Spur?
Fusternino
03-17-2022, 02:07 PM
Doug's play has been fine, the team's roster construction just makes no sense with him and KJ as the starting forwards.
Degoat
03-17-2022, 03:43 PM
I like Dougie, he just needs to be on a contender tbh I think Josh Richardson has looked more impactful in the SL too
KingKev
03-17-2022, 03:46 PM
I like Dougie, he just needs to be on a contender tbh I think Josh Richardson has looked more impactful in the SL too
I’m sure a contender, over the cap will happily take him and maybe we get a second and some dead money in return. That’s all he is worth right now.
spurraider21
03-17-2022, 05:51 PM
hes played about as well as i could have expected, but i still dont think the volume justifies his pay/role. ive said all year that he needs to be among the league leaders in 3PA to be worth it. didnt like the signing but they also havent exactly made lemonade with it
KingKev
03-18-2022, 04:29 AM
hes played about as well as i could have expected, but i still dont think the volume justifies his pay/role. ive said all year that he needs to be among the league leaders in 3PA to be worth it. didnt like the signing but they also havent exactly made lemonade with it
42% from deep on 5 attempts per game in a starting role is his only value add. Sure he moves well without the ball but he is a BAD defender, who can barely box out. He offers nothing else other than efficient 3 pt shooting on low volume. Get that to 9-10 attempts a game and he starts to make sense as a starter and the second highest paid player on the team.
He also has been out every 3rd game. This team has far worse problems but Doug McDermott at 3yrs 42mm is easily
our worst contract.
John B
03-18-2022, 07:12 AM
I like Doug, but he’s a terrible fit with Keldon in the SL. While Keldon himself, can play that spacer role with his new found shooting if they decided to go that way. It’s a cliche, but McBuckets could be great with a contender with his knockdown shooting, one of the highest in the league. So I doubt that they would have a problem moving him if they decided to. I honestly think we’ve seen the last of him. I think the Spurs should get size PF and move Keldon to SF. Keldon is a willing defender and would work hard to get better.
rankingtear
03-18-2022, 11:11 AM
He did what he was signed to do, the early season SL was middle of the pack on offense even with KJ shooting 25% at the start of the year and DW shooting 30%. But now numbers show Richardson is a better fit with the SL since we don't have DW covering his bad defense. Doug might be a bench player next season with another wing starting ( Josh or Josh or the first rounder ).
John B
03-18-2022, 12:07 PM
^hard to pay 14mil per year for a bench player. If McD is not a good fit, trade or package him, get assets back and move on. Spurs have 4 picks coming if they use all that need spot.
John B
03-18-2022, 12:13 PM
^hard to pay 14mil per year for a bench player. If McD is not a good fit, trade or package him, get assets back and move on. Spurs have 4 picks coming if they use all, that need roster spots.
KingKev
03-18-2022, 01:01 PM
^hard to pay 14mil per year for a bench player. If McD is not a good fit, trade or package him, get assets back and move on. Spurs have 4 picks coming if they use all, that need roster spots.
McD is getting you assets back. If he has a nice start to next season MAYBE you get an asset and an expiring. Otherwise he probably costs a 2nd or two to dump or is salary filler in a larger trade this summer.
The Truth #6
03-18-2022, 01:27 PM
We’re probably stuck with him, but at least the lesson should be to not bring in anymore worst in the league defenders. Shit, we can get that from Lonnie at a reduced rate!
Sugus
03-18-2022, 03:11 PM
We’re probably stuck with him, but at least the lesson should be to not bring in anymore worst in the league defenders. Shit, we can get that from Lonnie at a reduced rate!
:lol
Truth be told though, the Spurs aren't "stuck" with McD. He's a positive asset to most contenders (not this season with the injury ofc, but next season? Surely, especially with one year off his contract already). I think it's much more likely that the Spurs, for some reason (probably Pop's fixation on the idea that spacing must be given by terrible defenders), don't want to move on from him, than it is that they have to shed assets to trade him out. I can see many teams, like MWK, calling Wright's number next off-season or trade deadline.
RC_Drunkford
03-28-2022, 07:31 PM
I‘m pretty sure they will try to trade him next season
exstatic
03-28-2022, 09:01 PM
He needs more gravity than anyone on this team can provide. It’s too easy to chase him off his shots on this team.
spurraider21
03-28-2022, 09:16 PM
I‘m pretty sure they will try to trade him next season
dont know what kind of value he'd have with 2 years left on his deal. if he was expiring, sure. i think we're stuck with him for at least a year
Seventyniner
03-28-2022, 11:12 PM
dont know what kind of value he'd have with 2 years left on his deal. if he was expiring, sure. i think we're stuck with him for at least a year
A contender would prefer him having 2 years left instead of 1 imo. They would only have a late first to trade if that, but the Spurs have a very good track record with late firsts.
GAustex
03-28-2022, 11:21 PM
Dougie McNoD needs a high gravity player and a stout team defense for his squad.
SA ain’t that
MultiTroll
11-08-2022, 11:49 AM
Why exactly is McDermott playing?
*Showcasing* him for a trade?
Or just Drunk Grandpa playing his pets per par?
lefty
11-08-2022, 11:52 AM
Why exactly is McDermott playing?
*Showcasing* him for a trade?
Or just Drunk Grandpa playing his pets per par?
tbh, yesterday Sochan was hesitant to shoot 3s, so I guess Pop played him for spacing
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